The Dan Bongino Show - Horrific Video Out Of Florida (Ep. 2490)

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

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All America all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Why have a special surprise for you today? We've got some exclusive audio Andrew's been working on. It's amazing. You're never going to believe we've got our hands on this. Andrew has been working on this feverishly for the last half an hour. You're going to love this.

Only we have it. Only we have it. So how many times are we going to go through this? with the Donald Trump playbook versus the media playbook. How many times? What did I tell you all yesterday? I'm not talking to the Bongino Army.

I love you guys. You already know where I'm going with this. But to my haters, it's okay, you're welcome here too. It's okay. I told you yesterday, correct, with all the, I cannot believe he's got to wipe out Iran. He's going to nuke the whole place. It's going to blow up.

It's going to separate. He's going to destroy it. It's going to be a parking lot. Trump is crazy. They were saying he's nuts. He's totally lost it. And do you remember this conversation yesterday? I hope you do.

Many of you were here. I said, have you not seen this a couple thousand times from Donald Trump? What was the name of this book? Wasn't it called like The Art of the Deal? You know, you could actually read the book. If you'd like to see how Donald Trump negotiates a deal, you could read the book he wrote Justin about the deal. Where he actually says this stuff.

He takes this maximalist position. He then gets a concession where we're better than the baseline and where he started. He's only done it a thousand times. The North Koreans, Venezuela, tariffs. The list goes on and on and on. So I'm going to go into this in the beginning of the show, the Trump playbook versus the media playbook. And you're going to see again how all of the.

the people who lost their minds yesterday about Trump's true social post about wiping out Iran, wasted your time if you lost your mind over it, scratching at your face. I can't believe it. He's going to nuke Iran. World War III again. A lot of these commentators have predicted effectively 422 out of the last two world wars. It's incredible. All right. Today's show brought to you by All Family Pharmacy. Do not wait until you're sick. This is important. Stay prepared with essential medications on hand in your house,

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We'll see if it lasts or not, but the concessions on that with the straight opening up. And this is pretty profound stuff. So Andrew's working really hard to clean this up. Justin, play that if you were. This is flaming dragon. Okay. Flaming dragon. Fuck face.

First, take a big step back and literally... Fuck your own face! Kind of pan-Pacific bullshit power play you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory. So whatever you think and you better think again. Otherwise, I'm going to have to head down there and I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you. You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations

and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker. I will massacre you. I will fuck you up! Wow. How did you guys get that? Andrew, he's got better sources than me. I worked in administration. I don't even know people.

I don't know how that leaked out. Sorry, guys. This is never meant to be like the comedy show. However, that was rolling around on X this morning. That is a clip, of course. Look at the Muttlies. Everybody's breaking the Muttley rolling out one. We got six Muttlies, 10 Muttlies.

That's not even a thing. Chat, blow it up with the Muttlies. We love it. had great, we love you, Joe, up there. Mutley, the Mutley man. Yeah, that's probably, that's probably what it did sound like. However, that was Tropical Thunder, the greatest movie cameo of all time by Tom Cruise.

Thank you guys for putting that together. But on a serious note, even though I hate when people say that, how many times are we going to go through this? Let me lay out for you very simply. Guys, ladies, please record digitally, screen grab. I don't really care. MAGA Kitty, we love you, always putting out my clips, you're fantastic. Everyone, please save this, okay, bookmark this.

Whether you like my show or not, because it's not about me, it's about stopping you from having a 30-point blood pressure spike and having a heart attack. Every time Donald Trump takes a maximalist position and puts something out on true social, you think sounds crazy. Here's how this is going to go, okay? Everybody ready? Jasmine, you taking notes? Okay, good.

Here's Trump. I will negotiate with you on. X. X could be tariffs, could be the Iranians, could be the nuclear payload in Iran. I will negotiate on this thing. I will come into it with an open mind. He even talks about Kim Jong-un, a tyrant and a scumbag. He talks about Kim Jong-un, and he doesn't shit on him in public. He says, listen, we've got a good relationship because he doesn't want to get into a nuclear war. So he will give you, even if you are a tier one scumbag, the benefit of the doubt or negotiations. Have you or have you not seen this in the past, folks?

He does it with Putin. And the media pretends to be horrified. Do they not? I can't believe. He likes Kim Jong-un. He doesn't like Kim Jong-un. He called him Little Rockin Man and told him his nuclear button was bigger than him. Did you miss that dipshits out there in the media?

He doesn't like Kim Jong-un. It's a negotiation tactic. Do you even pay attention? If he liked Vladimir Putin, he wouldn't be providing weapons to Ukraine. It's a negotiating tactic. Pay attention. Try to keep up media dip wads. Okay?

Step one. Negotiate even with bad people because the world, shockingly, since the sarcasm is full of bad people. I'm not going to negotiate with him. He's a bad guy. It doesn't work that way. Step two. If I do not get what I want, escalate.

If I have to escalate quickly, I will. This is what Donald Trump does. He wrote about it in the book. Little Rocket Man, I've got my nuclear button. Vladimir Putin better be really careful about what's going to happen next. We'll take out Moscow. Escalate quickly. Rattle your enemy by escalating quickly because it was unpardoned.

that you were going to do that. They didn't expect that. What did Mike Tyson say once? What's the best punch in the world? Tell me in the chat. The one you never saw coming. And you can never see which direction Trump's punching from. You expected a jab.

He kicks you in the balls. You expect to be kicked in the nuts. He bites your ear off. He just is unpredictable. Negotiate in good faith. You don't get what you want. Escalate. Unpredictably, maybe intentionally,

chaotically, intentionally, chaotically, yes, you know exactly what I mean. Third, stake out a maximalist position. We're going to wipe out Iranian civilization. And then fourth. Settle where we did this morning

in a baseline position better than where you started in the first place. No sane actor. Even people who I think dispute strongly Donald Trump's decision to engage in this war theater in Iran with our weaponry, no sane person can tell you if you were to put a beer in them when they're not lying for clicks that we are not in a better position with the Iranians than we were before we started. Level one through six of the Iranian theocracy has been taken out.

Their navies at the bottom of the sea. Their ballistic missile capability is still pretty robust, but it's been damaged significantly. their drone factories, their leadership can't even talk. The Basij Militia doesn't even know how to communicate before getting whacked. There's no question we're in a better spot. Negotiate, escalate, maximalist position, resettle on an elevated baseline. Are you writing this down media people?

I'm trying to help you. You are going to wake up and have a coronary. You're going to have a TIA or a full-blown stroke if you keep doing this. World War III, World War III. How many World War III? Do you guys know how numbers work? Justin, how many World Wars have there been? Two. Wow, you're pretty good at history.

We're at like World War 62 with these people. There is yet to be a World War III. The almost World War III that happened happened under Biden when Russia invaded Ukraine. Did you miss that? Negotiate, escalate, maximalist position, reset. at a better baseline. Okay? You write that down. Here's the media thing. The media playbook. So Trump playbook, media playbook. Trump isn't doing anything. Think about when the Iranians

were protesting in the street. You're like, what was that like 10 years ago? No, it was like three, four months ago. The Iranians were protesting in the street. And what was the media that hates Trump saying? Trump isn't doing anything. I cannot believe he is leaving these people hanging them out to dry the Iranians. You remember that? You go look it up on X. You can see some of their posts. This guy's a fake chicken, coward, not doing anything for the Iranians.

You can go look. They said this. So media playbook, step one, Trump isn't doing anything. Then Trump does something, tweets out or puts out on truth, how he's going to wipe out Iranian civilization. And the media responds, this mother is totally crazy.

What a lunatic. This dude is insane. Step one, Trump doesn't do anything. He's a coward. Step two, Trump does something. And what he does is crazy. This guy's a lunatic. World War III, World War 5, World War 7.

What is it? Is he doing it? He's not supposed to do something or he's going to do something? What is it? Then step three, Trump gets a deal like he did last night. deal going to work? I don't think there's high expectations, but he's giving him a shot. Trump gets a deal. And what do they go with next? Toco, Trump always chickens out. I thought 10 minutes ago he was crazy and he did too much. What it was?

