The Dan Bongino Show - Is This The Worst Interview Ever? (Ep. 2616)

Episode Date: October 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 All America all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Friends out there, and I say friends, because I really do consider you all friends. I feel like I know many of you from the chat, from studio events we've done, from election night, from just phone conversations I've had with the McGroin crew and others. People I know personally from the show who've been here for years, the Lin-and-Jefs of the chat pops all of you. I can't say it enough.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I don't, I don't, I don't get it sometimes. I don't get how this two year body of work that's been put together. I'm talking about results. Divorce yourself from the emotions. I don't care if you love Trump, hate Trump, love me, hate me, whatever. I just don't understand how you know your country's on the line if you're one of those on the fence voters. And you could possibly consider the alternative to what we have right now.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I got Sarah Carter our drugs are coming up later in a great interview. Parents, by the way, you got to watch it. She talks about this new drug on the market that they had not. It's a rhino tranquilizer that they're finding in hospitals. We can't go back to that. It's just, that's the only reason I'm bringing this up at the beginning of the show. I cannot go back to open borders, fentanyl deaths exploding, rhino tranquilizers going basically unwatched, crime rates going back up again, defund the president.
Starting point is 00:01:32 police, defund ICE, defund DHS, 9% inflation under Biden, 5% average inflation, massive government red tape, assaults on the Second Amendment, partial birth abortion, post birth abortion, also known as homicide. I can't go back to that. I can't. Your country is on the line in this midterm election. Go and take it. Go take it. It's yours. There is a a very simple solution for us to maintain all of this forward progress we have. Just go vote and take it. It's right there. Millions more people vote in a presidential election for President Trump than vote in a midterm. Why? Because they just don't show up. That's those people are there. Go get them. Bring 10 people with you. I
Starting point is 00:02:32 I've been saying this for years, and not just me, but someone else you remember as well. I want to play something for you. This show had a different title initially, but I was afraid people wouldn't get it. So I had changed it because this interview at the end just kind of highlights the opposite of this, how unsurious the other party is, the Democrats. But this show had a different title in the beginning. It was about a moment that there are very few moments in your life can we acknowledge that you're completely changed and transformed. I don't know what you want to call it, the spirit realm or whatever
Starting point is 00:03:07 it is. There are very few moments where you feel like you've left your body and you're in a special place. One of them happened for me. I got a big show for you today, so please stay tuned to. Your country's there. Go take it. Just take it. It's yours. Folks, the midterms are here. The stakes are high. Discover how gold can help you diversify your portfolio with Birch Gold, B-I-R-C-H. text Dan to 9898998. Check it out. Message and data rates may apply. Check out Birch gold.
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Starting point is 00:05:17 I mean, it wasn't like I didn't know that this could happen. There have been attacks on political attacks, many leveled against Republicans and conservatives for a long time, Steve Scalese and others, Kavanaugh. But watching that was just, I don't know, man. It's like I think back to like when Reagan was shot and the space shuttle disaster like moments. You know what I'm talking about? Moments that I don't know what it does. It permanently transforms your brain's architecture.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So you always remember it as if you were there again. I mean, how many moments in your life can you really say that about? Now, sometimes those moments and thankfully aren't just tragedy. either the first time you see your daughter, you know, serve great in a volleyball game. And she smiles at you. Like, you remember that too? But I had this feeling. I had this feeling after Charlie was brutally murdered and stolen from us way too soon.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I had this feeling that this was going to be an inflection point, one of two ways. for those of you who knew Charlie personally like I did and even if you didn't not but you had some interaction with him at an event or whatever Charlie was kind of like the glue that had held this movement together because Charlie given his position as an organizer who's he was he lived by the addition principle we have to bring more people into movement to win because we're not going to project political power and advanced conservatism without a win. Charlie had to deal with The conservatives, the libertarians, the moderate Republicans, old school Republicans, neo-conservatives, independents who lean conservative.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Charlie had to deal with all of them. He was kind of like the glue, the mortar that held this all together. And I said to myself, I'm telling you, I remember vividly in my head sitting at the desk thinking this is going to go one of two ways. It's going to be a moment of solidarity or it's going to be a moment of division where this whole thing falls apart. we're going to see in this upcoming election which one of those paths and that fork in the road we're at. I say that because when I was at Charlie's Memorial in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:07:37 there is a group of Christian-based singers. Jasmine's very familiar with she listens to a lot of spiritual music. I did not before. It's not like I didn't like it. I just never really been exposed to it that much. I was at Charlie's Memorial Cervoir. in Arizona. And there's this guy, I don't know if you know,
Starting point is 00:07:58 Cody Carnes and Carrie Job. They're very, very popular faith-based singers. And I was sitting there right close to the stage watching this. And I had never heard this song, The Blessing, before. And folks, I'm going to tell you something. If there's a spirit realm, I was in it. Because I'd never experienced anything like that in my life. And I just ask you to remember what Charlie stood for before this election.
Starting point is 00:08:30 How we're not going to get everything we want from everyone. The conservatives aren't going to get everything. The neo-conservatives aren't going to get everything. The libertarians aren't going to get everything they want. The old-school Republicans aren't going to get everything they want. But if you get 60 to 80 percent, as Ronald Reagan said, we can go back for the rest later. This was a moment. I was so filled with hope.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I just want you to listen to this one. The song is about seven to ten minutes, depending on what verse. you listen to. But if you were there for this, in the chat, if you were there, please acknowledge what I'm telling you is true that everyone in that building is in the spirit realm. This is. Yeah, I know. It's just hard for me. Okay, folks, I'm telling you, this was hard for me to talk. Chill is just listening. I saw that in the chat right now. I think anyone who watched that and was in the spirit realm too.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm reading your chat now. The song is called, sorry, man, I get it a lot emotional with this. The song is called The Blessing, and it is, I encourage you to listen to the whole thing. It's thankfully a rather long song in an era where people do a one-minute song so you can sit there and enter the spirit realm yourself
Starting point is 00:10:03 for seven to ten minutes of your life. Folks, I'd never heard that before. and I had a lot of hope after that. And I have a lot of hope now. I'm never given up hope. If you ever read Victor Frankel's book, listen, this isn't Oprah's book club, okay? I'm not telling you what to do or not do.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'm just telling you, if you ever want to read a book about hope, Victor Frankl's generational bestseller, has been a bestseller for decades. It's called Man's Search for Meaning. it's Victor Frankl's real-life account of living in the Holocaust death camps and how even in a Nazi concentration camp with nearly assured death, there were incredibly people who still managed to have hope. And he talks about it how you can tell. He says you can tell how someone had given up. They had just given up and they would say, they called it walking into the wire.
