The Dan Bongino Show - The Backlash is Coming (Ep 1296)

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

In this episode, I address the explosive backlash brewing against the radical leftist destruction of the Republic. I also address the media’s purposeful coronavirus hysteria campaign. We give you th...e facts, not hysteria. We also discuss the disgusting attacks on the St. Louis couple who defended their home against a violent mob.  News Picks: AOC says the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard about the crime wave in New York City.  Ridiculous! Warrants are served on the home of the St Louis residents who defended themselves against the BLM mob. The CEO of Goya tells cancel culture to stick it up their cabooses! Airport Hangar rallies for Trump? This is a great idea. USA Today attacks Trump and humiliates itself, again! The Democrats are losing their minds over the Roger Stone commutation.  These attacks on the police are getting people killed. This FBI employee was a key player in the Spygate scandal and he deserves more scrutiny.  Copyright Bongino Inc All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:33 This is just the intro. We got the media losing their minds over mask mandates. I have some personal experience on that. We got the panic merchants back telling you Florida's exploded overnight. What else? Thomas Sowell. What else?
Starting point is 00:00:47 The McCloskeys. McCloskeys. You know the McCloskeys in St. Louis? Dared to defend their house. Now they're the subject of an investigation. We got the media face planting on a Trump symbol and a Goya CEO. A lot to address today. Don't go anywhere.
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Starting point is 00:01:15 Producer Joe, how are you? Fine, sir? Well, just another loaded Monday. Just loaded full of stuff. No, no. This one's... No, but Joe, we're usually on Mondays. Usually today is extraordinary.
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Starting point is 00:03:17 in case you were under the illusion, some of the liberals listening, not my regular listeners who I'm ferociously loyal to, and I think that goes both ways, that I was just, you know, I was just some podcast host. I have been an activist for a very long time. I've run for office. I've been to so many Tea Party, Second Amendment, free speech rallies that candidly, I lose track. Sometimes people send me photos. They say, Dan, right, Paul? Remember me from this? I love you to death but honestly i've done so i
Starting point is 00:03:45 don't remember i i'm appreciate but i honestly don't remember because they all blend in so as you heard me speak about over the last week i live in martin county florida where five county commissioners uh claim to be republicans voted to put uh mask people put face diapers on everyone um and mandated it as if we aren't all grown adults and can't figure out when to wear a mask or when not to. There's very little science behind this anyway, universal masking, that is. There's some pretty decent science behind if you're infected and wearing a mask, but science has gone out the window. Public hysteria has now taken over because the media refuses to tell you the truth. So they had a rally this week, a freedom rally for the I will not comply crowd. And keep in mind, as I said to people, and I'll say again, because my position
Starting point is 00:04:31 keeps getting mischaracterized on this, which is pretty common for liberals who lie all the time and media people who lie as well. I'm not anti-mask. I never have been. I'm not anti-mask mandates by businesses. It's your business. You want people to wear a mask? Go right ahead. Matter of fact, Paul and I had a little thing this weekend, a local place we eat. I'm not going to say where. Guy decided to be a wise guy with Paula. We said, thanks. See you later. We won't be back. Have a nice day. My choice. Nothing wrong. I'm not going to out them. I'm recommending some boycott or anything like that. I'm not anti-mask. I'm anti-stupidity. And government universal masking mandates are pure, unadulterated stupidity. So here's a photo of me at the couple photos, actually, if you want to see youtube.com slash Bongino.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Here's the rally this weekend. If you'll notice in my back pocket in the top picture, there is a mask. And people are like, oh, my gosh, he has a mask at an anti-mask rally. OK, you're wrong on two fronts. It's not an anti-mask rally. It never was, number one. And number two, I told you I'm not anti-mask. I have one I keep with me at all times. I don't understand. What part of that?
Starting point is 00:05:34 Joe, they were like, we got him. He's got a mask in his back pocket. Do you listen to my show or are you just stupid all the time? Yeah. Look, he's got a mask in his back pocket. Yes. No kidding. Yeah yeah i hear you i went i had to go to what we went to the local bagel store to get bagels every you have to wear a mask it's on the door put the mask on i didn't go in the bagel store start tearing the
Starting point is 00:05:54 place up ripping the bagels out throwing the bagels i'm not a blm activist kicking in the front door hitting people with fire extinguishers over them that's the other side that's not us i'm not anti-mask i'm anti-government tyranny and anti-stupidity there's no science behind universal masking none zero so of course the local newspaper which you know big mistake it's really asymmetric kind of fighting to pick a fight with a huge mistake. One of the local teeny boppers guys, probably about 14. I'm not really sure, but he decided to be a good idea on. This is not a joke. I did not make this Twitter. I'm going to put up a screenshot of his tweet.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So you see me at this rally and I put those pictures up by the way, on my Twitter, I was happy to be there with fellow Patriots who believe in fighting up. What's it? Antifa says it's anti-fascist, which is hysterical because they're really fascist themselves they're really anti-free speech but we are anti-stupidity so are we and to so like how would that go we should call us antusa like we're anti-stupidity and government edicts on mass are really stupid. So we showed up, um, Antusa, whatever you'd like to call us. And I put the photos out on Twitter and Instagram and elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And this local reporter from the TC Palm, not a joke. He decides it'd be a good idea to try to rat us out to the local sheriff. Not even kidding. Look at this, uh, this, this, this, uh, dope here. This is the real J Solo. That's his Twitter. In case you confuse him with any less famous J Solos, that's his real Twitter, at the real J Solo. Because you know what? It's the real one, Joe, Josh Solomon.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Because he doesn't want you to confuse him with less famous Johns. He's the famous one. He's the real one. I mean, my Twitter handle is D Bongino. It's my parlor handle, too. It's not the real d bongino okay i but this is the real j solo kind of like han solo or whatever so josh solomon otherwise known as j solo kind of like jail the real one not the faker less famous john josh solomons he's like
Starting point is 00:07:57 what is the martin county sheriff and he tags them and the city of stewart responds to its residents breaking the law and publicizing it maximum breaking the law breaking the see i never get joe's cultural references i know that one break well i remember i honestly i remember that's just sad i actually remember that song from beavis and butthead not the actual song if you watch beavis and butthead on mtv growing up they used to say that all the time but the real j Jay Solo, not the fake Jay Solo. Again, don't confuse him with lesser famous Jay Solos other than him. He thought he was going to be a real Joe. He's a reporter, journalist. What are you doing? Are you locking these people up? Good move, Jay Solo. Journalism, Joe. Journalist. Better every every day he's journalisming
Starting point is 00:08:46 every day he's just doing his journalism yeah look at these people without a bet get out there and lock them up dude that's his idea about reporting the real jay's not the fake jay so again don't confuse him with faker less famous jayos. He's very upset about that. Kid's about 14. He's probably reading Teeny Bopper magazine on the side while he pretends to be a journalist. Picking the wrong fight, guy. It's pretty much asymmetric at this point.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But you do whatever you want. I mean, I have no idea who this guy is. You tweet away. It's a public account. You want to be a public figure. You want to be a public figure. You want to be a media person and rat people out to the sheriff because you think you're being a journalist. All right, we'll show other people what you do, the real Jay Solo. Now, another issue on this. So these five county commissioners who claim to be Republicans who voted in their little dopey, tyrannical,
Starting point is 00:09:47 nonsensical, stupid guidelines that we can all as adults figure out and work out on our own. They've got me in a real spot. And it speaks to a larger issue, folks, nationwide. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up. I'm bringing this up not because it's happening in my county, because it's happening everywhere. Not just mask mandates, not just horrible media people who think it's their job to rat people out to the sheriff. Look, sheriff, go lock them up. I already said I'd take the fine.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Joe, give me the right to fine. You know where I live? Oh, they know where you live. I already said I'd pay it. Did I say that on the show? Yeah. Real Jay Solo? Not fake Jay, not lesser famous Jay Solo. Real Jay Solo. But they Jay, not lesser famous Jay Solo. Real Jay, but they know where I live. Just leave the fine at the front door.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Happy to pay. No problem at all. But there's a real conundrum here. One of these commissioners who I've met before, he's got an opponent in the primary. The opponent, who I've communicated with, is not
Starting point is 00:10:47 a conservative at all. And it reminds me of the problem nationally, and I'm going to call this the Martin County Commissioner conundrum. It's when you get these people who claim to be Republicans and conservatives and back liberty and freedom and our values, Joe,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and they get into office and they become rhinos and do rhino things and stupid things and tyrannical things like universal masking, like we're all children. They create a real problem for us. I'm being serious here. And the problem is this, what do you do? You can't sit it out. There's no quitting. There's no, well, I'm not going to vote for anyone. I'm just going to stay home. No, no, that's not an answer. That's honestly, folks, that's just, that's juvenile. I'm sorry. We can't sit it out. The decisions they make affect our lives and our kids' lives.
