The Dan Bongino Show - Is Justice Coming For Hunter Biden? (Ep 1868)

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

In this episode, I address the real reason the Hunter Biden “is going to be indicted” story leaked to the media right before the midterm elections.  News Picks: Twitter explodes over news federal agents have enough to file charges against president's son. Justice Department Targets Pro-Lifers Again. California students learned no math in two years, yet Gov. Newsom wants to be president. Forbes goes after me for daring to ask questions about potential nuclear war. Copyright Bongino Inc All Rights Reserved Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino be really really cautious about this hunter biden is going to get indicted story i've got a theory on what's really going on and it's not good very cautious on that apply the bongino rule it'll always work to your benefit. Today's show brought to you by ExpressVPN. Privacy online, it's a right, not a privilege. Get a VPN. Go to expressvpn.com slash Bongino today. Welcome to this Friday edition of the Dan Bongino Show.

We always love Friday. Loaded show for you today. We'll start off with the Hunter Biden bombshell yesterday, whatever you want to call it. You know, I hate that word. And you think media and big tech learned a lesson after the Hunter Biden fiasco about this Nord Stream pipeline story too? Like maybe we should get the information out there before World War III starts? No, no, they haven't learned the lesson at all. I'll prove it to you.

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Yes sir it is It's a date night for me too I get to relax a little bit tonight Kind of chill out with the lovely Paulita We'll cover that in another show But more importantly let's get back to the most important story Du jour Broke last night actually

Be very cautious about this Story leaked out that apparently some federal agents Let's get back to the most important story du jour. Broke last night, actually. Be very cautious about this. Story leaked out that apparently some federal agents got a hold of the media and said, we are this close, just this close, folks, to a Hunter Biden indictment. Of course, you know Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, the crack addicted or formerly crack addicted. I don't know where he is with that now. I wish him the best.

It's a horrible thing to live with. But crack addicted, sex addicted son who is globetrotting, scoring a bunch of deals for him, his uncle and apparently his dad, the big guy. Now, be really cautious about this, Lee. I think there's a couple things going on. I see two possible scenarios. Why? Right before a midterm election, someone would leak out that Hunter Biden is this close to being indicted. Before we get to it, I want you to hear Harmeet Dhillon, who is an excellent attorney and a diehard conservative. Here's Harmeet Dhillon on Laura Ingraham's excellent show on Fox last night describing the situation. She has some good points here. Check this out. There are absolutely double standards at the DOJ and the FBI, depending on whose ox is being gored. And so, again, what the Biden family, not Hunter Biden, but Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, Joe Biden are accused of doing credibly is very big and is international in scope.

And so I think that nothing is going to end up happening here. It would be a gift to the Biden family if Hunter Biden were offered the ability to plead to a couple of minor offenses and pay some money. This needs to be pursued. It needs to be pursued by the House if Republicans take back control. And we need to see justice done in this case because we are like the Ukrainian money flowing in the billions right now. I think you have to look at the ties of the Biden family to corrupt activities in that part of the world that you would be a fool to ignore those facts. Yeah, you would be a fool. But if you notice the information that leaked was that Hunter Biden was potentially going to be indicted, Joseph, for tax violations and lying on a gun purchase form.

That's interesting. Doesn't mention anything about foreign agency registry, foreignistration Act, FARA violations. You know the thing they investigated Mike Flynn for? Because if you were investigating Hunter Biden for his dealings with foreign agents and representing foreign entities himself without registering as one, Foreign Agent Registration Act, then maybe that would involve Tony Bobulinski, their business partner in their foreign deals. And maybe that would involve Tony Bobulinski, their business partner in their foreign deals. And maybe that would involve Joe Biden too, because Bobulinski said Joe Biden was involved in this as the quote chairman, which would mean you would have to talk to Joe Biden

about Bobulinski and the foreign business deals. Gosh, that seems weird. That was left out. Stand easy. I'll get to that too. There's a lot in this little cut. stand easy. I'll get to that too. There's a lot in this little cut. Harmeet's very smart. She says also something very important. She's like, I predict nothing's going to happen. They're going to offer some kind of a sweetheart deal. Ding, ding, ding. The verdict is in. I predict Harmeet Dhillon is absolutely correct. Here are my two possible scenarios here, because they are going to do everything they can to protect the crown. They are going to protect the crown, Joe Biden, no matter what. Merrick Garland is a hack. He's always been a hack. He doesn't have a shred of personal decency or dignity.