Starting point is 00:11:09 There was like an electrified fence and some people in the camps just gave up and they decided it was the end and they terminated their own lives. He said, you can just see it. He said, and then you would see others that despite the atrocity and the abomination of their daily lives in a concentration camp, that they still managed to keep the view that one day I'm going to get out of here and I'm going to see my family again. And it's what kept them going. that book changed my life it'll change yours too i'm never given up hope and folks it's really sad
Starting point is 00:11:44 that we have some folks again who you had trusted in the past that are doing everything they can to get you to give up hope and forfeit your country away making you believe apathy is a better choice than activism that to give up the fight is better than to stand there valiantly at the front lines dress yourself in the armor of God and take on the demons. You know, I'm not one of those guys. I'm not. And we're going to do an election night show. And if it turns out to be a freaking blue tsunami and we lose every freaking seat in the Congress, I promise you the next day I'm going to be really pissed off. But if you think I'm forfeiting away my country, you're crazy. I don't care if we're down to one listener and it's Jasmine in a bubble inside,
Starting point is 00:12:38 you are never, ever going to get me to say, ah, I just give up. Because it's not about you. It's about your kids. And even if you don't have kids, it's about your nephews. If you don't have nephews, it's about your friend's kids. Folks, Andrew from Turning Point, Andrew Colvad from Turning Point, who is Charlie's best friend.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Andrew gave an amazing answer yesterday. He was on a panel, and he was addressing the, the choice in this election. How things aren't perfect, folks, I get it. The inflation number came in today. It wasn't spectacular. However, it was still far below where you were, even the average under Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:13:18 You have a choice. You have so many great things in this country to vote on. Security, public safety, a growing economy. The fact that you're free here, even despite tyrants who tried to steal away your freedom, you are still free to go vote in a secret ballot and to speak your mind, unlike in the European Union, without the fear of arrest. You want to give that up?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Andrew was asked about this, and this was just a complete banger of an answer. Check this out. You know, she said the American dream's gone, and I think young people need to understand that this is still America. This is still the land of opportunity, the home of the brave. I mean, we have such a blessing. You should kiss the ground that you walk on that you get to live in this. country and never forget that. Yeah, there's problems. Yeah, there's issues. This is still America.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So I don't believe in downsizing the American dream at all. Thank you, Andrew. I'm not downsizing the American dream or the importance of you showing up or giving up hope no matter what happens. R. Corey in the chat, listening to you, Dan, while digging out from the hurricane here in Pensacola, adopt and overcome. These guys in the chat, he's digging his house out from a hurricane. He's going to show up and vote. Folks, don't drag 10 people with you, drag 20. You go out and bank your vote. Bank your vote. That way they don't have to spend money or knock on your door anymore and go and grab 10 of your neighbors who are unsure and convince them to take their butts out of the chair and go and vote. Your country is at stake. Go and take it today. Here's Tom Sauer on X. Folks,
Starting point is 00:15:08 this is going to hurt, but man, read this. If you see it on the screen right now, if you're listening on audio, at Thomas B. Sour, Charlie Kirk was murdered, and you're thinking about sitting out the midterms, what the F is wrong with you? Thank you, Tom.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I don't know any other way to say it. Charlie was murdered at an event promoting the free exchange of ideas in celebration of this capital law republic and our constitutional founding fathers' beautiful ideas in the Constitution that you're free to speak. That's all at risk.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's hyperbolic. No, it isn't. The people running on the other side of the aisle are running on abolishing the Senate, packing our Supreme Court, wiping out your ability to speak through your ballot to pull a lever for the rest of your life. this is what they're actually running on.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Folks, maybe you like me, maybe you don't. But most people in this movement, even if they didn't like him, respected Charlie and what he did, no one turned out a crowd like Charlie. They just didn't. Maybe you don't want to take my advice about bringing 10 people. I'm telling you to bring 20. Please.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Here's what Charlie had to say on the matter. Sound familiar? Check this out. Ballots are out in Arizona. Ballots are out in Arizona. Ballots are out. Go vote right now. Bank your vote, get it in there and get a friend who otherwise would not have voted and get it in the system right now.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And once you vote, your job is not done. That is step one. Go find 10 other people. Go find your neighbor, your nephew, especially the one that is not a high prop voter. The one that's like, I don't know about it. You've got to dive into that relationship. Do that work. And especially, especially with an exponent on it if you live in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:17:13 The man was a legend, folks. And he was murdered. He was killed in front of all of us. Most of you saw it and had to witness the horror of what happened to him. Everything he stood for is on the ballot. He's not even with us anymore. Folks, there's no excuse to not show up. There were tens of millions of more people that voted in the presidential election
Starting point is 00:17:45 who sat out the 2022 midterms. I'm talking about our people. Democrats too, but our people. If the same people who voted for President Trump just showed up in this midterm election, whatever we call you, low propensity voters or whatever, you've heard me mention the term four by four. I'll get to that in a second. It's important. Hold that in your mind. If those people just showed up, they're registered, they know how to vote, they voted for the Trump agenda before. If just those people showed up and no more, we would hold the House and the Senate by, by, by,
Starting point is 00:18:19 two or three points in many of these swing states. That's just simple math. You're not many of you, some are tragically, but most of us aren't digging out from a hurricane. Those folks are showing up. Folks, remember I told you about the four by four voters? Four by four voters, a lot of people listen to this show, the absolute diehards. Nuclear Armageddon does not keep these people from voting. A four by four voter are people who voted in the last four primaries and elections. You're not stopping them from voting no matter what. Those are the people going to show up. That's not enough. That's not the one by four voters have to show up. Maybe they voted in one general election in the last four election years or for four cycles. Those are the people we have to go out and get.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Many of them voted for President Trump for the first time in 2024. We have to go get those people. I'm not a huge fan of Frank Luntz. I'll be honest with you. But this is a very very, very good piece with Leland Vitter from News Nation about four by fours at the high propensity voters and how this may be leading to a dramatic skew in the polling, which is leading people to believe that this race is already over at a blue tsunami. I need you to listen to this, because even Democrat operatives are starting to acknowledge that maybe the blue tsunami me blue wave talk is quote, too rosy. I'm just bringing the receipts, man.
Starting point is 00:19:51 For anyone out there like, it's a fade of complete. This race is over. I'm not voting. Oh, you are dead wrong. Dead wrong. All right, quick break and I'll show you what I mean. Stay tuned. Folks, the stakes couldn't be higher. We finally have a country fighting hard for America. But if we lose focus now, the same people who created this mess are going to be right back in
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Starting point is 00:22:31 In case you think, you know, Dan's an activist, conservative, former candidate, he's just telling you this to juice you up. We're really going to lose. The race is already over. Okay. Disregard what I'm saying. I'm obviously cannot be totally objective. I'm a conservative. I support President Trump. It's hard for me to divorce myself from my feelings completely. Let's use the Democrats' own words in case you think this race is already over.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Calci politics. Politico. Top Democrat pollsters say the recent round of New York Times Sienna polls were, quote, too rosy. These are Democrats. These are Democrats. Don't believe me. Believe them. I'll show you why in a second with
Starting point is 00:23:10 the Luntz Club. I'll put We back it up with receipts. We are not giving up. There is, hope is not lost. Politico, here's the actual article. High on hopium. Behind the scenes, at least some Democrats are in skeptic camps. One top Democrat pollster privately fretted to us that the recent round of polls were, quote,
Starting point is 00:23:30 too rosy. It goes on. They're starting to get worried, folks. There's some closing. Go to the next one. Watching House Democrat leaders travel around the country, they continue, looking to expand the map some members are getting worried election day will be far closer than leadership expects they note even the house minority leader jeffreys showed playbook comments he made in pennsylvania quote
Starting point is 00:23:53 we're running through the finish line we take nothing for granted but we're on the verge of taking back control the house of representatives folks they are hedging now because they understand that these low propensity voters on the Republican side, who may not have turned out for a midterm election in the past, that President Trump taking a significant amount of his time to go to Alaska and elsewhere to gin up support for the Trump agenda may get those one-by-four voters out. To be clear again, not to beat this thing to death.
Starting point is 00:24:29 The one-by-four is someone who voted maybe once in the last four election cycles. they're really low propensity voters. They may not ever show up in a midterm, with the exception of Donald Trump. Because people who love Donald Trump really love Donald Trump. The problem is people who hate Donald Trump really hate Donald Trump. There's no milk toast in there. And I'm talking about Democrats.
Starting point is 00:24:55 The problem is, are the Democrats oversampling four-by-four Democrats who really, really hate Donald Trump, while undersampling people who really love Donald Trump, but haven't voted in midterms in the past. And is that what's leading to this media narrative, oh, Republicans stay home, it's a blue wave? Not a huge fan of once. However, this is a pretty good analysis
Starting point is 00:25:18 of a potential skew in the polls with Leland Vitter. Check this out. And the polls may not be picking up a hidden Republican vote. If it exists, this is why. Cold Spark did a total of 892 interviews across five Pennsylvania Senate districts. Four of four Democrats, people who voted in the last four elections and identify as Democrats, are a hundred and twenty-nine percent over quota.
Starting point is 00:25:41 By contrast, the equivalent high-propensity Republicans are just two percent over quota. What does that mean? It says that the Democrats are participating or prepared to participate and that the Republicans, low-prepensity voters, except in the presidential race, are still less likely to participate. Participate in polls or the election?