Starting point is 00:11:30 This is our country. It's not theirs. But the conundrum they put us in is this man has an opponent who's not a conservative at all, not even a little bit, and is running as a Republican, and really, in my opinion, isn't a Republican at all. Sounds like a Democrat, if you know what I mean, Joe, running as a Republican because she knows running as a Republican. And really, in my opinion, isn't a Republican at all. Sounds like a Democrat. If you know what I mean, Joe running as a Republican, because she knows it's a Republican
Starting point is 00:11:49 County. I communicated with, am I going to disclose? I don't want to say what we're in her emails or not, or why it would be unfair. And I didn't tell her that in advance, but she's not a conservative. So now we're in this position. We're in nationally where Republicans get elected. They take our money. They take our time. They take our money.
Starting point is 00:12:05 They take our time. They take our vote and they pledge to us to do Republican things. And then they don't. They do big government, nanny state things. And they put us in this spot where we're constantly forced to vote for the lesser of two evils. I call it the Martin County Commissioner conundrum because I don't have an easy answer for you. I have an answer, but it's not an easy one. The answer is you still have to vote for the lesser of two evils sometimes.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Why? Because it's the lesser of two evils. Someone says to you, hey, I'm going to either cut you in half with this chainsaw or I'm going to give you a paper cut. They're both pretty evil, right, Joe? But I think I'll pick the paper cut instead.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You don't have a choice. Most people would be. You don't have a choice. You don't destroy your job, your county, your businesses, and your neighbors because you're trying to make a point
Starting point is 00:12:56 by sitting an election out. Sometimes you have to accept the lesser of two evils. The only solution here, and it's not an easy answer, is short-term and long-term, we just have to find and vet better candidates. I know we've tried that before.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I know we've tried, but we can't stop trying. That applies locally here. I'm doing that now at a meeting this weekend. And it applies nationally as well. We just have to find better people. I know it's not an easy answer. That's why I call it the nationally as well. We just have to find better people. I know it's not an easy answer. That's why I call it the conundrum. Conundrums aren't about easy answers.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They're dilemmas we have a hard time working our way through because everything is tough. There's no every fork you take in the road leads to another fork in the road. But we have to start today. All right. Sorry, but I can't get over the real Jay. The real Jay. Don't confuse him with the lesser Jay. I can't get over that.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I changed my... The real Deepo. Really? Maybe he's afraid they'll confuse him with Harrison Ford or something like that. Han Solo. Napoleon Solo.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Rattling me out to the sheriff. How funny is that? Sheriff, what are you going to do? You better go lock that budget. Why are you looking at me over there? I'm getting a look. Why? No, come on.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Everybody thinks Paula should have a microphone. What is it? Come on. I'll relay what you're saying. What? Yeah, she's got some. I know I can tell she's got some commentary. What? Oh, yeah, yeah. that's a good point see paula commentary we do have to get her a microphone when it's not like we're cheap she doesn't like to be on camera but she should she says oh yeah
Starting point is 00:14:35 now the media loves cops right yeah go arrest them bargetto for not wearing a man that's a great point well done miss paula she does she always has good point we do we got to get her mic let's commit to that today we're getting paula microphone now they love cops go issue him his 50 citation please go ahead right away i don't care we'll be a-okay all right moving on so the panic merchants are back joe they're back with coronavirus god forbid they give you the facts Joe the facts like we do on the show
Starting point is 00:15:06 you know your facts and things so you can make rational reasonable decisions they don't want any of that the media is now now that they're they don't see any political advantage
Starting point is 00:15:15 with furthering the police suck narrative they stuck with for a while you know police are based on by the way a universally agreed upon grotesque use of force incident there was no disagreement anywhere anywhere amongst any credible circles
Starting point is 00:15:28 about the incident with Floyd. None with Mr. Floyd. None. There was no disagreement there. Everybody was like, we got to fix that. Yeah. But of course, that turned and morphed into what, Joe? A universal media police suck rally, which is what they do,
Starting point is 00:15:42 because they can use that, they think, to their political event. They're not media, Dan, they're not political. That's good. That's a good one. That's really funny. So now they've given up on that because the political advantage from painting the police who conservatives generally support is bad guys.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's kind of Wayne, Joe, it's gone down a little bit. The emotions are, so the media has to do something else. They're like, what do we do next? You know,
Starting point is 00:16:03 maybe they got a focus group together or whatever, and the focus group is like media people. You have to start painting coronavirus hysteria again, painting the full portrait of coronavirus hysteria, because that makes Trump look bad too, just like us painting the cops as awful who conservatives like, and Trump is a conservative or is governed as such. We got to move on to another now.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So they're back. They're back to, you would think Florida, Joe, has been surgically removed from the United States because it's such a disaster right now. It's floating out into the sea. Again, I will go back to the social media feed of the great Alex Berenson, who actually does facts, who, again, will challenge a Republican or a Democrat narrative on coronavirus. And that's good. Facts matter. So what's really going on in Florida? Because you've been you've been told the whole state is burning, right? It's burning to the ground, folks.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah. Well, here's Berenson, who actually cites florida's own data god forbid we use our real data he says and after a week of nightmare headlines about florida and about 70 000 new cases aka positive tests hospitals have a grand total of 130 more patients in ic ICU beds statewide than last Sunday. Can't make it up, folks. Now, he does cite that there were 45 deaths, and these deaths are tragic. We shouldn't have to put that caveat in there because it seems like common sense. But liberals on the other side who are not interested in common sense or facts or reality,
Starting point is 00:17:42 I was having this conversation with Paula last night. It's morphed into a conversation by the liberals whenever you bring up the facts what do you want people to die? please stop talking you're a moron no nobody wants people to die you're just an imbecile and you have no real argument to make
Starting point is 00:17:57 you're suggesting what? that we should shut down the state again bankrupt our hospitals destroy our food supply? And destroy the businesses of hundreds of thousands of middle class Floridians over a virus
Starting point is 00:18:15 that yes, seems to be the positive tests have gone up but that the fatality rate right now and the number of fatalities we have albeit all tragic, you want to bankrupt the whole state because of it? Just to be clear. What do you want people to die?
