The Dan Bongino Show - First Signs That Trump's Tariffs Are Paying Off | Episode 15

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

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In the words of the Jedi Master Yoda, be gone the trade wars have. Yes, indeed. They have begun, the trade wars have begun. We're gonna get into all the details today of the economy, what's happening to the economy right now. People watching the stock market, a lot of hysteria going on right now,

but President Trump feeling very good this morning about the way everything is going as he looks to save the American economy. We'll get economy will get in all the details there got all sorts of ridiculous lefties to make fun of today of course it will do that. As well and then I got a great friend Daniel Turner stopping by the program will talk to him about American energy what this means. For America's energy producing communities all across our great country. That's all ahead on

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Everybody's freaking out. And by the way, you got a big retirement account. You got any retirement account, you're kind of watching the stock market right now. Of course, you know, you're going to be concerned about what's happening. But again, just to take you back to the big point of this week, President Trump is looking at decades of destruction of American communities and saying it's time for a big change. We've got to fix all of this. We've got to bring back production and economic growth to this country and help these struggling

American communities. This is what he ran on. There's no mystery here. He literally ran on this. He spent his entire political career talking about this. He spent his entire life, even before he was in politics, talking about this. Go back to the early 90s appearances on Oprah. This is what he's been singularly focused on. We are being taken advantage of and our politicians are too feckless to confront it. So Trump is confronting it right now, which

is really good. And by the way, I'm not here to give you financial advice, but if you believe in President Trump, as I do, and you're looking at this market lurch right now, as people are saying, it was down, as we speak, the Dow is down over a thousand points this morning. Isn't there some not small part of you going, haven't we seen this before? Didn't we seen like the COVID panic, what that did? Remember of March of 2020 as everybody was like, what's going to happen? And then the stock market came roaring back, of course. It came back roaring back under President Trump. It came roaring back.

And I feel like the same kind of nonsense is in the air right now. So I'll just be completely honest with you. I've like literally put some money into an index fund now I'm buying the dip I think it's a fun idea but again not the guy I'm not here to give you financial advice you do

whatever you want you know take whatever risk that you can endure- but it does feel like look I believe in this guy I for real and I'm gonna put a little bit of money behind it because I genuinely believe that the future is going to be

very bright. And it once again goes right to the core point, what many of the core points that I've been making this week, Trump is feeling good, which is a good sign. He's not beholden to Wall Street. Like Wall Street's in an all out panic right now. You think they wanted to be doing this with President Trump? No, Trump's on our side. He's not beholden to any billionaire. He's not captured by these guys.

He's the guy who's caring about us. I mean, that's the whole reason we keep electing him over and over and over. And so he's back and he's working at it. And so let me just start with some positive economic data that's just out this morning that you should know about. Trump's economy in March that you should know about. Trump's economy in March has added private sector jobs at a blistering pace. Again, to repeat, Trump's economy in March has added private sector jobs ahead of any economist expectations.

The United States just added 228,000 jobs in March, far outpacing the 140,000 jobs that economists had expected. So it was substantial increase over the expectations for March. And those job gains, do you know where they came from? They came from the private sector. This is not a Biden era story that I'm telling you. I'm telling you a Trump era story. And I don't just

mean this presidency. I mean during his last presidency and now yet again. Here's a really amazing piece of data for you. This is the first time we've had two months in a row of private sector job growth and government sector job shrinkage. Government sector jobs have gone down in this environment two months in a row and private sector jobs have gone up two months in a row. This is exactly what you want for a bunch of reasons. But again, I just there's a there's a data point that's worth dwelling on. 80 to one 80 to one keep that number in your head as you talk about this with your family and

friends. 80 to one That's the number of private sector jobs it takes to bankroll a single government job. 80 private sector jobs, 80 private sector taxpayers to afford one federal government worker to pay for salary, to pay for benefits, to pay for pensions. It takes 80 American private sector workers. So here we have a rebalancing already going on as Trump is adding. To the private sector economy the government sector is starting to shrink. And now the

president is saying I want to induce more investment in the United States. Look at what he's already done. President Trump just yesterday on Air Force one is saying we are now approaching. Seven trillion with a T, $7 trillion in new investment in the United States of America since he's been in office. He's made these

announcements. I know we were over $5 trillion. He's now saying $7 trillion. He always speaks in the biggest possible number he can. But even if it's just $5 trillion, you're looking at a massive infusion of international cash into the country right now. Yeah, and those of you who are calling out the shirt, I'm sorry, I just want to, not to get too distracted, but I'm wearing a NoWokeZone shirt today. My good buddy, Corey, he's got a boat called the NoWokeZone, and we ride it in the Potomac, and we drive lefties crazy in Washington, D. DC, fly a huge

Trump flag on the boat. It's phenomenal. So here you go. It's the no woke zone t-shirt, which, which is fun. I'm sorry that the, I'm getting covered up a little bit here. When you're, when you're looking at me in the live stream here. But we've got all this massive investment coming in massive, massive investment coming in and president Trump is talking about doing more of that.