Starting point is 00:26:03 The elections. And I agree with you in your analysis that this is a high-stakes decision for him. Donald Trump is magic to his voters. When he speaks, they listen, and they don't hear anyone else. Here's the problem. He's also magic to people who don't like him, who are more likely to participate because they're thinking of him. So he's going to bring out his own vote.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But he's also going to bring out those who don't like him at all. Now, can I add to that for a second and give you the Dan Bongino analysis? When you look at the early voting numbers in Florida, in Michigan, and elsewhere, numbers, actual numbers of people who voted we can see right now in live time. When you look at those numbers, the Democrats, this pattern is clear. The first day of early voting, there's an explosion in four by four Democrats. We hate Donald Trump showing up with their number one foamy fingers. I'm the number one Donald Trump hate. They show up.
Starting point is 00:27:04 No doubt about that. And then you look at the subsequent days and the numbers go, they drop like a rock, meaning the three by four voters, three of the last four elections, two by four voters, two of the last four, one by four and zero out of four are not showing up on the Democrat side. Have they exhausted the hate matrix against Donald Trump, while the love matrix for Donald Trump is not exhausted as all at all, as Republicans do pretty well in early voting,
Starting point is 00:27:33 in some cases a little bit of an increase. Folks, this thing is not over at all. Anyone telling you that is giving you doom or slop because they want the president to lose. Hey, has it become any clearer to you over the last few weeks out of podcast to stand? And folks, there's a reason. I have made a conscious decision to focus on this election. and to sideline a lot of the distraction nonsense.
Starting point is 00:27:58 But I got to show you an example of this coming up in a second again, how right before a critical election, Islam fanatics, socialists, progressive liberals, I mean, just total complete social commies. There are people running on the exact same message pretending to be your friend, and there are people falling for it. This explains the massive extinction burst yesterday against Kate Sakariah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 that you would think this would be like she did a presser you say the presser was fine she was nervous really bro let me let me just ask people in the audience who is arrogant and egotistical enough to believe your first press conference is the press secretary in front of figuratively speak the entire world probably millions of people watching you your first time they're like she was a little nervous oh you wouldn't be? Right. And succeeding Caroline Levin, who was probably like one or two press secretaries of all time. The media just hilariously lost their mind yesterday. Why? They grasping onto anything right now. I saw some reports this morning. Some people have it. She doesn't.
Starting point is 00:29:16 How do you know she doesn't have it? From 15 minutes in front of the point, it was fine. She did a good job. Folks, I sit here and talk to 42,000 people right now at 1030 in the morning and millions more over Apple, Spotify, YouTube and all these other platforms. You know, we have audio content, but not live video, right? I got to tell you, if you stuck me in front of there, I'd be a little anxious, too. The first time I ever filled in for Sean Hannity on the Fox show, it was the first time I ever had to show myself. It was like two days or three days before Christmas. I was walking into the Fox building, and I'm going to tell you some, it's the first time in my life I was really nervous about producing content.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I was like, man, once that camera goes on and that thing turns green, it's you, baby. And you know what I thought of? I thought of my man, the snake, Kenny Stabler, quarterback for the Raiders. What was his favorite line? Throw deep, baby. Throw deep. But if you go watch that show, it's probably on. Screw tube somewhere.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You'll see in the first minute or two, I'm a little nervous, too. She did fine. And you're seriously going to compare what she did yesterday. It was a great job. Two, you want to go back to this? Remember the binder? Cari Jop here? Here's Karinjabir, making sure you know she's the first gay, lesbian, black immigrant.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Great. You want to go back to this? this out. I am obviously acutely aware that my presence at this podium represents a few firsts. I am a black, gay, immigrant woman, the first of all three of those to hold this position. I would not be here today if it were not for generations of barrier breaking people before me. I stand on their shoulders. If it were not for generations of barrier breaking people before me, I would not be here. But I benefit from their sacrifices. I have learned from their excellence, and I am forever grateful to them. Representation does matter. You hear us say this often in this
Starting point is 00:31:36 administration, and no one understands this better than President Biden. Justin just said it right. Spoken from the heart and the pre-prepared note, someone rough for her, she's staring down. Folks, you know, we laugh about hat-tip, BDP, like education, education. educational entertainment that the show is we we like to be educational but we also want the show to be entertaining or no one's going to tune in you may say oh that was definitely the entertainment portion no it isn't i put that up for a reason it's not just to poke fun at her although it's easy she was horrendous that's not the point i want you to notice something what do we always talk about i practice what i preach snapshots sound bites and contrasts if you don't understand that as an activist or a candidate you're
Starting point is 00:32:22 just going to get smoked. I want to paint a picture for you. Yesterday, Kate Zachariah goes out there and eloquently, and all right, maybe a little couple of nervous tics, but no big deal, makes the whole first 10 minutes of the presser about the Trump agenda, not about, I'm the first west of the Mississippi blonde woman who went to law school at Pepper the, she barely mentions her own resume.
Starting point is 00:32:51 She's like, hey, I'm here to defend this White House in our agenda. She makes the whole thing about everything other than her. Corrine Jean-Pierre goes up there, I'm the first gay, black immigrant breaking ceilings everywhere, all over the place with a binder full of multicolored tabs that represent the DEI rainbow, the LGBTIQI. Spirit, B-I-P-O-C. Those are all real, by the way. The contrast is clear as day. And you got this clown car of goofball commentators, who I'm telling you would have hit the bed
Starting point is 00:33:38 and put an S in front of it if it was their turn. Here's the hilariously stupid Caitlin Collins, who, by the way, before she got a show ridiculously, ridiculously on CNN, the most underqualified person in American history to get a news network show. Caitlin Collins was an entertainment reporter, like wrote about like movies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Here she is like, oh, I've never seen anything like. Really? You never, she gave a 15-minute presser, answered a few questions. At 9.30 in the morning, the second day she was hired and you think you would have done better. Okay, sure. It's not a movie.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Go review Digger or something, that Tom Cruise movie, Kayla, that's where you belong. Check this out. It's kind of bizarre because it was, the press briefing, but there was only two questions that were taken by the new press secretary. She came out. She read very lengthy remarks, which is not unusual. That's typically what Caroline Levitt would do as well. She would take a, come out and talk about what the administration wanted to tout that day, any announcements, anything that was going on. And then she turned to
Starting point is 00:34:38 questions. Actually, let me adjust my account. She took three questions. But yeah, Wolf, I'm just, I'm a little surprise. I've never really seen a briefing where there weren't, um, I mean, I mean, I've seen a few where there's only a couple of questions, but I've never seen one where there was only three questions taken during an entire press briefing. So that was unusual. So I'm not really sure. I mean, it started 15 minutes ago, so I don't really know what to say. Did you catch that?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Wait, hold on. Did you guys? I just, I'm embarrassed to tell you this. I actually missed this in the, not only when I pulled the clip, but in the show rundown, too. This is not a skit or a gig. I actually miss it. I'm horrified, Jasmine. but I got to throw myself under the bus.
Starting point is 00:35:21 This is how stupid Caitlin Collins is. Some of you go in the chat, I think, picked up on it. She says at the end, oh my gosh, I've never seen this before. Someone who's answered three questions. I've seen a few where they answer a couple. I mean, I've seen a few where there's only a couple of questions, but I've never seen one where there was only three questions taken during an entire press brief. Is Andrew, you missed Andrew in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:35:48 He's like, couple. Three. I've never seen, I'm going to answer three questions. I've seen a few where they've answered two. A baker's couple. Good job. This is like we need Jay Zabikis again. If there was ever a time for J. Zabikas, you've got to be a hardcore P-1. I think only audience archive is Judy remembers that one. Some guy said us an abacus once because liberals can't do math.
