The Dan Bongino Show - Is This The X Factor In The Midterms? (Ep. 2605)

Episode Date: September 29, 2026

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All America all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Vonjino show. Folks, we have a absolutely stacked week today of interviews and news. So I just want to kind of tee up the whole week. We had obviously Vince Colonace this morning. I hope you didn't miss it. Interviewed Vice President Vance. It was a lot of news.

He broke on that. You can check that out at rumble.com slash Vince. There's a little picture from this morning. I have a short clip of the interview coming up in a moment with that. I've got an incredible interview lineup this week. And by the way, a lot more ahead. So please stay tuned. We're going to be doing some really incredible interviews right before the election.

We've got a great lineup. Today, I have the current FBI deputy director who took my spot after I left Christopher Ray. I'm going to talk about some new numbers. The FBI just put out under President Trump's leadership. that are really incredible. And you'll hear later, so don't miss the interview today. It is wide-ranging.

Dear media people will explain to you why President Trump's shift in strategy on crime led to this massive decrease in crime. I know you don't want to give the president credit or his team. I get it, but we're just going to shove it down your throat. So now you have to write about it if you want to be honest, but you don't. So we're going to talk about that. And some of the massive changes that happened at the FBI

under the leadership team, of Cash Patel and me and Al Cash Patel and Christopher Ray, are the current deputy director. I'm going to get to that. Also, tomorrow, I know many of you love this guest. I used to have them on all the time on my radio show. Do you remember Dr. Peter McCullough? He was one of the truth tellers early on during COVID

about some of the limitations and dangers of some of these treatments of vaccines. He will be on tomorrow. We are going to address everything. Ivermectin, the spike protein. Are people still in danger from the vaccine? We're going to hit it all. It's going to be an incredible interview.

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He's like the guy who understands the point better than anyone. He's still confused. This one, that one. So again, huge week of interviews. Our colleague here at Silverlock, Vince Colonais, had just an incredible interview this morning with Vice President J.D. Vance. Please watch the whole thing at rumble.com slash Vince. Broke a lot of news on there.

However, this is one of the pieces that's going to be related, excuse me, related to the content of today's show, which is we've got an election coming up and there's an X factor. I'm going to explain to you in a moment what that X factor is. Because a lot of election analysts out there with the draft. credit air quotes are just downplaying this. And I think it's going to turn out to be a disaster for them if this X factor turns out. I use that term deliberately, pun intended. Here's Vice President Vance on crime, the border, and his just spectacular effort,

the Vice President Vance-led task force to crush fraud against the government and theft of your scarce tax dollars. We've never seen anything like this. It's a quick about a minute or so from the interview again, watch the whole thing on Vince's channel, rumble.com slash Vince. Check this out. A lot of the problems that exist in American society would be solved, not all of them, but just by deporting illegal aliens. So lower housing prices, lower rents, lower violent crime statistics. One of the reasons why we have a historically low murder rate is, of course, because we've been supporting law enforcement, but also because we've gotten a lot of violent criminals out of the United States of America. First of all,

we're obviously trying to protect the American taxpayers' money. Yeah. So you write a check to the IRS every month, every time you, you know, every two weeks you get your pay stub, and you see the amount of money that is taken from you by the federal government, don't you want to know that the money that the government takes from you is actually being spent on the things that should be spent on? Okay, that's number one, very important. But a second, and I would say equally important thing is, you know, the social contract in this country is that we all have responsibilities and obligations, but also rights and privileges as United States citizens. We have to pay our taxes, but we're also protected by the world's most powerful military. It only exists. You're only going to

pay that money to the federal government if you know it's going where it's supposed to go. And so when we allow fraudsters to get rich off these programs, we destroy the basic social trust that I think makes American society so generous and so compassionate and such a good place to live. I don't want to live in a low trust society where people get rich from fraud. I want to live in a high trust society where people get rich from like doing something important and valuable. Folks, I want to reemphasize this point the vice president, Vance, just made. I am not a supporter of big government. I want to be crystal clear from the start,

so there's absolutely zero confusion. Everybody understand? However, where you have societies, where there is big government, notably Scandinavian societies, that are getting away from that model, but still have a lot of tax expenditures on government services. Sometimes you see people who are content with it

because they feel like, all right, you know what, if I'm going to have big government, at least have the money going to efficiently spent on schools and other things. I'm not a supporter of that. I think the free market has better solutions. But if you're going to do it and you're going to spend a lot of money, the vice president is 100% correct. If people stop trusting the system that it's going to the Leering Center

and a bunch of people in the country illegally who don't belong here, who are just causing us a public charge if you watch yesterday's show and costing us money rather than contributing, forget it. The whole system collapses. If we're stuck with this big government model, which I hope we're not, then at least can we get the fraud out? Is this really? My gosh, what did he say there that's even remotely controversial, even to Democrats?

Watch the interview. It's definitely worth your time. Okay, because I hate teases. I freaking hate teases. There's nothing worse than listening to radio, watching TV, and a host teases an interview in a third hour, in the first hour, a thousand time. Just tell me what you want to talk about. What is the X factor coming up in this midterm election?

Folks, it's not complicated. But I think it's being discounted dramatically by doomers and gloomers who want you to believe this election is over. Donald Trump is lost as whatever. The kids call it the Rizz, his pizzazz, his jenisequeque. I don't care what you call it in this language or any other. Folks, you've got to produce some data to back that up that Trump voters are not going to turn out. Donald Trump, President Trump, has said,

many times, campaigning for candidates in this midterms. You've heard it yourself, act like I'm on the ballot. Why is he saying that? You think he doesn't know what he's doing? He's won multiple presidential elections. You think he doesn't know what he's doing? Here's CNN, Harry Ann, I sent this, Justin, did I not email you? Is this real?

I want to make sure it was real and recent. Because really, it so goes against the grain of what you've been told about these midterms. Nobody's going to show up. Everybody hates this. This all sucks. Everything sucks. Doom and gloom. We want Biden back or whatever.

We want Sleepy Joe back. Here's CNN saying, you know what? The MAGA support for President Trump is just about exactly where it was before. Really? This is the X factor. You show up. We'll win. Check this out.

Okay. MAGA GOP on Trump. In the 2024 election versus Kamala Harris, he got 99% of the MAGA GOP vote. Perhaps surprisingly, I might have thought it would be 100%, but it was 99%. Compare that to his approval rating now with the MAGA GOP. It's 98%. That is, there's been no real decline in MAGA support. A staggering loss, Justin.

He was at 99, effectively like 100% margin of error approval amongst MAGA Republicans. Justin's like, I can't believe it. The fall. The fall. Andrew's like, this is horrifying. He fell to 98%, which still within the margin of error could be 100 or could be 96. It's 100%.

It's a dramatic drop. It's over. It doubled. One, right. It's over. It's over, fellas. It's over. He was 1% off 100.

He's now with two. Justin's correct. The people double. That's how morons interpret this stuff. Folks, elections are a math issue. That is it. I use the analogy yesterday on radio, Bongino report radio in the morning,

Bongino report radio in the afternoon, the podcast. This is not a football game. Would the Bears win last night? With their backup, QB, whatever? There's a thousand variables that happen in a sports game. What's the weather like? that people have the right cleats on? Is the quarterback sick?

Is he hung over from a weekend party? Is it the 1986 bears who partied the Superand still kick the Patriots ass? Those are not variables here. If you vote, we will win. It is not complicated. You ever take logic in college? Was it modus tonins and modus pollens? Am I getting that right?

If you vote, we will win. We have better numbers than they do. You want to go back to the Biden era? I've got a whole segment coming up on that. Folks, the numbers coming out, the steel plant information yesterday. You've got the Fed gross domestic product, GDP numbers projected to be a stunning 5%.

Yes, I understand I'm not diminishing diesel prices and other things as well. I'm not diminishing that at all. I'm asking you to compare that to where we were before. The numbers have to matter. Because if you vote for the Democrats, we are going back to the, the abomination of the Democrat Biden years at 9% inflation, unemployment, people just pissed off

about the economy, a global stage we're getting smoked, leaving Bogram and Afghanistan. We can't have that. You're going to hear more good news coming out today. The FBI just released the series of numbers about safety in the streets. I've got the deputy director coming up at the end of today's show. Please don't miss it, media people. We're going to explain to you why the Trump administration did this. It was not a freaking accident.

Stop pretending it was, and crediting Joe Biden. You look like idiots, okay? I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. He's there doing it now. And how I left a model in place with the director that he took over that worked. Folks, it was, that job was the best job I ever had in my life. Contrary to what Dumeristan and podcastistan wants to try, because they just like attacking you, this show,

because they're just green with everything. They're like, how does he get the numbered? I want those. You can't have them. Sorry, you got to produce a better product, and your product sucks. It was the best job I ever had. But yesterday, one of our partners over there, who was appointed a co-depity director position, Andrew Bailey.

