The Dan Bongino Show - It Could All Go Down Today | Episode 84

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

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Good morning and welcome to Vince. Man, we've got a lot to talk about, don't we? We have a lot to talk about. Coming up on the program, we'll get into the latest with what is going on at the FBI, the United States Department of Justice, the president weighing in on all of this, and our thoughts here on the great Dan Bongino.

We'll dive into all the details there. Also, what's going on at the Secret Service? It's the one year, just after the one year anniversary of that horrific assassination attempt on the President of the United States, Susan Crabtree stops by, she's the best in the business. We've got a lot of new breaking details on that story and so much more, lock in, we have a big show ahead.

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and MLS number 1-82334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Well, here we are. It's Monday and you're wondering the same thing everybody else is wondering, what the heck is going on at the Federal Bureau of Investigation Right now in this all emanates out of what we saw last week this this battle that I want to remind people that Dan Bongino did not make public that cash Patel did not make public that Pam Bondi did not make public I see these claims going around that there's a fight

between them. Why did they make it public? They didn't. Whatever was going on behind the scenes was leaked and made public, but not by those people, certainly not by Dan Bongino. So what we're dealing with now is going through the weekend, we saw that it was it was appeared reportedly likely that Dan was going to make a decision about whether or not he was going to stay or leave the FBI contingent on the reporting said whether Pam Bondi stayed in the job that the two of them have reportedly been butting heads about how to get information out to the public and how quickly. And I will tell you right up front that I don't know Pam Bondi, but I knew no Dan Boncino. And boy, am I glad that he's the deputy director of the FBI.

Do I think that this is a sincere man, a sincere human being who has a sincere love of country? For sure. Tell you what, guys, remember back a couple months ago, there was that interview that Dan did where he sat down on the Fox News channel and he talked about how it has been personally trying for him to be in this job that there were expenses that came for him that are personal level, forget the financial side of things. I'm just talking about the personal level, the distance from his family to have to be inside of the most depressing building in all of Washington, DC,

the J. Edgar Hoover building, and constantly be trudging away, trying to root out the criminality that's going on in the country. That's the mission of the FBI, and to root out the corruption inside of the agency that he joined with the express purpose of fixing it. When he said all of that on Fox, I don't know what morons thought of the agency that he joined with the express purpose of fixing it.

When he said all of that on Fox, I don't know what morons thought that that was him bitching, but I am here to tell you, I saw that clip and not for a moment that I think he was bitching or whining or moaning about doing the job. I instantly recognized what that was. That was a guy who left a life where he did this, where he spoke to this audience, where he was able to be with his wife and his family on his own terms.

He was doing great. He left all of that behind to become the deputy director of the FBI. When he says on national television that there are costs that come with that, it's not to bitch, to moan, or to complain. It's to convey the seriousness with which he takes the job. No person takes that job in his situation unless they actually love their country. It's as simple as that. So Dan has been there since, well, we started this program on March 17th. We started this program on March 17th. It was St. Patrick's Day. He starts at the FBI the same day.

And so since then, he's been plugging away and sharing every little thing that he could possibly share with the public from his vantage point. And that brings us to the saga of the last week. Now, just over a week ago, somebody at the United States Department of Justice made the idiotic decision to put out a one and a half page memo declaring that the Epstein saga is done and over with, that there's no further questions to be answered for the public,

that there will be no more prosecutions, that the case is open and shut, that he killed himself, yada, yada, yada. And the memo was designed to suppress any more concern about the issue. Move on. Nothing to see here. Well, of course, you and I both know that that was horseship, that that kind of conclusion to the Epstein saga was going to be very dissatisfactory to anybody who was even aware of the name Jeffrey Epstein. And it's been five seconds even thinking about it. So whatever the goal of that was, the exact opposite occurred. The exact opposite occurred. And so last week, the drama that ensued from all of that began to spill out in public. Clearly, Dan was furious about how that went down. You could tell. You could tell. But I think all of that reporting

conveyed really clearly that Dan was not pleased at all. Cash was apparently. You could tell. But I think all of that reporting conveyed really clearly that Dan was not pleased at all. Cash was apparently not pleased at all. Cash Patel. And Pam Bondi, well, talk about somebody creating a mess here. Pam Bondi is the reason so much of this became an unmitigated public relations disaster. Pam Bondi is the one who routinely went on national television, claiming that she had a ton of Epstein stuff and it was all going to come out. Let me just go over some of the game tape with you here. Here's cut to here's Pam Bondi talking on January 3rd of 2024. Now just over a year ago on Hannity saying these documents have

to come out. They should have been out a long time ago. Take a look. First of all, it should have come out a long time ago. Professor Dershowitz wanted it out. And by the way, he is one of the best attorneys in this country. I know him. I know his wife. That's a great family and they've been dragged through hell on this. I want to know why A.G. Garland and the Justice Department are so quiet on this tonight. You know, they're out there labeling parents domestic terrorists, yet they're saying nothing about this. And these documents were so slow to come out. Human trafficking is a multi-billion dollar business in this country, and Jeffrey Epstein is dead, and Gerlaine Maxwell is in prison for 20 years where she belongs.