Starting point is 00:18:37 What do you want people to think you're a moron? Because by saying that, you look like one. Every single proposed solution to the coronavirus problem has a trade-off you want to lock the state down again bankrupt the entire state have you considered how many people do you want people to die have you considered how many people would die from that so again the facts ladies and gentlemen because we have friends of ours too calling us down here oh my gosh florida's burning to the ground smelling it's not it has a problem it is dealing with like every other state
Starting point is 00:19:15 now you probably heard number two as well the you know the panic merchants in the media we can't open schools we can't open schools. We can't open schools. Got to keep the schools closed. You do. Yeah, so now you want to bankrupt the food supply, shut down the hospitals, and bankrupt the entire United States economy over what is a troubling, but at this point manageable threat. The ICUs in Florida are not overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's not happening. You're making that up. But now you don't want to open up schools either. So you want to cost kids, what, two years of education, untold amounts of productivity later in their lives because they'll have missed out on education. You want to knock all that out because of what? Some unmanageable threat?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Well, what's the real threat to children in schools? Matter of fact, Joe, I think it'd be a fair question to say, what's the real threat to children in schools? Matter of fact, Joe, I think it'd be a fair question to say, what's the real threat to children by this virus at all? There's got to be data, right? Now, I'm sure you've heard the data I'm about to present. You have, right? Of course you have, because the data paints a very different picture about the coronavirus threat to children than the panic merchants and hysteria merchants in the media want you to believe because they want the school shut down. Why? Because they don't give a damn about you, your kid, or anything.
Starting point is 00:20:33 They're interested in political narratives that hurt the president. And because the president came out and said we should open up schools, the media narrative is, no, we shouldn't. I saw an interesting meme this week, and it said, if president Trump recommended that you don't do your business in your draws, it's kind of funny that media people would walk around on weekend crapping in their draws all day, which is absolutely true because they really are that stupid. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That was a great response. Well, it's true. Is it not? Yeah. When Trump came out tomorrow and Well, it's true. Is it not? Yeah. When Trump came out tomorrow and said, oxygen is bad. The media would walk around with plastic bags on their heads all day.
Starting point is 00:21:11 So there was a study. You may say to yourself, Joe, is there actual data about the threat to children? Shockingly folks there is, but you probably haven't heard about it. Here's a study they did in Iceland. It was a fascinating study because the study is very, to use the buzzword of the day, robust.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Spread of SARS-CoV-2 in the Icelandic population. It's a pretty exhaustive study where they did some tracing on people. And the tracing was done in a very scientific, very strict manner to determine who gave the virus to who. Now, you'd say if the media is arguing like they always do, Trump said, open up the schools. We got to shut those schools down because Trump said otherwise, we don't care what happens. You may say this Icelandic study surely backs the media up that this is a huge threat to children, right? Well, hat tip to this individual, forgive me if I'm saying his name wrong, but he covered this study and said, let's talk about the real Icelandic study and the threat
Starting point is 00:22:11 to children. His name is Nuhan Nahas. If I'm saying your name wrong, forgive me, it's not intentional. I'm terrible with names. But here's his first tweet covering this study and the threat to children that the media wants you to believe should justify shutting the schools down. He said, the study we just mentioned, we just showed, isolated the COVID samples from every positive case, Joe. They sequenced the genome of the virus and tracked the mutation patterns. This analysis, along with contact tracing, allowed the authors to identify definitively who passed the virus to who.
Starting point is 00:22:42 This was unique. This is Newman to Haas. So we're clear on this there was no doubt with this study who gave the coronavirus to who in this icelandic study of children now again if you believe the media keep the schools shut down trump said otherwise you must say surely there's evidence in this study that children are giving it to everyone, right? Not really. Check out tweet number two by Mr. Nahas. Based on this, the study, the senior author concluded, get ready for this, Joe, quote,
Starting point is 00:23:25 even if children do get infected, they are less likely to transmit the disease to others than adults. We have not found, wait, wait, wait, before I read this sentence, authors of the study, this can't be right, Joe. We have not found a single instance of a child infecting parents? No. Come on. There's got to be a mistake. Something's wrong somewhere. Got to be a mistake, Joe.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I don't think the guy knows what quotation marks means. That that was in the study yeah quotation marks clearly he's making that up except for the fact he actually links to the study you can read it yourself um do you hear that in the media yeah i just said where do we do we hear we hear that anywhere no what have we heard florida's melting down should be sawed off within the United States and made a prison colony. We should put a 75-foot concertina wire wall around Florida as we saw it off, let the peninsula float out, play tectonics type thing. Because it's melting.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's burning to the ground. ICUs are overflowing everywhere in Florida. Shut the whole state down. And we've heard the kids, you can't send them back to school. This is a grave threat to the kids who will bring it back and give it to their parents.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, but they actually trace the genetic mutations in this study with detailed contact tracing. They didn't find any of those zero no none wow now you may say come on dan science schmions we don't actually do that stuff i mean the real jay solo knows better not the fake jay solo the real jay solo clearly he's the guy's 17 he's reading teeny bopper mag reading watch look at a picture of Alyssa Milano from her days in who's the boss
Starting point is 00:25:10 or whatever so the real Jay Solo knows better the guy's a genius gonna call the sheriff on us sheriff come right as a citation go send him right to the house so clearly he knows there's got to be another study out there, Joe, showing that children are massive super spreaders, even though the Icelandic study found zero examples of that. Well, you'd be right. There are other studies. Maybe the real Jay Solo should check these out too. Here's the third tweet in this awesome thread by Mr. Nahas saying, you know, they did another study in Ireland on the out too. Here's the third tweet in this awesome thread by Mr. Nahas saying, you know, they did another study
Starting point is 00:25:46 in Ireland on the kids too. Researchers compare infected children with infected adults. This is crazy, Joe. This is crazy because we've been told the kids it's going to be
Starting point is 00:25:56 an epidemic with the kids. Quote in the Ireland study, not the Iceland study, it's the case the real J Solos, but that's an R instead of a C, not the fake J Solo, the real case the real Jay Solos, but that's an R instead of a C, not the fake Jay Solo, the real Jay Solo. He says,
Starting point is 00:26:08 despite identifying in this Ireland study a total of 722 contacts for the infected children. Wow, it sounds like a lot. The study found, wait, wait, what did it find? Paul, am I reading this right? Found not a single instance
Starting point is 00:26:22 of an infected child passing on the virus. Hold that, that can't't be that can't be is the real jay solo reading this wait wait there's more in this tweet thread because this is this is genius in contrast the adults who were infected had fewer contacts 102 and yet did pass on the infection come back to me me a second. We'll go back here. So just to be clear, over 700 traced contacts in Ireland, Ireland, not Iceland, are not seen. The Iceland study is a different study
