The Dan Bongino Show - The Bizarre Connection In The CEO Murder Case (Ep. 2385)

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

A suspect in the CEO murder case has been apprehended and the circumstances are ominous, to say the least. In this episode, I'll cover the investigation and reactions to this case, as well as the viol...ent left's reactions to the Daniel Penny verdict. Veteran Daniel Penny is acquitted in NYC subway chokehold case over Jordan Neely’s death Family of UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect says they are 'shocked' by son's arrest Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host Dan Bongino. Man, if you missed the radio show yesterday, you missed a moment, like a moment on live radio. I mean, it's really rare when you do 20 hours of content a week live, you know, four hours a day, pod radio. When you do 20 hours live a week, it's really rare to be shocked.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We've had terror attacks happen on the news, elections, everything, but I was really stunned that if you were listening or watching a radio show on Rumble, you saw the moment when the United healthcare CEO alleged the suspect in the case Mangione was locked up. You saw like a light bulb moment my head. I was really stunned. This is like the craziest connection ever. I got a story for you man. It's going to blow your mind. I promise. This is really weird. Beam's Cyber Monday sale's
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Starting point is 00:02:45 Who was on the radio show yesterday when this story broke? Folks, the UnitedHealthcare CEO being assassinated. They have a suspect. Again, everybody's entitled to due process. I want to see the facts in the case pan out in a court case. However, there has been an arrest made, and the suspect is a Luigi Mangione I'm gonna get this story in more detail later in the show. I just want to put this out first
Starting point is 00:03:10 So the second I see this guy's Face in that infamous picture of him in the back of the cab this suspect now Luigi Mangione Folks I said to myself days ago, gosh, this guy really looks familiar. And I'm thinking to myself, I and I could not make the connection because it wasn't like it looked familiar. Like it was like, it looked like your brother or sister or someone you'd recognize the face right away. But the face just looks so familiar to me. And I'm thinking, what the hell is going on?
Starting point is 00:03:46 So long story short, yesterday, I recognized the last name, Mangione, and I thought, there's no relation to the Mangione family in up in the Baltimore kind of area, Maryland. And it turns out that there was. So this statement was put out, I'll get to who they are here in a second, you'll see the connection to Mangione family on Luigi Mangione. Unfortunately, we can't comment on news reports regarding Luigi. We only know what we've read in the media, the family shocked and devastated by Luigi's arrest. We're devastated by the news,
Starting point is 00:04:21 the Mangione family, and they offer prayers for Brian Thompson. the Mangione family and they offer prayers for Brian Thompson. Folks, I got my start in radio. You have to be like the P1 of P1s to know this. I got my start in radio at a radio station in Baltimore, not Baltimore City, Baltimore County. The radio station was owned by the Mangione family and Nino Mangione, who's now a delegate in Maryland, who by the way, is a wonderful, amazing guy. He has absolutely nothing to do. He's a Republican state delegate. He is a patriot. He I cannot attest in any greater way to this man's character. He is a genuinely good and decent human being. But I've known Nino a long time. I basically worked up, I wasn't a full-time employee, but I was kind of like their regular
Starting point is 00:05:14 guest host. That's how I got my start in radio. I've known Nino forever. And obviously they're cousins and they look alike. And that's, I was so shocked by it on the air because it really, this thing got personal really fast. To the Mangione family, to the Thompson family, this is just an unspeakable, unimaginable tragedy.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But the Mangione family has been going through a lot. They obviously have nothing at all to do with this. And there were a lot of people harassing them now and it really is disgusting. But I'm sorry folks, but this is just a story took a real personal turn for me. I'm gonna get to more of it later. It is a big news story, but a lot happened yesterday.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We had the Daniel Penny case verdict come down as well. Let me just throw out in advance because the bottom line up front matters. Folks, this was not justice. I've heard a couple people and I'd love to hear how you feel in the chat on this. I think a lot of you are going to agree with me. I heard a lot of legal analysts on cable news channels, Fox and elsewhere, and they were saying, you know, oh, well, worked and you know justice he got off the system didn't work I'm really sorry. I don't mean to be a jerk about it I'm not trying to be a tool or a devil's advocate for no good reason, but how is this the system working?
