The Dan Bongino Show - It's Time To Clean House in the GOP # 983 (Ep 983)
Episode Date: May 20, 2019In this episode I address the outrageous comments by a Republican congressman about Trump and impeachment. I also address astonishing connections between Hillary Clinton and a Russian spy. Finally, I ...debunk absurd liberal lies about the Alabama abortion law. News Picks:The UK finally opens up about their role in the spying operation on the Trump team. Justin Amash should leave the Republican Party immediately after calling for the impeachment of Trump. Democrats are saying that men shouldn’t write abortion laws. But what about this glaring contradiction? AG Bill Barr speaks out about the origins of the Russia probe. Hillary has a Skolkovo problem. Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host
dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show back from the home studio in the great palm
city florida and the mighty return the mighty return of producer joe who was not off on Friday. He could hear us.
He just was not there, and it was a big miss.
Man, I'll tell you what.
Because we need Producer Joe.
People were clamoring for you, Producer Joe.
Clamoring.
Yes.
Very cool.
But, man, it was weird.
It was just weird.
Feels weird, right?
I've been able to jump in.
I know.
The road shows.
We have so much technology on the road, and it's just really tough to get everything in.
By the way, on the roadshow, just a quick story for you.
I want to sincerely thank, from the bottom of my heart,
I mean this, and I hope it comes across in my words.
I was out in California for a trip I had already committed to,
a speech, and I brought my wife.
That's why the roadshow on Friday.
And I gave a speech in front of a
group. And one of my doctors, I told you that does my stem cells for my arthritis is in Beverly Hills.
So my wife and I went out to eat Beverly Hills over there, which is nice and beautiful area.
I mean, you know, again, I don't have an issue personally with liberals. I have an ideological
problem with them. They just seem to hate us, but you know, we keep a kind of a low profile over
there. So we ate in this restaurant. I'm not going to say where, because again, Joe, liberals will target the place and probably
burn it to the ground if I say where, because they're crazy.
But we, and you know, nobody said anything.
I know the look.
People usually give us like the look if they recognize us.
You know, you get a look, a double take, whatever.
So nothing happened.
Nobody checked us out.
So we leave the restaurant, my wife and I, and the manager comes running down the street,
chases us down.
And he could not be more grateful to me and my wife for the work we were doing.
He listened to the show.
And you know who you are.
I'm not going to say his name.
I'm not going to say the restaurant, even close to where it was.
And it's sad that I have to say that, Joe.
But I want to thank all the conservatives in California, including this restaurant manager, who was the nicest guy.
Sent me an email afterwards.
And the server in there, you know your name, too. He emailed me later. It was a nicest guy. Sent me an email afterwards and the server in there,
you know your name too.
He emailed me later.
It was a different guy.
I'm not going to say either of your names
because liberals are tyrants
and they'll target your restaurant.
But you guys are great.
And to all the conservatives out there in California
and other liberal states,
I lived there.
I was in New York,
in liberal states that is,
and Maryland.
Joe's still in Maryland.
I just want you to know we are with you.
We are in the fight with you. You matter. You matter deeply to me. I'm sorry you live in a
state run by liberal tyrants and maniacs, but we are with you and you will always have a home here.
And I was deeply, deeply touched and honored by this man's comments. It meant the world to me.
And Paula, you too, because Paula and I walked away and we were like, we took a walk around
Beverly Hills back to the hotel and we were really astonished.
Thank you so much.
You meant the world to us.
All right.
I've got a stacked show for you today.
I've got another tactical nuke to drop on you about why Hillary Clinton and their Russian
source I discovered on Friday is going to be so controversial.
And it goes back to a show we did a very long time ago where we said remember the skulk of all project that i got something on this new abortion law too
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So first off, I want to address the comments of alleged Republican Congressman Justin Amash from Michigan.
He is now, he put up this tweet this weekend.
Again, he's alleged to be a Republican and Libertarian.
I could not be more disappointed. He is now the first Republican to come out outrageously, ridiculously, and
embarrassingly for the impeachment of Donald Trump on fictitious fake obstruction charges.
Listen, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this because you've heard about it all weekend.
You're going to hear about it today. I want to say, number one, that this is personally painful
to me, and I mean it because I had a lot of respect for Justin Amash.
I've been at events with him.
I've communicated with him.
I know Justin Amash, and I found him on a lot of liberty issues.
He claims to be a libertarian.
He does the right thing and votes on a lot of good libertarian issues, which matter to me.
I am a libertarian conservative and always have been.
I don't like labels, but if I had to align with one portion of the party, I believe the libertarians are right on a lot of issues. How Justin Amash,
who claims to be a libertarian, also simultaneously claims to support liberty by, let me get this
straight, supporting the impeachment of an innocent man targeted by a weaponized police state,
weaponized intelligence and law enforcement assets in complete violation of Donald Trump and his team's Fourth Amendment rights.
And now you want to impeach him for objecting to an investigation after he was targeted by the police state.
Are you kidding me?
Even Mittens Romney, Mittens from Utah.
Another Democrat pretending to be a Republican. Mittens, even Mittens Romney. Mittens from Utah. Willard! Another Democrat pretending to be a Republican.
Mittens. Even Mittens disagrees
as you can see in this legal insurrection piece
by Fuzzy Slippers.
We love Fuzzy Slippers. Justin Amash
calls for Trump impeachment. Mitt Romney
counters the case saying, we're just not
there. Now, Mittens will change his
mind in two seconds because Mittens is another
one. He's the new Jeff Flake, right Mittens?
But even Mittens disagrees with Amash.
Folks, this is an embarrassment.
Amash should leave the Republican Party immediately.
Listen, I have zero problem
with my libertarian and conservative friends
disagreeing with President Trump on issues.
Joe and I disagree with President Trump on some issues.
