The Dan Bongino Show - Ep. 858 The Scandal You're Not Hearing About
Episode Date: November 26, 2018Summary:In this episode I address the Hillary Clinton team's role in the scandal surrounding the Trump Tower meeting. I also address the broken immigration system and the complete lack of policy solut...ions on the Democrat side. News Picks: Pick up some Dan Bongino Show merchandise here for 15% off. All of our proceeds go to charity. No, the Trump tax cuts did not all go to “the rich.” Twitter is out of control. They banned an Iraq War veteran. The chaos at the border continues. “Free” college is getting really expensive. Here are the numbers. If the globe is warming, then why have temperatures been cooling? The GOP is making serious inroads with the Hispanic community in Florida. This piece by Chuck Ross details the Trump Tower scandal. Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host
dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today it's monday
that's my fun day good to be here dan oh i know that's not true because i know how you are on
monday and it is your misery day yes you know I like to get back with the audience on the weekend.
I know Joe does, too.
We do miss you, though.
A lot happened over the weekend.
Just one quick note before we dig in.
I gave a speech in Palm Beach recently at this Restoration Weekend, and the speech has gone viral.
If you look it up, Dan Bongino on YouTube, Restoration Weekend.
It is a speech about the entire scandal to take down Trump.
It's about a half an hour long, but the thing has gone nuclear and is now everywhere.
So if you want to listen to it, go check that out.
It is about the plan to take down Trump.
And I walk everybody through plan A, plan B, and plan C.
You know, the unmasking, the spying scandal, and then the Mueller cover-up.
And people seem to love it.
So the good news, folks, is, you know, the word's getting out there about what happened here,
and people seem to be really gravitating towards it.
So thanks for spreading that around.
If you want to check it out again, just put in YouTube, Dan Bongino Restoration Weekend,
and it's right there for you to see.
All right, I got a lot to get to today, including the caravan,
some more disgusting stuff happening on Twitter,
and where the Democrats are going next with the Mueller probe.
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First on this caravan, before I get to some other stuff here, this is just, folks, we're a sovereign country, okay?
As I've said repeatedly on Fox this weekend and this morning on Fox and Friends, the border
is not a suggestion.
We are a sovereign country.
If you are on the other side of this argument, I feel embarrassed for you.
I don't understand what your objection to
what's going on is. First, we were told, Joe, we were told two things, that this caravan is not
real. Remember the liberal media? Oh, yeah. It's not real. There's no such thing. It is real.
There is a caravan of thousands of people attempting to enter the United States illegally.
So disregard the lying. I saw her on Twitter. I was at Michelle Malkin, had a great tweet.
You know, shake and bake, Joe, which I love. Shake and bake is my favorite. Well, disregard the lying uh it was i saw her on twitter i said michelle malkin had a great tweet you know
shake and bake joe which i love shake and bake is my favorite well she calls the media fake and bake
it's fake and bake it's fake and bake media the media are hacks understand this the liberal media
are nothing more than liberal activists they lied to your face the caravan's not real how is it not
real what are these doctored videos? What are you suggesting? This is
a Dustin Hoffman wag the dog movie that these people are all actors. Is that what you're
suggesting? The caravan is very real. You may object to how it's handled politically. You may
object to the caravan being formed at all. You may object to all kinds of ramifications of the
caravan, but suggesting that it's not real makes you look
like a complete imbecile. Do you understand that? To the liberals who listen to my show,
thank you for being here, but I'm sorry if you continue to propagate the myth that the caravan
of migrants coming into the country or attempting to illegally is not real. Do you know how dumb
you look to normal, rational people across America who are watching this on television?
Do you understand that?
So we were told, one, it wasn't real.
And secondly, Joe, we were told, oh, this isn't an invasion.
Everybody needs to calm down.
Right.
Folks, granted, is it an invasion on the scale of Utah Beach and Normandy Beach?
No, let's not be ridiculous.
Is it an invasion, though?
It's a very definition of
an invasion damn right i have a video up this up at the show notes from the washington examiner
looking at yourself if you missed it this weekend hundreds of people trying to storm the border
unless you're suggesting this is made up of some hollywood production a netflix movie or some
amazon prime is on prime, you look silly.
People tried to invade our country illegally through the border.
We can argue about the scale of it.
Fine.
I'm not into hyperbole or drama for effect.
But arguing that it was not an invasion and the caravan wasn't real, you look like fools.
Now the left's new beef, Joee because the left make no mistake it appears they are trying to provoke a a confrontation here seems that way my man right now this morning
yeah i i uh i did an appearance on fox and friends i do monday morning at 6 30 as many of you know
i appreciate a lot of you watching it i uh i uh sometimes i'll be out in public and people
say hey i watch you monday
i appreciate that i'm on usually around 6 30 hours so thanks for watching but i did an appearance
this morning on fox and friends and i made the obvious point joe joe can we just put this aside
and stipulate this point sure that normal reasonable rational people nobody wants to see
uh pepper spray lacrimators any kind of tear gas but can we
just put that is that just can we stipulate that point sure sure nobody wants to see that no one
nobody nobody i do not want to see another human being at pepper sprayed or or any kind of uh
chemical agents are used against anyone at all period but folks let me ask you this what is your suggestion if hundreds of people and
potentially thousands of people storm our southern border in complete utter violation of u.s law and
sovereignty what's your solution no liberals you brainiacs out there you supposed self-reflective
geniuses who look at yourselves
in the mirror or in the water reflection like narcissists, and you sit there and you
coif your hair because you're so smart and we're all so stupid. What's your solution?
I'm serious. Nobody wants to see that, but what's your solution? I'm serious. You have hundreds, potentially thousands of people saying we are not going to listen to your border, to your border agents.
We ignore your border.
We ignore your national sovereignty.
We are going to come in when we want on our timetable.
