The Dan Bongino Show - The Big, Beautiful Breakup | Episode 59
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Hey, so something going on?
Who's fighting?
What's this about?
Oh, Elon and Trump.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
We'll get to the bottom of that.
That's coming up here on Vitz.
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Look at you, especially you live here on the chat.
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Yes, I'll break down the latest between Elon and Trump.
What's going on there as an unstoppable force
meets an immovable object.
How does this all end?
And how should we all feel about this?
And then also coming up, the threats to ICE agents
being led by the left, they're completely out of control.
The ICE director now speaking out about this.
Something needs to be done.
And joining us on the program today, spokesman for the State Department, Tommy Pigott, we've
got a lot to talk about with him, including why did President Trump just banish a dozen
countries from traveling to the United States?
The details of that are all straight ahead on Vince.
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Well, this is isn't this wild?
So yesterday I'm on the radio show and we're doing the big national radio show
from 12 to 3 Eastern time
And we're listening to some of the back and forth between president trump and Elon musk and I go
Oh boy, the media is going to go absolutely crazy with this because you know, where's the press been?
The press has been absolutely desperate for a trump scandal that they've been clawing towards
So usually what they do is they just invent scandal after scandal after scandal to try and attack him with.
And I said, well, soon. And remember, think back.
They were trying to divide Elon from Trump.
Remember that? Remember the magazine covers depicting Elon sitting behind the resolute desk?
And look, the real president is Elon Musk, it's not actually Donald Trump.
And the two men these guys
Two of the most powerful men on the planet would sit down and do interviews and they would sit together and they would laugh about it
They said the media is trying to divide us. They're just trying to get in between us here
So this yes, it's true. It has been a fantasy long sought after by the media to try and sow division between these two men
That is true. And so yesterday, as this was developing,
I instantly said, I was like, you know what?
The media is gonna blow this thing out of proportion.
But then I saw Elon Musk come out
and say that he was dropping a nuke
and that Donald Trump was on the Jeffrey Epstein files.
And that's why the files haven't come out.
And I said, I'm not even sure
how you can blow this out of proportion.
Elon just blew it to another proportion.
So I wanna take you through, we're gonna go blow by blow
through how the day actually rolled out
and what you should really be paying attention to here
and why I am not at all really that upset about this.
I'm not, I feel actually great this morning
about the way everything is transpiring
and what it could mean next for the country.
Again, I'll get into all of the details of that.
But first, let me take you through
what transpired yesterday.
The President of the United States
was seated with the German Chancellor
in the Oval Office yesterday.
And we've already had Elon Musk out campaigning
against the big, beautiful bill,
which by the way is big and it is beautiful
and it is gorgeous, man.
That thing is a head turner.
When that chick walks into a room,
everybody's head snaps in that direction
because guess what?
The big, beautiful bill actually contains
all of the great stuff that President Trump ran on
on the campaign trail.
All of the stuff that you heard him talk about
on rally stages,
wham bam, thank you ma'am.
They've crammed that into one big beautiful bill that can pass with just
50 votes in the United States Senate and don't believe any of the
psyops that are being used to try and defeat this thing, including
what you've heard from Elon Musk.
It's just preposterous.
You want to cut spending?
Me too.
That has to be done.
Use rescissions.
Use the appropriations process.
That's how this thing is done.
This big, beautiful bill is not a budget bill.
It's not, it doesn't fund the whole government.
It passes the priorities that the president ran on and the people voted for.
Don't get it twisted.
But Elon's been attacking it.
So yesterday in the Oval Office, President Trump was asked about this, about
Elon's attacks on the, the big, beautiful bill and what's going on with your relationship and
Here's what the president said yesterday as he started to describe in very honest terms that I'm not sure we're gonna have a great
Relationship going forward and I really wish he just attacked me and not the bill itself. Take a look
Elon and I had a great relationship. I
Don't know if we're well anymore
I was surprised because you were here.
Everybody in this room, practically, was here as we
had a wonderful send-off.
He said wonderful things about me.
You couldn't have nicer.
He said the best things.
He's worn the hat.
Trump was right about everything.
And I am right about the great, big, beautiful bill.
We call it a great, big, beautiful bill because
that's what it is.
And again,
biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere,
we've never done anything like it. Yeah, this is, he said this is big, it's a great
big beautiful bill, which is really great. And I see there's a
person sitting in our chat, Commander Marcus 74, he says stop talking about all
the good the bill is doing, address the 74, who says, stop talking about all the good
the bill is doing, address the bad, you coward.
Well then lay out the bad there, Commander Marcus,
Mr. Commander of everything we need to know about this thing.
Let us know, because all of this chirping about,
oh, there's pork in the bill.
Okay, fine, lay it out.
What's the pork?
What's the pork?
Are there issues with the bill that I have?
Yeah, the salt tax deduction should not go up to $40,000.
That's ridiculous. Keep that thing down to 10. There's no reason the rest of us should subsidize the blue states. But if you're going to chirp, back it up, provide receipts. All we do here is receipts. That's the only thing we do provide evidence for it. It's like the craziest thing. This thing I'm telling you right now, we've never seen a lockdown on the immigration system like this bill provides. We've never seen a deportation bill like this bill. We've never seen a wall funding bill like this bill. We've never seen a lockdown on the immigration system like this bill provides. We've never seen a deportation bill like this bill.
We've never seen a wall funding bill like this bill.
We've never seen this in our lives
and we're never gonna see it again.
Let me repeat that.
You're never gonna see it again.
A 50 vote opportunity to secure this country.
Take it while you have the chance.
Nobody should vote against this thing.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
It's amazing. It's amazing.
It's amazing the opportunity we have.
Don't let it go away.