Which one is it? I cannot believe. As my mother-in-law would say, I cannot believe. I can't believe. He bombed Iranian bridges. He's threatening civilian infrastructure, which, by the way, is being used for military purposes. I can't believe he took out level one through six of the Iranian Theocracy. So how did he chicken out? I don't understand. Chicken out, didn't chicken.

How do you go? Now, I get it. I get it. I got our good friend Vince Cole and Asa. I'll talk to him about this too. I get it. You may say, Dan, you're correct. They're not consistent at all.

Folks, it's deliberate. The media wants to play stupid. There are dumb people in it. You got the Joy Reeds out there, I get it. But there are people out there in the media, I promise you, who are not stupid. They know what they're saying is bullshit. And they do it anyway. Trump isn't doing anything.

Trump does something and he's crazy. And then Trump gets a deal and then he chickened out. Does any of that makes sense? Here's a clip of Trace Gallagher on Fox. It actually starts with, I think it's Aaron Burnett at CNN, but he's covering it. And Trace, this is just about 30 seconds, that's it. But brings up this exact point. This can't either you, Trump is crazy and is negotiating style.

Or Trump always chickens out when he gets a deal. Like you can't have it both ways. Which one is it? You were shitting on him the other day for taking this maximalist position on truth that he was going to wipe out Iran. And then when he didn't wipe out, he ran. You were complaining that he chickened out. which freaking story is true.

Remember, the media always tells you a story, but they never tell you the story. Those aren't the same things. Check this out. There will be some who will call it, you know, Taco. Trump always chickens out, which is making way too light of it, but it is also a truth, which is that he makes giant threats that he does not follow through on.

So it's one thing for everyone to say, well, nobody wanted him to do this. And it's another to say that the word of the president of the United States is now something that people do not think that they can take at his word, that they expect it to be just a quick trading opportunity every single time. Have they ever heard of negotiation he makes giant threats and they condemn him for those giant threats? And then when he backs him, oh, see, he didn't follow through on the giant threat. Make up your minds, people. I don't know any other way to say it. Trace just summed

it up in 35 seconds in the clip. You're mad at him for making a threat that led to a concession and now you're calling him a chicken because the threat led to a concession when you were going crazy about the concession saying we're afraid he's not chicken and may act out the concession. If your head is spinning right now, it's supposed to. Rewind the tape, go back 15 seconds, and listen to what I said in slow motion media people. Just two days ago, the Iranians were saying, a straight will never be the same, never open up, we're done, we own.

And now all of a sudden, it's not fully open, let's not be dramatic. but there's traffic moving through again. You're telling me the Iranians didn't concede. Am I under any illusions, by the way, that the Iranian demands and some of it that CNN stuff was a lot of garbage. However, am I under any illusions the Iranians are just giving up and the Iranian mullahs are going to just forfeit over 400 kilos

of enriched nuclear material? I'm not. We may have to go back in there, or there may be more pressure, and there may be more maximalist threats. The bottom line to this whole thing is we have reset at a new baseline that is far better than where we started. And you pretending that's not the truth just makes you look like an asshole. I'm being honest and candid with you about all of this.

I love the president. He's been a great friend of me. He was a great leader. And he was a tremendous manager, too, to work for. He was. But we have to be candid. The Iranians are insane. They're really crazy.

and there's a good possibility that the next two weeks they can continue to lob missiles all around the region there's a good chance they could try to i doubt it but they could try to hide their nuclear material that'd be a big mistake we'd probably see most of it it's fairly candid i think the trump administration saying the same thing but for the anti-trump crowd out there and that includes by the way liberals media people and and duma republicans always predicting the worst. Can you just be honest with your own audience and say, hey, listen, we are in a better place right now.

I think right now is probably a good time for an exit plan. If we need one final strike to put our point across, that's fine. But there's no doubt we're at a better spot. And it should say something to you as well that China, the CCP,

declared enemies of the United States. They may put on a good face, but Everybody knows what they're up to. We're the ones involved in pressuring Iran to cut a deal, too. Why would China, who hates us, pressure Iran to cut a deal? Because they're getting their asses kicked. Who? The Iranians?

Yeah, but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about China. What do you mean China's getting their asses kicked? Folks, who do you think provided Iran with a lot of this military detection technology that failed miserably? China. they have been humiliated on the international and global stage as a reliable military industrial partner. They get their oil, a good portion of it from that region.

We don't. We get a small sliver of it. If we lost and Trump, Taco or this other bullshit, if he lost, why is China telling Iranians, man, please make a deal? Does that sound like a loss to you? Are you crazy? And by the way, that tariff post he put out this morning about if you support the Iranian military machine, instant tariffs, what did I say 100% just came out before it came on the air?

That was directed to China because why? Trump, watch him from, Justin, watch him freak out again. You believe it. A hundred percent terror. I can't believe. Guys, please rewind the show. Please go back and rewind. negotiate, escalate, maximalist position, settle at a new baseline.

One more time for the idiots in the media. Negotiate, escalate, maximalist position, settle at a new baseline. You got it? You need me to write it down on Dan Boggino Show letterhead? We don't actually have that. But if we had some, folks, their energy infrastructure is everything, the Iranians. But it's not just everything to the Iranians. it's what funds their military theocracy and their terror regime.

It is also everything to China and regional partners in the area who get a lot of their oil to power their economies from that region. Trump has the ultimate, pun intended, Trump card. If he takes out Carg Island and their energy infrastructure, the Iranians, China, and all of those oil partners on the Iranian side that are doing business when I ran for oil are screwed. I'm going to take a quick break, and I'm going to show you what I mean on the other side of this break

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Check it out. Calshy.com slash Bonino. So here's a quick clip by Trey Yensters done some incredible reporting for Fox News. Over there, discussing exactly the Iranian and energy problem they have now. The Iranian energy problem is a money problem for Iran if they can't sell their oil. They don't have anything else. What do you think they have a vibrant entertainment market, a vibrant software business? They have zero. That is there. That is their only economic key to survival and other countries that need that Iranian oil. This is a huge Trump card. Check this out.

A senior Israeli defense official telling me just now, the Islamic regime's greatest vulnerability is energy. They describe the energy system in Iran as the Achilles heel for the Islamic Republic because roughly 50 percent of Iran's GDP is based on their energy program. And this is part of the reason that the president is focusing his threats on the energy infrastructure inside of Iran. The president understands that when it comes to the Iranian regime, the two things that are keeping this regime afloat are their energy infrastructure that is used to funnel money to the IRGC and the weapons that are currently being used against U.S. forces. and allies across the region and the oil infrastructure.

And as Fox can confirm overnight, dozens of U.S. strikes targeted Karg Island where 90% of Iran's oil exports are located. This gives you a sense that the United States is looking once again to send a final message to the Iranian regime. The president on true social just moments ago sending a final message to the Iranian regime.

Yeah, he sure has. And certainly we're talking about an escalation of significance here. And as you R.W says in the chat, Dan, try and explain logic to liberals may be a waste of time. Folks in the, yeah, RW, I appreciate your comments, but you're right and wrong. Yes, explaining logic to people who choose to be stupid on purpose, which is sadly a good portion of the liberal progressive movement. They choose to be dumb.

They don't want to be smarter. They don't want to be informed. They're not interested. They could just go to an AI app and check. the data and find out they're wrong. Thank you. There we go. Good, good call. However, here's where you're wrong. The reason it's not a waste of time. And the P1s, you know this. I learned this running for office in a deep blue state. I mean a deep blue state. When you're arguing or debating with liberals and you make principled

fact-based choices, there's always a third party listening. It's that person, not the liberal, you're debating for. That's what this is about. There are impressionable third parties out there who don't want to be stupid. I promise you a good portion. That's why this audience has stayed consistently large over 10 years. I'm convinced because we don't get into current things and bullshit. But thank you for the comment. You're right, half right.