Yes, we do.
We don't have the same position on abortion.
We've had notable disputes on tariffs, on the death penalty.
There's nothing wrong with that.
The Republican Party are not automatons.
Joe disagrees with me on issues.
Paula disagrees with me on some issues, too.
We talk about it in our own house.
That is fine.
The Republican Party are not a bunch of robots.
out of the North House. That is fine.
The Republican Party are not a bunch of robots. However,
you cannot claim to be a Republican,
no less a libertarian,
while you support the impeachment of a president
who was spied on by
the opposition party with no probable
cause and a warrant based
on debunked information from a Russian
source.
Hard pass.
You need to leave the Republican Party.
Totally.
Play it again.
Totally erroneous.
Thank you, Vince.
Totally erroneous.
You are not a Republican anymore.
Don't claim the label.
Don't claim the brand.
Nicely walk away.
Like that Homer Simpson gif everybody uses on twitter where he retreats
back into the bushes go away now you have disappointed me and others i'm sure you don't
care fine you need to go you're not welcome in this party you there is no place in the republican
party for people who support police state tyrants it It's time to go. And believe me,
it pains me to say that. I obviously was mistaken about this guy. And when I make a mistake,
I admit it. I don't know what happened to him, but this is a joke. Justin Amash, please go align
with Bernie Sanders and the police state tyrants and the socialists and the big government power
hungry folks. If no place in the Republican Party supporting the police state tyrants and the socialists and the big government power hungry folks. If no place in the Republican Party
supporting the police state.
All right, moving on.
I said I would get to this.
So Friday's show was complicated.
And I understand.
I got a lot of emails from people.
By the way, the numbers were phenomenal.
The downloads.
I say that because I only got one piece
of negative feedback.
And I don't mind that. I answered the guy back a couple of times. But it was only one piece of negative feedback. And I don't mind that.
I answered the guy back a couple times.
But it was only one piece of negative.
I got a ton of positive feedback.
But I got some other feedback from people saying,
I got it the second time,
but I wish producer Joe would have been there
because I think, but Joe said he got it too.
But having said that, the gist of Friday's show,
I'm not going to relitigate Friday's show.
The gist of Friday's show was this'm not going to relitigate Friday's show. The gist of Friday's show is this.
We now know Christopher Steele, who provided the information the FBI used to spy on Donald Trump.
The information turned out to be false and discredited.
We call it the dossier, the Steele information, whatever you want to call it.
Because those two things may not be the same thing.
But we know now that at least steel said that that information his quote sources
were these two russians trebnikov and serkov there you go as my wife put up on the screen
then if you can see it on our youtube.com youtube.com but you can see the note trebnikov
serkov yes it sounds so dramatic russian names always sound so dramatic when you say them
sometimes you're trebnikov so we know that. What I was trying to get at on Friday,
and I probably could sum up in a sentence,
but I had to lay the story out for you,
is it's now clear that Trubnikov's connections
to American and friendly spy assets,
notably Dear Love and Halper,
who were British and United States
human intelligence assets,
that there's absolutely no way
John Brennan, head of the CIA,
didn't know what Trbnickoff was allegedly telling
or was being used as a source for for Steele.
In other words, the CIA knows this is coming from Russians.
Yeah.
Brennan and the CIA.
So in order to reconstruct the story to make it appear it came from Steele,
the FBI just laundered the information back through Steele,
and therefore you had this parallel construction scheme.
I said this on the speech I was at this weekend.
The government, the United States government, the FBI,
and people there, especially Brennan,
could not have the Americans know,
and American people knowing,
that the CIA was spying on innocent American citizens.
So they just reconstructed the story with the FBI
and made it seem like it was all coming from Steele.
It's as simple as that.
They couldn't walk into court and go,
hey, Brennan can't walk into court.
He's not a law enforcement officer.
But even if he could, he's not going to walk in there going,
hey, our U.S. intelligence asset, Halper,
and our United Kingdom friend, Richard Dearlove,
who ran their spy agency,
yeah, they've been dealing with this Russian,
Trebnikov they teach with at Cambridge. Oh, and by the way, he's also
a source for Steele. What?
They can't say that or else they're going to
know that they're dealing with Russian intel to
spy on Americans. So they go,
the FBI reconstructs the story through
Steele, all of the information's from the same
Russian, making it appear like it's legitimately
from a source. Now, that is important.
That's the simplest way I can explain it.
They constructed the same story twice.
It sprouted from the ground and the seed were Russians.
And it sprouted into multiple different paths.
Now, why is that important?
Because one of the Russian sources, Surkov, as you see in the note,
in the notes, remember,
these are Kathleen Kavalec's notes
from the State Department.
She's talking to Steele
and taking notes simultaneously.
Steele obviously tells her,
his sources, as we can see
in the handwritten notes,
were Trubnikov and Surkov.
It says, sources.
I'm not making this up.
This is her interview with Steele.
One of these sources, Surkov,
is a very suspicious cat let's
move this story along a little bit first we have this from from friday the newsweek piece covering
surkov where it this is a february piece of newsweek titled vladimir putin's advisor tells
americans russia interferes in your brains we change your conscience they're talking about
surkov read this portion of the piece,
because what I get to next is going to blow your mind
about who this guy Surkov was.
This is the source for all of these people's information,
negative information on Trump.
From the Newsweek piece,
I'm just going to read the opening sentence.
This is Surkov writing this.
Christopher Steele's source.
The illusion of choice is the most important illusion.
The main trick of Western democracy. The rejection of this illusion in steel source the illusion of choice is the most important illusion the main
trick of western democracy the rejection of this illusion in favor of the reality that everything
is predestined will allow society to reflect first on our vision of democratic development
the illusion of choice he's basically saying we russians like me surkov who was vladimir putin's
right hand guy yeah they call him the Gray Cardinal because of his ideological influence on Putin.