Normally what Washington does,
they pass amnesty in these things.
I'm not for amnesty.
I'm for security.
I'm for getting millions of people out
and I'm for doing it as quickly as possible.
And I'm for tax cuts
and I'm for Americans keeping more of their own money.
Don't tell me Americans keeping more of their own money
raises the debt, raises the deficit. Washington's spending problem is not my problem. My problem is
I got to feed my family. That's my problem. And so the president pursuing this agenda here.
All right. Let me see here. I've got the next piece of this. Trump also in this Oval Office meeting accused Musk of potentially
having a little bit of TDS cut too.
Take a look here.
And this is the guy you put in charge of cutting spending.
Should people not take him seriously about spending an hour?
You're saying this is all sour grapes?
No, he worked hard and he did a good job.
And I'll be honest, I think he misses the place.
I think he got out there and all of a sudden he wasn't in this beautiful oval office and he was and he's got nice offices too
But there's something about this one and I'll tell you it's not he's not the first
people leave
my administration and
they love us and
Then at some point they miss it so badly and some of them embrace it and some of them
actually become hostile.
I don't know what it is.
It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it.
But we have it with others too.
They leave and they wake up in the morning and the glamour is gone.
The whole world is different and they become hostile.
I don't know what it is.
Someday you'll write a book about it and you'll let us know.
All right, so there's the president said,
hey, maybe he's got a little bit of TDS.
This happens from time to time.
You know, Elon himself has talked about
Trump derangement syndrome
and how out of control lefties are,
how out of control some righties are
with Trump derangement syndrome,
saying they're like rabid dogs, they're like spittle everywhere.
They can't think straight because they hate Trump so much.
Now, Elon Musk was watching
all of this, as you might imagine, and he was posting to his platform X all of his reactions
to the day's events. And that includes this, you know, President Trump saying that he was disappointed
in an Elon Musk. And here is Elon saying, false, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed
in the dead of night so fast that almost nobody in Congress could even read it.
Now, that's not true.
The bill was available for weeks, actually, the text of which all members of Congress
could read. There's all sorts of people who could read it.
And that's just not true on the part that Elon's saying.
But he starts reacting here to all of this,
to which President Trump responds
in the midst of all of this.
The easiest way to save money in our budget billions
and billions of dollars is to terminate
Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.
Okay, so now things are really starting to catch fire.
So President Trump comes along and says, yeah, maybe we should cut Elon's contracts here. Then we get to
the next part of this. What happens? This is Elon Musk says, Okay, cutting off the butt
cutting off me cutting off my contracts SpaceX. This just gets better and better. Go ahead
make my day, says Elon, then we get here in light of the president's statement about the
cancellation of
my government contracts, SpaceX is going to begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft
immediately, he claims. And then the big bomb. This is the one that Elon released again,
you see right there on the screen, 3 10 p.m. Eastern time. This is 10 minutes after
10 p.m. Eastern Time. This is 10 minutes after I concluded my radio show.
And sure enough, Elon goes, real Donald Trump is in the Epstein
files, he declares.
That is the real reason they have not been made public.
Have a nice day, DJT.
And then he adds he follows with Mark this post for the future.
The truth will come out, says Elon Musk.
Now hold on to that for a moment.
I'm gonna get to that allegation in just a second.
And then finally, one of the big elements of yesterday
was this Ian Miles Chong post suggesting,
outright declaring that Trump should be impeached,
say Ian Miles Chong, Trump should be impeached
and JD Vance should replace him
is what Ian wrote.
And to which Elon Musk responded, yes, yes.
Okay, so that's the state of play.
That's how dicey things were.
Now a couple of developments overnight,
and I'm gonna get to the Elon Musk,
Jeffrey Epstein allegation in just a second,, a couple of developments overnight, and I'm going to get to the Elon Musk Jeffrey Epstein allegation in just a second. But a couple of developments overnight.
Among them is a Politico report claiming that President Trump and Elon Musk may actually
have some sort of phone call today to patch things up. But the president has been on the
phone this morning with a number of
reporters to include ABC News' Jonathan Karl, who he apparently said, he told Jonathan Karl that
Elon Musk has lost his mind and that he's not particularly interested in speaking to Elon Musk,
although he said that Elon does want to speak with him. That's what the president said.
Additionally, CNN had this this morning,
Dana Bash apparently had a phone call with the president
and immediately after that called into the network.
Here it is, cut 12.
This is President Trump's thoughts about Elon,
according to CNN.
Joining us now, someone who just got off the phone
with the president.
CNN chief political correspondent, Dana Bash joins us now by phone.
Dana, what did he tell you?
Good morning, John.
Well, he said that he's quote,
well, here's exactly what he said.
Quote, I'm not even thinking about Elon.
He's got a problem.
The poor guy's got a problem.
He said he won't be speaking to him for a while,
but he said he wishes Elon Musk well.
It was a short conversation.
He was didn't seem very exercised about it.
Yeah, he not going to be talking to him.
He wishes him well.
So again, there are some additional reports today that it may be people who are close
to Trump who will be talking to Elon. And Elon even indicated yesterday in reaction to a later tweet yesterday evening
that it would be better for the country if both of these men could come to a peace with one another.
And he agreed. He tweeted his agreement to that. So we shall see. We shall see.
Maybe things will simmer down a little bit today. but I wanna go back to what he claims to be
the nuclear bomb in all of this,
that President Trump allegedly
have some sort of nefarious relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein,
that he's in the Epstein files,
and that's why the files haven't come out.
Now, is it news?
Let me just ask the chat.
Is it news that President Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein?
Yes or no?
Is it news?
The answer is no, it's not news at all.
It's not news that President Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein many years ago.
He knew him.