Starting point is 00:26:53 where they found zero children who passed it on. The Ireland study studied 722 contacts. That's a large sample size. I don't know if the real Jay Solo does science, statistical analysis and stuff. Maybe the fake Jay Solo does,
Starting point is 00:27:10 but that's a lot. That's a sample size. 722 contacts. They can't find a single instance of a child passing it on. I thought we did science science science science yeah you do science if science means imbecility that's the science you do kind of weird joe how the adults had one seventh of the contacts, 102 contacts, rather than the kids who tend to play and run around with each other in groups.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And the adults did pass it on, which if you believe in things like science, real science, not media, science, dreaded air quotes, that should tell you that adults are the ones spreading this, not the kids. But no, let's keep them out of school. Now, surely Ireland, Iceland, you're like, there can't possibly be another study out there
Starting point is 00:28:09 that shows the same thing, right? Because the media, you know, you're not hearing this anywhere in the media that wants to keep the schools shut because Trump said to open them up. By the way, one quick, before I get back to it, I say to the Trump team, listen, I'm being a bit sarcastic,
Starting point is 00:28:23 but not really. Trump should come out and say, shut the schools down forever., I'm being a bit sarcastic, but not really. Trump should come out and say, shut the schools down forever. The media will come out tomorrow and say, open them up tomorrow. There's no risk. Look at the science. Because they're idiots. They're really that stupid. I've worked with these people in my prior line of work.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They are morons. I'm telling you, ladies and gentlemen gentlemen it's not an isolated example there are people like the real Jay Solo everywhere in the media not all of them it's very rare to find someone in the media who has an IQ in the triple digits
Starting point is 00:28:59 they have no evidence what they're saying about schools is true at all you may say surely if there's not enough. You're watching on YouTube. You got to kind of see ahead. Let's put that tweet chain up again. You're like Ireland, Iceland, no cases, kids transmitting the virus. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Maybe they're not because they're young and healthy. They're not developing enough viral load and shedding enough virus to actually transmit it to others. Maybe if you believe in science, you would have read that. In the Netherlands, there's another report by the ministry of health based on extensive contact tracing data here we go joe this is crazy again also found almost no disease spread by infected patients 20 and under at all by the way if you read that tweet thread and i encourage you to go to mr uh newman nahasa's account there is a chart table in the interest of time for the show because i got so
Starting point is 00:29:52 much to get to i'm really sorry today's really loaded there's a chart you know a bar graph for the real jay solo and stuff and the bar graph has some interesting data for people 19 and under you know the bar graph number of people through contact tracing they infected you know what the interesting part about the bar graph joe is there's no bars for people 19 and under now for the real jay solo i'm not sure you've ever read a bar graph before the way this works is the reason there's no bars is because there are no people they've infected. Maybe the fake Jay Solo knew that, but not the real one. He's going to call the manager on you and definitely call the sheriff. God forbid
Starting point is 00:30:35 you use like science and stuff. Sciencing. No people under 19. Folks, that would, listen, I'm not an epidemiologist or an infectious disease expert. But I believe in science and common sense. And I believe in questions. And if we're finding rates of transmission amongst people 19 and younger close to zero, maybe that would tell you something, Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like, maybe because they're young and healthy, generally speaking, their immune systems are combating this. They're not developing enough virus in their body to infect others. I'm just asking a question. You're not a doctor. You can't ask questions. Well, I'm not a moron either. And I will ask questions, but just maybe that could be the case. These whole scientific phenomenon things, they beg questions. If you're want to open up your ears, maybe, you know, media people once in a while,
Starting point is 00:31:38 you should take the cotton out of your ears and like stick it in your mouth and listen once in a while instead of always, you know, teeny boppers acting like they know things they really don't folks that's stunning data think about what i just told you zero cases of transmission let's shut the schools down yeah good idea you didn't know that joe did you i didn't know before this weekend either yeah i didn't either i mean jose i did not know that i read that tweet thread and i was like this can't be based on science until i actually went to the study and looked it up and he's right all right let me get to my second sponsor i got a lot more to get to today including the stone media is losing their mind over the roger stone commutation losing their mind over the Roger Stone commutation. Losing their mind. Trigger
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Starting point is 00:33:55 Netsuite, for sponsoring the show. We appreciate it. All right. Getting back to it. So again, Joe, trigger warning here for the libs. I know you all have a tough time. Roger Stone, his sentence was commuted. Roger Stone is a known Republican operative. He's been in Republican circles since the Nixon days as a behind-the-scenes operative. Listen, he's known for being an edgy kind of operative who can get into some things that a couple people might be like, huh, that's Stone. But Roger Stone was attacked ruthlessly by the Mueller team because of one reason and one reason only. Roger Stone decided at one point to engage in the dastardly act of providing some of the Trump team people advice he thought would help them get elected. Oh, my gosh, you got to throw him in jail.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Of course, he lied. We'll get to that in a minute. So President Trump on Friday commuted his sentence. Roger Stone put out a video subsequently of him dancing to Tone Loke's Wild Thing. That's on my social media feed, which is, I'm not kidding, which is hilarious. Roger Stone actually has some moves. He's in his 70s. And the liberals promptly lost their minds.
Starting point is 00:35:01 You know, Joe, they're tyrants. Liberals want people in jail, the guillotine, anyone who goes near Trump, because that's just how they are. They're all anti that they're tyrants liberals want people in jail the guillotine anyone who goes near trump because that's just how they are they're all anti-free speech uh tyrants that's what they do so in response the broken fully discredited now uh just a disaster right now bob muller decided it'd be a good idea to write a washington post op-ed because it wasn't good enough that he humiliated himself and embarrassed the whole country in a two-year escapade trying to prove a collusion hoax he knew from the start was a hoax. That wasn't enough, Joe. Now he's got to pile on at the end. Remember Bob Mueller, who didn't even know who Fusion GPS was? Yeah, Bob Mueller. So Bob decided to put this Washington Post op-ed out. Robert Mueller, Roger Stone remains
Starting point is 00:35:44 a convicted felon and rightly so. Seriously, folks, I'm not even sure Bob Mueller knows who Roger Stone is. Based on his last testimony up on Capitol Hill, I don't think he wrote this op-ed. I'm not kidding. That's not a joke.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It's not like one of these Biden jokes we make when Biden loses his place in the middle of a sentence. No, this is real. I'm not kidding. I think someone slapped his name on that. I don't mean it's some conspiracy. I'm not kidding. I think he, someone slapped his name on that. I don't mean it's some conspiracy. I mean, he probably knew they were going to slap his name on it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I have no doubt Bob Mueller, just like his report, he knew nothing. Remember the Mueller report? They were like, Bob, how do you feel about Fusion GPS? He was like, what? Huh?
