The Dan Bongino Show - Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Scott Presler, Julie Kelly and Producer Jim Verdi 06/23/24
Episode Date: June 23, 2024First up is Mike Benz who exposed the censorship industrial complex being used to essentially steal elections. Next, We talked with Scott Presler who is doing amazing work registering voters. Then, we... talked with Julie Kelly about her breaking story about Gen. Mark Milley and his role in the lack of protection of the Capitol on January 6th. Finally, we talked with Producer Jim and his best-selling book, The Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide. If you’re not a P1 you can be one. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is going to be one of the best interview shows we've done in a long time.
First up, one of my personal favorite guests,
producer Jim knows too. We both love him. Mike Benz. Nobody knows the deep state better than this guy. Every time he comes on, I turn over the show to him. You know why? People come back to me
later and go, we want more because he's so good. He's so good. I'm going to play this for you in
a weekend show and you're going to love it even more, even if you're hearing it the second time,
because there's so much information in here going to play this for you in a weekend show, and you're going to love it even more, even if you're hearing it the second time, because there's so much information in here.
Listen to this amazing interview.
One of my favorite guests.
There's simply no one better at reporting on the deep state,
but uncovering the mechanics of it.
It's easy to talk about the deep state,
but then we tend to get lost in all these labels,
but not actually what they do.
That's the important part
you can follow him he's on x at at mike ben's b-e-n-z cyber at mike ben cyber you can also
subscribe for his content there as well it's uh fantastic we use it all the time tried to get him
last week but he wasn't available we got him today we're happy to have him mike ben's welcome back to
the show dan great to chat as always always your your
content's just superb i used it on friday you had put out a video mike it's just fantastic uh it's
about another 30 minutes or so and you really undressed the whole cia doj ngo university
censorship complex in a way so digestible.
I encourage everyone to go to X and watch the entire thing.
It's well worth your time.
We played some cuts of it.
But Mike, I'm really worried.
We got an election coming up, obviously.
And my question to you, because this is your area of expertise.
They did a really good job at the thievery in the 2020 election,
hiding information about mail-in ballots, the Hunter Biden laptop.
Do you think with X and Elon and Rumble and these other platforms, True Social,
is it going to be as effective this time? I know it's a problem, the censorship complex,
I get it, but do you see it as big of a problem as it was in 2020 with the new change to free
speech in a lot of these platforms?
The change to free speech is absolutely massive. A big part of their plan involves controlling perceptions of legitimacy. This is a State Department priority whenever we do color
revolution work, whenever we do counterinsurgency work, controlling the public perception of the legitimacy of an election
is a way to ensure insurgents can seize power because you can do, if the public perceives that
the election was illegitimate, then extraordinary means of seizing power from the illegitimate
government are legitimized because the government wasn't really legitimate. You could do the coup
under the guise of a counter
coup, because you're not really couping a legitimately elected government, you are stopping
the coup of a illegitimate government. And this was a huge part of how they framed the 2020
censorship operations, and how they framed the 2020 legal operations that were being done in the background by Norm Eisen and co.
And so it is actually a very potent weapon in our arsenal to be able to open our mouths this time.
And the fact is, is they still have several tricks up their sleeve.
The main one is as a dual threat from the state secretaries of state at the state level who are still partnered with DHS and are
still going to be working with particularly the non-X platforms like YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,
TikTok, et cetera, to be able to, you know, to be able to do the same sort of censorship work
they were doing before. And the main threat to X right now for the election cycle is that at some point before November, the disinformation regulations from the EU Digital Services Act, which is essentially the NATO censorship law, which is effectively the State Department censorship law, is going to boomerang back on X and require them to censor election misinformation.
censor election misinformation. Now, they've not yet finalized the rules on what election misinformation means in that context. My fear is we have a brand new threat this time.
We have unsolved issues around the voting machines and, you know, and the welfare associated with
that. Anyone who talked about the issues around Dominion, for example, last election season had their faces sued off, like Fox News and such.
And that is an excellent way to be able to cover up an operation is to basically use a hometown court, a hometown judge, to seal the issue shut by economically terrifying anyone who questions it.
Meanwhile, last week in Puerto Rico, it was reported that even the Associated Press has covered this, that Dominion basically flipped the election results with false counting of their electronic voting machines, 130. In Brazil, the very country that has effectively terrorized Elon Musk, effectively banning the platform,
forcing people to go China-style and use a VPN to access the X platform there,
they've got a criminal probe into Elon Musk simply for allowing free speech in the country.
Well, guess what happened in Brazil's 2022 election? Not only do you have the Financial Times report that the CIA, the DOD,
and the State Department all simultaneously descended on that election to so-called fortify it, just like what happened here in the U.S., but that the State Department bent over backwards
in order to get Brazil to use electronic voting machines. This is a very strange story, and you
can look it up in the Financial Times. But the State Department, there were not enough electronic voting machines in Brazil. And this
is in 2022, way post-COVID. In October 2022, they could not, so they were going to hand count
ballots as always. But the State Department stepped in, basically told the Brazilian government that
they should be using these electronic voting machines and then they did they ran special orders using back channels to Taiwan to get Taiwan semiconductor
to basically provide the parts for this you know three or four times more electronic voting
machines than Brazil had ever used and it was a razor-tight election that was basically 50.1 to 49.9
in order to have that election go the way that it did
and install the censorship and totalitarian regime
they're now under in Brazil.
So we've unsolved issues from that,
but then we have a whole new threat
related to the illegal immigrant situation
and the state department funded NGOs
that are, it's actually on the top of my feed right now, which is that these immigrants don't even need to vote on election day. They
can simply fill out a ballot and the same NGOs who USAID and the state department are, are bringing
in or bringing into the country can simply harvest those ballots that could swing the election.