Okay, so there's a woman saying that these documents should have come out a long time ago. Now she's in a position to do something about it. She was attacking Merrick Garland for failing the public and now she's the Attorney General of the United States. This is as plain and simple as it possibly gets. Here we go again. The Attorney General of the United States saying earlier this year that the Epstein client list. Now she's saying just generally Epstein documents, were on her desk for review.

Cut three, take a look. DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients? Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I've been reviewing it. I've been reviewing Trump. I'm reviewing that. I've been reviewing it. I've been reviewing it. I'm reviewing it.

We're going to release it. That's been the directive by President Trump. President Trump ordered this, she carefully explained. And then weeks later, she told Jesse Waters, oh yeah, lots of information is coming out. Take a look here, cut four. I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're gonna see some Epstein information being released by my office.

What kind? Are we gonna see who was on the flights? Are we gonna see any evidence from what he recorded because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices? What you're gonna see hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information, but it's pretty sick what that man did. A lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information. It's pretty sick what that man did, she said. That was February 26th of this year. That was just one month after the inauguration.

And what have we got? Nothing, nothing. The limited things that have been released were just rehashes of old news. And so who set your expectations here? Well, it was the attorney general of the United States who set your expectations. So that brings us to this weekend.

Going into the weekend, the president, the President of the United States was not happy with how all of this has been going down. In fact, he posted to Truth Social the following. Let me share with you this. He said, what is going on with my boys and in some cases, gals? They're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, he said. He was doing a fantastic job. Who's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening. We have a perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying

to hurt it. All over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. The president says for years, it's Epstein over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell and more. They created the Epstein files

just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me. And now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands. Let me emphasize some details here from the president's true social post. Clearly, he is annoyed that this story continues to live

and is serving as a distraction from the rest of his agenda. He's said that in so many ways, especially over the course of the last week. He alleges in this that the Epstein files were quote, written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration. I will say he's the president,

so he'll have more access to information than I do on this subject. But that said, if Obama and his world were involved in authoring the quote Epstein files, you know what they would have put in their fake Epstein files. They would have alleged that Trump was guilty of something horrific.

And then they would have leaked that invented hoax. So, okay, the president, I think what he's trying to do here is mostly make this thing toxic. Just say, hey, look, Obama authored it. So whatever you want, that's an Obama document. Got it? That's what he's alleging here.

But again, if that was the case, Obama would have tried to implicate Trump. And then they would have leaked it to try and hurt him because that's exactly what they did with the Russia collusion garbage. I've got more coming up on that. And on Dan Bongino, we've got a lot to discuss. He goes on to say they created the Epstein files. They created them. Why didn't the radical left lunatics release them? If there was anything in there that could have hurt the MAGA movement,

why didn't they use it? That's because there wasn't anything in there to hurt the MAGA movement. That's it. He's asking that rhetorically. They haven't even given up on John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King Jr. Well, yeah, not surprised. Those files were supposed to be out years ago and it's been slow. It's been a hard effort. So the president here says he's concerned, you know,

basically he thinks that the transparency push is serving as a big distraction from the rest of his agenda. And he also says that he wants the FBI very focused on the corruption of the left, as do why. Here's what he says. He says, Cash Patel and the FBI must be focused on investigating voter fraud, political corruption, Act Blue, the rigged and stolen election of 2020, and arresting thugs and criminals. Instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old radical left inspired documents on Jeffrey Epstein, let Pam Bondi do her job. She's great, the president says.

She's great. And she's looking in to all of that. Now, there's a name that goes unmentioned in this truth social post. Those of you playing along at home are going to notice this instantly. The name that goes unmentioned in this truth social post. Those of you playing along at home are going to notice this instantly. The name that goes unmentioned is Dan Bongino. That's the deputy director of the FBI. Now, this post was made Saturday evening at five, just just after five o'clock Eastern time by the president of the United States to truth social.

So as of Saturday, like you, probably, I was watching this and going, well, that's not great. That's not great. If you want Dan Bongino to stay in a position where he can make positive change for the country, it does look like maybe things are coming to an end. As the president signals his support for the attorney general, Pam Bondi,

and also says that he's happy to have Cash Patel working in the job. But unlike a week ago when the president issued his strong support for both Cash and Dan, Dan's name goes on mentioned, at least in that post. And let me just give you a quick aside here before I get to what the president has further said about Dan Bongino, because we have an update on this story

and it's a good one, a positive one. I wanna emphasize something else. For those of you who are wondering about my thoughts on all of this as it relates to doing this program, I have to tell you, regardless of the outcome of any of this, whatever Dan ends up doing with his life, I'm going to be fully supportive of it. The guy's a great American. He's been very good to me. He's been a very, very decent human being to me. And I've learned a lot about him, a lot about him and getting to know him.