He's even indicated, uh, yeah. So here you have untrue social. He says great jobs numbers far better than expected. It's already working hang tough. We can't lose. He said there you hear right from the president himself, hang tough. We can't lose. That's the, that's the steady fortitude we're looking for as we go forward through all of this

Yeah, and it's all caps. He's got three exclamation points on that bad boy. He went all in on that He's firing every bullet available to him on that iPhone keyboard. He's saying yes capital letters Exclamation points. It's a big deal The other thing here is he's saying look, you don't want to pay a tariff. This is what he's telling international companies right now. You don't want to pay tariffs. Come to America. There's no tariffs in America. We're not going to tariff your company. It's going to be free. You want free trade? Come right inside our shores. Come right here to this country, make jobs here, and you won't have a tariff.

The cost of your product will be easy, accessible, it'll be low, it'll be right here in the United States of America. And that is of course good for American industry, good for American jobs, good for American families, communities, and all of the other benefits that come along with it. So that's the message that the president is sending this.

Come to our country. And that's an invitation to industry. Forget his negotiations. I'll get to that in a moment. Forget his negotiations with any individual company in a country, rather any individual country. And you have countries who are now coming to president Trump with hat in hand saying, please, please spare us of these tariffs. Get rid of these tariffs, please. We beg of you. We want to make an offer. We want to make a deal with you. And that's great. That's

great that people are being induced to do that. I'm looking at Eric Trump, the president's son has posted in the last 24 hours about this. He says, you know, I've been watching my father. He didn't say his father in the tweet. He says, you know, I'm real Donald Trump. I've been watching him my whole life. And here's something I can tell you. Here's the one sure thing I can tell you. You don't want to be the last one to come to the negotiating table. If you're a country right now, you don't want to be the last one to

approach the negotiating table. You want to be the first one to approach the negotiating table. He said, I've seen it my whole life. I know exactly how this goes. So if you want to get in, if you want a good deal out of all of this, be the first come in. And so are there countries who are coming hat in hand? Yes, there are Canada, India, Israel, Vietnam, all of those countries right now. And in the lead up to the president's

announcement this week are negotiating for tariff relief. They're trying to figure out ways to impress President Trump enough to get the tariffs lifted on their countries. Additionally, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to come to the United States next week. President Trump just announced that yesterday. They've got a lot to talk about. There's obviously all sorts of chaos in the Middle East. That's of central concern to Benjamin Netanyahu. But also Netanyahu's country just got slapped

with tariffs. When he comes, my guess is these guys are going to have a pretty sincere conversation about how do we get rid of those? What can Israel do for America here? So the president reorienting the international conversation around How do we get America to? The lift up to take the stress off of us here So that's that's really good. Also the Brits are seeking a trade deal mean the EU broadly is trying to go after Trump Oh, we hate this. We're gonna treat we're gonna counter-tariff you. Okay, the Brits under their British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, they are reacting with what they call cool and calm heads right now.

And they're telling their business leaders that they're trying to get these tariffs lifted with a new trade deal with the United States. So good or bad? Well, that sounds exactly like what we want, actually. That's good. So, we're starting to see this. Yeah, ABC News headline right now, sweeping Trump tariffs draw dismay, calls for talks

from countries around the globe. Okay, let's talk. Let's talk. Now, you do have surrogates for the president who are going out, who are talking about this. That includes the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick. Here he is, cut to, listen to Howard Lutnick talk about what these countries are going to need to do if they want any relief whatsoever. The president is not going to back off.

So he's not going to back off of what he announced yesterday. He is not going to back off. He is not backing off. Nothing could change that. But countries can fix their tariffs, their non-tariff trade barriers, which are much, much rougher. That's why the story I was trying to tell you is that when we took cars from Korea in 2012, when I grew up, there was no Korean cars in America.

When we took cars from Korea, the deal was we could sell ag to Korea. That was the deal They wouldn't let McDonald's bring in french fries because they couldn't prove the origin of the french fry That is not a tariff that is called a non tariff trade barrier They take their taxes and they subsidize their steel industry or they subsidize their energy or they substitute or they give the tax Back to their car manufacturer. give the tax back to their car manufacturer. This stuff has got to stop. America's got to stop being exploited and you're going to see America prosper.

And then and only then will Donald Trump make a deal with each country when they've really, really changed their ways. Change your ways. That's what you need to do. Howard Lutnick is dwelling on something that our media really don't talk about that much is the non tariff trade

barriers these are the- the this is the blockade that's on American products this is what Canada does to us this is the absurdity with how they treat our agricultural products how they treat dairy they have quotas they're trying to stop

you. From getting access to their market the train stop American products. From arriving and being sold there and you're seeing it happen in all these countries across the planet China is particularly abusive. And you heard how

we're looking to talk about subsidies for steel. That is a pretty direct reference to China and the Chinese Communist Party and the way that they sell steel to the planet. They subsidize their steel industry so as to kill the American steel industry. The

Communist Party in China, through currency manipulation, through subsidies, they subsidize their entire steel industry, so that the steel can be sold at a cheaper rate, coming from China. And again, that's at the expense of the rest of the planet. Now, is that free trade? Is that a fair market? Are these countries who are acting in good faith with one another? Hell no, they're not. China's treating the rest of us like garbage, and in particular, it's hurting Americans. So it's time to fight back. And so this week, President Trump has imposed massive tariffs on China, and tariffs are

coming as of next week, even bigger tariffs. And as a result, this morning, China is attempting to escalate. The President Trump's announcement was, hey, we're putting a 34% tariff on China. This is a retaliatory tariff for China's behavior. Now China, like a bunch of commies is pretending that it was Trump who started the war. We have a lot of that going on in America, don't we? It's like when the left leads a war on you and then you fight back, they're like, why are you starting a culture war?