This guy could not have been more deeply connected to Putin,
was a source for the guy Hillary's team hired to gin up information on Trump.
Folks, this is unbelievable.
Again, I cannot understand for the life of me how the media has managed to miss this story.
Putin's right-hand guy.
Source for anti-Trump dossier.
Wow.
Did they miss the note?
Source.
That's right there.
It's right there.
It's right there.
Joe's the audience on Budsman, but you don't have to be.
Any dope can figure it out.
Christopher Steele Soares, Surkov.
Surkov, who writes in this Newsweek piece he's covered in, that it's an illusion choice in Western democracy.
In other words, we're influencing your brains, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Now, moving on.
Listen to Surkov's connections.
These are astonishing. Now, moving on. Listen to Surkov's connections.
These are astonishing.
Do you remember the Russian technology project Skolkovo?
I said this a while ago on shows.
Remember Skolkovo?
I had a good tip on this, and now it's all coming together why I got that tip.
Skolkovo was a Russian Silicon Valley type project.
It was a technology project they instituted over in Russia where the idea was to bring American technology over.
No problem with that on its face.
I'll get to this in a little while.
But what happened with Russian, with Skolkovo was it was alleged by our own intel people
that Skolkovo became not a technology project, but a project to steal our military now who was in charge of skolkovo put up this piece from slate this is
killer who was running the skolkovo project here's a piece from slate not a but this is from 2013 by
the way this is not a right-leaning outlet slate not just oil and oligarchs skolkovo is russia's
bid to jumpstart its tech industry.
Can it overcome the corruption charges and political conflicts swirling around it?
From the inside of the piece, keep in mind, who is running the Skolkovo project?
Oh, Deputy Prime Minister Vladislav Surkov.
Surkov?
You mean the same guy who was a source for Hillary's guy, Christopher Steele?
Sir cough.
Sir cough?
You mean the same guy was a source for Hillary's guy, Christopher Steele?
Oh!
Skolkovo's unofficial curator and the former gray cardinal behind the Kremlin's ideological strategy resigned abruptly after publicly criticizing the investigation into the Skolkovo
project.
He's the unofficial curator of the Skolkovo project?
So just to be clear,
I'm going to keep this simple
and I'm Budsman Joe's
on his game here.
Oh, yeah.
Vladislav Surkov
is a source
for the negative information,
the fake dossier stuff
generated by Christopher Steele
being paid by Team Hillary.
His source,
Steele's source,
is Surkov,
who is also
the unofficial curator of a Russian technology project
being used to steal sensitive military technology.
Okay, let's move this story along even more.
John Solomon, Peace on the Hill.
Who else was involved in Skolkovo and who supported Skolkovo?
John Solomon, from February of 2019.
The case for Russia collusion against the Democrats is the piece from the
inside of the John Solomon piece.
Oh,
is this going to scramble your eggs as secretary of state?
Hillary Clinton worked with Russian leaders,
including foreign minister Lavrov and then president Medvedev to create us
technology partnerships with Moscow's version of Silicon Valley,
a sprawling high tech campus known as Skolkovo.
It goes on.
Clinton's handprint was everywhere on the 2010 project.
The tip of the diplomatic spear to reboot U.S.-Russia relations after years of hostility prompted by Putin's military action
against the former Soviet Republic and now U.S. ally Georgia. Oh, this gets good. Does this ever
get sweet? A donor to the Clinton Foundation, billions of dollars, Russian oligarch Viktor
Vekselberg, who, by the way, the Clinton team denied knowing later, led the Russian side of the Skolkovo effort,
and several American donors to the Clinton Foundation
got involved in Skolkovo?
Wow.
Clinton's State Department facilitated U.S. companies
working with the Skolkovo Russia Project,
and she personally invited Medvedev to visit Silicon Valley.
What the Hades?
To visit Silicon Valley.
What?
The Hades?
So the source for Steele's dossier and Steele's information, one of the sources,
Surkov, Vladislav Surkov, is the unofficial curator, is deeply involved in the Skolkovo project.
Hillary Clinton is promoting in her own State Department.
The Skolkovo project is also being run by a donor to the Clinton Foundation, Vexelberg,
who, by the way, the Clintons deny
knowing personally later on through their
staff.
The Skolkovo project,
the State Department, while Clinton's running it, is
approving the Skolkovo project and
U.S. technology going over there.
But what was really going on with the Skolkovo project?
That the guy who's the curator for then becomes a source to give information to a guy paid by Hillary, Christopher Steele, used to spy on Donald Trump.
What was really going on with Skolkovo and Surkov's project at Skolkovo?
Let's go to this Daily Caller piece I've covered in the past, but remember Skolkovo.
Oh, episode 669.
Thank you, Paula.
Paula's texting me.
That's episode 669.
That's nearly over 300 episodes ago where we said, remember Skolkovo.
From the Daily Caller, our friend Diana West, who's great.
This is from 2017.
Hillary's hypersonic missile gap.
There are some bombshells in this piece about what Skolkovo really was.
Let's go to, well, the first snippet from Diana West's piece, which is a good one.
Talking about Vekselberg. She says, she's talking about this Russian oligarch who had lined up investors for
the project Skolkovo. His name was Victor Vekselberg of Renova, a Clinton Foundation donor,
by the way. And the project under his purview was the Skolkovo Innovation Center, which is being
built near Moscow. The following month, Bill Clinton, after the Skolkovo innovation center which is being built near moscow the following month bill
clinton after the skulkovo initiative starts received five hundred thousand dollars for a
speech in moscow from a russian bank renaissance capital with ties to the kremlin a clinton
foundation donor a skulkovo executive and which talked up uranium one these are we're talking
about renaissance capital here whose sale sale the Clinton State Department would approve and whose executives together contributed $145 million
to the Clinton Foundation.