Even if, you know, and that's something I'm not sure that the GOP is, is currently taking sufficient action to stop. Mike, can I address that with you? Cause that, that was the election, even if, you know, and that's something I'm not sure that the GOP is currently
taking sufficient action to stop.
Mike, can I address that with you?
Because that was the first, the opening hour of my show and my podcast today was specifically
on this, because this is the nexus of two of the big things you focus on.
By the way, we're talking to Mike Benz.
He is on X at at Mike Benz, B-E-N-Z, cyber.
Strongly, strongly recommend you follow
and subscribe to his content.
You discuss often information warfare,
and you also discuss manipulation of election results,
soft coups, hard coups.
This replacement theory, demographic destiny,
this is the intersection of both of them.
The liberals are engaged in an
information warfare regime to get you to stop talking about the obvious by throwing out the
racist red harry oh look it's right don't you dare mention that meanwhile all i do mike is play
literal cuts of leftists talking endlessly about demographic destiny this is the same thing as the
dominion lawsuit and this other stuff it's a way to kind of in advance write the
forward to the book so that they can scare people from discussing voter fraud and efforts to use
illegal immigrants to manipulate election results by just claiming racist or filing some lawsuit
or trying to tar you i got about four or five minutes left but you can take it and talk about
that yeah well one of the things that's important to keep in mind is that the Dominion issue was
the most censored keyword in all of DHS's censorship operation last election cycle.
So DHS, which was basically an outgrowth of this Pentagon State Department intelligence
world that all hated Trump, and they parked it in DHS to turn it into essentially a
domestic CIA. They said they wanted the CIA to do it, but it's a foreign jurisdiction. They wanted
the FBI to do it, but unfortunately, tweets are not a First Amendment violation. The FBI,
you know, the FBI is only licensed to be able to serve as the intelligence arm of the Justice
Department, and if you tweet about Dominion or election integrity issues, it's not technically
a Justice Department infraction. So they parked it the only other, you know, we have 17 intelligence agencies,
only two of them are domestic. One of them is the FBI, the other is DHS. So in 2020,
they set up this whole election censorship operation out of DHS to get the power of the CIA
to be able to manipulate media and censor editorial desks abroad with the domestic jurisdiction of the FBI
by parking it at DHS because it's free from the Justice Department constraint. Now, they had 22
million tweets in their own network that they categorized as comprising misinformation narratives.
So, for example, Stop the Steal had 2.2 million tweets tweets associated with it so they got all the facebook groups that
were in and all the viral tweets they got those all either algorithmically throttled or they got
all the accounts suspended who talked about that but the number one of all the narratives was
dominion voting systems it was at seven million seven million tweets were categorized as
misinformation about that and that that that virality circuit
breaker is no longer applied this time but what i'll say about about the illegal immigrant situation
is we're at a political impasse because half of the republican party is on the side of open borders
if you remember bernie sanders actually had a quote in 2015 when he was running for office and
he was asked about open borders and he said open borders that's a right-wing policy. That's a Koch brothers proposal
because the chamber of commerce companies benefit from having a flood of cheap labor in the country
that it breaks up unions. It crams down worker wages. And so you have this issue where a lot of
the Republican power base were these blue-chip corporations because they used to love Republicans because they were free enterprise, they were low taxes, but they were also globalist under the Bushes, under the Reagans, under the Eisenhowers. turned the Republican Party into a sort of half nationalist populist faction.
These these blue chip corporations are now siding with the Democrats on the open borders issue in Texas.
This is one of the issues with with why we can't get reform in Texas.
The Republican State Assembly impeached Ken Paxton, the hardest the hardest state AG in the game right now.
And so you have a military interest in open borders because they're because there's a bill in place to try to legalize, provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal
immigrants who join the military at a time when there's a big recruiting shortfall. So you have
a military interest in open borders. You have a Democrat interest in open borders politically,
but you have a Republican interest in open borders commercially. And this really now
comes down to the heart and soul of,
are we a country or are we an economic zone? Yeah. Mike, listen, I think that's been the
profound change in the Republican or conservative shift that we can thank Donald Trump for. I think
first, it's been his recruitment of traditionally non-Republican voter demographics like Black and
Hispanic voters. But I think secondly, it's been to open the eyes
that there is a downside to illegal immigration.
That if you just use it as a spreadsheet,
oh, look, we can get cheap labor and other things,
that there's clearly going to be a consequence.
Mike, I only got two minutes left,
but last point, two minutes.
Do you really believe that given X and like i said rumble and truth do you believe
that we can have a free and fair and honest election with the massive amount of censorship
you and i both know is coming because we may have x and rumble but we sure as hell don't have youtube
and facebook are enough voters going to see the information to make an informed decision
i think they're starting to because we're starting to see it from so many different angles. I mean, the fact is there's nobody deeper in the
tech world than the Silicon Valley folks. And they just had a sold out fundraiser where people were
coming out of the woodwork. David Sachs and Chamath, you know, basically, you know, raised,
I think, $12 million in a single weekend with a bunch of Silicon Valley tech heads. And a lot of these folks are involved in the information distribution ecosystem.
The fact is, is Elon just got approved his $54 billion compensation package again.
That is all monies that can help with legal funds, as he's been doing to support people
who've been censored on X.
That is all sort of capital that can be put to use for freedom
as he applied $44 billion to purchase Twitter in the first place.
The question is, assuming the free speech issue is significantly better than 2020,
even though it will be not as good as it was in 2016,
is there enough infrastructure in place
to be able to stop these kind of USAID pass-through,
which in USAID is effectively a CIA cutout.
You have our State Department in USAID,
our foreign policy establishment,
hates Trump's anti-globalist foreign policy,
and they're piling in the illegal immigrants
to be able to use those same NGOs to harvest those ballots.
