The Dan Bongino Show - Self-Defense Masterclass with Rener Gracie (SPECIAL) - 11/24/23

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

In this special episode, I break down five different REAL self-defense scenarios with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu expert Rener Gracie. Rener's products featured on the show: Gracie University Quikflip Appa...rel Sleeper Hold Travel Pillow Copyright Bongino Inc All Rights Reserved Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not a meme to the facts with your host dan bongino hope you all enjoyed thanksgiving yesterday by the way it appears a bunch you know rule strikes again with what happened the other day uh i warned you you got to wait 72 hours before drawing conclusions so there you you go. Strikes again. I'm really looking forward to this show. You probably know Henner Gracie. His family is legendary. The Gracie family.
Starting point is 00:00:31 They're experienced with self-defense, mixed martial arts. There's just, they're peerless in the actual sense of the word. I'm going to get to him in a second. We're going to go over to the self-defense show with some helpful tips. By the way, if you can get away from these situations, do. Do not get into a fight in the street. This is only if you have absolutely no other way out of this stuff. This is going to be an important show. I promise you're going to love it. Hey, you want to discover the incredible benefits of a good night's sleep. It's time to embrace the
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Starting point is 00:03:21 the business of self-defense than any other family in America, our friend, Henner Gracie. Henner, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for spending some time with us today. Thanks, Dan. Great to be with you here and excited to talk about some self-defense concepts. I feel like it's better to know it and not need it than to need it and not know it. It's one of those things. So happy to be here with you today. Well, listen, you did some segments on my prior Fox show. They were always rated highly because you're a great explainer of how sadly fighting, I wish it were easy and it were like the movies, Henner, where this burst of adrenaline happens and you get mugged and Chuck Norris style, you kick 10 guys in the head and it's like, oh my gosh, look, I got these.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You see it in the movies all the time. Henner is a guy who's, I mean, lived, quite literally lived the fighting lifestyle. You and your family, just generally speaking, before we get into some videos and having been in professional fights, fights on the street, you know, as well as I do, that's not the real world that you fighting is a skill just like baseball. You either practice it or you're going to suck at it. Yeah. Not only is it not, not only is that not realistic, there's another concern here, Dan, which is the distances at which fights are fought in the movies are a lie, right? This idea that
Starting point is 00:04:43 two people stand there and they trade punches and kicks and snappy, flashy kicks and spinning techniques. And then someone lands the perfect knockout and down they go. That's not real. What's real is a couple of guys, someone spits on someone, someone disrespects someone's family, push comes to shove. One guy swings, the other guy gets cracked. The other guy grabs a hold of them. They've together, they trip and they fall onto the ground. And then on the ground, as you have this wrestling tumble, and neither one of them know what to do because they fell for Hollywood for so many years. So what the Gracie family has done is really redefined the distance from which fights are fought for real. And then
Starting point is 00:05:20 when my father created the UFC in 1993 and put Brazilian jiu-jitsu on television, along with my uncle Hoyce, everyone was kind of put on notice and said, look, this is what real fights look like. When one person grabs the other person and the fight goes to the ground, whoever knows what they're doing in that tumble wins. And whoever doesn't know literally drowns in the fight. You drown in the fight as much as someone drowns in a pool or in a lake who doesn't know how to swim. That's the difference between knowing self-defense, especially jujitsu-based self-defense and not. That is so well said. Henner, let's get right to it. This is a gentleman you and I both know and respect. Our good friend, Matt Serra. Matt Serra is a noted black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He was under Henzo and worked with Rodrigo.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Family members of yours as well. Matt was also a UFC champion. Matt is a very skilled ground fighter. This video, I'm starting out because it's the easiest one to explain, Henner. Something goes down in a restaurant in Las Vegas. Matt happens to be there. There's an out-of-control guy guy appears to be a little bit intoxicated. And as you can see, as Guy plays a video here, Matt has to calm this guy down. Now, Matt, whether he outweighs this guy or not, I don't know, but Matt's very calm. You're watching the video. What's the first thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:39 we can stop and wind this video back. What's the first thing you see watching this right here? Well, the first thing I noticed is that Matt is not fighting a guy in my, I don't know what happened before this, but one thing that jujitsu empowers us to do is to put out fires that have nothing to do with us. So my assumption, it could be incorrect, but my assumption is that this guy was belligerent in the store causing problems for other people. And then Matt probably went in there and said, Hey man, don't do X, Y, or Z. And the guy got belligerent again, Matt takes him down and puts out this fire because he's capable of doing that. And you notice Matt's not throwing a single strike. He's simply controlling the subject from the mountains is called the Mount. And I'm happy
Starting point is 00:07:15 to demonstrate some of the concepts here with my colleague Cameron, but he's controlling the subject's risks as well. And one other thing that's worth noting. And when, I don't know if you guys can hear the audio, but if you can't, what Matt was saying to the security guard right there, Dan, was he was saying, look, I'm going to let him go, but are you ready to take over? Because Matt knows that this security guard, which himself doesn't look in the best of shape and almost always are completely untrained. So Matt knows he's like, yo, I'm going to hand this guy off to you, but are you ready to control him? Because the security guard was telling Matt to get off. And all Matt is saying,
Starting point is 00:07:51 listen, if I get off, he's going to get up. Are you ready to take over? And the security star says, yes, get off. And if the tape continues, if he wants to keep rolling the tape, the guy gets right back to his feet. Look at this. And he gets right back up. No one has control of him now. So literally Matt's control when he was trying to help put out this fire, the security guard can do nothing. Now, if the guy starts swinging again, that security guard is not prepared. And I can't tell you, Dan, how many times students of ours have taken down individuals in altercations and use of force situations. And when the police show up, our students say to the police, I'm going to alleviate my control on him,
Starting point is 00:08:27 but I don't want to do it unless you're ready. So I'll move this chair out of the way here and Cameron will come on in so we can show this position. This is called the mount. So Cameron is down. So for all of the viewers and all the listeners, the mount is when the top person has knees
Starting point is 00:08:38 on either side of the bottom person's hips. And what Matt was doing was he had double wrist control. The reason why he did this is he wanted to be able to survey the crowd, talk to everyone, look around, make sure everyone's safe, still address the subject, and make sure that this person couldn't go for the groin or for the eyes. So a very skilled grappler can sit up with their knees on either side of the hips like this,
