The Dan Bongino Show - INCOMING! Trump Set To Reveal The Deep State's Darkest Secrets TODAY | Episode 87

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

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Hey there, welcome to Vince. Good to have you with us. Holy cow, Remonsons are a technical issue. My voice is exploding back to me right now. Let's not, let's not send anything back to me right now, Florida. Welcome to Vince. Great to have you with us today on a Thursday, a busy day, a wild day as the White House is preparing to release a bunch of deep state information that comes to us right from the President of the United States. I've got updates on that. The Senate finally gets off of its fat ass and cuts some spending.

Finally. What took so long? Holy cow. And the latest on the AutoPen controversy. I've got quite a bit to get to today. Amber Duke stops by the program. Stay with us here on VINC. Always good to have you here.

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get done here. The Hill with the reporting this morning, this is the breaking news coming out of the evening, that the Senate has passed $9 billion in cuts to global aid and public broadcasting in win for Trump. The only thing they get wrong about this headline is it's not just a win for Trump, it's a win for the rest of us

that we're actually cutting this ridiculous spending. The Senate voting early, early, early Thursday morning, that would have been overnight last night, to claw back $9 billion in federal funding for USAID, for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, sending all of it back to the House. They made a couple of amendments to this thing. They did it with a 51-48 vote.

You'll notice the vote tally has changed ever so slightly. The reason for that is because Mitch McConnell finally voted yes on it. Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, well, they continued to be a pain, and they voted no on it. Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, well, they continued to be a pain and they voted no on it. Also, we had a Democrat Senator, Tina Smith of Minnesota was hospitalized last night.

She wasn't feeling well, so she didn't participate in the vote. But this thing happens, boom, it's off to the House. And they've only got till Friday. Guys, that's no time at all. Pass it today, get it done. If we get through all day tomorrow and the House doesn't send this thing off to the White House

and the President doesn't get a signature on it, well, that's over. That's over. So let's get all this done. Let's cut this spending. $9 billion is nothing. Let's just cut it. It's a small amount, but we got to do it. In fact, among the things that we are cutting here is funding for PBS.

How many years have you heard people calling for the defunding of PBS and NPR? Who is the president who is finally going to achieve it? Yeah, you've got the math right. President Trump finally doing this. Another win for him. That goes in the win column. Here is the PBS CEO this week, cut five, pretending that there is no left-wing bias going on at her insane network. I asked them for examples. People often struggle to come up with examples of what really they're talking about.

So we're always interested, obviously, in making sure that we're serving a multiplicity of viewpoints. You know, Bill Buckley made his home on public broadcasting with a series called Firing Line, which continues today with Margaret Hoover. We are interested in having different perspectives that we bring forward. But when I look at the range of our programings on public broadcasting,

I can't make any sense of an argument that we are somehow biased in any way. No, there's no way. There's just no evidence that PBS is biased. For instance, cut seven. This is definitely not evidence as President Trump gave a great speech at Mount Rushmore back in

2020. Very patriotic. This is not evidence at all of PBS being insane and biased. A celebration of America's independence on land that was stolen from Native Americans and it's over and it's being seen and overlooked by two presidents, their figures rather, that owned slaves.

And a third president in Roosevelt, who talked about going westward and who oversaw the desecration of native lands. That's why you saw so many people in this country, especially people of color, look really, really disturbed when the president and then candidate Trump started saying, make America great again.

He's really fitting in this, this history that is in some ways a Republican history about the idea that they're really looking at white resentment and giving people who are worried about the future of America, but who are also angry at the idea of America Browning and giving them a place to say, you know what, you are the victim. This country owes you more. How poisonous is that chick? I don't want to fund her anymore. No more funding to that lady. Luckily we're cutting it off.

No more federal funding to her or any of the poison that she's spreading. Did you hear her at the end of that say that, it's the Republican idea to advance this racial resentment? I'm sorry, what? The Republican party was started to end that, to end slavery. It's the party of liberation. It's the party of abolition. It's the party of liberty.

The Democrats have been defined throughout their entire history by their judgment of other people on the basis of their immutable characteristics. Their exploitation of human beings on the basis of their immutable characteristics. Spare us your lectures, stupid. And we're not spending any more money on you. That's the good news here. So yes, there's more than enough evidence of PBS being completely out of control.

Senator John Kennedy has a special way of delivering this type of information. Here he is doing it recently on the floor of the United States Senate. Cut six, John Kennedy. Here's another one. This came from Louisiana Public Broadcasting. Becoming Papa, Father's Key to Gender Justice.

I can tell you that every mom and dad in Louisiana, when they lie down to sleep at night and they can't, they're lying there worried about gender justice. Gender justice. Not. That's not fair or balanced. Here's another one. Transgender athletes seek protections to play sports.