Starting point is 00:06:35 This is the kind of case where I genuinely believe if it was in my county in Florida Where your right to defend yourself against a serious physical injury or death, right? The guy was threatening to kill people. He said, someone is going to die. If this was my County in Florida, you're not only not arrested, the cops come up, hey man, thanks for defending yourself and your neighbors against this threat. You know, the key part of the court case with the Daniel Penny case, the subway, of course we're talking about the subway incident with Jordan Neely, is when the prosecutor asks Daniel Penny
Starting point is 00:07:15 or the defense asks him, at what point did you think your life was in danger? And he says, when Jordan Neely said someone's gonna die today, like what else do you need to hear? This was not justice. Yeah, who just said that? Dobie won Kenobi, you must be friends with Guy.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Dobie won Kenobi. Said there shouldn't have been a trial at all. Ladies and gentlemen, justice delayed is justice denied. I hate cliches and tropes, but it's true. Justice delayed is justice denied. I hate cliches and tropes, but it's true. Justice delayed is not justice. You've taken away time, money, you've taken away this guy's life, you've taken his, you know, his money, his sanity, like everything. The process is the punishment. This isn't justice. Now, thank the Lord,
Starting point is 00:08:04 and I'm not using his name in vain that Penny when was when he was subjected to this ridiculous freaking show trial for defending people on that train who thanked him by the way. Thankfully he was acquitted. He was not declared innocent by the way the language matters. There's no such thing as innocent. He was declared declared innocent by the way, the language matters. There's no such thing as innocent. He was declared not guilty. Those are not the same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That's liberal terminology. He wasn't innocent. Nobody's innocent, dumbass. Innocent. We talk about innocent. He's not guilty. There's a difference. Here was Daniel Penny in a local bar afterwards celebrating.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And of course, the hustlers are trying to the race hustlers already trying to start a race riot over this thing But I'm gonna tell you where the what the difference between now and the George Floyd Situation was obviously the circumstances are completely entirely different 180 degrees but There's a difference now in the political environment to watch Daniel Penny first check this out What's up together How's it going how's it feel feels great he's finally got the justice he's deserved now He's finally got the justice he's deserved. Now again, he finally got the justice he deserved, but justice delayed his justice and I let
Starting point is 00:09:29 me throw another curveball at you here. He's now subject to a civil trial as well. He could lose that civil trial. Remember the standard of guilt in a criminal trial is beyond any beyond a reasonable doubt. The standard in a civil trial is not beyond the reasonable doubt. It's preponderance of evidence. Therefore jurors in these civil trials and judges are intimately familiar with the fact that the penalty is not you going to jail. The penalty is a financial one. And given that it's only the weight of the evidence preponderance of the evidence
Starting point is 00:10:01 in a civil trial, you're far more likely to lose. In other words, folks, this guy can still get bankrupted for doing nothing more than defending a bunch of people on a train against the guy who said someone's going to get killed, someone's going to die. This would this man should have been celebrated as a hero. Here's Hawk Newsome, the guy brought up yesterday. I mean a nothing but a cheap Carnival barking asshole life loser chump and coward. I'm calling you that Hawk to your face right now through this screen. You're a chump and a coward.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You've always been I've seen guys like you my entire life. You're a chump. Hawk Newsome is a grifter loser. This is one of the co-founders of BLM. He is desperate to agitate a racial issue around the case, although there isn't one. There were black men helping Daniel Penny restrain Jordan Neely. Here's Hawk Newsome yesterday. I don't understand how this guy doesn't get arrested for this stuff. I mean if this isn't close to incitement I don't know what is and at some point he appeared to imply like a threat towards Daniel Penny too. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Everybody else has vigilantes. We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us? Right. I'm tired. Tired. I know you're looking for us to be like, oh and march go and march no this weekend i want you to hold a community event everywhere from the bronx to houston to seattle to florida black people whole community event and talk about what you need bro shut your mouth. You're a punk. You're a punk.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You're a punk. Just shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. You're a piece of shit. You always have been. You're a grifter and a loser with no life skills. Go get a job, loser. Get a job.
Starting point is 00:12:20 This has nothing to do with race. You're a two bit hustler trying to gin up some racial agitation so you can profit off it. You're a piece of shit. You know exactly what you're doing. Let me quote him. People want to jump up and choke us. Who the hell is jumping up and choking us. Here's an easy way to avoid getting restrained at led to
Starting point is 00:12:48 an incident like this. Don't go in a train car and tell people someone's gonna die. Hawk, dumbass. There's an easy way, dumbass, to avoid us people popping up as if it was a random guy Who just picked this guy out of hey, let's choke a guy out Folks I am so sick these bullshit agitators and people afraid to call him out You understand this it doesn't matter what you say Asshole commie scum on the left are going to call you a racist no matter what. It doesn't matter that it's not true. Just eliminate it from the diet.