Starting point is 00:08:57 with their knees controlling and the hands controlled, and Matt literally is riding here, and he's the guy that's bumping and turning and moving a little bit, and Matt has no trouble just maintaining the mount right here now if the bottom person was much much stronger and they were going much more aggro than this kind of belligerent subject that was in the restaurant there the better way to control from the mount if you have to have more control against someone larger instead of sitting up because against someone much larger he might bump and push me off go and I might fall off to the side like that. So to avoid that, Dan, what we want to do instead is go chest to chest, hug the neck, and insert the hooks.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Look at my legs, Dan. Do you see how my knees – touch my knees, Cameron. Show them how my knees are floating. Look at my knees, you guys. They're floating off the ground. So all my weight's on Cameron's hips, and I'm hugging his neck. If I just lay on Cameron without my hooks, look, he can push my hips away and bump me right off. The key here, Dan, is that my legs go under Cameron's,
Starting point is 00:09:49 look, inside, and I'm dragging both feet to the sky while simultaneously hugging his neck. Now if Cameron tries to bench press me, there's no way. And all the pressures on his abdomen, he'll try for 10, 15 seconds, and then he starts to feel the pressure and stops. He's like, man, okay, I give up. I surrender.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Then I would loosen up my hip pressure, go to my knees. And only then would I sit up in control. And to be honest, because we didn't see what happened in the beginning of Matt's video, we don't know if Matt did this first and then sat up after depleting the energy of the subject, or if Matt mounted and went straight to high control. We call this kind of a high mountain where you're sitting up and postured here versus more of a low mountain that gives you more control,
Starting point is 00:10:28 but doesn't give you the ability to see your surroundings as much. Any thoughts about that, Dan? Any questions? Yeah, I got a couple of questions. So we're talking to a lot of untrained folks. Now, Henner, you make this look easy. I mean, you have been doing this forever
Starting point is 00:10:44 and your ability to partition your body weight is almost instinct by now. So the way I watched you manipulate the hips. So I want to emphasize to the audience, this is the kind of thing, although Henner puts the hooks in, you're going to see his hips changing pressure. He's developed a feel through the years, almost like riding a bike for what the pressure from the bottom feels like too. What I'm getting at is I heard it simply stated one time, Henner, and tell me if you agree. Someone said, listen, if I had to just say one thing to people untrained is he who controls the hips controls the fight. And when your hips are on top of his, you're you're sensing it. These pressure changes and making these micro changes. But that only comes with training, correct? It absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But I'll tell you what, Dan, even though like anything, the longer you do it, the more effective you'll become. But I think jujitsu became so famous so quickly all over the world, not only because of its proven effectiveness in the octagon, but also because of the ease with which people can use it. So anyone who's watching right now, listeners, if you're listening, get to the rumble. This is the most viewable episode ever in the history of the Dan Bongino show. So get to rumble, watch the actual episodes. You can see what we're showing right now. This is literal gold. So what I would say is this, literally have one member of the family lay down. Okay. Make sure you're healthy enough to practice martial arts. Ask your doctor. If not disclaimer, blah, blah, blah. But one person lay down with
Starting point is 00:12:11 their knees bent, just like Cameron is right here. Legs up, legs down, top person, go on your knees, hands out wide on the mat, both hands, and then literally drop your pelvis into their abdomen. Look and take both of your feet. Let's rotate. Take both of your feet. Look I'm going to put them together, and then I'm going to drive them to the sky. And you'll know you're doing it right if you can take your hands off the ground. Rotate back. Look, if I can take my hands off the ground, where's my weight, you guys? It's all on my hips. Now that my hands are burden-free, what I'm going to do is hug the neck with one hand. So this is my neck hug. So now I have hip pressure, and I have a neck hug. We can rotate this this way a little and we're good to go. Now, the only thing to make this even more dynamic is if Cameron rolls, if Cameron pushes me straight up on the hips, he can't, I'm unbench pressable.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But if he rolls to the side, I might get rolled off, even though I have my hooks in. Let's go back. So what's amazing you guys is check this out from the neck hug and the handout and my hooks are in. Whenever Cameron chooses a side, watch what I I do I open the knee on the same side so I remove that hook and I open it but I leave my other hook in place so as Cameron goes the other way watch what I do two other side three other side four five boom so if you see it from the rear check it out so I start with both hooks in when Cameron chooses a side slow one so I still have this hook and I have my kickstand over here when he switches two, three, four. And in fact,
Starting point is 00:13:31 this is so powerful Dan that watch this. I'm going to take my hand and put it behind my back. So now I have one neck hug, no base hand and two hooks. Choose a side cam. One, two, three, four, five. And Cameron's tired. Tell him the truth, Cameron. It's exhausting. I'm tired just watching. It affects his breathing.
Starting point is 00:13:52 He can't breathe that well. And he's down there like, yo, get off me. And he's burning energy the entire time. So this is my point, Dan. When you learn jiu-jitsu, you don't have to break your opponent. Like break the arm, break the face. No, with jiu-jitsu and techniques like this, we simply break the opponent's will to fight. That's what I'm after, Dan. I don't want to hurt anybody permanently, just like Matt in that restaurant in Las Vegas. Matt didn't want to pummel the guy. He wanted to break that guy's will to fight
Starting point is 00:14:25 so that that guy was no longer a threat of safety to himself or to any other civilians. Yeah. And one thing, I'm glad you actually checked me on that. I don't mean it to, I didn't mean it to sound to the people at home and frustrate you and say, oh my gosh, I got to grapple for 15 years to do what he just did. No, honestly, folks in a good afternoon, you can learn how to pretty effectively mount. I'm just saying you got to get out there and actually do it. And he's showing you how to do it. And he's absolutely right. If you're healthy enough to do it, you're not hurt. And you got someone willing to help you out. You can try these techniques and in an afternoon, be reasonably confident enough that if you had to use it, you can implement it. One more point on that video, Henner, my takeaway from it is Matt's really calm in that,
Starting point is 00:15:08 but he's not calm by accident. He's calm because he trains. When you train this stuff, just like you'd be nervous if you got up against Roger Clemens and he's throwing you a 94 mile an hour fastball, you're one of the greatest grapplers in the world. You'd be like, oh shit, I don't want to get hit, right?
Starting point is 00:15:23 But no one in the major leagues gets nervous though. It's the same thing about fighting. Matt wasn't nervous because he trains all the time. And when you see him here, the reason a guy in a bottom's freaking out and he's not is because he's practicing and you just gave them some good tips to practice. And that's why you're not sucking wind right now.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You do this all the time. That's a great point. Yeah, and you know what this boils down to? when we talk about, you know, kind of the neurological component of this, when we are calm and in control, we are activating our prefrontal cortex. We're operating from within our prefrontal cortex, which is the rational decision-making part of our brain. Calm, rational decision.