To cheat. To cheat. Transgender athletes seek protections to play sports. No, it's for men to cheat in women's sports. PBS has been the propaganda broadcast service and they've been pushing that garbage and you've been funding it against your will. And I know just like me for years, we've been saying,

now, why are we finding this defund, defund, get rid of it, stop it. It's finally happening Thank God the United States Senate finally getting on board with the easiest possible Spending cuts and for those of you in the chatter saying to yourself or perhaps saying to the rest of us Vince nine billion dollars Okay, that's Trump change. I want so much more. What about the Doge cuts? What about all the other stuff that we need to cut? Yeah, I'm right there with you I've been pounding that drum like crazy.

Understand what this is. This first $9 billion is merely a test of whether or not Congress has the testicular fortitude to do this job again. And right now, even with this cut, they're not proving themselves to be all that worthy of this mission. That it should not have been a struggle

to cut the garbage you just heard from John Kennedy. That should have been the easiest thing in the world. And yet it was a fight to even get it to this point. The House gonna take this thing up and we'll get this easy spending cut done. More spending cuts ahead. Russ vote is in the OMB, the Office of Management and Budget at the White House.

They're clearly thinking about good strategies for more cuts here. But we may have to figure out a way to exclude Congress from this process. And the White House, they've got a plan for that. They've got a plan for that. We've talked about it a lot here. But this is crazy to deal with, crazy to deal with. But PBS rightly getting some funding cuts here.

Another thing I wanna get to today, I've got some great congressional footage actually. There was a hearing yesterday on all of the the so-called charities who've been trafficking human beings into the United States for years. Once again, at your expense, at my expense, at taxpayer expense, and among the guests yesterday from the Oversight Project was Mike Howell.

And then from the Blaze was a great reporter called Julio Rosas. I want to start there. Julio Rosas sits down to give congressional testimony yesterday and absolutely rips Democrats a new one for the way that they exploit illegal aliens in the United States. Cut three. Take a look. Our boy Julio. I'm here testifying today as a proud Latino, but most importantly, I'm here as an American citizen. This is my country, this is my home, this is where I grew up in. And that is why the rhetoric coming from one side

of the aisle about these operations saying, no, no, no, we gotta keep our cheap labor so that we can maintain our standard of living proves that they wanna view Latinos simply as a underclass to siphon votes from, fear monger from every time that there's an election. They're content with keeping us as that servant underclass. And that is why it is disgusting to see them criticize that recent raid in Ventura County, where they found unaccompanied minors working alongside convicted sex offenders at a cannabis farm.

No, we got to keep them there because or else how else are we going to get high if we can't have unaccompanied minors harvest our weed? Oh, what did I say? What did I say? It's the same thing. You heard it from the PBS lady before she inverted all of this It's Democrats who do this Democrats who want to exploit people on the basis of their race who want to take advantage of them? Who want to use them to pad their electoral power in the United States and want to use them as their servants and the last Thing they want is some Republican to come along and once again take away their slaves. That's the whole game here. Julio Rosa is doing a great presentation yesterday before the Congress. You look at me and you see Latino. I look at me

and I see American and I don't want people to be exploited no matter who they are, is what Julio said. Julio's a good man. Julio's a Marine by the way. He's served his country in all sorts of ways. He's been in the mix covering a lot of these riots that the left is often responsible for across the country. And there he is testifying before Congress yesterday as to what he has seen. He would go on to say,

by the way, Antifa is not merely an idea, it's a terror organization, and he's seen it firsthand. That's for sure. Mike Howell from the Oversight Project also had this, this great moment yesterday. He started in his opening statement yesterday, cut four, Mike Howell was ripping the Democrats

for inciting terror attacks against ICE agents. And he got so over the target that the ranking member of the committee, Benny Thompson, he comes flying in to try and disrupt it. Take a look. I especially thank you for giving me a platform to plead with members of this body, all on the Democrat side, to stand down on their threats against the men and women of immigration and customs enforcement. The violence is getting out of control and it is fueled by the demagoguery of politicians. Whether it is one of your members telling Axios

that there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public, another saying civility isn't working and to prepare for violence, or even a member of this committee being arrested for forcibly impeding and interfering with federal officials, this escalation deserves condemnation

it needs to stop and it needs to stop now assaults against ICE officers are up over 830 percent and that's a lowball estimate. There have been violent incidents in Alvarado, McAllen, Portland. The gentleman suspend briefly. Yes, Mr. Chairman. So I got a point of order. Listen to this. Pursuant to clause 2K8 of rule 11. What? I raise a point of order that this testimony is outside the scope of the hearing.

I would object to that position, Mr. Chairman. That's absurd. I would object as well. Man has a right to these five minutes of testimony. Clearly, the Democrats don't want to hear truth. That's right. Good for you. Holy cow. So Democrats getting absolutely filleted and rightfully so. Benny Thompson raising a ludicrous objection.