So the idea that he would appear in Epstein's contact list is not a new piece of information.
That's totally known, that's well known.
In fact, as it relates to Epstein,
there's a lot of information available
that very much works to President Trump's advantage here.
Let me start with one of Epstein's accusers
by the name of Virginia Joufray.
You remember Virginia Joufray?
She in a deposition, she said out loud, I don't think Donald Trump
participated in anything in anything.
She said, uh, so they were asking, uh, Virginia Joufray about this.
And she said, so Donald Trump, the questioner said, so Donald Trump was in your mind,
you believe a witness to the sexual abuse of minors?
And she responded, I don't think Donald Trump
participated in anything.
That would have to be another assumption.
I never saw or witnessed Donald Trump
participate in those acts,
but he was in the house of Jeffrey Epstein.
I've heard he has been, but I haven't seen him myself, so I don't know.
So in other words, I've never seen him participate in any sort of illicit act,
said Virginia Juffwright. So that's one, and that's a point, of course,
in President Trump's favor. Additionally, there was another
accuser, an Epstein accuser, who at one point had made up a claim about President Trump speaking to a New York Post
Reporter name is Sarah Ransome and Sarah Ransome would later admit that she had fabricated that claim
Merely merely to lump in a bunch of other people in her effort to go after
Jeffrey Epstein she said I I made that up that detail and she had And she made up that detail in a conversation
with the New York Post.
Additionally, we have a really important piece of video.
This comes to us from a lawyer who represented 70
of Epstein's victims, who said that the only guy
that he got in touch with who was very helpful
to going after Jeffrey Epstein was one Donald J.
Trump. Take a look cut three here.
This lawyer again, who represented Epstein victims, who said Trump's the
good guy in this story.
Look, the only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the
only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas
on a lot of people or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I was
going that I wanted to talk to them.
He is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let's just talk.
I'll give you as much time as you want.
I'll tell you what you need to know." And was very helpful in the information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever
that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever.
But had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn't have
to take a deposition of him.
That was in 2009?
That was in 2009.
So...
Do you know if there's any truth to James Patterson's claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago?
I've definitely heard that.
I've definitely heard that. Okay, so that gets to the next piece of evidence in Trump's favor.
President Trump by now you you likely know but for those who don't he banished Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago
for harassing a
Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago for harassing a member's daughter. Take a look here.
This is an old CNBC report on the subject, but I want to make sure you get a hold of it here.
Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after a sex criminal hit,
after these sex criminals hit on another member's daughter.
President Trump banned his former friend, the wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein, from his exclusive Mar-a-Lago club for hitting on the
teenage daughter of another member. A new book says the late Epstein's
banishment by Trump from the Palm Beach Florida club appears to have occurred
months before Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to state criminal charges in
Florida which included paying for sexual services
from a 14 year old girl.
But it also seems to have happened more than two years
after a state grand jury charged Epstein
with soliciting prostitution.
Again, that was merely a prostitution charge,
not one that involved minors at the time.
And so the book is called The Grifters Club,
Trump, Mar-a-Lago and the Selling of the Presidency.
So the book was designed to attack Donald Trump trump the book was written to attack trump but in the process of
doing the research for it the author established that trump had indeed kicked jeffrey epstein out
of mar-a-lago for being a pervert who was perving on the daughter, the teenage daughter of one of the members of Mar-a-Lago.
So every single time here, what we're seeing is evidence that works in President Trump's favor.
In fact, let me remind you about something. At one point, President Trump was calling for
the release of the Epstein files specifically because he said that he believed that Bill Clinton
was caught in the middle of some of the most vile acts and he wanted those files to be made public
So why would a guy who is in the files who's implicated in them in some sort of nefarious activities?
Seek their release
Come on do the math on this and finally I want to point out one of the most one of the most important elements to this
In terms of if you're thinking about this you you're like, maybe Elon has access to information
that the rest of us don't by virtue of his wealth
and access to power and all of this other stuff.
Just think through this clearly.
The first person I saw to express this yesterday on X
was Chris Bedford and he's great.
And Chris said this within seconds
of the Epstein allegation being made by Elon.
If Biden had that information,
why didn't he release it?
If the Biden administration was sitting on
the ultimate kill shot against President Trump,
he's in the Epstein files that he had abused children,
that he had done something nefarious.
The government was just sitting on that.
You think that the weaponized United States Department of Justice designed to destroy
Donald Trump at all costs wouldn't put that out?
Come on.
Do the math.
Just do the math.
Anyway, so what's happening today is first of all, a number of scurrilous allegations,
including from Elon Musk, as we're watching this break up between them.
They may patch things up.
Now, in just a moment, I want to go over why I'm not that discouraged by this in the end,
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We've got coming up here,
we've got Tommy Pigott from the State Department.
We're going to chat with him about everything going on internationally.
We have a lot of foreign policy stuff going on.
The president just got off the phone with Xi Jinping yesterday.
So a big deal working out with the Chai comms.
We'll see. We'll see. The president's hopeful.
They're set for some visits between the two countries.
But before I get there, the one last thing on Elon Musk and Trump,
Trump's trying to get the big, beautiful bill through
and he's trying to work with the United States Senate
to do that.
Up until yesterday,
Republican senators who were looking to vote
against the bill could try and use Elon Musk's criticism
as cover.
Oh look, a guy who's a part of Trump world
is critical of the bill.
We should rely on,
Elon's right, we should go with Elon.
That ability, that fig leaf has disappeared overnight.
These two men are at odds with one another.
And sure, they may try and patch things up,
but the ability to use Elon Musk as some sort of human shield
for a vote against the big, beautiful bill,
that just evaporated.
That just evaporated.
