The Dan Bongino Show - Ep.778 It's Getting Ugly Out There
Episode Date: August 6, 2018Summary: In this episode I address the new rules for dealing with aggressive liberal violence. I also discuss the fascinating new details revealed in the Spygate probe.  News Picks: This Quin Hill...yer piece takes issue with the new rules of political confrontation.  This Townhall piece covers the radical Left’s troubling double standards.  Twitter is talking cheap shots at conservatives, again! Look what they did to Candace Owens.  Trump is a class act. Watch what he did when he saw a group of local firefighters.  This piece covers a sophisticated assassination attempt in Venezuela.  Before an election is the best time for a budget fight.  The University of Virginia takes a stand against liberal bullies.  Here’s the video of Candace Owens being confronted.  Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today
hanging in there dan arino how you doing dude i was having a great morning until i i follow on
twitter uh candace owens um who you may be familiar with, conservative commentator.
And just right as I had the whole show prepared, I see a tweet from her.
She's having breakfast with Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA.
There's a video on Twitter this morning in Philadelphia.
And they're literally attacked by Antifa slobs, animals, pigs, human filth in Antifa.
Oh, that bothers you?
Someone texted me, calling Antifa pigs?
I don't know if that's the right approach.
This show may not be for you, okay? Matter of fact, they're worse than pigs, because I don't know pigs that go and attack other pigs for no good reason.
It's usually like for food or resources or you mess with the...
These are just pigs.
These are just savages. You got to see this. They walk up to them. They throw water all over the guy. They start screaming in a megaphone or ear that thank God for the good cops of Philadelphia. today so that this show is not entirely disconnected but this is incredible what's going on because there's a piece out in the Washington Examiner Joe um and I like a Quinn Hillier I
have no problem uh uh you know with the writing there but there's a piece by Quinn Hillier and
it says hey listen we've got to get back to some semblance of standards and we have to stop this
whataboutism I'm like wait what the whole argument we've been making as conservatives against Antifa
and these radical, violent leftists and Maxine Waters calling for confrontation
is to get back to standards.
Did you miss that?
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So, yeah, they're out having breakfast this morning, and the video is just deeply disturbing
because this happens over and over and over again.
You saw the video months ago with
Tommy Lahren out in a restaurant, I think it was in Seattle. And what is with these unhinged,
deranged leftists, you cowards, you punks, you human filth, with the throwing water on people?
By the way, I abhor violence. I've said this repeatedly. If you're a listener to the show,
you understand where I'm going, but it always bears repeating because liberals don't seem to understand what we're made of. They will continue to lie to people and tell them we're the violent ones. No, we are conservatives bound by higher values, big R rights given by God, including big R rights given to people who are ideological opponents.
including big r rights giving to people who are ideological opponents i respect the rights of liberals who i vehemently disagree with on their ideology and respecting those rights means joe and
it's really unbelievable we even have to say this but some liberals are so dumb they don't even
understand this respecting your rights means we are not interested in engaging in any kind of
physicality with you and in any, shape, or form. We will
defend ourselves if you attack us, but our limitations and our red line is our faith.
Wouldn't you agree, Joe, being a spiritual guy yourself? Preemptive violence is an absolute
red line for us and is a big, fat no. The fact that we even have to say this is so disturbing,
but the liberal media and others who
paint us as these maniacs don't understand that what they're really covering up is violence by
the left the radical leftist joe doesn't have these red lines these red lines don't exist right
they are they are god-hating and i'm not talking about democrats let me be crystal clear i'm talking
about this radical left that is now hijacking this party. They are secular, God-hating people who have no red line on their behavior at all.
They will attack you.
They will hurt you.
They will spit on you.
They will throw drinks on you.
They will throw liquids on you.
They will do anything they can to demean, physically hurt, and destroy you, your credibility, and everything out there.
These are violent people.
Stop pretending otherwise. The evidence now is overwhelming. And destroy you, your credibility, and everything out there. These are violent people.
Stop pretending otherwise.
The evidence now is overwhelming.
Joe, can you think, this is an honest question, I'm not messing with you.
Can you think of a circumstance where you would actively go track down, like these Antifa people did this morning with conservatives Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA. Can you think of a scenario where you would go with a megaphone and actively track down a far leftist to throw water on them to verbally and physically assault them on your own time?
Can you think of a scenario where that would happen?
I mean, I'm asking you a dumb question and you're looking at me perplexed because it's
a dumb answer because the answers automatically know and everybody knows it.
But do you understand for the left, the answers automatically yes?
Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll find them.
Oh, yeah, we'll throw stuff on them, attack them.
And Charlie Kirk and Candace, to their credit, if you watch the video, you know what?
I'll put a link to the tweet on my link.
I'm just taking a note, folks.
Sorry, I don't want to miss it.
I'll put a link to the tweet in the show notes today.
I'll also put the Quinn Hillier piece from the Washington Examiner
which takes the alternate approach. Like, hey,
we have to stop calling them out and focus
on our own principle. Focus on our own
principles. What? Principles are gone.
Do you understand we're boxing a guy
who's got no gloves on?
Anyway, I'm by principle. Principle.
Principle. Principle.
Then he kicks you square in the cojones.
You're like, oh, Principal. Then he kicks you square in the cojones. You're like, oh, Principal.
This is, and she take, the article takes a shot at us.
Oh, yeah, listen, you know, we have to get back to, you know, standards.
What do you think we're doing here?