And I'm impressed by his integrity. And I'm very grateful on behalf of the rest of the country that he's in such a great position right now as the deputy director of the FBI. There's very few people that I would trust to take on that role. And luckily I have the benefit of knowing him and I do trust him in that role.

I'm glad he's there. That said, whatever he decides to do, he's got to do the right thing for himself, for his family and for his country. Whatever he decides to do. And I like, I'm rooting him on at the FBI because I think he's good at that job. If he were to leave the FBI and then come back to podcasting, come back to this time slot on this rumble channel and do this show because it is his show.

It is the audience that he built. I am rooting that on. There isn't a moment where I'm going to sit back and go, oh no, I hope that doesn't happen. No, I hope it does. He's a great American and he deserves every ounce of success that he's established for himself. Obviously true. And candidly, were he to come back to podcasting, if he were to leave the FBI and come back to a world where he's in media, I think it's going to be great anyway. I'd like to be a part of it,

whatever that is. And so I am looking at all of this with a tremendous sense of optimism about the future, because I do have trust in Dan. And whatever decision he makes, he's gonna make with an eye towards, where am I best used? Where is God going to best use me right now? So as of this morning, as you and I are talking, we don't have any big grand updates on a huge resignation from Dan Bongino

or anything like that. No, we don't. What we have is a very basic understanding of a guy who loves his country and has surely to make a bunch of very difficult decisions about the best way to serve his country on a routine basis. And so not only am I rooting for him, I'm praying for him. And so for those of you like me who thinks that he is in a great position at the FBI, you will get some encouragement from the news we got from the president last night. Last night, the president of the United States said the following on a tarmac. He said he spoke

to Dan yesterday. That would be Sunday. Here it is, cut one, the President of the United States. I spoke to him today. Dan Bongino, very good guy. I've known him a long time. I've done his show many, many times. And he sounded terrific, actually. No, I think he's in good shape. He sounded terrific, actually.

No, I think he's in good shape, he said. Now, at the risk of overreading the president of the United States, but as a student of every word he's uttered through the years, I have to tell you what that sounds like to me. That sounds like these men settled up. That whatever problems might exist, that the president of the United States and Dan Bongino had a great conversation by the president's own account yesterday. And that resulted in presumably a decision for Dan to stick around and continue to do the work. Now, again, let's go through the thought

process. What do we think about all of this? Well, let's just pause it for a moment that Dan really was taking a position of it's me or Pam Bondi, one of us is going to have to go if it may be if that's all true, if that's the case. Then the only way a guy like Dan Bongino, again, a man of integrity, a great patriot sticks around in that environment is one, if it's simply that the president just straight up impressed upon him, I desperately need you in this job. I really need you to stick around. It's really important for the country and you're the right guy for it. And Dan says, okay, if you say so, I'll stick around. I'll do it. The other thing to consider is what if there

were concessions that were able to be drawn from this? What if they're able to fix the system that has led to whatever frustrations exist within it? What if, what if the president made commitments to help do that? There's all sorts of, obviously, obviously there's all sorts of things we don't know about the circumstances here, but as we contemplate what is going on, it's worth considering the integrity of the players that we do know and the mission that they have in front of them, because this is not an FBI that's been asleep at the switch. How many New York Times pieces have we talked about? Hundreds of FBI officials keep getting fired from that agency.

They're furious over it. There is clearly an accountability culture going on, led by cash and led by Dan. They're prosecuting hundreds and hundreds of pedophiles as we speak. They've saved hundreds of children from lives of hell. No, they're definitely doing the work. And now we have an updated story that might be one of the biggest reasons of all

that the president impressed upon Dan Bongino. I need you to stay. I'll share the details of this breaking news story this morning. Again, we have a lot to get to. Susan Crabtree is just minutes away as well. We'll talk about the Secret Service. But first, I gotta ask you

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you, Vince, but let's be honest, you're not Dan. Well, no shit. Of course I'm not. Dan's at the FBI. Vince is sitting right here. No kidding. I'm not Dan Bungee. And I'm not gonna pretend to be.

And I shouldn't pretend to be. How phony would that be? I'm just here to tell you like it is. And Dan and I have a great relationship. We've been friends for some time now, born out of being in conservative media and radio and being on the internet. And I'm really grateful that Dan put me in this opportunity

to speak with you. But no, never for a moment have I tried to be Dan Bongino. Boy, who could? Who could? I'm glad to be here. Hey, so let's get into the breaking news this morning that I think is probably on the president's mind as he talks to Dan yesterday.