Andrew Bailey was a good man. Attorney General, Missouri came over, provided an unbelievable amount of help. I was there about, I don't know, three, four months or so, and we worked together like a great team. I only bring this up because who's back with his fake news and fake sources or real sources who were fake news. Fusion Ken Delanian.

And I'm here to help you media people out debunking the nonsense. Here's Fusion Ken. So former Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey has announced he's leaving his post, his co-dead deputy director. Now he'll come with, here we go with the anonymous sources, okay? Folks, there's no controversy here at all. There's no scandal. I would tell you, I'd get out ahead of it.

It's not in my interest to like, ooh, I would tell you. You know people are going to leak anything anyway. Even if under some perverse alternate bizarro Dan Bongino I wanted to hide it, which I don't, it would leak anyway. There's no scandal. Like me, where people wanted to create a fake scandal, oh, you'd serve the year. I told him I was going to serve a year.

I don't know how many times I got to say this. That was the commitment. Andrew had the same timeline. This is not a big deal. His message to the workforce said he was leaving. for family reasons. Here come the anonymous sources. Bailey was said to have been annoyed. Do you guys read this? Annoyed about the recent emotion of two senior counterterrorism agents in the Washington field office over there handling of an investigation into harassing phone calls to Steve Miller's wife.

It's just nonsense. It's just nonsense. I was there when this one that it's nonsense. It's totally made up. That had nothing to do with his decision at all. Zero. It's Fusion Ken with, of course, his diaper wearing source, former FBI Zero, who can't stop crapping in his own diapers, apparently, and it has some questionable website presence on, like, friendfire. I don't know what kind of friends you're looking for. That's his source. Here's Fusion Ken, of course, known otherwise by the Intercept,

which is a liberal outlet. This is from 2014, known as the CIA's mop-up man. Email exchanges between the CIA and Ken Delanian, who worked for AP at the time, who previously covered the CIA, showed Delaney enjoyed a closely collaborative relationship with the CIA, explicitly promising positive news coverage and sometimes sending the press office entire story dress for review prior to publication. There's Fusion Ken. Folks, it's not even a story about the FBI or Andrew Bailey. Andrew was a great partner, a great partner.

And thank you for your service, sir, spending time away from your family. and your children to come to D.C., not a place most people want to live, to do it for the year and doing a valiant job. Thank you, sir. But to have this a hole just sit there and crap all over him to quote CIA mop-up man, Kandelanian, and to have people believe this guy over and over, despite a documented history of outright BS, is just embarrassing. I was there, that story is made up, completely made up, by a bunch of diaper-wearing losers on the outside. outside who proved to be nothing but ops against this administration from day one. Then there was another rumor out there that Andrew Bailey and Cash were like butt and heads.

And this is this one I found hilarious, that they want weeks without meeting cash in a direct. Really? Folks, you understand there's a meeting every single morning at 8 a.m. Where Andrew, me, and Cash were every morning. It's called the President's Daily Brief and the Director's Conference room. How would I know that, guys? Justin's like, weren't you there for that? I was.

Who was sitting right here. You want me to do the table arrangement? Here it is. Here was Cash at the head of the table. Across was the briefer, the CIA briefer. Across from the CIA briefer was me to the right of cash. And right to my right was Andrew Bailey. He was there every morning.

What weeks are you talking about when he was on vacation or something? they went weeks without meeting. You're just making it up. You're just making that up. They were butting heads. About what? You think I wouldn't know? Andrew had the office right next to me.

You think he wouldn't come in? Hey, Dan, me and Casher Button heads. You're just making it up. Folks, it's not a story I'm telling you about the, yeah, it's about the, no, it's not. This is a story about a midterm election coming up and everything the media tells you, almost everything that involves any significant figure in the Trump orbit.

Pete Hankseth, Marco Rubio, Bobby Kennedy. Nearly every single story by anonymous sources is made up. I'm just telling you it's made up. You can discount it. You can roll it in a ball, liberal people, and I'm so tired of the BS. We had an amazing year. The workforce over there has been completely transformed. You better like the right president.

We'll be right back. They had an amazing year at the FBI. We had about 10% turnover from people who weren't willing to get with the new FBI that was back to doing law enforcement, not weaponization. Look at the numbers. You're going to bash Bailey on a way out the door for what? A 20% decrease in the murder rate? 53,900 violent crime arrests to adding 2,700 task force officers.

So we get local police officers working with our agents. 31,000 violent crime members, 3,000 kilos of fentanyl seized, 11,000 child victims located and identified, 5,000 trial predators. These are all up dramatically. 4,000 FTO-related arrests, foreign terror orgs, 1,000 individuals prevented from conducting terror attacks.

10 of the FBI's most wanted captured. And you're going to crap on Bailey out the door over a BS story. Give me a break, man. Again, you can, you can, You can shove that right up your caboose, man. I'm so tired of these losers. Folks, we got an election coming up.

Just disregard their nonsense. Fusion, Ken, and others, they go to these diaper-wearing losers, losers whose families are ashamed of them. I mean, actually ashamed of them publicly, are ashamed of them. And they use these people to crap on you and to crap on the president.

The good news is tying it to the beginning of the show. Even CNN's Harry Enten has to admit, it's not working. Trump has 98% MAGA approval. He had 99% during the election. That's effectively statistically the exact same thing. Whatever you're doing, it's not working. People see right through your crap.

All right. I'm going to talk in this next segment about a really important development here that's going to make this, my humble opinion, I think the explosion of this artificial intelligence technology is going to make being a liberal very, very difficult in the future. Very difficult. I got a quick segment on that. Then I've got some stunning numbers that came out yesterday that should impact your vote. I hope they do.

We're interested in data, right? Not BS? Let me take a quick break. I'm going to get to that. Please don't go anywhere because if you are a liberal college or you are a member of the lying media, it's going to get really difficult going forward to keep this shtick going. Quick break. Hey, you know, cars used to be a whole lot simply.

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I think he's going to have some interesting thoughts on this. I'm reasonably confident because he's thought about this at length. But if AI is done safely, artificial intelligence, if it's done safely, that is numero uno number one, correct? We all agree. If it's not safe, I don't want it. Okay. If it's done safely, it is absolutely going to decimate the liberal intelligentsia in our university systems, that dominate our university systems and pump out generations of liberals, which would fracture the entire movement and the NGO movement. It will also destroy the liberal media. It will. You're just not going to be able to lie anymore going forward if AI is honest. If, again, I said done right,

You're not going to be able to do it. There is simply no chance going forward. We're years away. It's not today or tomorrow. You're going to have effectively, if you're on X, a massive community note system everywhere, where things can be fact-checked in milliseconds that you would have to look up on Google,

which would sideline Republican pages for like 20 pages in. You're going to see in lifetime Gemini and other things, if it's done accurately, just destroy liberal narratives about police randomly murdering, you know, unarmed black men in the streets, Obamacare, government-run health care, none of the effective narratives that have gotten young people to join the liberal movement are going to exist in the future. They're going to be destroyed if it's done right.

Okay, Dan, some receipts. Here it is, folks. They're just a study that came out. This account, you see, the Superman X. It's a real study. So they put AI at Harvard, they did an experiment, pitting an AI agent against their own Harvard's top-tier classrooms. Well, note this.

The AI didn't just win. It embarrassed the institution. Students using the AI learned more than twice as much as the students in the elite Harvard classroom. They scored 30% higher on the final assessment, did it in less time. Folks, I'm just saying, man, I'm just telling you, the chances of these liberal institutions charging students, charging students $100,000 a year to indoctrinate them and try to teach them things that AI can teach them in less time and make them smarter. It's finished.

The monopoly is over. It's done. Sianara, have a nice day. It's also going to destroy the media with an ongoing community note system that is going to effectively stop Russia collusion hoax and impeachment hoax narratives in live time. You can't teach the AI to lie and then make it effective. It's going to be useless. You can't do it. You can't tell the AI show liberal bias because nobody's going to use it.

You can do it, but your product's going to be trash. They're just going to go to GROC or somewhere else where, you know, Elon wouldn't allow that. And they don't want that. They don't want to lose market share. And folks, I want to just to the young. younger folks listening who are understandably concerned. And listen, I get you, I feel you, man. The fact that a bunch of AI tech bros,

and I hate that term, in this case, it's true. These are just people, some of them, who had no experience in the outside world or limited experience. They started talking on college campuses to our, you know, young graduates. You know, good kids. They went to college.