He, of course, is the attorney general. I'm sorry, but there are liberals listening. I have no idea who that is. He is ultimately going to make the charging decision. It's supposed to be left to the deputy attorney general. Please, please stop. Please. You know for a fact they're not going to leave this decision to the deputy attorney general involving President Biden's son. It's going to go right to the most political person

in the Justice Department, Merrick Garland, who heads it, who is a total liberal hack. Do you really believe Merrick Garland's seeking justice here? Let me tell you what Merrick Garland is really seeking. He is seeking a way out of this for President Joe Biden so he doesn't have to go under oath and get deposed. Bingo. Period. Thank you. Here are the two scenarios. Sorry, I said I should have just got right to the point. DOJ either drops the case, which I see is unlikely, but possible. Garland is that much of a hack. DOJ just drops it. Or scenario number two, Harmeet Dhillon's point that there is a sweetheart plea deal that Hunter Biden takes where he pleads out to a tax and think it pays a fine for back taxes,

does no jail time at all, and pleads guilty to lying on the farm. Now, here's the problem with number two. The problem with number two, the plea deal is apparently, according to the leaker and according to others, Hunter Biden was already offered a plea deal and turned it down. Why? Because he's a moron. Keep in mind, gents, this is not a smart move. You're not doing your stretching routine this morning. You're just doing it. It's really surprising.

Oh, you did it before you came up here. OK, I'm just I'm just asking. He was a stretchy routine. Keep in mind, Hunter Biden. Guy is a very smart guy. Hunter Biden's a moron, okay? Guy, Hunter Biden. Guy, Hunter Biden.

Hunter Biden doesn't warm up in the morning before the show. Well, I take that back. He may warm up a different way, if you know what I mean. That's a whole different story. Hunter Biden's an idiot. He tapes himself smoking crack

and negotiating with prostitutes. Folks, I'm not kidding. Maybe an idiot's kind of too harsh and maybe the the um the hyperbole there kind of you lose the point this is clearly a suboptimal intelligent human being what smart person whose father was the vice president, a prominent U.S. senator, a potential candidate for president, a candidate for president, and then president, records himself negotiating with hookers and doing crack? Is this hard? This guy's an idiot. So the fact that he already turned a plea deal down shows you what an arrogant hothead moron this guy is. Now, I can be kind of a hothead, but I'm very risk calculating. I've always been.

This is a stupid person, which leads me to believe, let's go back to number one, the two options. DOJ drops the case. Let's game this out because we're not dumb like Hunter Biden. Game it out. Let's use reason. They're either going to drop it or offer him a sweetheart deal. If this guy's too stupid to take the deal, which he should take, embrace, love, and kiss it. No, not too much. It's Hunter Biden. And he refuses. You put Merrick Garland in a bad spot. Now, think ahead. You think Hunter Biden's lawyers at least don't know that? All right, our guy's an idiot. He's not going to take this sweetheart deal. They know they're not going to have Biden to get deposed under oath if this thing goes to trial. They know that. So, Joe, here's what I think the lawyers are saying. All right,

we're dealing with a moron client. This is the hand we were dealt. We got a pair of twos. The other guy's got a full house. The best we can do is bluff, not take the deal, knowing Merrick Garland is a hack in service to his dad, Joe Biden, and it's going to force Garland to drop the case. Now you may say, oh my gosh, that wouldn't happen if Merrick Garland, we're getting like deep in the week. This is important. This is only the biggest case right now over time, right? You may say to yourself, no way Merrick Garland would drop the case.

The lawyers are playing with fire there. Folks, the same people said, all right, no way they would actually raid the president's house over a document dispute, right? Not like that happened. Be really, really cautious about this story. Okay. So where would we have been? Two scenarios. DOJ drops the case, sweetheart plea deal. If a plea deal is rejected, it forces Garland to drop the case. I want to move on to another point on this. The leak about what they are indicting him on or going allegedly to indict him on, we don't know that yet, right? It's about taxes, back taxes he didn't pay,

and about this lying on the gun form where he said he had no problem with drugs or whatever. Folks, I can't emphasize enough that it's clear they left out the foreign agent portion of it, where Hunter Biden was acting on behalf of a foreign agent and failed to register, right? They're leaving that out for a very strategic tactical reason. Hunter Biden's foreign agent dealings with Moscow and China, according to their business partner, Bobulinski, he alleges Joe Biden was part of it, knew about it. Of course, Joe Biden would be brought in. They are desperately trying to protect the crown here. Remember the Foreign Agent Registration Act rules. Ladies and gentlemen,

because we do facts here, unlike the losers in the media, It is not illegal to lobby on behalf of a foreign agent, period. It is a free speech issue. If you want to lobby on behalf of the Uyghurs' plight in China, that is perfectly legal for you to go in and meet with a congressman and say, Congressman Jones, the Uyghurs are being tortured in China. I want to speak out on their behalf. That is a First Amendment issue. I'm sorry if this sounds basic, but I'm telling you there are liberals who really don't understand this. This is where they went wrong with Mike Flynn.