And this one comes to us from John Solomon. I want you to look here at this Just the News article, again, just out overnight with updates already made this morning to it. And Just the News has a piece that says the FBI has opened a grand conspiracy probe on weaponization that would be of the agency of the federal government opening a door to a special prosecutor. The FBI has quietly launched an investigation into a decade of Democrat Party and deep state antics from Russia collusion

to Jack Smith opening the door for the appointment of a special prosecutor to examine the well-documented episodes amount to a criminal conspiracy to meddle in three, count them, one, two, three U.S. elections to the benefit of Democrats and the detriment of President Donald Trump. Just the news has learned. The grand conspiracy case was opened several weeks ago after new FBI Director Cash Patel took over, and it could get a significant boost if Trump were to declassify two secret tranches of evidence that identify a potential ignition point to the alleged conspiracy in the summer of 2016, according to several people directly familiar with the inquiry who spoke to Just the News on the condition of anonymity.

I'll just summarize what's left of this article for you to give you a good understanding of what's happening here. Remember the sequence of events. Hillary Clinton's classified email scandal was blowing up into full view by July of 2016. It was then that Hillary Clinton's campaign cooked up a plan to advance a hoax that President Trump was in any way colluding with the Russian

government. This is when she goes to her law firm, Perkins-Cooey and Mark Elias. They in turn go to Fusion GPS. They in turn go to Christopher Steele and he generates a document that is packed with lies about the president of the United States, the now president of the United States. Hillary Clinton did that. The FBI knew because she was trying to distract from her own theft of classified information

kept on a homebrew server in her house in Chappaqua, New York. It is as simple as that. But what's not simple is the complex conspiracy that ensued. Hillary Clinton, her campaign, her campaign lawyer, Christopher Steele, all of the people within the FBI, the NISD's Department of Justice, CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director the years, and you've seen the outer edges, at least the publicly known components of the conspiracy. Now the FBI is digging into it internally.

And here's why that matters so much. A lot of the time we've run into statute of limitations issues, statute of limitations issues. In other words, these crimes happened so long ago, 2016, they're outside of the statute of limitations. Here's what's different though, when it comes to a criminal conspiracy.

The five year, this is what John Solomon writes this morning. The five year statute of limitations on one of the inquiries is only weeks away from expiring. That's the fake mail in ballot scheme with China. The FBI knew about it, failed to investigate it. That statute is just five weeks away from expiring since the evidence arrived in August of 2020, leaving the potential for criminal charges or other accountability on an almost impossibly tight time table.

But the overarching conspiracy case opened by Patel's FBI offers a more expansive approach that will allow a special prosecutor time to tie alleged criminal events currently covered by statutes of limitation to older events by treating them as a part of an ongoing conspiracy or even a racketeering operation. The grand conspiracy probe also would open the door to impanel a grand jury outside of Washington DC. You got that? Let me reiterate that point. Outside of Washington DC.

Washington DC is rigged political theater for the left. They need to impanel this grand jury outside of Washington DC. Remember when Jack Smith was going after President Trump accusing him of mishandling classified documents Where did he start the grand jury before he transferred it to Florida? Washington DC That's what Jack Smith did they rigged it in order to achieve the political hit job. They were pursuing this to achieve the political hit job they were pursuing. This, John Solomon's not reporting this because he made it up.

John Solomon's reporting this because this confirms all of the news we've been seeing break over the last week and a half, which is that James Comey and John Brennan are being investigated right now by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for being engaged in a conspiracy. And because parts of this, including the Jack Smith raid on Mar-a-Lago and Melania Trump's underwear drawer happened in Florida, that means that we can take this to Florida, giving this a real chance with a real grand jury

to really go forward. So again, I ask you, who would you want to lead the FBI under these circumstances? Who do you want at the top of that agency in the midst of one of the most important, sensitive, and obviously necessary investigations in the history of our country? You want cash and you want Dan.

So if the president successfully impressed upon Dan Bongino Sunday, that he needs him in that seat, especially for something like this, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised the president asked for that. And I'm not surprised, again, if it all comes true, that Dan would say yes. More in a moment, Susan Crabtree is gonna join us. We're gonna talk about the United States Secret Service and what is happening there and whether or not there has been any meaningful accountability

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Secret Service shall we? You know you've been following what's going on at that agency really aggressively and we just had the the one year anniversary of Butler. What are you learning even at this late date? Well, there was two huge Senate reports that came out of the weekend. So I basically had just spent my entire weekend pouring through those. And I'll tell you what the news is out of those.

First of all, I broke some news last week about the suspensions, these six slap on the wrist suspensions of people that were involved, Secret Service agents and a uniform division, the counter snipers involved in Butler, you know, the poor, the failures responsible for the failures. And what we had yesterday as a gold mine, that Senator Rand Paul report is an absolute gold mine. I thought there was no accountability all year. I thought that the Congress was shirking their oversight duties. I still am upset that they didn't hold any hearings with Sean Curran, zero so far. But this report,

there's some explosive things in this report. First of all, my reporting from last week, the supervisors are not getting, that we're covering for basically providing the oversight, did not get suspended. The lower junior officers are taking the fall for the most part. There were two key supervisors, Nick Menster and Nick Olashensky. They not only got, they not only were not suspended, they got big, huge promotions. One, Nick Menster is the number two on the Laura and Eric Trump detail. Nick Olashensky is ironically