Let me just square away a couple things here why the new rules matter for those
you heard my show the other day we talked about the new rules here are the new rules
which a lot of these authors now and anti-trumpers are taking a shot at they're like well you know
new rules we should steal back to the old rules the old rules are this we conservatives and
libertarians are principal people yeah we still we still are. We still are principal peoples. And we should stick to a bunch of
standards, even if the left throws our standards out the window. Do you understand what's going on
here? Here are the new rules, old rules, standards. We should all stick to standards.
These standards should matter. We should not call out Hillary and the Democrats for their mistakes.
We should focus on cleaning up our own house and we should focus on Trump's behavior before he got in office and all that other stuff, because then we'll look like we took the high road later on.
That's the old rules.
You understand that, Joe, that the anti-Trump crowd and the people who don't understand the fight we're in, I don't know if they live in bubbles or what it is.
anti-Trump crowd and the people who don't understand the fight we're in, I don't know if they live in bubbles or what it is, they seem to think that by conservative commentators,
libertarians, and Republicans, by us, Joe, calling out our own and not calling out the Democrats for
their hypocrisy and their lack of standards and their violence, some Democrats, by us focusing
on our own, that we will somehow look like the principled folks to the liberals.
The liberals will see these shining examples of ideological and principled armor and they'll be like, we need to be more like them.
No, that is not the fight we are in.
Do you understand this?
You can't stand in the battlefield in trench warfare, get out of the trench and go, I think trench warfare.
warfare get out of the trench and go i think trench warfare he was gonna say i think trench warfare sucks but he didn't get to that because he got shot and died trench warfare does suck it
is awful but the way to stop it is not to get out of the trench and scream we got principles and our
principles dictate trench warfare is awful these the liberals don't care. Do you understand they don't care? They're not looking,
Joe, they're not looking for a behavioral example of how to behave because they don't have any red
line. There's no limits. They've already decided how to behave. To attack, attack, attack, harass,
scream, yell, demean, bankrupt. They've already decided that there are no rules here that this is a war
that this war she attacks people for taking this manichean view in other words everything's a good
versus evil fight not everything is but with the radical left it absolutely is i'm not suggesting
we shouldn't as conservatives try to convert democrats and moderate democrats to a a more
conservative line of thinking.
I'm not suggesting that at all.
I'm suggesting the radical left has already forfeited that away.
They have already committed to attacking people, to big government statism, to deadly,
torturous socialism.
They have already committed to a way of, they're not interested in negotiation.
Why do you think they are?
I don't understand where you're getting this from they are not looking for detente and us pretending the
rules still matter in a boxing match where the liberals are fighting with no they're fighting
bare knuckle we're fighting with 20 ounce gloves and you keep screaming to the ref
well you know part of the problem is nobody can fathom that this would ever happen here, this brown shirt action.
No.
Everybody thought, and you know, I have a note on it.
I'm glad you brought that up.
The old rules were that public spaces where people congregate were generally not places for political confrontation.
congregate were generally not places for political confrontation. The old rules were, if you went to a restaurant with your family or a restaurant with your friend like Charlie Kirk and Candace
Owens in Philadelphia, and you were a patron at the business and spending money, that you were
generally assumed to be free from being attacked. Those rules are gone. And you expect us to do what? To sit there and
take it? No, I'm not suggesting at all that we reverse that behavior and attack them. I just
said the opposite. But suggesting that we should somehow, I just want to be clear on this, what
I'm saying. Suggesting somehow through this Washington Examiner piece that we should instead, in our triage of responsibilities,
what's most important to us,
that we should focus on Trump's behavior pre-presidency
as an example to the left about,
look, us conservatives, we're cleaning up our own house,
as if Trump's behavior is in any way relevant
to his conservative decision-making now,
while we're in a fight and being physically attacked by people,
is insane.
In my triage of responsibilities,
the new rules matter.
And the new rules now are about winning.
Winning on taxes,
winning on education,
winning on healthcare,
and winning on owning the libs
at every opportunity.
Because if we don't own the libs,
and forgive me, I know some people out there who I respect in the Republican circle,
we shouldn't focus on owning the libs.
That's fine.
I get it.
And I respect your opinion.
I'm just telling you that if we don't own the libs, they will literally own you.
Literally.
Literally the most overused word in the English language.
They will own your money.
They will own your healthcare. They will own the public spaces
and you will be forbidden from going
outside.
Oh, that's a little dramatic. Is it? Really?
Is it?
Now, I'm fine down here in Florida and Texas
and other places, but are we
okay anymore as being, if you're
any kind of a prominent conservative voice,
are you okay to go outside? Listen, I'm cool with it, folks. folks let me be crystal clear i'm not a snowflake at all i don't
i i'm not afraid of these people not one bit sadly i've spent my entire life training for violence
and it's not like hey look at me i don't forget that stuff but i have kids and my daughter knows
exactly what to do when this happens.
Sadly, I've had to actually coach my daughter.
I'm not telling anybody on the air with, because I don't,
but my daughter knows exactly what to do.
My 14 year old daughter, we've had to go through this repeatedly.
I just got back from New York where I got a couple.
And I think me being, you know, six, one, 230 pounds mutes a lot of this,
but we got some eyeballs and some people who I knew wanted to say something.
And my daughter knows exactly how to handle it.
Because we're ready.
You want to play ball?
We're ready to play ball.
You got no idea what's coming on your end.
You want to be a social media star?
You know where to find me.
I told her, Daddy will be okay.
I have to have this conversation with my daughter.
So one thing, Joe brought up.