Wow!
Same bank paying Clinton $500,000 for a speech.
They pay him right after this Skolkovo thing starts.
More from the Diana West piece about what Skolkovo really was.
Here's plain language from the U.S. Army,
their intelligence branch.
In the Diana West piece,
this is not some right-wing analysis here.
I thought that would be wrong,
but this is the U.S. Army.
Skolkovo is an ambitious enterprise
aiming to promote technology transfer generally
by inbound direct investment and occasionally through selected acquisitions.
Listen here. As such, Skolkovo is arguably an overt alternative to clandestine industrial espionage with the additional distinction that can achieve such a it can achieve such a transfer on a much larger scale and more efficiently.
Ladies and gentlemen, professional intelligence people in our military were sincerely, genuinely
worried that the hypersonic missile technology the Russians have developed, some of the technology
was stolen using Skolkovo.
The Skolkovo technology project because Russians couldn't develop it on their own.
So they say, hey, let's start a Silicon Valley here.
Oh, and let's let American companies bring their technology here, which will steal and use to develop weapons to kill Americans.
Yes.
So let's just sum up what we just talked about for the liberals who have a tough time with this kind of stuff.
You know, facts and things.
I know it's difficult for you.
A source,
according to Christopher Steele
himself, is this guy
Surkov. He's
a Russian.
He's a disinformation specialist.
Read his own words for the Russians.
He feeds you negative intel in the United States to sow discord.
Steele lapped it up.
Apparently so did the FBI, who used Steele's information despite saying he was getting some of it from Surkov.
with a technology project in Russia to steal our sensitive technology that is supported openly by Hillary and Bill Clinton,
who incentivize companies to go over and join this project,
have their technology stolen,
while those same companies are donating to the Clinton Foundation.
Hat tip to a listener, by the way.
You know who you are, who provided some of the input on this
folks this show is you check out the youtube channel if you want to see the cuts youtube.com
slash bongino but please tell me this makes sense you don't need to see the actual snippets i read
them for you but please tell me this makes sense yeah hill Hillary supports a technology project in Russia, colludes,
tells companies,
hey, go to Russia,
give them your technology.
Those same companies
are donating
to the Clinton Foundation.
The Clinton State Department
approves those companies
going over there.
And the guy
who's unofficially
running the project,
the two of them,
Vekselberg and Surkov,
are both,
one's working
with Christopher Steele
later on
to generate
negative information
on Trump.
Maybe to make sure Trump doesn't get elected.
Maybe to sow Russian disinformation in the United States.
Maybe to make sure Trump doesn't get elected so they don't look at any of this.
And the other guy running it, Vexelberg, is a donor to the Clinton Foundation, who the Clintons run from after the election.
I didn't say remember Skolkovo for nothing.
That Skolkovo project is going to come back again and again and again.
Hillary Clinton's involvement in Russians stealing our technology is one of the real
Russian collusion scandals.
And her now involvement with Surkov through steel is even more suspicious given what I
just told you.
Astonishingly stupid. with Surkoff through Steele is even more suspicious given what I just told you. Yeah, I think we're good on that one, dude.
Astonishingly stupid.
We're good.
All right, thank you.
We got it all.
There we go.
Have a producer Joe back helps.
All right, I got to move on.
I got a lot to cover.
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Okay, moving on.
I wanted to cover,
because last week was so busy on the Spygate stuff,
we missed out on some of the other news.
We had a monumental achievement
in the pro-life movement last week with Alabama
and now it looks like Missouri
and other states considering these heartbeat bills
which would restrict abortions after a certain period.
Now, the democrats have
have gone to the airwaves and their twitter accounts to ridiculously attack this abortion
bill and uh don't worry i'm gonna debunk one of their silliest talking points now here is um
uh is she a model gg hadid she's a model right paul i think um gg hadid at gg hadid she's verified
account um i've seen her i think her mom was on like the
beverly housewives of of the hills or something like that but she tweeted out this tweet you uh
it says hashtag abortion is a woman's right keep in mind not the woman in the room or in the womb
that's it's not her right um and she says repeatedly in her tweet men shouldn't be making
laws about women's body and it goes on i don't
know what would you say 30 times there it's a screenshot so so the model g g g g g g hadid i
don't even know what g g guy guy uh hadid guy guy yeah she she's easy okay thanks paula she says Gigi. Okay, thanks, Paula. She says, women shouldn't be making laws about men's bodies.
Okay.
Now, Joe, as the audience on Budsman,
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So let's just be clear what we're saying right here.
So we're liberals.
We're going to pretend to be liberals for a minute.
So Gigi put out a tweet saying,
men shouldn't make laws about women's body
um if you wouldn't mind please put up these wait wait what is that on the screen right now
joe caveman joe is back he's back because it's difficult to understand this with an iq
over 65 this is the governor of alabama signing the alabama restriction on abortion.
Joe, I know we're in this era of identity politics and everything,
but I'm reasonably confident we are looking at a woman.
Am I correct, Caveman Joe?
Thank you.
Caveman Joe is back.
Governor Kay Ivey, who signed the law, is a woman.
Men should not be making laws.
She signed the law.
Now, making this even worse.
This gets better.
Get ready.
We're not even done.
Let's put up the screen.
Here's another screenshot of Governor Kay Ivey on the left of our screen.
And on the right is Terry Collins,
who is from the Statehouse in Alabama, who actually initiated the law,
started the law, and sponsored the law.
Joe, caveman Joe, one grunt for yes,
two grunts for no.
Are we looking at two women on the screen right now?
One grunt for yes will be fine.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We are looking at two women.
So men should not be making laws about women's bodies.
Did you miss that?
Now, here's where it gets good.