Starting point is 00:16:01 If then it's equations make sense to us. What happens, Dan, is that when we experience what's called the amygdala hijack, right, where the survival part of our brain takes over, that's when all hell breaks loose. And at that point, we're fight or flight. So we're literally just trying to make it and survive a situation. Now, Matt's opponent was probably suffering in amygdala hijack, was having a hijacked moment where he was not in a calm, rational decision-making part of his brain, whereas Matt remained activated in control of his prefrontal cortex. So the difference in those two is, and the prerequisite to maintain prefrontal cortex
Starting point is 00:16:38 is to have a perceived or actual sense of control over your environment. So to say that Matt remained calm, the answer is yes. The reason Matt remained calm is because that environment was so familiar that he felt in control of the other person and of his surroundings. There was nothing about that that caused fight or flight for Matt. That was simply another day at the office. It just happened to be on harder floor and not the mats that he was used to. Now his opponent probably hasn't been pinned on his back by a grown man since forever, since he was a child. So he may not be familiar with that. So he's panicking and Matt's able to stay calm, negotiate and be totally chill. So the goal for everyone, Dan, should be to learn enough jujitsu such that in an altercation,
Starting point is 00:17:24 a physical altercation that is familiar to them, because if it's familiar, that means that there's a perceived sense of control. And if they're in control, they can operate from within their prefrontal cortex, which is safer for them and safer for any other persons that they are intervening with or against. No, absolutely right. Uh, Henry, this one's quick. Uh, we don't need to spend a lot of time on this one, but I use it a lot on my show. You train a lot of police officers. Matter of fact, I think we met at the Secret Service Academy.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I think he rolled through like the entire class. Folks, I'm not even kidding. There were like 40 agents. And he's like, yeah, we're going to roll. And he's like, no, no, with the whole class. Like he went through the whole class. They were all fresh. I was like, this guy's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But I thought he'd be tired by age in 40. But he wasn't. He was still tapping people out. But this one's a pretty simple one. It's a real tragic incident. A guy's coming home in L.A. A couple of people jump the fence. They're armed.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He's caught in what we call in law enforcement a fatal funnel. Obviously, if you're getting into a situation uh with a gun you want to get away you don't want to get shot we get that however this guy's got no choice he's walking down an alleyway into his house and a couple of gunmen i'm going to play the video thoughts on this hold on surveillance video shows a masked intruder with a gun run up to this mid-city man about to walk in his front door. The homeowner pulls out his gun to defend himself, firing shots at the two intruders, quickly entering a shootout. So, Henner, quickly on this one, my takeaway from this, again, if you could get away, get away. Unfortunately, he's in this funnel here.
Starting point is 00:18:58 These human beings have this natural instinct with the eyes. There's nothing you can do. Matter of fact, in the Secret Service, we had a thing called the dead check. If you wanted to make sure the bad guy was dead, the quickest way to do it is to poke him in the eye. Because if you're faking dead, you're still going to protect your eye and blink, right? So I noticed in this thing that the guy has a cup of coffee and whether he does it on purpose or not, I'm unsure, but you'll see he turns and throws it and the guy naturally flinches buying him a few seconds to engage with his own firearm. Your general thoughts on this one?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Well, yeah, I love this. I mean, I don't even know, like you said, if he did it on purpose or not, but to splash the coffee, I mean, really, you're setting up a distraction to create a reaction, right? This is called the creation principle in jiu-jitsu. You do something to get a reaction, to create an advantage for yourself. So this is a very much of a survival life or death situation. It was beautiful that he did that. But for me, what comes, you know, listen, when I see a video like this, I'm reminded of the times because I'll do a ton of breakdowns and self-defense tutorials. And I
Starting point is 00:19:58 show a bunch of things. And in the comments, as we know, Dan, we always get the people who say, yeah, jujitsu is great, but you know, I'll just shoot them. I just carry a gun. I carry a gun. I carry a gun. And my response is typically, you know, 99% of situations for self-defense or boundary setting or physical threats are not firearm related situations, right? And in many cases, using a firearm would be overkill, especially if you're trained in jujitsu. But when I see a situation like this, you know, it just, it really makes me happy to see that at a time where the solution to this was to fight firearm with firearm,
Starting point is 00:20:30 he was armed. And just what a life-saving reality that was for this man and his family who was inside that house. So, you know, the fact that this guy was caring at that time and was able to return fire and scare the living heck out of these guys.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I don't know if he connected with one of them or both of them, but, um, you know, my hat's off to him. I'm happy for him. He's okay. You know, at this, in this situation, the good guy survived because he was carrying a gun. No doubt. Yeah. Yeah. They won't be coming back to that house. Let's jump to the next video. I'll take a quick break after that. And we'll get to a couple more. This one is about improvised weapons. This one was, uh, submitted by your team. I looked at it. I think that I don't know what you're going to say on this. So I'm actually as excited
Starting point is 00:21:09 about this as you are. Here's a video. We're going to see a montage here of people with weapons on the street, bat to the back of the head, extending the stick there. But this guy's got some kind of like chair here.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's a chair. A chair. What is this? This guy's carrying a chain. This guy's swinging a chain this guy's swinging a chain towards this officer you got a chain on this guy crazy situations yeah we got the baseball bat one which i've seen a thousand times i'm pretty sure that was in new york um i i'm again i'll just tell you quick what i take from this and i don't know where you're going with this so i'm excited about your take two, anytime you can lengthen the stick, you know, you do it, but let's see, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:48 that anything you could do to lengthen your weapons out there is going to be dangerous. Your thoughts on these videos and what the general public can learn from these. Sure. And the reason, you know, that montage, there's a chain, there's a chair, there's a baseball bat. We have this little stick right here that we use here just for training weapon. But what I was going to show here with cameron if you guys want to push in is this idea that when someone is using any kind of heavy that's a chair by the way that he's swinging the yellow objects it's an actual folding chair like wwe style and what i wanted to draw on these uh dan is the idea that anytime someone is using a heavy object right we'll call it a chain a baseball
Starting point is 00:22:24 bat a chair we're not talking, a chair. We're not talking about edge weapon and we're not talking about a firearm, right? We're talking about swinging a heavy object. Obviously it can be dangerous, but there are also challenges with swinging a heavy object in that as much as you have to put energy into swinging it, if you don't connect the momentum of that object puts it out of use, out of function for quite some time before you recycle, reload, and then make use of it again. So these weapons are always used in cycles, whereas a knife, there's no cycle. There's just like threading that you're just, you're punching in there and it's very fast and very dangerous. So with a heavy object,
Starting point is 00:23:01 I always feel like when I see these videos of people getting attacked with them, that they're not as dangerous as we might think is my mindset. Because if you manage the distance, you manage the damage. Now, for Cameron, do a very slow motion swing right here, Cameron. Look, freeze right there. Freeze. This right here, Dan, is the one distance from which this, let's call it a baseball bat, is dangerous. Okay, this is the one distance. If he reloads again and I'm right here, go ahead and swing. It's useless. And if he swings again, go ahead, and I go here.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It's also useless. So once you understand that a heavy object like this has one critical distance of impact, you can really use that to shape your response. Now in those videos, especially in the chair one, we saw this guy getting hit, you know, with the chair over and over again, because every time he was getting hit, he was not controlling the distance. But what our objective needs to be when dealing with, yeah, you'll see it here. Every time he gets hit in the head, look, now he's getting up and chasing it again and again and again. And the problem is he's at the tip of that striking zone, that critical danger zone.