You didn't do anything wrong. We're on campuses. We're going to cost you jobs. You losers. You suck. You remember these speeches, guys? They were like, what the hell are you guys? I say. Why would you say that? Remember that one guy? Better get on the train or it's going to run you

down to whatever. Probably the dumbest freaking marketing pitch I've ever heard in the history of marketing a product. It's like telling people like, hey, we've got this new cola and it tastes like dog. Give it a shot. You'd be like, I don't want to taste that. Sorry. Sorry. That sounds kind of gross. The numbers don't back that up. AI tech bros. This is how you. you need to speak to people. One, don't lie to them if they are costing people jobs and be out in front of it and explain why. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a data guy.

I'm a receipts guy. The data, I showed you last week in that Wall Street Journal piece, does not back up the fact that AI is costing people in mass their jobs. It just doesn't back that up. It may, and that's a warning sign, people need to work. But what AI is doing is becoming additive, not subtractive. It's helping people be more productive, which in some cases is causing companies to hire more workers. This is why that marketing pitch was so freaking stupid.

Not only was it dumb, it was wrong. Receipts incoming. Check this out. They also told me that all the jobs would be gone by basically now. I was rolling my eyes, and I'd like to think that they're on the West Coast right now talking to someone else telling this exact same story about how they were chastened and wrong. So why is this? The unemployment rate is 4.1%. It's basically sustained basis, the lowest we've ever seen. Productivity growth, you can squint and argue it's picked up a little bit.

Total factor productivity hasn't picked up really at all, arguably. But just nothing you can see in the economic data that incredibly obviously screams anything commensurate with the magnitude of this technology. My sense from looking at the labor productivity numbers is that it's a little bit more than, squinting that you can see that productivity growth has been relatively stronger in sectors of the economy

where AI has been adopted. But exactly to your point, the unemployment rate is close to what the Fed would deem is maximum unemployment. The prime age employment to population ratio is at multi-decade highs. And so what explains that? Here, across a lot of our research, what I see in our data is that it looks more

like a skill-biased labor augmenting. technology than a technology that outright automates and displaces jobs wholesale. Ugland in the chat. He just called it too. If you're a data guy, data guy, not date, a guy. We got to add that to master debater. Words you can never say fast. if you are in fact a good debater and you are a master debater, maybe we should call them a hat-tip key, a Jedi debater. You know, he loves it's Star Wars, right? Data guy, do.

I'm not vouching for these guys. I don't know them personally. I'm just telling you what they're saying is accurate. What are you saying? What they're saying is accurate. There is no evidence right now that AI is costing younger folks in mass their jobs. As a matter of fact, I was reading a story the other day. Forgive me, I don't have it with me, but I promise you, it's a real story not making it up

about how younger generation workers who are working at big companies who are really savvy with AI, then Muttley's in the chat. You see what you started? How younger generation workers who are coming into these big companies are putting together these ridiculous like PowerPoints. I mean that in a good way or presentations, I should say, PowerPoint used generically, that are blowing away senior members. management, who are just not used to or comfortable with AI like they are.

Now, they do say that sometimes the problem is they become so reliant on AI, the younger workers, that they'll be asked a question in the presentation, and they don't know the answer. So they got to get better. It's an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal yesterday. That's where I read it. But it's a great story about how this AI thing is going to be amazing. It's that one we have coming up later. We just got to do it right.

And to show you, too, that I know a lot of people out there are saying, hey, This AI, liberal companies are going to corrupt it. That's a possibility. I'm not discounting that. However, folks, AI is not like search engine optimization. You can't just bury a result on page 20 about Obamacare or the Russia hoax and make it go away. If you ask AI to lie and the agent does something, you'll probably be sued as a result of your faulty algorithm and it could be catastrophic. AI is far more powerful than the early SEO search engines.

Early search engines. You can't teach it to why. So you get things like this. Did you see this video? Hat tipped the great clown world, a good follow on X. So he asked it, generate for me a video of what the country would look like under 50 years of Democrat rule. Now, if it's a biased AI, you would have what? You know, people walking around the streets looking all happy with their kids, with flowers, maybe smoking a doobie here and there, but saying, oh, we love this.

This is what the AI generated. I'm telling you, like, this technology, if you ask it to say the, to tell you the truth, it's going to. Check this. Citation issued for improper mass compliance. Have an equitable day. Seriously? Attention, citizens. Bread ration distribution line now forming at window three.

That's a great video. This is why I'm, all right, it's one video. It's not a huge sample size. But this is why I'm telling you, going forward, there are two places that have, that have, I would argue to you, the cancer of liberalism, the fertilizer for this cancer on this body politic, have been liberal universities and the media. No question about it.

There are other things as well, NGOs and elsewhere you get it. I understand. I doubt anyone, you say, Martin, is in the chat. There's a great video. It is, you're going to see things like that over and over and over again that are going to make it over time. We're a couple of years away from this.

Really difficult for these two institutions to exist. Here's another, I saw this ex post about Muse, Facebook meta, just released an AI agent. And again, there's going to be some issues with it. But this is a really funny story. He says, I'm cleaning up the suburbs with Muse. He took a picture of these mess of wires on a pole in his neighborhood that were driving him crazy. He asked Muse to contact Verizon and get the wires cleaned up. It said, Muce went to the website and got to work.

He goes, there's a 0% chance I would have sat in a Verizon support chat over this. I would have just been annoyed by this poll every time I walk by for the next five years. Someone should do something about it is now a prompt. Apparently, the Muce agent just took care of this. There's the picture of the poll. This is a little thing, but it's not a little thing. When you multiply the hours saved for little things like this, you're going to have better neighbors, better education. Look, you already fixed it.

We need guardrails. We need it done right. I want the world to blow up. I don't want a bioweapon unleashed upon us because the CCP used AI. But folks, you can't ignore the potential here either. And the thing that excites me the most is getting back to a truth-based society because sadly, right now we're living in a post-truth society. Not with you. I read your emails.

I see your comments in the chat. This show has persistently been a top five live stream in the world thanks to you. Self-praise stinks. It's not self-praise. It's praising you. I can only watch ones. But for a lot of people, and you saw it with revelations yesterday and podcast to Stan and others,

you're seeing their grift collapse in live time. Because they existed in a post-truth world where they lie to people. And then when the truth kicks them in the gonads, all of a sudden, you see panic breakout. I've warned you about false prophets and messengers out there who just tell you what you want to hear and not the truth. Folks, it's led to a really disturbing place where even some people who pretend to be on our side are falling for cannibalism theory. Cannibalism theory has affected the left forever. The left will eat themselves alive. They will cannibalize their own movement when they're out of power because they just don't want to stop canceling people.

And when the right ignores them, they turn on themselves because there's power in canceling. Unfortunately, a strain of that has infected our movement too. And it's all because of lies. Bedrocked in charisma, I'll give them that. But they're lies. And now you're seeing them all get exposed. Money trails. humiliating backgrounds.

I mean, just train wrecked stories. The people who went and serve, they tried to turn into the bad guys and invert the truth. That's how you get things like this. Listen, I got to tell you, I am mildly obsessed with this whole entire Lindsay Clancy story. The horror of it itself is enough, the murder of these three children.

However, the fact that we've inverted society, and this is where I'm going with this, that the good guys have now somehow become the bad guys with a small group of lunatics who live in this post-truth world. Folks, I'm really worried about this. You have this poor juror who is now public so he can use his name.

He was on Hannity last night. I'll play that in a second. You have this poor juror. The juror needs an attorney because he did not want to vote to basically acquit this lady, this Lindsay Clancy, for the already admitted murder for three children.

And how, this guy's the enemy now? He's got lawyers attacking him. Crazy Karen's attacking him, green-haired lady's attacking him, he's got to hide his address, he's worried about his kids. What the, he's going on here? What kind of world do we live in? This is what happens when you embrace cannibalism theory and you turn the good guys into the bad guys because some idiot from podcastistan who craps in diapers all the time just told you something.

This is the poor guy's attorney with Kaylee McInney talking about what happened to his client. This is unbelievable. This is really, I mean, unbelievable. literal sense that I'm having a hard time believing this is happening. Check this out. We learned about your client in the midst of a trial that gripped the nation. Everyone has an opinion on the case. And I want to take us back to the first moment when we learned about the holdout juror who you gave me the opportunity to speak with just moments ago. Michael told me in our conversation that his full name is Michael Peggy Desrenville. And let's go back to when we

first learned about him when the jury four person in the Lindsay Clancy case brought a note that said that Michael, he was not named at that time, refused to follow reasonable doubt law. Did Michael ever have reasonable doubt? Michael had zero doubt. He had zero doubt. No doubt. How much clearer can you be? He had zero doubt in his convictions based on a strong body of evidence.