Starting point is 00:36:17 What's that? Fusion, let me ask the real Jay Solo. What Fusion, maybe he knew, he's a reporter. I don't want to get the fake Jay Solo. Let me ask the real Jay. What's Fusion GPS again?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Bob, Bob, Fusion GPS, you know the company that paid for the dossier thing you were supposed to be investing. Dossier, not my purview. What was your purview, Bob? Was anything your purview? So he decided to fake write this up, and I doubt he even wrote it. Someone wrote it for him, and he slapped his name on it. Because, again, he can't stay out of this case because he's just been humiliated over and over again so the fascinating thing about bob muller going after roger stone again in his nonsense op-ed is bob muller is now a fully discredited political
Starting point is 00:36:55 hack oh my gosh service to the thank you i mean it that does not absolve you from making really dumb stupid decisions which you've made over and over, Bob. Bob Mueller engaged, let's just remind everyone, Bob Mueller knew two things when he started this investigation into Trump. Bob Mueller knew this case was a hoax. Dan, he's a decorated public servant. We're not allowed to attack his credibility. We're not, even though he engaged in it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Remember my second book on this, Exonerated, where I go through in detail how Mueller knew the entire time this thing was a hoax? Yeah, yeah. What is it, almost 200 pages of it?
Starting point is 00:37:33 You can't read that book and come away with it thinking anything other than the fact that Bob Mueller was engaged in an unbelievably unethical,
Starting point is 00:37:41 immoral investigation. How do we know that? Because when Bob Mueller was just a few months into his investigation, did you know they spoke to the translator at Trump Tower who was in that meeting
Starting point is 00:37:55 with Don Jr.? You know, the meeting where they alleged the Russian collusion may have hatched? The translator who was in that meeting with Don Jr. and those Russians,
Starting point is 00:38:04 Bob Mueller's team spoke to the translator. Oh, you didn't hear this? You didn't hear this on CNN or MSNBC? You missed that? Because there were actual notes. But you never heard about what the translator said, did you? Well, here's what the translator, Anatoly Samachornov, actually said about the meeting between Don Jr. and the Russians.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You know, the one, the liberals. Bob Mueller knows this, by the way, because his team is the one who interviewed him. Check this out. Here's the notes from the meeting. This is the translator who was in the meeting with Don Jr. Quote, there was no smoking gun, according to Sama Chornov. There was not a discussion about dirt on Hillary. And the translator, Sama Chornov, did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name at the meeting at all.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And the translator, Samachornov, did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name at the meeting at all. Samachornov had not heard the Russian Veselnitskaya say anything about having dirt on Hillary. And Veselnitskaya did not offer any materials during the meeting and no papers were exchanged. Additionally, there was no follow-up to the meeting that Samachornov knows about. So just to be clear, the and mighty bob muller how dare we criticize how dare you engaged in a two-year russian collusion investigation centered on a meeting don jr had with two russians where none of the things actually came up about russians russian collusion or hillary just checking because uncle bob knew that because his team's the one that did the interview. You didn't hear that in the media anywhere, did you? Highly ethical, Bob Mueller.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Sure. What else did Bob know? Well, Bob knew that the FBI in January of 2017 met with Christopher Steele, who wrote the collusion dossier. And in that meeting, he met with Christopher Steele's primary source, who allegedly gave him this information. The FBI interview him. Uncle Bob knew this. Surely Uncle Bob knew that the FBI in January of 2017 interviewed Steele's source. And the source must have said, yeah, man, this stuff is all true. The pee pee tape, Trump colluding with the Russians. He knew that, right?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Let's listen to Lindsey Graham, who kind of knows about that January 2017 meeting. Here's an interview with the great Cheryl Atkinson. Check this out. The thing that, Cheryl, intrigues me the most is in January 2017, the primary subsource, a Russian, who prepared all the information to give to Christopher Steele to go in the dossier, was interviewed by the FBI and the Department of Justice. There were four people in the interview, and he basically told them, according to the Horowitz report, this is bar talk. It's not reliable. I never meant it to be used this way. I can't believe you're getting a warrant based on this document. Okay, so just to be clear, op-ed
Starting point is 00:40:40 writer now, op-ed writer for the Washington Post, Bob Mueller, who once again doubled down on his bogus investigation started an investigation knowing all of it was false everybody debunked it and that every source involved including people involved in actual meetings had no evidence of russian collusion at all but let's defer to bob for his expertise you know bob who didn't even know what fusion GPS was. Real champ, Bob Muller. I'll never forget seeing him in the airport at Reagan,
Starting point is 00:41:10 coming back from a meeting in D.C., and him dropping his head in disgrace as he walked by me. I will never forget that. In disgrace, walking by me. Stared him right. He's tall. He's a big guy. Stared him right in the face the whole way down. By peeking out of an eye, just just make sure i wasn't still staring now the media of course is still pumping this roger stone oh my gosh we got to get this guy
Starting point is 00:41:34 in jail immediately joe he was the one he was the conduit between the russians and trump he was so the media has evidence i've heard it all over the place including a discredited msnbc hack chris hayes suggesting again that stone was some kind of russian collusion intermediary there's evidence of that roger stone you know whose sentence was commuted there's evidence that stone was an intermediary between trump and the russians where is where's that evidence i haven't seen that i want want to hat tip Aaron Maté, who had these screenshots up in his Twitter account,
Starting point is 00:42:07 who suggested that if you believe Roger Stone was an intermediary to the Russians and you have evidence, that maybe you should tell The Washington Post and New York Times.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Wait, what? Yeah, yeah. Some of the same leftist radicals who are telling you that Roger Stone was an intermediary to this Russian collusion scheme probably read these papers
Starting point is 00:42:24 that have already reported that that's not exactly true. Let's go to Washington Post piece number one here. Fascinating. Washington Post. This was from a while ago. Randy Credico, who was a friend and an ally of Roger Stone. Credico flatly rejected a claim that Roger Stone made to Congress. That Credico was a secret intermediary to WikiLeaks and Assange. Wait, that's the Washington Post?
Starting point is 00:42:50 He conceded that he promised to reach out to WikiLeaks on Stone's behalf, but testified that he never did. That can't possibly be true. We've been told Roger Stone was his big time intermediary between WikiLeaks, the Russia, he coordinated the whole thing, but he never even spoke to them, as reported in the Washington Post. Just checking. Maybe someone should tell Chris Hayes. I'm sure he reads the Washington Post. So, Joe, definitely other people confirm this, that Stone was the intermediary.
Starting point is 00:43:20 He's the middleman. Yeah, sure. The middleman for this. Big conspiracy. Stone, he's coordinating everything coordinating everything. WikiLeaks, Russians. Roger Stone's got Putin in his back pocket. So Randy Credico, his own friend, said, nah, it's not exactly true.