Starting point is 00:24:06 He remains at that range the whole time because he's predictably moving. So what I recommend in situations like this, if someone has a bat, go ahead, swing. I want to go out and then I want to go in and close the distance. And then we have options to get the person to the ground. Now here's what's interesting, Dan. Once you have someone with a heavy object like a bat or a chain or even a chair, once we're on the ground, the object is completely useless.
Starting point is 00:24:28 In fact, it's probably more of a liability for Cameron than it is an asset. Like a baseball bat, I would just feed this behind his neck, look, hit me with the stick. He can't. Now I step over, and now I'm striking him potentially, or I can, of course, go for an arm bar and take control of the situation. Drop the weapon. Drop the weapon.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And now I take control, and he has nothing. I can hyperextend his elbow or do whatever else, but let's go back one more time. So there's two times to enter on a heavy object. One is right after they swing it. But for that to be possible, I have to be here. He has to swing and I have to clear it. And right when he clears, I dive in and I lock over and I close the distance and I follow him in. The other option, let's say we have the attacker and they're stalking us. They're stalking us. But they're not committing to the swing.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So if I'm back here and I feel Cameron kind of stalking and he's not committing, I have to rush in right here. So if he does swing now, swing. It's too close. There's no power because we're so close. Rotate here. And then we can, of course, take the fight to the ground using any number of takedowns. So the point is, Dan, all you have to know is you want to be out or in. And I think that the general public,
Starting point is 00:25:37 when they hear of a baseball bat, what they're thinking is, oh, no, it's a bat. I have to get away and back up. And imagine if someone has a bat and I'm backing up over here and Cole follow us in over here. So let's say he's swinging. I'm backing up and he's hitting me. Whoa, I'm backing up. And I hit the wall. No, no, no. All they need to know is that safety is here. You have to go in, right? You have to get into the clinch and close the distance. And I feel like America and for the world in general, when it comes to self-defense, everyone intuitively is aware that distance is safe. Get away. What the world is not aware of is that in many ways, closeness is equally safe if you know what
Starting point is 00:26:23 you're doing. And for people who don't know that closeness is an option, they always get stuck in the corner. They always continue as repeated hits. They're trying to get away, but they can't because there's confined space potentially. And now they're at the end of that striking zone the entire time. This is true for punches.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's true for baseball bats. It's true for chains. It's true for chairs. All the way out or all the way in and time that entry so that you're not at the end of that impact zone. Just a general thought. I mean, again, absolutely incredible instructional advice, Henner. You said something really key there. You know, that actually becomes an impediment when you close the distance, because especially a baseball bat, if you're gripping it with both
Starting point is 00:27:05 hands, because now you know where both of his hands are, they're on the bat. So he's not punching you because he's trying to hold the darn bat. I mean, that's the kind of thing. If you're not at the end of that stick, which the physics of Dix Tates is the most dangerous spot, like you said, that actually does become an impediment for them. As a matter of fact, it's just odd because I really didn't know what you were going to say today. I'm looking forward to this, like I said, that actually does become an impediment for them. As a matter of fact, this is odd because I really didn't know what you were going to say today. I'm looking forward to this, like I said, like anyone else. I saw a video today of a guy. He gets out of a truck because he can't fight and he pulls out an AR-15, never intending to shoot it, thankfully. But what winds up happening, Henner, he gets it taken from him on the ground. The guy rips it out of his
Starting point is 00:27:44 hands. And yeah, and it was the exact same thing you just did on the ground with that stick. I'm going to take a quick break. I've got two more important videos. And then I do want to get something in about, you have a great line of stuff. And then I just, for something for the women I'd like to do as well. Quick break. We'll be right back with Henner. Hey, Mike Lindell is always looking for ways to solve everyday problems. You ever picked up a towel set because it felt really soft in the store. Then when you go to use it, it doesn't actually like, you know, dry you and stuff. That's why MyPillow is developed in MyPillow towels. These towels are incredibly soft and they actually work. The six-piece set has 100% long staple Sherpa cotton. It's a combed ring-spun cotton that
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Starting point is 00:30:00 All right, folks, back to the show with the great Henner Gracie. This has been wonderful so far, Henner. I never know with these specials how these things are going to go, and there's nothing better than when a plan comes into place and you always bring it. So let's go to the next video we talked about so far. Mount position, control on the ground, importance of carrying a firearm, improvised weapons in the street. This is a video from an NBA fight.
Starting point is 00:30:23 What your takeaway is going to be I don't know I got some thoughts on it but I always take a subordinate position to you on this stuff let's take a look at the video check this out here we go fight breaks out look at this that Draymond really right oh oh he's going right for the neck there there we go typical street fight situation everybody loves going for that headlock behind the front, the choke. Everybody's trying to break it up. The worst thing possible in these things. Looks like a melee.
Starting point is 00:30:50 We see it again, a different angle. Right for that neck. Got to protect that brain bucket. You know, Henry, once the computer goes down, we're all screwed. So, ooh, he's got some kind of choke. He may know what he's doing. Henry, your thoughts on this NBA fight. This thing went viral the other day. I had gotten a look at it. What are your takeaways from this?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, well, first of all, just to be clear, and for those who didn't see it live, from what I understand, this strangle, this chokehold happened before the first point was scored between the Wolves, the Timberwolves, and the Golden State Warriors. So this is the beginning of the game. Fight breaks out. Draymond Green chokes Rudy Gobert like this, pulls him back. Eventually they pry his arms off his neck. And I just thought, what a publicized use of a rear strangle for the world to see and go, wow, that's real. People grab each other like that. What could I do in a situation like that? So I wanted to share some critical do's and don'ts, but first just go through the physiology of what's happening here so people understand. So this is called a rear naked choke or a sleeper hold
Starting point is 00:31:53 or a vascular neck restraint in law enforcement, as you know. So the arms are coming around the neck. My elbow is aligning under Cameron's chin with my forearm on either side of his neck, forearm on one side, bicep on the other. And then there's finishing grips. I can do palm to palm, which is called Gable grip. I can grab my own wrist, the way a wrist,
Starting point is 00:32:11 the way Draymond green did, or we can go into what's called the fully locked. And at this point I'm squeezing the arteries. And in six seconds, Dan, he'll be rendered unconscious. So six seconds of unobstructed pressure on the arteries, blood flow is affected to to and from the brain.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You pass out. If someone lets go, you wake up spontaneously in a few seconds. If the subject doing the technique does not let go after you pass out and they hold the pressure for anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds or more, you risk causing irreversible brain damage or death. So continuous occlusion of the arteries here in the neck for 30 seconds or more, you risk causing irreversible brain damage or death. So continuous occlusion of the arteries here in the neck for 30 seconds or more starts to get in really,
Starting point is 00:32:51 really sketchy waters. You don't want to mess with that ever. Typically, neck restraints are very safe. And if someone passes out, they'll wake up. However, if you hold it for a prolonged period of time after the loss of consciousness is reached, there's risk of irreversible brain damage or death. So if you're in Cameron's position, there's no way you can let someone keep hold of your arteries for that long. And in the NBA there, he had pressure and he was going for a good like three to five seconds. Now his pressure was not perfect.