Because this just goes to show you,
and hat tip to Beckett Adams at the Washington Examiner,
that doesn't like me very much, but it's all right.
It's okay.
I like good content.
Beckett Adams has a piece up at the Washington Examiner
who pointed out something odd.
It's not just that women played a key part
in the signing of this legislation,
who the governor and the woman who proposed it,
but ironically, we're going to take a look here in a second,
and I have this article up at the show notes today.
I strongly encourage you to read it from Beckett Adams
it's good in the Washington Examiner
here is a picture
K-Man Joe get ready
again this one grunt for yes
two grunts for no
I'm going to show you a picture
of the 1972 Supreme Court composition
Roe v. Wade was decided in 73
but it's the same supreme court this is an
article from the daily news with a picture of the supreme court decision where they made abortion a
i'm using air quotes here because it's not it's nowhere in the constitution where they made it
a right so keep in mind the democrats are saying men should not decide on abortion. Here are the people who made abortion, quote, legal.
Okay, man, Joe, look at the picture of the Supreme Court.
Remember, one grunt for yes, two grunts for no.
So be careful here.
Are there any women in this picture of the Supreme Court that made abortion, air quotes here,
a right.
Are there any women in that picture?
Thank you.
Two grunts for no.
Thank you, Kate Manjo,
for your appearance on the show today.
Very nice.
Well done, Joe.
Very funny.
Thank you.
He's back.
Ladies and gentlemen,
if men shouldn't be making laws about women's bodies, then Roe v. Wade should be thrown out.
I mean, I'm not crazy, right?
Because an actual woman signed the abortion restriction.
It was proposed by a woman.
There were men involved, no question about it, especially on the Senate side in Alabama.
Unlike liberals, I don't lie.
I don't need to. Of course there were men involved.
And almost exclusively men on the Senate side. But a woman sponsored
the bill, a woman signed the bill, and yet all men,
no women at all, decided that abortion was air quotes a right based on
some privacy penumbra they invented, the Supreme Court.
Folks, it's really not hard to debunk liberal nonsense.
And listen, I get a guy, he supports abortion, folks, it's really not hard to debunk liberal nonsense. It's not.
And listen, I get a guy, he supports abortion.
He emails me.
It's fine.
Listen, you're welcoming enough.
It's a free show, folks.
I say all the time.
It's no obligation to listen.
I deeply respect my listeners.
I give out my email for a reason.
I want to hear your feedback.
But I just find, argue it on the merits.
I believe life begins at conception
and you're terminating a life.
That makes my decisions on this very simple.
You disagree, that's fine.
But don't lie about it.
Men shouldn't be writing laws about women's body
as Gigi Hadid says.
Men invented the right.
All men.
Oh, no, no, I don't mean nose men.
I just mean the Alabama men should be. You mean the Alabama woman that signed a bill? No, no, no. I don't mean nose men. I just mean the Alabama
men should be. You mean the Alabama woman
that signed a bill? No, no, not her either.
You have no point. Your principle's
garbage. It's nonsense because it's not a
principle at all.
Like Amash's principle that he's
a libertarian who now
conveniently supports the police state?
Red flag on the field, folks. Go under the hood for review here i'm not
sure about that one all right i got a lot more to get to okay uh story number four for the lot
happened over the weekend so last night you know i'm hesitant to even bring this up because if
you're a listener of this show regularly this is almost like paula said last night you should just
cut some of your old show and
reinsert it here joe last night get ready for the breaking news we found out last night
yeah we found out that the uk was spying on the trump team
okay now again let me notice this because joe's like, we've only been talking about this since episode 628.
It's so anticlimactic.
And here's the, by the way, here's the piece.
I'll get to a snippet from it in a second.
But the Telegraph last night, Ben Reilly Smith puts out this supposedly explosive bombshell that Theresa May's spy chiefs were briefed on the
explosive Steele dossier before Donald Trump.
Folks, this is not, the fact that it's not an interesting story is interesting, if that
makes sense.
We have reported to you for eons that the United Kingdom was deeply involved in a, I
believe, a rogue intelligence operation.
Remember Devin Nunes?
He says this all the time, that there was no official intelligence used to start this
investigation.
I believe, as I said to George Papadopoulos this weekend, my wife and I had dinner with
him out in Beverly Hills.
Again, I'm not going to say rare because the place might get firebombed by tyrannical liberals.
You ate in that place, burn it to the ground.
It's contaminated.
You know, the tolerant ones, right?
But yeah, I met with George.
Me and Paul went out with Simone and him.
We had a long conversation.
I'm going to get to some of that too.
Some of you may be thinking,
gosh, why aren't you talking about that?
I got that.
I got a lot of news.
We missed a lot last week
because it was so busy on Spygate revelations, right?
Ladies and gentlemen, this is nothing new.
The United Kingdom, Steele, his connections, Dear Love, and others were unquestionably engaged in a rogue intelligence operation.
When I say rogue, I want to be clear what I mean.
I mean I believe it was an unofficial operation.
The Central Intelligence Agency and our intelligence partners have documented procedures for spying on people,
issuing CI numbers, the paying of money.
Folks, listen, I worked in the federal government.
I worked with the CIA a lot on overseas trips.
They're very good at what they do.
But it is still a government bureaucracy, Joe.
There's paperwork.
There's informant numbers that are issued that are like license plates for informants.
So there are rules about what the CIA can do. And it's not like the movies. there's informant numbers that are issued that are like license plates for informants so we there
are rules about what the cia can do and it's not like the movies again there's no jason bourne in
this okay that's not how this works it's a bureaucracy like anything else the question is
if the united kingdom was assisting the united states with intelligence on the trump team why
is there no official intelligence or in other other words, a paper trail? Because it wasn't official.
It was a black ops type rogue operation.