And according to our rules, what the hell is your solution?
Oh, we're going to
play staring games with them?
As I said this morning, what, we're going to use
foul language? You better
really stop now.
No one
wants to see a confrontation.
But Joe, this
is not a question of good versus bad.
Good is they wouldn't storm the
border at all and they'd come into country legally yes sir like my wife did right that's but that's not what's happening
the decisions now because of people choosing to violate our laws not because of us the united
states and our brave border patrol agents and people protecting our border are not storming
into mexico using pepper spray on people people are storming into Mexico using pepper spray on people. People
are storming into the United States against our laws, attacking them with rocks.
What's your solution, man? What is it? Say something, anything. What is your solution?
Let's just stare at them. They have a way to get into the United States.
It's called a legal port of entry and an asylum.
They chose not to do that.
They chose to storm the border in mass.
What is yours?
I can't say this enough to your liberal friends, these people out there who are so much smarter
than you.
These academic and social elites who these hoity toities with their noses up in the air, these thirst and howl, lovey-to-lovey, they look at you like you are the great unwashed.
What the hell is your solution to this?
How are you going to fix that?
if we let hundreds and then thousands and then potentially tens of thousands of people in a caravan you swore didn't exist that wasn't invading the border that is a caravan and did
invade the border at san ysidro this weekend what is your solution when a thousand and then ten
thousand stormed border what is it don't you back off you're just a nationalist i'm just a net right
we're not racist we're xenophobic all of me while i'm married to
an immigrant yeah how did i get past that my profound xenophobia it's so stupid i'm so tired
of this argument now showing you that they have absolutely no solution joe was kind enough to
pull a cut this morning from a leading democrat from joe's great state of maryland elijah coming
who had,
this is a takeaway here.
I don't like rants for the sake of rants.
The takeaway
to this whole thing is
what is your solution
when people invade
our border by choice,
illegally,
in violation of U.S. law,
and attack our border patrol?
I want to know
from Elijah Cummings
and the Democrats,
I don't want any of your
focus group tested crap. I don't want any talking points. Enough. Put your garbage away. I want to know from Elijah Cummings and the Democrats, I don't want any of your focus group tested crap.
I don't want any talking points. Enough. Put your garbage away. I want to know exactly right now
what you would do when Iraq comes hurling at you and people storm our border illegally.
What do you do? And if your answer is nothing, then just be honest and listen to this cut,
how Elijah Cummings doesn't even have an answer for what we're supposed to do with the border if the president cut to deal with mexico are you
supportive of that no no i think because that's not the law they stay they should be allowed to
come in uh seek asylum that's the law and and we don't would you support changing the law no no i
i think that we have a system that has worked for a long time this president has come in wants to
change it that's
that's up to him but now the congress has got to stand up and hopefully they will what what the
hell was that what so joe at one point i'm gonna you joe pulled i didn't find that cut joe didn't
it was good because i wanted to talk about this but this is the takeaway the democrats have nothing
trump has you may not like trump. Fine. I love our constitutional republic
where you are as a free citizen
entitled to politically go after
whoever the hell you want
as long as you don't attack them
or violate their civil liberties.
Fine.
Do your thing.
But you cannot argue with the fact
that at least he's tried to do something.
Some ideas were good.
Some, like I think the DACA,
were not so good,
but at least they were ideas.
Send National Guard to the border.
Let's see if it works.
If it doesn't, he's bringing some of them back.
Let's build a wall.
The Democrats don't want that.
National Guard, they don't want that.
Increase the border patrol.
Oh, we don't want that either.
Let's get rid of chain migration to break the incentive.
The Democrats don't want that.
Let's get rid of the visa lottery.
They don't want that.
They don't want anything. Nothing. So asked in that interview, he's asked about two things. What about Trump's proposal to let these migrants stay in Mexico instead of the United States while the asylum claims are proceeding? Because why, folks, why would that matter?
Because why, folks?
Why would that matter?
It would matter because when given an asylum hearing in the United States, but, but, but,
you're allowed to enter the country.
A lot of these people, these migrants coming in illegally, folks, and legally for asylum claims are never showing up for their hearing.
Once they enter the United States, Joe, they're where?
In the wind.
They're gone.
You never see them again. So Trump's team came up with an idea. Once they enter the United States, Joe, they're where? In the wind. They're gone.
You never see them again.
So Trump's team came up with an idea.
You're free to not like it, but they have nothing.
That's the idea Chuck Todd, that was Chuck Todd, right?
Asked Elijah Cummings about.
He says, hey, what do you think about Trump's proposal?
Which is perfectly reasonable.
Fine, you want to make an asylum claim?
That is the law right now. We can change it if we don't like it, but that is the law. You will make it from Mexico. And if you're denied, you'll have to go back home or Mexico can decide what to do with you.
You can make an asylum claim in Mexico then. He asked him about it. What is the lies you're
coming to? No, no, no. I don't like that either. What do you, do you like anything?
They don't like it. Listen to me. This is what you voted for. These people are
scammers. I left you on Friday telling you that on Monday I was going to cover how the Democrat
party are nothing but liars and agitators. I'm embarrassed for them. I wake up every morning
proud to be a conservative because at least I have principles. Principles you may not like,
but they mean something. The Democrats' principles are anything it takes to get power, which is the very definition of non-principles, because principles are not anything it takes.
Principles mean I believe in economic liberty. I believe in healthcare liberty, education liberty,
the defense of life. Those are my principles, even if we lose power. That's what I believe in.
We go down, and those are hills we die on the democrats don't die on any hills
because they just jump to another hill if the democrats thought tomorrow that being a a pro
border border security and pro-legal immigration would get them elected they would switch on a dot
no no they wouldn't dan some of you they've already done it. Oh, yeah. Right, Joe? How many clips do we have in our library of Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton
talking about, you cannot enter the country illegally and be expected to work here.