And Trump voters all over the country
have their eyes wide open right now to these senators and what they're doing and on whose side they stand.
You know, this bill, you know, it's amazing to me.
And this is a bill that is really about the little guy in America.
It's about tax cuts where the biggest benefit falls to the people who make the least, the middle class.
And it's not for the billionaires,
that's the craziest thing.
And it's billionaires like Elon Musk
who are advocating against it right now.
And one last thing on this,
I want you to just keep in mind,
this disproves the lie that somehow President Trump
is beholden to political donors or rich people
or people who are buying them off.
Remember the left has been claiming
that Donald Trump
had tailored his presidency just to give Elon Musk
whatever he wanted.
This was, that Elon Musk had bought the presidency
for his own enrichment.
That's bullshit.
Just look at what's happening.
President Trump was rejecting people to take positions
that Elon Musk wanted in those positions.
That never happens in Washington.
If your biggest donor, typically in a presidency, is saying, hey, I want this guy for that job.
Usually the president, the guy who's taking all the money in the establishment saying,
okay, yeah, whatever you want, sir, whatever you bought up, I'll give you, I'll give you
that Trump doesn't do that.
Even with the biggest donor he has the biggest financial supporter he has, he says, you know
what, I'm going to go a different path.
That's not the Trump the media tells you about.
Not at all.
Not at all.
So we'll, we'll, we'll keep our eyes on this.
This is a, this is a very big and of course rapidly developing story.
But again, I'm not, I'm not sweating it today.
I feel pretty good actually about all this.
It's it's been, it has been wild to watch.
Hey, let me real quickly go over what's going on
with immigration and customs enforcement
and the threats to ICE agents, they're out of control.
We've got Hakeem Jeffries, who is just a full blown lunatic.
He is a, he's the guy who's in the house.
He's the house leader for Democrats.
And this past week, he's been saying that ICE agents are, you know, just like a bunch
of these Democrats, ICE agents are doing something villainous by covering their identities.
Now, remember, ICE agents' threats and assaults to ICE agents have gone up by 400% because
the left is on the hunt for ICE agents.
They want to stop these guys from doing their jobs.
And so let me take you through this.
Cut seven, here's Hakeem Jeffries
condemning federal law enforcement from upholding the law.
You know, Jeffries, you had said after Congresswoman McIver
was, I think you said, physically accosted by ICE officials
that you wanted them identified,
the officials that accosted them.
Have they been identified and what do you expect from,
or do you want the agents that were harassing Jerry Nadler staffers in his district office also identified
was the latest or how are Democrats going to respond to the...
Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide
their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America.
This is not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain.
This is not the 1930s.
And every single one of them,
no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified.
That in fact is the law.
And we're going to make sure
that the American people have the transparency necessary
to hold people accountable
when they're folks who cross the line.
Oh my God, the guy talks slow because he thinks slow.
That's the dial-up Democrat Hakeem Jeffries.
He operates on a 56K modem.
Takes a while for him to get the words out.
But when he's doing it, he's attacking ICE agents
and saying that they're the villains merely
for ejecting foreign nationals out of our country
who've invaded it in the first place.
Now he's not alone in this.
He's not alone in this.
There's a bunch of these guys who are doing the same stunt, doing the same stunt.
Before I get there, I want to get a Justin.
Let me know.
Do we as our guest standing by?
Are we just about ready for that?
Okay, good.
So here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to come back to this because I want to get back to this ICE story. I think it's really important. Hakeem Jeffries is not the
only one to attack ICE agents. And the ICE director himself is now speaking out about
all of this and what needs to be done. I'll get to that coming up with you. I think something
big does need to be done here to resolve all this because they're going to get somebody
killed. They're going to get an ICE agent killed. I don't want that outcome. But Democrats are grooming their base right now for that outcome.
And it is horrifying.
And we can't stand for that. We just can't.
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now we haven't done one of these in a while.
So let's do it now with our next guest,
State Department spokesman Tommy Pigott joins us
on the program.
Tommy. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.
The president just banned travel from a dozen different countries
to the United States.
Just give us the summary of what this is about. Why?
Well, there's kind of two main drivers here.
First, our visa overstays.
And second is that national security imperative.
When it comes to visa overstays, what we're seeing from many of these countries,
and it's all public information here,
if you go to the White House website,
folks can check that out, it goes country by country.
But there's several of these countries
that have huge amounts of visa overstays.
So someone comes here on a visa,
there's that time limit of how long
their visa is applicable for.
And then they're supposed to return home.
So there's a large amount of people
that are those visa overstays, right?
And so that's one element of this,
those people that overstay their visa.
Let me just kind of dwell on that for a moment.
So in other words, the dozen countries that the president selected have some of
the highest rates of illegal aliens from visa overstays.
That's one of the main drivers here. Yes.
So one of the main drivers is those overstays.
But there's also some of these countries that then are not cooperating with us
in terms of accepting their nationals back into their country.
And we've been clear that every country has an obligation to accept their nationals back
into the country that are illegally present in the United States.
So it's kind of that two part there when it comes to people overstaying that visa and
the cooperation or lack thereof we're seeing from some of these countries in terms of accepting
their nationals back into their country.
And then the second main driver of this is that national security concern. When someone applies for a visa, they're supposed to give documents, passports,
other documents to attest for what they're doing, their background. We need to have the ability to
vet people properly. In some of these countries, we just do not have that ability based off of a
lack of essential authority, terrorist concerns, and so that's really common sense. We don't want
people coming into this country that we can't properly bet. And that's part of the broader priority
of all the whole host of these actions
we've seen from this administration
to make sure if someone's coming to this country,
let's make sure they're vetted properly.
Okay, so the countries include Afghanistan,
Myanmar, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea,
Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen.