Starting point is 00:36:14 This guy, Jay. And everybody thought it was the name of a person. Jay Zabacus? No, it's J's Apatry. Abacus. This is how stupid these people are. This is all they have two weeks out from an election. Just petty, stupid, mean girl type attacks on Kate Sakurai, who did a fine job under really
Starting point is 00:36:41 stressful circumstances that Caitlin Collins would have crapped their draws on. You'd be changing her right now. Here's MSNOWW, of course, jumping into the fray too. man, there's another one. I can't believe Kate Sakurai has said, hey, I'm going to get back to you with an answer on Ukraine. That's never happened. A press secretary
Starting point is 00:37:03 having to get back to you with an answer. Never seen that before, ever. Listen to this commentary, and I think you all know we're going with this one. Receipts matter, right? Check this out. I don't know whether she has any information about the U.S. intelligence sharing capacity with the Ukrainians, but she did provide an answer.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And that answer was essentially, I don't know that I'm going to have to get back to you. That should be a very basic answer from the podium of the West Wing here. And I think it's why it's such a concern to have somebody representing the United States and the executive branch in this capacity, when there are some very basic questions there that she should either have a yes or a no answer to, not a, I need to get back to you on that answer. Yeah, we've never, we've never seen that, guys. Andrew, we've never seen a press secretary ever before. saying, I don't really have the answer.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I'm going to have to circle back. What is that Gwen Stefani's song? I ain't no holler back girl, right? Oh, H-O-L-L-A? I ain't no circle back girl. We've never seen that before. So, of course, Pepperman Patty had to chime in, Jen's secretary, the most deceptive press secretary.
Starting point is 00:38:13 She's a very skilled liar, and that's not a compliment. She says, well, that briefing was basically an S&L skit, except it wasn't. We'll have a lot more to say at 9 p.m. Really, Jen? Now, here is an MSNOWW personality, who again, never, ever said, I'll get back to you on an answer.
Starting point is 00:38:31 She had every single answer right at the tip of her fingertips. Hat-tip Graebyan for this, Jim. Check this out. I'll circle back if there's more I can share with you. I'll circle back with you if there's more to convey. I'll have to just circle back with you. We can circle back with you.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm happy to circle back with you. I can circle back. I will have to circle back on that one. That's an excellent question. Oh, such an important question. We will circle back with you and we'll circle back with you. It's an interesting question, but we'll circle back. I'm happy to circle back.
Starting point is 00:38:57 But I'll have to circle back with you on it. It's a good question, but we'll circle back with you on this today. We will certainly circle back with you more directly. I hate to disappoint you, but I will have to circle back with you on. Folks, I'm just going to ask a question. Please respond in the chat. Because there are some, I get it where most of you stand, but we always get a couple trolls in there.
Starting point is 00:39:21 It's a serious question. Let me tell you right now, and I mean this. I mean it. I am not asking this like rhetorically or to be a jerk. I'm asking it seriously. Do receipts or if you want to speak more plainly evidence of the truth. Does that matter to you or not? It clearly doesn't matter the left wing media. The MSNOWW person knows clear well before he says, oh, Kate Sakurai, God forbid, had he get back on an answer. Knows full well. Jen Saki rarely had an answer.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And Corrine Jean-Pierre never said anything. It's her first freaking day. Thank you, Justin. At 9.30 in the morning. Our second day. That's it. They just don't care. This is what makes liberals vote for their own self-destruction.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Where am I going with this? Folks, I'm seeing this infection spread on our side to and I cannot tell you enough how dangerous this is. Once you get into a post-truth political ecosystem where post-truth, meaning the truth and evidence doesn't matter to you, you have nothing but anarchy left because nobody who tells you anything is going to be believed. So why would you vote at all? That is the point with a lot of the doomer slop out there.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Incredibly. I really debated putting this. in the show. Again, I'm just being candid with you because there's no time for this. There's just no time. We have two plus weeks left into a critical election where your country's at stake and I ask you to go and take it. But incredibly, instead of encouraging people to fight the socialist, the Islamo fanatics, there are people who many of you thought were your friends in Pakistan and elsewhere doing everything they can to demoralize you two weeks before an election. And I can't believe that the receipts don't matter to the followers.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I know these people are liars because we have the evidence. But for some reason, some of these folks, it just doesn't matter. They're going to walk off. I hate the Lemmings analogy because that's not actually, Lemmings don't actually do it like that. But there are people who will drink that Kool-Aid despite watching everyone around them die. Here's what I mean. While I do understand liberal media hypocrisy,
Starting point is 00:41:52 I do not understand why people continue to listen to this drivel from Tucker about me, despite the fact that I have repeatedly challenged him to just produce the evidence he claims to have. And he refuses to do it while I put out the evidence directly contradicting him. And there are still followers of this guy who are like, yeah, man, I believe him. Despite no evidence and evidence to the contrary. I don't care about evidence. Okay. I can't help you. Join the liberals.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So this happened the other day. He went on a podcast and again is claiming that President Trump is involved in a big conspiracy with me and cash to oddly enough, fellas, cover up his own assassination. I, I, it's, damn, that sounds stupid. I did. It's because it is. So again, he's claiming for the, I don't know, 20th time, I've got some texts showing that President Trump buried and closed the investigation through his own assassination. Really? Because I've asked them to show the text. I've begged him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Because I actually have the text. They were with me. I'll show you coming up next. And I'd love to see Tucker actually respond, but he won't. This is a hat-tip, Milk Bar TV, a great channel, showing you how I've repeatedly tried to show you how doomerslop has no other purpose than to demoralize. you before an election. Follow the path that Charlie, not the people attacking him. Get out there. Bring 10 people. Don't fall for this crap. Check this out. And then something changed. And it changed, I think, during the summer of 2024. I think it changed in July with the Butler shooting. I knew Dan Bonino
Starting point is 00:43:37 very well. And I knew Cash Patel. And I called them both and said, we got this information from a random person who found it on the internet. My tech guys checked it. It's real. And it shows that Thomas Crooks had a social media profile and I have part of it. And they immediately attacked me. They attacked me. And I, you know, I'm not, and I'm not being whiny or self-pitting or anything, but I was confused because I, you know, what did I do wrong? But rather than help me, they attacked me. And that's when I started pulling on that thread and found out that it was Trump who would shut down the investigation to the Butler shooting. Making an allegation, claiming to have evidence in text, which I'll now show you my text, because I have them too. I think he forgot that. And I'm going to
Starting point is 00:44:17 show you how the secret information he claims to have, I'm going to make public. So now it's not secret. So I have the receipts. He has not yet displayed these. I will. Because I'll show you how what he's telling you in this clip that there's some investigation to Butler that's been shut down, I'm going to bring the receipts to show you all this is fake. Tucker fans or anyone else. Do you see anything in this text he claims to have that says the president shut down the investigation? He's just making this up. If you choose to listen to this Nipo, baby imbecile after this. That's on you. And then the obvious question, any rational person would ask is, why would you shut down an investigation into your own attempted murder? And I still can't think
Starting point is 00:44:57 of an answer other than you know exactly who attempted to kill you and you've made some accommodation with them. What's the other answer? I can't find one. He's just making this up. Folks, I don't want to burn any more time on this because he's not worth your time. I'm telling you categorically, he's making this whole story up, including this complete, total, ridiculous characterization of that phone call. Here's another text you may not have seen between me and Tucker. When I was questioning his, you know, at 20th or 30th time, he made this ridiculous claim about President Trump involved in a conspiracy to bizarrely cover up his own assassination.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Do you get the subtext, by the way? The Jews did it. President Trump doesn't want you to know. You get where he's going with this? Here's what I sent them. Here's another one at text. Because you're a liar, a fraud, the charlatan, and you derive pleasure from deception.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And unlike you, I have evidence of all of this. I'm giving you permission on this text to publish the text you claim to have when you said, which I still have. Tucker claims he said that. Leave this up. Tucker said, text, which I still have. I'm giving him clear as day, permission to publish him.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Because I know he's full of crap. texts you claim, Tucker, that state the president told me to shut down the Butler investigation. You can't produce those texts because you made it up. But you know that already. If the truth doesn't matter to you, vote Democrat like he's telling him. He loves El-Sayed. That's his guy. He loves the Islamo fanatics.
Starting point is 00:46:41 He hates everything we fought for. And I'm just stunned. Some people have fallen for that. All right, moving on. I told you I don't want to burn a lot of time. I'm on that, but I'm really proud you're here and you see through all this crap. So I'm wasting any more time on podcast this day. Go out and vote.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Follow the advice of Charlie. Go out and grab 10 people. Go take your country back. It's yours. It's yours. Go and take it. If you just show up like you did for President Trump in 2024, we will hold the House and the Senate by a wide margin.