Why are you starting a war over? Whatever the issue is, we've, we've been talking about this. Why are you starting this war? We're not starting this war. We're going to end this war. That's the response. We didn't initiate this. You did.

So China today is pretending like, oh, it's Trump who started all of this. 34% tariff on us as if that was the starting point. Of course, it wasn't. There's been a long legacy of China. Hurting the United States stealing intellectual property subsidizing products hurting. American industry. With the help by the way of Washington

which has spent decades giving China all the assists in the world to got. Our own people. China now is saying that they're imposing a 34% retaliatory tariff as you just saw that headline on us. 34% on us so a lot of the market chaos

you're seeing this morning is born out of that. Now it's worth noting here that the discrepancy between how much money is flowing between our countries is pretty dramatic we have a massive trade deficit with China we buy way more

product than they buy from us so imposing a tariff on us. Well, it's kind of, it's a lot, it's a lot of like in real terms, there's a much smaller impact than us imposing a tariff on them, on them. So China this morning doing that now, president Trump said, this is a bad idea. Fellas, can you pull up Trump's truth social? idea. Fellas, can you pull up Trump's truth social? Trump is responding to China's efforts this morning. And he just posted a short while before we began this conversation this morning.

Quote, China played it wrong. He says, China played it wrong. There it is. They panicked the one thing they cannot afford to do so once again Really it comes down to do you trust the guy you elected? Do you trust him to manage this? President Trump is is moving forward with a lot of confidence right now. You can kind of see it there He's been saying if you listen to everything he's been saying and projecting over the last 24 hours, he's saying the markets are gonna do great.

Our country is gonna do great. We are going to be, I believe the word he keeps using is booming. Show the chat, fellas. Are people trusting Trump on this? This is the core question. Are people trusting Trump on this one? Because that really is the fundamental question. Yes, yes, go Trump. This is awesome. Long overdue.

Totally trust Trump. Love him. Damn right. Yes, we do. I trust him without a doubt. Okay. Yeah, some wrong moves. China showing up in the chat. Yeah, the reaction here seems crystal clear to me. You're on board. You're on board. Okay. Well, then that means you're you're like me. Settle the hell down, everybody. Relax. Calm down. We're gonna be good. We're gonna be good. And it's a good sign this morning as President Trump responding very positively to all this, he says, this is going to be good. And I do think, remember the first iteration of the new tariffs 10% they'll go

those go into place. On Saturday of this week so if you're listening to me live that means tomorrow. But Saturday of this week that's the first element 10% the rest all of the nation by nation tariffs those going to place next week Wednesday.

The window is closing. Right now for countries to forestall those tariffs if that's even achievable and in the meantime as those countries come on bended knee to president Trump to try and figure out a way out of this. The companies that are

in those countries if they would like to show how much. They want to get back into the American market. I have an international message today for those of our inner if those of you are among our international audience. Come to

America. Come here. Invest and don't bring a small investment bring a giant investment bring a trillion dollars into the United States bring if you if you can't afford trillion let's start with billion. Bring a billion president Trump wants to

proudly announce the announce your intention to bring that investment into the United States. He will consider it a victory. He'll make sure you get credit for doing it. And in the end, it'll be a win, win, win for everybody. It's a huge deal. It's a huge opportunity. And we've got a window right now. You want to start? Start now. There's no time like the present, baby. More in a moment, more of your reaction to all more reaction to all of this also got a great guest coming up you seen it before disaster strikes grocery store shelves can go absolutely empty overnight we seen that what time to prepare is during the aftermath by then it might already be too late smart americans trust. My Patriot Supply to help them prepare before crisis comes. And right now My Patriot Supply

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It's very distracting. I'm sorry, you're a little distracted by this, a little distracting to you as I move the mic around? I'm sorry, I'm an animated figure. I'm Italian, by the mic. It's very distracting. I'm sorry, you're a little distracted by this, a little distracting to you as I move the mic around. I'm sorry. I'm an animated figure. I'm Italian, by the way. Moving the mic around, unless it's making squeaks, if it makes a squeak, I don't want it. No, it's not squeaky. There's no squeaky here. There's no squeaky here. I'm just moving it around. You're a big boy. You can handle a mic movement. All right. So one other country, two other countries I want to mention, ING, which is a major international bank, ING is predicting right now that Japan and South Korea are on the verge of trying

to make a deal with Trump too, that Japan and South Korea want to make a deal. That's cool. That's very cool. So, everyone, most of these countries are saying, hey, what can we do? China, like the commies they are at the moment, saying, oh, we're going to impose new tariffs on America. Okay. Everybody else trying to play along as far as, for the most part, Japan, South Korea pivot to negotiating lower US tariffs. So they're doing what they can. And that could mean more investment from those countries in the United States of America.