Starting point is 00:33:16 There were small gaps on the side of the application, which allowed for blood flow. But if you get, if any of the viewers or listeners get caught in this situation in a real life threat, you need to know what to do because you literally have six seconds before your clock runs out and you're unconscious. And then what happens after you lose consciousness is up to the attacker. Right. You don't have any control in that matter. So for this technique, when you're getting squeezed right here, what we want to do is a technique called the shoulder slip. We're going to slip his shoulder between our bodies. And now Cameron is facing me just like that. Now, even though I still have his neck, Dan, I'm on one side of the neck and that's not enough to plug the arteries to cause the loss of consciousness. Go back to Cameron. So once again, if I'm here, what Cameron's going to do is the side of my arm that is wrapping his neck.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So my right arm in this case, Cameron's same arm is going to slide. I'll turn sideways so they can see. Look, his same arm is going to slide between our bodies. Look at that. And hug my body. Go back. So, and his legs go a little wider for us, Cole. So his legs, check out his feet. So in order to make that possible, Cameron is going to step forward with his left foot and that creates space for his right foot to step through. And then his shoulder goes through and now I no longer have it. So even if I'm holding very tightly, Dan, in this situation, even if I'm fully locked in, Cameron can still do this.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And even though it's going to squeeze his neck a little bit, he's going to get a little neck crank. Even though that's true, he's going to survive because the pressure on his arteries is alleviated. And now keep the clinch, Cameron. Here, the guy might try to punch you or push you and then he can push away and escape
Starting point is 00:34:42 or take me down to the ground if he has an option. Now, here's the warning for everyone watching right now. If I do the same technique and Cameron does the exact same move, but he goes the wrong way and shoulders slip this way, freeze. Not only does it not get out, he'll actually get squeezed more quickly, and he's going to go to sleep even faster. So this is called a bulldog choke. You do not want this to happen. So if I have his neck right here and Cameron steps forward and goes the wrong way again, freeze. This is a very dangerous choke. It's very tight. And six seconds turns into three or four when you go here because of how tight it is. He's unconscious. So let's go back. So Cameron
Starting point is 00:35:19 has to remember which way does he go? Same side arm as the choking arm, Cameron's same arm as my arm. That's the arm that he's going to slip through with and dip the shoulder coming right between our bodies, entering the clinch. And at this point, either take me down or disengage and get to safety. Now, Henner, the most important takeaway I get from that is if you're caught, God forbid, in this position where your carotids are being restrained, blood flow's shutting down, you realistically, I've seen guys go out, probably less than six seconds, maybe three or four. You're out. You're out. He could be smashing a bottle on your head. You've seen it in these horrible street fight videos. They're kicking him in the teeth. Guy wakes up. He's got no teeth, a broken face. If you're going to do this,
Starting point is 00:36:05 you have to make that move relatively quickly or that computer is going to lock down pretty fast. That's absolutely right, Dan. And listen, when I showed the mount techniques earlier, where we were talking about hip pressure and that and this, you could learn the move quickly. Everyone can do it in their living rooms today. Like you can lay down and practice hip pressure. And this move as well with the neck wrapped and a cooperative partner, you could learn how to slip your shoulder and face the subject and free your neck in a matter of seconds. But you're right, Dan, in the moment where situation is hostile, maybe you're suffering in amygdala hijack. Maybe your brain is not in the PFC, prefrontal cortex. You're panicking
Starting point is 00:36:43 and you're trying to get this hand off your neck. You're absolutely right that you're going to panic for a few seconds. What we need to hope, what we hope for is that before that six second clock runs out, that you've effectively identified your escape pathway and you've started that move. And I'll tell you what, Dan, like anything else and like what you alluded to earlier, it's only possible if this is muscle memory, your body has to learn that this is the only thing it does. The same way you flinch when someone touches your eyes, you're just automatic. When someone wraps your neck, you just shoulder slip. And what's awesome, if we cut a little bit here, check this out, is that even if I'm kneeling and Cameron wraps my neck, look, I'm just getting strangled in a street fight and he's behind me. Maybe I'm not standing up and I don't have all
Starting point is 00:37:23 the footwork, but this exact same concept, look, my shoulder's out. My shoulder is out. Now I lay down. He might end up on top of me, but look, he's no longer strangling my neck. Even though I'm the bottom, I'm alive. I'm conscious. So that was the shoulder slip applied in a situation where we're kneeling. Or let's say Cameron's off to my side over here and he wraps my neck with his front arm and he's strangling me look it's this go to your knee but it's the same concept right here he could be squeezing my shoulder has slipped out I'm out so once you understand uh Dan that when someone strangles you the fight is not here this is not the fight Dan the fight is here I'm out I'm out
Starting point is 00:38:01 my shoulder's free I'm free, you see? So that's going to be the challenge for people learning is that they think the fight is the choke. It's not. The fight is the orientation of the attacker's chest on our back. And once we change the orientation, the chest to back connection by slipping the shoulder and turning facing the subject we completely melt away the effectiveness of the choke the problem is people typically respond to that which is doing the damage so when you're getting strangled at your neck you think the response needs to be at the neck no forget the neck defend the chest to back connection and just one more tangent on this this is why that if i'm on cameron's back in a fight look at this this is called hooks
Starting point is 00:38:50 dan when i put my hooks in like this right so now because i go for a choke here and i have my hooks now cameron cannot do the shoulder slip because of my legs look so no matter where cameron goes give us a little movement cam look no matter where he goes give us a little movement look no matter where he goes now he cannot affect he cannot affect my chest to back connection and the fight's over so the point I'm making is this if an expert jiu-jitsu master or practitioner of a few months who knows this move gets on your back and inserts their hooks and applies the choke, they are preserving the integrity of the chest to back connection. And therefore you can't do the shoulder slip. You need another move, which we're going to show in next week's podcast. But the point is, if you have hooks in it,
Starting point is 00:39:38 negates the shoulder slip, but for the general public's purposes and for the NBA purposes, and for just general self-defense, Dan, we're not talking about expert jujitsu chokes. We're talking about Draymond Green on your neck, trying to strangle you. And all you need to know is shoulder slip. Shoulder splits, man. I took out of this, you know, the Wu-Tang lesson, protect your neck. I mean, that was it. So Wu-Tang Clan was on this years ago in that rap song. Let's jump into this last one, Henner. And this is a really important one. This is a man in a pharmacy. Mental problems. I don't know. Looks like he's trying to abduct what is a 13 year old girl.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm going to play the video. Your thoughts on the other side of this. Let's take a look. Watch as a man grabs a 13 year old girl, then drags her through the Dollar General located just outside of Tampa. You can see her fighting back, her mother running after, hanging on to her, even laying on top of her to save her daughter. What you can't hear is the screaming. Citrus County deputies say the girl, her mom, and the store manager were shouting for help. Deputy Jonathan Bainan was off duty and just happened to be right outside. He stopped this man, Craig Bonello, from getting away. In the seconds before the attack, the video shows Bonello pushing a cart.