It reminds me of, what was the movie? Liar, Liar, when Jim Carrey raises his objection and the judge asks him on what grounds. And he goes, because it's devastating to my case. It's devastating to my case. And what Mike Howell was doing yesterday was devastating to the lies that the Democrats have been telling on this subject.

So Benny Thompson dives in front of it like a secret service agent trying to protect a protectee. In this case, the protectee is the corrupt Democrat party. Got to dive in front of this bullet. There he goes. So he raised his objection. He tried to shut it all down yesterday. Amazing, really amazing.

And good for Mike Howell, good for Julio Rosas, two great Americans getting in there, mixing it up with the House yesterday. On this issue of immigration, you should know that there is an amnesty push afoot, including by some Republicans. And I want you on guard for this. And I'd like you, especially if you live in her Florida district, to really stay on her

about this. Congresswoman Salazar, Congresswoman Salazar is responsible today for, her name is Maria Salazar. She's responsible for a quote, bipartisan piece of amnesty legislation that's right now being introduced and if she gets her way shoved through Congress, here's our chance to not just shove it back, but to suffocate it.

Here is the squishy Republican, Maria Salazar, introducing this massive amnesty bill this week, cut nine. Take a look at this. They did break the law. They are illegals or undocumented, but they have been here for more than five years contributing to the economy. Those people, someone gave them a job and they are needed

because we need hands in order to continue being the number one economy in the world. So why don't we do something solomonic and let's break the baby into two. No path to citizenship in my law, no amnesty, no path ever, just bring them out of the shadows, make them pay a fine for seven years, that is billions of dollars to the treasury,

make them give us 1% of their salary over seven years, no federal programs, no health insurance, and then they can go back home for Christmas, they can come back, continue working, buying homes, paying taxes, and contributing to the economy. Okay, there's a lot going on here. Obviously she's presenting an amnesty package. She's saying that if you're here illegally there won't be consequences for you being here illegally. That is amnesty. I don't care what anybody else calls it or how they try to dress it up or what euphemism they tried and used to describe it

If you tell people that there will be no Consequences for actions that they took that are supposed to have consequences. You're granting them amnesty That's the effect of what Congresswoman Salazar and anybody else who signs on to this legislation are doing Democrats By the way are all over this they love this legislation. They're trying to push it right now. Also, she used an analogy there. She said, this is Solomonesque, referring to King Solomon, of course, from the Bible, suggesting that we can split the baby here.

Does anybody know the story of King Solomon and the baby? The baby in the story doesn't actually get split. King Solomon suggested that as a way to figure out who the true mother of the child was. In the end, the baby isn't split. The issue is resolved in total. That's the story of King Solomon. I don't know what she's even talking about.

She's like, let's chop up the baby. No, that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. The job here is to deport people who are here illegally and to encourage those who are, who don't want to be forcibly deported, to go back to their home countries. It's as simple as that. This amnesty thing is too crazy. And what she is not giving you on all of this is just a cold hard understanding of what this legislation would actually do. So here's Will Chamberlain at the Article 3 project and he posted this overnight. The basic way to understand Maria Salazar's amnesty bill is this. If you came into the country before Biden was inaugurated,

you get to stay. That's what the legislation says. If you came in before Biden was inaugurated, you get to stay. If you were under 18 when you came into the country, for any reason whatsoever, you get a four year path to citizenship. Now I've heard Maria Salazar do some of these press hits

in the last 24 hours. She keeps saying, there's no path to citizenship here. There's no path to citizenship. Now I've heard Maria Salazar do some of these press hits in the last 24 hours. She keeps saying, there's no path to citizenship here. There's no path to citizenship here. That's not true, that's a lie. There's a four year path to citizenship built into this if you were under 18 when you were illegally immigrating into the country, when you came in as an illegal alien. Regardless of age, you should not, cannot do that.

And yes, that's the fault of your parents for subjecting you to that in the first place. If you were over 18, you get what is effectively permanent residency with no path to citizenship and you don't have to pay payroll taxes. Will says, I'm not joking. The only deportable aliens are gonna be criminal aliens and aliens that came in under Biden.

Everybody else gets to stay. No, we're not looking for half measures here. We're not looking for amnesty here. So we are in the opening innings of the latest push for amnesty. And I need you to know about this so that you can shove it back, so that it never gets any advancement whatsoever.

Come into this country, violate our laws, be held accountable for that. It's as simple as it can possibly get. Let me also tell you one other thing about amnesties and the way they work. Even with this stipulation that, oh, if you came into the country before Biden was inaugurated,

then you get to stay and everybody else, you don't. Even that stipulation is the kind of gray area that is going to invite more illegal invasion into the country. Illegal aliens and illegal immigration is often defined by fraudulence, often. People who are coming into our country were throwing down their identifications south of our border before they came in so that the United States government couldn't establish their true names and countries of origins. What is that about?