That would be great. That would be really great. Also another big item in terms of the fiscal impact here, tax relief is moving forward right now in the United States Senate. So don't forget, this is only a small part, although maybe let's say a big part. The tariff component here is only one chunk of the president's economic policy. The other side of it is five and a half trillion dollars in tax cuts. That's right now moving through the United States Senate. Senate Republicans right now are poised

to deliver on that permanent tax relief for millions of Americans in a huge bill that's currently being negotiated in the Senate. The Senate just advanced the budget blueprint, including a permanent extension of those expiring tax cuts in 2017. So for the big conversations you're having with friends and family, there are so many important elements to this. If you're missing any one of them, you're missing the whole story. President Trump is reorienting the American economy about

around the international economy around what's good for America. He's actively engaged in negotiations with international corporations and countries in order to bring their products to our country inside of our

borders. And then additionally, they're currently arguing for a massive massive tax cut and making the current tax cut permanent. In order to. Maintain and grow American wealth. So all of that fits

together. And so again just keep that in mind here. As you. As you as you go forward with again friends and family who are concerned about all of this- and- I think I do once again to reiterate I do think that- that the stock market chaos you're seeing right now. concerned about all of this. And I think, I do once again, to reiterate, I do think that

the stock market chaos you're seeing right now is not going to endure because don't you get the feeling that President Trump wants to share a really good, huge story going into the midterms? The guy's not dumb at all. The guy's a lot smarter than almost everyone who criticizes him for sure. Going into the midterms, I'm expecting a great economic story to be told. And the fundamentals for it are already falling into place. If you get a jobs report two months in a row, like we just did, where private sector jobs are growing and government jobs are going down, I'll sign up for that every single month of the year.

That's precisely what I want. And so we're gonna keep looking at sort of the economic impact of all of this because it matters and whether or not we're headed in the right direction, we definitely are. In the economic fundamentals of our country, we're headed in the right direction right now. Before we get to our guest on economics, I do

want to share with you one other element here that's going on that I think is important. Some breaking news just overnight. President Trump is canning national security people inside of his administration right now, which that I take that as a good sign. He just fired the head of the national security agency and US cyber command. This guy's named general Timothy Hoff. And in case you're looking for ratification for that being a good idea, Mark Warner and other Democrats are freaking out about it this morning.

They're panicking. You can't fire him. He's one of the good ones. Oh, okay, good. I'm glad we fired this guy. He's one of the good ones. Oh, okay. Good. I'm glad we fired this guy. That's like the craziest. Thank you. Thank you very much for that for that inverse endorsement of this decision to fire the head

of the NSA and cyber command. So if you were looking to root out the deep state, start with Trump fires a top Intel official Democrats freak out about it. That means it's probably good for the United States of America so I'll take that and then yesterday president Trump also fired a number actually right now it's kind of an unknown

number but at least three national security council members. From you know who work in the White House national security council. So again an indication that whatever issues may exist in that orbit, they've detected them and they're canning people.

So I would say that's probably a good sign. That's probably a very good sign, especially when Mark Warner's freaking out. I'm all for it. If Mark Warner is against it, I'm 100% for it. Hey, again, before we get to our guest, I have to thank our great sponsors who make all of this programming free. Thank you for that. Are you a yo-yo dieter?

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How does all of this affect regular people who live in once thriving towns who wish those communities could come back to what they once were? For more on that, I want to bring in Daniel Turner now. Daniel's here with me. He is the president of Power of the Future. You're the president, right? Yeah, president's the executive director, however you want to call it. The head of Power of the Future, which by the way is fantastic advocates for flourishing

American energy. That's the point. Welcome, Daniel. Good to have you here, man. Thank you. Where's Dan Bongino? I thought I was going on his program. I know. Turner was booked months ago. We pull a fast one on him. Bongino is saving the country right now. He's busy with that. And by the way, if no one heard this earlier this week, since you brought it up, did you see that FBI recruitment is at record highs right now?

Amazing. In a month, in a month, record high levels of recruits, uh, or applications to, to join the FBI, which is what we need. And they're probably our people. They're probably Patriots who want law and order. It's exciting. A hundred percent. You're not, nobody, it's, again, let me just show you. This is the emphasis. No woke zone. The FBI is in no woke zone. Now, it's not like anybody's signing up for that going. I can't wait for the gender training that I'm going to get at the FBI. No, they're all in on the- Oh, the climate change awareness.

Yeah. I'm here to chase down criminals and make my country safe again. Yeah, that's great. It's a testament to what Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are doing and the fact that young men and women want to be part of this organization and they're applying and that's a sign in the right direction and jobs numbers are up. So there are glimmers of hope, tariffs, world freak out, but there are glimmers that we're heading in a good direction. Yes, first of all, again, this is not for this audience, but everybody we talk to who's hysterical about this, settle the hell down. Just relax, child. It's going to be okay. The other piece of this is what I just mentioned is the private sector is going up.

So we have two months in a row of private sector job growth, two months in a row of government sector jobs going down. And that hasn't happened since President Trump was President Trump back in his first administration. Yeah, there's a lot to investigate in the previous Biden administration and it could take forever to unpack how much corruption and fraud. But I think their jobs numbers are worthy of an investigation. I don't know if the Labor Department would ever do that because their jobs numbers, granted, we know that they didn't create 13 million jobs, we know that they were COVID jobs that were rehired, but it seems that most of their jobs number were just grants to municipalities to hire government workers. They said, we created 300,000 jobs. I don't think any of their jobs numbers are actually accurate. Yeah, no, there was a lot of

padding the numbers. And it was all government stuff. It was just crazy what was going on. the numbers. And it was all government stuff. It was just crazy what was going on. Let's talk about the energy industry. Because I know if fellas, if you could pull up Daniel Turner's X account, it would be really helpful because that pan right at the top of Turner's account is an image of a once great coal town, which has been destroyed. Tell us, tell us about that. I can't thank you enough for having me on because it was seven years ago today that I was standing in this small town in West Virginia. I was launching power of the future.