Starting point is 00:43:32 We were all lying about that. So secondly, definitely someone else confirmed this. Maybe Steve Bannon, right? Steve Bannon, who knew these people. So let's go to the Washington Post article number two. On cross-examination by Roger Stone's lawyers, Robert Bushell,
Starting point is 00:43:48 Bannon conceded that Stone never claimed to him that he had advanced access to the hacked emails. Washington Post, Washington Post, isn't that crazy? So Stone hasn't talked to Putin, was not coordinating with WikiLeaks, and didn't have access to these emails. Again, I'm not defending, I don't know Roger Stone. I met him once at a Fort Lauderdale event. I'm simply suggesting to you that the media, again,
Starting point is 00:44:06 is lying to you about what Stone did because he didn't do what they said he did, as reported by some in the media themselves that were forced. You may say, why are we crediting the Washington Post? I'm not. They had to report on this because this was sworn testimony by Bannon and Credico.
Starting point is 00:44:21 They couldn't lie about it. Someone raised their right hand and said, here's the whole truth. You may say, well, definitely the New York Times has evidence that Roger Stone was a big, he was the big colluder, the big colluder. He was the Hadron colluder. Isn't there a collider out there?
Starting point is 00:44:39 There's a collider. He's the Hadron colluder. Definitely the New York Times has evidence. I'd like to see that then too, because this is what the New York times had to report themselves. That quote. In fact, Mr.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Stone, a former campaign advisor had no real ties to WikiLeaks. Oh my gosh. Isn't this crazy? Yeah. Again, folks, if you're listening to Chris Hayes, left-wing media and others out there i'm really deeply
Starting point is 00:45:09 sorry that you live in a world that doesn't exist there is no evidence of that for roger stone you have to like roger you don't have to like his like his tactics but i suggest roger stone should sue anyone on tv who says that that he was a middleman between the Russians, WikiLeaks, and Trump because it is not true. It's interesting. The media is so upset about this commutation as well. Remember Bill Clinton when he pardoned Susan McDougal? Remember that one? Yeah. Susan McDougal had all the dirt on the whitewater thing. And McDougal said, I ain't saying squat and went to jail over it. Remember that pardon with Clinton? No, no. The media loved that one. They were susan mcdougall so loyal bill clinton loyal to his peeps
Starting point is 00:45:49 they're all phonies folks just get these people off it's a total joke oh and by the way you remember that guy was it from platte river networks the guy they spoke to who admitted that he lied to the fbi about the whole hillary clinton server thing yeah remember that guy you know the guy who got prosecuted is doing 10 to 20 in jail. Oh, just kidding. He wasn't prosecuted at all. He's doing no time in jail. Yeah, that guy.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So again, the media, Joe, is very concerned about Roger Stone lying. Very concerned. Until someone who lies benefits Hillary Clinton and they're like, don't ever forget this. You may say, Dan, well, Stone, you know know he didn't tell the truth in front of this hearing ladies and gentlemen the unapplication uh the uneven application of justice is no justice at all don't ever forget that the uneven application of justice is no justice at all and we are to fight against that at all times and all places everywhere. Good for Trump for commuting this sentence. I applaud him. All right, let me get to my last sponsor. I'm going
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Starting point is 00:49:15 Don't you worry. So the great Mark Levin, he's called the great one for a reason. There is no other great one. Human beings, of course. We love Mark Levin. He had the fantabulous, incredible, one of the smartest human beings I have ever read or come across or read as material,
Starting point is 00:49:36 Thomas Sowell on Life, Liberty, and Vind. Did you see it? If you did not see it last night, Sunday, you made a huge mistake because Thomas Sowell is incredible and Mark Levin is a genius. And it was one of the great interviews I've seen in a long time. So Mark had Thomas Sowell on.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And you know my favorite book of all time, right? The Vision of the Anointed by Thomas Sowell changed my life. That is my favorite book of all time. I love it. Buy a copy. Buy a thousand copies and give them out to everyone you know. Maybe someone will read it. It'll change their life too.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So Thomas Sowell, economist, philosopher, and just all around great human being was on that site. He was asked by Mark about the term systemic racism, which is a meaningless term. It doesn't actually mean anything because when you ask people to define it and what system, systemic racism, meaning there's a system that they'll never tell you what the system is. Because whenever they use the term systemic racism, they're oddly always talking about liberal cities where the system's liberal. whenever they use the term systemic racism, they're oddly always talking about liberal cities where the system's liberal. So they avoid answering the question. So Mark asked Thomas Saul about systemic racism and here was his answer, which is just great. You hear this phrase, systemic racism, systemic oppression. You hear it on our college campuses. You hear it from
Starting point is 00:50:38 very wealthy and fabulously famous sports stars. You hear it from media types. You hear it. First of all, what does that mean? And whatever it means, is it true? It really has no meaning that can be specified and tested in the way that one tests hypotheses. It does remind me of the propaganda tactics of Joseph Goebbels during the age of the Nazis, in which he's
Starting point is 00:51:06 supposed to have said that people will believe any lie if it's repeated long enough and loud enough. And that's what we're getting. I don't think it's one of many words that I don't think even the people who use it have any clear idea what they're saying. Their purpose is served by having other people came in ladies and gentlemen this man is a genius i am not kidding i am not uh awestruck or i don't fanboy anyone i don't i just don't care
Starting point is 00:51:37 i gotta tell you the only time i think i'd be at a loss for words is if I ran into Thomas Sowell. I thought I saw him one time at an airport. I thought he was too, I'm not sure if it was him or not, he was far away. And the only thing that stopped me from going and grabbing who I thought was Thomas Sowell, he was too far away for me to make out any kind of positive ID. The only thing that stopped me was I was running for office and the media person I was with was like, we got to go. This is one of the great legends of our time. He deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom for the genius that he is. His book, again, Vision of the Anointed, is a life-changing book about the failure
Starting point is 00:52:16 of far-left radical ideology. My admiration for him is deep. The man is 90 years old, and congratulations to mark levin for scoring that interview if you haven't watched the show uh i don't i at this point i don't know if you didn't dvr it you got a dvr mark show life liberty and levin it's important but i'm sure you can go to your comcast app or whatever it is and watch it or just you need to watch it it was a really fantastic show soul has a new book out too about charter schools. Show you how great Thomas Soul is. I've been watching his videos for years.