When you're ready to go back to the old rules,
that public spaces are sane places
where conservatives, liberals, liberals libertarians communists whatever
can eat in peace we are all more than ready to take you up on that offer until then the new
rules are in effect and right now it is about winning and crushing the lips at the polls their
ideology and at every single minute you can on social media, going on, absolutely going on the defensive
and taking them on on every single stupid thing they tweet.
Own them at every opportunity.
When you want to go back to the old rules,
we're all ready to play ball.
Number two, modeling decency will not work.
I had to take some, I didn't want to miss anything.
Modeling decency for them,
they're not looking for decency.
Hillier writes in the piece,
oh, you know, if we just sit there
and we focus on Trump and his incivility,
which I don't agree with at all, by the way,
but it's incivility.
I told you, he's a Queens guy.
This is how we work.
This is how we operate.
I'm from Queens too.
This is how we roll, right?
But even if you accept that premise that
this will somehow model decency for the left and we'll go back to the old rules assumes they're
looking for decency they're not looking for model decency they're looking for confrontation violence
and aggression what did you did you miss this uh you know maybe because you write for the listen i
love the washington examiner but maybe because you're you i don't know i'm not trying to be a
jerk here i know it's going to come out wrong, so just forgive me in advance, but I don't know any other way to say it.
If I did, I'd be more diplomatic.
But maybe because Hillier doesn't have that big of a profile, you know, that the confrontation isn't there.
But as you grow in prominence, and I'm not being a jerk, I mean it, but as you get the facial ID and the name ID and people start to recognize you,
you get confronted all the time.
I was in JFK Airport, was it three months ago?
Guy on the line.
You know how the lines loop back and forth,
so you wind up seeing the same person over and over at the DSA line.
Guy says to me, hey, you know, you're Dan Bongino from Fox.
Yeah, and it started out nice.
He didn't say anything.
And then I looped by him again.
The guy starts screaming at me.
Ah, Donald Trump, we're going to be losing his mind.
Yeah, the TSA guy had to ask him, hey, you need to calm down or you can't get.
Right, he did.
He had time to think about how enraged he was.
And I just kept saying to him, which drove him nuts.
I think I talked about this when it happened.
It drove him crazy. Why are you so angry why why are you so hateful i'm not
angry i'm not you're angry yeah hey bonger yeah they were like people were by the way when the
tsa guy approached the guy everybody around him even the lips started clapping because the guy
was so annoying listen i, I get it.
But why are you so filled with hate, liberals?
The answer is because they hate you.
They're not looking for some model of decency.
We are in an actual fight here with people.
Joe, this is not complicated
to people like you and I who've had to live through this
you know did you read that article I'm thinking of CPAC because Joe usually comes with me to CPAC
there was an article written by a liberal who went to CPAC the conservative political action
conference 99.99% of the people outside of the media they are diehard conservatives and libertarians
so this former Obama support well Obama support not former she wasn't obama supporter big time democrat goes there and
writes this lengthy piece like man i was shocked i was treated so civilly people invited me out for
drinks people were inviting me to their conferences and meanwhile joe and i were reading this we're
like yeah so like the article wasn't the liberals couldn't believe this oh my gosh this is crazy
this is national news conservatives are civil we don't let me wrap this up on this one on this
on this point on this one because i know you like this point joe we do model decency after faith
based spiritual values we are all sinners we are not not claiming, listen, I'm nobody's role model.
I'm claiming to, I have an objective good.
That objective good is what, in my case, Jesus Christ and others,
has set out as an example for me.
An example I fail at hourly, if not by the minute.
I try, but I have an example of what I want to model my behavior after.
The left doesn't have that.
I'm not talking about Democrats. They're a very spiritual Democrat. I'm talking model my behavior after. The left doesn't have that. I'm not talking about Democrats.
They're a very spiritual Democrat.
I'm talking about the radical left.
This is a secular, golden calf state operation
that worships the state, power, violence, and aggression.
They're not looking for a model for decency.
Why are you confused about this?
They are looking to attack you.
You pretending, oh, if we just focus on Trump,
they'll go, hey, maybe I shouldn't kick Joe's butt today while he's eating out in a restaurant.
Because, you know, I heard Joe the other day call out Donald Trump because 15 years ago,
you know, he was a playboy in New York. Are you crazy?
Seriously, are you like in one of those marijuana states and smoking the dupes
i mean what are you are you nuts did you drink heavily last night they're not looking for model
decency these people are to be owned owned pwned is like i call you google it you'll get the joke
i know please don't tell me I spelled it wrong.
Just Google it, you'll get it.
I got caught with that on Levin one time.
They need to be ideologically taken down at every opportunity.
On Twitter, on Facebook.
That's why I say, I don't want to argue with my left-leaning liberal friends.
I don't want to lose them.
You've already lost.
What are you talking about?
You want to lose your country?
No, argue at every opportunity.
So number one, the standards are the fight.
Stop pretending, oh, we need to return to standards.
No, that is the fight.
They're not interested in that.
And until they understand the ramifications of their own decisions,
this is where I disagree with conservative commentators on that guy.
Who was it?
Oh, the Disney director of Guardians of the Galaxy, that guy James Gunn.
There are conservative commentators out there.
And again, I respect them and I respect their opinion.
It's not personal.
This guy sent out the most disgusting tweets years ago about pedophilia,
just grotesque, disgusting tweets.
He was fired by Disney.
He's the guardians of the galaxy.
There are conservatives going, well, you know, we got to go back to rules where people are allowed to make mistakes.
OK, when that happens, good.