Starting point is 00:47:13 If you don't, your country is going to collapse quickly. I want to show you what I mean here too. I'm going to do this segment called The Great to Good and the Ugly instead of the Good to Bad and the Ugly. I want to talk about the Great First because you do have an election coming up. This is a really terrific ad
Starting point is 00:47:26 from a congressman from Texas, Beth Van Dyne. She or she is pointing out the fight. Now, the reason I'm playing this ad is a lot of political consultants who don't know their ass from their elbow. There are some good ones. I'm not making any kind of blanket insults to anyone. There are a lot of really good consultants.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I've used them in the past and they were excellent. There are some who just sucked, though. And I've seen this kind of thread. And I think it's coming from old school Republican consultants who don't understand the new technology. They're like, stop talking about the socialism threat. I even saw her, I think it was a Karl Rove piece who said this argument's not going to go anywhere. Really? Man, you don't live in South Florida.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And what about people who grew up in, you know, the Berlin Wall and people who've, you know, been from, you know, portions of the old Yugoslavia in communist countries? this is a real threat. Here's Beth Van Dyn in a great, about a minute ad. I encourage all of you to actively talk about this socialist threat and use their own words against them. It's how you paint a contrast using snapshots and soundbites. This is great. Check this out. They're coming.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I am a democratic socialist. A socialist mayor in New York City. Suck it up and defunding the police has to happen. Radicals who want to defund the police and open our borders. I'm Beth Van Dine. We tell ourselves this won't happen in Texas. The truth is, they're already here. If you are okay with getting taxed more,
Starting point is 00:48:51 you are welcome to join this movement that we're building. I'm Beth Van Dyne, and it's time to stop the socialists. I approve this message. Let's bite back. Folks, I'm really sorry, but a really crappy group of consultants, again, it's not all of them, but years ago told us after the Romney election, a group of people I used to meet with who were die-hard conservatives, and we laughed.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They were like, don't ever talk about immigration again. Donald Trump made it the staple of his 45 campaign and won in an electoral college landslide. They don't know everything. The threat of socialism is real. Why would you not talk about it? The threat to your wallet, the threat to your national security, to your individual liberty, to your freedom of speech, as we opened up the show with. That's all on the ballot.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Why would you not bring that up? This one I'm just throwing in there. more of an entertainment portion, but in the entertainment community, you've seen a bunch of leftists who just like people who don't like receipts and follow podcasts to stand into the abyss, you're seeing this just like,
Starting point is 00:49:54 Zach, was it, Zach Bryan, that guy, and the MacLamore guy, these guys don't know anything about geopolitics or anything jumping into the space. This is the good, though. I gave you the great, I'll give you the good. This is, I didn't see this coming at all. Do you remember Motley crew?
Starting point is 00:50:12 was it Tommy, Tommy leaves, is it Vince, Vince Neil? And was it Nikki Six? Am I right? Tell me in the chat. I think I'm right. I grew up with Motley Crew. A friend of mine knows Vince Neal really well.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Here's Motley Crew at a concert. This is the crazy thing about the concert. Nobody wants you to go out there and lecture them about politics on either side. They just want to hear you sing. Thankfully, just like Metallica we played yesterday, Motley Crew gets it too. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:50:42 matter to motley crew if you're a republican it does not matter to molly crew if you're a democrat it does not fucking matter if you're gay or if you're straight or if you're going right down the center of the fucking lane in life because we're all in this together can we agree what is so hard about this andrew gave me that this isn't hard if i'm not telling you in sports you have to shut up you have a Constitutional right to speak out. If you're in entertainment, singing, acting, sports, they tend to lie. Well, not so much in sports, but in acting and musicians, they tend to lean left. I'm just telling you, like, people are not there to buy your political opinions.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They are buying your time. That's what they're buying. When I go to a country music concert to see like Bailey Zimmerman or whoever it may be, I'm buying his time. In his time, he sings. That's what he does well. I choose to hear him sing live because I like to enter the spirit realm. Okay?
Starting point is 00:51:48 I'm not there for his opinion on freaking Palestine, which he has never offered. His concerts are great. It's not hard. So I had to grate the good. This is the ugly. I had to change the title of today's show. And I promise you, I don't do clickbait titles. If I do, I call myself out because sometimes I'll read it later.
Starting point is 00:52:11 and I'm like, I hate those titles. You know, I hate them. I can't stand them. You hook someone in. But ladies and gentlemen, this may be the worst interview I've ever seen for a candidate. Of course, it's a Democrat. This is Democrat candidate for Fayette County Council, Indiana. Have you seen this?
Starting point is 00:52:32 This is Democrat Jamie West. Hat tip, lives in TikTok, Chaya for, I saw this out of her account. This may be one of the worst interviews I've ever seen folks. I don't know what the hell's going on here, but I promise you. We did our homework, correct, guys? We are 99.99 repeating decimal sure that this is actually real. It's definitely not AI, that this is not a skit. This is an actual Democrat.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You want to vote for this or you want to vote for sanity? Check this out. One decision that I would make that might not be popular for fake. That may be unpopular with some voters. But is in the best interest of the county. Firing all Republicans. I wouldn't let them. I mean, I don't even talk to him.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I don't like them. I mean, they voted against our own state representative voted against her own party. I mean, what do you want me to say? I don't like being around them. I mean, you all did this to us. You all voted for us.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You made this happen, this ice coming into our communities, stealing people's jobs. I mean, you know, There are good Republicans out there. But then there's these maggots. Who are just racist and aren't very intelligent at all? They call you names.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They, I, my, you don't sheriff's nephew, threatened to blow my head off. But, you know, what are you going to do? Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters. We have guns, too. All right. Well, as a reminder, the general election is November 3rd. Folks, that is real.
Starting point is 00:54:36 By the way, if you're listening, Mottlies. Folks, if there was ever a Mottley in the chat. Mottlies for Jamie West. You've given us material forever? I don't allow flags. You've given us material for us. ever. What was, even the moderators like, is this real?
Starting point is 00:54:59 What was you? We have guns to. The moderates like, okay. Okay. And what is with the slurrying of the words? As we say in New York. We are well aware of that. Yes, this woman is, this is very frightening with this woman.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm a big Second Amendment guy. I'm just telling you, this. woman is weird. We say in New York, I'm not saying, I'm just saying, what is with the slurring of the words? Did something happen before this interview? Get checked out. I don't know what the hell just happened there. You see why he changed the title of today's show?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Big crowd today, 45 and a half thousand. Thank you so much, filling up a big stadium. Folks, all right, listen, that was kind of, it was an example of, it was an example of what we're up against. But seriously, just turning back before I get to my guest, Sarah Carter, who is doing an incredible job as our drugs are, incredible. You know her. She has been with you through thick and thin, the spy gate hoax, the Russia hoax. She's been on the border in war zones as a journalist, and she's got a warning for parents.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I just want to say again, your country's on the ballot. I don't engage in cheap, hyperbole. I'm not running. I don't. I'm not a consultant who benefits from your vote or that I'm just a guy who really deeply cares about that flag standing or standing over my right shoulder there. Your country's on the ballot. Please go and take it. The numbers are there. Don't believe in the Democrat media narratives and the doom or slop narratives that everybody in the government who you voted to put in power, magically went into power and turned against you. Yeah, you're right. I definitely needed some money. We were hard on cash, Jasmine. She's like, yeah, man, you guys were really struck. Like, no, all of this stuff is garbage. It's filth. It's an insult to the integrity
Starting point is 00:57:15 and character of people like Sarah, President Trump, Rubio, and others who put their lives on hold to serve the public and are doing a bang-up job over two years. Your country is on the ballot. The alternative is frightening. and talk about the threat of socialism and the threat to your freedom of liberty. And remember, Tom Sauer, Charlie Kirk was murdered and you're thinking about sitting out the midterms? What is wrong with you? Thank you, Tom, for the reminder. We really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That's why I opened up the show with that segment today. Don't sit this one out. Folks, you know we do a comment of the day every day because we, We love our audience. We love our listeners. We pick a comment right before our interview today. We'll take a quick break and get to Saracardo. We give away once a week, $1,776 to one lucky listener review.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You just have to join the live chat at 10 a.m. Eastern Time every single day. And if your comment is picked, you got a chance of the money. Official rules, bonjino.com slash 1776. If you want to read those, our comment of the day today is Sam Smow. Nothing worse than a big heaping bowl. doomer slop. Brother, I could not agree with you. Mark could be sister. Sam could go either way there. But Sam, this is all an op. I just hope you see it. And based on the huge audience, we keep bringing every single day, I can only surmise based on our own receipts that you are seeing through all this
Starting point is 00:58:48 crap. And it's going to become more transparent over time. Folks, the Democrat Socialists of America won primaries across the country. Next, they're coming to Congress. If they win the midterms, They'll reform the police and undo the border controls and let men into women's sports. You don't want that. You are the last line of defense and gopvotes.org is your partner in the fight. Go to gopvotes.org now and make a plan to vote early. If you live in the critical Senate battleground states of Maine, Ohio, or Iowa, early voting is already underway. This week, Democrats are energized and the stakes have never been higher.