Folks, this is who we're dealing with, by the way. When the left was busy yesterday, again, the intentionally stupid left, pretending Donald Trump was guilty of a war crime. that didn't even happen, it was a true social post, and wouldn't have been a war crime to begin with, attacking infrastructure used for military purposes is not a war crime. It's not a, it's, you just made that up.

You know what is a war crime? Using civilian human shields at military targets to get them killed. Well, who did that? The United States, I mean, you know, the media said Donald Trump was guilty of war crimes. No, the Iranians. there was an actual war crime

but his video of it by the way an Iranian state media you can look yourself this is why I'm telling you like the left wing media and liberals RW you're right you are correct about this that is a waste of time

they want to be stupid they could have just played this video and been like hey guys Donald Trump is not really committing a war crime keep in mind he didn't even do it what he said was going to happen it may but attacking infrastructure used for military

purposes is not even, it's a war tactic. It's not even close to a war crime. They could have pointed this out, but they chose not to because they want to be stupid. They revel in stupidity. It's like pigs love slop. Why do they love slop? I don't know. It feels good. Like stupid, they revel in stupid because stupid just feels good. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I am so sick of this loser in Congress. This guy is an absolute zero. Roe Kana is a Democrat fraud fake phony. Even if

you're a Democrat, I'm telling you this guy is a fraud. He was a huge censorship guy right around J6. Enormous. Go look it up. Wanted everybody censored. And then when he realized that the

winds were turning on censorship, all of a sudden he pretended to be some Democrat free speech warrior. This guy is full of shit. He's doing some media tour. He got wrecked yesterday by Martha McCallum, by the way, just annihilated on her show. He looked like a moron. Here he is on CNBC, just spouting total bullshit.

Rokana knows the Iranians still have nuclear material. He knows that. But he starts trying to credit Obama for the failed JCPOA, the plan of action, the bullshit Iran deal. He's just lying about, 97,000. Really? I don't care if it's 1% in a nuclear suitcase headed to the border in the United States. That's kind of a big deal, no? What's that line from the movie, I was at the sum of all fears? I'm not concerned with someone who has a thousand nuclear weapons. I'm concerned with someone who only has one.

You get at the point? Even CNBC's like, uh, Ro, you believe the Iranians? Like, they lie about everything. He doesn't believe the Iranians. He chooses to be stupid. Check this out. The enriched uranium is still buried underneath. We haven't gotten rid of it. Obama had gotten rid of 97% of that enriched uranium. But we don't know exactly what they were telling. Well, we know they weren't telling us the truth. We already know that from the missiles that they've launched.

We know that from other things that basically they've been lying all along. Folks, this is CNBC, okay? It's not Fox News. The CNBC host there is not some diehard conservative. Even she's trying to tell this imbecile. and R.W, you're right, like arguing with this moron who chooses to be a liar and stupid is a waste of time. But the third parties watching this, the Iranians did not get rid of their nuclear material. They did not. Yes, Midnight Hammer destroyed their facilities.

But the material is still out there. He knows that. He chooses to be stupid publicly. They've lied about everything. their nuclear program, their ballistic missiles. He chooses to be stupid, but you don't. You don't. You wouldn't be here. It's frustrating.

It really is having to constantly course correct, these idiots. And while fully understanding, they could just do this themselves. We have this healthy, vibrant, robust internet. We didn't have when I was growing up. Folks, I'm 51, okay? I'm not young anymore. I'm not that old, but I'm not young. I've lived a half a century.

We did not have the internet when I grew up. Remember, folks, you remember in the chat, where did you get your sports scores in the morning? The freaking newspaper where you turned on the radio and he had to wait for the sports report to see if the Yankees won when I grew up in New York. You didn't just pop on a smartphone. There were no smartphones.

When I grew up, we had the rotor phone. Remember the rotor thing? That's what we grew up. My mother could dial that thing really fast. You choose, if you take these ridiculous Roe-Conna position, right now. I want you to understand liberals. This is directed at you. You choose to be stupid. It is a choice to be dumb. I'm going to go a little out of order, Justin. Sorry. I was going to put

this at the end of the show, but I got to put it here. And I'll get to the Florida video too. I debated putting this in the show, but I promise. We got a lot of head. That congressman, McBride, can you put up the tweet? This is what it looks like to be deliberately stupid. This is a different congressman sarah mcbride congressman mcbride says in a political career defined by grotesque statements this president's horrifying illegal and genocidal threat this morning is the most dangerous and appalling she notes uh it's actually is a congressman mcgrad it's a man right well he notes you can't shout fire in a crowded theater and the president cannot be allowed to threaten genocide with the United States military. And she goes on to some other bullshit about war crimes. Keep that up just one

second. This is a congressman, a United States congressman, just like Roe Kana, who chooses to be stupid. Because Congressman McBride could just go to the interwebs and actually look up if the First Amendment standard is, can you shout fire in a crowded theater? Put up the Atlantic article, please. I'll show you that first. If you really want a thorough breakdown of it. The Atlantic's a pretty left-wing paper. But this article's really good by Jeff Kosef. We've used it a thousand times, hat-tip producer, Jim. I knew when he saw this yesterday, because we just covered on the show, we'll put this out there. America's favorite flimsy pretext for limiting free speech. Accusing people of shouting fire in a crowded theater isn't sufficient

grounds for regulating what they say. Now, all Congressman McPride had to do, because he chooses to be dumb is go to like Google Gemini or one of their favorite left-wing AI generators and just put in. Tell me about the First Amendment and fire at a movie theater. So I did it for the congressman. The case is an overturned precedent. Overturned by Brandenburg versus Ohio, which set a higher bar. Speech can only be suppressed if it incites imminent, lawless action. While a hypothetical analogy, it was likely influenced by real life early, early

20th century panic events. Today, the phrase is recognized as a misunderstanding of current First Amendment law, which protects most speech unless it directly causes immediate panic or violence. They could have just looked that up, the congressman. Could have just looked it up. But we had to do the homework for them, right, Justin? Because R.W., buddy, I love you. But there's a third party listening who I promise just learned something.

You mean saying you can't shout fire in a moment. movie theater is inaccurate when discussing the First Amendment? Yes. You could have just looked it up yourself. That's kind of like your job. I mean, know the Constitution and stuff like that. I mean, you're a congressman, right? It's true. Congressman is very confused about a lot of things. So that is a very good point. So one of these days we'll do Justin open my Thursdays or Fridays or something, but I may have to put the show on tape delay. If you only knew. They choose to be dumb.

You have this amazing tool. Look, I have it right here. I have, look, I have two. I have the Dan Bonino show. Tablet, the Dan Bongino smartphone. You can actually do this, Congressman. Look, it's right there on the desk with the lean and all the other stuff. You can actually go and look this stuff up too.

You understand now why I got. So I was chatting with a, a friend of mine in the commentary space. You all know. I'll leave his name out of it because it was a private conversation. But we were chatting about my time at the FBI. And he said, you know, listen, I appreciate you going in there.

It must be tough to work in the administration, be so vocal as a commentator before. And then basically have to stay quiet while a bunch of assholes just lie about you. And I said, you know, it was hard. There's no doubt. They still do. Nothing happened.

And then you list out like 20 and 30, 30, 40 things that happen. And they just ignore it. You have to balance that with this tendency to kind of over-explain. Because then you sound defensive. And believe me, I'm not. I'm extremely proud of what we did. And you guys can go look at them. I'm not going to waste your time with resumes on the show.

It's just bullshit. It is. You guys are here for other stuff. But I did say, like, you know, what frustrates me the most is you can actually go look this stuff up, like what happened while we were there. You can go look this stuff up, but there are people out there who would lie to you on purpose. Here's what I mean. This guy, I saw this on, sometimes if I'm looking for material, I'll go through other news aggregators,

especially far left ones because I want to see the narrative they're trying to put out there. Remember, the left always wants to tell you a story, not the story. Those are not the same thing. Us story is typically a BS narrative. The story is the truth. So I saw this yesterday on Drudge. It was a substack by Ken Clippenstein. And it's about something we did at the FBI.