I believe Brennan was running
with intelligence partners
to keep everything out of the official track
so nobody would see what they were doing.
And the conduit for that was Christopher Steele,
who was not an official intelligence operator anymore.
He was a former British
intelligence guy. So therefore, he had no paperwork requirements. There's no doubt.
So this story last night, here's a little piece from it, by the way, just so you know what to
talk about. Theresa May's spy chiefs were secretly briefed on explosive dossier about Donald Trump's
ties to Russia before the U.S. president was made aware of its existence. The Telegraph can reveal.
Again, shocking, right?
And I say that with in jest.
The heads of MI5 and MI6, one of Ms. May's most trusted security advisors,
were told about former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele's memos
on the Trump campaign in the weeks after his November 2016 election victory.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not kidding when I tell you that this thing was promoted by them
like the biggest bombshell ever. It is old news. What you say, Dan, why are you
bringing it up? Because folks, again, this case is so devastating, the spying operation on Trump,
that if I were to come into this cold, you had no background or knowledge about Spygate at all.
And I opened this show today saying, ladies and gentlemen, the United Kingdom is now acknowledging that the heads of their spying operations, MI5 and MI6, the domestic and foreign intelligence operators, were briefing the UK prime minister about intelligence gathered on Donald Trump by someone paid by Hillary before they told Donald Trump, the incoming president of the United States.
You'd be like, what? You wouldn't United States, you'd be like, what?
You wouldn't believe it.
You'd be like, get this guy off the air.
He's like Bill Nye, the fake science guy.
He's crazy.
Get him off the air.
He's the conspiracy theorist.
We already knew this.
This story is interesting because it's uninteresting.
They're finally admitting now the reason I really bring
this story up
is there's something going on here you need to know
why
is this coming out now
why is the UK
finally admitting
their role in a rogue intelligence
operation to gather negative
information on Trump and make sure it got out there to the widest audience. And in the case
of the United States used to spy on Trump and his team do tell folks, Trump's getting ready
to declassify this stuff. You may say, ah, we've heard that before. No, no, it's I'm, I'm, I assure
you it's going to happen.
I don't like to get into the predictions game anymore, but I can tell you based on a reasonably good amount of intel,
he is going to declassify this stuff shortly.
And when it's declassified, I'd like to say it's going to shock your soul,
but your soul's already been shocked.
But the level of involvement by people with deep connections to United Kingdom intelligence officials is going to become transparent.
The UK is now trying to get out in front of the story by feeding information to friendlies at the Telegraph, like Ben Riley Smith.
And they're, mark my words, we've called it the whole time,
Joe, the narrative shifts. Treason.
Collusion. Obstruction.
Trump's a bad guy. Orange man
bad. We've called it,
I've told you every time how the narrative
is going to shift. The narrative, the
UK is going to try to get out
there now. Mark my words
is that this was
so serious when St when steel told us that we had a brief
mi5 and mi6 in other words we thought this was real like we weren't spying we were taken to by
this information because we thought it was so legitimate and so real you get what i'm saying
joe yeah they're gonna start filtering out there just like mccabe and comey
and baker and brennan and clapper and all these other fools they're gonna start to filter stories
to the media about how grave this threat was and they were just acting in the best interest of
national security not politics because why were they really spying on Donald Trump? For political
reasons. It's obvious. They thought Hillary Clinton would be elected. Rogue operators over
there used their intelligence channels to do what Americans couldn't. The UK has looser surveillance
laws. They spied on the Trump team because the United States couldn't. It's as simple as that.
And when they got the information, they had to reconstruct
it on the law enforcement side.
So they just gave it to Christopher Steele, a trusted
FBI source, who walked into court and said,
hey, I got this stuff and it's really good.
It's as simple as that.
The UK is now going to backtrack
and say, we thought this was really serious.
We were acting out of national security.
Remember my first book, Spygate, where we talk about this.
We had a whole chapter on the United Kingdom's real motivations.
We have their own quotes in there for thinking, you know, Donald Trump was a political threat to them.
It's all there.
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So Maria Bartiromo has a great show,
Sunday Morning Futures, on on Sundays.
I can't recommend it enough.
I have before.
She had Trey Gowdy on this weekend.
And Trey Gowdy, I have two clips from this.
There were two interesting things he brought up.
Remember, Gowdy has seen a lot of the classified documents when he was in Congress.
He has since left.
He used to be the chairman of a committee,
so he had access.
And Gowdy has been just a cornucopia
of incredible video and sound lately.
Here's cut one.
I want you to pay special attention here
because it talks specifically about some information
about George Papadopoulos.
And what he's getting into here is when you go to the pfizer court to spy on someone you darn well better tell that pfizer court if you have information that that person joe
is innocent listen to this cut i'll explain more on the other side of it wasn't this presented to
the court earlier yeah you know johnny ratclcliffe is rightfully exercised over the obligations that
the government has to tell the whole truth to a court when you are seeking permission to spy
or do surveillance on an American. And part of that includes the responsibility of providing
exculpatory information or information that tends to show the person did not do something wrong.
If you have exculpatory information and you don't share it with the court,
that ain't good.
I've seen it.
Johnny's seen it.
I'd love for your viewers to see it.
All right, so that's the transcripts
of FBI agents and George Papadopoulos.
The transcripts?
What do you mean transcripts, Maria?
Keep in mind, Maria knows this case
better than anybody.
Maria asks great questions, great follow-up questions,
and she always leaves you with the tidbit you need to take away from her show.
There are transcripts of George Papadopoulos' conversations?
Wow, isn't that fascinating?
How did that happen?
I thought Alexander Downer, the guy George meets in a London bar in May,
I thought Downer was just an Australian diplomat in London
who just wanted to meet with George,
and I thought it was George who mentioned something about Russians,
and everybody panicked.
Joe, please tell me you understand where we're going.