Right now, as I see it, the top concern is what is being done to stop that specific angle of attack,
because most of these folks aren't fluent in English, let alone having a knowledge base of who to vote for,
other than the president who illegally let them in. This is something, this is a Tammany Hall, you know,
a New York City scandal from the 1800s on steroids this time.
Mike, I got to run. Unfortunately,
I don't want the computer to cut us off and I want to make sure I get another
promo in for your content. Mike Benz,
he's on Twitter at Mike Benz, B-E-N-Z, cyber.
As you can tell, one of the best commentators.
Mike, you're just invaluable to the show.
We so appreciate your time and you're exposing the deep state.
I wish we had more time, but we'll definitely have you back.
You're welcome anytime.
Thanks for your time.
All right.
Thanks for your leadership, Dan.
Appreciate it.
You got it, buddy.
Mike Benz, man, I told you.
There's no one better.
All you got to do.
The great thing about Mike Benz, Jim, is all you got to do is ask him a question
and he explains, you ask him about chapter one, he explains the whole book.
Boom.
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We talked to one of the best organizers on the ground in the country. If you don't know this guy's name, you should. His name is Scott Pressler. He's doing amazing work organizing voters, getting voters out.
He's a very inspirational guy, too.
Give this a listen.
You know, folks, when you're alive as long as I've been,
closing in on my 50th year on this rock we call Earth, right?
You know, I hate simple categories,
but one of the best ways to kind of break down people into groups is you get a lot of talkers and a lot of doers.
Reminds me of the old, you know, Mike Tyson line.
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face, right?
You got to do something about it.
This guy's a doer in every sense of the word.
Scott Pressler, he is out there organizing organizing voters registering people to vote uh a guy who
doesn't talk but gets it done scott welcome to the show it's an honor to have you back
hey dan thank you so much oh yeah listen you're welcome so one of the areas nobody knows the
ground game better than you no one they may know it as well but not better because you're actually
out there what's your priority right now i've noticed you're spending a lot of time in Pennsylvania.
I took a few notes on Pennsylvania during the break. Latest average of polls shows Donald
Trump up between two and three points, which would be a major shift and would probably seal
the election for him. What's your feel on Pennsylvania having pressed the flesh
with a lot of people and registered some voters? Give us some trends over there.
Thank you. Let's talk data. Two years ago in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania,
the Democrats had an advantage of 595,000 more registered Ds than ours. Today, that gap has been narrowed to 379,000 more D's than
ours, showing that in just two years time, under 200,000, we have narrowed the gap, the deficit.
I mean, Pennsylvania is trending to the right like a speeding bullet. And I'm talking to
you right now, Dan Bongino from Bucks County, Pennsylvania. Now let's talk that county real
quick. This is a county outside of Philadelphia, suburban, voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016,
voted for Joe Biden in 2020. And four years ago in June 2020, there were 15,000 more registered Democrats than
Republicans. And today, Dan, I'm very proud to tell you that we are 720 voters away from flipping
Bucks County to Republican. That is earth shattering. And so the data is speaking volumes
that the wind is at our sails, but it's not just about registering voters, which is my priority
from now until October 21st. But ultimately, we got to get those people to vote, whether it's on
November 5th, whether it's early in person or whether it's by mail, we have to lock in every single gosh darn vote.
Scott, I don't want to miss this opportunity. Folks, Scott needs help.
So I just want you to please promote what you're doing, because this is really I hate the word literally, but in this case, it matters.
This is literally changing lives and elections. Right. If we lose, this country's done.
How can people help you?
Thank you. Well, you hit the nail on the head. Look, Trump's doing well in Arizona, Nevada,
North Carolina, Georgia, the Sun Belt, right? But we're not going to take our feet off the pedal. You hear me loudly and clearly. We win Pennsylvania. Donald Trump wins the White House,
and we secure America's future.
I am one of the only voices focused on Pennsylvania, and I need your financial help.
And I'm not going to spend money on silly television advertisements, nor on brick and mortar.
Any resources that you pump into earlyvoteaction.com, that's earlyvoteaction.com. That's earlyvoteaction.com. Any resources that you very generously support
to my organization, I promise you, will go immediately to hiring boots on the ground,
to making sure that we're at the York State Fair and every farmer's market and every gun show,
and that when the students come back to school on campus that we're at Penn State
University and not only in Center County but also in Dauphin and we'll go to Slippery Rock and we'll
go to Temple like we are this weekend to see our great president at a Trump rally in Philly and
he's not coming Dan to South Philly he's coming to North Philly to Temple University so if you
want to make sure that we have the ground game necessary
to register people, to make sure that they are locking their vote
on Tuesday, November 5th or otherwise,
then please support us financially at earlyvoteaction.com.
Earlyvoteaction.com.
Humbly request you all go visit the site
if you have the ability to help Scott.
And if you doubt anything he's
saying that this is all some nonsense gibberish and he's just making this up go look at his
Twitter's x feed true social go just check it out and you'll see every day numbers updates people
that register in county breakdowns folks this is what changes elections the Democrats have kicked
our asses at this in the past,
and it's time we make up ground.
Scott, a couple questions for you.
Are you seeing, let's just stick with Pennsylvania
as a microcosm of the country, but it's an area, again,
if we win Pennsylvania, there's very little chance Biden wins.
So let's, you know, knock on wood, no red wave talk.
Everybody's got to get out and vote and bring 10 people.
However, are you seeing new voter registrations
for the Republican Party, or are you seeing more people switch?
In other words, already voting, the voting populace switched from Democrat to Republican.
What are you seeing more of?
Well, babe, this is new.
I'm getting people that are 70 years old that have never voted in their entire lives,
and they register to vote with me at the Philly Expo Center or at the Great American Outdoor Show.