I promise you I'm not going to bore you with a lot of the – but this is important because this involves not just my time there, but this involves the future of the surveillance state in the United States. You should read this piece if you get a moment. Ken Clippenstein, April 5th, 2026, exclusive. FBI's new political pre-crime center are your views on the list of domestic terrorism indicators? Now I kind of worked there and was the leader of this project. You're like the pre-crime project?

You had Tom Cruise in there again, just like at the beginning of the show doing the finger thing on Minority Report. It was incredible. We had the precogs. They all had names, right? They were like three of them or something. They were floating in the basement of the Hoover building

or all the concretes falling off the ceiling because lawmakers couldn't figure out what to do with the freaking FBI headquarters. Yeah, we had to make. in the basement. Of course, I'm being sarcastic. Folks, what we did was we dismantled, in effect, what was a politically driven left-wing effort to weaponize the FBI and to use like MAGA hats as indicators of who to investigate. I was there. You know how many briefings we did on this? We dismantled that whole thing. We got rid of entombed.

higher chunks of the FBI that were doing that stuff. And we did not make it a pre-crime center, Ken Clippancy. I don't know who the hell you're talking to. We actually codified and made crystal clear that we are not targeting anyone for their First Amendment protected political beliefs. You're just pissed off that this new FBI, at least, is not going after people who wear MAGA hats. So you use these catchy titles, a pre-crime center.

Are you a domestic terrorist because you put something in a Reddit blog about how you didn't like Donald Trump? Bullshit. You're totally making that up. How many times I told you on the show in the, you know, I don't know, three months we've been back now? That was my primary concern is protecting people's civil liberties. And I was very honest with you that there is a tradeoff there. You want absolute security? Yes, have the FBI by a thousand surveillance.

products, we can just tap into your phone with no touch malware. I don't want that. And you shouldn't either. The downside to that is occasionally if people secrete themselves in society enough and don't leave enough footprints around and don't tell anyone they're going to commit an attack, there are going to be people that slip through. That's the hard truth. You want absolute security, forfeit all your liberty. I'm not doing that. And that article is bullshit. There's no pre-crime center. Nobody's being monitored without a proper predicate. You're totally full of shit.

Show me a case where we just illegally started some investigation on someone because they said I don't like Donald Trump. You can't. You're making it up. However, we had examples of people who'd done that before. Folks, this stuff

worries me. I really am concerned about the explosion in surveillance technology. It was concerned while I was there too. We put in hardcore guardrails against us being able, our federal government, to surveil you. Why? Because there's going to be at some point in government. It's inevitable. There is going to be some change in leadership. I hope it's not in the midterms. I hope it's not in 2028. But pretending like Democrats will never get power again ever is not realistic. They will.

And I worry about it because the guy who's going to run for president, Gavin Newsom, his wife, become a total liability. You may have seen this clip. These are what, this is mainstream thinking on the left. Forget about her and Newsom for a minute. This is mainstream thinking on the left, that there are bad ideas out there that need to be censored. These were the people who were running the FBI

and elsewhere before we made the changes away from the pre-crime stuff he talked about. They will be back in charge one day. And I promise, no matter how many agencies you create, how many people you fire, they are going to get new people back in there that think about censorship, the exact way Gavin Newsom's wife does

or the first partner, whatever she wants to call herself. Check this out. Every problem that we have in society right now will be fixed when women come together and partner with our male allies and other allies, but when more women are in the rooms, making decisions,

changing the status quo, and transforming not just our culture, but our society and our economy. I'll give you one example. Look at Silicon Valley. Had more women been early on in those companies or at the tables of power making decisions, I don't think we would have so much,

or have allowed for so much sort of bigotry, racism, misogyny, and hate online. I don't think that we would have the anonymity of it. I think that there would have been, ooh, that's unkind. That's not okay. You can't make money off of that about dividing people, misinforming people, you know, belittling people, bullying people. I mean, again, think about who's the victims online more often than not.

It's women, LGBTQ plus, marginalized communities, women of color. Hat tip the Great Maze Moore for pulling that. Folks, this is, forget her for a minute. Forget Newsom. I know they're easy targets. I promise you having spent a significant amount of my financial and political capital investing in free speech platforms, whether it's parallel economy or rumble or elsewhere. For people, frankly, many of them I addressed it yesterday with Scott Jennings who hate my guts.

It's okay. You're allowed to hate my guts. I'll provide you a platform for doing it. Well, you're safe to do that. I'll invest in a platform for you to go and say whatever you want about. I mean, listen, you can't break the law. You can't threaten like a terror attack or anything like that. But as long as you comply with the terms of service,

I'm really glad that there are people out there who can use these platforms. We don't have to worry about people who invest in them, like getting their draws in a bunch. And, oh, we're going to be. We're not into that. That is the left. When they get back in charge, you better be really careful about the surveillance tools you give them. Because, folks, I'm telling you, I lived it. I'm not sure you have any idea how powerful the technology out there is to watch almost every single thing you do.

You leave a digital footprint everywhere with these devices you carry around with you. Everywhere. Oh, I put it in there. Good luck. We have important choices coming up, folks. Those choices are there. And it is your choice if you are a disaffected MAGA Republican. in who ignored the last year of the Trump presidency,

and you're one of these dumer people thinks everything is awful. I don't know where you're getting that from, but even if it was true, it is not. You have a choice. The Jennifer Newsom's censorship left crowd, the Minnesota, California, Medicare fraud crowd, the out-of-control government debt crowd, the Rokana, oh, Iran, they got rid of their nuclear stuff.

they are choosing to be stupid. You have a choice. Please choose wisely. The Republicans may not be the solution to all your problems in the midterms, but the Democrats are the cause of your problems. I have zero doubt about that. Play the CBS clip.

Do you know what this must take for CBS? Folks, there's been some changes there, but it's still CBS, okay? Here is CBS doing a story on again, a massive, massive payload of fraud coming out of California because of a state run by Democrats' insistence on stealing your money and giving it to people who don't deserve it. Check this out. Our ongoing CBS News investigation into fraud in the hospice industry. Our investigative unit

found some potential red flags when hospice doctors submitted claims for more than 20 times the number of patients the average California doctor cares for in a year. CBS News correspondent Adam Yamaguchi hit the road to follow the money. The state of California says that if a doctor is involved with any more than like even just a few hospices, it is a sign of potential fraud. At the heart of the industry are doctors who are trusted to sign off on care. But in records for the active physicians caring for terminal patients, one stands out. A man whose name appeared on claims from 126 hospices and had 60% more in Medicare reimbursements than the next closest doctor in the next closest doctor.

24, the last full year of available data. Dr. Rajiv Buba. My name is Adam Yamaguchi. I'm a correspondent with CBS News, and we're doing a story about hospice. And we're just trying to understand how often he's here. In a long time. I didn't see him in a long time. That's weird.

This guy supposedly seeing all these patients and managing the place. How do you not see him in a long time? How does that work? How does that work? It's CBS, folks. It's CBS doing this. I told you going forward. Listen, bookmark the show.

The price of Democrat and liberal stupidity going forward is going to be very, very high. Folks, the media ecosystem with, again, Nick Shirley and Cam Higby and others out there doing entrepreneurial independent journalism. You've had O'Keefe doing it forever. It's going to get really, really hard to pretend the welfare state works going forward. You're going to see outlets like CBS and NBC and others that are going to be embarrassed into covering this. Why? Because it's going to be so nuclear online that to not cover it is going to be so obvious. It's going to result in a black mark even for these left-wing activists organizations.

I promise you're already seeing it. You can't hide the welfare state. This is again what upsets me about a portion of people who pretend to be in our movement who constantly crap on the Trump administration pretending nothing's happening. There have been hundreds of arrests out of Minnesota. There have been bollodes of arrests out of California. Those are just the federal ones. So I saw it circulating around online yesterday.