And in the American jury system, the verdict has to be unanimous on the criminal side. And the guy's getting doxed. Some lunatic's going to probably show up at this. guy's house. What the hell kind of world do we live in? Murder your three kids. And the one guy who recognizes that there may be an issue here, he's the bad guy. Folks, you see the inversion here?

It's not about me, but I've experienced it. And I wish I could data dump my cerebral cortex into a thumb drive and show you what I saw. The second I left to go do the whole public service rat, the second I left. But after not even like five seconds after swearing in, the attack started from people who need to invert the truth who knew that they had to make the good guys the bad guys. And a small number, but some people fell for it. That's how you get this. This guy's the good guy. How is he not the good guy?

Here he is. This guy's a hero. Does anyone in the chat disagree? Seriously. Anyone in the chat disagree? This guy is an American hero. Here he is on Sean Hannity last night. The holdout juror.

Thank the Lord. Thank you, Jesus, for this guy. Here he is on Hannity explaining all that. And listen to him, cite his faith. Good man right here. Check this out. The ones that can't speak for themselves, the ones that can't defend themselves,

and the one that can't fight the battles. And those are Cora Dawson and Callan. A little bit about me. I want to thank God for my Catholic faith. I want to thank God for bless me with the ability to love my daughter. And foremost, I would like to thank everyone, every individual that have support me throughout this difficult situation. Your prayers, your emotional support,

Your psychological support is a tremendous to my heart that I feel, that I sense, that I know. I do want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Man, this chat's tearing up right now. American flags in the chat for this hero and patriot. Absolutely revolting, disgusting. a freaking abomination what's happened to this hero. An abomination. Are they a quick poll in the studio guy?

How many people in the, you guys like and look forward to jury duty? Anyone? No, you know. Jasmine, you? No. No? But, you know, we will do it if we have to. It is, you know, we trial by jury.

We get it. Gee, you look forward to jury duty when he get the summons? Hell no, Ghee. Gee, he doesn't even like, you know, Guy's a stupidly just to know. You think people are going to want to serve in a jury now? Look at that chat. Tear it up. Tear it up. Only we can do this in the chat. Only this show. Tear it up. The guy is a hero, folks. Whenever you see an inversion like this, all of a sudden, what, Pete Hegsett's the bad guy. We should impeach him. Pete Higg said, really?

Next thing, you know, I hear the other day attacks on Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy's not moving fast enough from my he's why are you are you smoking crack are you smoking the krizak are you crazy how do the good guys become the bad guys the answer is in a post-truth world a bunch of stupid people diaper wearing stupid people because they have nothing going on in their lives their families hate them their kids hate them they have zero they have to say stupid and controversial things to click bait you into their show and unbelievably people fall for this It's going to get harder going forward to do this. I'm telling you it's going to get harder.

You're not going to be able to isolate people from the truth moving forward in this new AI ecosystem where it can do things in microseconds. It's going to be really difficult to continue the grift. We've got an election coming up. I can't tell you how many people out there still believe like comparatively. And I'm not talking about MAGA folks. talking about independence and even Trump Democrats. There are a lot of them who still believe like, you know, I think we've got to vote to get the Democrats back.

Why? What could you possibly have enjoyed about the Biden years? The inflation, the de-fentistration of our military, the government spending that basically modern monetary theory blew out federal accounts, the interest rates that are hiking now because of those blowouts, what could you possibly have liked? Okay, Dan, produce the Trump administration's record. I do every day.

We've got, what, 35 days to an election? I'm not making this stuff up. Here, a lot of folks are telling you out there, Iran, total loss. I get it. People have an opinion about Iran. You were entitled to your opinion, period, full stop. However, facts matter, folks. That war is not lost at all.

Hugh Hewitt had a post about this this morning. What are you talking about? What's been lost? The Iranians control the street. They do? You're going to back that up? Oh, wait, put that one back. Oguzerger, yeah.

This is insane. Oil exports from the Persian Gulf are almost back to pre-war levels. Meanwhile, Iranian exports have literally hit zero. Blockading Iran's blockade actually worked. Iran can't stand for this much longer. You can see the data yourself. You can see the data right there. Yeah, I'm not telling you you're not entitled to your opinion.

If your opinion is we shouldn't have gone in, we shouldn't be there, you're entitled to that. I disagree. That's a great part about being Americans. We can butt heads and shake hands in the end. I'm just telling you if you're basing it on the fact that, oh, the Iranians definitely got us in the street. That's just not true. That's why oil prices, although still high, are coming down. And the diesel prices, they are high, no question. That's got a lot to do with other factors, too, including the Russia-Ukraine war, where a lot of the diesel supply has been impacted by that ongoing war. A lot of that is out of Donald Trump's hands. Here's another one announced yesterday.

You know, manufacturing jobs in the United States. You've got electricians and skilled tradesmen making $150,000, $250,000 a year on the cloud buildout for AI. You also have steel manufacturing back in the United States. Here was Fox News breaking yesterday. Trump, too, announced the largest steel plant in American history. He did a presser at the White House to be built by Misabi Metallics in Iowa. White House official confirms.

This is a good thing, right? These are high quality jobs, even if you're a union worker. These are high quality jobs. Here's another one on the federal workforce. We've been told by Republicans, rarely Democrats, Republicans forever, Republicans back to the first republic. We're going to reduce the federal workforce. They never do it, except for now.

Christian Heinz. The federal workforce is shrunk by more than 336,000 bureaucrats since Donald Trump took office. I'm just giving you the numbers, man. I'm just giving you the numbers. You can see the charts yourself. Every Republican has talked about this. We're going to shrink government. They never do it. They don't shrink anything. They just shrink your wallet. There's the numbers right there. Bureau of Labor and Statistics. It goes down dramatically. Justin, throw up the fentanyl deaths. Here's another one. We want fentanyl deaths down, correct? No one wants any kid to die from fentanyl overdose. if the Trump administration came in office and went to war on drugs,

we've been hearing about the war on drugs, right? Since like Ronald Reagan, Andrew's like, I don't know, I wasn't alive for that. I was. Remember folks in the chat? You remember the Nancy Reagan thing? Don't do drugs, just say no. Remember all that? Well, people haven't been saying no.

So Donald Trump crushed these terror organizations, and Trisha McLaughlin puts out, fentanyl deaths are now down 55%. Heroin deaths down 89%. That's a direct result of closing the board. enforcing the laws of the books. The war, this is the first war on drugs where we've actually had significant results.

You would think people would be asking about best practices from Donald Trump, which we'll get to with FBI Deputy Director Raya next. Nobody cares in the media. Nobody cares. They just want to crap on President Trump. Here's a segment from Fox. You were told by the Dumers. We're not deporting anyone.

Nothing's happening. I'm so sick of this BS, man. Folks, I live through this. I don't understand how these two stories can be true. Cue up the Bill Malugian report with me on Fox with Mark Wayne Mullin. Both of these reports cannot be true at the same time. If you looked them up yourself, when do you guys may want to try this, okay? Early on during my tenure at the FBI, there were all kinds of complaints. The federal workforce being diverted to immigration enforcement, the liberal media was

complained. I can't believe it. And then you've got Duma saying, nothing's happening, nobody's being deported. Folks, both of those stories can't be true. I live through it. ERO, emergency removal organ, their operation over there, and ICBP, DEA, FBI, it was an all hands-on-deck effort to deport people here illegally. Don't tell me it didn't happen.

I'd live through it. So again, Dumer podcast, the standards out, don't vote, nobody's being deported. You're just full of crap in line. Here's Bill Malugian on Fox, correcting the record about a memo went out, apparently about triaging some resources. It doesn't mean don't deport people here illegally. It means go for the violent criminals and get the networks around them, and you're going to get almost everyone who's here illegally eventually.

And of course, Dumaistan used it to, oh, nothing's happening. Ignore these idiots. They're just lying to you. Tell them to take their diapers off and mommy to change them. Check this out. two borders are Tom Holman about all of this. He reiterated what President Trump told me. There is no pulling back of any kind on their immigration enforcement agenda. Homan told me that after record setting ICE arrests in June, July, and August, right now September is on track to set an all-time

new record for ICE arrests. Folks, do we believe in numbers or not? Is this not directed at you? I'm sorry. I'm just understandably kind of ticked off like you are. But Vice President Vance told you the same. Just to be clear, Justin, your friend Dan Bongino, you've known for 10 years, who's been with you through thick and thin, is lying.

Vice President Vance is definitely lying to it. We're all lying to you. Tom Homan. Tom Homan is definitely lying. Mark Wayne Mullen, 100%. He's like. Everybody's lying? Bill Malugian, who's done

untold number of hours on the border. Everybody's lying to you, except the guy who, who wears diapers and is lied about everything on the record. Cash is out of here tomorrow. That was like 200 days ago. Everything they tell you is a lie, including that they don't need diapers.