And why that's so important is because we have 930,000 hunters in Pennsylvania,
and 30% of those hunters are not registered to vote. That is the election, Dan, right there.
of those hunters are not registered to vote. That is the election, Dan, right there. I'm getting people that are former felons that are convicted to vote for President Trump, as I am. And get this,
not only did I go to the DuPage County Jail, which you can see a video of me courting the inmate vote,
literally reaching across the aisle and talking to people that have suffered at the hands of the criminal injustice system like our president is right now.
But in Pennsylvania, once you are released from jail, you are eligible to vote.
And I am having former felons across the country reach out to me.
Scott, I'm in Missouri. Scott, I'm in Texas. Scott, I'm in Pennsylvania.
How can I help save the country?
And so I've been in this education process as well, bringing a lot of new voters into the system who
weren't even aware that they could vote. But one thing, I know you have other questions, but I must
say this while I have you. I want to make it clear that in North Philly this weekend, so what we're
doing at Early Vote Action is we're sending out text messages to independent and Democrat voices surrounding Temple University where Trump is speaking on Saturday.
And we're sending text messages to these voters saying Trump is coming to your neighborhood.
Come hear him in person.
We are asking for your vote.
We want your vote.
We are courting your vote. And furthermore, we're going to have teams of volunteers, not only on Saturday, but on Friday, the day before, knocking in North Philly.
So people are going to hear about Trump on TV.
They're going to hear about Trump on social media.
They're going to get a text message to their phone, and they're going to get a knock on their door.
And they're going to hear from Republican voices that they probably have not heard in decades.
And the last thing that I must say is I want the black vote.
I am here to court the black vote.
I want to earn the black vote and we are going to leave no stone unturned in
Pennsylvania,
making sure that we are liking Donald Trump and saving our country.
Scott Pressler, man, I tell you, you are a fiery guy.
I love that about you. And you know,
one of the things I really like about you is what you just said.
It is an abomination that we have allowed the Democrat Party that has screwed over the black community so awfully.
I mean, just look at the numbers that we have not.
We've done almost nothing, nothing.
And, folks, in case you're out there
thinking oh well what have you done i ran for office in maryland there's a huge wealthy black
population in maryland i knocked on doors in prince george's county there are pictures of me
still on instagram at lexington market in baltimore the city of baltimore not the county
they're two different places sitting there shaking hands with people who folks i knew were never
going to vote for me but it mattered it's our obligation to the movement to show up
now you're on the ground scott a lot of liberal democrats are still they have blinders on with
the black vote they're saying oh this isn't real these polls showing donald trump with phenomenal
levels of black support no republican in modern history done. They're saying it's all fake.
It's all an illusion.
It's a fake oasis in the desert.
You're actually on the ground, brother.
What are you seeing?
Good.
Let them think it's an illusion.
Let them underestimate us.
Let them on their hands while we go out and court the black vote and the Hispanic vote and the former felon vote and the frat boy vote and the hunter vote and the veteran vote and the youth vote because young people don't want to fight Joe Biden's wars.
And anyone that is 18 to 26, the vote for Joe Biden is a vote to be shipped overseas to fight his wars that we did not have under President Trump.
We did not have Putin invade Ukraine.
We did not have Hamas genocide Israel.
A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for war.
And so I hope that those Democrats still think that we are not a threat,
that the black community and Republicans are not coming together.
I hope that they continue to feel that way while we, this weekend,
are going to make history reaching out and courting the black vote
in a way that has
never been done in north philly at temple university scott uh one more question but
again the website and give out your uh your social media handles as well because your social
media is great i want people to see on social media you're doing you're not talking you have
the results so the website and your social media accounts. So I run my own social media. No one
else does. So when you get a message from me, it's me. You can slide into my DMs in the most
wholesome of manner at Scott Pressler, S-C-O-T-T-P-R-E-S-1-S-L-E-R. You can also follow my
organization at Early Vote Action and see our hundreds of volunteers that are registering
voters and writing postcards and sending text messages and making phone calls. And last, again, I'm saying this humbly to you with five months to
save our country. Please support financially my organization. This is mine, not the GOP,
not the RNC, not anybody else's. EarlyVoteAction.com.
Folks, I don't have this guy on. We don't even do a lot of guests on the show.
I think you know that.
We're going to be having Scott on a lot from now to the election
because I'm just done with talkers, man.
I'm done with it.
Scott, last question.
I'll let you go.
Again, we're focusing on Pennsylvania only because it's such a critical,
critical.
We win Pennsylvania.
There's almost no math for Joe Biden to win,
and it is a microcosm of the whole country.
You got big cities, you got big suburbs.
We have not, we did not do well in 2020
in what they call collar counties and suburbs
that surround big cities.
They collar the big cities.
Biden won Pennsylvania, collar county suburbs
by about 15, 19 points in Pennsylvania.
Polls now are showing him up by only five or six points.
So we're making ground in the sub making
up ground in the suburbs too i got about two minutes left but again you're on the ground in
the pennsylvania collar counties are you seeing that change or it's just some poll anomaly no
we're seeing it and in fact in the last seven days over 1200 democrats switched to republican
across the common of Pennsylvania.
Why is that significant?
The primary was on April 23rd.
There is no reason for people to change their party affiliation.
This is happening anyway.
And it's happening in Montgomery and Chester and Delaware.
300 Democrats in Philadelphia switched from D to R in the last seven days alone.
In Dauphin County and Northampton and Lehigh and Allegheny and Erie and Center,
we are seeing a movement sweeping across the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
And again, we're courting the Jewish vote because the Democrats are embracing Hamas.