And this is a once great town. And I was recording the main street with a resident and he was pointing out that that used to be a florist and that was a little coffee shop and, oh, that was whatever, and they knew what this little town. The Obama administration launched their war on coal. Remember when he was running for president in 08 he said you know I'm not gonna make coal illegal but if you have a coal plant you're gonna go bankrupt and everyone applauded and said yay look at that. This is your video? And this is this is my little video and this is this great little town in West Virginia that there's just nothing there because the one employer of the town

was was shut down by the Obama administration because of climate emergencies and When everyone works for you know, there are lots of little towns like this across America and they're having their moment right now Yeah, whether it's coal whether it's steel whether it's manufacturing When everyone at the town worked at the mill or the plant, and they probably made good salaries, but then when that is shut down for whatever reason, now that town is bankrupt. And we leave these people there with mortgages that they can't afford. No one is moving there, so no one's selling their house. No one's buying the house.

There's no jobs, there's no income. We give them opioids because opioids are cheap and they pack a punch. So we say here's a little bit of fentanyl. We'll allow to sneak through to keep you all calm. We tell them, learn to code, get an OnlyFans page. Right. We tell them to drive for Uber and we leave these towns to fester in institutional poverty and suicide and domestic violence. And we've done this all across America for 30 years.

But it didn't have to be this way. No. It wasn't just like a natural market force that led to that. No. It was the government that did that. It was the government that did that. We still use coal.

We use more coal than we've ever used. And coal continues worldwide and in America to continue to increase because we don't just use it to make electricity. We use it to make steel. We use it to make the cement. Anything around us that we're looking at continue to increase because we don't just use it to make electricity. We use it to make steel. We use it to make the cement. Anything around us that we're looking at was probably at one point forged by coal or the

machinery that made it was forged by coal. So we need coal. And yet we have these people like Barack Obama, like Michael Bloomberg, like John Kerry, who say we're going to shut down coal. And really what we're doing is we're saying little towns like that in West Virginia, we're going to put you out of business because you know what's cheaper? Nine-year-old girls in Malaysia mining coal. They don't need helmets, they don't need OSHA, they don't need health insurance, they don't have sexual awareness and diversity training seminars.

It's really lucrative to mine in foreign countries because we can contaminate and pollute and destroy. So I want to recommend something I saw recently, maybe you've seen it too, Tucker Carlson just did an interview with on his podcast with a guy who built a diesel engine vehicle. He built it on his own. He's like an amazing car guy that goes a hundred miles to the gallon on diesel. Wow. So, I first like recommend the podcast, but the thing about what he was talking about is the way he did it was he just optimized the vehicle.

He got rid of kind of the drag coefficients. He made elements of it very light. He fine tuned the engine. He just worked really hard at making something that was great and very efficient at consuming already abundantly available energy. And it got me thinking, which is, of course, the point of that conversation and the one I want to bring up now, that these are things that we can do. Our industry can do this.

We can make better use of coal. We can make better use of diesel. We can make better use of diesel. We can make better use of unleaded gasoline. But instead, through artificial means, Washington has been crushing those energy industries, not trying to optimize our use of them, and instead forcing us into crappier, regressive energy forms that are hurting all of us. Yeah. And leaving these small towns across America absolutely decimated. There's a moment that you can find on social media. It's seven years old at this point. It is

when Joe burrow won the Heisman Trophy and he was giving his speech, right? LSU, a handsome young guy. He was the Heisman Trophy winner and he's giving his talk. And he's, he did cry and he talked about growing up in Southeast Ohio and the poverty that he grew up in and as he was giving them a huge football fan and I was watching in real time and as he was talking. I was looking up the number of coal mines that closed in his young life because at the time he was only twenty or twenty two or something and five or six mines in his area and each of them employed four thousand five thousand people and they probably made a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and then when you triple that trickle that down. Of course southeast Ohio where he grew up as poor but it wasn't poor when his family went there was

when his grandparents moved there it was once a thriving community and southeast Ohio or Johnstown Pennsylvania or across America we have these little towns. And the pro the anti tariff community has never explained to them why they're benefiting from this global trade.

Why is it good? They're telling us now Trump's tariffs are gonna kill us, but all across America, there are these small towns that I spend a lot of time in where people are truly decimated and no one's explained to them how they're better off. So what are you feeling this week? As President Trump has announced massive tariffs

all across the board, they're all gonna really be in place next week, Wednesday. How do you feel about this? What do you think happens next? Is it possible to recover these communities? It is, and it's gonna take a little while because the pendulum has been swinging in one direction from a uniparty effort for 30 some odd years,

and it will take a little while. And that's why we need continuity. We need for people to go out and vote because we can't lose the house. We can't lose in 2028. It's going to take us a while to flip this back. But again, if you're this company, you would rather make steel in China because you can use slave and child labor and you can import it cheap into America. You don't want to make steel in America because it costs you as a company more. And so we talk about our values, our great American

values and people like Bernie Sanders demand maternity and paternity leave and healthcare. But what we've done is we created a system that all of our values we hold up here in America and we send them to China where we employ children. But energy is at the core of all of this what you're talking about. So why is it expensive to make steel in America? It's expensive because energy is expensive. In order to smelt steel you need massive amounts of energy and that energy if it's expensive makes it cost prohibitive to buy U.S. steel. Yeah. This is it's all obviously connected. And you need to wear a helmet and goggles and safety gloves