Also, there's additional travel limits
from Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Yemen. Also, there's additional travel limits from Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo,
Turkmenistan, and Venezuela. Will there be other additional countries added? Is this is is that
likely to occur? Well, look, President's been clear this is a country by country basis. So,
that's we're going to be analyzing this, looking at this. I don't have anything to preview in terms
of announcements that's up to the President and what he decides to do. But even with these countries that have been named, this is an ongoing analysis.
The proclamation makes clear that there's going to be another analysis after 90 days
and then 180 days thereafter. We want to see changes made so that we can properly vet people,
that we see the cooperation when it comes to accepting their nationals back into their
country. So this is a dynamic situation. It's part of that broader picture of making sure
that countries are properly vetted. And ultimately, it's just common sense.
It's a common sense policy to make sure people coming to the country are properly vetted.
So can you envision a scenario where China is added to this list? And the reason I ask that is
because, you know, I know that, you know, the president just announced, I mean, and the State
Department just put out that we're ejecting Chinese foreign nationals
from our university system because of their links to the CCP. It does strike me that the story that
you're telling, obviously, is there's immense concern about Chinese nationals in the country.
Could China ever end up on a list like this? Well, I don't want to speculate or get ahead of the
president in terms of anything like that, but what I can say to that point is this is part of a broader
picture. It's not just this one announcement. We've seen a series of announcement
when it comes to visas from the State Department, from the Trump administration. This is part of a
wide array of actions to make sure people coming in are properly vetted. Student visas, for example,
making sure that people coming in are properly vetted when it comes to those student visas.
But then when they're also, when they're in the United States, if they break our laws,
if there's pro-terrorist activity, we have zero tolerance for that.
They may see that visa be revoked.
If they acted away, that if they had told us before
when they applied for a visa that they were gonna act that way,
if we were gonna reject that visa, if they had been honest,
if they act that way, then when they're in the United States,
they also may see that visa be revoked.
So it's part of that broader initiative here.
Let's properly vet people.
And the bottom line, every sovereign country
has the right to secure its borders
and has the right to determine
who is coming into its country on a visa.
Okay, so in terms of like getting rid of these student visas,
ejecting people from the country, help me out here
because one of the things I'm seeing the left
constantly trying to say about the Trump administration
is, oh, you're just attacking people because of free speech.
You can't remove people because of their free speech.
What's the State Department saying as of their free speech. What is the
State Department saying as it relates to that? What is the Secretary of State saying?
Well, look, ultimately, we have zero tolerance for people that break our laws or that have
pro-terrorist activities. Again, that's common sense. Zero tolerance for that. What we've
seen on universities across the country, especially after October 7th, was vile anti-Semitic rhetoric.
Really vile. A protest is even the wrong word for it,
with much of what we saw in terms of taking over buildings,
blocking students from classrooms.
Unacceptable.
Zero tolerance people here on a visa that support terrorists,
that national security concern really that is,
and that break our laws.
Also, if they act in a way that if we would not
have given them that visa in the first place,
if they had said, I'm going to take over a building
or something like that when they applied for that visa,
if they would have been denied that visa, and then they
go ahead and act that way when they're in the United States, that may also be a reason
to see that visa be revoked.
Ultimately, this is a common sense policy.
Let's make sure that we're not having people that come in.
President Trump said this the other day, actually, let's make sure people that are coming in
love America.
Let's not have let's not have people that support terrorists or break our laws.
We're not zero tolerance for that.
Man. Okay. Let me move to a bigger issue with China, which is the president just had a
conversation with Xi Jinping yesterday. They had a long phone call, according to both countries.
And it sounds like the latest on that, according to the president, is that there's at least one,
maybe two visits scheduled between the two countries. The president set to visit China, he says,
and possibly Xi Jinping also returning the favor
coming here to the United States.
What's the state of play right now
as China and the United States
try and work out their differences?
Well, I think what we're seeing is President Trump saying,
let's rebalance this trading system.
This is again, part of that effort from President Trump
to put the American worker first.
For too long, we have seen the trading system that has ripped off the American worker, that
has disadvantaged the American worker.
And President Trump campaigned on this as a promise made, promise kept to put the American
worker first.
And let's also make sure that we're protecting key national security industries.
There are several industries that we need to have in America for national security concerns
that are key to our national security. So let's
also make sure that we're having those manufacturing. And the
results really speak for itself. We're seeing the rebalancing of
the trading system already. And we're also seeing a
revitalization of a lot of these industries, the economic numbers
are incredibly good. We're seeing wages up, prices down. So
a lot of the concerns raised by people criticizing the president
have not come to fruition. And instead, we're seeing a rebalancing of the trading system
and economy that we're seeing those wages rise.
And this is an effort that president Trump has prioritized
and we're gonna see continue.
Is it a part of the conversation to get China
to buy more American energy and less Iranian energy?
Because I know Iran is obviously what one of the biggest items
right now that the administration is trying to tackle but you know Iran is
selling 90% of all of its oil exports to China 90% in other words China is funding
the terror regime in Iran is it possible to kind of pull off an economic
rebalancing that that were more American energy is sold into China and we take away the financial
resources that Iran has to pursue terror. Well at the State Department we've actually seen actions
when it comes to sanctions as part of that maximum pressure policy to make sure that we're
targeting what's called teapot refineries that are buying Iranian oil. So we're seeing concrete
actions from the State Department's perspective when it comes to that maximum pressure policy.
I don't want to get into the specifics of this dynamic conversation with China.
We'll see exactly what's announced.
And we've already seen some announcements when it comes to that.
But when it comes against the Iranian oil piece of this, we've seen concrete actions
as part of that maximum pressure campaign.