We'll all allow everyone to say sorry.
Until that day, the new rules are in effect.
The new rules are this.
If a conservative who tweeted 57 years ago,
I get it, it's a joke.
You know, hey, listen, whatever.
Barack Obama stinks, and he's supposed to be fired for that.
Then the same rules now apply to liberals.
When you want to return to the old rules,
where we're all allowed to say stupid stuff and apologize,
I'm totally game.
But if Roseanne's to be fired for what she acknowledges is a horrible tweet,
then James Gunn has to go too.
When liberals are ready to go back to the old rules, we're all game.
But until we can agree on standards, the standards are the fight.
Modeling decency won't work.
Point number two. Point number three with the libs winning isn't
good enough for them joe right winning is not good enough when they win on an issue they're
not looking for detente they're not looking to sit down at the table and go okay we won in the
supreme court on an issue like gay marriage
how do we now sit down with conservatives and accommodate sincere religious beliefs and their
space and their freedom with our belief that men and women who are gay should be able to marry how
do we do that that's they're not interested do you understand they are interested in crushing you
you got a baker who is inconsequential to the
national argument at all and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things there are thousands
of bakers who will bake a cake for a gay wedding you got a baker says i'll bake you whatever you
want i'm just gonna not gonna do custom artwork via my cake my cake is my art for that wedding
because i have a spiritual disagreement with that, which should be respected.
You are to be bankrupted and put out of business.
Winning isn't good enough for the left.
You're attempting to agree on a sit down and standards of conduct for a sit down.
This is what the never Trumpers want.
We should call out Trump for standards of conduct and sit at the table with the libs.
They aren't interested
in sitting at the table.
They're interested in doing
the Teresa Gadis
from Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Yeah, and she flips the table.
They don't care.
Why do you think
they want to sit down with you?
They don't care.
Listen to me. they're not interested winning is not good enough you are to be crushed crushed conservative business owners are to be boycotted spiritual people who do artwork whether it's
floral or whether it's uh past and cakes, whatever it may be.
You are to be bankrupted.
You're to be destroyed.
You're to be put in jail in the case of the Kentucky court clerk.
Standards?
What standards?
Their standards are violence, aggression, government force, weaponizing, spying on the president.
You want standards?
One final thing
which I already said on this. I do have a lot
to get to. I got to clear up some stuff on Friday too.
Folks,
keep your head
on a swivel around these people.
We have a red
line. They don't.
This is not a joke.
I'm not sure if it's because
I worked in the Secret Service
and saw the left at work
in the Bush administration
and what they do.
We have a red line.
I saw this.
Listen, you liberals listening,
you can throw this out
and discount it all you want
because I'm a conservative.
That's fine.
Honestly, I don't care. I'm talking to reasonable people, which does not include you.
When I worked for George Bush as a Secret Service agent, I saw these liberal rallies.
Some of the signs were insane. The effigies, it was disgusting. When the same thing happened with
Barack Obama and I'd see the conservative rallies at these sites they were far different
they were controlled, they were peaceful
and I saw the conservatives police their own
once in a while you'd have a guy show up with some stupid sign
and you know what, they'd usually be thrown out
usually, sometimes people slip in
and bad stuff happens, but I'm telling you
as a general rule, these liberal rallies
were far more out of control
and far more vitriolic
we have a red line. Our red line
is bedrocked in spiritual values. People who believe in faith and family. We're not saying
we're better than you. We're just saying we have an objective truth that's good. Your objective
truth is power and government and any tactic you
need that ends will always be justified by the means you accept to do it and the far left has
clearly accepted confrontation a violent confrontation this was disgusting this morning
now folks i have a couple articles up in the show notes one by uh derrick hunter who's a friend of
mine um derrick has a piece up in town hall joe knows derrick uh derrick has a a piece about these
double standards now how the left has only a standard for republican behavior but no standard
whatsoever if people on left they talk about that New York Times reporter, in case you missed it.
The New York Times, excuse me, editorialist, who was hired by the New York Times.
Who just these disgusting tweets about white people, about cops.
So Candace Owens from Turning Point, I don't know if you heard this, changed the tweets.
Verbatim, except for one word.
The person hired by the New York Times who tweeted horrible things about white people candace owens who happens to be
black herself by the way change the tweets to being about black and jewish people otherwise
verbatim she was banned by twitter for 12 hours for tweeting the exact same thing that this woman
hired by the new york times tweeted about white people but it was never banned it's disgusting by the way you want it joe you got that can you queue up the crazy lady
yeah yeah you want to hear who the radical left is these are the people you want to have so let
me get this straight again and the hill your piece we want we should be debating right now
trump's pre-presidential behavior rather than going full force to kind of re-establish some sense of
normalcy and owning these people at every single opportunity ideologically speaking
this is the kind of nonsense we are dealing with right now with the left
i made a song if it fits you, so be it.
If it doesn't.
America, you mother******.
You drug addict.
You KKK, you fascist USA.
I'll say it one more time.
America, you mother******.
You drug addict.
You KKK, you fascist USA.
That was the lady who was caught protesting on the Statue of Liberty.
This is the insanity you're dealing with with the radical left.
So let me just restate this and move on with new rules are in effect and the new rules will stay in effect.
And the new rules are this. We don't care one bit about Trump's pre-presidential behavior.