Bill Clinton saying, you know what?
You got to enter the country legally.
We are not going to allow illegals in the country.
Why did they say that?
Because the Democrats are frauds.
They are the biggest phony, fake, liar, agitator frauds out there.
They're a magic deck, a clown show.
They're not even a good clown show.
They're like the creepy clown show.
You're at a really horrible birthday party for four-year-olds.
The clown shows up drunk and everybody in the room is uncomfortable, even the four-year-olds.
That's the Democrats.
It's a clown show.
It's a freak show. It's a freak show.
They are liars, liars. They are liars and agitators.
They have changed their position on immigration because they are catering to a left wing left wing base exclusively to get back in power.
So he's asked about keeping them in Mexico, the migrants, until they can get an
immigration asylum claim. No, he says, I don't agree with that. Then he's asked about a law
change. Do you support a change in the law? What does Elijah Cummings say? No, I don't support
that either. Folks, this chaos is their brand because they think chaos sells. If this was a
Democrat president, they would be fighting for some border control measures because they think chaos sells. If this was a Democrat president, they would be fighting for some border control measures
because they know chaos doesn't sell.
They want chaos now because they want Donald Trump
to look like his administration is just a cornucopia
of chaos and poor policy implementation.
The Democrats are actually fighting for chaos
at the border right now.
It is a disgrace what's going on.
Folks, I don't know how you could be a Democrat anymore. I'm telling you,
they're nothing. But I got two stories too, and I will get to them this week. Sometimes I tease
stories. I don't get to them right away, but this is important. So much happened over the weekend.
I got two more stories. One about the minimum wage where they totally
lied to people and they made up a number. And another one about the female male pay gap disparity
where there was just a study put out and they lied about that too. I hope I'm hoping to get to that
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Okay.
Folks, the left is starting to figure out now that the Mueller probe is wrapping up.
Hence, their new doubling down on, we have to protect Mueller.
Listen, one, that would be entirely unconstitutional.
The left, in conjunction with complete zeros up on the hill like Jeff Flake,
who is really more damaging
to the Republican cause than a lot of Democrats
are, who thankfully is leaving,
are proposing a bill
to protect Bob Mueller
and the special counsel from being
fired by the president. He's going to have, the bill
would institute some kind of review process.
Yeah, I know Joe's looking like,
neither Joe nor I are constitutional lawyers,
but we're both pretty bright guys
who've been involved in this movement a long time.
And thankfully, you don't have to be a lawyer
to read the Constitution.
How you are going to pass a bill
that takes away the executive powers of the president
is puzzling.
You would basically be throwing out the Constitution
using his toilet paper.
Bob Mueller is an inferior officer to the
president. The president doesn't work for Bob Mueller. Now, however uncomfortable this makes
you liberals, this is a constitutional fact. And unless you want to amend the constitution,
Mueller can be fired at any time. Now, I thought Mueller should have been fired a long time ago,
but I'm here to tell you, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think the president
intends on firing Mueller. And the reason he doesn't intend on firing Mueller, I wish he had a while ago, is because
there's no collusion and Mueller doesn't have anything.
Now, of course, you got rhino Republicans like Jeff Flake and some others, sadly, who
are backing this bill to have Mueller protected, which would be entirely unconstitutional and
would be thrown out.
But why are they doubling down on this now?
There are two things going on you must pay attention to.
Number one, the Mueller probe, I have absolutely no doubt that there are people up on the Hill
on the Democrat and swamp rat Republican side who are well aware, Joe, number one,
of what's in the Mueller report they're compiling.
Oh, yeah.
They are probably aware that this report, although, as Alan Dershowitz said, is not going to paint politically a great picture because it's being written by partisans.
There will be absolutely zero evidence of any kind of criminal Russian collusion at all.
And it will blow this whole thing up as a hoax. Now, Dershowitz said the report will be politically damaging to the president.
And I respond back to Dershowitz by saying, saying of course it will it's being written by partisans it's being written by lawyers in the muller probe uh you know genie re
aaron zebley andy weissman and bob muller who hate the president and any report being written
from a one-sided perspective is going to be written to be politically damaging for the president but
the democrats are worried joe because they've told the public for two years now that this
muller probe is going to uncover actual evidence of a criminal conspiracy to conspire with the
russians that's not there listen to me take this to the bank that is not going to happen there is
going to be no evidence of russian collusion in that report and the democrats are worried a little
bit hence this bill this is this bill is, they know it's unconstitutional.
You see where I'm going with this show?
They're not introducing this bill
because they think it's actually going to protect Mueller,
be thrown out by the Supreme Court instantaneously.
Right.
They're introducing this bill right now,
I believe, to bait people in the administration.
That's the only, to keep the attention on Trump with Mueller.
That's it.
That's the only purpose to it.
That's why I said we should have fired him a long time ago. Now that he's entrenched, it's forget it. That's the only purpose to it. That's why I said we should have
fired him a long time ago. Now that he's entrenched, it's forget it. It's an impossibility right now.
But secondly, given that they know they have no evidence, they're worried about, again,
their involvement in this entire scheme and there are things they're trying to cover up.
And whenever you want to find out what the democrats did wrong just look at what they're
trying to keep the attention on themselves i'm getting some traffic here from people
that the trump tower meeting is going to be the focus of the smaller thing
now just to be clear so you have the facts i don't want to spend a ton of time on this
but folks the trump tower meeting is hardcore evidence of, at a minimum, collusion, maybe not conspiracy, but a collusion effort between Hillary Clinton's team and Russian connected individuals.
You should be focusing on the Trump Tower meeting.
Now, the Democrats know this.
on the Trump Tower meeting.
Now, the Democrats know this,
so that's why they're focusing on the Trump Tower meeting
between Don Jr. and Akhmetchin
and Veselnitskaya,
these two Russians,
because they want to keep
the attention off their role
in this disaster.