But not if you do that in Indonesia, right? Not if you do that in the third world There's no OSHA inspector going and saying wait a second Vince How come you're not wearing your protective gear when you're doing this because what do we care? That's a bunch of Malaysians. So we allow them to abuse humans. We allow them to abuse the planet. We allow them to pollute water and soil and air. And we say, this is global trade. And it's not. It's such a damn lie. It's not global trade.

It is outsourcing all the things that corporations in America just don't want to have to pay for anymore. Yes. And then there are so many options for energy. So many options for energy. So these data centers, you know, that everyone keeps saying, like, so every community that I'm aware of, especially at least in Virginia, this is definitely happening, but I think it's happening all over the country.

Every so often, some companies like we're going to build a data center in your community. And then people freak out because the grid is going to be overloaded. They've got a data center here. How are we going to manage that? The power consumption that's required by these massive server farms is immense in order to keep the computers cool. So everybody gets into these massive debates, but every time that happens, it's like, wait, what? First of all, why aren't we upgrading our grid? Why aren't we tapping into our abundant, God-given reserves of power, why aren't we using nuclear at the same time to, which is abundant, very clean energy,

that is we've gotten better and better at using every single year with that technology, especially even at the data centers. You know they have micro nuclear reactors you can use. You can make a small nuclear reactor that literally power the entire data center on its own. The stupidity of our country is that it's government bureaucrats that get in the way

of all of that. Yeah. Look at Microsoft that was building this data center in Pennsylvania, and they worked with the governor to reopen one of the reactors at Three Mile Island. Why? Because they want reliable nuclear power for their data center. Now, I know Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft anymore, but Bill Gates is Microsoft and he runs around the world telling us that we need to use wind and solar.

Yeah. But when it came to their data center, they're like, we don't want wind and solar. We're not going to build an offshore wind farm. We want nuclear power. And I just think that is very telling. Like Microsoft could have said, we're gonna lease 50,000 acres of farmland and put up wind turbines. They're like, hell no, we're not. We're building a nuclear reactor is what we're doing. It's almost like a cruel joke where they're trying to see how much they can abuse you

and then you'll accept it as some sort of moral good. Wind power? Wind power. We used to use windmills in order to grind down grain. Like, it's like, what? That's regressive. Wind power powered the transatlantic slave trade. Wind power, you've gotta be joking.

Everything the left advances is regressive to the point that I'm seeing in our chat today, people keep pointing out it's managed decline. Hell yeah it is. It's managed decline. This is hurting our country. A great moment from the Biden administration that for me encapsulates their

energy agenda and you can't even call it an agenda. There wasn't a policy it was just insanity. But it was August of twenty twenty two Joe Biden was outside of Boston they had torn down an old coal power plant and of course it was hot they probably

put him in a powder blue shirt intentionally so we get some pit stains and look all sweaty climate change and he said we tore down this dirty coal plant and we're going to build on this very spot and offshore wind no they didn't

they never built it because it got too expensive no one got the permitting through and now they're not going to build it so you know what they did they tore down a perfectly functioning clean coal plant and they just left it destroyed. Now they've lost the jobs, they've lost the tax revenue, they've lost the grid reliability and they pat themselves on the back and they give each other and this is where my anger gets insane. They give

each other awards right like congratulations guys you tore down that viable coal plant outside of Boston. Ask Governor Healy how's your your utility grid going? What are the prices for Massachusetts folks for your their utility? They're up 35% from year over year. So how are things going? But we're taking down what's working. Like you said it is totally regressive. We're punishing ourselves for this idea that we're going to have a cleaner tomorrow. Yeah. It's just it's really awful. Okay, so last thing, Trump is imposing tariffs in other countries. And I kind of think about what's happening domestically, what's happening

in our own country. So we tax people death, we overregulate them to death, we tell them they're not allowed to use technologies that are actually good for them. We lock them up inside their own homes, we leave the grid to be destroyed. Haven't we just been terrifying our own people? Yes, 100%. And life is very expensive. And that's that middle America class, the Trump voter class, who used to be Bernie bros also, by the way. That's the frustrating thing about Washington, DC. A lot of what President Trump is doing, Pelosi is on record supporting,

Schumer is on record supporting. Now they were supporting it in the 80s and 90s because they were trying to be anti-Reagan, anti-capitalist. But there's a lot of Americans, especially the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat, the old Bernie Sanders wing, that says, we need these tariffs to protect American jobs. They're all gone now because Trump did it.

So therefore they don't agree with it anymore. It's the man's got a backbone of steel because he's getting attacked from every single angle. But the American people, and especially those rural jobs, are like, we finally have a champion. I watched still Billie Eilish with my mom last weekend. She wanted that is who Trump is fighting for. Those beaten up small towns and the heart blood that have been absolutely decimated and forgotten.