And even though it involves Hunter Biden, there is nothing illegal about Hunter Biden lobbying on behalf of the Moscow mayor. Really, Dan? You're just refuting your own case. No, I'm not. But you cannot violate US law in doing so. Do you understand? If the law says that you have to register, like Farah says, Foreign Agent Registration Act, and you are being paid to do a task by a foreign agent and do not disclose that, that is not legal. It's pretty clear to me that these allegations have some meat to them about a FARA violation. They're letting it go because they don't, why would they not talk to Bobulinski? Tony Bobulinski, the business partner to Joe Biden, business partner to Joe and Hunter Biden,

has already said Biden was part of the deal and the FBI doesn't want to talk to him. Yeah, I mean, what? You've got this guy hook, line, and sinker. You're not interested? and sinker. You're not interested? Now, to motive. Motive always matters. Why would someone leak this story before the election? That's how I opened up. I was holding it to the end because it's critical. This is a theory. I'm putting it out there that I'm speculating. When I speculate, I'll tell you, but I'm speculating based on some good information here and some decent sources. I'm speculating based on some good information here and some decent sources. There's a limited number of people at the FBI and within the DOJ, and I mean limited. Sadly, a small number.

Working on something for my Fox show Saturday night, which you may not want to miss, 9 o'clock. There's a limited small number of people who've had enough of this crap. I wish the group was larger. I wish there were mass resignations within the FBI and DOJ to protest the tyranny. There's not. But there are people speaking out. I spoke to one of them on tape on this show, Kyle Serafin. There are others speaking out too.

Tune into my show. We'll see if we're at the end of a negotiation on that. I think someone within the FBI is tired of this BS. What does that have to do with the leak, Dan? They leaked it right before the election, knowing, number one, that it would get out there and circle right before the election and do damage to Joe Biden. So someone on the inside is angry at Biden. election and do damage to Joe Biden. So someone on the inside is angry at Biden. And point number two, they knew leaking it would lock Merrick Garland in. So now let's get really ready to go deep. You ready to go super deep into the weeds? Are you ready to get a tick? Burrow, right? Start sucking the blood of the story. Hunter Biden's an idiot. Hunter Biden's lawyers know he's an idiot. Hunter Biden is a hard head. Hunter Biden's an idiot Hunter Biden's lawyers know he's an idiot

Hunter Biden is a hard head Hunter Biden's lawyers know he's a hard head And they know Merrick Garland and DOJ have only two options Drop it or plea deal One of the options is not actually get justice for Hunter Biden Okay, can we just put that to bed? Let's just throw that out You got to protect the crown

Drop it, sweet, or plea deal Hunter Biden's lawyers know Hunter Biden's a hard-headed idiot to bed. Let's just throw that out. You got to protect the crown. Drop it. Sweet our plea deal. Hunter Biden's lawyers know Hunter Biden's a hardheaded idiot and is not going to take a plea deal because he actually thinks he has a case. The guy's delusional. He smokes crack on camera. They know that by Hunter Biden, where it gets a little shaky, quaky, they know by Hunter Biden not taking the plea deal, it's going to force Merrick Garland to drop the case. Because they are not going to depose Joe Biden if the case goes forward. It's not going to happen. So someone in the FBI or an agent involved in this case, doesn't have to be the FBI, who leaked it.

In this case, doesn't have to be the FBI who leaked it. Someone knows that's a likely scenario and figures leaking it before the election. Makes absolutely sure that if Merrick Garland drops this thing before or after the election, everybody knows they were about to indict him when Garland dropped it. What do you think? Right. We must save the crown. God save the crook.

That's where I got, listen, not to get off topic, but before the show, Joe does a really good, because his band used to play it over in England. Joe does an amazing English accent. So he was doing it before the show and that's where I thought, protect the crown. This is what's happening. This has nothing to do with justice for Hunter Biden.

Please don't get into this. Oh, look, justice is coming. The left does that. They love stupid memes because they watch too many movies. Mueller's coming. Remember that? You guys remember that, Joe? Mueller's good. It was so stupid. Mueller. Mueller couldn't even testify and Capitol Hill went out sounding like a dunce. I'm not telling you justice is coming. I'm giving you six different layers or seven layers of game theory

as to what's going on and I'm pretty sure I'm right. Make one final point on this. There's some people out there, you know, suggesting that the leak is, you know, is somehow being orchestrated because they want, they're just preparing to dump the case. I was having a hard time following the logic. I don't buy that. A lot of smart people believe

that and that's fine. Everybody's entitled to their opinion, but leaking it right before the election. Again, you got a game theory. How does that in any way benefit the liberals? It doesn't. I see no benefit to this leak. I believe this leak was done by someone on our side. That I'm sure of. To lock Garland in. Now, if Garland drops it,

you knew there was going to be an indictment. If Garland would have dropped it and you didn't know that, you would have never known when he dropped it. It just would have been dropped. Oh, what happened to that case? I don't know. One more point on this. Finally, a cherry on top. This is another profound, dramatic humiliation for big tech in the media. We now know that a leaker on the inside who's been a confirmed source, has been reported by Fox and others. This is not some ham and egger, right? This is an actual source. It's now confirming there's enough information there to warrant an indictment. There is probable cause out there that Hunter Biden may have committed a crime. According to this source,