Oh, yeah, well, they're closing down a lot of these investigations. What are you talking about? The acting Attorney General Todd Blanche just gave a presser yesterday and laid out the number of active investigations that are going on into this massive government fraud. What do you think the number was? 80, 100, 200. The number he threw out to was 8,000.

when he gave a presser with Colin McDonald, the new AAG who's going to be in charge of this J.D. Vance-led effort on national government fraud. Here, listen to yourself. Check this out. The Department of Justice is holding criminals accountable for stealing over half a billion dollars from taxpayers. And across our U.S. Attorney's offices, all over this country, we currently have over 8,000 fraud matters underway. Unfortunately, as you've heard a lot about recently, because it's true, these cases represent a fraction of the fraud ripping off our country every day. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump, this department, working closely with the task force to eliminate fraud, is supercharging efforts to take down every fraudster and bring them to justice. I don't understand. You think the vice president of the United States, who unlike borders are, Kamala Harris, who never actually went to the border and did.

Jack Squat and Jack left town. You think J.D. Vance, a smart, savvy political leader who's been, this is his big job right now, root out government fraud using the government's investigative capabilities and prosecutorial capabilities. You think J.D. Vance is sitting on his ass? Nothing's happening. No, it is happening. You just talked about it.

You're just trying to disenfranchise people before the midterms. I'm not going to let it happen. Thankfully, we've got an enormous audience to spread the word and even bigger audience. online. You're just making that up. Folks, we can't continue to dole out money and wheelbarrows, out the door to fake doctors, fake medical clinics, fake, what is it, leering centers, can't even spell learning center, right? We can't afford it. We are in a really perilous national debt situation. And yes, both Republican and Democrat Congresses, the Senate, presidents,

State level leadership, when it comes to state debt, have contributed to the problem. Don't at me, bro. I get it. You are correct. It is not exclusively a Democrat problem. However, the only person to do something about the exploding national potential bankruptcy problem through our national death has been Donald Trump. The only person is pared down to government workforce. He gave Elon Musk basically free reign with Doge to go and look at the government books.

got a Doge guy in there early on, found a whole bunch of stuff. We had some subscriptions to magazine outlets, no one had opened in years. I was like, how much is that? Oh, a couple hundred thousand dollars. I'm like, what? Here's Elon Musk talking about the extent of the government debt problem. And I want you to pay attention to this. This is important.

Our government debt, both on and kind of off the books when it comes to entitlements, at our current GDP, we are de facto bankrupt. at our current GDP levels. We're never going to be able to pay it off. Elon's correct with the math. But he brings up an interesting point I've discussed with you many times. I hope you remember

that if we can bump our GDP growth up and give ourselves a national raise, we can grow our way out of this. Now it's not so much a race against the numbers. It's a race against time. We have to get to this AI quantum revolution where we get to huge growth rates before that day of reckoning comes and people start to call into debt. Here's Elon explaining exactly this point. Check this out. What was the point of the doge cuts if the economy is going to grow so much?

Well, I think like wasting forward are not good things to have, you know. I was actually pretty worried about, I guess, I mean, I, I, I mean, I, I think in the absence of AI and robotics, we're actually totally screwed because the national debt is piling up like crazy. Now, our interest payments, the interest payments to national debt exceed the military budget, which is a trillion dollars. So over a trillion dollars, just the interest payments. You know, that was like, I was like, okay, pretty concerned about that. Maybe if I spend some time, we can slow down the bankruptcy of the United States and give us enough time for, for the AI and robots to, you know, help solve the national debt.

Or not help solve. It's the only thing that could solve the national debt. Like, we are 1,000% going to go bankrupt as a country and fail as a country without AI and robots. Nothing else will solve the national debt. I want to just use a quick analogy on this. If you were to buy a house and go into debt, like the United States is in debt, and the mortgage payments, you can only afford.

the interest payments every month, and then you start falling behind on that, the interest gets piled into the principal, which becomes additive as interest payments start to pile up because the interest is being added back to the principal. You will never, ever be able to pay that house off unless what happens? Unless you get a massive raise. Elon is correct. AI, quantum, massive growth productivity effects of that, which you're going to start to see filter into the economy. If we can get there quick enough, we'll give us enough of a national raise we can get out ahead of this. Because the numbers, I saw Dave Schweiger put this up, this tweet. The numbers, folks, are staggering. They are really hard to comprehend. He notes the national debt is

38 trillion, basically 39 trillion. The grow rate on it is absurd. And then he quote tweets, total gross national debt, $39 trillion relative to one year ago, $2.77 trillion higher relative to five years ago, 10.9 trillion higher. Folks, if we don't grow our way out of this, there is no way out. That is why these midterms are so important. At least you've got a guy in the White House right now

that recognizes the problem, and he's trying to, as Elon said, use things like paring down the workforce, doge cuts, government efficiency enhancements, to at least buy some time. It is incredibly important that we do that. And we have the right system in place. You hear people crapping on capitalism all the time.

I see these young people in love with Zoran Mamdami and AOC. By the way, when they're on their, you know, fancy iPhones with their beats headphones and run around, like, who do you think invented that? The Soviets? I get really tired of this like shitting on economic liberty and freedom, as if you ever grew up in a different system and have a comparative model.

If you grew up in the Soviet Union, trust me, you would not be a communist. There was an interesting piece in the Wall Street Journal about this. I used to bring this up years ago because this happened in the Reagan era when the economy exploded. People used to say, the middle class is shrinking under Reagan.

And they were right. They were right, Dan. I thought you just said capitalism works. The middle class was shrinking during the Reagan era because the middle class, were moving into the upper middle class and getting richer. They left that part out. Oh, looky here.

Jason Riley piece in the Wall Street Journal. It's happening again. I thought capitalism sucks. Riley notes in 1979, the upper middle class was 10% of all families. By 2024, it was 31%. So, yeah, the American middle class is shrinking. Because they're getting richer. Those are just data, folks, to the young men and women who listen to my show, RW, this is why I put this stuff out there, who listen to Mam Dami.

Capitalism has failed. Everybody's going broke. Country sucks. The middle class is shrinking. It is. You are correct. Because they're getting richer. That's why.

You can look at the data just like I did. you can go to Google Gemini or your favorite AI aggregator. You can look it up too. It's not hard. You just don't want to because you want to be stupid. My audience doesn't want that. Let me get to this Florida video. And let me just warn you in advance,

even though it's been blacked out the really horrific portions of this video. The video is an attack by a person who came into the country illegally. He was given protective status. You know, put up the Malugian tweet first. Give you a little background. Probably do it that way better. Now, that way you're prepared. You may not be ready for this.

If you're not, I understand. I have Vince Colon-A's coming up next. So if you want to take like a two-minute break, I get it. The video is pretty horrifying. And I debated putting it on the air. But folks, sometimes we all need a little shock treatment. And we need to see the consequences

of the actions of the Biden administration on the open border. The subject in this video, the suspect being charged with murder at a gas station in Fort Myers, Florida. bludgeoned this woman to death with a hammer. Meluja notes the subject suspect in the case is a Haitian illegal alien who was caught and released at the border by the Biden administration in 2022.

An immigration judge ordered the subject deported from the U.S. later that same year, but DHS under the Biden administration, shielded him from deportation by granting him TPS, temporary protected status, which expired in 2024. for. It brings back the point I made often that, yes, not every single person who enters the country illegally, even though you broke the law, will go on to commit additional crimes because you committed a crime, and you shouldn't be here, period.

Stop. However, this individual in this video should not have been here at all. That's the point. That's the point. Once we get control of the illegal immigration. situation, the crime rate will drop. We do not need to add people to the country as a magnet for people, many of whom couldn't hack it in their own country. And some of them may be fugitives in their own country. Here is the video. This is really tough to watch. Yeah, I mean, folks,

I'm sorry to have to play this, but this is just, we can't just continue to ignore this stuff. I go, I don't want to see it. Sometimes you just have to see it. I want to bring up two quick points on this. Folks, upwards of 75 to 80% of the violent crime, you see this guy now walking up. Look, he can't believe what he's seeing. He's looking right. He can't believe this is real.

It's so horrifying. Upwards of 80% of the violent crime committed, I want you to remember this, is committed by easily less than 5% of the population, closer to 1% of the population. So say one out of 100, people in a town commit 80% of the violent crime.