Listen, I cannot be clearer on this.
This is going to be
the focus of the report.
Don Jr. met with Russians.
Collusion, collusion.
They will not mention
in this report,
or it'll be mentioned tangentially,
as it's not the focus of what it should be, that the two Russians who meet with Don Jr.
at Trump Tower, at that meeting, are connected to people in the Clinton orbit. Folks, this is ours. This Trump Tower meeting should be the focus of an investigation
by nonpartisan actors for the role in their conflicts with the Clinton team.
I don't want to walk through this a thousand times on the show, but I can't emphasize this
to you enough because liberals talk about this Trump Tower meeting and conveniently leave out
the facts. Fact number one, the woman that shows up,
Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer,
it is without question,
she shows up to meet with Don Jr.
in what I believe to be a setup,
while she's simultaneously working with Fusion GPS
on another case.
In other words, the Russian that shows up
is working with the company hired by
mrs clinton to set up donald trump listen please tell me you get this you don't get this none of
this makes sense that's why i think the speech went viral and everybody's listening to it
people are missing the setup the the woman that shows up the russian lawyer that the democrats are telling you is evidence of
collusion with the trump team is connected to the clinton orbit she is literally working
with a company paid by mrs clinton to gin up negative information on trump do you do you get
this may be so obvious it may actually be moving over people's heads. They paid a company to get bad information on Trump.
The same company sends a lawyer that working with them to Trump Tower to meet with Don
Jr.
This is obviously a setup.
The people that showed up are connected to the Clintons.
Secondly, this gets worse, by the way.
The other guy who shows up, the Russian, former Russian intelligence guy, this guy Rinat Akhmetchen.
Folks, Chuck Ross has a devastating piece in the Daily Caller from, let me look at the date on this so you can, you know what, I'll put it in the show notes.
Let me just take a note, even though it's older.
It's from May 18th of 2018.
Let me just read something to you.
So let's be clear.
Two Russians show up with a translator
who's also has connections to the State Department when Hillary was here, but let's forget the
translator for a moment. The first Russians working with the company hired by Hillary
to dig up information on Trump. Hello, McFly. What are we missing here? That's not in dispute.
The second guy, here's from Chuck Ross, the Renout akmechin the russian-american lobbyist
who attended the infamous trump tower meeting had contacts with member with members of hillary
clinton's inner circle and knew clinton herself he told the senate judiciary committee in 2017
here's a quote i knew clinton i knew some people who worked on a campaign the lobbyist renout
akmechin told the senate judiciary committee in closed-door testimony on November 14th.
What am I missing here?
When your Looney Tunes,
kookadoodle, liberal friends
come out and say,
yeah, but they met in Trump Tower.
Yes, with people who were working
with the Clintons and knew the Clintons.
This is all on the record.
None of this is mysterious.
None of these connections are cryptic, are hidden. It is a basic internet search. That's a quote. Chuck Ross didn't make
it up. I knew Clinton. I knew some people who worked on her campaign. And you don't find this
remotely suspicious. So let me be clear. Your premise is Don Jr. colluded with dangerous Russians who were connected to the Clintons and, quote, knew Clinton.
I knew people who worked on her campaign.
What is it?
How is this a case for collusion without being a case for collusion against the Clintons?
At a minimum, their orbit.
How?
Please tell me how that is.
Don't forget this quote.
Commit this to memory.
A Russian intel-connected guy
shows up at the Trump Tower meeting
and testifies in front of the Senate Committee,
under oath, the Senate Judiciary Committee,
and says, I knew Clinton.
I knew some people who
worked on her campaign so if this guy's the big russian colluder meeting with don jr why isn't
clinton being brought in and people with our campaign to describe what their relationship
was with the russian colluder why joe because they don't want the answer. You know it and I know it.
This was a setup.
You're being played for a sucker, man.
A fool.
I sat on a panel at Politicon
with some imbecile moderator
who had no idea of even basic facts.
He was.
I'm sorry, folks.
The guy was a moron.
He wasn't even a moderator.
He had no idea the basic facts of the case.
And I'm there with David Frum.
And David Frum is bringing up this Don Trump Jr. meeting at Trump Tower.
This is evidence of collusion.
I simply state the facts that the two people who showed up are connected to the Clinton space.
And everybody on the panel looks at me like I'm crazy.
Like I'm making this stuff up.
Because they are so blinded
by hatred for Trump. They don't want to admit the obvious. The people who showed up are connected
to Clinton's team. It was a setup. Now, what was this about? Folks, the briefing that the Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, a few people show up of Goldstone,
Veselnitskaya, Akhmetchin, and a translator who has connections to Hillary State Department.
But I'm just focusing right now on the lawyer, Veselnitskaya, and the former intel connected
guy, Akhmetchin. The Russian lawyer that shows up, who's working with the team paid by Hillary
to gin up information on Trump, shows up with a briefing about magnitsky the magnitsky act i'll get to that in a second
who prepares the briefing joe fusion gps the company working for hillary clinton
this explains a lot by the way one more thing i'm not mentioning because i want this
about lieber this thing on uh on on bezel, this guy's going to take a minute.
But the Russian intel guy, Joe, his lawyer's a guy by the name of Edward Lieberman.
His wife, Evelyn Lieberman, who's since deceased,
Evelyn Lieberman was a Clinton's high-ranking Clinton staffer.
So the guy who says, I know the Clintons, I knew people on our campaign.
Also, his lawyer, who he admits to briefing, his lawyer's wife was a high-ranking Bill Clinton staffer.
The connections are to the Clinton team.
Back to Veselnitskaya for a second, because this is important.
She shows up with a briefing.
This is all about Magnitsky.
You have to understand this.