And that's a real distinction from the previous administration, President Trump coming into
office, giving that directive to have that maximum pressure and make sure we're driving revenue
from Iran's illicit oil sales to zero.
And so we've seen actions from the State Department
to do just that.
Okay, one of the big global conflicts
that the president is trying to resolve
is between Russia and Ukraine right now.
And he had another phone call earlier this week
with Vladimir Putin.
He walked away from that call,
saying sounding like he's concerned that the conflict's
going to continue to rage on.
Putin indicated to the president that he needs to conduct
some sort of action, one would assume a counterattack,
as a result of the Ukrainian drone strikes inside of Russia.
It does seem like this is a difficult one to bring it into.
Do you feel like we're making progress towards peace?
How do you assess it?
Well, I think it's a credit to President Trump's leadership
that we've seen the progress we have seen.
If anyone can bring peace to this,
it's under President Trump's leadership.
And we've seen conversations happening.
We've seen engagement from the highest levels
of this administration.
But the president's also been clear as has the secretary
that we're gonna look at actions, not words. And we need to see the parties come to the table. We need to see the parties
really get that ceasefire and then have that negotiated peace. We need to see that. It's up
to the parties. And the president's also been clear, as has the secretary, that we're not going
to fly around the world, have meetings for the sake of scheduling additional meetings. We're not
going to do that. If we're going to go around the world, we stand ready to help in the pursuit of
peace, but we're going to have around the world, we stand ready to help in the pursuit of peace,
but we're going to have constructive meetings
that actually advance this cause,
not just schedule additional meetings later on.
So we've seen that priority from the president.
The progress we have seen,
I believe, is a credit to his leadership.
We're closer to peace than we were
before President Trump took office.
It's up to the parties to see if they can come to the table,
get to that ceasefire, and then that negotiated peace.
Is it true, Tommy, that the United States was unaware
that Ukraine was gonna conduct these drone attacks
inside of Russia, that they never notified
the United States that they were doing that?
Well, I have nothing to preview on that.
I'm not gonna talk about that here.
But ultimately, again, the president's been clear
he wants to see an end to this conflict.
He wants to see this carnage come to an end.
I totally understand.
But as a broader point, Ukraine does owe the United States and the American people a great
amount, right?
Including notification for these types of major military actions, one would think.
At least that's what I would think the average Trump voter would say.
Well, I think ultimately this is part of also when you look at President Trump's critical
minerals deal, the deal that we saw the reinvestment fund announced between Ukraine and the United States, that's actually going to lead to that prosperity
for the American people as well, a deal that benefits both the people of Ukraine and the
United States.
So that's a new approach that we saw for President Trump.
And there's actually steps to make that agreement operational just this past week, the Treasury
Department talking about that.
So we are seeing that new approach from President Trump.
And I think a broader point on that when we're looking at the world in general,
when we're looking at allies, we're looking at NATO, for example, we're looking at other situations,
we need to see burden sharing. And what that actually happens when you have that burden sharing
leads to stronger alliances, stronger bilateral relationships that are more balanced
and actually allows us to pursue those common interests more effectively.
Okay. And then Gaza, let's just, you know, what's the latest here on trying to bring a conclusion there?
Because the president obviously very invested
in both of these conflicts, trying to negotiate a peace
and trying to help out Israel
and getting the hostages released.
What should we be paying attention to in that conflict?
Well, look, what we've seen from the administration here
is that we stand with Israel and we stand for peace.
And we've seen that engagement from the highest levels of the administration on this issue
as well.
What it comes down to is Hamas bears sole responsibility for this conflict.
Hamas, the brutality we saw on October 7th, their actions since then, we need to see the
hostages released.
We demand that they are released immediately.
We've seen some hostages be released.
President Trump welcoming home, for example, Edan Alexander. We've seen that engagement. Another part of this is trying to get aid into
Gaza to help the people there without it falling into the hands of Hamas, without it being stolen
by terrorists. We've seen creative solutions in that regard. So this is really another area where
we need to see a long-term where Hamas cannot continue to exist. Israel has a right to defend
itself. We've seen that engagement there. And when it comes to issues like aid, for example,
we have seen those creative solutions
that have allowed 9 million meals nearly
to go to the people of Gaza
without it being stolen by Hamas.
Okay, all right, Tommy Pigott,
thank you very much for joining us,
spokesman for the State Department.
Good to get an update on that.
I hope you come back sometime, sir.
Appreciate you.
All right, thanks for having me on, thank you.
That's Tommy Pigott, the principal deputy spokesman
at the Department of State. So yeah, I still think, you know, obviously, he's got to represent,
of course, you know, what they can and can't say right now is they the State Department,
especially is in the realm of navigating all these sensitive diplomatic conversations. I do
think that Ukraine owes us everything in the world, including notification ahead of a major
attack inside of Russian soil. That's the kind of thing that they owe to the president of the So Ukraine owes us everything in the world, including notification ahead of a major attack
inside of Russian soil.
That's the kind of thing that they owe
to the president of the United States,
given the fact that the United States
has sponsored this work, that side of it.
And so that just strikes me as a very, very big deal.
Back here domestically,
we do have a lot of foreign nationals right here
in the United States that we're trying to get rid of.
And in order to do that,
well, we've got ICE agents doing that hard work.
Right now, the big, beautiful bill
is looking to double the size of the ICE agents,
the force of ICE agents,
in order to get all these people out of the country.
Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem and Tom Homan,
they wanna start deporting
at least 3,000 illegal aliens a day.
And even that is just about a million a year.
You and I both want a lot more than that.
They tell us that 20 million came in under Biden.
So we've got to get aggressive and quickly.
But this is a start.