And we don't we care even less about his tweets and I care even less about your disagreements with his personality and the fact that he takes it to you. We don't care. New rules. Hashtag don't care. Thank you. Have a nice day. All we care about is winning and beating you. to get back to the old rules and conversations about civility in politics and what the rules
should be for public spaces and how we shouldn't violently attack people we will welcome that
conversation with open arms until then the new rules are in effect disregard these never trumpers
and they're ah we should focus on trump and all those people i don't care new rules are in effect
win win win win. Win congressional races.
Win Senate races.
Win on Twitter.
Win on Facebook.
Win the mayor's race.
Win the city council race.
Win the rallies.
Win the people that show up at the Trump rallies.
Win against the media.
Win, win, win.
When you want to get back to a conversation about the old rules, we are more than willing.
But as of now, when you continue to attack us, the new rules are in effect.
We win, you lose.
Those are the new rules.
Period.
How about that?
How about that?
Damn right.
You got Mel Allen, too?
We got to give Mel Allen a how about that.
How about that?
All right.
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Okay, speaking of books, I got an interesting Facebook message this weekend from a gentleman
who posted on my page.
He said, Joe, well, he didn't say Joe.
He said, Dan, I'm saying Joe, I just got around to reading your second book, The Fight, which
I really enjoyed writing.
And the book was about security challenges in the coming year.
He goes, my gosh.
He's like, the book is oddly prophetic. He's like year he goes my gosh he's like the book is
oddly prophetic he's like two things in this book i wrote five years ago he's like you're talking
about things in his book that in the book that are all happening right now i go into uh drones
and drone technology and how this is going to be a danger in the future and how you know with 3d
printers in the future it's going to be almost impossible once these programs get out there um to to stop the the printing of of firearms in many cases as the government wants to
um you know the government's always looking to infringe i mean meanwhile gunsmithing's been
around forever but the drone thing just quickly i have an article in the show notes did you see
what happened with maduro in venezuela the communist uh now listen he's a communist but um
in Venezuela, the communist, now listen, he's a communist, but someone tried to assassinate him.
So they did it via drone. And if you read that book, I have a whole chapter on this,
how this is going to be the challenge in the future for protection, security, for law enforcement, and even for our military folks. These drones are almost undetectable and they flew up. If you
missed the story,
I have the article in the show notes again
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But please check it out.
You'll see what happens.
They fly a drone with an explosive
right overhead and the thing detonates.
Now his security team gets around him
and winds up shuffling him out of there.
But this is going to be a serious problem in the future. And I go into all kinds of things like RF,
RF connectivity, how, you know, in the past, the idea was, okay, well, we'll just break the
connection between the drone operator and the drone. It's usually an RF signal. And therefore
the drone would fall, you know, it would have no commands. It would fall to the ground or whatever,
or they could control it. The problem is a lot of these now folks can be geo-targeted and they don't have to talk
to an operator anymore.
In other words, you go here, this lat, this launch, this latitude, longitude, whatever
it may be, and you just do this and there's no RF signal to deal with at all.
So this is going to be a real problem, whether it's going to be laser targeting, but I discuss a lot of that, whether it's going to be nets, swarms of drones as a counter to the enemy swarm of drones.
These are real problems.
And I remember when I wrote the book, a lot of people, oh, that's kind of, isn't that a little Star Trek-y or something?
Like you're getting a little ahead of yourself.
Well, no.
Like I said, I wrote the book five years ago.
And if you watch the video Maduro, you'll see this is going to be a big problem in the future.
Okay, moving on because there was some more news on Friday.
Devin Nunes, the Republican from California who has been all over, all over the Spygate operation.
Thank God for this guy.
Please support this man if you're in his congressional district.
He has just been terrific.
He gave an interview to the Sean Hannity radio program.
And the interview, there were a couple of, as always, whenever, we usually get them from
the Maria Bartiromo show, who's been doing great work on the weekends.
But this one was on Friday.
There's a couple of pieces of sound.
It's a long interview.
It's 20 minutes.
So Joe and I had to kind of pick the two ringers in there.
But there's two clips from this I want you to pay very close attention to um let's go to clip number one first
and nunes brings up an important point about just to give you a little background on what he's saying
jim comey when he came out with his book the former fbi director folks
his defense to no we just didn't use the fake dossier to target trump his defense was there
was a mosaic in other words no there was other information out there those are his words jim
comey there was a mosaic of information john brennan called it the corpus of intelligence
the hack that he is the corpus now devin nunes you get you see where I'm going with this, right, Joe?
It wasn't the FBI under Comey and Brennan saying it wasn't just the fake dossier we used.
It was the mosaic.
It was the corpus.
Here's Devin Nunes on Hannity addressing that issue.
What's left, what's still redacted, is what Comey called the mosaic. And that's why this is so important, because the American public deserves to know what was the rest of the information.
And this should tell people a lot, Sean. Why? Right. When when the Pfizer was released, it was leaked to The New York Times a couple of weeks ago.
And what was it? What was their first messaging, the narrative that they tried to build right out of that?
This proves that Devin Nunes and the House Republicans were liars.
Well, that lasted about a whole 12 hours because I said, actually, no.
Just the opposite was true.
Yeah, because it was true.
And you also had them saying, well, the really juicy stuff,
not only were Nunes and the Republicans lying,
the real juicy stuff is in the redacted part well then we
actually showed a letter well wait a second we actually asked president trump to declassify this
a couple months ago and here's the pages ever since that happened you do not see anybody in
the left i'm talking about the from the democratic party to the media the hard media left, mainstream media left, to the Comey people, they are dead silent.
They don't want those pages released.
They're hoping that this issue goes away, which is why it's so imperative that President Trump declassify at least these 20 pages.