Starting point is 00:40:57 He looks around, then goes straight for the girl. Again, her mother doesn't miss a beat. Now, Henner, I have two young daughters. This is the segment I was looking forward to the most. I obviously saw the video in advance. Again, I have no idea what you're going to say about it, but I need some tips because this is every parent's absolute worst nightmare. Thank God that parent and that police officer were there.
Starting point is 00:41:21 What can we take away from this video? Yeah, thanks, Dan. Love to break it down for us. So here's the deal, you guys. The Gracie Combatives program, our general self-defense program, many of the other techniques we saw are just from a generic self-defense for any man, any woman just wants to, if someone's attacking you, protect yourself. That's our core beginner co-ed self-defense program, Gracie Combatives. Anyone can learn about it at gracieuniversity.com. The techniques that we're going to need for this incident right here are part of our women's self-defense program called Women Empowered.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Now, if anyone out there is interested in their wife, daughter, sister, mom, grandma, anyone learning self-defense, females learning self-defense, women empowered is the way to go. And this particular technique, Dan, we call the drag defense. Right. So you're being dragged against your will on the floor in a direction you don't want to go. And let me just reenact it because it's a little fuzzy, but I want to show you what actually happened. Cole will follow us this way and check this out. He's holding my wrist right here. Look. And as he's dragging me, freeze. The girl was trying to sit up
Starting point is 00:42:26 and do this and every time she sat up pull me again she got pulled back down sit up pulled back down so you can see how mathematically i can't sit up because every time i do i'm losing my balance in the rear here so when we teach drag defenses in the women in power program the first thing we teach dan is you have to get your legs in the fight. So if I'm down and Cameron is pulling right here, watch what I'm going to do. Connect, look, pivot, and wedge. Now I can free my wrist and boom, kick one, kick two. I can scoot away, use my legs, and then eventually get back to my feet. So the key here is how I got my legs in the fight. Let me show how I did that. So we'll just kind of pause frame right here. Freeze. Step one, hook your own forearm with your other hand. I hook my forearm. Step two, take this leg over here and reach for Cameron's
Starting point is 00:43:14 arm. I come up, I connect and I pivot. Right away, my legs are now in the fight and Cameron's ability to pull me is greatly reduced. Not to mention I can easily free my wrists. So that's very easy to grab my own hand and pry my hand right out. From here now, what do we have, Dan? This is called the guard. And the guard is one of the favorite and secret weapons of Jiu-Jitsu because from here, my legs prevent him from reaching my face. So he's out of range. If I need to, I can pull him in and I can even wrap him up and like use my guard. There are things I can do. I can do arm bars. I can do triangles triangles i can submit him from the bottom of the fight from the bottom because of my legs all because i got my legs in the fight so if cameron stands back up and we land in this position here one option is to pull him in the other option is to kick boom up kick axe kick boom to the body to the knee and
Starting point is 00:44:00 then force the separation so i can get up and get back to my feet. Or what might also happen is after we spin around, so I'm here, I put my hand here. Now, side note, if you don't feel like you have the mobility to bring this leg and touch the forearm right here, if you don't feel like you have this ability, right, when you practice it at home right now, ladies and gentlemen, no problem. Just do it this way. Look, just literally take your feet and run them on the mat and pivot around and now do the exact same thing. Now, what if I do this and Cameron grabs my ankles and he starts pulling me away and drag now, look, look, take them, take them, take them away, take them away and you're gone. So it could go, it's possible, Dan, that it goes from a wrist drag into an ankle drag midway through the attack.