Here's the kicker. Those subjects, on average, were arrested 8 to 12 times. So this person, if he isn't caught, well, we get it now, what's called? But if he wasn't, we'd probably go out to commit more crimes. Once you get rid of those people, your crime rate, just like we did at the FBI, we had the best year ever on violent crimes. Just a fact.

Dumers, you can talk all the shit you want. You're never going to get past that. We had the best year ever. The murder rate was the lowest in U.S. history. The crime rate dropped off the face of the earth. Because we targeted that 1%. Why would you add to that 1% by allowing lawbreakers into the country illegally at the border?

Why? We have an immigration process. You know what it's called? The immigration process. Why would you let people in who are prone to breaking the law? If you know even a small portion of them are going to go on to commit potentially 5 to 10 to 15 violent crimes? absolutely unforgivable.

I got Vince Colin Ace coming up in a minute. Going to take a quick break. You're not going to want to miss that. If you want to check him out, by the way, he's at rumble.com slash Vince every morning at 8 a.m. He's one of my good friends. And what we do is he comes on my show every other Wednesday and then I go on his radio show.

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He is live at 8 a.m. Talked yesterday, Vince, with Scott Jennings about the value of live content. You know, I wasn't one of my intended questions, but, you know, with all the AI slop and garbage out there yesterday, being live with that community you have every morning at 8 a.m. People know it's you because it's live and it's not AI slop, you know? And you've got to do it live. You know, it's funny. I think some of my radio affiliates across the country yesterday, but maybe we're a little annoyed with me. A couple of our stations don't carry me live.

they carry me on delay. But I said on the program yesterday, guys, the reason why it's so important for the content to be live is the news changes too quickly. Dan, you know, if you record something an hour before it airs, even that is perilous. That's like, whoa, wait a second. The news may change dramatically. This is just the world in which we live and move so quickly. Thanks to Donald Trump especially, you've just got to be live. And that's why I think it's so valuable. It's so cool we can do this on Rumble every day. It is. And you know, Vince and I are friends that we talk a lot, you know, not on the air, obviously. And we always mention this, how the Trump news cycle, you know, I try to do show prep like

you the day before because it takes a long time. I mean, I do about an hour and 20 to an hour and 50 a content. It's always like the rule is like times two. And that's if you know what you're doing. If you know where to go for sources. If not, it can take six, seven hours. So you're talking about like four hours of prep, which is about, right? You have to do it the day before.

But then you go to bed and you wake up in the morning and I get to the story. studio at about eight o'clock. And there's like five or six stories. You're like, oh, shit, I missed this one too. So I knew yesterday was a day like this, Dan, because we knew the 8 p.m. deadline was coming. Right. So the 8 p.m. deadline's coming. And I kind of had a hunch about how it was going to go. Actually, it went exactly the way I expected it would go. But that's because I've seen Donald Trump operate in the past. But having said that, I had prepared all sorts of content just before the 8 p.m. deadline. I had everything. I'd like, here's what's coming next. And I knew I was like, this is all going to be blown up. What am I doing all this for? Because by the time 8 o'clock turns,

we'll have a brand new news cycle. Do you do what I do, though, because you don't know what's going to happen. Your show wraps, your radio show wraps at 3 p.m. So there's obviously a five-hour gap between the Trump deadline at 8 p.m. What I do is I'll leave a blank portion in the show in my notebook, and I'll have like an if-then. If-then, if we do take care of business and knock out ports and bridges, this is where we're going to go. And if he does, like, I have to prepare a bunch of if-then equations like it's a Commodore 64 from the 80s to do it. But you know, you kind of segwayed into my first, unintentionally into my first question, which is, you know, we were kind of chatting about this a little before.

How the media is just intentionally ignorant about this. Trump does this all the time. If you have followed Trump like you and I have for close to 10 years now. Yes. Trump negotiates. If he doesn't get what he wants, he takes a maximalist position. you know, Armageddon, read 100% tariffs. He then backs off the position on a better and more kind of elevated, more responsive

baseline than when he started. There's no Iranian mullahs, ballistic missile capabilities are damaged, drone capabilities are damaged. He does this all the time, and the media pretends they don't know what he's doing because they want him to look chaotic and basically disorganized. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a combination of factors. One, there's like sinister people who clearly know. the way this goes because they've watched the context for long enough they've been around as long as

you and i have and they know how about donald trump operates also there's like wet behind the ears idiots who are being elevated to positions in journalism where they shouldn't be and because they couldn't get like a better paying job and uh they're doing this and they just don't know they're like oh oh my god trump's gonna blow up an entire civilization no stupid let me walk you through this in 2017 he's got a big problem with north korea right north korea one of the big overriding themes of President Trump's concern, his entire presidency, every time, as long as he's been in politics, is nuclear weapons. The guy grew up during the Cold War. He hates nuclear weapons. He says that, forget global warming. I'm concerned about nuclear warming. So nuclear weapons are a big deal to him.

Remember, President Obama left him a note when he came in office the first time. His big overriding concern was the nuclear weapon threat from North Korea. So by the time we get to fall of 2017, President Trump's sitting in an opioid meeting. And he says, North Korea, if you don't knock it off, I'm going to bring fire and fury like you've never seen before. The world has never seen is what he promised. And guess what happened after that? He mitigated the nuclear threat from North Korea. The nuclear testing dropped.

He opened up historic diplomacy with Kim Jong-un. The media was freaking out during that entire sequence, and the president kept his cool and he pursued it anyway. There were later reports, Dan, that President Trump threatened to bomb Moscow. He told Vladimir Putin that he was ready to bomb the capital. city of Russia to get them to behave. And I've heard that actually from other sources, too, that the president actually made that threat. So he makes these threats because as you point out, he's making a maximalist claim. He's doing it in the service of a high-stakes negotiation.

And he always taxed to a negotiated middle. So when he says he's going to blow up an entire civilization, you know this guy. He cares about human life. The last thing he wants is some big power vacuum and more terrorism in the Middle East. He wants to settle up. And he wants to settle up. And he wants to wants to serve the American people. But on the maximalist position he takes, 100% tariffs, civilization's going to be wiped out in Iran, North Korea, my nuclear button is bigger than yours. Remember that one?

The maximalist position only works because you don't know if he's bluffing or not. In other words, like, let's say he hadn't killed Soleimani, given the order to kill Soleimani, hadn't wiped out those Russian Merck's on. the Syrian battlefield, the Wagner group folks, back in his first term. If he hadn't went and ordered the military to swipe Maduro from freaking Venezuela, if he hadn't engaged in Midnight Hammer and these other Iranian war activities we've been involved in for the last four to six weeks, the maximalist position would not be an effective

debating or a, excuse me, negotiation tactic. It only works because he is so freaking unpredictable. And when Putin here is like, hey, this guy could bomb Moscow, Moscow, Putin's probably sitting there like, is this mother, is he serious or not? Like, they don't really know. That's why it works. You know, you're right. So he, he'll start the fight or at least he'll pick up the fight.

If somebody's fighting against him, he's a counterpuncher, as you know. He'll hit you in the mouth a couple of times. And then you're like, wait, is he really going to finish me off? Is he really going to kill me right now? Like, I don't know what this guy's going to do. And I'll just give you a couple of really clear examples of the. this. Where's one? Earlier this week, remember that big press conference he did? And when he said that there was a negotiation underway, J.D. Van, Steve Wiccoff, Jared Kushner, were getting

closer with Iran. But suddenly these guys report back to the president, hey, Mr. President, they're walking away from the table. They're breaking the deal here. And the president says, that's fine. Tell them it's okay. But then tell him, look out their window. And so they look at the window, he blows up the biggest bridge in Iran. So in other words, like, you know, there's this weird kind of fascination in the left. They really want Trump to be weak and broken. They think he's insane. They also think he's a coward.

Have you noticed that they wanted, like basically every kind of terrible thing you can be, they ascribe to Trump. And they've been accusing him of chickening out. I don't know if you've probably seen. Yeah, the taco. Yeah. Taco, yeah. Trump always chickens out.