And I'm hopeful that he will.
And I'm hopeful that he will. And I have sources and you're not one of them, just to be very clear here.
But I have sources that have been telling me now for some time that if the 19, 20 pages are released with corroborating emails with them, that it will it will actually blow the entire Russian narrative out of the water, and it will be done over and finished.
All right.
Sorry about that echo at the end, but that was really, yeah.
You know what?
I should have, I heard a little bit of that in the thing, but just, it's all right.
Leave it in.
I'll just cut it off.
The whole point of the thing is in that sound clip right there.
That's my fault, by the way.
Now, producer chose.
He always tells me proof these, and I listen to it.
I didn't get back to him in time.
Now, just to be clear, it didn't even matter
what was said at the end on that one.
The mosaic.
You understand the defense, right?
You have to take this out to 30,000 feet
to understand what's going on
and why this scandal is so devastating
and why the Democrats are in a corner desperately right now
trying to box their way out.
The mosaic defense.
Oh, we didn't just use a fake dossier to spy on Trump and his team.
We used the Mosaic, the corpus.
Nunes, who is the Republican who has seen this information,
he understands the redacted portions.
He's seen it.
Has actually asked for this stuff to be unredacted.
Now, the big, huge, gold medal winning question right now is if Nunes is asking the president
to unredact, to take the blackouts out, and to let the American people see the mosaic,
and you'll see in clip two how devastating he thinks this stuff is.
What the heck is in there?
I'm going to play cut two, and then I'm going to give you my theory on what's in there
based on a good body of homework on this and how devastating this stuff's going to be.
Bruce Ohr was effectively the number two or three under the Deputy Attorney General,
both Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein.
His office was just a couple doors down.
His wife, Nellie Ohr, was working for Fusion GPS, which was digging up the dirt.
Or basically, I don't even think they were digging anything.
I think they were just making stuff.
Wasn't she part of the team that was putting together the dirty dossier?
Yeah, so she was the one working for Fusion, working with Christopher Steele to compile this.
At the same time, Bruce Orr, one of the top people at the Justice Department, was secretly meeting with who? Christopher Steele to compile this. At the same time, Bruce Orr, one of the top people at the Justice Department,
was secretly meeting with Christopher Steele.
So Chuck Grassley has asked for about a dozen of these 302s,
which are a number of an FBI report.
He wants them declassified.
I've seen them.
We have the Bruce Orr note.
I have been hearing rumors for a long time that these 302s were altered and changed after the fact.
Well, I think that is referring to the General Flynn 302.
I don't think that the Bruce Ohr 302s were changed, but remember what we're saying here.
One of the top guys in the Department of Justice, a guy who's supposed to be in management,
Christopher Steele gets fired, gets terminated. The FBI says we're not going to use him anymore.
But actually, they were. They actually took one of the top DOJ lawyers, and essentially,
he ran Steele as a source. So Bruce Ohr just took the place of Steele and was getting information
from Steele and still feeding it into the FBI. And none of this, none of this ever made it to the court.
Whoa!
How about that?
What?
Now, the reason I play a lot of Devin Nunes material on this show
is because, as my wife said, she's the best.
We were eating last night in the house and
she's listening to this interview because i have it playing on my iphone at the table because this
is what i do my entire life is content production she's like dan did you notice how he lets little
tidbits out in every joke you notice this newness little tidbits but he never you know he never
breaches the there's this clearance or anything that. But there's always a little tidbit here or there.
And if you know what to listen for, you know exactly what's going on.
Folks, the mosaic, the mosaic Comey sites, it's not just the dossier.
There were other sources.
If you go back and listen to my early shows from episode number 628 on, Joe, what is one of the first things we highlighted?
We've always tried to bring this out umbrella-wise to a bird's eye view of what the big questions are.
One of the biggest questions left to be answered is if there was no official intelligence used to start this investigation, which we already know, in other words,
there was no vetted through appropriate IC,
intelligence community channels, information to start this.
How did an intelligence investigation start without official intelligence?
What was the question we asked?
We said the information superhighway and exposing it is going to be the key.
The real conspiracy here was a conspiracy to launder information on an information superhighway
from political operatives into law enforcement, but to launder it to make it seem that the
information was in fact coming from legitimate vetted intelligence community channels.
It was not.
embedded intelligence community channels. It was not. The question we'd asked all the way back to 628 on was the information superhighway. This is the political scandal. Do you understand where
I'm going with this, folks? Because it was political information used in a law enforcement
intelligence matter. It was not intelligence law enforcement sourced information now the way they made this information seem more
authentic was to clean it through multiple channels what were those channels first it was
steel himself working with the fbi who paid steel steel is a a former uk intelligence officer, a foreign intel officer who is working unquestionably
for a unit paid by Hillary Clinton to gin up information on Donald Trump. They are paying
foreign intel. None of that is in question. Steele already acknowledges that he did not go to Russia,
but that is information, the information multiple people have acknowledged from Kremlin connected sources.
So when Steele, this is what Nunes said there in case you missed it.
When Steele, who was working with the FBI and being paid, was found to be leaking information to the media in violation of his cooperation arrangement with the FBI.
Steele was fired because he was lying. Ladies and gentlemen,
the bedrock of a quality source in the court system. Judge, I swear this information is the
truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. I got it from Steele. The bedrock of that is being
able to verify Steele as an honest source who's telling you the truth.