Starting point is 00:44:44 from a wrist drag into an ankle drag midway through the attack. That's not impossible, right? It's plausible. So once we pivot around, after we make our turn, if he grabs both ankles, freeze right here. Here's how we do it. Because most people, when they get their ankles grabbed, they'll just do this. They'll just kick. And the problem is, Cameron, keep going. You're just going to keep taking me.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I'm not going to get out of that. Now watch this. Hold tight, Cameron. Check this out, you guys. Hold tighter, tighter, tighter. Keep it here. Keep with it. Look. I'm out. And now, boom, one, two, three, four. Hey, let's go. He doesn't want anything more to do with that. So one more time. So when we talk about
Starting point is 00:45:13 wrist drags, wrist drags, the technique is to pivot around and get our feet in the fight. When we talk about ankle drags, Dan, the key is to create tension. So one foot is going to push, one foot is going to pull. So I'm stretching, I'm pulling. And now with that stretch, look what I do. I kick north, pop with that leg. So Cameron can't hold it. And now I can up kick, boom, axe kick, boom, through the body, to the knee and create further separation. So the point is, get your legs in the fight. And once your legs are in the fight, use them. If the person starts dragging by your ankles, create tension, push and pull, kick one leg out to the north because the attacker can't hold it with all that tension. If you're going to cut a rope, what's the first thing you do? Pull it tight. And then once you pull it tight, then what? You slice and it pops. Pull it tight. Then what? You slice and it pops. Amazing. I've never thought that deeply about being dragged out. I really, I was curious. I mean, I, you know, practiced for 15 years. I
Starting point is 00:46:12 never thought of that. That is really incredible. Henrik, one last point on this, and then it's Black Friday and I want people to find out how they can get in touch with Gracie University, learn more. This is just the beginning. But just I know you did a segment with me on Fox once. You need to stay out of that individual's car no matter what. You cannot get if they're dragging you into a car. Ladies and gentlemen, it is legitimately life or death. You need to stay out of that car no matter what. In fact, Dan, what I would even say to that is when we bring in weapons to the equation, this is how serious not getting in the car is. When we talk about weapon defenses, which we do address in our Women Empowered program,
Starting point is 00:46:57 let's say someone has a knife in your neck, right, or a gun pointed at your back and says, get in the car and I won't kill you. Analyze that for a second. They have a knife. You're in the parking garage. Get in the car and I won't kill you. Simple logic says, I want to live, so I should cooperate because they have a weapon and I don't want to die. That's simple logic. The problem with that logic is that it presumes integrity on behalf of the attacker. Let's think about this for a second. And if this man had integrity or woman had integrity, what's the probability that they would be holding a gun or a knife at your neck, forcing you into a car against your will? knife at your neck, forcing you into a car against your will. So this idea of if I listen to him, maybe he won't hurt me. That's the problem is that you can't even take that for being truthful. So our advice by and large, and this comes at the recommendation of law enforcement professionals
Starting point is 00:48:00 who statistically have identified that once you leave the primary crime scene, chances of recovery drop dramatically, right? The chance of survival, once you leave the primary point of contact, drops dramatically. If you get in the car, if you get into the house, if you get into the, whatever the situation is, once you're in isolation and you're no longer in public view where someone could potentially render aid or assistance in that situation, chance of recovery goes down dramatically. So for us, the blanket advice we give here, Dan, is rule number one, don't go. No, we just don't go. So our point, our logic is, if you're willing to hurt me in a parking lot when I resist getting into the car, then you're almost certainly willing to hurt me in isolation when no one's there to help me.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah. Great point. I'm so glad you said that. of those kids, daughters, sons, anybody, whoever has to deal with a situation like this, you might tell yourself, oh, he has a gun to my neck or a knife to my neck and I'm going to cooperate. But my mindset is one of resistance. My mindset is one of don't go. So you might get into the car that maybe it's your car, maybe your car. He's telling you, forcing you into your own vehicle. So you get into your car, but you know your vehicle and you know that at the first turn, you're going to open the door because you know the locks and you're going to jump right out. So even that is strategically not going. So that's just still the same mindset. It's just a different strategy of execution. Or you might say, no, I'm going to die before I get into this car right now. No matter what, I'm going to fight for my life right here, right now. And if
Starting point is 00:49:42 I get hurt, hopefully someone's here to help. That's one option. The other option is more strategically. I'm going to get in, but the second he stops at a stop sign or a red light, I'm going to jump out of this car, roll down the window. I'm going to roll out into the street and survive the way I have to survive. So either one of those is acceptable, but the mindset has to be, do not go to your point. And what we covered in that Fox segment so long ago, you cannot get taken from the primary crime scene. Anything you do is worth it. And what I would say about children is this, Dan, you parents have to give your children permission
Starting point is 00:50:11 to break all the rules when it comes to survival. Kids are taught to be polite. Kids are taught not to stir up a scene. Kids are taught not to yell back, not to disrespect, not to anything. And then when it comes in a survival situation and they clam up and they do nothing, people wonder why. You want to tell your kids repeatedly and like every three to six months, you want to have these talks to remind them that, listen, the world's a safe place, but there are some bad people in a safe place. And if one of those bad people gets a hold of you, we want you to know that nothing you do is wrong. Anything to hurt them and anything to stay safe and to survive that situation, we support you, we love you,
Starting point is 00:50:54 and all we want is for you to be safe. If your kid doesn't hear you say that, don't expect them to know that just because you know it. Yeah, practical advice. Well said, Henner. Henner, I'll turn over the end of the show to you. I know it's Black Friday. How can people get in touch with Gracie University? And I know you've got some other things out there as well you're working on. Sure. Yeah. For any listeners or for viewers who are intrigued by the idea of learning self-defense,
Starting point is 00:51:28 idea of learning self-defense, basic self-defense such that you feel safer in your own skin and you feel capable of intervening in an altercation where someone's life might be at stake and you want to provide assistance, you can do so in a way that is safe for you and safe for the subject that you're controlling. You can learn all of our programs at GracieUniversity.com. This is our interactive online learning center where people are learning Jiu-Jitsu, over 400,000 members learning from home, in their garage, in their living room, in a bedroom,
Starting point is 00:51:57 anywhere there's an open floor space with a little bit of padding on it, a little bit of carpet, a little bit of something, you can learn Jiu-Jitsu. And the best part is, Dan, that these techniques that you're learning on your own from home, you can every so often during certain milestones, you can send in videos demonstrating the skills that you're learning so that we can give you feedback on the material that you've learned thus far.
Starting point is 00:52:17 So it really is a full circle communication. You're not just learning from us. You're actually learning with us. And we're providing time code specific feedback on your performance every step of the way. And we have students learning from their homes, garages all over the world. We love it. Anyone out there, Gracie, Bullyproof for children. Parents, we teach you how to teach your child in that program. Women Empowered for the women. Amazing for the daughters, sisters, moms, whoever it is.
Starting point is 00:52:42 A little self-defense. It's only 20 techniques for Women Empowered empowered, basics, but every woman should know this. And then Gracie Combatives is our co-ed beginner program that is based on the work we did with military and law enforcement for so many years. Our thought was, how can we teach someone to learn self-defense in the least amount of time? So we created a 36 lesson program called Gracie Combatives, and that also is available on Gracie University. And all of these are on Gracie University. But what's why and all of these are on sale right now because it's Black Friday. It's 25 percent off all of our courses. So anyone who's listening, who's excited to learn self-defense, give the gift of
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Starting point is 00:54:34 That backpack is not coming off my back. So quickflipapparel.com, you guys. We have all kinds of colors. We have rain jackets. We have windbreakers. We have hoodies, pullovers, zip hoodies, anything. And when you're done, look, reach inside, one pull, and your hoodie is back just in time for the cold, you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:49 This Gracie one is a special one we made for Gracie. But the quickflipapparel.com, there is no Gracie branding on them. They're all just quickflip hoodies. And you guys can get hooked up there as well. Talk to me, Dan. Was this the thing you, was this the item on Shark Tank you did? That's exactly right. This was on Shark Tank. That was crazy, Dan. It blew up. We went on Shark Tank you did? That's exactly right. This was on Shark Tank.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That was crazy, Dan. It blew up. We went on Shark Tank in 2018. It was amazing for our business. And the crazy part that happened there, Dan, is originally we were just selling quick flips, direct-to-consumer blank quick flips of different garment types. And then corporations started reaching out. All kinds of big movie studios, Warner Brothers, Intel, Google, Amazon, Samsung, you name it, Universal Studios, Disneyland. A lot of corporations wanted custom quick flips for their organizations.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And we would put their logos and their brands on them. So if there's anyone out there, any organization, team, sport, school that wants custom quick flips like we've done here for my other business for Gracie. So Quick Flip made these for Gracie custom so that we can sell these to our Gracie customers. So anyone out there who wants to do custom QuickFlips, we can do that as well. You did it for us on the Fox show. You did it for us.