Starting point is 00:13:33 It doesn't matter. They are going to call you a racist no matter what. That's why people are afraid to call this asshole out. Oh my gosh, I don't want to be called a racist. They're going to call you one anyway. They call everybody asshole out. Oh my gosh, I don't want to be called a racist. They're gonna call you one anyway. They call everybody a racist. It's how they make money. It's the grift. And then we get into testimonials. Oh, racist. I've got to stop. Just think it's not just ignore it and condemn this asshole for what he is. A chump and a punk and a zero. There's too many cowards folks in the political movement on the swampy right. Oh just let the
Starting point is 00:14:17 let them talk you know we don't want to be called the racist. Bullshit you heard what he said. Making it up like people are just randomly choking out black men in the street you understand this is what leads to this mass perception of violent systemic racism around that's causing the division in our society why will we never heal as a society whatever trope you want to throw out there because a-holes like this guy don't want you to. Folks don't hold your breath by the way waiting for the commie left to condemn this piece of garbage. Don't because it's never going to happen. They love the agitation. They love it. Here's MSNBC yesterday making one of the dumbest comparisons you will ever see on cable news
Starting point is 00:15:08 and given MSNBC and CNN's history that's saying a lot comparing this case of Daniel Penny, a hero, a guy who should be given the one of these presidential medals at the White House the second Trump gets in there. That's what I would do. A hero who defended people's lives when other people would have sat on their ass and let this guy punch another woman in the face or something. You see this guy's arrest history. Here's MSNBC comparing this case to OJ. Yeah, to OJ. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Breaking news here. Daniel Penny found not guilty, but Lisa, we also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed, I believe a civil suit in this case as well. Does the verdict in this case impact that? Not necessarily. I mean, we, the law is rife with examples of people who are acquitted in criminal cases and yet find justice with respect to civil accountability. I think the best example of that is with respect to Fred Goldman's family, Fred Goldman, I'm sorry, Ron Goldman being the man who was murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson,
Starting point is 00:16:13 even though OJ Simpson was never found criminally guilty for those two murders, Fred Goldman, the father, along with his daughter, then sued OJ Simpson civilly and won a fairly large verdict. Folks, division, divide, and conquer is the game. It's the only recipe they have in the playbook. And of course, the media is gonna pour gallons of gasoline on this fire because this is what they do.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Here's the AP, breaking, Daniel Penny, the veteran who used to chokehold on subway rider Jordan Neely has been acquitted and Neely says subway rider, leaving out the fact that they man was extensive criminal history was talking about someone dying on the train car. These people profit off of racial agitation folks and I'm telling you right now this show has absolutely no time for it. We're the media now and it's going to stop here. We're going to put a period at the end of these freaking sentences. We're not going to let it happen. I want to move on to back to this Mangione case in a minute because this United Healthcare CEO case folks this is really dangerous stuff. In addition to people like Hawk Newsome, coward, chump, loser, and the media stoking
Starting point is 00:17:31 the flames here and trying to cause division. They are doing the same thing with the Mangione case, unbelievably trying to make a hero out of a guy, a suspect at this point, who shot a guy and murdered him in the middle of the street. But they're leaving out completely, completely the leftist out of the narrative. Well, the health care systems broke. You broke it, assholes. And now there's a murder over it. And what? You're blaming the health care executives over it. I thought you were fixing health care with Obamacare now
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's led to a murder and oh you wipe your hands of it. No, no not here Wait till you see these little receipts coming up Take a quick break and get back to the story of the man she owns again This thing has been got personal for me real quick folks open an IRA in gold with birch gold And you can get free silver shipped directly to your home. It's the most wonderful time of the year. The only time of the year that Birch Gold gives away a free one ounce Silver Eagle for every $5,000 purchased. And here's the best part. You don't have to pay a penny out of pocket. Simply convert an existing
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Starting point is 00:19:27 the suspect in the healthcare killer case. Folks, when I grew up in New York, there was a guy who was a pretty good reporter locally. He works at CNN right now, which is probably not the best thing to put on your resume. However, the reason I'm playing this clip from CNN is this guy, John Miller. I feel like I've known this guy forever.
Starting point is 00:19:45 He was an NBC, local, the local NBC affiliate in New York. So if you grew up in New York City, this guy covered the mob. He covered the commission trial. He covered everything. Long story short is he's on CNN, but he's pretty good with this crime stuff. Here's a segment on CNN that again points to the fact that I told you last week, the reason I didn't apply the Bongino rule to this story. This was clearly not a professional assassin, folks.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Professional assassins don't want to get caught. They don't leave messages. The message is the dead body. And they don't go to a McDonald's in Altoona if you're a professional assassin and with the actual you know suspected murder weapon and a fake driver's license you use to check in. I mean I'm not giving anybody bad guy tips. I think it's fairly obvious. You get rid of the evidence.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You don't keep it on you. This was not a professional hit. There's something going on here folks. There's a bigger story. Listen to Miller on CNN with the details of this, how this guy got caught, and think in your head, why didn't he discard the evidence? Check this out.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So, Dana, this starts as a very routine day in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, which has like three McDonald's. But an employee there looks at this person and has been seeing on CNN and everywhere else these photos from the NYPD of this masked person with the hood where they're saying look beyond New York because we think the person has left the city and she believes that this person resembles the photos that have been put out. She calls
Starting point is 00:21:20 911 gets the Altoona PD they They respond to the McDonald's. They engage this individual. And as they get him to identify himself and look through things, they find a gun. They find a silencer. They find multiple false IDs. And when they begin to compare those notes with police in New York, they find out that one of those IDs matches the name, perhaps even the one we're looking at, that he used a fake New Jersey driver's license to check
Starting point is 00:21:50 into that hostel in upper Manhattan. So along with all of that, there are some documents that the police said seem to be relevant to this case. I think we would stop short right now because we don't have enough information of calling that a manifesto. But we are told by investigators they believe he's carrying documents that may relate to motive. Folks, there's something not right about this case.