how embarrassing and humiliating for big tech who went on their programs, all of these people, these talking head losers, the Chuck Todd's, the joy reads the Brian Stelters and others. It's rough. It's disinformation. How dare you? How dare you do that? Influence and steal another election and accuse us of disinformation by actively promoting propaganda and agitprop on your network. And to the big tech losers that silenced the Hunter Biden story and interfered and stole another election in 2020, no one will ever forgive you for that. I don't think you care. Tyrants do tyranny, and that's what you do. Probably proud of yourself. I can imagine that you did. Power is your ultimate endgame. You got it. You got your guy elected. Whether you had to

cheat to do it is irrelevant to you. I'm just telling you, we know who you are, and please don't try to hide it anymore. You might as well embrace it. Tyrants do tyranny and you do it well. You think they learned a lesson from this? Wait till the story I get to next about World War III and what Biden said behind closed doors yesterday. Kind of an important story. Today's show brought to you by one of my favorite sponsors, my good friends at Brickhouse Nutrition.

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lessons, folks. The media's role in denying the ability for us to ask questions is just growing and growing. Now, tyrants do tyranny. The media is part of that. One of the benefits of living in a formally free country, formally free because we're not anymore. You run the risk of the FBI knocking on your door if you're a conservative. I'm not messing with you either, by the way, on any given Sunday. But one of the hallmarks of our formally free constitutional Republic is the ability to ask questions, to petition your government and to speak freely. As long as you're not violating the law. Correct. I thought that was the case. Folks. I've been asking questions a lot about the

Nord stream pipeline, the Nord stream pipeline, a pipeline from Russia to Germany. It was bombed. It is a critical pipeline to Russia. Uh, Russia is run by a terrorist and candidly a major a-hole who could cause and set off World War III. The guy is going to be single-handedly responsible for starting World War III because he's such a colossal scumbag. That doesn't require any kind of reiterating. Everybody already knows that. But ladies and gentlemen, I also live in a free country where I'm free to ask questions and you should be too. And that used to formerly be the role of the media. That's not their role anymore. The role of the media now is to make sure we don't ask questions.

Now, if you listen to this show, you know for a fact that we have covered this fairly. I've already given you multiple reasons why. Have I not, fellas? Why Russia would have bombed their own pipeline. Yeah. Vladimir Putin is backed into a corner. He is losing in Ukraine. He is not losing as badly, I think, as some people portray it,

but he is getting, put it this way, and let me make it simple. Vladimir Putin's original plan, we're going to storm Kiev, is just not working out, okay? Now there's some reports out there and some people in his inner circle are turning on him. The guy's in a lot of trouble.

He wants to detonate a nuke, but he can't detonate a nuke now because he's going to lose the PR war. He doesn't want to be the guy who started global thermonuclear war because he was backed into a corner. He wants to play the victim. You got it?

Everybody dig? The media is too stupid to figure this out So I'll get to why I'm talking about this in a minute It's not a boo-hoo story for me It's part of the business Vladimir Putin has every reason to bomb his own pipeline To make it look like he's the victim You're trying to economically starve us

You bombed our pipeline We ain't getting it, you get it? And I'm going to detonate a nuke to preserve mother Russia. Right, right. However, because I'm an actual reporter doing reporting, you have to keep in mind as well that Vladimir Putin and Russia owns 51% of said pipeline. So it'd be kind of bizarre to bomb your own pipeline too. but i don't eliminate the possibility that putin's crazy enough to do it for reasons just stated however there were other people with motivations to bomb the pipeline as well and i thought we were allowed to talk about that i

thought this was a free country with freedom of the press and for as much as i hate it i am a member of the media an opinion member but a member nonetheless united states am a member of the media, an opinion member, but a member nonetheless. United States has a lot of motives to do this too, or at the very least to wink and nod why someone else does it. There are green activists who have pushed for pipeline destruction in the United States. Fact. Joe Biden has publicly spoken out about having the ability to take out the pipeline fact joe biden's secretary of state tony blinken has spoken out about the strategic opportunity of bombing the pipeline fact we're not playing the clips again i don't want to waste your time i

played them twice it's enough they're there you can go look them up. Those are facts. Those are the things the media used to report on. Now, because we've done so, some loser at Forbes, Salata Ty Ray, forgive me for saying your name wrong. Trust me, it's not intentional. Salata Ty Ray, here's this guy. Take a look at this dude. He decided to write a piece at Forbes, again, calling this whole thing a conspiracy. He's a breaking news reporter at Forbes. Went to Columbia, Joe, so he's definitely smarter than you and me. I mean, we're all idiots compared to this. So Salata, he's got advanced degree.

He's very smart. We're all idiots. So he writes in his Forbes piece, attacking Tucker Carlson, for again, doing this crazy thing called reporting, where Tucker's been very clear that he doesn't know who bombed the pipeline. Just like, listen to me. Salada, I don't know.