What's about defrauding the United States government and creating whatever conditions necessary to stay here? So what's gonna stop people from summoning up fraudulent documentation to suggest that they were in the country prior to the inauguration of Joe Biden? Nothing, nothing. There will be people who are drawn into the United States. This crap is a magnet for more invasion.

Put it to bed now. Put it to bed now. They're trying to make it wake up. I don't want to. Back to bed with you, no more amnesty. And that's why I'm glad the big, beautiful law just passed. It contains border security and it contains deportations, but it does not contain an amnesty.

It is a generational victory. And I can tell why the president wishes more people would be talking about that, because it's a massive, massive win, and he definitely deserves credit for that. I'm glad to see it through. But no, no amnesty, we're not for that. All right, coming up, I've got some updated information on you for you rather on

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I think she might be on her way, so she's probably watching. She's probably staring at the phone, kind of keeping her eye on the show, making sure I'm not screwing things up too badly. The great Paula, she's the best. Hey, hey, Paula, says Rhonda. Hey, hey.

Okay, we've got a couple things to get to. Auto pen presidency.open presidency. Autopen presidency. This past week we had a bunch of testimony or what we should have had was testimony from Biden officials who were supposed to give us the real details on okay who was actually running the presidency. As you know last week Dr. Kevin O'Connor shows up to Congress, and then he pleads the fifth the whole time and says, I'm not telling you anything. I'm not telling you anything.

I plead the fifth. I don't want to incriminate myself. So that's how that went. That's the White House doctor for Biden. That's a close family friend. That's a business partner of the Biden family orchestrating a cover-up right there in front of Congress. The same thing happened again yesterday as Jill Biden's work husband,

Anthony Bernal, this is the chief of staff over there for Jill, the work husband. He's a guy who everybody agrees, yeah, he had a lot of power inside of this White House. He was kind of running the show in a lot of ways. Watch his testimony yesterday, cut one. Here's how that went. Mr. Bernal, did you ever advise President Joe Biden to pardon his son, Hunter Biden? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined

to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Mr. Bernal, was President Joe Biden fit to exercise the duties of the President? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Let the record reflect that Mr. Bernal has invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

Mr. Bernal, please be very clear. Are you declining to answer the question put to you solely on the ground that you believe the answer will incriminate you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question of the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination? I can represent that that is his intention. Yep, that's it. There's his lawyer saying,

yeah, we're not going gonna give you any answers here. "'Nothing, nothing. "'You're not getting anything out of us. "'So we don't wanna incriminate ourselves. "'The last thing we wanna do is tell you the truth "'so we're not going to.'" If this was a normal functioning presidency, how easy would it be to answer the questions?

Honestly. If there was nothing to hide, the easiest thing in the world would be, "'I was very proud of my time working with the President of the United States. He had maximum competence and he did the job and we were following everything as the Constitution lays out in Article 2. That's not what they're saying. They're saying, I played the fifth. I don't want to tell you the truth about all of this. Here's the other thing. On Friday, there was something of a little noticed, but very important piece of testimony by the Deputy Director of Oval Office Operations.

Her name is Ashley Williams. And Rachel Bovard at the Federalist has a fantastic piece on this subject today. But she highlights the fact that according to a source that is familiar with Ashley Williams' five-hour interview, she's an Ivy League-educated lawyer, by the way, she told congressional investigators over and over that she couldn't recall the following.

You ready for this? I'm gonna go through this list and you tell me how plausible it is that you can't recall the following items. She couldn't recall one, if she spoke with President Biden in the last week. You couldn't recall one, if she spoke with President Biden in the last week. If she spoke with President Biden in the last week. Now you tell me, is there any world where you would forget if you spoke to a current

or former president of the United States within the last week of your life? No, no, there's that's that's not possible. She's perjuring herself. Of course she remembers if she spoke with President Biden. That also seems to be true. Unless she's on a lot of drugs. Yeah, or yeah. Like a lot of drugs.

Justin suggested that it may be some sort of drugs she's on or whatever brain affliction Joe Biden has is transmissible. Maybe she picked it up and now nobody knows anything. Maybe that's the real story. Contentious. There's some sort of plague running through the Biden White House that's causing everybody to lose their minds. So she doesn't remember if she spoke with President Biden in the last week. She doesn't remember if teleprompters

were ever used for cabinet meetings. Come on. How could... I have no idea. Just no idea. She doesn't remember if there were any discussions about President Biden using a wheelchair. I'm telling you right now, if there were any discussions about President Biden using a wheelchair. I'm telling you right now, if you were the deputy director of Oval Office Operations, you would remember if it came up, if you needed to get a wheelchair for the president. You didn't remember, Ashley, if there were discussions about any cognitive tests for Joe Biden. She doesn't remember if she ever discussed a mental or physical decline of President

Biden. You know this is bullcrap. Most of us have worked inside of an office environment or with colleagues in some capacity. If Joe shows up to work with a limp and nobody knows what it is, why is Joe limping? It's the topic of office conversation. Why is Joe limping? What's going on with Joe? Somebody should ask Joe. Nobody thought to themselves, hey, I wonder if Joe Biden, who thinks that dead Congresswomen are currently alive and then shouts them out on stage, I wonder if he's having any mental decline.