These ICE agents are out there doing this job day in day out,
night in night out.
And yet they're being attacked by the left.
I already played for you.
Hakeem Jeffries attacking these ICE agents, these
brave ICE agents who are doing this at risk to themselves. And he's not alone. Boston
Mayor Michelle Wu is also one of the ghouls who is attacking the ICE agents. Take a look,
cut eight in what she said this week. I don't know of any police department that routinely wears masks.
We know that there are other groups that routinely wear masks.
NSC 131 routinely wears masks.
Mayor, just to clarify, are you comparing ICE, you said to NSC 131, the neo-Nazi group,
are you comparing them to a neo-Nazi group?
What I said is that Boston police
and no police department that I know of at the local level
routinely wears masks.
She's lying.
She's lying.
Of course cops wear masks in dangerous situations
where there are personal threats to them
and their family as a result.
People who are involved with going after cartels
and dangerous drug operations and dangerous gang rings.
Yeah, they wear masks. They will cover up their faces explicitly so that they can protect themselves
and their families, not so that they can break laws. So she's saying these guys are just like
neo-Nazis and this is the same language game the left always plays. They say our opponents are
Nazis, which means that you can stop them by any means necessary. Now, they won't say all that language out loud, but that's the permission slip
that they're handing to the most radical elements of their base.
That guy's a Nazi.
What do we do to Nazis?
The threat hangs heavy over the heads of these law enforcement agents.
That's just true.
Shame on her.
Congressman Dan Goldman of New York, the Levi Strauss here
just pulled the same stunt, cut nine.
Take a look at this.
This is Gestapo-like behavior
where plain clothes officers wearing masks
are terrorizing immigrants who are doing the right thing
by going to court, following up
on their immigration proceedings,
and trying to come into this country lawfully,
which is through asylum.
I'm also, as a Jew, very familiar
with the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
Oh my God. And other forms of secret law enforcement in Russia and elsewhere that used fear and
intimidation and under the cover of night, under the cover of masks in order to terrorize
people that they did not like.
It's so disgraceful.
And by the way, what he's describing
is the behavior of the left in the United States.
We saw it, unfortunately,
in some of its most vile forms in 2020,
but hasn't stopped since then.
We've seen attacks on crisis pregnancy centers
and all sorts of Americans and police officers
and official government buildings,
the courthouses and police precincts burned to the ground,
small businesses burned down, all done by lefties wearing masks, concealing their identity in order
to commit crimes. That's what Dan Goldman is describing. But he goes further than that. He
says that these ICE agents are like the Gestapo. And then he invokes his own identity, says as a
Jew, I know what this is. I know what this is. You're saying they're Nazis.
Dan Goldman, you utter scumbag.
You understand what you're doing.
You know what you're doing.
These guys are in the midst
of trying to get an ICE agent killed.
And if that occurs, and God willing, it doesn't,
but if that occurs, blood will be on their hands for this.
occurs, blood will be on their hands for this.
Tim Walls, tampon Tim Walls pulled the same garbage recently. He was speaking at a commencement address where he decided to weave in that detail that he thinks
ICE agents are Nazis. Take a look here, cut 10 years, Tim Walls doing this.
Donald Trump's modern day Goscapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
They're in unmarked vans wearing masks, being shipped off to foreign torture dungeons, no
chance to mount a defense, not even a chance to kiss a loved one goodbye, just grabbed
up by masked agents, shoved into those vans and disappeared.
To be clear, there's no way for us to know whether they were actually criminals or not
because they refused to give them a trial. We're supposed to just take their word for it. Yeah, can you imagine going to your graduation
and then you're served up that packet of lies right there on stage rather than a forward-looking
vision for the future rather than a rearward-looking appreciation for all you've accomplished as you
reach the graduation phase you get tampons, the guy who waves with two hands,
standing on a stage saying that ICE, yeah, they're terrorists.
They're Nazis.
What an utter disgrace that guy is.
Thank the good Lord that he is nowhere near the White House.
And I feel bad for the people of Minnesota that he's their governor.
He shouldn't be.
But here you have Democrat after Democrat, leader after leader.
As far as leaders of the party, Hakeem Jeffries, he's the leader of the
Democrats in the house and Tim Walls may as well be one of their top leaders.
He was just on the near the top of the ticket right there behind Kamala Harris.
Pulling the same crap.
ICE, Nazis.
They're going to get somebody killed.
And the ICE director knows this.
The acting ICE director, Todd Lyons,
has just released a statement on all of this,
saying this needs to stop and now cut six.
Take a look. Here's Todd Lyons saying all of that.
My officers and agents walk into danger so other people can see safely at night, so kids
can make it to school safely and play outside.
So while it's easy to be an armchair quarterback and make up talking points that get activists
riled up, the bottom line is my officers and agents are out there protecting the same people
who are threatening their safety.
Law enforcement's common sense.
Politicians need to stop putting my people in
danger. I'm not asking them to stop. I'm demanding that they stop. Here's what I have to say to
Boston Mayor Michelle Wu, Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, and anyone else stirring up the outrage
about what ICE does. These are real people with real families, you're hurting, with your ridiculous
rhetoric and inflammatory comments. And it's time to remember that.
It's time to remember that I'm not asking.
I'm demanding.
He says, now I've said it before, but I'll reiterate here.
There are, there's, there are some other actions that probably
should be taken immediately.
Um, in the house speaker, Mike Johnson should pursue at the very
least a censure of Hakeem
Jeffrey's, a censure to condemn him officially for the calling out the base, the radical
left-wing base against ICE.
You're playing with fire when you do this.
Remember, among these lefties in the United States, we have an assassination culture going on right now, a very dangerous one.