I'm not in the intelligence community. I don't know bombed it. Hence, that's why I say, could be this, could be that. This is what's called reporting, you dunce. Of course, Salada, because he went to Columbia, doesn't know reporting. He only knows liberalism. He attacks Tucker Carlson and he attacks me, saying we're promoting the conspiracy theory. Since the Tucker Carlson thing, other prominent right-wing commentators like Dan

Bongino and Charlie Kirk have boosted the same conspiracy theory. I advanced the conspiracy theory? You have a representative of the media now, Salatada Ray, attacking me for asking the questions he refuses to ask, and we're promoting the conspiracy theory. Folks, why would I bring this up now? Yeah, I saw that. Why would I bring this up now? Well, according to Axios, last, you know, Axios, I'm in their morning email list. It's a pretty radical left-wing site these days.

Axios and Politico both led with this story this morning, which you would think someone like Salada de Rey at Forbes would be kind of curious about would start asking questions, Joe. Apparently Biden was at a fundraiser last night in New York and behind closed doors, he addressed the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And he said that the quote prospect of Armageddon is the highest since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. Wow. Whoa. That sounds like an interesting tidbit of information.

I would call that a BFD. A big deal. Strange how behind closed doors Biden talks like that. And these reporters like Salada DeRay don't seem even remotely interested. Biden went on to say, and this is a quote, Salada, which means Biden said it, that Putin is, quote, not joking when he talks about the potential use of a tactical nuclear weapon or biological or chemical weapons because his military is, you might say, significantly underperforming. Holy Joe, that sounds like something I said on my show.

Yeah. Sounds like something I just said just now that Putin's getting his ass kicked is in a corner and we shouldn't underestimate his ability to use nukes and that he may have used a self-detonation, self-sabotage effort on the Nord Stream pipeline to advance this cause because me and Biden said the exact same thing. So weird how when Biden says it, it's not some big conspiracy theory. And yet, when I include that same tidbit of information into a possible reason Putin would sabotage his own pipeline, Forbes attacks me as a conspiracy theorist. Really weird, Salatina. You must have learned that in J school at Columbia or whatever. Folks, silencing questions about a potential nuclear Armageddon.

President Biden's words, not mine. Armageddon, his words. Silencing questioning about nuclear Armageddon is just about the most anti-American thing I can think of right now. Why the media is a total embarrassment. And I am honored to have you here on this show where we talk openly and honestly about the upsides and the downsides of what our government does for us and against us. And what foreign governments do for us and against us. This is a lot of, what a joke.

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not the crack addicted, sex addicted son. The story is about his dad. And we just covered Big Tech's role in silencing questions about potential nuclear Armageddon. Joe Biden's own words, not mine. Never forget here, we're dealing with tyrants. I want to show you who these people are,

the media and the left. So you're not under any illusion that the idea of their kids being blown up by a nuclear weapon is going to change any of their behavior. Because some of you may be saying, and let me disabuse you with this notion right now. Oh, as this starts to get hot and DEFCON levels get higher and higher and higher, right? Or worse and worse and worse.

It goes the opposite way, right? DEFCON levels get worse and worse and worse. And we're on the brink of nuclear war. Liberals will definitely clean their act up and realize we got to stop enriching Putin. We have to start getting around and rallying behind America. That is not going to happen. Some of them would rather see a nuclear war. A limited number of these lunatics don't care about anything. Here's what I mean. Remember Jack Phillips? You probably remember the name. Jack Phillips was the baker

who just, he wasn't going to bake a cake for a gay wedding. He wasn't going to do it. Yeah, remember him, right? We've been covering this guy for five years. Joe, they will not leave this man alone. Still?

Yes, still. Jim sent me this story yesterday the radio show guy radio show producer he's like you believe this and he said exactly what you just said still they won't let this guy they will not leave this man alone you are dealing with lunatics. Jack Phillips won. It was a limited win in the Supreme Court, but won the right to be left alone temporarily by these people. That didn't happen. You're dealing with crazy people. Here, AP. Colorado baker Jack Phillips fighting ruling over a gender transition cake now. Wasn't enough for a gay wedding cake.

So they note that, here's the woman, by the way, Autumn Scardina. She called Jack Phillips suburban Denver cake shop in 2017, requesting a birthday cake that had blue frosting on the outside and pink inside to celebrate her gender transition. At trial last year, Phillips, a Christian, testified he didn't think someone could change genders and he would not celebrate someone who thinks that they can. You don't have to agree with Jack Phillips, but again, we used to live in a constitutional republic where Jack is free to one, practice his religion, and two, cannot be compelled to speak.