Starting point is 00:22:19 There's something not right about every case, so I don't want to be overly dramatic, having done criminal investigative work for most of my young adult life. But it's almost as if the guy took pains not to get caught, only to take pains later to get caught. Is it some kind of mental breakdown issue? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:40 But the suspect in the case to use a 3D printed firearm, a suppressor, and then to exit the crime scene and then be discovered with the fake ID you used to check into a hostel along with the firearm and the suppressor, it doesn't make any sense. sense. Now, one thing a couple people have said to me is, how do you think that the McDonald's employee recognize this guy, given that some of the pictures are surfaced, and you can barely see his face, he's only moving the mask to drink something. Folks, I think the mask, ironically, it sounds kind of backwards. But the face mask is probably what elicited suspicion. Because if this was done during during COVID when everybody was wearing face masks
Starting point is 00:23:27 I don't think it would be that big of a deal. However You still see people wearing them But not that often my point is like that may have actually drawn attention to him and someone may have said my gosh That's kind of weird that looks a little bit like that guy and pulled up the picture you got to remember this isn't 50 years ago where someone's got to go to a police station and pull a be on the lookout for sign down. All you got to do is pull up ex Twitter, right and pull up United Healthcare CEO suspect and you look in while the guy's right in front of you. So I wouldn't put too much weight into that, but there's definitely something going on here
Starting point is 00:24:05 that's really strange. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a connection, if later on it turns out that there's some kind of, maybe a third party involved. I wouldn't be stunned is what I'm talking about. Maybe an enabler or someone else. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not telling you that that's a fact,
Starting point is 00:24:24 that you should take it to the bank and cash the check. Just this case seems really off. It seems to me like a lot of pains were taken to not get caught, only to take pains later to get caught. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Now, this healthcare case, this United Healthcare CEO, the liberal narrative on this thing is disgusting, immoral, evil, demonic,
Starting point is 00:24:46 and unethical. We don't shoot people dead in the middle of the street because we don't like their business decisions. Ladies and gentlemen, I've got beefs with a lot of companies. I engaged in a construction project recently. It didn't go as planned. I promise you at no point ever for a microsecond that I think, maybe I should get a suppressor and murder a guy in the middle of the street. That did not come up. Not a potential solution to the problem. We don't do that. I don't think anybody needs a lecture. But what I find really odd about this case is the left making a hero out of this suspect in the case is they're avoiding the fact that it's the left that took over health care under Obama and told us this would
Starting point is 00:25:33 fix all the health care problems. Now the health care system is even worse to the point where they're shooting people and murdering them in the streets and the left is acting like they have no skin in this game at all. You got to read this article by Alyssa Finley. I cited it yesterday but didn't get into the details. It's called the United Healthcare case and the Obamacare con. I thought Obamacare was going to fix all this. Left is like healthcare sucks we got to start shooting people in the street.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Really? A Gallup survey released Friday affirms the sentiment, finding only 44% of Americans rate US healthcare as good or excellent, down from 62% when Democrats passed Obamacare in 2010. Wait, leave this up. So just to be clear, left-wing assholes who wanna murder people in the street over healthcare, since you dipshits took over healthcare in 2010, people who think healthcare is good
Starting point is 00:26:30 or excellent dropped by almost 20 points? A mere 28% rate the country's insurance coverage highly, an 11-point decline. Obamacare may rank as the biggest political bait and switch in history. No. Here, remember Barack Obama's promise? If you like your health care plan, you can keep your doctor and your health care plan. Sorry. How about his claim that people with pre existing conditions would be protected? That's not true. Here's the biggest howler. Health care would become more affordable. Really throw the next one up. Healthcare is more affordable? The US is now spending $2 trillion more on healthcare
Starting point is 00:27:09 than in 2010. Two trillion more. Dan, I thought Obamacare's more, more. We're paying two trillion more. Well, at least we're healthier, right Justin? Justin says, no, Dan, read on. It's your clip. Yet Americans aren't healthier.
Starting point is 00:27:28 A new paper by Paragon Health Institute observes that mortality rates from 25 to 64-year-olds for major medical causes climbed between 2009 and 2019, when basically Obamacare was passed. So just to be clear Left-wing dipshits we need to murder people in the street because healthcare sucks. It sucks because of you idiots We're spending more money. We're not as healthy fewer people like their healthcare and only 11% of people are satisfied with their insurance
Starting point is 00:28:01 Right now read the data all since Obamacare passed. This is why I absolutely hate leftists. They go and they throw a shit grenade in the tent and then they complain it stinks in there. I am so sick of these assholes and you should be too. these assholes and you should be too. Want to see the most disgusting clip? Taylor Lorenz, the biggest demon I have ever seen in the communist movement and dumb as a box of rocks. Here's this demon piece of human garbage on the Piers Morgan show, again reiterating that she feels joy around the circumstances of the UnitedHealthcare CEO murder. Joy!