There was a Democrat,
I don't want to say,
there was kind of bipartisan,
but it was led by Ben Cardin,
who Joe knows well,
because he's a liberal senator from Maryland,
who,
that's how I met Joe.
How do I know Ben Cardin?
I ran against him as a Republican nominee
for the United States Senate,
and lost.
That's how I met Joe.
I was going to his radio station to do an interview,
and I'm like, hey, you're the guy on the radio I hear.
That was, gosh, what, seven years ago?
Who the hell knows?
Yeah, seven years ago.
Something like that, yeah.
That's how I met Joe.
Ben Cardin, who's a Democrat, and it was bipartisan,
but they sponsored a bill, which I think was a good bill, by the way,
the Magnitsky Act, which sanctioned Russian
oligarchs and Russian officials involved in the death of Sergei Magnitsky, they put sanctions
on them and certain travel measures and financial measures.
So basically, Joe, if you were an international business person from Russia or anywhere else,
and you're involved in torture, death, destruction uh the united states can say you can't
come in here we're going to bar you from certain financial transactions involving the united states
five no problem with that bill i think it's a good idea now joe who didn't think let me just
joe this is not a trick question if you're a russian oligarch who is alleged to or may have
been legally involved uh and there may be some legal complications for you involved in the
torture death or killing of someone and you are barred from doing business in the
United States.
He is.
Do you think that would be a good or a bad thing for you, the Russian author?
I think this is a bad idea.
Bad, bad idea.
This is a bad idea.
Yes, good man.
You are correct.
You don't want...
Now, Joe, why would you...
Simple, not a trick.
Why would you, as a businessman, want to do business with the United States?
Not a trick.
Because I want to make money.
Lots and lots of money.
Thank you.
Yes.
I saw Creed 2 this week.
You sound like Victor Drago.
It was a good movie, by the way.
Recommend.
Say yes, because you want to make money.
The Russians hated Magnitsky.
They still do who is working and being paid by people
with russian influence to get rid of the magnitsky act glenn simpson at fusion gps follow it follow
the yellow brick road follow the yellow brick road russians with big time influence in international geopolitics want
magnitsky gone the magnitsky act because they can't do business in the most profitable business
center in the known universe the united states so they pay glenn simpson and fusion gps money Fusion GPS money to tar people and smear people who are advocating for the continued expansion of Magnitsky.
Now, does this start to make sense?
So this Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, who I have no doubt is connected to people in the upper echelons of the Russian government.
Veselnitskaya has an active interest in making Magnitsky go away too.
Why?
Because she's probably working in conjunction with,
or at least is being advised in some way, shape, or form
by people in the Russian government who want this thing to go away
so their oligarchs can travel and do business freely.
Does it make sense now, the Trump Tower meeting?
Fusion GPS, it probably doesn't.
Some of you are like, I don't get it.
Ladies and gentlemen, Fusion GPS is playing two dogs at the same time.
Fusion GPS's income stream is dependent on making Magnitsky go away,
but they also want to stay in the good
graces of the Clinton team that's paying them to gin up dirt on Donald Trump. Joe, what better way
to kill two birds with one stone? Throw one stone, get two birds. It's no better way. What? No better
way, right? First, we get to show up and in case Donald Trump is the president, we get to lobby for
Magnitsky to get rid of Magnitsky, which is exactly what the lawyer does using a briefing prepared by who?
Fusion GPS.
So if Donald Trump becomes president, great.
But but if Donald Trump doesn't become president, we sell all this stuff back to the Clintons as evidence of a Russian collusion scandal because they met with Russians.
Oh, oh, what?
This is great. this is great this is great glenn simpson's
heads i win tails you lose i show up if donald trump becomes president i talked to his kid and
his campaign manager about making magnitsky go away which they didn't by the way the trump team
matter of fact they expanded it made it worse for the the Russians, something the left-wing media won't tell you.
Or if Hillary wins, we say, hey, Hills, you know,
we did meet with Don Trump Jr.
And, you know, Russian collusion, that sounds like a really,
here we can get your intelligence community,
who's been looking into this in the FBI, we can use this as evidence.
Do you understand now why the liberals are focusing on this Trump Tower meeting?
Because they don't want the real purpose of the Trump Tower meeting, which is the entire core of the setup, to come out.
That the Clinton team was involved in this.
Because the Clinton team got played too.
The Clinton team got played by Simpson.
You may say, how? I don't get it.
You may say Simpson probably gave them everything they wanted.
Don Trump Jr. meeting with a Russian, right, Joe?
That's what they wanted.
To prove what?
Russian collusion that didn't exist.
Folks, I'm not sure the Clinton team was told about track number two.
That they went in there looking to pitch Magnitsky too.
I will bet my last dollar
that the Clinton team
was under the assumption here
or people associated
with the Clinton orbit
who, again,
we know Akhmetchin knows.
Joe, I think they were
under the impression
that this was exclusively
a setup.
In other words,
hey, go in there
and talk about emails
or something like that.
Remember, that's what shows up in the Goldstone email.
These people have dirt on Hillary.
I think the Clinton team is under, please follow me, folks.
I know this is a little confusing, but this is critical you get this because it's going
to explain how they focus on this and why.
The Clinton team is under the misperception that this is all a setup, that the Russians are going in there.
The Akhmetshin and Veselnitskaya people, the Clintons orbit is connected with to exclusively to set up Trump and Don Trump Jr. for Russian collusion.
But that's not what the people involved in the setup are there exclusively to do.
They're playing Clinton, too.
They're being.
Listen to do. They're playing Clinton too. They're being, listen to me,
they're being paid by influential people and heavily connected Russians to get rid of Magnitsky
too. The Clinton team isn't aware of this or is aware of this and thinks, okay, that's going to
take second place. The setup comes first. In other words, they have to go in that meeting and they have to get don trump jr on the record
asking the russians for emails or negative information on hillary but joe that's not what
happens what happens is because glenn simpson's also being paid to get rid of magnitsky the
vessel in the sky a lawyer there starts talking first about what her bigger priority, which is getting rid of Magnitsky,
but Don Trump jr.