And that's why he chose JD Vance because he means it. He really does. Daniel Turner, you mean it. Thank you. Good to see you, man. That's the great Daniel Turner from Power of the Future. Before we go, I want to mock a lefty who looks like a human Q-tip. Ellie Mistel.

You ever heard of this guy? Ellie Mistel, he's an MSNBC regular. He's an absurd human being. He is truly maximally absurd. He's on Morning Joe all the time and he's also apparently got a new book out. Presumably he can write maybe or somebody else wrote it for him. Let me share some clips for you. This is Ellie Mistel doing the rounds. He thinks Trump is going to deport him for his dumb opinions, if only. Take a look. Cut one. Here's Ellie Mistel. We live in a country where you can get snatched up off the street for writing an article in the newspaper.

And as a person who writes articles in newspapers, this is something that has really worried me and really changed and affected how I think about my job and my life. And we can say, well, we happen to green card holders. Yeah, now so far, how long before it happens? That's so funny. Look at the comb stuck in his hair. Is that a is that like a black power fist on the end of his comb? I think. What the hell is going going on does he know that he has something in his hair is he I think he does I think it's for the effect I that is I think by the way

that is the single worst outfit I've ever seen anybody wear to any any media appearance whatsoever but that's Ellie Mistel who had a big breakfast and then went into the Breakfast Club. And you guys zooming in on the comb? Is that what you're doing for me? Let me see. So is that, what is that thing? Confirmed? There's a comb stuck in his hair. That's what we know. I don't know what the end of it is, but it's ridiculous. That's the summary here. Ellie Mistel, thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. I don't need to see any more of that head. That's ridiculous. That's the summary here. Ellie Mistel, thank you gentlemen. I appreciate it. I don't need to see any more of that head.

That's ridiculous. That guy looked like he stuck his finger in a power socket before he got to the interview. Ellie Mistel, I've got another one for you. He said that he doesn't wanna deport anybody, any MS-13 guys to El Salvador. Here's cut four because he thinks keeping them here would be better for America.

Even if you tell me and you prove that they're gang members, I'm not so sure that I'm okay with them being sent off to be tortured in a foreign country, but I'll leave that aside. He doesn't want to send them away. Even if you tell me that they're gang members, they should stay here. That's how you know that he's a real deal Marxist, by the way. That's how you know he's all in on being an agent of chaos. And they have him on television. He's Harvard educated, just to be really clear, in case you're wondering where he got all these wonderful ideas.

He went to Harvard, and so he goes on television with his comb still stuck in his hair and tells people that, you know what we need to do? We need to keep MS-13 people here in our country. That is a man who is not interested in the well-being of this country at all. That's a man who hates the country that he lives in. In fact, here's one more for you from this well maybe let's do two more. Ellie Mistel, this is cut five. Ellie Mistel says we need to eliminate all voter registration laws in the United States of America to open up fraud to everyone. Look.

I wanna eliminate every single voter registration law. All of them. All of them in every state are bad, right? That's different from voter eligibility. If you're eligible to vote, you should just be able to rock up to the polls and vote. So we could just get rid of all of them. We could just get rid of all of them.

And the people will say like, oh, well, we can't do that because of voter fraud, right? Well, rid of all of them. We could just get rid of all of them. And the people will say like, oh, well, we can't do that because of voter fraud, right? Well, first of all, and I know this is gonna be hard for some listeners who spend a lot of time listening to Republican lies, but voter fraud does not exist. I love how you broke that down in the book,

it's found, please. Voter fraud just doesn't exist. It's not a real thing. We shouldn't make laws based on protecting us from things that don't exist because their goal is not to secure elections because again voter fraud doesn't exist. Their goal is to restrict people from voting. Okay so that guy is lying his ass off to you. Voter fraud absolutely exists and in fact his party is infamous for its voter fraud both past and present. Tammany Hall in New York City, you don't if we want to go back away as you can look at Tammany Hall,

the Democrat controlled New York City at the turn of the last century, everything about their operation was vote hustling, vote stealing, vote fraud. That's what they were up to. Chicago has been defined by voter fraud with Democrats in charge for all of its storied history. Stuffing ballot boxes is a feature, not a bug, of the Democrat party's entire history. So when Ellie Mistel sits there and he says, there's no voter fraud, there's no voter fraud. That's a guy who is guilty. That's a guy who's aware how guilty his party actually is insisting that there's no voter fraud. It's preposterous to say that. As a statistical matter, it's preposterous to say that there's no voter fraud. So the guy's an absurdity, clearly a cartoon character, but he keeps being welcomed on all these shows. And I just, for whatever reason, I guess it's because he's on book tour I've been seeing all these clips

running around and I said this guy deserves some mockery so let's of course let's let's give him some mockery here's another one cut six Ellie Mistel saying the United in case you're wondering if he doesn't like this country or not the United States Constitution in his view is garbage and needs to be torn up. South Africa got over apartheid. Did they just go back to their Afrikaner racist constitution and be like, oh, we just need a couple of amendments. We just need a couple of changes here to make it work. No, they threw the whole thing out

and started again this time asking everybody. This time having a completely new delegation of all of the people of South Africa, not just the white folks, but not no white folks. And they came up with a new constitution. One of the reasons why the South African constitution is generally thought of as one of the best constitutions in the world and ours continues to be a piece of crap. Okay.