There was a study out of Rutgers university earlier this year
that found that lefties by majority could justify the
assassination of the president of the United States, Donald
Trump by a majority and just under a majority at that point
when they all hated Elon, although now they're pining for
him to come back to their party.
When they hated Elon, just under 50% of lefties said
that they would be able to justify the assassination
of Elon Musk.
This is not a party that is of sound mind right now.
This is not a party of sound mind.
Teddy Roosevelt was once shot ahead of giving a speech.
He gave the speech anyway with a bullet in his chest.
And when he gave that speech,
one of the first things he said
was that his political opponents were inflaming weak minds.
And that's what led to the attack on him.
He said it just moments after being shot.
And that's what's happening here.
Our political opponents are inflaming weak minds
to take vicious actions
We've seen it before
We saw it against the president of the United States
And in particular the second would-be assassin of President Trump Ryan Ruth
Who was lying in wait in those bushes in Mar-a-Lago or as that's not a Mar-a-Lago but instead in Florida at that golf course
Lying in wait there,
he had expressed all over his social media account
that he thought that democracy was on the ballot.
He was using the language that the White House
kept putting out through Joe Biden's elderly mouth.
He was saying the kinds of things
that you saw Joe Biden read off the teleprompter when
he gave that vile speech in Philadelphia bathed in blood red light and he exploited the United
States Marines who they put behind him to make it like seem like he was on the side
of virtue was grotesque.
What Biden did and Ryan Ruth reiterated all of that in his social media postings ahead of his attempt
to assassinate the president of the United States.
The left is grooming its base into believing
that a by any means necessary approach
is the only way they can quote save the country.
And by any means necessary means some of the most dangerous
possible things you can imagine.
So it is incumbent, I think right now on Republican members of Congress to stand up for ICE agents.
Stand up for them. Stand up for them by holding accountable the people who are imperiling them right now.
That includes elected members of Congress, Democrats.
Additionally, stand up for them if you're in the United States Senate by getting these ICE agents, the funding and the logistical support, everything that they need to do their jobs, to get these
illegal aliens out of the country. The real threat to these communities are not ICE agents who are
doing their jobs. They're people who would murder people like Lakin Riley or Jocelyn Nungare,
who are raping women here in the United States, who are leading human and sex trafficking rings
here in the United States,
who are committing these grotesque acts of violence
and bringing drugs into our communities,
it's enough, it's enough.
Get them out, get them out.
And so supporting ICE agents does that
because those guys are actually doing the real work
and they deserve our gratitude for that.
Not that venom that's being spit at them
by the left right now.
It's too much. It's much too much. Hey, a lot of people have been asking me for Major
to stop by the studio. I've got Major here in studio with me. And let's see, let's see,
Allison dropped them off every so we plan it out. You know, it's like, it's like, you
know, Major does want to hang out in the studio the whole time. He likes he likes running
around planning his face against the windows,
looking for squirrels and then barking at them.
But at some point in this show, Allison brings,
just as our guest was wrapping up,
brings a major by and opens the door.
So let me see her.
Major, come here, buddy.
Come here.
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Place.
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Good boy.
Look at that.
There's Major.
You got the Major cam up and running today, buddy.
I know everyone's been asking,
and there's some people in the chat who said,
that'll make my week if Major stops by.
It always makes my week when I've got Major in the house.
And I do have one other dog.
We have Raina who I've shown pictures before.
Raina's a barker.
Raina is a very fidgety barker.
Both of them are rescues.
Major is a great dog and I got him at a very young age.
We did most of the training with him.
Raina we got a lot later on.
She was apparently rescued in Egypt.
And so there's international rescues
and they brought her over.
And while she was in Egypt, she had the tip of her tail cut off.
She had to be treated like gutter garbage.
She's got all sorts of trauma.
So even when we pet her, she's very skittish.
She runs off.
So we're constantly working with her,
trying to work through all that and get her up to speed.
But Major's great.
Major's my steady hand here.
And so he's been a total upgrade to the whole family.
He brings a lot of energy to the house.
And I can't recommend dogs enough, guys.
I can't recommend these dogs enough.
They really bring a lot of spirit to the house.
And it's a wonderful treat to have him here.
And it's a wonderful treat to have you with me.
I know this has been an experience for all of us.
It was just a couple short months ago,
if you can even believe it, it was what?
March 17th that we started all of this
when Dan Bongino handed over the reins and said,
hey, I want Vince to do this.
I've got to run off and be the deputy director of the FBI.
And I can't tell you how grateful I am to him
and how enamored I've become with this audience.
You guys have just been phenomenal.
I love your messages.
I love your encouragement.
I love your critiques.
I love it all.
And I think we're doing good things.
This podcast in particular, we've made a really big impact.
We've put up really, really big numbers
with each passing month.
And that's thanks to your support for sure.
And let me add that the guys who make this possible,
this show possible, that includes, you know,
Guy and Justin and Andy and Jasmine,
just the whole crew that make this possible.
I can't thank them enough for how smooth
and wonderful this has all been.
I mean, it's been, you know,
we hit our hiccups
from time to time, but who doesn't?
It's just been very, very cool.
And I'm over the moon about it.
So I thank God for all these people.
I thank God for you.
And before I check out here,
I do want to note that today is D-Day.
It's the anniversary of D-Day.
And if you ever feel like your life is tough,
you ever feel like, you know,
things are difficult to surmount or to overcome?
Just check out what the guys did landing
on the beaches in Normandy.
That is some of the most amazing,
the most amazing expression of American courage
any of us will ever see.
And so it's worth reflecting on their sacrifice today.
Thank you.
Thank you to everyone who saved the world.
All right, God bless you. I hope you have a fantastic weekend.
I appreciate you joining me for another episode of Vince.