Starting point is 00:28:52 Check this out. I do believe in the sanctity of life and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, because it feels like- Joy? Seriously? I mean- Joy demands execution. I guess I would say, maybe not joy, but certainly not, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like... Joy? Seriously? Joy in a man's execution? Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Because again, this is a man responsible for death. How come this makes you joyful? This guy's a husband, he's a father, and he's being gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why is that making you joyful? So are the tens of thousands of Americans that have been murdered. So are the tens of thousands of Americans that are being murdered. So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push a policy of denying care to the most
Starting point is 00:29:35 vulnerable people. And the many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health care. So should they all be killed then? Should cases die because of lack of health care. So should they all be killed then? Should they all be killed, these health care executives? Would that make you even more joyful? No, that would not.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Why not? Why are you laughing? I'm going to tell you something. It's a live show, I mean, but I'm afraid I'm going to say something really bad and I really should, I really should kind of take a break a second. No, I mean it. I'm not trying to be silly folks. This woman is a disgusting piece of human waste. No respectable human being should ever have this woman on the air or near their outlet ever again.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Forget all of the politics what I just told you that scum like Taylor Lorenz pushing for things like Obamacare that destroyed a lot of these health care companies that then had to consolidate to stay alive because Obamacare destroyed it. Forget that for a second. If this guy was the worst demon on earth, and there are a lot of bad business people, folks, I've been screwed over by a lot of them. You can sue them. You have a court system.
Starting point is 00:31:03 We have due process. We are a republic. This is not, this is not the guillotine in France, assholes on the left. I've got a lot of beefs with Joe Biden, politicians, business people, and everyone else. They don't deserve to be murdered in the street.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You're watching the moral decay of America. This woman should never ever be put in front of an audience again. She is dangerous. She is legitimately dangerous. And I absolutely believe by our own standards this crying whiny loser That that is an actual incitement to violence providing any Landing of that plane as if this was somehow not an evil demonic act murdering someone in the middle of the street Bullshit
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Starting point is 00:35:12 Ladies and gentlemen, what's policy? If you know the question, you know the answer. Policy's policy. No, it isn't. People are policy. People are policy. If you don't have the right people, it doesn't matter what the policy is. Joe Biden showed us that with the student loan forgiveness, he was told not to do multiple
Starting point is 00:35:31 times and a number of environmental things he did. Here's a quick clip of John Cornyn. John Cornyn is definitely on the rhino side of the spectrum. There's no doubt about that. He is a senator from Texas. However, he is a respected member of the Senate by his colleagues. So we need these guys to plus one. I don't get emotional about this, folks.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You shouldn't either. We need their votes to get these people through. Here he is at least signaling that Cash Patel shouldn't have any problems getting through. We'll see. Keep the heat on. Don't back down for a second. But we got to listen to what these guys are saying. This is a short clip. Check this out
Starting point is 00:36:09 For FBI director, we still don't know what director raise plans are but Eventually, I assume that mr. Patel will be confirmed as the next FBI director Again folks these guys are, this guy's not one of these MAGA people, there's no doubt about it. However, I'd rather have this guy on board than not. Don't get emotional about it. Plus one, minus one.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Think of it like a spreadsheet. Be transactional like Trump is and you won't lose. You start getting emotional, then we start to lose the tactical edge. Folks, one of the worst things you can do in a fight or anywhere else, I spent a lot of time on the mats and whatever, who cares? I'm not trying to pretend to be tough. Your kid sister could beat me up right now in my osteoarthritis. But one thing that I'll tell you is you don't get emotional. The minute you start
Starting point is 00:36:57 getting mad, you start to breathe heavy. Don't get emotional. Stay tactical. Aisha Hosni put out this tweet. She's at Fox. She knows really well about this. She puts out, Joni Ernst put out a statement on Hegseth. Joni Ernst has been a huge obstacle towards Pete Hegseth getting in there as the defense secretary. I don't know why Joni Ernst decided to entirely nuke her entire career.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I have no idea, but I'm getting a little bit annoyed. She put out a statement, and you've got to parse the words everybody was celebrating. Oh, she supports HECSET. That's not what she said. It's not what she said. Read the statement right here. She says as I support Pete through the process, I look forward to a fair hearing based on truth, not anonymous sources. Folks, it's it's better than where she has been on it, but she's clearly hedging, and I would not be surprised
Starting point is 00:37:50 if she tries to sabotage him through surrogates or somewhere else in the hearing. Joni Ernst, this is one of these senators who again is getting emotional about this. I'm telling you with this sense of pride, she cannot believe, and even Politico recognized it this morning, that a lot of these senators were stunned by the response of the Magosphere.