Everything they tell you is a lie. They just want you to lose. And folks, the economic numbers, put up the Steve Moore tweet on inflation. I am not diminishing the cost of living problem, please. at all. Inflation is pernicious. It's a cancer. But we have a contrast to make. Do you want inflation under the Democrats or inflation under President Trump? Here are just the numbers, folks, Steve Moore. Through August, inflation under Trump is average 3% versus 5% under Biden.

Most basic consumer products rose faster under Biden. Gas, beef, and coffee, notable exceptions. Here's the numbers in a chart. You can look at them yourself. I'm not telling you inflation is not a problem. I give you the good news and the bad news. I'm simply telling you that it is a huge problem under Democrats. It's a problem President Trump is at least trying to contain and his record is better. Put up that bar graph if you could. Because even in Trump 45 and Trump 47, it was still dramatically lower. Here, Trump 45, 1.9% inflation. Biden, 4.97. Trump, 2.98. Those are just the numbers. annualized CPI. You have a choice.

You can pick the blue graph or you can pick the red graph. The choice is yours. Folks, here's another voice you've trusted. Let's get outside of government because maybe I don't know. You listen to the Dumeers and everyone who you trusted for 10 years, Pete, me, Rubio, whatever, went into the government and we're all deep state now, whatever. Listen, the deep state is real.

and the turnover at the FBI proved it and at DOJ. But that was us who reformed the place. You really believe everybody turned on you and when it's, who's dumb enough to believe that? It's so ridiculous. It's candidly like laughable. Like I laugh when I see it now. Here's Victor Davis Hansen, not a government figure.

He's not some page shill or whatever the hell people say. Victor Davis Hansen, who's been around forever as a. trusted voice of conservatism and a reasonable voice on the state of politics. Here he is on Ingram talking about the economy and how the media, I'm sorry to tell you, is one with a lot of people. They have, there are people out there convinced they want five and six percent, nine percent by inflation back. It's a small group of people, but here he is talking about how it's unbelievable how

the concrete is dried on this narrative for a lot of people who are impressionable. Check this out. All right, Victor, I've been very frustrated as, people know, watch this show because I don't think enough people are actually making the case for what Trump has accomplished. If they're going to vote against Trump, well, before they vote against Trump, look at what's going to happen if all of that is pulled back. Do you agree with me that the narrative in the media is everything's bad, everything's bad, everything's bad, I don't think it's been countered. Yeah, I'm kind of under criticism for writing column after column

to that effect. And, you know, when you have the Atlantic Federal Reserve projecting 5% third quarter growth, record low poverty, record low per capita family income, and 140,000 new job, it goes on and on and we're not getting that message out. I think it's just a matter of time. We only have four weeks, and if they can spend the money they have and get that message out, and then they have to very quickly say something about the Iran war, that we are strangling them and they're losing control of the straits of our moves. Oil's down to $93 today. And if we keep it up, we won't not have to retaliate.

They'll implode, but the price of oil is going down. And that has to get across to the American people. I mean, guys, what's the next step for Dumeristan and podcast stand? Victor Davis Hansen sellout? Definitely. You know, he needs a few bucks for people. bottom, like, are you serious? Everybody's lying to you, everyone. Or maybe there are people out there who are lying to you that are in fact being paid and have an agenda to make sure we lose

the midterms and the next presidential so that their guy gets in there and they can get a lucrative, you know, consulting deal or marketing deal or do stupid TikTok videos from them. Do you ever think of that? Occam's razor, right? Kiss. Keep it simple, stupid, given all possible, explanations, always accept the one that requires you to assume the least. Keep it simple. If it doesn't make sense to you that all of these people are your enemy, Tom Homan, Hanksett, Rubio, Vice President Vance, me, Cash Patel, Andrew Bailey, Andrew Bailey, the very conservative Attorney General in Missouri. They all turned against you. Does that even make sense? If it does, please seek help. Stop it. Get help. Seriously, listen to Michael. You need it.

Stop it. Get some help. You guys are getting good with that. You're actually pretty quick. That's not like scripted or anything. I just throw that in there. Do you guys have like a board of buttons you just hit when these things come up? And what's the other lady? I don't do.

I don't know flags. I don't know flags. This is the Dumerous Dan. I don't know flags. It's so freaking stupid. They cannot wait for you to lose. And I'm telling you, as more of this information comes out, you're going to be like, I should have listened to Dan.

He was right. I know. All right. So we started the show with the X factor. Folks, the X factor in this election. And I'm playing, I'm doing this deliberately, by the way. I'm going to play Frank Luntz coming up next. I get it.

It's a child. We don't like Frank Lund. I get it. That's the point. The point is for me to say, I, you know, I support President Trump. I worked for him. I love the guy. I get it.

Some of you may say, Dan's not objective. Forget his analysis of the election. Fine. I don't think that's accurate. but fair enough. I can be objective about things. Frank Luntz is not some big MAGA guy. Neither is Harry Ent at CNN. But I told you in the beginning of the show,

there is a massive X factor in these midterms that I believe is not being calculated in Dumeristan or the polls. It's not. And it's allegiance and loyalty to President Trump and his results for people who see through the crap. Here's Frank Luntz on a liberal network.

Again, no friend to the president saying the exact. thing that, hey, man, I think a lot of people are underestimating the Trump effect in this midterm. Check this out. Trump can keep the president Trump can keep the house and keep the Senate. And he has proven how powerful he is and make no mistake to every viewer watching. Donald Trump does have more influence on more races than any other Republican, even than Ronald Reagan. I've never seen a Republican as engaged and involved as this guy. And it matters.

Folks, it's Frank Luntz, okay? The guy is not some big MAGA guy. He's not one of the front row Joe's at a MAGA rally, okay? I do this on purpose. Not because I necessarily believe anything, but they have no reason whatsoever to say to Democrats, hey, be careful, you may be missing something other than it being true.

That is the X factor. I was a little too excited for that. A lot of blackout coffee this morning. We went through probably three or four things of blackout this morning. Between like security guys and everything. We go through tons of it. You know every day we pick a comment of the day

for our 1776 contest. We give away $1,776 once a week. Our comment of the day today, wow, you got anything? Yeah, you day where it's premature capitulation or something. He's got some, this may be some Viagra for that or something. Bongino.com slash 177060, the official rules. Mr. Vindam and Iranians control the straits because the gays are thrown off the words. Whoa!

So that elicited a major response apparently in the chat. Mr. Van Damme, very, that very, very, I like what you did there. I like what you did there. They do. That's, and all of these like, you know, queers for Palestine and stuff, please, I'm really begging you because I don't want to see anybody get dead. Even people I'm not particularly fond of because of your ideology that I think is this just Palestine.

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The deputy director of the FBI took my, spot after we left, a very competent guy. He's been as leadership has been fantastic. Deputy Director of the FBI, Chris Ray. Chris, welcome to the show. Dan, Dan, thanks for having me. And to say this is surreal for me to be talking to you behind a mic and not behind a desk would be an understatement. Really appreciate the opportunity to talk about things. Well, listen, man, it was a pleasure to work with you and the team there. You are your CV, your resume. You're very heavy in the counterterror space. You ran New York as the assistant director in charge.

You're now in the deputy director position. You and I both know there are a lot of what I call level 10 decisions. You and I've had this conversation. I mean, this is like beating the deadest of horses. I've told you this a million times. When you asked me, what's it going to be like? I said it's going to be really difficult because the decisions you're going to have to make, no one else can make.

That's why they're on your desk or someone else would have made him. And one of the decisions we made early on when we had you up in New York and elsewhere is, I don't want to say refocus. because the FBI always had violent crime squads, violent crime divisions, everything for bank robbery to gangs. It's not like this was new, but I think we can all agree. Like the focus, I think, wasn't there. And we implemented this new through summer heat,

almost like broken windows style policing, where we were going to expand our footprint with state, local, territorial, tribal law enforcement agencies, and we were going to bring bad guy scalps. We were going to arrest bad guys, and all I cared about was getting them off the streets. you have since taken that summer heat footprint and turned it into summer heat 2.0. And I think you have some pretty outstanding numbers to put out there.

Yeah, Dan. I mean, for me, as you know, I spent all my street time in violent crime. And so for us to see that refocus, right, the director's priority, crushing violent crime was really a breath of fresh air. Not only for me, but for everybody. And of course, we launched summer, Summer Heat 2.0 this year, and I'll go through some numbers now. I'm sure we'll have some happy banner back and forth because they are better than last year. But honestly, Dan, this was this was this was this was one of your passion projects when you were deputy director and really took off. You came up with a name. You came up with the concept. And then we've got guys like Joe Perez who have spent their entire career in the violent crime space who really put this into action in the field for us.