We're courting the young vote because we don't want to send young people to war that Joe Biden will do. We're courting the Amish vote because the Democrats
are coming after raw milk and religious freedom. We're courting the former felon vote because we
see the weaponization of our injustice system. We are courting hunters and veterans because if
every gun owner in America voted, we would save our country, we would elect Donald Trump, and we would give him a Congress that he can work with to actually legislate things like no taxes on tips.
And the last thing is I am asking you, every person that you meet from now until Election Day,
I need you to be bold when you're at the gas station, when you're at the supermarket,
when you're at Home Depot or Lowe's or Cabela's or Best Pro Shop or Boot Barn.
when you're at Home Depot or Lowe's or Cabela's or Best Pro Shop or Boot Barn.
I want you to end every single human interaction with asking that person that you spoke to for their consideration to vote for Donald Trump this November.
You leave no stone unturned because we have five months until the most important election of our lives.
And I need you to act like it, not just with our words and our policies,
but you use your actions to register voters, to talk to people and do everything you
can to get out the vote on Tuesday, November 5th for Donald Trump and our entire Republican ticket.
Man, brother, I got to tell you, it's not often I'm overwhelmed by an interview. Believe me,
I don't even do a lot of guests, but I like that so much. We're going to put that on the weekend podcast show as well next week.
Early Vote Action.
Thank you.
Give me the website one last time.
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Thank you.
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Amen.
We will 100% be having you back.
You're doing God's work out there.
God bless you, my brother.
And we will be booking you many times before the election.
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We appreciate it.
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We talked with the best journalists in the business.
Yes, there are actual journalists left.
Julie Kelly about her breaking story about General Mark Millian
and his role in the lack of protection of the
Capitol on January 6th. If you haven't heard this,
this one's an eye-opener.
Take a listen.
Rocketing around social media was
an article by the great Julie
Kelly, who is with us now. Julie,
thanks for spending some time with us again today. We
really appreciate it. Hey, Dan, thanks
for having me on. And actually, it is
my researcher, Haley McClain,
who put that article together and I posted it on my sub stack. So, um, it's amazing.
Researcher, right. Isn't it? Yeah. I read the piece and folks, this thing went nuclear this
weekend. I, I, I was alone this weekend, so I had some time and I'm reading it and I'm thinking,
how are we, how is it that we're
just talking about this now?
So correct me if I'm wrong, Julie, but the gist of the piece is basically a simple question.
What the hell was Mark Milley doing on January 6th?
They claim it was an insurrection, Pearl Harbor, the civil war, and this high ranking military
official who's Trump's supposed right hand military is nowhere to be found.
What is going on? The piece is just damning. It is. And even more disconcerting and I think
really alarming and hopefully House Republicans or if Donald Trump wins, when he wins, we'll look
into this as well, is what he was doing ahead of time. Why was he talking to Susan Rice? Why was he in communication constantly with Chuck
Schumer and Nancy Pelosi? You know this, Dan. It is against the law for the U.S. military to be
involved in domestic law enforcement. This is a pure violation of what's called posse comatitis.
You know, the military, except in a few instances,
the National Guard, cannot be involved in domestic law enforcement.
And he has admitted all over the place in his book,
in his January 6th, his interview with the January 6th Select Committee,
in other interviews, that he was flagrantly violating this.
At one point in his transcript with the J6 committee,
Dan, he admits that he was surveilling
the Proud Boys.
What is the chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff doing
monitoring
Enrique Tarrio or any of the
Proud Boys? So what he did
was clearly illegal, but the question is,
what was he doing behind the scenes
to create or foment
the situation that unfolded on january 6th
we're talking to julie kelly follow her julie underscore kelly too on uh x she's on true social
as well julie i got a really really nasty pit in my stomach, and it's not from eating
bad salmon over this. This January 6th story, which the left's narrative, it was an insurrection,
Trump wanted to take down the government, is at this point clearly nonsense. We can acknowledge
January 6th, we wish things would have went better. But the left's story at this point
is so far out in left field that no sane person would believe
it. I'm just going to throw a few things at
you. So what you just said about
Mark Milley and the National Guard is
accurate. Why is no, that's
what you just described sounds like a
coup. It sounds like
the commander in chief's lead
military liaison
was either completely
absent and deficient in his duties when it came to
activating the National Guard or was complicit in some kind of plot to not activate the National
Guard. I don't know which one of those stories is more disturbing. Combine that with the fact
that we still don't know who the alleged pipe bomber was, the January 6th Secret Service text
disappearing, the fact that Cassidy Hutchinson's story the January 6th Secret Service text disappearing, the fact
that Cassidy Hutchinson's story about Trump attacking the Secret Service driver, the driver
debunked it immediately and they hid that.
And I'm starting to think that this January 6th story, that there's something going on,
like something really, really bad going on here, that if Trump gets elected, they're
really afraid we're going to find out.
That's exactly it, Dan. And this is why, obviously, I've been reporting this since the beginning.
And furthermore, Dan, we are still awaiting a Department of Justice inspector general
report that is now long delayed that will give us more insight into the FBI's role,
the number of, not maybe a number, but at least some sort of
summary or some sort of grasp at how many FBI confidential human sources or informants were
involved before and on January 6th. We already know that they had informants embedded in the
Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters. And we already know that there were informants on the ground.
And some of them, as I have reported, were involved in criminal behavior on January 6th.
So there's still a lot more that's unraveling.
But back to Mark Milley.
Also, why was he on calls with the DOJ, with the DOD, with D.C. law enforcement officials. Why was he involved in
those calls leading up to January 6th? Again, this is not something that the top military officer in
the country should be doing and doing it all behind Donald Trump's back. As we know, also,
of course, as you know, Mark Milley is a sworn enemy of Donald Trump.
Oh, he's been open about that. That's not hidden. He's been open about that.
But and for Mark Milley and Ryan McCarthy, who is the army secretary, to be in cahoots before January 6th,
to draft this memo, this unprecedented memo that basically stripped William Walker,
who was the general in charge of the D.C.