Starting point is 00:52:49 They've changed my life. I don't, I'm not, I'm not, that's not hyperbolic. I've changed my life, meaning I would be a different person now without the commentary and writings and thoughts of the legendary Thomas Soul. Here's one of my favorites, a little over a minute. This is from decades ago, but this is Thomas soul in his younger days on a debating show with a far left radical woman named Helen O'Banion, who was a Pennsylvania bureaucrat in charge of welfare programs.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And the reason this is important in this segment is because Thomas soul is great at debunking fallacies, false arguments used to advance fake stories. He addresses two of them here, and I'll play the clip for you in a minute. I encourage you to listen to every word of this because it's a genius. I've never seen this man lose a debate, Sowell, ever. The left always loves to start the story in the middle. That'll make sense after you see this clip. You'll see what I mean. But secondly, they always engage in the broken leg fallacy. The broken leg fallacy, meaning broken leg, they treat it with the same thing that broke the leg. In other words, they try to bring in government remedies for problems the government caused themselves and then ignore the fact that
Starting point is 00:53:58 the government caused it. So keep those two things in mind, how the left always starts the story in the middle and how they propose government solutions for problems the government caused. And they expect you to thank them for it. Watch soldiers totally dismantle this woman in this classic epic clip. Cut off welfare tomorrow. What will they do? What will be their immediate response at what price to their small children and to their middle aged children? to their small children and to their middle-aged children. Yes, they'll get a job. In fact, the statistics show that women, in fact, are the most successful through the employment program. But what has to supplement that, typically,
Starting point is 00:54:36 is the provision of some kind of daycare arrangement. Either the individual woman has to earn enough money to be able to pay privately for her daycare, or in fact she is, quote, quote subsidized through this insidious Corrupting program set of programs run by the federal government which in fact makes her employable and a taxpayer It's a it's an interesting notion of trying to get people in a productive mode Tom So it's incredible the way you start the story in the middle, as if there's a predestined amount of poverty, a predestined amount of unemployment, and that the welfare system is not itself in any way responsible for that. There is a predestined 20% of the bottom half of the population.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I have never—well, that's always been true. There's going to be 20% at the bottom. It's also true that 20% of the bottom population doesn't have to be living on the government and ruled by the government. You mentioned, for example, the female-headed household. Many of those, in addition to the grown woman who has all the kids, are teenage pregnancies. There's not a predestined amount of teenage pregnancy. I grew up in an era when people, and particularly blacks, were a lot poorer than today, faced a lot more discrimination than today, and in which the teenage pregnancy rate was a lot lower than today.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I don't believe there is a predestined amount of teenage pregnancy, a predestined amount of husband desertion. Gutman has done a study of the black family, showing that this whole notion that the black family has always been disintegrating, that that is nonsense, that his studies go up to 1925, the great bulk of black families were intact, two parent families up through 1925 and going all the way back through the era of slavery. So it is now only within our own time that we suddenly see this inevitable tragedy, which the welfare system says
Starting point is 00:56:15 it's going to rush into solve, but which it is itself a part. The man is a genius. I really, I mean, I'm in awe of his genius. Now that was a complicated clip, but it's worth your time to just dig through a bit what he's saying there. The woman, Helen O'Banion, who I don't know, I don't know if she's still around. If not, God rest her soul. You know, she's trying to make the argument that, well, if we were to take mothers off welfare, what are we going to do with them?
Starting point is 00:56:44 argument that, well, if we were to take mothers off welfare, what are we going to do with them? And Sol comes back and he says, well, that's fascinating that you started that kind of book in the middle, never asking, well, how did they get on welfare in the first place? And then her argument in return is, well, there's always going to be people on welfare. There's a bottom 20%. And Sol's like, huh? What are you suggesting? You're suggesting somehow that people are predestined to be poor and stupid or something? What are you suggesting? What are you suggesting? I mean, isn't it, Saul's in other words, getting to the heart of it, isn't that kind of racist? And classes that somehow there's a predestined lower 20% that just cannot escape their own what? Mental incapacities and inability to work. None of that's true. None of that's true.
Starting point is 00:57:36 None of that is true. There is a bottom 20% sum on welfare precisely because of incentives set up by a government system that has caused this chaos. And he challenged her and says, you're totally removing any responsibility of the welfare system as it's set up in and of itself, declaring there's always going to be a bottom 20, which he laughs at, by the way, because ladies and gentlemen, if you understand simple, you need to understand math. If you just understand common sense, Joe, of course, there's always going to be a bottom 20%. Sol's point is if the bottom 20% are doing really well, then they're not necessarily poor.
Starting point is 00:58:17 In other words, if everybody was making a trillion dollars and the bottom 20% are making a million in real money. No one's crying for the bottom 20%. She's suggesting that there's people destined to be poor, ignorant, who are in this fixed bottom 20% and the government's going to come in and save the day. Government's causing that. These people aren't predestined for anything. The people in that bottom 20%, many are there because the government has destroyed their lives. They have set up a set of incentives that many of these people could not escape. The government has failed them. Stop starting the story in the middle. Let's get to the root of the problem first. And she says that, that this bottom 20% is almost inevitable, what she's hinting at, to make you believe that the government had no role in it. That's why she's doing that.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And Seoul immediately catches it. That's not true. Of course, by simple math, you're always going to have a bottom 20%. That doesn't mean you have to be poor. The bottom 20%, you want just a simple example? have to be poor. The bottom 20%, you want just a simple example? The bottom 20% in Indonesia makes far less money than the bottom 20% in the United States, right? But there's a bottom 20%. Yeah, but relative condition matters. How did the bottom 20% in India make as much as they make versus the bottom 20% here? Something's different. Governing systems are different.
Starting point is 00:59:47 They do this all the time, the left. Don't let them get away with it. Sol's just a genius with that. All right, I wanted to get to this because I teased it on my Parler account where I do the show feeds in the morning. I'm sorry if you're hearing that in a bad, this landscape guy's making me crazy in the background.
Starting point is 01:00:02 So forgive me if that's bleeding through. Are you hearing any of that, Joe? Yeah, I just pulled my cans off to see if it was outside my place. Yeah, I hear it. No, no, no, it's not. All right. Sorry about that, folks. But still, the show goes on no matter what. So my new hero is the CEO of Goya. I love this guy, Babu Nanu. And again, if I'm saying your name wrong, forgive me. I say my own name wrong a lot. But here's a piece up in legal insurrection. Be up at the show notes today.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Check this out. It's so worth your time. The CEO of Goya is not backing down one bit. So again, he made the dreaded mistake, with air quotes here, the dreaded mistake of going to the White House and saying, hey, President Trump's a builder. We like this guy. You know, God forbid. Meanwhile, the same guy, God forbid you say that at the White House with Trump.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Of course, you have to be boycotted immediately but the ceo of goy has been at meetings with michelle obama barack obama as well and ladies and gentlemen that's what businesses do you're invited to the white house you go it's not a mystery okay so he went praised president trump and the boycott brigade began here's the article up at Legal Insurrection, folks. Just, again, incredible. These people never give up. Folks, it's time to get up and dance again. Listen, I hope he holds strong. It sounds like he's going to, the CEO of Goya, Mr. Bob. Call him Mr. Bob because I don't like mispronounced his last name, and I'm sure I'm doing it, despite how many times I've looked it up because I've heard it three, four different ways. But it's time to get up and dance and do something again you remember my get up and dance show i did