Steele was terminated by the FBI with this cooperation agreement because he was lying about
what? About leaking information to the media. The FBI, do not leak to the media. I'm not leaking to
the media. You're leaking to the media. They caught him. They caught him leaking to the media.
Let him go. So instead of going back to the judge and saying, hey, listen, we have a problem with
our source. Our source is talking to we have a problem with our source.
Our source is talking to the media in violation with our agreement.
There's a history now here of dishonesty here and him not telling us the truth.
His credibility is at stake.
What did they do?
They doubled down. They doubled down.
They said, I'll tell you what, we can't formally use this guy anymore.
We can't formally use Steele because his credibility is now shot.
So here's what we're going to do.
Let's informally bring someone on on Fusion GPS who's got a connection to a high-ranking person in the Justice Department.
Oh, Nelly Orr.
Let's bring on the spouse of a guy who is a upper level manager in the Department of Justice.
Bruce Ohr has direct access to Rod Rosenstein, who signed off on the fourth FISA warrant, right?
This is why everybody's focusing on that fourth FISA, the last one, which is, by the way, the one I was addressing in the Friday show.
I'll get to that in a second.
Rod Rosenstein signs off on that fourth warrant.
He's got an office right near Bruce Ohr.
Bruce Ohr and the DOJ's wife is working for the same company
Hillary hired to gin up negative information on Trump.
Their main source there in that company, Steele,
is discredited because he's been lying about talking to the media.
So instead of letting him go and letting the case go,
what do they do?
They hire Bruce Ohr's wife,
who just relays the same Stee and letting the case go, what do they do? They hire Bruce Ohr's wife who just relays the same steel and the same stuff right back to Bruce Ohr who gives it to the FBI.
Now they're like, oh great, we can use it again.
What?
Do you understand the debacle we're dealing with? Notice what Nunes said.
He said, and the information was not in the FISA.
What does he mean by that?
He doesn't mean the Bruce or Nelly or Christopher Steele information
that shouldn't have been used because Steele had already been discredited.
He doesn't mean that information.
You may ask, well, Dan, how do you know this?
I'm pretty darn confident
the research here we have done in the book
has been the book is going to blow you away
there's a whole
chapter on Orr
I believe what happened here
is not that they didn't include
that information they didn't
include specifics of where the information came from
and the motivation of the person providing it.
In other words, they did not include specifics that the information coming from Orr,
who is now running a source as a lawyer, which I've never heard in my life.
The investigators do that.
In conjunction with the DOJ.
They didn't include the fact that when Orr
was interviewing with Christopher Steele,
in some cases after he'd been let go
by the FBI for dishonesty,
that Steele had mentioned to Orr
about this hatred for Donald Trump
and a passion to not get him elected.
I can almost guarantee you that's not in the FISA.
So in the FISA warrant is not, I'd be stunned if it's there, that Steele hated Donald Trump and didn't want him elected.
And that also was the information was coming from a source that had already been booted out of the FBI's cooperation agreement for lying.
How do I know this? Because if you look at what Chuck Grassley and Nunes are asking for to be
released, the picture, the real mosaic comes together. They now want publicly released the
email exchanges between Bruce Ohr and Christopher Steele,
and they want the FBI 302s, the interview summaries released between the FBI and Bruce Ohr.
Folks, what does that tell you? It tells you you've not been wasting your time here for the
last year almost. I've been telling you the whole time that the information superhighway,
how they took the same information from Christopher Steele
and laundered it,
cleaned it, to make it
look like it was legitimate
through multiple sources, that's
the scandal.
What do we know now?
We know this,
that the way to verify information
to get a warrant to spy on someone
in the federal government is to get it from a reputable source.
We know that didn't happen.
The source was fired.
Be clear, Joe.
There's only two ways to do this.
Folks, this is the essence of the scandal.
Please, this is really important.
When you are a federal agent working a source, you can go in front of a judge and you can use basically two prongs to authenticate the information given to you by the source. The source has personal knowledge of
it. You've used him before and that knowledge he has of these incidents has worked out in the past.
He's told you about three prior bank robberies because he knows the guy's robbing the banks.
If he tells you about a fourth, that's information you can likely use in a warrant.
The second way, if you haven't worked with a source in the past, or you have, and the
information is suspect, you have to independently verify that yourself.
Now, they had worked with Steele in the past, but Steele got booted for lying to them.
So their responsibility was to go out and verify the information independently.
And instead of doing it, what did they do? They took the exact same information from the exact
same guy. And instead of doing their homework, the Democrats, the libs and the swamp rats had
it shuttled through different channels to reach the same endpoint, the FBI. They said, well,
if we get the Steele information and Nellie Orr and Orr is working with Fusion GPS and her husband's in the DOJ, I'd love to see what these email exchanges say. Is it the same information being passed to a different channel? What about the Jonathan Weiner State Department channel?
an op-ed in the Washington Post saying how some of the same information in the memos we call the dossier from Steele wound up through Cody Scheer and Sid Blumenthal, political operatives not
working for the government, wound up in the State Department's hands and wound up with the FBI through
the State Department. Ladies and gentlemen, all roads lead back to Steele. It's the same information from a discredited source
that information superhighway is the scandal
now let me just clear up something on friday i'm really sorry i confused a lot of you on the date
the second story i'll get to another time i i get that part but i was deliberately being a bit
um and joe understands why because i don't want to hurt anybody so i'm like that part but i was deliberately being a bit um joe understands why because i
don't want to hurt anybody's unlike that i'm not going to do an adam schiff and really release it
for political reason that's not my job but on the myth sood story i've said to you repeatedly that
myth sood the guy who starts this whole thing by telling papadopoulos allegedly back in april
that the the russ Russians had dirt on Hillary.