That never came up in the office? Come on. She also doesn't recall if she ever had to wake President Biden up at all. She doesn't remember that. If she ever had to wake President Biden up at all. She doesn't remember that. If she ever had to wake President Biden up, again, a former president of the United States, you had to wake the president up in order to get him to do his job. I guarantee you not only would I remember that, I would remember it in vivid detail and I'd spend the rest of my life telling that story over dinner to let people know how much I had access to the president. I had to wake him up.

I saved the country basically. I woke the guy up. We had very important things to do. He was sleeping and I shook him by the shoulders and I said, sir, you got to wake up. We have a country to save. Oh yeah, I would remember that. And then she doesn't recall how she got involved

with his 2020 campaign. Now again, chat, if I were to ask you about the various jobs that you've had in your life, chances are you would remember the basics at least at how you arrived at them. What were your circumstances in life when you became the waiter at that restaurant? What were the circumstances in your life when you started stocking shelves at that location? Whatever it is, you would basically have that. When did you become a truck driver? What were the circumstances for that?

You know the answer to this? She wants us to believe she has no idea how she got involved with the 2020 campaign. She was just hit over the head and then all of a sudden she woke up, she's on the 2020 campaign for Joe Biden. What was? This is so crazy.

At any rate, they're digging him. And rightfully so. But that's some of the craziest testimony we've seen yet. And that deserves way more attention than it got. So that's why I'm giving it to you today. Coming up, I've got some more details on our effort to get through the deep state. The White House today, quite literally today, is expected to declassify two massive, massive documents that matter a great deal.

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formerly Amber Athey, now Amber Duke, and rightfully so. She's got a great husband, Mr. Duke. Amber Duke. Good to see you on the program. Great to see you, Vince. Thanks for having me. Okay, so the AutoPen presidency. I was just going over some of the details. These guys keep getting hauled into Congress. Some of them are pleading the fifth.

And then we get Ashley Williams, who can't recall if she ever had to wake the president of the United States up to do his job, she said on Friday. Where do you see all of this headed? This whole thing is insane, Vince. I mean, I don't know what's more disrespectful to the American people to suggest that you would be self-incriminating if you had to answer a question as to whether or not the president was mentally well and capable of doing his job, or to do what Ashley did and claim that she couldn't remember really basic details about her job,

such as whether teleprompters were being used during cabinet meetings, or whether she ever had to shake the president away to do his job. Unfortunately, I think if history is any guide, the Democrats will probably not have to face any real legal consequences to this. But I still think it's important for Republicans to keep the gas pedal down because they cannot just allow the Biden team to memory hold this and pretend that it never happened. This is arguably the biggest scandal in modern political history. A president who was functionally not the president, instead the country being run by rogue staffers, unelected bureaucrats. They have to remind people of this every single day so that they don't forget, because if

the Democrats had their way, they would they would just run away from this and pretend that it never happened. I mean the more you think about it the crazier it drives you because I just had it a moment ago but like the fact is if you had worked in a presidency and you were proud of the job you did that would be a really easy story to tell you wouldn't have to plead the fifth you would just straight-up say look he did a great job I was proud to work for him. And I hope Democrats get back into power again, or whatever it is you want to say. But that's not what they're saying, Amber. And this

pleading the fifth is highly suggestive of the fact that everybody knows the jig is up. Yeah, I think what is really important about this, and your point about them pleading the fifth under oath, is that there have been a number of Biden administration officials who publicly have been more than willing to say that they think that the president was fine, that there was nothing going on here.

There were a handful of people that came out after that debate against Donald Trump in June of 2024, who were saying that he just had a bad night or he had a cold or, you know, he didn't have the best night of sleep. But then when they get all of a sudden in front of Congress and they're doing it under oath where they are faced with a penalty of perjury if they lie to this congressional committee,

the tune has changed. Now all of a sudden it's not, no, the president was totally in control the whole time. I have to plead the fifth because I'm actually worried about going to jail if I say the wrong thing here. I think that tells you everything you need to know. There's also been more details that have come out

through this investigation that are particularly disturbing. The president actually coming out of hiding to give this interview to the New York Times, which I suppose they thought was going to clear things up and kind of put this issue to bed. But that is typically the case when Biden talks to the media. He made things infinitely worse. According to his timeline, the pardons that were granted at the last minute