I spoke to George this weekend, by the way, for a very long time.
George is convinced Downer was recording him
convinced that's from george's mouth he doesn't have any problem with me sharing this with you
he said it on my own show when i had when he interviewed yeah remember the story we've been
told by the fbi joe their story story one the false story is that this australian diplomat
who's in london meets with papadopos. It's not any kind of a setup.
And at that meeting, Papadopoulos says, just days after hearing from Mifsud, the Maltese professor about this alleged Russian dirt, that Papadopoulos, in some drunken stupor, tells Downer, the Russians have emails and they're going to try to help Trump.
That was the official story we were told.
Keep in mind, neither Downer nor Papadopoulos say that story's true.
Downer's already admitted this topic never came up.
Papadopoulos says, I never talked about emails with Downer at all.
But if Downer's just some innocent Australian diplomat who found this information and was passing it on out of the kindness of his heart to the FBI months later.
I'm worried.
This guy Papadopoulos told me about the Russians trying to impact the election.
Then why was he recording Papadopoulos?
Is there a recording of that?
What does that recording say?
Is there a recording of that?
What does that recording say?
Apparently, former Congressman Gowdy's seen some of it,
and he seems to think that that information indicates the opposite of what the FBI is saying.
In other words, that some of the comments George made
had nothing to do with the Russians at all.
Wow.
Isn't that interesting?
There are tapes out there of exculpatory evidence,
meaning evidence.
Papadopoulos is innocent of anything of innocence,
all these charges.
And you didn't tell the Pfizer court pretty fascinating,
isn't it?
Yeah.
Let me ask you another question about downer,
by the way,
because I keep telling you this was a rogue intelligence operation.
In other words,
it wasn't formalized through the CIAia bureaucracy okay and i believe that i believe they tried to avoid
a paper trail because they knew they were spying on donald trump's team in a politically motivated
spying operation it's as simple as that so they kept it off the books that's why all the crap was
at the top yeah right got it yes all right that's right and they kept it at the top. Yeah, right. Got it. Yes. All right. That's right.
They kept it at the top levels of the CIA and the FBI to avoid scrutiny by rank and file agents and operators who would have said, what the hell is this?
That's what that's about.
Yeah.
But number one, why was Downer recording Papadopoulos at all if Downer was just there meeting him for some drinks?
Secondly, why is it that Downer, the guy who out of the kindness of his heart passes this information on to the FBI,
why did Downer run immediately to the DCM, the second highest U.S. official in London, Elizabeth Dibble, the deputy chief
of mission under the ambassador.
The ambassador wasn't there at the time.
Why did Downer do that?
This is where me and George have a little bit of a divergent opinion on this.
He seems to think Downer was working directly with the FBI early or he kind of feels that
way.
I hope, George George you can text
me if I'm summarizing your comments wrong I disagree if Downer was working with the FBI
was an FBI source there's absolutely no reason for him to run to the U.S. embassy and talk to
the DCM right Joe just go to the FBI you're working with him yeah that's what I would think
hey look he showed I mean if I'm trying to nail Joe and I got a recording device on and I'm working with the FBI to nail Joe for a bank robbery and Joe says I robbed a bank, I don't run to the U.S. mission.
I just give it to the FBI.
Folks, I've worked cases before.
It doesn't make any sense.
Same.
What was Downer doing then?
I think Downer was part of this rogue intelligence operation.
I think Downer was part of this rogue intelligence operation.
And somebody on the intel side that wanted to keep it off the books said,
you know,
I'll bet if you give this information to someone at the U S embassy at the highest levels,
like the DCM,
the number two,
I'll bet this will somehow weave its way all the way back to the FBI and make
it look like this wasn't the intel operation we're running,
but it was just an innocent guy like Downer providing a tip.
I'll bet that happens if you give it to the State Department
under the Obama administration.
Conveniently, Christopher Steele's interviewing with the State Department
just months later in October, Kathleen Kavalec, where she took those notes.
Isn't that really special how that works
out? Again, fortifying my theory that the FBI opened a case on Steele's information
from Russians, not understanding that that same information was being fed to U.S. intelligence assets who were
running a rogue operation who had to clean it. They could not tell anyone they were running an
operation. They had the FBI formally open a case. So they tell Steele, hey, go work as a source for
the FBI. Well, yeah, I'm just going to tell them the same stuff I told you. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
That's fine. Just hide where it came from. We'll make it out like you, the verified
source who's worked with them before, like, this is your stuff.
Cut number two.
Here's Gowdy talking about
how the dossier,
the Steele information, was used
multiple times,
and something at the end, we're going to end the show today,
this is going to blow your mind, is something he says at the end about when it was to end the show today. This is going to blow your mind.
It's something he says at the end about when it was used the fifth time.
That's causing a whole lot of controversy lately.
Pay close attention to what he says about the fifth time the dossier was used.
Take me back to an email that Jim Comey wrote to his upper echelon staff.
This is also considered classified, but you've seen it.
What can you tell us about it?
Well, take a half step back. I mean, people use the word dossier and it has such an official sound to it. I mean, let's just call it for what it is. It's a series of rank hearsay
copulations put together by an FBI source who was later defrocked, paid for by the Democrat
National Committee.
And oh, by the way, Christopher Steele hated Donald Trump, too.
So we can call it a dossier. It sounds official.
It's really something the National Enquirer would blush if they print it.
So we know that it was used four times by the United States government.
What we're trying to figure out is whether or not it was used a fifth time in the intelligence assessment. And you got Brennan, Clapper and Comey, all three who know full well whether or not it was used in
the intelligence assessment. But they're giving you different they're giving you different versions.
So there is information that exists in December of 2016. And I hope anyone who has access to it,
Senator Burr, Devin, whoever is open minded, go look at that.