Starting point is 00:55:54 We got the unfiltered. I did it for the unfiltered truth. Let me spell out the website for our audio audience. It's quick. Q U I K Q U I K flip. F L I P apparel. A, quickflipapparel.com. Check it out. They are super cool. He sent me one for my Fox show. I still have it. It's awesome. Henner, that was really an honor. I really appreciate you coming out. I see you got,
Starting point is 00:56:23 this I saw on Instagram. Did you have this on Instagram the other day? Only because it's Black Friday, Dan. I have to do this one because I'm telling you right now, this thing is going crazy. How many times have you flown, unless you're flying private jet flatbed, let's be honest, we're all working on it, right? We're all working on our private jets. But until we get there, what are we doing? We're packed in the back of the airplane like sardines. You have your little neck pillow with your button. You put this on and be honest, Dan, what happens when you pass out? You break your neck.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Bobblehead. It's called bobblehead syndrome or BS. This happens to every traveler everywhere in the world all the time. And I'm telling you, Dan, I was traveling the world teaching law enforcement. traveler everywhere in the world all the time. And I'm telling you, Dan, I was traveling the world teaching law enforcement, like you said, Secret Service, local, state, federal, military, traveling so many weeks out of the month that I got tired of bobblehead because if I could arrive rested on the flight, everything changed. And what's so wild is all the pillows on the market suck. We got that one. We got this weird toilet bowl looking one that wraps around and chokes
Starting point is 00:57:24 you basically. It's a joke. Look at this. This is the solution in America, Dan. You're supposed to hug this. It's not a cat carrier. What is that? It looks like a Star Wars droid inside the hole. Looks like R2-D2. Completely falls apart. It's an absolute joke. So Dan, I applied my jujitsu skills, my jujitsu DNA. I've seen this. And I jujitsu'd the travel pillow industry with a product called the sleeper hold pun, very much intended sleeper hold.com you guys. So you take on this nifty little bag, look, nifty little bag. You take out the strap, check this out. It comes with a simple little strap. Let me show you how this works. You're not going to believe this. You guys. Look right here. Come
Starting point is 00:58:06 in close, Cole, so they can see. So it's a simple little strap. There's a little top label on it right here. You don't need to see that. Look, this goes behind the headrest. And these adjustable headrests come standard on almost all long-haul flights these days. So when you're going to fly a flight that matters, a longer flight, you're going to want to sleep. Look at this. You take it here. You loop it around. It takes two seconds. You buckle this guy in, and we are in. That lives there for the remainder of the flight. So this is called our anchor point. You don't have to touch that anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Now, check this out, you guys. I go back into my nifty little bag, and I reach in, and I grab the face mask. Now, I'm going to go closer so you guys can see some textures here and close your eye with me. Look at the texture. Look at the suede. It's a padded, very soft right here with velcro sides and metal hooks now watch this yeah i'm gonna bring you right back look look look you take this nifty little eye mask and you basically hook it on to this mask the hook goes right on to the strap
Starting point is 00:58:58 that's already there one and two look these velcro straps are fully adjustable for different head sizes once you hook on your mask look it's just anchored onto that. And this sits to the rear and it lives right here. Now, last but not least, look at this. You go inside and you grab this beautiful contoured microbead neck pillow and you sit down. Check it out. You're not going to believe this, Dan. This guy goes in.
Starting point is 00:59:22 You adjust it perfectly into position. I'm going to reach up, look up, and Dan, adjust for your head sight perfectly. Dan, bobblehead is impossible. So right now, I'm completely relaxing my cervical muscles, and there's no head bobbing. It's impossible. I'm just perfectly nested in here for the best seated sleep of my life. If I want to watch a movie, I just lift up this right here. Dan, I have perfect head support while I watch the movie. And the crazy part is the only thing worse than falling asleep on a plane
Starting point is 00:59:55 is falling asleep. But then to be woken up while you're sleeping, let's say you have a, you finally passed out and the lady comes by and she starts shaking you. Right. And she's like, wake up. It's mealtime. And all you're thinking is like, yo, I don't need mealtime right now. I need to sleep. You shouldn't awaken me up. Cool. Come on closer. Check this out. Coming closer. Show them, show them, show them. Do not disturb Dan. You put this right here on the mask. Look at this. This goes on the mask right here. So now when I pull down, I got my do not disturb, Dan. No one's going to wake me up. I sleep for five hours at a time when I fly across the country.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And then, of course, if you are hungry. Wake for food. This may be better than the jujitsu demonstration. I love to send you one. I'm going to send you one. But listen to me for the rest of America, sleeperhold.com. It's unbelievable how this is changing in-flight sleep. People, Dan, people are going to our website, ordering the pillow and then leaving reviews saying that they've never slept on a plane. And she's a travel agent. She's been doing this for 25 years. She's never slept on a plane. And she's a travel agent. She's been doing this for 25 years.
Starting point is 01:01:05 She's never slept on a plane. She orders the sleeper hold and now she's sleeping for three to five hours at a time on any long haul flight. Lifesaver is the number one gift this holiday season. And it's only available at sleeperhold.com. Please wake me up when you guys are done. Guy wants one too, Henner. Can you send to Guy? My producer wants one. He sleeps on planes all the time, flying back and forth with his dungeons and dragons, flesh and blood.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm sending two to the Dan Bongino show. Everybody else go to sleeperhole.com right now. They're up to 50% off for black Friday, cyber Monday. So if you miss this sale, all I'm going to say is you slept when you shouldn't have. Henner, you're the best. Thank you, brother. Can we can we do this again sometimes i'm sure we're gonna get an amazing feedback we'd really appreciate it we love you man that was so great if your audience liked the breakdown of the self-defense segments there's no shortage thousands of self-defense
Starting point is 01:02:00 situations that have yet to be broken down on the dan bongino show and coming back at any time would be my pleasure you're the best thank, my friend and everyone else. We so deeply appreciate you tuning in. I really hope you learn some, uh, life-saving advice from this. Go check out Gracie university. And, uh, the great part about watching this on rumble is you can go back and rewind it. And, uh, as always make sure you're medically prepared for this stuff. Don't get anybody hurt. Uh, don't get ahead of yourself there, but, medically prepared for this stuff. Don't get anybody hurt. Don't get ahead of yourself there, but check this stuff out. We want to do this. We'll be doing a lot more of it. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. I will see you back on the podcast on Monday. You just heard the Dan Bongino show.

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