Starting point is 00:38:14 She is still convinced this is about her. She cannot get past her pride. Joni, here's a hint. Just come out and say, you support Hegseth and that's it. You don't have to put caveats as I support him throughout the process. There is still these little kind of buyer beware things she's doing. She's opening the door to sabotage him.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Read between the lines on this stuff. And this is why Pete was on Sean Hannity's show last night and the defense secretary nominee. This is exactly why people on the rhino end of the spectrum and the Democrats hate this guy. They want our military castrated and defenestrated. They want that. They don't want a lethal military because we have a lethal military.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It'll establish again, the preeminence of the United States. And a lot of these left-wing lunatics hate the United States. If you can't crush the military, you can't crush the country. Here's why they hate Pete Hegseth. This is probably the best 20 seconds you're going to hear from him about why this is the guy and the only guy. Check this out. Well, there's a lot to be done. First of all, you salute the commander in chief who got those 76 million votes and is
Starting point is 00:39:20 going to chart the way and I'll give him advice and counsel along the way. I'll just say what he told me, return the Pentagon to the war fighters Pete, get in there and clean out all the social justice politically correct garbage on top and get back to lethality, war fighting, accountability, meritocracy and readiness. Listen, I hate, I don't like wasting your time at all. I don't I've got an hour with you and then three hours on the radio People are policy. You need to understand that it's not a cliche. It is an axiomatic truth of politics The policies don't matter if you don't get the right people in there. The policy is irrelevant folks
Starting point is 00:40:04 There is a law on the books right now, Section 212F of the Immigration and Nationality Act, that gives Joe Biden the full authority to exclude any class of aliens for any reason out of the country for any length of time. Please, if you doubt me, if you're a liberal watching the show and you think I'm making this up,
Starting point is 00:40:22 go look up Immigration and Nationality Act, act section 212 f you can read it the president can shut down the border right now he doesn't want to well he's got the policy dan policy isn't policy people are policy this is why we cannot fold for a second on hegseth on gabbert Cash Patel. And this is why we need people like Stephen Miller, too. I want you to watch this video, a Stephen Miller on Fox, and you'll see what I mean by people or policy. Stephen Miller is going to be one of the lead voices in the Trump administration with Tom Homan and others on moving border legislation quick. This guy understands the law and he understands how to make the policy real, how to make it breathe and not just a dead piece of parchment. People are policy.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Do not fold, hold the line on these nominees. No matter what, they're feeling the heat. Don't let down. Don't put any ice cubes on this thing. Check this out. John Thune and Lindsey Graham have promised that they can get a full funding package for the border, the most significant border security investment in American history, which would be the biggest domestic policy win in at least 50 years to the president's desk in January or early February. That would mean a massive increase in ICE officers working on the deportation operation that Tom Homan just laid out. that would mean a historic increase in border agents, a pay raise for both, full funding for military operations, full funding for ICE beds, full funding for air and marine operations, full
Starting point is 00:41:52 funding for all of the barriers and technology that you need to ensure there's never another gotaway entering this country. Now, President Trump, regardless, on day one is going to issue a series of executive orders that seal the border shut and begin the largest deportation operation in American history. But you're talking about what would be the largest investment in immigration and border security. This is something the Republicans have been talking about for decades, but with Donald Trump, this is something that is going to happen. It will be the most important and significant, as I said, domestic policy achievement in half a century. Then the plan plan as Senator Thune has laid
Starting point is 00:42:25 out, as incoming Majority Leader Thune has laid out, would be to move immediately at that point, now we're talking in January, early February, immediately to the comprehensive tax reform package. Folks, we have two years. We got four. No, we don't. We have two to the midterms. You have to think in two-year cycles. The presidency is not four years. It's not. No, we don't. We have two to the midterms. You have to think in two year cycles. The presidency is not four years. It's not, no it isn't. It's two two year terms and that's not the same thing.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah, the math is the same. I get it. It is not. The president needs the house. The president needs the Senate. We have two years. The people he's got set up right now are there for success. There are very few nominees I disagree with.
Starting point is 00:43:10 The one over at Labour, I'm not so sure I'm fully behind. However, the rest of his portfolio of nominees and the people or policy, they absolutely get what the next two years needs to look like and they understand the way to pull the policy levers to get there. Here's why I'm really excited about the next two years needs to look like, and they understand the way to pull the policy levers to get there. Here's why I'm really excited about the next two years. And forgive me, I forgot to mention this early bit. There is a difference now.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I think you guys are feeling it. In the chat, tell me if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, say, Dan, that I'm not getting it. Unlike 2016, where I think we really shocked them, they didn't see us coming at all in 2016. They were so shocked. A lot of them genuinely believed something had to have gone wrong, some switch broke in the system.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I don't know about you, but I'm sensing now they hate us. They're going to call us racists and Nazis. None of that's changed. I get that. Don't think I'm naive. I'm not. I understand. I get it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm vibing with you. But are you sensing that they get that they're not going to be able to pull the same tricks again? Is that making sense? I don't know, Justin, I'm not like messing this up. I feel like the resist pink hat routine, like they exhausted that now. And that's why after yesterday's verdict, this is kind of tying together the beginning. You didn't see the response you would have typically seen. Because I think a lot of them are recognizing like, we're gonna have to take a different tactic game plan, the resist weaponization of government thing didn't work. The other game plan they're putting together could be worse.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm not telling you these are good people. I'm just saying I do think we have a window here, unlike the collusion window last time where the first two years they did the collusion hoax which bottled up the presidency. I think we've got two years here to do special things. And here's why I'm extra optimistic, get ready for it. Trump is hip to the media this time.