And just to kind of give you an idea of our of our stats this year, Dan, we have just south. of 9,000 arrests, which I believe in Summer Heat 1.0, I think you had about 8,600 arrests in the violent crime space. We recovered 5,000 weapons, 5,000 firearms, which was roughly about 120% increase from last year's summer heat 1.0. We also seized about 687 kilograms of fentanyl, which is about a 63% increase from last year, and we've identified or located about 1,400 children, which is just over a 30% increase from last year. And so those numbers are phenomenal. One of the things I vividly remember you telling me when you told me when I was taking over you is don't let this summer heat thing die. We started out really good. Let's make it even better

next year. And as much as I'd like to take credit for this, this was your concept that you birthed. And I'm just building on the momentum that you created. Well, you're being very nice, deputy director, Raya. You are, you being very kind. But when I saw you up in headquarters after I left, I was coming up for a retirement for one of members of my staff who had stayed a little bit after I departed the position. I said to you, I said, Chris, you know, I need this to continue because I want to show the American people that the administration's plan, the template, Eufap warrants, in other words, the way we rewrote our policies on unlawful flight against prosecution. It's just a fancy way to say how the FBI needed a vehicle to help.

We need our agents to be scope. So for the media people out there who don't want to ever ask this question because they don't want to give the administration, the DOJ or this current FBI any credit, when Chris was up in New York, Joe Perez was running crim and we had all of these folks in there. We said, what's the problem? Why can't the FBI go help the New York State police, whatever it may be, on, say, an attempted murder case? And they said, well, you know, these, we need a federal in or else our agents aren't scoped and they could, you know, be sued. So I said, well, let's rework these UFAP warrants.

And we did how unlawful flight against prosecution, which is a vehicle for us to get in there. We did it. So what I said to you is to, a long story short here, I'm sorry, Chris, I don't mean a filibuster, but you and I have shared so much in common. I walked in and I said, I need you to make me an irrelevant part of the story. That's the part he's leaving out because he's being nice. I said, I don't want to be this story. The fact that it was my idea or Cassius idea or President Trump's idea, it was the leadership

from the White House. And I want to show people the template is what works. It's not about a character. And you showed that, too, in making my numbers, but look, Paltrey, you guys did it even better. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And it really took off, not only at headquarters, but really nationwide. I think a lot of people got behind this.

A lot of people were, you know, 9-11 happens. Dan, as you know, and we as an agency swing that pendulum to the right to national security. Justifiably so after 9-11 happened. I think all of us in the Bureau were waiting for that pendulum to come more center and focus back on some of our violent crime things. And so when I talk to SACs, when I talk to agents, intel analysts around the country, I can't tell you the amount of people that are thankful that we're really pushing hard into that space.

And even if you look at just the national numbers, right, Dan, we're seeing. some historic lows in the violent crime space as a country. About a 10% decrease in violent crime in general across the board. And in addition to that, we've seen a 20% decrease, almost a 20% decrease in the murder rate across the country. And obviously, a lot of that has to do with our state, local, and other federal partners. But that is also a direct result of us pushing into that violent crime space. We are working those criminal, those complex criminal enterprise cases and we are taking off the heads of the snake and I always talk about when I was a when I was a gang agent in Houston Texas I worked a case in a small small

community called Freeport Texas we took the 10 most violent criminals there and we worked a mass drug conspiracy and Vicar case on them we took them out of the picture and then what we saw a year later in that same community was a 50% decrease in violent crime in that community and obviously there were more than 20 violent crimes, violent criminals in that community. So that's an idea of how this push from the director, from the president, how this push into that violent crime space has contributed to those lower numbers. And this administration has been nothing but supportive. I think you and the new leadership team would acknowledge that. Not only if they, it's not just that they've been

supportive, it's that they've been actively pushing for this saying, listen, violent crime is a national security threat. No one's taking their eye off counter terror. We'll get to that in a second. had a big interdiction this week, in addition to others that have happened. However, this is critical. You were having been in a leadership spot as the basically the agent in charge of the New York field office, not the SAC inside joke, which only Chris knows. He was the, remember that? Like, no, no, I got it right.

I'm good. I know, I got it. For those who don't know, it was a, we had an interview about a potential spot that opened up and Chris thought I had it wrong. I'm like, no, no, I'm right. And he was a little surprised, but glad it worked out. So one of the things that were early on, I think you can agree because I did, and I know you've continued these leadership calls from the special agents in charge

around the country. I did them once a week. I broke it into region. So at least once a month, every single SAC and the assistant directors in charge in charge of the bigger offices, Washington, New York, and L.A. We're always on there. You were on those calls. I think we can both agree there was a little bit of resistance early on to the resource allocation

into the violent crime space. And one of the reasons is incentives. They just, the banding, the promotion banding, the threat banding, the way we were evaluating people and human resources, violent crime really didn't play a role in promotions. And, you know, white collar did and other things. So these guys are just doing what they've been told to do because that's how they were going to be advanced in their career. So early on, I think they didn't believe us when we said to them, you know, Cash and I both, we said, guys, listen, we're not kidding.

Like, we're looking at your violent crime numbers in addition to CT and CI and others. And there was some hesitation. I think it took a few months, but I think you're right. Once the feedback from the agents in the field who were like, hey, I came here to be a cop, I didn't come here to be, you know, some political enforcer or whatever. Once that concrete dried, this thing really took off. Remember those agent calls? You'd have SACs. They would be competing with each other to tell you how many stories about, you know,

FTOs they broke up and cartels. Once the concrete dried, I think it was really successful. Yeah, absolutely. I think the other thing that gets lost when we push into violent crime, you know, our relationships with state, local, and other federal partners, those are mostly built on violent crime or violent crime in our criminal portfolio, right? our state locals, and that transforms and that transforms over into our national security portfolio because that they see how we can help something that's very important to the state

and locals, violent crime, and they're willing to give us, when we help them, they're willing to give us resources and TFOs on the national security side that we see through our JTTFs or even our counterintelligence assports where these state and locals don't get as much bang out of their buck, but they're willing to give us those resources and protection of the greater good. We're talking to FBI, current deputy director, Chris Rhea. You know, Chris, one thing I always object to in some of the biased media coverage, and some of it's been, even some of the left-wing outlets have quietly started to acknowledge, you know, belatedly that, well, maybe it was a different approach.

It's not just how we recategorized our ability to use these UFAP warrants to help state and locals and get involved and get properly scoped. It's not just the promotional incentives where we told SAC, Hey, go get us violent criminals, man. You just mentioned something. I really hate it when they say, oh, you know, like I played a clip earlier, as a matter who was a media guy, you know, claiming somehow that we're like stealing state and local arrests.

And I'm like, brother, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You got a guy in the street who's a gang member wanted for attempted murder. Do I really care if he's in the New York, if he's in Rikers Island or if he's in, you know, MCC or I don't care. Just get him off the street. If we have a tool, cell phone tracking technology or something we can use to assist the locals, we're going to do it. It is such a stupid view. And I think what's even more kind of a positive going forward is you just kind of said it.

Listen, the FBI's relationship, it's very regional, but with locals sometimes has been strained. There's been kind of a big dog attitude. And I had one SAC one time tell me, well, listen, we're not cops. said, no, we are cops. That's a compliment. That's a greatest compliment of all. You know, and we may have different tools and a bigger budget, but where we can help, we're going to help. So I think the two things is we're not taking anybody's numbers. We're getting bad guys off the street. We don't care where the numbers came from. And you just nailed it. Like the relationships now are a thousand times better where they'll come to us on potential JTTF, joint terror task force

matters and other things. CI matters. And I think it's only going to get better going forward as long as we keep this approach. Yep, absolutely, Dan. And I remember distinctly when we were rolling out Summer Heat 1.0, I remember a phone call with you where you were very adamant of, I don't care if they're federal arrests. Those would be great if they're federal arrests. I don't care if their state arrest.

I don't care if their local arrest. I don't care if they're local arrest. I don't care if we provide assistance and somebody else and goes out and does the rest. You were very adamant about I just want these bad guys, these violent criminals off the street. And I really took that to heart. And I think the rest of the Bureau took that to heart. And we just kind of got to work and got after it with our state and local partners.

Yeah, I mean, Chris, imagine telling a, you know, it's a mom in Eastern New York, Brooklyn, who's got some drug slinger around the corner like, ah, the FBI is going to stay out of this one because we're not going to get a shit. Like, we're not going to check a box. It just was it was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And I'm glad everybody's bought into that now. And the numbers show, like I said, I said, get me out of the story, make it about the White House leadership, the model, and don't make it about anyone personality.