He considers his art via cakes, a form of speaking. And he's right. You can't force me as a content creator here to speak lovingly about your gender transition either, because you feel like it would hurt your delicate sensibilities. This is my art. Jack Phillips art or his cakes. you cannot force him to celebrate something he doesn't believe that violates his religion just like you can't force me but of course we don't

live in a constitutional republic anymore so this case which should have instantaneously been thrown out of course was taken to court now who is autumn scardinia You think, oh man, Joe, this is just some innocent person in the midst of a gender transition who just wanted a simple cake made. Yeah, okay. Here's part two. Scardina, an attorney, attempted to order her cake on the same day in 2017 that the Supreme Court announced it would hear Phillips' appeal in the wedding cake case. Scardina testifies she wanted to, quote,

challenge the veracity of Phillips' statements that he would serve LGBT customers. Ladies and gentlemen, with regard to the liberal left, I want you to understand what you're dealing with. You're dealing with people who are obsessed with the idea of force. Remember, totalitarians, socialists, communists, top-down people who believe in, you know,

power comes and originates from one point, the state. Fear is their currency. The only way to get people to give up their freedom to the state is to frighten them. Fear is their currency. Submission is their endgame. That is not what a constitutional republic is about, submission. To the left, that's all it's about.

They will never leave this man alone because they can't. if they if jack phillips wins wins this case then this one again they will there will be another lawsuit immediately do you understand to them process is punishment if they can't punish him by winning in court they will punish him by taking him to court for the rest of his life. They must torture this guy. They must show you that even a win is pyrrhic, that it's a loss when it's a win. They have to punish you. Submission is their end game. And in case you think, by the way, this has anything to do with equality and tolerance. Oh, we're just asking Jack Phillips to treat people honestly and all this and be tolerant. Nonsense. I want to make a couple points.

This is about force. This has nothing to do with religion. It's about force. The force continuum here works one way and one way only. You know what's weird, Joe? The last time we had this conversation, we were sitting in my basement, Smyrna Park, recording the podcast, and we had like 100 listeners where I made this exact point.

You can go back and listen on SoundCloud. When Jack Phillips originally was going to court. This is a one-way force street. Jack Phillips is not forcing Autumn Scardinia to do anything. He's simply saying, I'm not making this cake. You can't compel me to speak through my art and support your gender transition because I don't. Yet Autumn Scardinia is using the legal system to force Jack Phillips either into bankruptcy or to submission. Do you understand that? The force curve only goes one way. From the liberal left in the system to Jack.

Autumn Scardinia has a thousand options for a blue and pink cake. Probably a hundred thousand options if she goes online. Jack Phillips has no option to get out of the constant litany of lawsuits designed to make him submit. Don't ever forget that. Let me read to you this other case, too, because this is fascinating. It's obviously a two-pager today. If the left had any balls, which they don't, or any principles, which they definitely don't, left had any balls which they don't or any principles which they definitely don't i'll expect them in the coming days to speak out then against this muslim prisoner what muslim prison

what are you talking about well the left says that this is all about you know tolerance and how jack phillips must be forced to submit himself to the LGBTQIA lobby. He's got to be forced, Joe. It's about tolerance, man. We don't have to tolerate you. You have to tolerate us, and we'll force you to. Well, I'll expect him to condemn this man, too. If you're a principal, that is.

Did you read the story in the Wall Street Journal? Oh, this is a doozy, because the left has been really quiet about this, Joe. Kind of weird how they're not going after this Muslim prisoner. Strange. Wall Street Journal, weird. Muslim prisoner transgender strip search is the title of the article. Religious liberty laws protect everyone. And here's another example, but you don't hear anything from people on the left attacking this Muslim prison. What happened? Wall Street Journal says, you know, the left likes to pretend, likes to present religious liberty as a bigotry loophole for

intolerant white Christians. So it's worth highlighting another case that's an ideological scrambler. Last month, the federal appeals court ruled that a male Muslim prisoner in Wisconsin can have an exemption from strip searches involving a transgender guard who is biologically female. I haven't heard anything from the left attacking this Muslim prisoner. So strange. Right, Guy? Isn't that weird? So, he says, no, of course it's not weird because they're frauds. So, what happened is this Muslim prisoner, according to his religious beliefs,

which you don't have to agree with, but I respect. We live in a constitutional republic, or so we used to. He's not allowed to be touched by another female other than his wife. So what his religion says, respect it. Period. Full stop. Well, the biological woman touching him claims she is a man. And he says, no, you're not.

And you can't touch me. Well, he won. Yet it's just weird. I don't hear the left attacking him. I only see them going after white Christians like Jack Phillips. Strange, right? Fits their white supremacy narrative. There's no Muslim supremacy narrative coming from the left. Read David Horowitz's book, Unholy Alliance, and you'll figure out why that is. But you don't hear anything about this case. This is so strange. Yeah, yeah. Football coach, right.

They sued the football coach for praying after the game. Praying by himself. Students joined them voluntarily. They couldn't have that. But you don't hear anything about this guy. Muslim prisoner. What an enigma wrapped in a mystery. And let me just say for the record, because you owed my opinion. I am not Muslim. I don't practice Islam. I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ.