before Inauguration Day for President Donald Trump on the night of January the 19th happened around 10 p.m. Are we really supposed to believe, Vince, that the president who was calling a brunch lid every day, whose typical public duties at the White House didn't extend beyond three or four p.m. was up at 10 o'clock at night directing his staff to prepare and sign burdens? And then in the New York Times interview we also learned that there was a game of telephone going across three different groups of staffers, where President Biden allegedly told an aide that he wanted to do the

pardons, the aide then going to the individuals who would draft the pardons, then they would go back to the staff secretary who would use the auto pad, and then the pardons would go over to the DOJ. So the chain of custody here is another issue where it's not clear that the president ever gave the final sign off before those documents were signed with the auto pen, which is really the heart of the issue. Not only is it, was Joe Biden aware of the pardons,

but they can't produce any evidence whatsoever that Biden gave the final sign off before that digital signature was used on these documents, which is where the legal issue really comes in. Yes, the trust me bro chain of custody. So I saw that there was Rachel Bovard over at the Federalist this week. It has suggested that what needs to happen

is we need a January 6th style investigation into this. We need a January 6th style committee in the Congress. Would you support that? Do you think that's a good idea that Congress have a January 6th style committee to hover over all of this? Yes, it sounds amazing. Look, when they decided to, the Democrats that has decided to go after Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro and throw them in jail for refusing to testify to what was a weaponized partisan committee where the Republicans were not even allowed to make their own choices as to who would sit on that committee. They did not exercise the same powers as the majority. You had Navarro and Bannon claiming executive privilege, which the Democrats rejected, and then throwing them in jail. Republicans turned around and

during the Hunter Biden investigation did not hold him accountable for refusing to appear for a subpoena. In fact, a member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, decided to coordinate with Hunter Biden to have this big press conference on the steps of the Capitol while he was actively defying a subpoena. And Republicans did nothing. They behaved spinelessly. If there is a scandal that is worthy of them exercising their power to the fullest extent that they have it in Congress to expose what really happened, this is it. But don't count me among the people that believe Republicans will actually follow through

on those threats because we have seen time and time again, as I'm sure we're gonna get into the rescissions package, that Republicans love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That's their MO. They like to be the minority party. They like to complain. They like to whine.

But when they have power, they like to deflect and choose not to use it. Yeah, okay, let's move to rescissions. I mean, I think the theme among all of these is that we have to browbeat them into submission just to get them to do even small good things for us. The Senate last night did pass through $9 billion in cuts that the president had requested.

That includes the USAID projects, NPR, PBS. What do you think the lesson here is from just how arduous this process was? This was a test case, and sources that I talked to you on the Hill made that very clear. They said, look, the White House sent us this rescissions package. It's a small drop in the bucket of total spending. It's filled with woke nonsense.

It should be a no brainer. If we can't get this passed, then the White House isn't going to bother sending us any more spending cuts. They're trying to make sure that this is possible. And yes, technically, it passed the Senate late last night, but they stripped out $400 million in cuts on what should have been very obvious spending cuts. Of course you had Murkowski and Collins and Mitch McConnell ultimately voted for it, but expressed some opposition during the procedural processes,

because they were worried about this program PEPFAR, which has really been, I think, one of the golden geese for the Democrats and the moderate Republicans of why spending cuts aren't achievable or shouldn't happen. They have been really telling a lot of half-truths about what the program actually is. It was started as an emergency program that was intended to help with the massive spread of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa in the 1990s and early 2000s. Like most government programs do, ended up becoming this perpetual slush fund. It expanded greatly beyond this emergency medicine and treatment and prevention

program to doing things like LGBT education and a whole host of other left-wing social engineering in Africa. The cuts would not have even really substantially impacted PEPFAR in terms of them providing life-saving medicines. It would have reduced the overall budget from about $4 billion down to $3 billion. That was too much, apparently, for these moderate Republicans. Even when the program got moved under the purview of the State Department, it was still operating at 86% of its previous capacity. And yet all over the media, we heard repeatedly that Trump was ending PEPFAR. So these are the type of lies that the left tells and that moderate Republicans glom onto in order to prevent any spending cuts from happening. So the fact that this became the hobby horse of Murkowski and Collins during this first rescissions package

sort of test case, I think doesn't bode well for what's coming down the pipe from the White House. Maria Salazar, a Congresswoman down in Florida has introduced today an amnesty package to try and allow illegal immigrants to stay in the country despite the fact that they broke our laws. Democrats are on board with this. Maria Salazar is out doing all the media rounds right now, pushing it really hard.