the head of the inspections division, which is in charge of providing accountability and integrity for all secret service operations. He was the inspector going through all the final walkthroughs on the ground that day with a junior agent, Mio Perez, who was in charge of security, but he was the supervisor and so was Nick Munster. And they both got to skate

and got big promotions out of it. Meanwhile these junior there is so much farcical things coming out of the service right now. I can't even believe it. Rand Paul you see that he had to wait. He subpoenaed on July 1st. They weren't cooperating with him for a lot of this material, including the suspension letters that they delivered. So the details of why these people were being suspended. He had to, Ron Rand Paul's office had to subpoena on July 1st. They didn't get back to him till July 3rd. That's why this report was taking so long because there was stonewalling going on at

the Sabre Service. But what I want to emphasize, the big explosive things. Last week I reported, well, Saturday I reported that Donald Trump at a Christmas party with Secret Service agents last year said, I don't want, you can recognize he was gathering with his detail after obviously turbulent period. And he said, hey, you recognize that one person's not with us. That person, he wouldn't say her by name, is Mio Perez, who's in charge of the site security,

the junior agent known for partying, was in charge of the site. He said, she noticed she's not here. And then he said to others, he's like, there's a reason for that, said to others, I don't want her anywhere near me. Well, guess what? She got off with not being fired, but just a 42 day suspension. Then we see that the Secret Service counter sniper, who was the big hero from J 13. He actually, according to

the Rand Paul report, was also one of the big failures of the day. Sadly enough, he can be both. It's a complicated world. And he actually did not do that. That counter sniper plan was a complete wreck. There was trees obscuring. There was nobody on the AGR building where Thomas Frick's fired off the shots. There is so much news that was pouring out this week. So in other words, that sniper was in a position of leadership is what you're telling me that he should have been making tactical decisions ahead of being ahead of the whole rally that would have prevented any of this from happening in the first place. Yes, absolutely.

And in fact, he did not tell, there's interviews, testimony from him with Congress. He did not tell Sean Kern, the shift agent, that was in charge of the inner ring of security around Donald Trump on the stage. When he saw, he got a report that they were looking for Thomas Crooks and they had a range fire. He didn't bother to call the shift and say,

hey, I'm looking for this guy. Be aware. Don't bring Donald Trump out onto that stage. So yes, he's both the hero and part of the problem of the Secret Service. And he was a supervisor. He had 10 years more experience than the guy that took the fall, that got the suspension,

who has not been back to work, by the way. Yes. The lower junior, more junior junior counter sniper who was his counterpart Hercules II. He was Hercules I. So he had to turn his body all around because Hercules I was supposed to see Thomas Crooks but there was trees obscuring the AGR building. That was a huge flaw in this plan. Now they only had two days to come up with their secret, their plan, because they do a separate plan. They have to do the counter snipers do their own plan. So we know now that that is ridiculous because the secret service top brass knew

about the Iranian threat. This is according to the grassley report that came out this week, 10 days before the Butler rally. So why did they only decide to give counter snipers get the counter snipers there two days they usually have five to six days to do their plan two days. So it was a total wreck their plan too but they should have. But if you would honestly I hate to say this but it does feel like if you had given a group of Boy Scouts basic intelligence about how this was all set up, they would have thought, oh, well, we should make sure to secure that line of sight from a rooftop to the president

and not put snipers somewhere where their view is obscured from that rooftop. It's so common sense. And yet the United States Secret Service failed in this way. And so to this day, other than the Secret Service Director herself, who was shamed into resignation, is basically no leaders have been held accountable? It's been all Indians, no chiefs? Is that right?

That's absolutely correct. And Ron Rowe, I just reported over the weekend exclusively, got a job at the Chertoff Group. As you know, Michael Chertoff was the first Homeland Security, second, sorry, Homeland Security Secretary we had under George Bush, and then he served under Barack Obama as well. So it's very swampy. So he's getting off like these Secret Service agents who care about their agency are incensed. There is a new petition circulating or revised petition

saying, you know, what is this? Cheadle is worth 10 million supposedly. She's sitting pretty, she's, what is this? Cheadle is worth 10 million, supposedly. She's sitting pretty. She's denying what Grassley put in his report, and Rand Paul put in his report, that she denied repeatedly assets to Donald Trump's campaign because he was a former president. She's denying that.

How can she? That is just absurd to me. There's no way. It's all in the reports. She denied drone technology to numerous rallies. We know that's a serious problem because there's a video from the Iranians that they simulate a drone attack on Donald Trump at a golf course that was out in 2022. So there's no way she can claim that she did not. That's one thing that Sean Curran did really right.