I respect everyone else's choice in religion because I do believe in liberty and freedom. And the Muslim prisoner is absolutely correct. do believe in liberty and freedom and the muslim prisoner is absolutely correct all right i got a great video coming up next um the canadian conservative opposition leader this is great pierre paul paul of paul levive i'm sorry pauliev sorry i always say his name pauliev uh pierre pauliev just going after after after blackface Justin Trudeau. It is classic. I got that. And then a quick note on Kanye.

And I'm going to have to get the questions. Damn, it ain't so much good stuff today. I'll cover it on a radio show. And if not on Monday. No, it's funny. I'm watching Fox right now. A cameraman walked in. You saw that?

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Canadian conservative opposition leader gets attacked on the floor there by Justin Trudeau, Mr. Blackface guy. And he was having none of it and came back and dropped this bomb on him this is classic check this out i condemn him for when he dressed up in racist costumes so many times he forgot them all we condemn it always mr speaker blackface. Good job. Good job. Okay. On a serious note, I want to get to this.

I got to get to that Wall Street Journal article about capitalism. It's so important. Kanye West was on Tucker Carlson last night in a really, I mean, it's in a bad way, but it's just a bizarre interview. It went all over the place. I think Tucker did his best.

It was an amazing interview. I think I would have taken the interview in a second. The guy's a cultural icon with serious political and cultural capital, but it was a bizarre interview. It was all over the place. And Tucker tried to rein him in, but he just, he he goes which is fine

i mean the guy's allowed obviously i'm a free speech advocate but i've got to tell you kanye west has some ideas because of his cultural capital that we really need to take seriously i did they're not profound ideas or ideas we've supported all along like supporting life but he said this about abortion and you should really take this to heart. Check this out. The lanyard is still on from it and there's a photograph on it. What is that? It's a photograph of a baby's ultrasound. Why is that? And then you designed that? Yes. Why? What does that mean? It just represents life and pro-life. Boy, so you wear it on a badge. What kind of response to you? And amen, I agree. I don't care about people's responses. I care about the fact that there's more

black babies being aborted than born in New York City at this point. That 50% of black death in America is abortion. So I really don't care about people's responses. I perform for audience of one and that's God. I'm sorry. I'm starting to see why they want to make you be quiet. Folks. Like I said, it's an interview worth watching.

It's a good one. It goes in a lot of different directions. Again, I don't mean that in a bad way. It's probably a bad way to describe it. I don't mean bizarre, like freaky deaky do. I just mean he,

he talks and says a lot of things. Some are non sequiturs, but they're worth hearing. Folks, the guy's a multi-billionaire and he's an extremely talented performer, Kanye West. Having said that, a couple of points on this, because I've seen a lot of commentary on social media about this interview. Ah, you're a conservative. Screw these guys. We don't need them. I hear the same thing when Bill Maher says something. I can't say this in forceful enough terms. I think you're absolutely wrong when you say that. I'm going to tell you why. I believe in strategy.

I believe in game theory. I believe in SWOT analysis. And I believe in moving the needle. The left has been smarter than us for a long time. You're right about the point that we should definitely not do idol worship. Bill Maher is not our friend. Kanye West is likely not our friend either. I don't mean that again in a bad way. I mean, they're probably not ideologically aligned with us on a lot of things. So there's no reason to engage in idol worship, which we don't do. But they have cultural capital you don't have. I'm speaking to an audience

of probably 35 to 40% of America that hears my show and says, hey, that guy's not crazy. Stuff he says sounds pretty good. The problem is 35 to 40% of America doesn't win elections. 51% does. So if there's another 15% out there or so that are independent in any given cycle and are persuadable and Kanye West talks to them and I can't, then I am an idiot to pretend I'm smarter than Kanye West with that regard and say, oh, shut your mouth. We don't need you. You're a loser. I'm going to use Kanye West and his defense of life, which I thought was very brave, to advance the cause of saving babies' lives. You don't have to, but you're making a big mistake because we're only talking

to 35, 40% of the population. That's a lot of people, but it's not enough. When Maher or Kanye or Matt Damon or whoever says something that aligns with a conservative cause that we can use to reach 10% of people to show them that the 35 and 40% us aren't crazy, I'm going to take it. And we're not crazy looking to save babies' lives. And Kanye West knows it. Use these people with cultural capital when you need them. Throw the idol worship to the side. The left does that. when you need them. Throw the idol worship to the side. The left does that, but don't ignore them. Don't create information asymmetries where the left uses influencers and people with cultural capital to move their needle towards death and pro-abortion, to use one example. And then when we get a counterexample using an influencer, we scrap it because we say we don't like influencers. using an influencer, we scrap it because we say we don't like influencers. There's a reason they're influencers. And politics is a use of influence to get power to move the needle in your direction.