Starting point is 00:45:02 He always knew the media were the fake news, he's been calling them that since 2015. That's not new. But he has given so many interviews and back and forth right now that if you sense that he's getting really good at this now, watch, here's what I mean. He's with Kristen Welker, who by the way, again, I say, and I used to listen to Kristen Welker once in a while on NBC to get a perspective on what the left was thinking. This was not the craziest person on the left.
Starting point is 00:45:27 She's totally gone off the deep end. She is now all in with the Rachel Maddow stuff. She cannot give an honest and fair interview. Here she is, but she's not stupid. Here she is doing the back and forth with Donald Trump and Trump just completely beclounds her and eats her lunch right here because they're just not ready for Trump 2.0. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Let me ask you this about January 6th. I wish you could be a, if you, you know, you have such potential, if you could be just non biased, you hurt yourself so badly. I'm telling you, they deleted and destroyed all the evidence. Everyone knows it. And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything. No, I'm just saying they deny it. That's all I'm saying. Kristen, if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me. And you know what I'd do? I'd say, you got me.
Starting point is 00:46:20 They have done something so illegal. They have a committee sworn to. And because it was so bad, the only reason they did it is because the testimony turned out to be in favor of me. These guys are just talking to the whole production crew over here. You know, three of them sit over there. And it was just saying the same thing that you and I were talking about here. We were just saying, are you guys in the chat? You agree with me or not? Yes or no.
Starting point is 00:46:44 That he's gotten so much better with the media now. You know, in the beginning, he was never a bad interview, but I don't know, sometimes there was an entertainment factor to it that the tactical factor got lost. Is that kind of making sense? Yeah, yeah, like it was kind of like, just like an acquired taste in the beginning. Like it was entertaining, but the tactical back and forth and some of the points would get lost. He's gotten really good right now at staying on point and issuing
Starting point is 00:47:13 like a devastating counterpoint that comes out of nowhere. You know, what's the best punch in the world? The one you didn't see coming. They just don't see it coming. He's just gotten really good at this. Now, this is huge. I'm going to make a big announcement here too. Well, it's a big announcement contingent on them making a big announcement if they make one. I want you to listen to this clip first. Because they understand that the press absolutely tanked and submarine their first administration with bullshit collusion hoax stuff, PP tape stuff, the spy gate thing. They get that now. These guys know QTSI time is over. Here's Caroline Levitt. He's going to be his incoming press secretary after Spicer and Huckabee Sanders and Kayleigh.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Caroline Levitt is very good at her job. Caroline Levitt is indicating now that they are going to divvy up the press room differently. Here's my big announcement. If the Trump team wants the biggest political live stream in the world, that's our show. If they want to give us a seat in the press room, I, number one, would be honored and would absolutely accept it. But I will hire someone next week. I will let everyone know I will hire a Dan Bongino show correspondent folks We have a bigger audience in the Washington Post and New York Times is it it's totally up to the Trump team It is not my call. I will take it. We will take that seat for the damn Bongino show
Starting point is 00:48:36 You don't have to put us in the front row or anything like that Although we are bigger than most of these outlets, right? But the Bongino army would you not be honored to have a seat in the press room? I know I'd be. We will hire someone, Statorewski, man. I will hire someone. So we'll put him in there. Here's Caroline Levitt saying,
Starting point is 00:48:54 hey man, status quo in the press room is over, so I'm down for this. This sounds great to me. Check this out. Any plans to change the way the briefing room works? Well, let me preface by saying that there has never been a more transparent president than Donald Trump. We saw that in his first term.
Starting point is 00:49:09 He consistently called the press into the Oval Office when he was signing bills. He took questions from them directly. That's something the press, I know, is yearning for. They have not had that over the past four years. So their transparency and their access to the leader of the free world will be increased and also to the press secretary as well. We will be holding briefings in that room. I think as far as the landscape of the briefing room,
Starting point is 00:49:29 it needs to reflect the media habits of the American people in 2024, not in the 1980s. And President Trump won this election by utilizing non-traditional, non-legacy media voices outside the beltway. That's clearly who the American people are listening to. That's how they're American people are listening to. That's how they're digesting their news.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And I think it would be irresponsible of us not to include some of those voices in the briefing room. I'm totally down. I am down. I will hire someone and I can probably do it next week. I am down. Your call, not mine. It's your press room.