Already this morning, I'm telling people this is crazy. This is a pathway to citizenship and it's going to be a magnet for more illegal immigration into our country. These things always are. What do you think of this? And what are the chances that this thing has real legs? I think the Trump base will revolt if they catch wind of this. If there's any indication that the president is interested in this moving forward, there's

going to be hell being raised. The same way that there was when Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy started floating the idea of expanding the H-1B visa program. And then Trump himself has been sort of flip-flopping on this idea of giving a pass to illegal immigrant farm laborers and restaurant workers. He has suggested that he has some plan to exempt them from the mass deportation operation. Then he walks that back. Now Tom Homan, the border czar, is saying on CNN that apparently the plan is still in motion. But I think Trump does respond to his base.

And if people show that they're not interested in amnesty, not interested in exemptions for the mass deportations, he will ultimately listen. But this is so typical. There's so much revisionist history happening related to what was sold to the American people in the 2024 election. Mass deportations is what we were told. Mass means mass, right? That means everybody.

And yet you hear these Republicans saying, well, when he said mass deportations, he really just meant the people who came in underations, he really just meant the people who came in under Biden or he really just meant the criminal illegal aliens as if we don't have eyes and ears and as if we didn't go into the voting booth knowing exactly what we were checking that box for. It's actually disrespectful to the American people to treat them as if they're so stupid that they don't understand words that come out of their presidential candidate's mouth. All right, Amber Duke, thank you very much for joining us.

They appreciate you, especially as we roll through some technical hiccups, but you're the best. We'll have you back really soon. Thank you, Amber. Thanks, Vince. Good to have you on the program today. All right, let's see what we're dealing with here. Look, I've got to, I want to get to what's going on with classified information.

It's super important and you've got these reports. John Solomon earlier this week has indicated that there is a grand conspiracy investigation going on in the Federal Bureau of Investigation right now. A grand conspiracy investigation. This goes all the way back to 2016 and the Hillary Clinton operation to claim that President Trump was colluding with Russia. The entire Obama administration, of course, got in on the act. And by now, you know most of the players

and most of the chapters of this disgusting saga that we've all had to live through and that President Trump was the target of. Now the FBI thinks that they may be able to build a legal case to go after all of it. John Solomon's been saying this week that that will require the President of the United States to declassify two gigantic tranches of information

that are in the possession of the government right now. And he said that he believes the president is inclined to do it. We got an update on that saga last night. The president of the United States speaking to John Solomon and just the news. Here he is cut eight saying, yes, I am going to declassify these Russia gate documents. Look at this. Would you declassify the classified annex in the Hillary Clinton email case as Senator Grassley has been asked in? Well, I would do that. Would you declassify the classified annex in the Hillary Clinton email case

as Senator Grassley has been asked in? Well, I would do that. I would do that, absolutely. I think it should be looked at. The whole thing was a scam. And I would do that gladly. Great, and there's one other one so I want to mention.

In the Durham report, they talk about the Clinton plan intelligence, the intercept where Hillary Clinton approves hanging that Russian shingle on your campaign house. That's another one that hasn't yet been declassified. Was that another one you'd consider declassifying? I would declassify it, yeah. Why not? I would absolutely declassify it.

All right, there's the president saying, yes, we're going to declassify. Yep, I'll do it. Yep, I'll do it. Now, saying that, I have a feeling that the White House put him on that interview, they set this interview up, just so he could address that question in particular. They wanted him to say that

because it looks like we could get those documents as early as today. Let me go now to, this is Paul Sperry has a report up from Real Clear Investigations, phenomenal journalist. This is overnight last night, exclusive secret meeting opens document floodgates on Trump and the Russia hoax.

Paul Sperry says that the floodgates that have been holding back all of these long buried classified documents, exposing the government's efforts to claim that Trump conspired with Putin to manipulate the 2016 presidential election might finally be opening. Trump officials on Sunday held an urgent meeting, an urgent meeting to discuss new information on Russiagate, which they might use to build a criminal conspiracy against

Obama and Biden administration political appointees who weaponize the government against Trump. That's according to two Trump officials speaking to Paul Sperry over at RealClear Investigations. The documents are said to contain very long classified information. This includes a secret 200 page congressional audit that reveals details about how the intelligence community assessment on Russia that was ordered by President Obama after the 2016 election was framed in a way that portrayed Trump as beholden to the Kremlin.

In other words, it included the Steele dossier. Sources also told Paul Sperry that emails and other records tying the CIA's controversial drafting of that assessment to the FBI's discredited crossfire hurricane investigation could be released as a part of a office of the Director of National Intelligence Report. As early as today, the White House was briefed on these developments

on Tuesday, the sources said. The participants in this meeting on Sunday involved intel officials and their Department of Justice counterparts. I'm gonna go ahead and guess that that includes the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They also discussed declassifying investigative notes and depositions taken by special counsel John Durham during his probe of the CIA and FBI

and their handling of all of this. So let me make it really clear here. I don't think that the John Solomon question and answer portion that we just played for you, and that took place last night on Just the News, I don't think that that's in any way a mistake. I think that that was essentially a choreographed rollout by the White House. The White House meeting with intel officials on Sunday, they knew they had all of this information coming out.