Don't forget that. Information asymmetries have caused us problems throughout human history. There's an amazing Wall Street Journal article by William McGurn you need to read. It's subscription only, but this is worth your time. Capitalism says the more population, the merrier. I'm not going to go into it at length, folks, but it's something I've emphasized for a really long time. Probably going to talk more about it on Monday, but I'd love you to get a head start and read this piece. It is so important about why capitalism will always defeat socialism and top-down communism. Because ladies and gentlemen, you can confiscate property as communists do

and socialists do, farms and factories. But why capitalism is so prosperous and communism is so expensive to people is you can never confiscate an idea. An idea can spread virally. The idea that we should use this black stuff coming on the, I'm coming out of the ground, which people thought was waste in the kerosene era as motor oil and gasoline

for a car was an idea. It was a waste product before. McGurk notes, capitalism succeeds not only because it's efficient, but because it correctly locates the source of wealth in the human mind. I'm going to cover, remember, we're going to cover this more on Monday. I got to get to the questions, but this is a hugely important idea. Information asymmetries, in other words, cultural people in the culture who've used their influence among the left to spread communism and socialism. They've stopped people from reading into why capitalism works.

Critical stuff. All right. Let me get to questions for Dan. Question one. Hey, Dan, do you think Republicans will stick together and get things done if they win this fall at right as right i don't know uh no you want to know the short answer uh no because they're going to have biden in their way and you're going to have some squishes out there having said that uh it sets us up nicely for 2024 if we can get trump or desantis in the white house and the republicans will be forced to come

along. So the answer is vote. Vote like your life depends on it, but don't set your expectations too high. At Vulcan 95, was it always a dream of yours to become a Secret Service agent or did the opportunity come up and you took it? No, I wanted to be an FBI agent. My dad came into the basement I was hanging out with with my brother in my aunt's house one day to pick us up on the weekend and had a brochure for the Secret Service and said, I think you should give them a call. And that's how I wound up there. And I fell in love with the organization. It's a great place to work. At Illinois IL Patriot 247, what advice can you give to other parents sending their kids to college, knowing that as oftentimes when our children may become indoctrinated by loony liberal teachers.

Folks, my best advice to you is make it a lifetime mission. If you're seriously worried a week before your kid goes to college that you may have lost them, they're already lost before the liberal professor opens their mouth. I wish I had a better answer for you, but I've done my best. There's no guarantees, but you have to take every opportunity throughout their lives. Give them an allowance, take taxes out. Tell them, I'm getting used to it now. Government's going to take it later.

Really, every time something appears on the news about some pro-abortion person, explain to them the value of human life and you won't have to worry too much. Hey, Dan, Doc T Money, you mentioned frequently the FBI must be disbanded. Let's say it doesn't happen. Basically, what are your top things you would do to try and turn it into a legitimate law enforcement agency? It's not hard, folks. I would get an outside entity to work as a stronger internal affairs overseer. The IG's office has been an embarrassment. Second, I would fire everyone. I would do an updated polygraph maybe every couple of years to see who's leaking to the media. And I would make sure that these inspections of each

FBI office are happening basically once a year, if not more, to make sure that they're determining cases they're taking, cases they're not, and who's making these decisions and why. It's the best you can do, but they need to be disbanded at this point. They're a mess. Lisa, Lisa won. Even though I live in Florida and trust the election process here, should I do mail-in voting for the midterms or go in person? I think it's best to go in person.

I haven't said that because I'm not a fraud. I vote by mail. The reason I've said many times, you know, you agree with it or not, I understand, but it causes kind of a ruckus when I go there. Candidates are there. It's just been a mess. So I vote by mail in Florida.

I've never had a problem. You can go to, I live in Martin County. They do an amazing job here. You can go online. It has a track your ballot received process. If by two days out of the election, I mail my ballot and it doesn't say it's received, I'm walking right in there. Never had a problem ever, but I would go in person if it was an option. Let's go Brandon, LGB21. Do you worry after Rumble going public, it will potentially get bought out and destroyed? Folks,

listen, this is an interesting question. It's a great one, and thank you for asking. I could cover a whole show on this. You have to understand, you can't hold Rumble to a standard that no other company on planet Earth has held it. Any company at

some point, if the managers decided to sell it, could be bought out. Any company. However, Rumble was structured as a free speech company with a visionary CEO whose entire life mission is free speech. It's the only reason he has Rumble where it is now. It's his entire, triaging his life needs and Maslow's

hierarchy of needs. The CEO, that's at the top. It's free speech. Even when it went public, he maintained control of the company. He would have to sell to someone who was trying to destroy it. So I see that as hugely, hugely unlikely, but it's a good question. I'm not knocking it. Okay. At AdSum1, is the Secret Service just as corrupted as the FBI and DOJ? Not in my experience, but you got to remember, I've been gone 10 years. The people who were there when I was there, we had bad apples like everyone else, but none of this stuff, man. This stuff has gotten really bad. I'm going to have to wrap it up there, folks.

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