No, actually, the real trend is Trump always chokes them out. Trump always grabs whoever his adversary is and puts them in a choke out, chokehold. And by the end of it, they're tapping out of this, which is what we're watching Iran do right now. Yesterday's breakthrough in these negotiations is seismic. It's historic. The president achieved something that for 47 years was impossible, and he did it with high-stakes negotiation and a very intense focus on the goal. What's your take on the fissure within the Republican Party or the media, I think, inflamed fissures within the Republican Party over war? There are very few, you know, when we have this Republican Party, you've been doing media, especially radio, for a long time.

So you listen to callers and everything. We're not Democrats. We're not automaton's. We have a real diversity of opinion on, you know, and we're all good on the Second Amendment free speech. We get all that taxes. But when it comes to things like, you know, especially like foreign interventions in war, there's a good healthy debate within the party. You got the old school conservatives. You've got the libertarian wing.

You've got the conservatians. you've got MAGA, you've got the old bushy crowd. There's a really diverse group of opinions in there, and that's a good thing. But I think the media is really exaggerating the fissures over this. Number one, it's only been a couple of months. Second, we're already in a ceasefire. Whether it works or not, we don't know. We'll see.

But if this was a prolonged war like Iraq, which I think overall, you know, in the end, there were some good things and some bad things that came out of the Iraq War. I think that would be correct. I think the fissures would be Grand Canyon-like. Right. But the poll data doesn't seem to indicate a really wide kind of chasm in the Republican Party right now. I think it's just the media trying to make that happen.

I think that I think you're right about all of that. I think what's happening is that there are, as you point out, there's like actually legitimate debate that happens on the right, which I really enjoy. And especially the further we are away from an election, the more reasonable it is to have those debates in public because, you know, it's really about the term. what does the future look like for our country and what do we all believe in. And then as we get closer to an actual election, you know, we got to get our act together and defeat the left every time. But when it comes to this issue, the reason why there is a

diversity of opinion is because, well, you experienced this at the FBI. We have institutions with crappy reputations. The reputations that they have are the result of their betrayal of the American people on a routine basis. So when you go in as deputy director, you're the inheritor of a crappy reputation established by abuses of power. The same is true with the military establishment in our country. People went through Afghanistan and Iraq. They saw the betrayals. They saw the power vacuums, the terrorism that arose from it, the loss of blood and treasure. And so our instincts are now attuned to say, I'm kind of against that reflexively. I err on the side of I don't want to be involved at all. So if you ask the average American voter, Trump voter,

before this, if we should go into Iran right now, chances are they probably have said no. Here's the difference. They trust the president. The president made this decision on a rational basis. He decided that the nuclear threat was meaningful, that Iran was building a conventional weapons arsenal to basically create a security blanket to prevent anybody from stopping them from redeveloping their nuclear threat that he bombed last year. And he said, now's the time. This is our window of opportunity. We have to strike. Let's resolve this problem once and for all. So what I'm actually seeing in the surveys, and I think what you're seeing, Dan, is just a lot of trust right now. Basically, people who are, who don't want to be in any sort of long-lasting quagmire,

which is the word the administration keeps using to describe what they're trying to avoid, and that they trust the president a great deal. This is what we should expect from American politicians. They don't, you know, they should be able to, if at their best, if they're actually working for you, we give you the grace of trusting you to fulfill these missions. And I know the White House is cognizant of this. This is the reason why even today, Dan, as we're speaking, they're making a lot of statements to basically signal that they're done. This is it. They've met their primary goals.

Now it's just a matter of working out some of the details with Iran, but the president kept his timeline of four to six weeks. They're very attuned to this. And I think this comes down to what extent do you trust the president to fulfill this vision? Vince, your radio show is on at WMAL, one of the biggest, most influential stations in the country, because it's really the only solid conservative talker in D.C. So lawmakers listen to it because it's on their local.

radio. I know they do because when I was on the station, they would tell me, hey, I'd get it from media people who are in the D.C. Circuit, too. Yes. It punches way, way, way above its weight. You know, D.C. is not a particularly large city, but I think we can all agree. It's very influential. I'd say that because, you know, what you say on the radio matters, and I want to get your take on NATO. I had addressed this yesterday. My experience in the past year during the job I was in at the Bureau there, as we produce, I'll undersell it a little bit to not be dramatic, probably 75% of the value with our international partners on the law enforcement, counter espionage, counterterror, and certainly on the warfare front. We're about 75% of the equation. We're probably more,

but I don't want to be dramatic. I've seen it because I would ask for something and they can't produce it sometimes, but we can produce it back when they ask. And that was about three-fourths of the time. I think the American public is a little exhausted with international allies who become fair weather friends. I don't want to be dramatic. I read a piece of the Wall Street Journal where they are providing some stuff behind the scenes. They just don't want to publicly say it. But I think it's time that you're either publicly with us or you're against us. And if we're going to continue to take Americans hard-earned money and become the global police force for Europe that's got threats right next to them. We got two oceans protecting us. I mean, that's not a silo,

but it's a lot. You've got Russia over there. You've got, you know, China not far away. You've got a rhyme with ballistic missiles that can reach you. You know, it's time to act like it. You better start producing the money, the weaponry, the warfare, and the public backing where you guys are publicly behind us or the American people are going to be like, hey, man, we're out, we're done. I think Europe's just lost. I think they're rudderless. I don't think they actually know what they stand for. It's not even clear that they stand for their own people. We saw J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio over the course of two years give speeches of different tones, but the same substance, which is Europe needs to rediscover its history and recommit to Western civilization.

Because if it doesn't, this whole, everything collapses. I mean, it really matters a great deal that Europe protects its legacy. And, you know, the population that gave us the Magna Carta. I mean, come on, we need to restore that. And that's not there. right now. It's kind of a lost identity. And in that lost identity, I don't think they even really understand what NATO's for. I mean, once the Soviet Union collapsed, they just thought that NATO was going to be some sort of rescue operation for them consistently and that they could just be a bunch of deadbeats. Now, as I know you mentioned on your show yesterday, there's, of course, examples when it came to after 9-11, we had NATO partners that were helping us. That's all very valuable. And it's the

kind of thing that they should do for sure. But here in this present moment, it has been just an atrocity that NATO hasn't stepped up to take care of concerns that are actually more immediate to them than they are to us. I mean, the Strait of Hormuz is responsible for so much of the world's energy. But fundamentally, most of that energy goes to that region. It goes to Europe. It goes to Asia. I mean, the reason China got involved reportedly in the deal yesterday to try and get Iran to the table is because 40% of their energy comes through the Strait of Hormuz. That's what induced them to get involved here. And so it's just disappointing, actually. It's just, I look at it and shake my head, President Trump has been fighting to strengthen that alliance, despite what the media tells you.

He's got everybody there increasing their spending. Like the NATO Secretary's General keep like absolutely praising President Trump for what he's done to restore that institution. And yet even in all of the work he's done to make it better, they're still failing to respond to us, despite the fact that we will empty our stockpiles for them. We did that. You just heard from Pete Heggseth, say it. The unfortunate thing is we sent all of our weapons to Ukraine.

And now we're spending, you know, that big hundred people. hundreds of billions of dollars packaged, we just sent to Congress asking for more weaponry. The reason is because Biden emptied out all of our weapons for Ukraine, and we need them now in our conflict in Iran. It's just crazy what's happening, and NATO should step up. I'm glad you brought that up about China. I discussed that earlier in the show, how China is actually pushing for a deal here to get the straight open. China, no friend of NATO. I think we're all pretty clear on that. But that's just kind of strange, like a, you know, a de facto kind of declared enemy of the United States, the CCP is like, hey, guys, this would probably be better for the globe

if we can get a deal done. And our NATO partners, I don't know, man, I'm not sure we want to come public with us. It's so absurd. Let me switch gears a little bit, you know, a topic that's always hot on the American agenda, probably led to Donald Trump's, you know, 2016 election and, you know, was a real kind of a firestarter. Immigration. I played a video earlier in the show out of Florida, horrifying video. honestly debated, even putting it on the air, but sometimes you just need kind of shock treatment for the audience, the part that's really unconvinced that illegal immigration is a problem.