Starting point is 01:01:30 i don't talk about dance like you got to show your moves like roger stone i talk about that video i've i've spoken about many times in the show that was shown to me by a conservative activist once it's a guy at a festival he's dancing to music and it's kind of an interesting dance. And people are laughing at him at first. They think it's funny. Then all of a sudden, the first guy gets up and starts dancing with him. And about two and a half minutes later, the entire park is dancing with the guy they were laughing at in the beginning. Well, I'm sure a lot of liberals are laughing at Mr. Bob, the CEO of Goya right now, mocking this guy, praising President Trump, God forbid.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Folks, we need some other CEOs to stand up and stand with him. Remember, it's not the person who gets up and dance. It's the first person to join him that matters. We need to back this guy up you need to dance with him picked up some sazon here you're gonna see my in case you think i'm messing with you bought some goya olive oil too this weekend that one didn't get delivered i don't know why maybe the bottle broke but we got some sazon coming be like why do you have it three times because i bought three of them um probably won't use three of them anytime soon maybe one or two but maybe i'll give one away if i see an event
Starting point is 01:02:52 maybe i'll bring some sason goya ladies and gentlemen go out buy some goya products you gotta stand up and dance money matters i'm sorry i wish it didn't i wish we lived in a nice cutesy world where you know everybody did the right thing and we could all live in uh you know literally takes a village kind of that's not the way the world works we have to go out and do the right thing we got to back this guy up go pick up some products go do it today they're not a sponsor I have no financial interest um in Goya I don't I don't even know if it's a public interest. I didn't even look it up. But this guy deserves our support. All he said was that he thought the president was a builder,
Starting point is 01:03:30 was doing a good job. I'm not even sure what his exact, it doesn't even matter. It's probably milquetoast. And he's being attacked by the cancel culture lunatics on the left. And it's a disgrace. All right, what should I do? The McCloskeys. Can we do the AOC thing? Paula, can we skip ahead? I'll do the McCccloskey's can we do the aoc thing paula can we skip ahead
Starting point is 01:03:46 i'll do the mccloskey's tomorrow this is important all right final story of the day this we're bookending the show joe with ignoramuses you know we had the real j so not the fake j solo the real Jay. So not the fake Jay Solo, the real Jay Solo first. Wants to speak to the manager and the sheriff about people who dare to be out in public unmasked. Dare, dare. The real Jay Solo was deeply offended. So on the other end, we have AOC. Good job.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I know you've already seen this. Don't laugh because you've already seen it. Joe gets to cheat on video stuff sorry paula gets to cheat on the visuals because she does joe does the audio video and then drew sees it but the show's already over so aoc would who's always a source of comic relief it's a stunning people take uh this representative seriously i mean i'm not kidding it really is i i can't recall any kind of major statement she's made that has not come with hilarity afterwards because she's remember when she was puzzled by agriculture remember joe what was that thing remember look plants remember that we were like she was like and they grow like in the dirt this is aoc
Starting point is 01:05:02 now a lot of you email me after i do aoc segments and you say things like, why don't you ignore her, Dan? Uh, no. A woman's ideas are very dangerous. Ideas she claims to believe in have led to the downfall of civilized society since the beginning of time. These ideas have to be called out and challenged. You ignore them at your peril. And by the way, Paula very rarely gets angry at politicians. She seems to have taken a personal dislike in AOC lately.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I just want, am I, is that, am I correct in that analysis? She's giving me a head nod. She very rarely comments on the videos I send her. So here's AOC this weekend who face plants again. And in a Zoom town hall session, as if she's trying to say the dumbest things possible, she succeeded this weekend. She's suggesting that Joe ignore the 600% increase in shootings in New York City year over year, and the 27% increase in murders. Because don't worry, Joe, it's just people who are hungry
Starting point is 01:06:04 trying to feed their kids huh no no no no i'm like play the cut so why is this uptick in crime happening well let's think about it do we think this has to do with the fact that there's record unemployment in the united states right now the fact that people are at a level of economic desperation that we have not seen since the Great Recession. Maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay their rent. And so they go out and they need to feed their child and they don't have money. So you maybe have to, they're put in a position where they feel like they either need to shoplift
Starting point is 01:06:42 some bread or go hungry that night. So asula brought up which was a brilliant point i have to hat tip her on this footnote getting a lot of mentions in the show today a lot she's on a roll so she's suggesting what that poor people steal stuff again joe just kind of like helen o'bannon with the suggestion that there's a bottom 20 of people who are really dumb and can do nothing to change their condition. You know, liberals, they always do this stuff. She's suggesting if you don't make a lot of money, you're struggling, that you're going to go steal stuff from people. I'm asking, AOC, you feel free to respond. What were you saying there?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Can't pay their rent, so they're out there shoplifting. But secondly, you know, Joe, again, science and data. It's always tough for liberals, I guess, especially AOC. You can process barely any information at all. God forbid, like complex information, like looking at the science. So that should be a challengeable hypothesis, correct, Joe? Yeah. If the economy, AOC's hypothesis, and I'm trying to formulate the stupid into coherent thought for her.
Starting point is 01:07:45 So the economy gets bad, shoplifting goes up and that's what the crime wave is all about. So we should be able to look at that. Correct, Joe? Like shoplifting, that's called Pettit larceny. I'm not sure she knows that, but that's the charges. Grand larceny, Pettit larceny. I've arrested quite a few people in the NYPD for stealing things. We should be able to empirically look at that,
Starting point is 01:08:08 right? Well, I did. And it turns out that pedant larcenies in New York are down 7.5%. Yeah. So murders and shootings are up. So just to test the hypothesis, you're walking in the store and you're murdering the guy,
Starting point is 01:08:25 but you're not stealing the bread. I'm just checking. Like, what am I missing? I'm just asking. Shootings are up 600%. Murders 27%. But pennant larcenies are down. But she just told us they're shoplifting bread.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Now, you may say that can't possibly be true. It is. So let's go to the New York Post, which has a great article about this. You can read at the show notes today. Again, bongino.com slash newsletter for the show notes. AOC blames economy for New York City crime wave, not the NYPD cuts. So we go down in the New York Post piece and we see this little gem about AOC's genius assertion that they're stealing bread and that's the cause of people murdering people uh U.S. Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Sunday
Starting point is 01:09:10 bizarrely claimed that hungry new I'm not laughing this is just so stupid I can't believe this that hungry New Yorkers are stealing stealing bread we're behind an uptick in crime in the city despite the fact that overall crime is down while shootings and murders of sort people follow this this this uh the representative ocasio-coronado people follow her they believe her she spouts nonsense 24 hours a day and lemming like followers walk right off the intellectual cliff with her shootings up 600 she thinks it's because people are stealing bread despite pettit larceny's being down again i'm just asking they're shooting the guy in the store but not stealing the bread or they're shooting the
Starting point is 01:09:57 guy stealing the bread and hiding the fact that they stole but what are they they're hiding the bread like they not the gun they're hiding the bread so the cops get the guy for the gun but the bread's hidden like don't let him see the bread like flushing it down the toilet like their wife and goodfellas when they do the raid on the flesh flushing the bread what about the gun don't worry about the gun flush the bread can't let him find the bread we don't want pettit larcenies to go up i mean what planet does this woman live on? Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. What? What? I'm not mispronouncing her.
Starting point is 01:10:34 It was a mistake. I don't ever mispronounce her name. Listen, I've always said, congratulations, you won a seat in Congress. It's very hard to do. I did not. Having said that, it's your responsibility, Representative Ocasio-Cortez, to actually know stuff of which you don't. All right, I'll get to the McCloskeys tomorrow. I also got a pretty cool story at the show notes. Maybe I'll talk about it tomorrow,
Starting point is 01:10:57 but read it anyway about Trump doing more airport rallies. Good idea. Open air hangars. If I go out, maybe I'll go into it tomorrow. How we do advances for those for the secret service. Pretty cool story. Secret service and how to do it. Pretty cool. So I'll check that out. Thanks again for making us top 20 on PodTrack. I opened that email this morning
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