So he wants to throw out the constitution and just listen to the stupidity of this. He's getting, he wants to get rid of the civil rights amendments He wants to get rid of the 13th amendment which abolishes slavery is like throw it all out Let's do something new and then he points you to the South African Constitution now the Breakfast Club Probably wasn't aware of why he might be referring to the South African Constitution, but perhaps he learned this when he went to Harvard the South African Constitution, but perhaps he learned this when he went to Harvard. The South African Constitution, to be very clear, codifies inside of its text racial discrimination. You heard me correctly. The South African Constitution endorses inside of its text discrimination on the basis of race. That's what that clown with the gigantic hair wants.

He wants discrimination on the basis of race because it's built into the South African Constitution. You might say to yourself, well, how does that work? How is that manifesting itself in South Africa? Let's see. Right now, the South African government is taking land from people because of the color of their skin at this very moment.

And if you were to say, if you were a South African farmer who has your land being taken, and you were to say, well, wait a second, this seems unconstitutional, that you would steal my land and give me nothing for it, they would say, I'm sorry, it's actually part of our constitution that we can steal your land and give you nothing for it

on the basis of the color of your skin. The farmer is white and therefore he is bad and therefore his land can be taken in South Africa. So when this goober goes on the Breakfast Club to explain his awesome theories about what we need to do in the United States of America, his awesome theory is we need to codify racial prejudice into the United States Constitution. This is what he wants to do. This is precisely what he wants to do. And he looks at South Africa as the model because he says we need good racial discrimination. This is the thinking. This is the left. This is the Marxist nature of the left. They want they tell you that racial discrimination is good in certain circumstances, that segregation

itself is good. They will call it racial affinity groups. We should have black graduation at Harvard. We should have just a graduation for black people. I'm sorry. You're graduating from Harvard. Why would you have a racially segregated graduation? This is supposed to be a school of high minded principles, isn't it? Harvard Law School, where you're supposed to learn what the law is, and the Constitution is, by the way. And they want to have racially segregated graduations? It's because the left believes sincerely in segregation, racial discrimination, and using those as tools for power.

That's what they believe in. And this guy is expressing it in so many dumb words, in so many dumb appearances, on so many, at so many dumb events. Yeah, remember that? Harvard University offers segregated graduation ceremonies based on race, class, and sexuality. Segregated ceremonies? So we're supposed to dwell on our immutable characteristics. That's the key. And then we're supposed to judge other people for their immutable

characteristics. There was a key. And then we're supposed to judge other people for their immutable characteristics. There was a word for that until very recently. What was the word for that? Oh, it's racist. It's explicitly racist to do that. And, you know, that's the world we live in. One more for the Wokeys out there. No Woke zone today, baby.

You see the poor young woman who is in USA, she's a member of USA Fencing. So fencing, of course, is sword fighting. And there was a young woman who was pit recently, a couple days ago, against a man. She had to sword fight a dude. And she decided, I'm not interested in that so she took a knee in order to express that there is no way that she's fighting a dude while fencing. There's some video for you here of this woman Redmond Solovins is the name of the woman or to be Redmond Solomon is the dude Redmond Solomon is the dude. Redmond Sullivan is the dude. His female opponent

was just ejected at a USA fencing event at the University of Maryland. Fellas, do you have that video? Let me see if we can put this up on the screen. This is cut seven. Here's the female fencer. She starts on guard and then she drops to her knee and says, I'm not doing this. I'm not fighting a dude. And you can watch the dude approaches her or the first the judge approaches her. He goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? And presumably she's saying, I'm not fighting a dude. So this coward judge decides to walk off to go have some sort of conference

with whoever it is who tells him what to do. And then the dude with the long hair comes walking up and goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? And she has to tell him again, I'm not fighting a dude. There's no reason a dude should be in this. I'm supposed to be fighting women here. And he's like, come again. He leans over. He's like, are you serious? What's happening? And she's like, again, you're a dude. I'm not fighting you. You're not supposed to be part of this sport. You are cheating in this sport.

And so that's where we are. Now, what is USA Fencing saying all about saying about all of this? Well, USA Fencing has released a ludicrous statement, a ludicrous statement about all of this. They say USA Fencing remains committed to fostering an inclusive, respectful community for everyone in our sport. You can see where this is going already. We believe in the

principle of creating safe communities where all athletes and community members have a place. While we understand there are a range of perspectives USA fencing will continue to engage in respectful research based

dialogue and review as policy evolves. In the Olympic and Paralympic movement as well as domestic law hate speech or targeted hate of any kind is not acceptable online or in person. Let's keep the conversation respectful and the strip welcoming to all the strip being where they fight. So in summary, a woman faces a man in a sword fighting contest.

The woman says, we're not doing that. I'm going to take a knee here and reject and object to this protest. They disqualify her from the entire tournament. They black card her. And then USA Fencing releases a statement saying she's the problem. She's hateful. She's hateful, she's not tolerant, we're welcoming to everyone, including cheating men in sword fighting. That's where we are.

And so just so we're clear, nobody is on their side. The whole internet right now is attacking, attacking USA fencing, which they deserve big time. I am so grateful for you as always. What a, what another fun week. And please join me again on Monday. It's going to be a huge show coming up next on rumble is Crowder. I will be joining Crowder on that show. So stay tuned for that.

We got a busy day. I hope you have a great weekend.