National Guard at the time, stripped him really of authority to deploy both his troops and this
quick reaction force. He has testified that that's never happened before. No one could reach Ryan
McCarthy on January 6th, except the media, except Nancy Pelosi. Why was Ryan McCarthy MIA as the National Guard,
D.C. National Guard is trying to reach him,
but he's at D.C. Metro Police Department
preparing to do a press conference
with D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser?
Why was he not reachable until after five o'clock
to give the final authorization to deploy those troops?
I talked to a D.C. National Guardsman. He said they were at the armory at 6 a.m. on January 6th.
They were waiting to be told to go to the Capitol.
And they were not authorized to go until after five o'clock.
Julie, none of this makes sense. mean these stories cannot correspond okay they don't marry
up you can't say on one hand the Democrats that is in the media that this was the most destructive
insurrection since the civil war and then not answer basic questions like well who's the pipe
bomber have you done any investigation on it oh we, we don't know. Who tried to kill or assassinate Kamala Harris?
And then you got this other issue now about Mark Milley
in this piece on your sub stack, right?
Why would they change the National Guard deployment logistics
at the last minute?
In other words, taking out the lead official's ability
to deploy them, leaving it with the Army Secretary McCarthy
and essentially Milley as Trump's right-hand guy
and then McCarthy's MIA.
That's what I don't understand.
And I have a theory.
I want to just, I was thinking of this
while I was doing my podcast.
Is it possible they stripped the National Guard
of the executive's ability to deploy the National Guard there, thinking Donald Trump was going to engage in some illegal usurpation of power?
And then all of a sudden, January 6th happens, something gets out of control and they realize, oh, my gosh, we screwed this whole thing up.
But, hey, look, now we're in charge.
Maybe we just let this thing
kind of stew a little bit. I mean, there's no other reasonable, rational explanation
because they knew the political fallout would benefit them and hurt Donald Trump.
That's exactly right. And I think that that is one way to look at it. Plus, we also know, Dan,
in addition to this, now we know Capitol Police had intelligence. The FBI had intelligence.
There was going to be problems.
DOJ had intelligence.
Capitol Police had intelligence about this.
You have all of these law enforcement entities, D.C. Metro, who said that they had intelligence that there might be some sort of violence.
They were constantly in communication.
constantly in communication.
Days before, you had the DOJ deploy shoot-to-kill commandos at Quantico
the weekend before January 6th.
What were they doing there?
And what was the acting Attorney General,
Jeffrey Rosen, who also is, of course,
stabbing Trump in the back those last few weeks,
refusing to investigate election fraud? Why did he have
the hostage rescue team at Quantico stationed there the weekend before January 6th? We still
have so many records and communications we have not seen. And it is pivotal because to your point,
you know, this is this was used to and is still trying to be used to end the MAGA movement and destroy Donald
Trump and lawmakers. We've seen this happen, but there's so much more.
We need to find out.
I know a listener named Curtis just messaged us on Facebook and says,
I think it's time for you to write a followup to the January 6th book.
Julie has a book out called January 6th. No, I think he's right.
Julie, this case, listen,
I say this as objectively as possible.
I love Donald Trump, endorse him early,
but I'm not dumb.
If I thought Donald Trump was really engaged
in an actual insurrection
to annihilate the United States government,
folks, I have a moral, ethical, legal,
and faith-based obligation to tell you about it.
This case, there is something not right here.
Now, when you put this all together
and Milley's history of doing really insane things,
that if it was any other president other than Donald Trump,
Milley would probably find himself in the brig somewhere.
Remember it was Milley who's,
there was this whole story about Milley and probably find himself in the brig somewhere. Remember it was Milley who's this,
there was this whole story about Milley and this coordinating with China. If there were to be some kind of attack that he would let them know, this is, this is a guy with a documented history. I
mean, the war room folks wrote about your substack piece and they said, despite Milley's claims of
maintaining neutrality, McLean suggests that his actions were politically motivated. Milley's claims of maintaining neutrality, McLean suggests that his actions were politically motivated.
Milley's own words, as cited by these two lefty reporters,
were on Trump.
He stated, Milley, I'll just fight him.
And he said, if they want to court-martial me or put me in prison, have at it.
This is cool language.
But they're his words.
It's not mine.
It is.
It's really stunning. And how Haley put it together, and of course, researching this in his words. It's not mine. It is. It's really stunning.
And how Haley put it together and, of course, researching this and his book and his transcript with the J6 committee and other sources really pieces together what you're saying.
And this is why it went so viral over the weekend. that, you know, she just pieced all of this together and painted this portrait of this
sinister man who we already know basically is a traitor who was communicating with hostile
countries, China and others to assure them that Donald Trump wasn't going to do anything
in his last few weeks as president. That's not his job. And I'm going to give you another kicker,
Dan. After January 6th,
Mark Milley took all of his records and communications related to January 6th
and classified them at the highest level.
So no one could see them.
I mean, combine that with, again,
the Secret Service texts missing as they were evacuating Kamala Harris from
the alleged pipe bomb at the DNC.
The fact that they knew early on Trump did not, in fact, attack a Secret Service driver
because the driver was willing to talk.
Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney's efforts to suppress certain people being on the January
6th committee.
This case, Julie, I only got a minute.
Hiding the videos. Hiding the videos from the American people. the january 6 committee uh this case julie i i only got a minute
the videos yeah there is something not right here folks if you were an objective observer there's something not right just quick julie because i i should have wrapped this up i'm out of time but
do you think this should be the the biggest focus of an incoming donald trump oj a full
investigation of the events of that day. Should this be included?
Absolutely.
It has to be his priority.