And I think it will help you understand whether or not that dossier, that unverified hearsay was used for five times or just four times by the United States government.
It's pretty bad if it was just four times. It's really bad if it was five.
Jim Comey calls it the crown material.
All right, Joe, we're going to need can you go out and buy a Gaudi translator in addition to the new translator? it was just four times it's really bad if it was five jim comey calls it the crown material all
right joe we're gonna need can you go out and buy a gaudy translator in addition to the new
yeah sure i'm gonna we're gonna need i have to translate for you what he's saying yeah what does
he mean the dossier was used four times he means the fisa in october to spy on the trump team in
carter page october 2016 and the three renewals of the FISA that lasted
into the Trump presidency,
into the summer of 2017.
Those are one FISA,
three renewals. The
dossier, or he
smartly says, let's not even worry
about the word dossier. Let's just call it
the hearsay and the Steele informant. It's important
because it's not just the
written dossier. It's what Steele said
to people. Maybe people in
the CIA and other places.
He may not have given him a physical dossier.
Don't get confused
because then it allows John Brennan to go, well, I didn't see
the dossier until December. Did you talk to Steele?
Oh, that's a different story.
So Gowdy
says we know it was used four times
to spy on the trump team steals information
don't get caught up in the dossier thing steals information is hearsay was used which we now know
one of his sources according to steal himself was russian two of his sources were russian
putin's right hand guys now why is this fifth time important what is he talking about
the fifth use of the dossier what he's referring to is the intelligence community assessment issued after Trump wins the presidency.
It's issued in December.
Trump wins the election in November.
In December, the hacks at the top of the intelligence community, not the rank and file guys.
They were out of this.
This was run by the cabal at the top, as Joe said before.
They issue a report called the ICA, the Intelligence Community Assessor.
Remember that?
17 intelligence agencies agreed the Russians hacked the election to help Donald Trump.
They did?
Because no hard evidence has emerged yet of this exact mechanics of this hack, by the way, of the election.
Especially of the DNC.
And how do we know they tried to help Trump?
Well, that's where this email chain between Comey and Brennan comes in.
Comey and Brennan have turned on each other, just like we predicted.
Comey and Brennan have turned on each other just like we predicted.
Brennan's saying, no, no, Jim Comey wanted me to say,
wanted me to put the dossier in the intelligence community assessment.
And Brennan's and Comey saying the opposite about Brennan.
Comey's saying, no, Brennan told us to put it in there.
Why does any of this matter?
Because ladies and gentlemen, by December of 2016, it's obvious the source, Christopher Steele, is hot garbage.
He can't keep his own story right.
He can't remember the Cohen Prague details.
He's telling the State Department Russians are his sources.
His story is completely falling apart.
Cohen wasn't in Prague.
The FBI in January interviews one of Steele's sources, finds out he's totally illegitimate.
By December, they know it.
But by December, they renewed the FISA three more times.
Yes, on bad information.
Now, to cover their tracks, what do they need, Joe?
They need a special counsel investigation.
The only way to get a special counsel investigation
is to get the intelligence community
to go back to the Steele information for the fifth time.
The fifth time to put that information in the ICA
to make the American public believe
that Trump won the election because of it.
Don't believe me?
Here's Obama flipping the script on himself.
Here's Obama before the election
talking about how there's nothing to worry about
in the election, about the election being hacked.
Everything is safe and dandy.
Here we go.
It happens to be based on no facts
every expert regardless of political party regardless of ideology conservative or liberal
who has ever examined these issues in a serious way will tell you that
instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found, that keep
in mind elections are run by state and local officials, which means that there are places
like Florida, for example, where you've got a Republican governor
whose Republican appointees are going to be running and monitoring a whole bunch of these
election sites. The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida, it's because
of those people that you have to watch out for, that is both irresponsible and by the way doesn't really show the kind of
leadership and toughness that you'd want out of a president okay there's obama here's the here's
the problem they have obama is on the record before the election in the rose garden saying
nobody's gonna hack our elections.
We have another cut from this, right, Joe?
The no serious person one?
Play cut two.
Listen to this one.
There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections.
In part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of
votes involved there's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances
in which that will happen this time okay see where i'm going with this why do they go back
to the christopher steel information for the fifth time to produce an intelligence community assessment that says the Russians hacked the election because Obama is on a record saying you can't hack the election.
So Obama, after he's like, holy crap, how did we just lose that?
Trump.
Now we got to hide all of our stuff.
We spied on Trump.
We didn't expect this guy to win.
Now what do we do?
Well, we're going to need the intelligence community to say the Russians hacked the election.
We're helping Trump so we can investigate Trump to get him out of office to hide our stuff.
We can't. Obama said you can't hack an election. So the ICA produces this thing,
the intelligence community, this thing based on the crap dossier for the fifth time,
which Comey and Brennan apparently disagree about. And then Obama changes his mind after this and says this.
In this new cyber age, we're going to have to make sure that we continually work to find
the right balance of accountability and openness and transparency that is the hallmark of our democracy,
but also recognize that there are adversaries and bad actors out there who want to use that
same openness in ways that hurt us.
Whether that's in trying to commit financial crimes or trying to commit acts of terrorism
or folks who want to interfere with our elections.
Oh, no.
What?
I thought you couldn't interfere with our elections.
Now cyber criminals are interfering with our elections?
There's Obama planting the seed seed he's about to do
the flip the script thing hey what i said about people not being an impact our elections that's
not true because hey the intelligence community said it well what did the intelligence community
base that on oh the dossier you mean the same dossier used to spy on trump for yeah that one
you mean the discredited one yeah that one you one. You mean the one that came from Russians?
Yeah, that one.
You mean the same Russians you're criticizing?
Yes, that one.
Beautiful.
Well done, Trey Gowdy.
Nice job.
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