Starting point is 00:59:23 We can't afford to have people in Congress who identify as Democratic Socialists and their cronies running the country. That's why I need you to make a plan to vote early, bank that vote right now. Go to GOPvotes.org to find your polling location, vote early, and stop the socialist takeover of America, perfect timing for this.
Starting point is 00:59:41 GOPvotes.org, paid for by Senate Leadership Fund PAC, not authorized by any candidate or candidates committee. I am really elated to welcome to the show not only an amazing friend, an amazing person. I don't want to get all choked up, but an amazing jerked up, an amazing journalist in an era where that's become a dirty word, not in her case.
Starting point is 01:00:09 You know her from the Russia hoax exposing all this crap, the border. Sorry for the long intro, the great Sarah Carter, but she is now your drugs are, head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy and doing a spectacular job. Sarah, welcome to the show. Hey, thank you for having me on, Dan. It's great to be with you. It's great to see your face. It's great to hear you.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You're such an American patriot. Thanks for the great introduction. But without you, without you and the FBI, without you fighting the good fight here at home, every single day, you know, we would not be where we are at today. So thank you for everything you've done and everything you're doing.
Starting point is 01:00:47 That is incredible coming from someone I respect so much like yourself. I really appreciate it. You know, Sarah, you are, the drugs czar is commonly known. You have been movies about this position, you know, traffic and all these other movies. You are the one out there. reporting to the president on the entire ecosystem of what the illegal drug trade looks like. So you're dealing with FBI, DEA, U.S. Marshals, local police, ICBP, you're dealing with everyone.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You're getting the full picture. You know, the war on drug deaths, I'm not going to tell you had been seated that people gave up, but there was kind of an apathy that set in in Democrat administrations and even some Republican administrations in the past, like, you know, we're going to go out there. do the ceremonial fight, but nothing's going to happen. You've been in there appointed by President Trump, and look what happened. And unbelievable, and thank Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, an unbelievable 40% drop in drug overdose deaths. That is a real difference.
Starting point is 01:01:52 People are actually alive today, thanks to this administration's leadership and yours as well. And, Dan, it's a continuing trajectory down. So we're not just seeing, it wasn't just like a big chunk. And it started at 40%. We saw a continuing trajectory and downward deaths. We're still seeing it. We're monitoring that very closely with the CDC and all of our partners. Every three-letter agency, you can imagine.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Why is this different? Because President Trump is treating it as it should have been treated decades ago, going back to 1971, when Richard Nixon declared the war on drugs. he should have done this should have happened at the very beginning we're treating it as america's longest war we're treating it as a war not a happenstance not this is just the way things are this is just addiction this is just use of drugs no because we've seen it evolve from the use of drugs and addiction to as all of the sudden blossoming into targeting of our of our people the american people with poison that means our children are being poison
Starting point is 01:03:00 We are seeing a reduction in the poisoning deaths as well as the addiction deaths. But our children were being murdered and our people were being murdered. And we're not allowing the cartels, by the way, nor our enemy states to operate with impunity anymore. It's over for them. It's done. You saw that in the FBI. We're seeing it across the board, even with the DOW. And by the way, the way HHS is handling it as well.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Sarah, we're talking to Sarah Carter, our drugs are under President Trump. You know, Sarah, one of the things I tried to explain to people that I noticed at the last year of the FBI, but also during my time as a commentator in this space on crime and other things, is this drug war is different. Listen, there's always been overdoses from the tragic case of Lenn bias. I mean, there's been overdoses forever on drugs from cocaine to crack. We get that. And they're all tragic. This is different.
Starting point is 01:03:55 You've got kids now going on to Snapchat or TikTok, order. what they think is a percocet or a Xanax. And it's not. It is a one pill death sentence. That's a completely different fight. That's why I've tried to emphasize to people, even if you're a libertarian or an anarchist completely. This is a different drug war.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And President Trump, and I know you and Cash and I understood this as well as the DEA leadership, this is a totally different fight. This is irregular warfare. That's what this is. This is, you know, unrestricted warfare. This is what our enemies have planned on us. It's the Trojan horse, right? You don't have to fight wars on battlefields in this century, right?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Not even in the past. You could infiltrate a nation without its even capability or knowledge to fight back until it's too late. And what we said is no more. We know where the precursor chemicals are coming from. We know they're coming from China. We know they're coming from India. We know they're not being globally scheduled. we're insisting on global scheduling.
Starting point is 01:05:01 We want our supply chains to be clean. That means from the point of origination to destination, clean supply chains. And if private industry needs to be accountable, and if they're not going to do it, we're going to make sure that they're being held accountable. The nation states that these precursor chemicals are coming from, whether that's China, whether that's India, whether that's Pakistan, whether it's some other nation state that is allowing this to happen, we are going to call. them out and we're going to hold them accountable. I did that in Vienna in front of the UN. I gave my
Starting point is 01:05:33 speech. I was very clear to China at that time. We will no longer tolerate that. That was at the beginning of this year. The president pushed, this is President Trump's policy. This is because of him that we're able to do this. Thank God. And President Trump pushed. And now we're seeing that under President Xi and China, we are seeing that there is global scheduling taking place of these precursor chemicals. Is it enough? No, it's never enough because we understand that all they have to do is fiddle with an analog, fiddle with the chemistry and something new can come out. But we're staying ahead of them, Dan. And how are we doing that? Through the National Drug Control Strategy that I released earlier this year, which I hope outlives and outlasts all of us, because I put chapter one
Starting point is 01:06:19 emerging threats. That means we are monitoring emerging threats consistently through our wastewater testing through our hospitals, through our first responders, and monitoring the supply chain. And that is what is most important. We want to cut off the cartels at the past. We want to cut off our enemy states at the past. I don't want a Trojan horse in our country. Look at what we saw. My gosh, over 1.5 million people. And that's on the low end of what we know, have been killed over the years with illicit rugs in our country. And that's including the poisonings that you're talking about. I can't tell you how many parents, Dan, that I speak to every single day, every single day that tell me my child was on Snapchat or on some social media app and they ordered what they thought
Starting point is 01:07:12 was an Adderall. They thought it was going to help them with their homework. They were in college. They were in high school. They were in middle school. And they never, ever came back. passed away in their room. Can you imagine being a parent and walking into the sanctity of your own home, the place where your child is supposed to be the safest, and you find them on the floor of their bedroom, dead, murdered by pills, by pills, by the way that are pure poison. They are not Adderall. They are not Xanax. They are not Percocet. They are pure poison. And, you know, really quickly, To understand how much poison is out there, Dan, it's not just fentanyl. You know, one of the things that we were able to do with our emerging threats and testing
Starting point is 01:08:00 our, you know, our sanitation systems. So we're not violating any Fourth Amendment rights for anybody out there. We're not going into your house, you know, and testing your wastewater directly. We're testing the sanitation sites throughout the United States. One of the things we saw in the Northeast was metatomede. Medetamidine. You know, it's a rhino trink, right? It's a rhinoceros tranquilizer.