And of course, then the release of everyone
whose lives have been destroyed,
1400 plus defendants and counting
whose lives have been destroyed
by this J6 vicious prosecution.
Well, I encourage you to follow
listener Curtis's advice
and January 6th, the sequel,
Pardue or something like that, Julie, because there's so much more here between J6, the pipe
bomb, Millie, the Secret Service tax. I mean, the story is just exploded. It is a major scandal.
Folks, if you want to read this piece, which went nuclear, you can find it on Julie Kelly's
to read this piece which went uh nuclear you can find it on julie kelly's uh a substack she's also on x at julie underscore kelly too i uh strongly encourage you to give her a follow on that true
social as well and check her substack out as well worth your time julie thanks so much for coming on
today i know you're in high demand after this piece we appreciate it always grateful to be on
dan thanks so much you got it folks isie, Mark Millie scandal is outrageous.
And being that it's the third or fourth story about this guy,
I don't know about you,
but I'm starting to get me some real suspicions about what went on there.
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We interviewed producer Jim about his best sell.
He's a bestseller now.
Do you know that, folks?
His new book, The Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide.
You're going to want to listen to this,
how the book started, where it came from.
Check this out.
I want to welcome to the show a new guest.
Guy's electric.
You may not have heard of him before.
Found him wandering the streets of Dallas aimlessly. Mike was like,
bring this guy in the studio. He looks like he could use some airtime. His name is producer
Jim Verney. Producer Jim, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Dan. It's a pleasure to be
here. Yeah, well, you've been here for three years, but we'll just pretend you just showed up.
So Jim, you have a new book out today, folks. it's a real book. There are still people emailing me.
And they're like, Dan, is the book real?
It's real.
As a matter of fact, what is it, Bill?
Yeah, Bill on Facebook.
Bill B.
Hey, you got my book today.
Good job, Captain Jim.
So there's already people buying it.
What's the name of the book, Jim?
It is the Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide.
And that's a title that you came up with.
It is. And I had very little input into the book though but tell the audience why we decided to write this book we
were getting a lot of questions right about little gizmos and rules and things we say so
so explain to the audience like for example the pa i think it happened like maybe after uh we were recognizing pantera and the pantera incident and then you keep getting calls or or facebook
messages about hey what is the pantera incident i don't know what that is right you told me
you should write a book or something about you know a little pamphlet or something about that
well i got started and i just started thinking about the show and how the whole thing came together.
And it just came out of me.
I was just like vomiting up all this stuff about the radio show and how it started.
It's like I didn't know I needed to get it out, but I needed to get it out.
So I got it out.
Folks, he's not kidding.
He's not kidding.
And Jim, you're being humble about it but so I
I kind of was joking with him when I said that I because the Pantera incident if you want to know
what the Pantera incident was it's in the book I don't want to take away time it's called the Dan
Bongino show survival guides by producer Jim it's his thing it's his thing it's not my thing I'm
the publisher but it's his book. But he sends me the manuscript.
And really, I thought it was going to be like a gag gift.
You know, like Michael Knowles had that book out, Reason to Vote for Democrats, and it's blank.
I thought it would be a gag thing.
Like you do like a 20, 30-page book with some here are the damn Bongino rules.
Folks, the book is like a serious book, man.
I couldn't put it down.
He sends me the manuscript.
One, he's an excellent writer.
I know that because I'm a crap writer. I hanging participles everywhere editors always catch um but he's a
great writer and there's a couple of chapters it's not like a history book I mean you can read it in
a couple hours easy but the first couple chapters about the history of talk radio and how Jim got
where it was really incredible I was like damn I forgot all that stuff happened in talk radio.
That was, I think, one of the best parts, Jim.
That was one of my favorite stories was you never call me on the weekends.
You know, I mean, we get to call on Sunday
and you leave a voicemail with all the prep and everything.
But Saturday morning, about 11 o'clock, and I had sent it.
I don't know why I got up like 6.30 in the morning that morning
and I realized I had to send it to you because you wanted to read it first and then at 11 o'clock my phone rings and it's you and I'm like
oh man something something must be up and the first thing you said was Jim you wrote a book
I'm like yeah I know I wrote a book he goes no but like you wrote a real actual book yeah
Jim I gotta you probably thought I was calling you because it was Saturday like man that Friday but like you wrote a real book. It's an actual book. Yeah. Jim, I got to tell you,
you probably thought I was calling you
because it was Saturday.
Like, man, that Friday date night must've been rough.
What the hell is he calling me for on a Saturday?
So I get up early that morning.
I don't know, early for a Saturday.
And I decide, let me open Jim's book, see how it is.
And I'm telling you, I love Jim,
but folks, I didn't know what to expect.
I had only known him about two and a half years
at that point, which in radio time may be a lot. But for me, I don't know. I don't know what I'm
getting. She could have been. And I was really uncomfortable because I thought it's being
candid. If this is terrible, I like Jim a lot. We're friends. Like, how do I tell him? So that's
why I called him right away. Cause I'm like, damn dude, this is a really good book. And I figured
I'll read a few chapters and then get to a few tomorrow. I read the whole thing straight through.
So one of the other things I find really funny is we have a bunch of things we do on the show.
And folks, I've always been candid that the things we do, the greatest broadcaster of all time is Rush Limbaugh.
He just is.
And what I loved about his show, and Jim, please chime in against your your book is he always had these things with his
audience that developed this bond like the the real linda right if you didn't know what
rio linda was you had to go look it up but he wasn't going to explain it a thousand times
so i said if i ever do radio i'm not going to invent mediocrity i i'm going to replicate genius
and i thought that's a really cool thing like the Pantera incident when it happened on the
show we refer to it all the time Eric is our official Pantera recognizer but we do get really
a lot of questions Dan why do you play Pantera every week so that was kind of the genesis and
I know you got that and I know you have the goofy glue incidents in there too right but that's the
thing that really does bond you to an audience is that you have these inside things.