Smart.
And so are the people in the meeting.
They realize quickly,
this is a,
this is not a good idea.
This is a waste of their time.
And they say,
we're out of here.
Right?
Joe,
she never gets to the email thing.
She never gets to the email thing. She never gets to the email thing.
Now, the Democrats,
let me say this,
the Trump team would have
a serious problem
if in that meeting
a plot was laid out
to steal Hillary's emails,
break the law.
They would.
But folks,
nobody disputes
that that never happened.
That did not happen.
Fusion screwed up.
I think they thought when they got the meeting that this thing would go on forever.
So they probably said, Joe, you know, bring up Magnitsky first.
You know, Trump could be elected president.
Let's make sure we at least have an open conversation about getting rid of Magnitsky.
And don't worry, towards the end of the meeting, we'll also cater to the Hillary people.
Bring up this email thing
and give them the collusion narrative
they need just in case Hillary loses.
But they never get to it.
They never get to it
because Trump says,
I'm out.
Bye, Felicia.
See you later.
Not interested.
Have a nice day.
And then they're probably
looking at each other like,
wait, what?
What do we do now?
We didn't, we don't have a, well, we can go back and tell the Clinton people we do we do now we didn't we don't have a
well we can go back and tell the clinton people we met with them yeah but we don't have anything
it doesn't matter don't worry they'll appoint a special counsel later and they'll just keep
saying that the meeting's evidence of collusion but no collusion happened it doesn't matter
do you see how they need to cover these connections up? Some of you may still be a little perplexed on this.
They are focusing on this Trump Tower meeting because they know the media is in their pockets because they're a bunch of hacks and they will never tell the truth.
They know the liberals in Congress and the liberals in the Congress and the Senate and the activist groups can keep the attention using Mueller.
If they didn't have Mueller as a special counsel, this Trump Tower meeting and all the shenanigans behind it would have probably gone
away. They know they can count on Mueller's team to never tell you about the devious connections
of the Clinton side. That's why they want to highlight this Trump Tower meeting, because folks,
it does look bad. It does. Let's be candid. It looks bad. It's not criminal. Nothing happened
there. Don Trump Jr., to his credit, released all the emails about it. I think everybody acknowledges
the meeting was a bad idea. But they know they can count on the politically biased team of Bob
Mueller to ignore everything I just told you and highlight the fact that Donald Trump met with
Russians, met with Russians, met with Russians, and he will tell you over and over enough and
dopey people will believe it's evidence of collusion that never happened.
That's why.
That's why they use it.
I'll wrap it up on this.
Maybe I should have put the lead out first.
They will highlight the meeting because they know Bob Mueller will protect you from the truth.
Protect.
I'm using air quotes.
So why not use it?
If Joe met with Russians and nothing happened happened and i know i can count on
the media to not disclose that nothing happened and that the story will be joe met with russians
that i'm just going to continue to run with it why because it's politically damaging to joe
you will never hear the truth they can count on bob muller to keep all of that stuff hidden he
will never investigate that stuff so they know know that Trump Jr. meeting with Russians,
despite the fact they're connected to Hillary,
is only damaging to who?
Trump Jr.
They know that.
They're not dumb.
So they keep pushing this out there.
This is the biggest scam in human history.
You are a sucker if you believe in this nonsense.
Thank you.
I rely on you here because it's just,
I understand this is a complicated case
and I'm bringing this up not to rehash
a Chuck Ross article from back
in May. I bring it up because I'm sensing
and getting from some
people who are intimately familiar
with the details of this case that this
is going to be the core of the Mueller report, this trump tower meeting and the report is going to ignore
the entire democrat clinton dnc involvement in all of this stuff
and suckers are going to eat it up suckers disappointing
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small town thing and
this is an important story i've got so much you know what before one quick thing joe jesse kelly
has been banned on twitter by the way an iraq war veteran who ran for congress as a republican
this is i just want to put that out this is another example of twitter absolutely losing
their minds and banning people folks this is getting out of control with Twitter
and the social media space. And I'm going to put out the suggestion before that I put out before
a couple of times. I can't say who, but there are major entities who are really, really starting to
marshal the forces against Twitter right now. I'm going to suggest that someone, I don't know who,
but someone with a more prominent five, about 700,000,
someone with a following in the millions on the Republican side, if we could spread this around,
that we start some kind of a Twitter blackout, that we just get off the platform. You know what?
And you may say, oh, you know what? We're not going to get our ideas out there. You know what?
Let them feel it. Let them feel it for a month or two where 10, 20% of the conservative movement
just gets off the platform for a while.
Let them see it. Remember, you may think that's counterproductive. It's not.
Twitter functions on the exchange of information we voluntarily give. I'm happy to start it,
but we got to know that there's a critical mass of people. And if someone picked up the story,
Twitchy, Breitbart, Daily Call, or someone, and we started a Twitter blackout month or a Twitter blackout week or even a couple of
days.
If you want to keep it short, I understand some of you need it for business and I don't
want to hurt anyone.
I would absolutely get involved in that.
But it is time to Twitter needs to be taught a lesson by conservatives.
It is ridiculous.
They banned Jesse Kelly, an Iraq war veteran who ran for Congress.
It is just a shame.
So I have that story in the show notes today too.
I just wanted to bring that up quickly.
I can't suggest that in strong enough terms.
Something needs to happen with these people.
They have just taken way too many liberties
with their platform.
They're supposed to be a platform, not a publisher.
And they've thrown that out the window.
Okay.
Let's see.