And I'm really tiring of this argument, like, well, most of the people that come here illegally don't go on to break additional laws. Fine, even if that's true, I don't necessarily buy a lot of their data. But even if that's true, when one person does, like this illegal, was protected by the Biden administration, hammer some woman's face into, you know, causing her horrific, tragic death. Like, that's enough for me. Like, if you told me someone had a nuclear payload, they were going to smuggle into the United

States in a suitcase, and they're going to come across the border illegally, we would shut the border tomorrow. Like, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you let people in here who shouldn't be here. That woman should be alive. Look, she'd be alive today if our borders were secure. Jocelyn Ungeray, Lake and Riley, Stephanie Mee. mentor. The names go on and on. These are all people who would be alive today if our borders were

secure. And so what is the argument that the left is really making here? Like it's just so insane. And it's insulting, actually, in a million different ways. One of the ones that they'll often make is they'll lie the difference between illegal and legal immigrants. And then they'll say something like, well, immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens. So what are you telling me? So even if I were to accept that as true, and it's not, it's a lie. Or even if I were to accept that as true, So you're saying American citizens suck more? Is that really your argument? The American citizens are worse.

So what are you complaining about? That's another way of saying we have enough of our own problems. Why do we have to import more? Again, it's entirely abusive. And the illegal immigrant crime rate is 100%. I love that the game is like, well, it's 100%. If you break our laws, it's 100%. I know this comes as a shock to Don Lemon,

who doesn't think that illegally entering the country is illegal. It's illegal, which is another way of saying it's a crime. it's a hundred percent crime rate to illegally immigrate into our country. And one of the realities here is, in addition to just people pouring into our country for a million different reasons, we've discovered that a lot of them are here for very sinister reasons, unfortunately. So in addition to breaking that fundamental law, you come in and then you're hurting American citizens and you're stabbing them to death and a bus stop. You're hammering him in the face. How about no? How about we get you the hell out of our country?

And my preference would be to deport you into the sun. If we can get Elon Musk to do that, that'd be helpful. I just, I can't take this anymore. I just think it's insane. It's obviously the reason President Trump was elected in big margins. We got too big to rig. Mass deportation was the priority. And, you know, you know this, but one of the things has been a source of great

frustration for me for this whole Trump administration is the lack of awareness of the level of success we've had on subjects like this. So this is a stark reminder of the problems that Joe Biden and the left have created for our country. But imagine how much worse it would be if we hadn't deported three million people in the last year. Three million people. And you might be like, Vince, we didn't deport three. Yes, we did. We kicked out three million foreigners of our country over the last year.

Nobody wants to talk about it except for us. I'll talk about him. How many more did not come here as a magnet because they knew they were. would be deported. Honestly, probably another five million. So you're talking about, I mean, I can't prove a counterfactual, but those numbers are probably pretty close. And I had addressed earlier in the show that when you do the criminology mathematics on this stuff, about, what is it, 1% of the population or so commits about 75% of the violent crime. And each one of those people has been arrested on average eight to 12 times, meaning they're repeat offenders. Obviously,

doing it over and over. Why would you add another, even if it's one percent of the 10 million people, why would you add another 1% of people that's going to go on to commit eight to 12 more violent crimes? It totally unnecessarily. I mean, you talk about this a lot. I was thinking about you yesterday, actually, about this exact point, which I know you also talk a lot about Rudy Giuliani's efforts in New York to resolve this exact problem, which is like, look, it's a very small number of people who commit all the same crimes, just arrest them. George Soros wants to release those people so they can kill more Americans. We want to arrest them and get them out of polite society

so that we can have a nice world. I saw a video this week. Maybe you saw it from President Buckele and El Salvador. He shared a flyover video of a town square, and it's beautiful. It's like people hanging out. There's kids jumping rope. It's like colorful outfits, dancing, eating, festival.

It's gorgeous. And a couple years ago, that wasn't possible. El Salvador was a hellhole. Trash, gangs, just absolute despair. And he's turned that country around on a dime. And the left, the global left, but the American left, hates this guy. They say he's a fascist. He's out of control.

But fundamentally, at his core, what has he achieved? He's restored order by taking that very small percentage of people that you're talking about off the streets, locking them up. And then when you get the bad guys out, it turns out the good people can actually enjoy their lives. This is not a difficult concept. He took the most dangerous country in the Western Hemisphere, and by some accounts, has turned it into the safest country into the Western. hemisphere. There's lessons in there. I'm telling you, follow the Constitution, follow the rule of law,

but lock up the bad guys. Yeah. And, you know, I say to people to kind of hammer this home, because, you know, people can avoid an assertion has been told to me many times, but they can't avoid a question that your brain just automatically wants to answer it. You know, I say to people all time you know, how many murderers or rapists do you know? And they're like horrified by the question. Like, none, of course. I'm like, well, why do you say, why do you respond like that? Well, I don't hang around with those people, nor would I hang around with anyone who knows those people. Why? Well, because they're thankfully really rare. Like, that's the point I try to make to people.

Like, you don't know a murderer or rapist because there's just not a lot of them. So when you get these scumbags off the street, people aren't getting murdered or raped or assaulted or burglarized. It's not, the math is not hard to figure out. And when people used to do these presentations for me on, you know, felony apprehension warrants and stuff in our conference room, I was stunned that how if you went out and just grabbed the pocket of a hundred people in Phoenix, Arizona, you could watch the crime rate the next month go down, you know, five, ten, 15, 20 points. I mean, we saw it in Memphis.

You know, it's incredible. The numbers are just so on our side if we just go and enforce the law. Yeah. So before we conclude here, I want to compliment you on something you said yesterday because I was listening with intensity to your program yesterday. And I heard you talking about the cost of the left. In other words, like the way the left operates, they have to spend, as you described, a ton of political capital in order to lie to the American people because the truth is just so prevalent

now thanks to social media, thanks to platforms like Rumble, thanks to shows like ours. And it got me thinking a lot, I'm obsessing over it for the last 24 hours. And here's what I was thinking. Not only do they have to spend political capital, they have to spend actual economic capital. They'd spend a lot of money to lie to the American people because the truth is so free and so prevalent right now that they just have to overwhelm it. And there's a couple of examples of this. certainly this issue, in order for the American people to continue to betray ourselves and to, like, allow people to pour into our country and stab us to death or hit us in the face with hammers, you've got to be lied to. Like, you have to be lied to at astronomical levels.

You have to live in the Truman Show in order to become convinced of that reality. And so that costs a lot of money to operate the Truman Show. Meanwhile, the rest of us doesn't actually cost that much money to tell the truth. Go to GROC. Go to Giac. Go to Gemini. This is how President Trump beat Hillary. Hillary spends a bajillion dollars to lose. Trump spends almost nothing, and he won because the truth prevailed. So when you look, big picture, I'm telling you, Dan, I've been thinking about this a lot.

I'm going to think about this a lot going forward. Big picture. The reason why the Democrats have to spend like $40 million right now to rig elections in Virginia is because they have to lie about what they're doing. Meanwhile, Republican voters are showing up in massive numbers, not because we have a lot of money supporting us. The reason they're showing up is because the truth has broken free. And we need so much more of that. But really, when the truth is on your side, what a great advantage to have that.

And I just want to thank you for putting that idea in my head. Oh, yeah. It's just such an obvious point. You go to like Google. It's not even a right-wing site. And I did it earlier in the show with this fire in a movie theater bullshit this congressman put out. Like that's not a thing.

All you had to do is put in, like before you tweeted this out, you just could have asked. Is fire in a movie theater the First Amendment standard? No, it is not. No. It's not hard. It costs me nothing. It cost me a half a kilo cal. Put my thumbs on the machine.

I mean, it's really simple. I got to run, Vince. I really appreciate it. Your show is amazing. You're crushing it. One of the top conservative podcasts out there. If you want to check it out, rumble.com slash Vince.

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