And the best thing you can do is when you pass the baton to the next day, he does even better numbers than you. It'll show the model works and it's not about personalities. Obviously, there's a leadership component. However, that's not the whole story. Let me move on to a couple other things. The White House leadership on national security presidential memorandum, otherwise known as NSPM 7, this White House has been as serious as a hard attack about we are not going to allow

politically motivated violence in the United States. whatever happened before, those days are over. But you've had some amazing results over there, Prairieland and others, in conjunction with Steve Miller and others at the White House working on the national security portfolio. If you could talk about that, I think the listeners would really be interested. Yeah, absolutely. This is probably one of the things I've really dug into deep since taken over for you, Dan.

And that is, and that's this NSPM 7, a national security presidential memorandum 7, that President Trump issued, look, it's no secret. There has been an uptick in political violence, government violence, crime against the government, violent crime against the government. We had to do something to get our hands around that. And so that was the answer. That was the administration's answer to that, which essentially made the JTTS, the local JTTFs, that 56 of them all around the country to include our national JTTF at headquarters,

the enforcement arm for this particular, for this particular memorandum. And what we did at headquarters is we looked at this threat and we realized a threat was much like how we handled the Iranian threat. There are components of this threat that are criminal. Obviously we see it all the time with violent protesters. There are parts of this threat that are counterterrorism related with some of these left-wing extremist organizations that seed in to these protests, which are largely First Amendment protected, but these violent left-wing extremists seed into there and create chaos and violence. So there's a CT part of that. Believe it or not, there's a CI part of that with influence and how they are influencing, you know, everything in our society. And there's also a cyber part of that.

Cyber, and I know we're going to get to that later, cyber kind of goes around, hits all of our threats at this point. And so we realized that and we stood up what we're calling the Joint Mission Center, the JMC. And we've taken pieces from each of those divisions, counterterrorism, criminal, CIA, and cyber. And we've put them all under one roof, much like we do with the Iranian threat mission center, which I know you're familiar of. We have all those folks talking.

In addition to that, we brought in Department of Treasury on board. We brought IRS on board. We brought an HSI on board. And we've created this mission center to kind of de-conflict, push leads out, connect the dots, and make these cases, are around the world because the violent protester that shows up in Seattle is also the violent protester that shows up in New York that shows up in Houston and so we're

connecting those dots and in addition to arresting and convicting and disrupting these violent protesters we're attacking the money which is why we have a IRS and DO Department of Transfer Treasury with us we are attacking the money as you know you take away folks if you take away criminal organizations money, you can really cripple them. And we know that money is being cycled through these 501c's that look legitimate on the surface. We know money is being cycled to support these violent protests.

And we're connecting those dots, following the money, like Director Patel likes to say, we're following the money and we're dismantling these enterprises. And I mean, listen, the results speak for themselves. You know, we're not here for talking points. Like, what are the numbers? You have the first successful Antifa prosecutions, you know, an American, history and that just atrocious attack. And I bring this example up often. Well, listen, the role I'm a civil libertarian at heart, First Amendment is the First Amendment for a reason. However, the First Amendment

doesn't entitle you to throw rocks and Molotov cocktails and shoot at a Portland courthouse. It just, that's not in the first, that doesn't say that. And notice, whereas, and their prior leadership teams, that was just allowed to fester. People show up every night, beating the crap out of our law enforcement officers at this Portland courthouse. Do you notice how that just, see, that story just seemingly went up. Well, it didn't just go away. The answer is there was leadership on it that said, hey, protest all you want. You crossed the line.

You're going to jail. And I remember being in those meetings. You were in some of them too, where we were very clear about this. Once that line is crossed, if it's a trespass or whatever, we have to send a message you're going to jail. It was kind of the Rudy Giuliani approach when I was a New York City police officer to civil disturbances and riots. You know, I used to say to people, you know, why did we not see that, you know, many riots under Rudy Giuliani, unlike prior leadership?

The answer is, you know, the first person who threw Iraq went to jail. The second person who threw Iraq went to jail. What happened to the third person? There wasn't a third person because the first two went to jail. So there's been real leadership there. Let me shift gears quick because I want to get some couple different. Can I say one thing? Yeah, please.

Say one thing on that just because I think that's important. I've really got accredited our partners at Department of Justice with A.G. Blatch and the aggressiveness that they've shown on. of these violations that were never really prosecuted before, namely the 875 interstate threat statute that we've been prosecuting a lot with these guys and then also the online harassment statute. So really that aggressiveness with Department of Justice has really helped us put some meat behind going out and really taking these folks off the street. That's such a great point, Chris.

We're talking to FBI, Deputy Director, Chris Rea. We are, Chris and I work for the Federal Bureau of Investigations, not prosecutions, not the FBP. If we investigate, put together probable cause, and then hand it over to an assistant United States attorney or United States attorney or an intake United States attorney, and they say, hey, we're not going to prosecute. There's nothing we can do.

We're not lawyer. I mean, some FBIs may be lawyers, but they're not there to be lawyers or there to be investigators. So having that DOJ leadership where they'd say, like, hey, listen, we'll take trespass. We'll take, you know, interstate, you know, across interstate lines. We'll take all that. And we'll bring it and prosecute it is, you know,

Yeah, a really key component. I'm glad you brought that up. Chris, one of the things when we got in there early, Cash and I that we noticed was, man, I hate to say, but the use of technology was just dreadful. The artificial intelligence, I mean, baby steps. They say, you know, crawl, crawl, walk, walk, walk, walk, then run once. Like, because once you run, there's no slowing down. So we implemented early on when I got there in AI program.

It's been very useful. I don't want to go into too many specifics, but when you say CT, Chris is referring to counterterror, CI is counterintelligence, spy catching. It's been very useful, I think, in some of the projects we're starting in that case. We have to go a little slower on criminal work. You don't want hallucinations and things like that.

But you've had some tremendous successes in the cyber division. I know you guys, you know, because we've spoken about this, just as friends, listen, I'm concerned about the potential for an AI cyber attack and things like that. Tell us about some of the stuff going on in Crim Cyber over at the FBI under the new leadership team. Yeah, hey, we talk about AI, Dan. This is something that's really near and dear to my heart.

And when I take a look at the last 18 months, with Director Patel's leadership, obviously with you at the helm for the first year, I think this is one of the spaces that we have grown the most. And we've grown a lot in 18 months. And we've changed course and we've done a ton of reforms. But I think this is the place where one of the places we've grown the most. So to kind of give you an example, we, when you all took over, we, I think we had one AI use case in the FBI at the time.

I think my last talking to Shannon Perry, who's over that now, the operational director over that, I think we're up to somewhere around 150 or 160. And AI is, you know as well as I do for sitting in the chair, our ability to collect information has far exceeded our ability to analyze information. And the net result of that is that we sit on a ton of risk. And that concerns me as a deputy director. I know that kept you up at night as the deputy director. And so we need to develop these AI solutions to triage information, bring important stuff up to the top and then analyze the most important. I think the important thing about AI people need to realize is AI for the most part,

no matter what solution you're doing, whether you're doing an investigative solution or translation solution or large language model. What most people have to understand is there's still a human element to that. This is mostly just a triage tool. It brings information to the top, but there's still human eyes that need to look at that and analyze it. We just don't blindly follow AI. And I want to give you a quick example of that. You're familiar with our National Threat Operations Center. But for your viewers there, that is where all the tips come in to the FBI, hundreds, if not thousands of tips a day. And a lot of it is nonsense. You have to kind of work through it and figure out what's the reality, what do we need to be concerned about and what is just someone who might be emotionally disturbed or a chronic reporter who kind of talks nonsensical things.

And so we've implemented an AI solution to triage those tips and bring the ones that are the most concerning that need to be actioned right away to the top so we can action them right away. There was a case several months ago in North Carolina made the news, but we used an AI solution. A tip came in that would have normally gotten buried. We would have gotten to it at some point. It probably would have taken us days, weeks, maybe even months because of the amount of tips that came in. But we implemented this AI solution. This tip rises to the top. So instead of looking at it in hours, weeks, or months, we looked at it within minutes.

We realized that there was something to it. It involved a school shooting, a potential school shooter, in the top. North Carolina, the watch standard took that lead, immediately pushed it to our agents out in the field. We were immediately able to disrupt what would have been and what quite possibly could have been a school shooting incident in North Carolina. And so that's kind of a nuanced example, but that's an example I think will really resonate with your audience, Dan, of where we are using AI and where we are leveraging it to keep the country safe. Chris, this was a huge concern of mine when you were there.

You just said something I want to kind of double down on now that you're in the chair. You were on the receiving end of a lot of my phone calls. Remember, there was that office tower shooting in New York. You and I were working that all night, a horrible incident. And one of the first things, I know you can't attest to, I would ask when I get on the phone, once we got the subjects, you know, PII is in for personal information. I'd say, Chris, do we have a guardian? In other words, do we have any information we were, you just said sitting on, which is accurate.