Starting point is 01:08:22 We noticed that there were people that had been coming into the emergency rooms. They were ODing. There was something different about what was happening with them. The Narcan wasn't working. And what we discovered was that it was Metatomodine. So we sent out a nationwide alert to let all of our first responders know and the hospitals know, hey, look, metatomedean is in the United States. It's being adulterated into these pills.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Let's test for it. if somebody is OD, use more Narcan on them, be able, you know, use and emphasize that, use more Narcan. We saw that. We saw xylasein. We saw orphans. We issued for the first time in the history of ONDCP three alerts across the United States this year on those drugs to stay ahead of the emerging threats.
Starting point is 01:09:11 That's how important this is not only for me, but for the president of the United States. And that's why you're seeing these deaths go down. Also, getting the word out to our kids, letting them know that primary prevention is important. But who wants to be enslaved to drugs, right? Who wants to be enslaved and chained to a lifetime of addiction and unhappiness? So we're teaching the kids to look at life a different way, you know, to live life to the fullest extent that they possibly can, to be limitless with their life. You don't need to go to a party and use drugs to have a good time. You know, life is going to open up for you.
Starting point is 01:09:52 You're going to be able to live and live out your dreams as long as you're not shackled to these drugs. And now we're seeing the lowest rates of drug use among youth since 1992. So not only are we shutting down the supply from the cartels, our youth are choosing not to use drugs the way that we've seen over the past, you know, especially under Biden over the past 10 years, but we are seeing over the last since 1992, more than 20 years, this is the lowest drug use among our youth. And I think it comes to the point where we care.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We're telling our children, look, we care about you. We're telling our nation. We care about you. You come first. The national security of our country comes first. America comes first. People are getting it. They're feeling it and they're reacting to it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 We're talking to Sarah Carter, the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, also known as the drugs are. Sarah, you know, you as a former actual journalist, not a fake news specialist, you did actual journalism work at the border and elsewhere. You came into the position with a different perspective. I think you can acknowledge that if this were a non-Donald Trump presidency, a Democrat or even some moderate Republican they love, like a Mitt Romney, type now, whatever. This would be a global story. Forty percent drop in overdose deaths, a massive drop in crime, murder, a drug dealing, burglary, home invasions, a massive drop. The only reason the, what we call the mainstream media refuses to cover this. The only explainable reason is because it was
Starting point is 01:11:35 under Donald Trump's leadership. Now, I'm going to help the media out, and because you were part of this massive law enforcement push in the first couple of years of this incredible Trump president's so far. Here are some things we did that I just like you to address. The FTO designation, the foreign terror organization designation of drug cartels gave this federal government, and they are terror organizations. They're murdering our kids by the day, by the thousands at one point. They are terror organizations. That was huge. Second, the use of Title VIII, emergency removal operations and the mass deportation of criminals in this country, many of whom were dealing drugs. Third, the FBI, Marshals, DOJ,
Starting point is 01:12:15 push for a broken window style type of policing where we were like, hey, we're just going to go out and help the NYPD out on unsolved murders or attempted murder cases. Well, maybe the federal government does. No, the federal government does have a role in that. We made sure the FBI nudged its way into that. And now you see with these couple of items that these are actual things under the leadership of this president. These would be huge stories elsewhere, but they're not because it's President Trump.
Starting point is 01:12:41 It's really sad. It is really sad. And it is massive change in how we're doing things, right? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Well, we said no more. We're not going to do that anymore. And the cartels expected that. I mean, I think they laughed at us for a long time, right? I mean, think about the amount of energy and manpower we have spent on this war and getting nowhere and getting nowhere because we weren't following the rule of law. What is the rule of law? We shut down the border. We untied the hands of our law enforcement. And I traveled the country. I'm here in Texas. I made a stop off at home. I'm heading to Dallas, Fort Worth to meet with Angel families. Actually, today I'll be heading out there. I'm driving, right? I'm heading out there. I want to meet with the families. I'm on the road at the grassroots level. I talk to law enforcement. I talk to U.S. attorneys. I'm with the AG all the time. I'm with the FBI. Our Homeland Security task forces, which is a whole new way of looking at this, which is saying, hey, we are going to work
Starting point is 01:13:47 together as a joint terrorism task force, but not the way we had normally. We are including all of our local and state and we are going after the worst of the worst. That means we are going to extract the worst of the worst out of our nation. We are not only going to deport the bad guys, but we're going to find the people in the country that are distributing the drugs that are working closely with these cartels overseas and we are going to make them pay. Then not only are we doing that overseas on an international level, Dan, I can tell you this. I was just in Colombia. I went there for the inauguration of President de la Speria, who is, thank God, the new president
Starting point is 01:14:29 of Colombia and is working eradicate Toka. This is incredible. I was in Argentina on the ground. I delivered a speech before the International Drug Enforcement Conference held by Administrative Terry Cole there and I was able to get the message across to the entirety of the international law enforcement community. That is everybody from, I could say from the Persian Gulf, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, all the way to every nation in South America and every nation in the Western Hemisphere and tell them, look, the United States, this is Team U.S., and we are going to
Starting point is 01:15:03 clear the Western hem and eradicate these cartels out of our nation and then out of our hemisphere and then hopefully off the face of the globe because we have too much to do as human beings than to allow these cartels to run over us and railroad our nations, destroy our nations, destroy our children and take us away from the real work that we need to be doing. The Western Hemisphere should be the jewel of the world. We have everything. We've got resources, oil, minerals, culture, history, everything. the only thing that stops us from being this beautiful jewel of the of the of the planet is these
Starting point is 01:15:46 cartels and criminal enterprises and we are going to destroy them and I also want to point out that this this battle doesn't come without cost and you know this Dan because you've been in law enforcement your entire life you understand the great sacrifices that our law enforcement officials pay when they fight these guys because they are terrorists they are. scum of the earth. They are nothing but the worst of the worst. They don't care about our children. They don't care about you. And they certainly don't care about law and order. That's why we're going after them. But Hayden Phillips, a Kentucky state trooper, lost his life last week. Lost his life last week on a highway, on a highway as he was, you know, pulling over. He pulled over what he believed
Starting point is 01:16:33 to be somebody with expired tags. He probably had a gut feeling that something was a, off. He had just joined what O&DCP, our Office of National Drug Control Policy, our Haida, our Haida team out there. So our high intensity drug trafficking area team, he'd been with him for only a month, pulls this guy over, goes up to the car, and then is executed point blank on the highway. Here's a guy two days away from his 29th birthday, three people, a beautiful wife. and now they are left alone. So this comes with a price. The bravest of the brave, you know, stand up to these despicable, nefarious organizations
Starting point is 01:17:20 that have made their money off the blood of our citizens and off our nation. And thank God. Thank God for President Trump, for people like you, Dan, for people like cash, for people like Terry Cole, for everyone working together, Stephen Miller, everyone working together, you know, to eradicate our nation of these criminals and to set a new standard. And it's tough. It's going to be a tough fight. You know, people always ask me, are you afraid? Are you afraid of, you know, you make a lot of statements on, you know, Spanish television, when you're overseas against these cartels. And I said, no, sure, everybody's afraid. Nobody wants to come in contact with these. monsters, right? But that's what allowed these defarious organizations to fester and grow into the cancer that they have been, is because we have not set a standard and said no more. We are going to work together. We might not always agree. We might not always think that, you know, this idea is the best idea, but we are going to find a way to work together and we're doing it,
Starting point is 01:18:32 and we're going to fight them together. That means, Every single angel family who's lost a kid, every single cop on the beat, everybody up to the president of the United States. We are a family. We are one nation. Regardless of our political divide, regardless of, except maybe if you're talking about Ilhan Omar or Mam Dhani, maybe I can put those guys to the side. But, you know, that type. But everybody else, we're together and we're going to fight them. And they're not going to have room. to move. They are never going to sleep another night. They are going to be with one eye open for the rest of their damn lives wondering who's coming after them because we are done with them. It's over. Just like you took care and Cash took care of Kensington, you know, and rooting out the bad guys, that is what we're going to do everywhere around the globe. We're just going to pull them out,
Starting point is 01:19:30 the bad roots and we are going to throw them away like the garbage they are. You know, I'm glad you brought up Kensington. We're talking to Sarah Carter, our drug czar. Sarah, when I had first gotten into the FBI, the announcement came in February. I got to work right away. And I remember reading a Wall Street Journal op-ed. And I forget the gist of it. But there was a mention of this open-air drug market.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It's somewhere in New York City that was just not only an eyesore, but was a public safety disaster for the community and how it had just festered. So I get in there. And I used to do these SAC calls, the special agents in charge of all the offices. And I would do, they would, once a month, I would meet with each of them. So every week I would meet with a quarter of the country. And I said, guys, ladies, I don't want to see the same. We're going into these open-air drug markets, you know, get in touch with DEA, everyone else.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And we're just going to clean it up. And I said, bring in the bearcats, bring in our ERT teams. I don't really care. and I had called one of the members of the leadership team in our Philadelphia office, and they said, hey, Dan, there's this Kensington drug market that has been a cancerous, open, rotting sore in the community forever. We've got a case. We're ready to roll.