This I want to talk about last week. I brought story up so i read a couple pieces i want to tie in a few different stories i've been
reading let me just give you the lead on the story first the lead on one story was that there's a
small town renaissance going on joe if i don't explain this well be the audience on budsman
and stop me because this is a critical story okay small town renaissance going on for economic
reasons which i'll get to in a minute meaning small towns which were being
hollowed out and many still are i don't want to be overly dramatic but there's been a renaissance
in a lot of small towns across america which are seeing populations uh move back in um they're
seeing a little bit of an economic renaissance there's a reason for that i want to tie it with
another story about voter trends that'll matter to you for 2020 and beyond.
And the voter trend story is that the Democrats, with their increasingly far left liberal lurch, which I told you about in the beginning of the show with the immigration thing, how they've lurched entirely to the left on immigration, is growing their support amongst their liberal base, but is alienating rural and exurb voters. In other words, small towns.
Why does this story matter to you? Folks, the growth and population growth over the last few
decades in American population centers, notably cities, has done significant damage to the
Republican political cause. I'm just giving you a tactical political fact.
There are a lot of theories out there why people who live in cities tend to go from
moderate to Democrat to liberal or just tend to leave the Republican Party and vote Democrat.
A couple of those theories are the reliance on public services.
Think about it, Joe.
You're familiar with Baltimore and I'm familiar with New York City, where I grew up in Queens. There is a heavy reliance in cities,
San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, on public transportation and public services.
A reliance that requires tax dollars and big government to support. I mean, if the trains go
out in New York City, in Manhattan specifically, I got news for you.
You're screwed.
There's just no getting around it.
Right.
So, again, I'm not suggesting these theories explain the 80-20 voting patterns of some of these big cities, Democrat versus Republican.
I'm simply suggesting there are a lot of theories out there, and I'm giving you some of them.
Again, one of them, the reliance on government.
That government, people see it as a net good in
their lives or a benefit because they use public services you just don't use in small towns.
Make sense, Joe? Police officers as well. Crime rates tend to be higher in cities. People want
cops, want more cops. When it comes to school teachers and stuff, people will rely on public
schools. They can't have an overproliferation of private schools because
the rents are expensive. So you'll rely on public services. Another theory out there is the group
think theory, that when you surround yourself with larger numbers of people and you hit a
critical mass of people who happen to be liberal and Democrat, that just by ideological osmosis
being surrounded by people of like mind, that you will tend to eventually at some point succumb to
far left theories yourself. You'll start to fold. When you were young, you believed in the second
amendment. All of a sudden you hear over five or six or seven years, a bunch of liberal cocktail
party, oh, guns are bad, guns are bad, guns are bad. Instead of the reality that people are bad,
using guns are just tools that eventually you start to just by social pressure alone succumb.
are bad using guns are just tools that eventually you start to just by social pressure alone succumb so the growth in cities as corresponded to a growth in democrat power in the coasts and in
the population centers which obviously in a constitutional republic can create a lot of
problems for conservatism now the double whammy is that small towns which tend to vote conservative
values these small towns have been hollowed out.
A lot of components to that.
The industrialization, the massive growth of China
onto the international commerce stage.
There've been a lot, you know,
the loss of labor-oriented jobs
and a largely services economy now.
But think about it.
Why would small towns tend to lean more conservative?
Because think about it. You have to rely more on your family.
You know, when you live in a city, you know, I'm not suggesting people in the city don't love their families.
Don't take that the wrong way. I grew up in New York City. I love my family to death.
I'm simply suggesting you don't have to rely on them as much.
If you live in a small town with not that many people and you need help, you know, you don't go to the handyman.
He may be hard to find and maybe one or two in town. Where do you go? You go to your cousin don't go to the handyman. He may be hard to find. It may be one or two in town.
Where do you go?
You go to your cousin.
You go to your brother, your uncle.
Hey, Uncle Joe, can you help me out with the house?
There's a reliance on family.
That family, if they tend to be conservative, they tend to grow up conservative.
That your group think is group think around conservative ideas, freedom, family, country,
the Second Amendment.
You've been around guns your entire life.
They're not scary to you. You haven't been indoctrinated by a bunch of
liberals telling you how awful and dangerous guns are. And it's not the people, it's the gun.
But there's also a self-selection effect in small towns and in cities as well. Small towns where
you're not surrounded by as many people, just as a matter of pure geography and population density
as people in big cities, Joe who are your facebook friends they're probably
other people in small towns who share your conservative thoughts which i believe are right
ideologically no no pun intended so just to be clear i'm just trying to explain why people in
cities tend to lean democrat why people in smaller towns and exurbs and stuff tend to lean conservative
there are a lot of explanations.
I'm not suggesting this is all of it, but it explains probably a large swath of it,
right?
One of the demographic trends, which Republican prognosticators and strategists, I know, some
who are very good, by the way, have told me in the past was going to be big trouble, is
Joe, the hollowing out of America's small towns, again, due to deindustrialization and other things, was causing a real problem because as people move into these
cities, they're exchanging and swapping out their conservative values for the Democrat party and
liberal values. This was going to be the demographic trend in the future that they believed was going
to lead to a large scale wiping out of the Republican Party nationally, in their national power. We'd be a bunch of small-town mayors. Folks, that's changing. This is why these two stories
are tied together. There was an interesting piece in the Wall Street Journal last week,
which talks about how the growth of two specific things, Joe, is leading people to move back into
small towns now, which is starting to reinvigorate the conservative
vote.
And that's why I think it's tied to the second story about how Democrats are now getting
crushed in the rural and exurb vote.
What are those two factors, Joe?
Internet shopping and mobility services.
Now, think about it.
If you lived in a small town in the past, your access, Joe, 30 years ago,
your access to products was through the Sears catalog. You probably had, I mean, I don't want
to be the little house on the Prairie, but you probably had some form of a general store,
a supermarket, a hardware store. But that was really it. I mean, Home Depot is not going to
move into a small town with only a thousand residents. They can't afford the infrastructure
to build out a massive store that's only going to cater
to probably a couple hundred people.