He did it. He pushed back on those. He kept pushing back and pushing back and keeping the receipts on all these denials of security at Donald Trump over the course of a year. Susan, one thing that continues to stand out to me, you and I have talked about this before. I believe that Jill Biden is the reason President Trump's life was in peril in Butler a year ago, because she was holding an event concurrently, an indoor event, far easier to secure. And the Secret Service, correct me if

I'm wrong, was expending lots of resources for her and fewer resources for President Trump, who was in a much more vulnerable position. Yes, I was the first to report that on J-14. So yes, absolutely. And I was told by the Secret Service, you are really wrong. And right onto my ex.com account, so Fox and everybody else picked that up. And I had this cloud going into the RNC convention

that I was really wrong. Well, guess what? By the end of that week, Senator Grassley came out and verified everything I had reported and more and saying that they had Jill Biden's of small indoor event, it's an Italian American dinner that would not require much security. They had four, three to four times

to put many post standards. That's had three to four times the post standards. That's like the elementary job at the Secret Service. You just stand there and you look around. They still won't provide the Secret Service Tuesdays, still won't provide a complete breakdown of the assets that Joe Biden had compared to the assets that Trump had at that rally. But we know they was facing an Iranian threat.

Well, we've known that forever, but he was facing an acute Iranian threat and they knew that 10 days before the rally, that's another big element, the news that came out this weekend in the Grassley report. And 10 days beforehand, even though they had that 10 days beforehand, the next day at the Doral Florida report, uh, rally Trump rally, they

didn't have any counter snipers, but suddenly they found counter snipers for the Butler rally. So they were denying him all along. And this is a, this is a serious problem. And the fact that she is lying according to these senators Senate reports, she should be held in contempt of Congress for lying to Congress. Well, the and the Jill Biden story is thicker than merely that her rally was better protected her indoor event was better protected. Kim Cheadle was hand selected by Jill Biden to be the Secret Service Director, correct? Some of her wealth is she owes to Joe Biden, Jill Biden. And because, yes, she was given that role,

Jill Biden helped her get a role. She was very close to her when she was on the vice presidential detail. Cheetah was on the vice presidential detail when Joe Biden was president. So Jill Biden got closer. And then she got her a job as instrumental at PepsiCo afterwards, providing security, running security for them. This is what these Secret Service agents do after they retire.

They go to lucrative jobs if they're good and they have had a long career. Well, Cheadle did that. She made a ton of money from what I understand. And now she's now she's trying to say that she has no culpability. Yes, she was extremely close to Joe Biden. And if politics played a role in this, I don't believe that it could not. Treating Donald Trump as a former president and denying him security assets because of that is a joke. And any logical person, like you said, a Boy Scout would say that's a joke. He broke the mold.

He's holding the biggest rallies we've, he broke the mold, he's holding the biggest rallies we've seen, outdoor rallies, and he's facing an Iranian threat. What the heck are you thinking using that outmoded? But guess what? They didn't stop using that outmoded belief system protocol. They have it in their suspension records of these Pittsburgh field office. They still use, oh, well, as a former president, the Pittsburgh field office, the field offices is held mostly responsible. The Pittsburgh field office has taken a fall for this.

Their supervisors got suspended, but the Donald Trump supervisors didn't get suspended. The campaign supervisor, the inspector, he got a promotion. This is, I mean, there's so many outrageous things that I found in these reports and then I've been reporting on long. It was like, I hate to say it was a solemn day yesterday and I recognize that, but it was like Christmas in July because for me, because I was going through all of

these things that I had been reporting on and I got verification finally on all my reports that many of which the Secret Service was flat out I'll say prevaricating to be nice. Yes okay so since then it's been a struggle to get answers not just for you and for the public but also for the President of the United States earlier this year he indicated to Fox that he was not satisfied with the progress of the investigation into how that attack went down in Butler. Although, going into this weekend, he did tell his daughter-in-law, Laura Trump,

that he is now satisfied. I want people to see this clip, and then I'll get your reaction to it on the other side. Here's cut six, the President of the United States saying he is now satisfied with the answers he's getting out of his own government. Take a look. So they briefed me in numerous times, the FBI, the Secret Service, sort of everybody, DOJ, Pamela's doing a fantastic, I think she's doing a fantastic job, but they briefed me and I'm satisfied with it. I'm satisfied with it. They should have had

somebody in the building. That was a mistake. They should have had somebody in the building. That was a mistake. They should have had communications with the local police. They weren't tied in. And they should have been tied in. So there were mistakes made. And that shouldn't have happened. And that building was a prime building

in terms of what they were trying to do. So, but I was satisfied in terms of the bigger plot, the larger plot. I was satisfied and you know, I have great confidence in these people. I know the people and they're very talented, very capable. They had a bad day and I think they'll admit that. They had a rough day. It's a very dangerous job being president. Do you think the president's being too generous in this assessment or do you think they've

actually given him a clear picture now? I don't think the president could have spent the year that I've spent reporting on this in granular detail. I know that they've made improvements. I'm happy about that. We all should be, you know, commending those improvements, But we all should be looking for the holes in the situation, too. And from what I understand, there are still problems with the counter-stipers. They're not partnering with local law enforcement.