Starting point is 01:20:47 So I'm glad you brought that up because I want people to understand your work, President Trump's work, the great DEA, and the FBI agents who went in there and cleaned that place up, that you've seen what it looks like before and after this Kensington drug market. This is real, like touching. feelable, material difference thanks to the leadership team in charge of
Starting point is 01:21:06 your government now. Oh, absolutely. It's a complete, it's a complete difference. And I mean, they're working day in and day out. I'm it's going to take some time,
Starting point is 01:21:14 but we saw a complete difference. I was just there recently in Kensington. I'd been there many times before. And I couldn't even walk through the sidewalk years ago because it would be so many bodies on the sidewalk.
Starting point is 01:21:26 There was so much drugs being sold, people ODing. It was, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrific. I would see children getting off the school bus and then trying to walk over the bodies as they would get home.
Starting point is 01:21:40 People that were laying on the sidewalks. Sometimes we'd have to shake them just to see if they were alive. And the cops would have to do that. Now I can tell you it's a lot different. We have a police station in Kensington. It's amazing to see the Penn Police there, right? To have a station right in Kensington
Starting point is 01:21:57 where they can make a difference. And this is a tough job for a cop, because there's still drugs on the streets. Why? And you brought it up. You call it the drug market. It's this harm reduction issue that we've been dealing with in our country. It's not harm reduction. I call it let's lead people to death, right? Because that's what these NGOs are doing. I want people to live. I want to get people off the street, give them another chance, get them into treatment. Look, and if they've made the choice or if they're too far gone, we've got to find medical treatment for them. We can't have them on the streets
Starting point is 01:22:29 endangering our children or endangering themselves. But you have NGOs operating in some of these states. You know, I saw it in California. I saw it here. They're handing out pipes. They're handing out foil. I've got cops telling me, hey, look, I would arrest people for having this type of paraphernalia on them. And I've got, you know, NGOs passing them out on the streets right now to the people
Starting point is 01:22:50 that are addicted, which is crazy and insane. And by the way, sometimes the states would actually offer it. That would be the craziest I'd ever see. But right now we're seeing a difference. And I walked through Kensington and I talked to families. I talked to one mother. This is an incredible story. She's from Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 01:23:09 She has lived there almost her entire life. She can't afford to move out. She's a single mom. She told me this horrific story about her child when he was five. He's now in middle school. I had a chance to meet him too. And she said when he was five years old, he had gone over to the park right across. They called it Needle Park.
Starting point is 01:23:27 And he had gone over to the park with, one of the relatives to go play, you know, on the swings and, and have some time outside of the house. And a woman who was completely out of her mind with a needle in her hand, ran up and stabbed her five-year-old son with a dirty needle. She said, it was so terrifying that for the next three years of her child's life, she had to take her kid to the doctors every three months, every six months for blood tests to ensure that her child didn't have HIV, didn't contract it, or didn't contract hepatitis. So it was a big deal. It took a lot of her life. She said, now, she said, please, more police, more FBI raids, whatever you can do. She said the community
Starting point is 01:24:15 has changed since your operation. And it's changing for the better. You know, this used to be a community where people could shop, could walk with their kids, they would go to school. It's every day. It used to be middle class America, right? Community where I talked to cops who remember when they were kids and their moms would take them out and they'd go shopping in Kensington. America should not look like Kensington. In fact, no place on planet Earth should look like Kensington and the way it was years ago.
Starting point is 01:24:48 this is what I talk about when I talk about the Trojan horse, right? It was almost as if we were blindsided or we slept through what was happening in our nation. Not only did we have an opioid crisis, and of course we all know the story about that, Purdue pharmaceuticals, all of the stories that have come out, the addiction, a lot of opioids being prescribed by doctors, and then the cartels, of course, taking advantage of that and saying, wow, we've got a bunch of addicts in the United States now. They're not just in urban communities where we were hyper-focused on at the beginning of ONDCP, you know, under William Bennett, which was the focus on crack cocaine and, you know, heroin use. Back then, 12,000 to 15,000 overdose deaths a year, if that, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:37 instead we ended up with hundreds of thousands of Americans losing their lives to the tune of 1.5 million. And then under the Biden administration, that number soared down to over 112,000 people in one year. And I still think those numbers are low. And now we're seeing the trajectory go back. Why? Because we are actually taking on the cartels as FTOs and we're actually working together. But no place on earth should look like Kensington. that is the definition of a war zone. No mother should be terrified to take her child to a park to play, no matter how poor, no matter how rich.
Starting point is 01:26:27 It doesn't matter. Socioeconomic doesn't matter. I've traveled the world just as you have. I spent a good portion of my career covering the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And even in war zones, I never saw something quite like what I saw in Kensington. like what I've seen in Oregon, in some places in Oregon, and some places in Seattle, in San Francisco. Yeah, even some places here in my home state of Texas in San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:26:56 We have to change the way we think, and I know we're doing that. I know we're doing that. But it has to be long lasting for the future of this nation and for our children and for our children. You know, I'm getting older. I've got kids, I've got grandkids. I do not want to leave this world unless I've made it a better place for them. You know, I'll feel better about meeting my maker one day.
Starting point is 01:27:26 If I know in my heart, I did everything I could to give them a better life. And that's what we have to do. That's what we have to do. And we have to remember first and foremost that, you know, we are Americans. You know, I look behind me and I see the flags and I see, you know, things that, you know, my husband and I have all around me, actually, that my husband and I have done, the sacrifices that my family's made, the sacrifices that you've made, the sacrifice that, you know, Kentucky State Trooper Hayden Phillips made, you know, when he gave his life for this nation.
Starting point is 01:28:03 That means something. That means something. And we should never forget that. Sarah, I can't thank you now for doing this interview. for the sacrifice you made of your own, your safety, your time. These are not easy positions. I applaud anyone and everyone who steps up and puts aside a comfortable life for this. You're doing an incredible job that drop in overdose deaths is one of many headline numbers.
Starting point is 01:28:31 And again, would be a huge story in any other administration. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump in picking, find people like yourself. Sarah Carter, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Dan. You got it. Folks, that's a real American patriot right there. I mean, through her work in journalism, you saw, I mean, you know her from the Russia hoax.
Starting point is 01:28:53 That was not the start of Sarah Carter's career. She's reported from war zones, the border. She's an actual journalist and not in the slurway journalists apply it to themselves and the fake news media. And now our drugs are. And those are some really amazing results. And parents just, like, give you a bit of them. piece of advice, take her morning seriously. When your kids say, mom, I know, dad, mom, you've said this to me
Starting point is 01:29:18 a thousand times about drugs and pills. I get it. Say it 1,0001 and then say it again the next day. Until the point they're so annoyed, they don't even think about taking a pill from some unknown source other than a doctor. Super important. Please, there's anything you ever took from this show. Take that. Make sure you check out Sean Ferris coming up at 1 o'clock. Rumble.com slash Sean Haley every day at noon. Vince at 8 a.m. All Times Eastern rumble.com slash Vince. Download the Rumble app to watch this show. It is free. Download it on your smartphone, your tablet, your TV. You can also watch on the web on your computer. Just go to rumble.com slash Bongino. Click that follow button. We'd really appreciate it while you're there.
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