That's a great way to say it. Like, we were sitting on a bunch of stuff, and it's not an excuse. It's an explanation that we just didn't have the manpower to appropriately, I think, go through every single thing at Entock. The way, I mean, or else, what we would like to do is we'd like to send an agent out on the thousands of calls we would get. And every single one, but that wasn't possible. So we had to use instinct, law enforcement instinct. We don't have to do that as much anymore. We can use the assistance of this collective AI brain to say,

hey, you may have missed this needle in a haystack, which there's no, we can't fail here. So I would say, hey, do we have a guardian on this? And thankfully, the answer was typically no that we had not had, or if we did, we had done something about it and we're limited in our, but that is, that's where you're going with that, right? We sit on a lot of stuff and we have to be able to find things that the human eye may mess.

Absolutely. We not only have to find it, Dan, we have to be quick and find it. The way that threats move now, we don't have time to take two weeks to analyze something. The flash to bang on a lot of these, on a lot of these school shooters, counterterrorism targets, and even gangsters, right? Even gangsters, it gets quicker and quicker because they're leveraging technology, just like we're leveraging technology. And one of the things I have to credit Director Patel and Attorney General Blatch with that they did for us. is eliminated so much of that political, bureaucratic red tape in order for us to start using these

AI solutions. We moved more in that 18 months in this 18 months in the AI space than we have in the last five years. We still have some work to go, but we are much better postured and we're leveraging our AI solutions much better now than we were 18 months ago. That's such an important point, Chris, listen, the government, it doesn't, Democrats Republicans, they're not known for being the most efficient. They're just not. And, you know, even little things, when Cash and I were there early on, even little things, like, you know, what we, we were destroying former agents' firearms. Like, it was just the dumbest thing.

I'm like, why are we doing? Oh, Janet Reno said so, like, what? We haven't changed this in decades. So with the president's leadership, the national security team over there at the White House, AG Blanche and director Patel all in alignment saying, hey, we don't have time. time. The bad guys are already using this advanced technology. You want to lose? I don't want a mushroom cloud over New York. I agree with you. It would never have happened without that that kind of oil to get the gears running. And thankfully, they did that. You kind of teed me up for

the next question. Again, you have a significant background in two spaces, violent crime, and encounter terror. That's where I first ran into you. You were the D-A-D, in CTD at the time, counterterror division. And we were chatting in my office about these things. And one of the things we were talking about was the president's leadership on the FTO designation. FTO is a foreign terror organization. These designations were traditionally for, you know, ideological groups. And listen, of course, that's the right thing. However, the president said, well, if you've got a drug cartel, you know, cutting people's heads off and putting them on pikes in the middle of the street, intimidating our border agents, coming to the United States, wiping out hundreds of

thousands of people casualties with fentanyl and other drugs every year. That kind of sounds like terror to me. That FTO designation by the president unlocked an enormous amount of potential for the FBI to get involved with our DEA partners, our U.S. Marshall partners, ATF and elsewhere. I think it's been really an incredible moment. And I really thank the White House for doing it. But given your CTD background. That was an enormous help. Yeah, absolutely, Dan. Look, we have been working drug cartels the same for 50 years, right? I've been around drug investigation for 23 years. We had been working the same way for 50 years. Obviously, the drug cartels, they've evolved the last 50 years. And really, that designation that the president gave us for making these transnational

gains and drug cartels, foreign terrorist organizations, that opened up a whole suite of tools that weren't previously available to us on the drug cartel side that we were using on the national security side previously. And really, when you talk about that FTO designation, you can't not talk about that and talk about the creation of the Homeland Security Task Forces, which all we did there in the Homeland Security Task Force is take that JTTF blueprint, which has been so successful for the last 25 years. We kind of sanded the edges and refined it a little bit and took that same blueprint and put it over on the criminal side with Homeland Security Task, with our Homeland Security Task Force. So not only are we prosecuting drug runners, seizing dope that is coming

into the United States, seizing cash that is that is destined for the cartels, but we're now using a whole of government approach that we hadn't previously used when it comes to those drug cartels. We have Department of Treasury involved. We have sanctions involved. We have Department of War involved and they have a different skill set, a different set of capabilities, a different set of talents that we didn't previously have before. And we are really focusing on kind of goes back to what I talked about on our criminal enterprise investigation with the gangs and violent crime. We are focusing on using our national security tools, this new suite of tools, which is open to us, and going after the big players overseas, whether it's in Mexico, whether it's in Columbia or

some of these other countries, something that we really haven't focused on before. You know, a lot of times we make, we would make arrests here in the U.S. and everybody would see, you know, one ton of dope, two tons of dope, two million dollars seats, and those are all really, really good things. But you know as well as I do, it's a moat who's carrying that stuff. It's not somebody that was the head of the snakes, snakes, so to speak, or somebody that was important. And so we've really shifted that tactic over to really looking at the folks overseas and

what are they doing and what can we do to not only disrupt them and even bring and also bring them back to the United States to face American justice. Nune up for 25 years in national security space. We bring terrorists back all the time. We bring spies back all the time, let them see American justice. We're doing the same thing on the criminal side now. And I really got again, credit Director Patel, where he excels the most that I've seen in my 18 months is an international cooperation. Patel has no problem picking up the phone calling his equivalent sometimes the person above his equivalent

and having a conversation and i got to tell you dan nine times out of 10 it works and and that that that country will give will give us someone in record speed that would take the system months if not years to give us that person back to face american justice chris uh i i got a run but i just wanted to say in closing uh number one i deeply appreciate you taking the the template running with it and producing even better numbers. And I think the greatest, you know, honor you can pass on to others is having someone else beat those numbers, showing that a combination of leadership and a good, effective model just works. But I'm glad you brought that up about Director Patel. And I wasn't laughing at something. I mean, drugs, it's nothing funny about it.

Whenever you're looking for cash and you hear him, because sometimes you can hear in his office, he's got like a civets going and you can hear it. It's almost always about. fentanyl and he's he's we all had our own individual you know I don't want to I'm like obsessions like mine was drones and violent crime doesn't mean you let anything obviously it's just we all have our thing cash's thing director Patel's thing is unquestionably FTOs and drugs he would be on calls all day like sometimes I'd be not gonna he's on a civitz he's on with who now UK China whatever he is obsessed with this topic So Chris is not making that up.

And I think the results speak for themselves and the seizures, the fentanyl deaths, thankfully coming down dramatically. This is real. I mean, these are real people alive right now because of the White House's leadership and the director. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

And I just kind of want to close with this because I think this is important, this is important for your viewers and really for the public to know, I have seen the most change in the Bureau that I've seen in 23 years. We have changed that aircraft. It started with Director Patel.

It started with Director Patel and with you. And we are in such a good place right now, Dan. We made 60 plus, we just went through some of them. We made 60 plus major reforms in the FBI under Director Patel's leadership. And for as long as I'm in this seat, I want your viewers to know, and I want the public to know that we are in such a good direction

when it comes to the FBI. All I really want to do from this seat is continue what you guys started, build that momentum, keep that momentum going forward and build something to last. Past me, past Director Patel, past President Trump, something that is going to last into the years, if not decades. So thanks so much, Dan, for having me. It's absolute privilege and honor to be on your show.

And just thanks for really stepping in the breach. I know I've told you this before, but it's important. I tell you this in front of your viewers. Just thank for stepping in the breach, leaving your family and leading the Bureau in 2025. and getting us pointing in the right direction. Thank you, Chris. That means a lot to me.

I really appreciate it. And from your mouth to God's ears, that we can just take this model and just stay focused on the right things and the right principles and, you know, people or policy. We need good people in there. And I appreciate you stepping in afterwards.

I know those calls I made to you, you were like, huh? What? So, yeah, but the summer heat 2.0 numbers prove it. Like, that was a really good decision. FBI Deputy Director Christopher Rea, Chris, thanks a lot for your time. We appreciate it. Absolutely, Dan.

Thank you. You got it. Folks, that was for all the media people. Again, wondering how this administration crushed violent crime. We just gave you the answer. I know you'll never write it because you want to, of course, you want to go thank prior Democrat administrations instead. Homeland Security Task Forces. UFAP warrants, state, local, tribal, territorial cooperation, violent crime.

crime task forces, promotional incentives for people who crush violent crime. Like there was a leadership component from this administration on down. I know you don't want to give President Trump any credit. However, that's kind of nonsense, man. Someone needs to write that story one of these days. It's really kind of sickening them avoiding it. Don't forget to check out Sean's show at 1 o'clock, Sean Farish, rumble.com slash Sean Haley at noon, Vince at 8 a.m.

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