The whole nexus of the Democrat narrative
is that Mifsud had to be a Russian asset
who was trying to get to the Trump team
to signal for the Russians
that they had dirt on Hillary to use.
The scandal, I believe,
the other big scandal
outside of the information superhighway
is that they framed the Trump team
by pushing the information into the Trump orbit.
We already know they spied on him.
That's scandal number three.
Scandal number one, the information superhighway.
Scandal number three, the spying out of the Trump team to pull the negative information out.
I believe scandal number two is that they pushed the information in.
That Mifsud's connections are to Western intelligence that may have pushed that in there.
And I had said to you that the Margo Cleveland piece, which is in the Friday show notes, which is a really good show, by the way, Friday, maybe
if you understand that now go back and listen again, it'll make sense that the fourth FISA
after the February meeting with Mifsud when the FBI interviews him has a footnote in there with
the FBI looking to protect the source. Who's that source? Is that source Mifsud? I had said to you
it was the January to March one. I'm sorry.od i had said to you it was the january to march one
i'm sorry i meant the fourth one after it was after not because some of you said well how can
that be how can they do a january to march footnote for uh you know for a if the renewal
was in january right for a meeting it didn't happen on february it was the fourth one covering
the january to march period does that make sense folks folks? In other words, the FBI interviews Ms. Sood,
who I highly suspect, I'm highly suspicious, I should say to be precise here, is a Western
intelligence source who is alleged to have pushed the information about dirt on Hillary into the
Trump team. In the FISA warrant re-up that appears after that meeting, there's a footnote about,
hey, we need to protect the source. Who's the source? Who's the source? Is it him? Is it Mifsud? Is that the push?
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Okay.
So this week, just to wrap up that other story, let's hope we get those 20 pages unredacted. I believe what's going to be in those documents is going to be documentary evidence that the Bruce Ohr information superhighway from Fusion GPS to the FBI was nothing more than an effort to circumvent the failures of Christopher Steele as a source and their failure to verify it. And it was
nothing more than an information superhighway created to make Christopher Steele's identical
information look verified, even though it wasn't. I also believe that this Mifsud connection is
going to get uglier and uglier until the Democrats have to finally admit that they, in fact, the
Democrats were the source for this. All right, one final story I saw on the Wall Street Journal today, which was interesting.
Folks, if you live in a big government state, it's heavy government spending.
And listen, some of them are not all blue states.
Some of them are red states, which have engaged in profligate spending as well,
whether it's a history of Democrat governors or even bad Republicans who spend a lot of money.
If your state is loaded down with big government pension obligations, which a lot of states are, this guy in the piece makes
a really, really terrific point. It's in the op-ed column on the Wall Street Journal today,
and it talks about how government pensions are creating a lien on your house. You're like,
wait, what? A lien on my house? That's crazy. Folks, a lot of these states out there,
and it goes into a couple of them, one of them being Alaska, but a lot of them being liberal states as well.
How if these government pension obligations are legally enforced, which they are in many states, Joe, there are state guidelines that say government employees who have these pensions, these things have to be paid no matter what, no matter what.
to be paid no matter what. No matter what. So the guy says, well, there's only really three ways to raise government income, a sales tax, an income tax, and a property tax. Now, the problem they're
having now, folks, is what's happening in liberal states. People are leaving. They're evacuating
en masse. So they're avoiding what? The sales tax and the income tax, because they're living
somewhere else. They're not paying the sales tax in California
because they're moving to, you know, whatever, to Texas.
They're not paying the sales tax in New York.
They're moving to Florida.
They're not paying the income tax either
because their legal residence is in a red state.
But what's left behind, Joe?
The property doesn't move.
So the point and the piece is an excellent one
that you better be prepared in the future
because these obligations are not going away this is real money these pension obligations to making
promises the government cannot possibly pay in the future i'm not knocking people work for live
don't take this door i'm just telling you the pure mathematics of it the money's got to come
from somewhere he was saying joe that you effectively have a lien on your home by the government. That if you are in a state that is struggling under massive pension obligations,
that sooner or later, as these people escape more and more, the burden is going to fall on the
property they can't escape. And as the taxes go up and up and up and up and up to pay these,
what's going to happen to the value of your house? It's going to go down and down and down and down.
Why, Joe? Because when you walk in a car dealer,
what is the first thing he tells you on financing?
The car dealer says,
hey, what monthly payment can you afford?
People think about,
they don't think about the price of a home
in terms of the price overall.
You may say, oh, of course.
No, they don't.
They really, they think about the monthly mortgage payment,
what they can afford.
If the monthly mortgage payment is 50% property taxes,
then listen, the value of the
home has to come down correspondingly so that they can make the monthly payment to pay the property
taxes. The value has to come down. And he talks about an example. That's what happened in Detroit.
Eventually, the burden of government spending fell upon the property. Now the property in a
lot of places is worthless.
Something to think about, folks.
Remember what I told you.
All debts are paid by the debtor or by the creditor.
That's a famous Milton Friedman line.
All debts are paid.
These debts on government-funded pension obligations,
they can't afford.
They will be paid.
They'll be paid by the person who lent them money, you,
or they'll be paid by
the debtor or the creditor.
The guy who fails to pay them back, then it's paid by you
or the person who does pay them back, which is you.
Either way, you pay. You're the debtor
and the creditor when it comes to government.
Keep that in mind.
That's why I left.
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