John Solomon earlier this week reporting that there's a grand conspiracy investigation going on right now into all of the absolute tyranny of the last decade. They believe that that Jack Smith raid on Mar-a-Lago that happened in Florida, is a part of the grand conspiracy. And if that's the case, they can impanel a grand jury in Florida

and the statute of limitations concerns that they have about going back to 2016, they're erased. The way a conspiracy works is the statute of limitations begins running from the last overt act of the conspiracy. And if the raid in Florida is considered that, well, we're still within the statute of limitations, baby, and we can go back a long time to go after these people. Now, I'll reiterate something that I think I've said here on this program, certainly on the radio

show before. I've seen a lot of investigations get started. I've seen a lot of planes take off, but I haven't seen any planes really of meaning land. And so I'm not here to tell you that this is the beginning of something that's gonna serve us up a bunch of scalps on a silver platter. I'd be foolish to even assume something like that would happen. In fact, at this point I should probably assume that maybe this will go nowhere in the end, but I do think it's important when the President of the United States and the White House and the Intel community believe, and the FBI in particular, led by Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, believe that they may have uncorked

one of the most important investigations ever. This goes back to something I've been saying about Dan. There was all that drama over whether or not Dan was gonna continue to work at the FBI, whether or not he was gonna continue to be the deputy director there, whether or not his relationship with Pam Bondi had reached a level that wasn't gonna work anymore.

All of that, all of that playing out in the public. Dan wasn't doing that, that was just playing out based on all sorts of leaks and everything else. There's a reason Dan is still in that job. Dan doesn't need it. It's not a resume enhancement. He doesn't get any benefit from being in it except for this one thing,

being able to help the country in a meaningful, measurable way. And my belief, knowing Dan, my belief knowing this guy, is that he is staying there in order to achieve measurable results. If this is it, if it's taking down the grand conspiracy that has so upended our country,

well then, I can tell you right now, not only will I consider that worth it, not only do I suspect you will consider that worth it, but I know that Dan is gonna consider that very worth it to be able to do that. It's a big thing. It's a very, very big thing. So, you know, I know a lot of the media not on this track right now. What's going to happen though is if it does emerge today that the White House declassifies these documents, the legacy media will suddenly become aware of what you and I have been talking about,

and then they will set about trying to destroy this story. They will. It's what they always do. The version I expect that they're going to fire with is, this is old news, and President Trump is reliving old things that don't matter anymore. They're going to try to convince you this is old. It's dead and gone.

Let's move on. Trump is just trying to relive old grievances. Don't let them do it. Don't let them dictate this. It's a classic Clinton tactic, actually, to come out and say that a scandal that really does matter doesn't because of how old it is. That's a Clinton tactic, actually, to come out and say that a scandal that really does matter doesn't because of how old it is. That's old news, they would say. And then the media would dutifully repeat it, and then they would refuse to talk to

their audience in any detail about what was really going on. Can't fall for it. Just can't fall for it. So this is a very big case. Also, the president did say last night when he spoke to John Solomon, he is open to a special counsel to hover over all of this, you know, whether it's the grand conspiracy. He also said last night that the Epstein case

should be considered too. He said, take a look at that. A special counsel should look into what he described as the hoax of the Epstein case, release any credible information that comes from it. But remember the president's hesitancy, and I think it's really important to pay attention to what the president's been saying on this subject.

He says that there is clearly some sort of hoax going on that is out of our sight, out of our sight. And I think there's a really obvious takeaway from all of this. If there was credible information that genuinely existed that could hurt Trump and the Epstein stuff, that had existed while Joe Biden was occupying the office, the left would have released it. But we've seen what happened with the left when they get control of the levers of power. Would they ever cook up a Trump-Russia collusion hoax?

Yeah, they would. They would. Top to bottom, they would. Would they ever cook up a hoax to fuel felony convictions in New York against President Trump in a case that nobody would ever bring in real life? Yeah, they would. Would Alvin Bragg cook up a hoax? Yes, he would. Will Letitia James cook up a hoax? Yes, she would. Would Fannie Willis cook up a hoax? Yes, she would. Would the Biden administration cook up a hoax to try to salt the earth ahead of the arrival of a Trump administration? Definitely. So when the president keeps pointing, as he has been in the last especially 72 hours, to

this theory of an Epstein hoax saying that hey there's a hoax going on in the midst of all of this, he's giving you a heads up that once again the left is trying to cook up something destructive and he doesn't want it to happen again He's been through it too many times And I so I think it's it's highly reasonable to respect his judgment here And to and to take a close look at it and to examine what he's actually saying on the subject Which is always always an important way to approach all of this. Hey guys, I'm grateful for you as always This is the best audience in media.

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