Starting point is 00:50:03 You divvy it up as you see fit. I'm just saying, my humble opinion, here's who I think should be in there. I think the war room guys should get one. I think Crowder should get one. I'm just going on basically live stream audience and digital. I think the Daily Wire should get one. I don't want to leave anybody out. I think we should get one. I think Charlie Kirk's team should get one too. I mean, these are basically the guys with the biggest audiences. I mean, if you want to reach actual where the media now actual people through the media,
Starting point is 00:50:39 then I'm, you know, I'm sorry to say, but that's where it is. That's where the audience is. You know, you can also give other outlets, you know, Breitbart, The Caller there, but if you want to reach digital audiences, that's where it's at right there. Those are the people who have the eyeballs in the earlobes. And that's thanks to you. You're the eyeballs in the earlobes, not me. I can only watch the show one time. Speaking of which, I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about this. Guy, by the way, hates stories like this, but I think this one he'll give me a kind of a carve out on
Starting point is 00:51:06 because this is freaking weird. And it's even weirder because there's a family connection in here. Everybody's like, what is he talking about? Michael and Evita, Evita's mom and dad live in New Jersey. They live in New Jersey and actually got some video on one of these things themselves. You know, Rachel from Fox, Rachel Campostuffi and Sean, who is the transportation secretary
Starting point is 00:51:31 nominee. They actually got video. These things, what things? What are you talking about? What is up with this drone thing in New Jersey, folks? This is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. For strict liability purposes alone, you would think someone would have come clean at this point.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You get what I'm saying? Legally speaking, if one of these things kind of crashes on someone's house, you would think like one of these companies would at least tell the governor, Phil Murphy, who's a commie, but he's still the governor of New Jersey. So we'll have to put still the governor of New Jersey. So we'll have to put aside the communism for a second. You think this guy would know who these things are? He's the freaking governor.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Now he's either playing really stupid, which is possible, but I doubt here, or he genuinely doesn't know what the hell these truck size drones are doing, hovering over sensitive locations in New Jersey. I want you to listen to this part. This is very, very important. Here's the governor of New Jersey who's either playing dumb or we got something really kind of big on our hands and no one wants to say what it is. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:52:41 These are apparently very, as I understand it, very sophisticated. The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark. And, you know, we're obviously most concerned about sensitive targets and sensitive critical infrastructure. So we've got military assets, we've got utility assets, we've got the president-elect's one of his homes here. This is something we're taking deadly seriously. We've gotten good cooperation out of the feds, but we need more, and that's, that was my plea. How long, how much longer do you think you're going to get in there? I don't, don't know, but if we have news, I'll come, I'll let you know. The minute we know something,
Starting point is 00:53:18 I'm not going to hide it under a bushel. Governor, you have, you know, people saying, you know, I saw a drone in it, it was spraying something, or I saw a drone crash in my yard and set off an alarm when I tried to go near it. There's a lot of fear. Yeah, New Jersey residents. I mean, what is your message? Well, the message I just gave. But by the way, we're not aware of any nefarious drone that has crashed or if there is one that's crashed, could someone please call me and let me know where that is. There were a couple of rumored, uhored downings for one reason or another. One of them was a toy. The other one was never found. But having something,
Starting point is 00:53:53 having our hands on equipment that's on the ground would be helpful. No question about it. Listen, I was adjusting who said he does have a lot of experience playing dumb. So he could know, you know, Occam's razor here, given all possible explanations, the simplest is he's a commie, so he's stupid. So maybe he just is dumb. I got to tell you my first read on it though, licking finger here, licking my finger, seeing
Starting point is 00:54:22 where the wind's blowing. I'm not sure he's playing stupid. Now, I'm gonna tell you something. We, in my last line of work, we obviously did security in the air as well. You do the bubble, you call it the protective bubble. Bubble meaning above and below. There's a lot of stuff I will not talk about
Starting point is 00:54:42 for obvious reasons, but the air picture is really complicated. You've got things like an AIDES, an Air Defense Identification Zone, a FRIZ, a Flight Restricted Area, right? You've got things like the DEN, which is this what defense enforcement network and system. Folks, you can't just go and randomly and repeatedly fly shit in the air without somebody noticing that this guy likely doesn't know as the governor of New Jersey what this is. I got to tell you has me a little bit concerned. There's something not right about this
Starting point is 00:55:28 story either. And I've waited, the Bongino rule applies. Could it be something like some manufacturing company testing some new form of delivery drone as I heard on Fox this morning? It could be. It's certainly possible I just find it unlikely that a company like that that would engage in that kind of commercial activity is engaged in such secrecy that the mayors the state police the local police and the governor of the state have absolutely no idea I'm telling you when I did protective operations, everybody knows what's in the sky. Everyone almost all the time. There's something out, trust your friend Dan.
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