They're supposed to be partnering, pairing with them, so that there's no communication problems whatsoever. There are still major DEI problems going on at the Secret Service. There's a huge retention problem and the low morale that keeps happening. I had agents telling me that Helen Comparatory, and I posted this on my ex account, should be suing them and she has to be working with a Secret Service agent, former Secret Service agent, to troubleshoot what they tell you because it's always just

so parsed like a lawyer at the Secret Service. You have to know exactly what question to ask them because it's semantics all the time with them. Why wouldn't they give her a brief? She has been asking for it. She said she wants just a brief from the Secret Service. I would think that that would be the most elementary courtesy you could possibly give to the grieving widow of Corey Comparator. Why aren't they doing that? They are doing it now after she came out this week.

I know that last week with that. What even occurred to them to do it on their own? I mean, this is leadership skills that you need as a Secret Service head of Secret Service. I don't know. But I think I know the agents are incensed about that. And they say they owe it to her to the memory of Corey comparatory to get to the bottom of some of the same the problems still plaguing the Secret Service. Now I do give them credit. I know they have up their drone game. I know they don't have this have no longer

have this logic, this ridiculous thing that a former president doesn't get the assets. Well, that's irrelevant now. We need to focus on how we're going to save President Trump's life and keep him safe when there's an acute Iranian threat, so acute that the Iranians are bragging that they could drone him when he's sunbathing at Mar-a-Lago just recently, just last week. So this, we need to up our game. The Secret Service needs to stop worrying about

and running around trying to have witch hunts for my sources, on my sources, and spending an inordinate amount of time threatening people from talking about things, and taking legal action against them, and spending more time being transparent with both Congress and journalists. I don't care if they want to tell Congress first, that's fine with me. Whatever you want to do, but answer our questions.

There's been outstanding questions and they, you know, I had questions into them on Thursday, a whole series, and they did not provide, Wednesday, sorry, and they did not provide the answers. And they just put out a big press release, not answering my questions about retention problems, DEI policies, a whole host of issues. You know, there's been several DEI incidents that I've been reporting on a cat fight outside of the secrets of the President Obama's residence just a month ago, where these two agents were getting into it. They sent LGBTQ plus agents to a summit, Pride Summit at Disneyland in

the middle of their crying foul over. They don't have enough people. Last October they were going to send agents but from what I understand or more people but I because I reported on that they didn't do it. There was a breastfeeding incident. We're on a security site that Donald Trump was flying into five minutes before female agent was breastfeeding. I mean, it goes on and on. I haven't reported some of the details because they're so solid. It's it's sickening. Some of the details are tawdry, okay? That I reported on.

And I've told them this, I'm not reporting on, I'm trying to work with you. I know every big organization has bad apples, okay? But you've gotta work with the journalists, you've gotta work with Congress. Why did it take them July 1st, July for some of these suspension records? You look at the bottom and they weren't signed till July 3rd. The subpoena from Rand Paul came July 1st. So there's this year. Yes. Yes. Okay. There's like days ago. Yeah, they were just,

they were still negotiating some of these suspensions and probably with the lawyers trying to get them down. And, you know, they know, they only out unpaid leave 10 to 42 days. That's a slap on the wrist. Big time. Big time. Well, look, if you're the Secret Service and you are actually making positive changes that are gonna improve the quality of the security

of the President of the United States and all your protectees, that's a story you're gonna wanna tell. And I highly recommend it. You tell it with someone who has a lot of credibility, Susan Crabtree. So please reach out to her and tell us about all your great progress. Susan Crabtree, thank you as always for digging in and for staying tenacious.

Love having you on. Thanks for your interest. And you too, Vince. You've always been dogged. Thank you very much, Susan. There she is, the great Susan Crabtree, Rookler Politics. She has been digging in here to get to the bottom of this. Bilk1 says, Dan Bongino should move to secret service director.

I think he has enough hats right now, but I don't know. Marco Rubio has like 10 different jobs. Can you be both deputy director of the FBI and secret service director? Maybe, maybe. We'll see. Speaking of agents at Disneyland, did you guys see, did you see JD Vance went to Disneyland with the family this weekend? And they had Secret Service agents with him. Take a look here, Cut 12, JD Vance visiting Disneyland, and he was on the flume ride.

Is that what we see here? Oh no, he's just being heckled, heckled rather. People screaming at him, but there he is. He's walking around Disneyland. He's got Secret Service agents screaming at him. But there he is, he's walking around Disneyland. He's got secret service agents all around him. I was cracking up this weekend because I saw a picture of, I saw a video of him riding the flume ride at Disneyland.