So Home Depot would be in bigger cities, suburbs, where the population was dense.
Joe, now with internet shopping, none of that crap matters anymore.
You go on Amazon, you go on eBay, it doesn't matter.
You go on Walmart.com and you buy whatever the heck you want and it
shows up at your front door. The small towns, people are moving back in because they realize
now they're no longer economically isolated from the rest of the country. Matter of fact,
they're not economically isolated at all. You may say, well, Dan, surely they're affected in
the services industry. You can't get a lawyer. No, you can.
You can go to like whatever, lawyers.com or whatever it is.
You're going to see the growth show of telemedicine?
Oh, they're not going to have access to the best doctors.
No, I promise you, you will.
There'll be a surgery center set up.
There'll be people who can do telemedicine.
All of this stuff is moving in the direction where that flow, Joe, the population flow may not reverse itself completely, but it may stem the tide of people from the exurbs and rural America into cities
because they don't need the cities anymore. Oh, here's a big one. I didn't even, how did I miss
this one? Telework. Yeah. I work from home. I'm looking at Joe right now at his home studio.
Joe and I both both we don't have
to leave the house ever matter of fact i rarely do outside of working out i hate i hate it sometimes
but there's no geographic limitation on me for at all i send joe an adobe edition file he cleans it
up it gets published on itunes people literally all over the globe listen to our show i get an
email from new zealand the other day, you got a big following over here.
I was like, hey, thanks, man.
Love you guys.
You don't have to move into the city anymore.
Why does this matter?
That the flow, the population flow may stop or even reverse itself a bit.
Because the Democrats are getting annihilated politically in rural areas of america
they're getting crushed the article i read which is that now the article about the democrats
getting crushed was in the new york times so i'm not even going to bother posting it i'll just sum
it up for you folks barack obama obama did better in these rural areas in 2008 running.
Remember the hope he changey stuff, Joe?
Listen, Obama's initial run.
Don't please.
Folks, I love putting my email out there, but don't mistake what I'm saying.
I'll get a thousand emails.
I am not suggesting Barack Obama wasn't a radical liberal.
Are we clear?
Period.
Full stop.
He was. I'm not denying it. I'm simply
stating to you, having lived through his 2008 election on the inside when I worked with the
Secret Service, he did not run that way. He ran as a liberal, but not a complete Bernie Sanders guy.
He was. But he ran on the hopey changey stuff and all this, you know,
we're going to bring back American, you know, we're going to clean up the oceans and I'm
going to save the world, but apart the heavens.
Barack Obama did better in these rural exurb communities than the Democrats did in the
midterms.
And then the Democrats did in the Trump election versus Hillary Clinton. It's getting worse. My point, folks, is if the Democrats can't
rely on increasingly high numbers of votes from people leaving rural, small town America and
moving into the cities and the flow starts to move back and the Democrats
continue to hemorrhage, hemorrhage voters like they're doing now, the demographic destiny
may be on the side of conservatism, not on the side of liberalism.
This is not a small deal. Why is the New York Times bringing this up in their piece?
Because there's a race in Mississippi right now between Cindy Hyde Smith and Mike Espy.
The Republican is Smith.
The Espy is the Democrat.
The Democrats are trying to paint Cindy Hyde Smith as a racist because that's what they always do.
But the Times piece, Joe, says the Democrats are in a difficult quandary right now
because they realize that if they use Espy, the Democrat, to paint all the Mississippi
Republicans who are, gosh, what, 60% of the vote in Mississippi, if not more,
that if they try to paint them all as racist racist that the hemorrhage is going to continue
and they cannot count on these population centers in mississippi to save them anymore in other words
joe the democrats please understand we're going with this point number one people because of uh
uber mobility services and the internet the fact that they can get around in small towns just by
calling an uber now they don't need a subway get around in small towns just by calling an Uber now,
they don't need a subway,
are staying in small towns.
If the small towns don't hemorrhage population
and the population flow reverses
and the Democrats get smoked 90 to 10
in small towns, GOP versus Democrat,
they have no Democrat future, the Democrats,
because they were counting on city dwellers
to pick up the slack.
The calculation by the New York Times, though, is that all of the Democrats,
you're a racist, you're a racist attacks, are garnering them on the margin, Joe.
Very few additional voters in the cities as they continue to hemorrhage en masse.
Voters in small town America who are tired of being called a racist.
Listen to me. This is a very real conversation going on in the Democrat Party right now.
How much more can how often and how much more can we throw the race card at America before small town America, which isn't losing population to the effect it was in the past?
How much more can they tolerate before it's 99 to 1 in small towns
and only 70, 30 in the cities?
Are you tracking?
Because this is a big debate.
The Democrats are not stupid.
Notice how Espy,
the Democrat in Mississippi,
although trying to,
there's no question he's trying to paint
Cindy Hyde-Smith as a racist.
None, because that's what they do. Notice, though though how he's been very delicate and how he handles it he's
never outright called her a racist he's been like well i could see what's in her head he listen he's
being disingenuous i'm not defending the guy i'm just saying folks so you understand what's going
on behind the scenes in that race the democrats Democrats have told Espy, be very careful with this
because we're hitting a critical mass on the race card.
We've called so many people racist
that we are absolutely getting destroyed
in small town America
and we may not have the votes in 2020 in the cities
to get these votes back.
Even the New York Times knows it.
And thanks to transportation, Uber, Lyft, and other services, and the internet, and
internet shopping, don't expect the small towns to continue to hemorrhage, folks.
The demographic future may be on our side.
And the Democrats are starting to realize right now that this race car isn't working
anymore.
For every one vote they gain, they're losing five or six.
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