There's just a local station here in town in the DFW area that's just perfected this, where it's a lot of inside jokes and everything.
And if you know, you know.
And that was one of the reasons, an impetus for the book was to get the people who are passionate about the show, if they don't know what some of those things are,
this is all explained for them.
But it's also about a history about how we all came together.
I like the story.
And it's been told a little bit before.
You didn't necessarily want me to do the show.
You wanted somebody else to do the show.
No, not necessarily.
I didn't want you to do the show.
This is in the book.
Jim's being nice.
Folks, we both work with this woman, Teresa.
Teresa G, right?
She's a big shot at Westwood.
I don't even know what her title is.
She's the viceroy of the eastern regions or something.
That's her name.
It's probably really her title.
Who knows?
But she's not the CEO.
It's Colin and stuff.
But she's the one I deal with.
She deals with me and Levin and others and stuff like that.
We all work for the same company, Shapiro.
And when they first offered me the job, obviously Rush Limbaugh dies.
And who the hell wants that job?
Who's going to take the place of Rush Limbaugh?
I mean, seriously, I love Bobby Mercer.
But if you're asking who's Bobby Mercer, Jim, who's Bobby Mercer?
Bobby Mercer is the center fielder who took over for Mickey Mantle.
Exactly.
And if you're not a Yankees fan, you know Mickey Mantle.
Bobby was a great player, but he wasn't Mickey Mantle.
So I didn't want the job.
But if I was going to – it's not – I love it now,
but don't take that the wrong way.
But if I was going to do it, I was going to bring my own team,
and I wanted somebody else.
So Teresa says to me, I know this guy, Jim, Jim Verde. And I look him up. There's not much out there on him,
but she's like, he's the best. And I'm thinking, I don't want this cat. I don't even know this guy.
And it's just like, I got this other guy, Mike. I'm like, I definitely don't want him. I'm like,
I don't know who that guy is either. So we decided to get on a conference call and what happened?
So we decide to get on a conference call, and what happened?
So we get on the conference call, and basically it's Teresa and two of the other bigwigs at Westwood One,
and it's me and you, and we just start talking back and forth.
The next thing I know, an hour has gone by,
and nobody said a word except me and you.
And I'm like, does anyone else want to pipe in?
And they're like, no, we're just kind of enjoying the show.
And then, you know, you signed off and said, I guess he's going to be okay.
My favorite story, though, before that, because I was warned a little beforehand
when they were telling you about me, I guess Paula must have looked me up
or something online.
Right.
And Teresa had heard her say in the background, he's a Mets fan.
I'm like, oh, great.
Oh, that was almost fatal.
Bro, that was almost fatal. Bro, that was almost fatal.
You're lucky I had moved out of New York
and had been exposed to Orioles games for long enough
that my pinstripes kind of like watered down a little bit.
But yes, Jim is a diehard Mets fan.
And folks, the book is called
The Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide.
It's by my producer here, Jim Verde, V E R D I. The book's incredible. You have
my word. If you, if you don't like it, I'll be very disappointed. It's that good. It is when I
read it in probably two hours. And if, if you're a P one listener, the book's for you. But honestly,
even if you're a Monday, Tuesday, maybe Friday listener, a couple of days a week,
I promise you, you're going to find this book really interesting.
Jim really did a good job on it. Jim, one
last thing. We talk about the rules
all the time. Don't get dead.
Most Republicans are really Democrats,
but no Democrats are really Republicans.
If you want a full list of the rules, are
they in the book? The rules
are there and very detailed
explanations, examples,
analogies of how everything is applied yes
it's all there the golden and your theories don't forget the theories are in there the dipsy do
fliparoo the walking dead theory you know all that's in there everything that you talk about
and one other thing though that you know you won't say because you're a humble guy too
one of the reasons i wanted to write this book the way I did
was because it was an incident that none of us wanted to happen
is the reason we're all sitting here in these particular chairs,
Mike and his, me, here, and you over there in Florida.
And it really takes a lot of guts and a lot of confidence to be able to do the Bobby Mercer
thing and you were the guy to step up to do that and it was really hard and I hope I paid tribute
to Rush in the book as as well as explaining the story folks he does matter of fact I there were
things about Rush in the book I didn't even know. I mean, Jim's been in radio 10 times longer.
35 years.
Yeah, literally 10 times longer.
I've been here three years.
I mean that not figuratively.
So it's just there's so much good stuff in there.
Folks, pick it up today.
Sabor producer Jim.
I like to take care of my team and highlight their assets.
And believe me, these guys, both Jim and Mike,
both have been just tremendous personal friends I tell everyone for my
team you know you work with me and the minute you think you work for me you
know quit because I did it wrong because when you work with someone you care
about them and you do your job because you care not because you feel like you
have to and I think that's the difference here you know when I tell Jim
hey man I need a segment on something,
boom, it's done.
I don't ask him a lot,
but when I do, done.
I need you to do a video with Sean,
Trump voice, whatever, done.
Done sometimes before the show is even over.
So he's an amazing guy.
Pick up the book today, Jim Verde.
Book is called
The Dan Bongino Show Survival Guide.
You will not be disappointed.
All right, Jim, any final words
before we go to break?
You got 20 seconds.
You better wrap it up or the producer's going to cut you off.
Thank you.
He's like, wait, I am the producer.
That's it.
That's what I got.
Thank you.
The producer's going to cut you off.
He's like, Steve, that's me.
He's giving me to rap on himself.
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Yes, you can listen or watch on Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Bongino.
It video simulcasts live from the first two hours.
The last hour is only for local subscribers.
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if you want to watch all three hours. We appreciate it.
See you back on the show next week.
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