Here, let me see if I can pull this up for you. Take a look at this. Here's JD Vance on Tiana's bayou at Disneyland. There he is. And in the flume with him and his child are Secret Service agents. You can tell by their earpieces as they have to get out of the flume. Can you imagine? How funny is that? You're in the flume ride. The Secret Service agents have to ride with you. I want to see the pictures from the drop. You know, every good Flume ride has a big drop

where you go down and then all the cameras start taking pictures of you. They try and make you overpay for them as you get off the ride. I want to see the faces of the Secret Service agents as they're going down the drop. Anyway, that's JD Vance having a good time at Disneyland this weekend.

He is allowed to have a break every so often. And that was cool to see. The left was of course attacking him because nothing nice is allowed to happen to JD Vance. He's not allowed to enjoy his life or spend any of his time with his family at Disneyland. Hey, here's one other big piece and we're gonna spend more time talking about this

because it's just such a massive story. The New York Times today has an interview that they've posted with Joseph Robinette Biden, you know, President Autopen. Biden says he made the clemency decisions that were recorded with Autopen. That's what the Times transcribes today. What they're saying in this piece

is that Biden got on the phone with a couple of New York Times reporters for 10 minutes. 10 minutes. That's it. Quick conversation, barely any time to ask any questions, and then he was off the phone. So Biden world put him on the phone for a second. And when he was on the phone, he claimed, quote, I made every decision. I made every decision. And he asserted that he had his staff use the auto pen, replicating his signature on clemency warrants, because, quote, we're talking about a whole lot of people. In this piece, they say that there's a fellow called Jeff Zients,

who was Biden's chief of staff, who handled a lot of these things. The Autopen was managed by Mr. Biden's White House staff secretary, a woman called Ms. Feldman. Ms. Feldman was managing the Autopen. She wanted to receive written accounts confirming that Biden had given oral instructions in meetings before they used it to produce the warrants recording the clemency actions, the emails show. Okay?

So as I explained this, listen to the number of people who were involved in the chain of custody here. The number of people who are insisting, it's a big trust me bro chain. Oh yeah, no, no, Biden wants you to sign this. Biden said so. The aides refer to those written accounts of meetings at which Mr. Biden delivered oral decisions as blurbs. Blurbs.

The accounts were drafted by aides to the senior advisors who are participated in the key meetings. That would be like Mr. Biden's chief of staff, Jeff Zients and Mr. Siskel. So these top officials, this is what they're telling you. The top officials, guys like Jeff Zients, would be in a meeting with Joe and then they would leave the meeting.

They would tell an aide, an assistant, hey, Joe definitely said, use the auto pen to pardon his entire family, to pardon Anthony Fauci. He definitely said that. So the assistants who then drafted the blurbs were not even in the room with Mr. Biden, according to the lists of meeting participants. The emails the New York Times has seen imply that Mr. Siskel and Mr. Zients relayed what Mr. Biden had said to the assistants who then documented it. The assistants circulated the drafts back to Mr. Siskill

and Mr. Zients and other meeting participants before they sent them off to Ms. Feldman, again, copying the meeting participants. And then they just said, okay, go ahead, use the auto pen, use it. All right, so Biden was barely involved in in any of this and then that brings us to January 19th in this article January 19th January 19th is the night before the inauguration of President Trump

Mr. Biden completed a list of high-profile clemency decisions over two meetings the emails show One on January 18th included mr. Zients, Mr. Siskel, and another aide, Bruce Reed. Another on the evening of January 19th, his final night as president was with Mr. Siskel, Mr. Reed and three other top aides, Anthony Bernal, Steve Reschetti, and Anthony Tomasini. The emails show that Mr. Biden added preemptive pardons

for his family at the January 19th meeting. They also suggest that he changed some of his thinking. Among the people that were pardoned as a result of this was Anthony Fauci. Anthony Fauci, they pardoned Mark Milley, they pardoned Fauci. They pardoned the January 6th committee people, all receiving pardons.

And so what you have here is a scam. They put Joe Biden on the phone and say, Biden, tell them that you knew everything. Oh, I knew everything. And then they see these emails and it shows that they were laundering these auto pen sign-offs. That there were a bunch of different people involved. They're just claiming, well, Joe definitely was in on this, yet the meetings are taking

place at 1030 at night. On January 19th, the New York Times reports that they were having meetings at 1030 at night. Do you believe for a second that Joe Biden was awake at 10 30 p.m. on January 19th of 2025? Come on. The guy could barely do the job from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. each day. It wasn't up at 10 30 at night.

These guys were freelancing. They were wielding the power of the presidency in their own way. And so we get that update today, a 10 minute interview with Joe Biden. Oh, go ahead. Tell them, Joe. Tell them it was you the whole time. I'm just here to remind you, don't believe this crap for a moment. Don't believe it for a moment. We'll keep following it as it develops. Whatever comes out today, including at the Federal Bureau of Investigation,

we'll continue to track all the details. There is a lot going on right now. There's a lot going on, which means you and I are gonna have another big conversation tomorrow on Vince. Good to have you with me today. I've got the big national radio show coming up from 12 to three Eastern today. Find your local listings at thevinchshow.com

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