The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 02/05/23 - Gen. Mike Flynn, Rep. Lauren Boebert, Matt Palumbo

Episode Date: February 5, 2023

First up, we talked with Gen. Mike Flynn about the latest revelations in the Biden, document scandal, and putting the pieces together to show how this is all connected to Ukraine, winds into other countries and how it goes all the way back to Obama. Next, Rep. Lauren Boebert, weighing in on the Biden document scandal, and about keeping promises to keep people like Schiff and Swallwell off committees they shouldn’t be serving on. Finally, Matt Palumbo discussed George Soros shady donations to soft on crime prosecutors, and what his end game is by doing that. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the united states the obama administration it's such a big scandal don't miss this interview Soros' group, all of this stuff. It all winds into other countries, how they do business with the United States, the Obama administration. It's such a big scandal. Don't miss this interview. And I believe it's the first time we've spoken on my radio show. Certainly not the first time we've spoken, however, or interviewed a surreal American patriot, a guy who has really got the shaft by the deep state himself, Lieutenant General Mike Flynn.

General, welcome to the show. We appreciate your time. Hey, Dan, thanks very much for having me on. got the shaft by the deep state himself uh lieutenant general mike flynn uh general welcome to the show we appreciate your time hey dan thanks very much for having me on i think this is the first time i've spoken to your to your radio show so thanks for having me yeah of course so you have been um a victim of uh probably the biggest deep state plot of all um i want you just to lay out i'm going to lay out my theory about you while you're here. And I want you to tell me where I'm going wrong and why you were such a danger to what we call the deep state. I don't really care what people call deep state, the silly state, it doesn't really matter. But there is a crew of people on the inside who clearly hated you. So you ran the

DIA, one of the largest intelligence operations and most important anywhere in the world. You were a senior intelligence official with the Obama administration. We know you objected to the Iran deal, which probably drew the ire of a lot of people in Obama's team who thought dealing with the Iranians somehow was a good idea. And secondly, you've exposed a lot of the failures of the intelligence community as a senior. And I mean,

senior intelligence official yourself, you weren't afraid to say, Hey, here's where we're going wrong. Is that what's made you a target since about 2015 of deep state people who seem to want to do anything to shut you up and make you go away? Yeah, I would say you're right on the money there, Dan. And there's a few other areas that have to do with black budgets and other operations that the nation is involved in that they knew I was aware of and probably would have, as a national security advisor, would have exposed and certainly would have, in some cases, stopped because they're just they're just so corrupt but yeah those are those are a couple of the key uh areas that uh why they came after me

and what are the one of the parts of the whole russia hoax spy gate thing where you're obviously a central figure for all the wrong reasons and by no fault of your own. One of the reasons I find your story particularly fascinating is Barack Obama, when he speaks to Donald Trump during this transition period, there's only one individual he mentions by name, according to reports. I wasn't in the room, but there's a lot of reporting out there. Anyone can read about this.

And that individual is you. He was so concerned about you being Donald Trump's national security advisor that your specific name came up. This guy was really scared of you getting in the Trump administration and breaking the deep state down. Yeah, and two names, actually,

me and Kim Jong-un from North Korea. Right, right, that's correct. And that story has been told. And I would just say that, again, I was twice appointed by Barack Obama to two really important jobs, one up in the Director of National Intelligence's office, and also, as you mentioned, the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, and twice fully confirmed by the United States Senate. And then a year later, they're going after me very, very hard. And part of it is because of what I knew and what I was asking the intelligence community to provide, especially once Donald Trump won the 2016 presidency. And then I was

appointed as an Ask Security Advisor. Obviously, the things that you do as a national security advisor, what you have responsibility for and oversight of. Now, one of the things that I do, I have said, Dan, that had I stayed in that role as national security advisor to the United States, there would have never been a Mueller investigation. So I don't say that, you know, loosely. I say that very matter-of-factly because all, for instance, those types of FISA requests come across the National Security Advisor's desk. Had I not departed the White House, and I say this very pointedly, there would have the likelihood of no Mueller investigation. I want your audience to understand that. That's a huge statement. It would have been no Mueller investigation had I not left the White House the way I did.

And, you know, I don't blame, you know, if I was to blame Donald Trump, I probably wouldn't be talking to you. I'd be out there, you know, fighting with the left somehow. But I know exactly what we're up against, Dan. I know what we're facing. One of the reasons why I think I'm on your show today and we can talk about it here is some other things that have become exposed because of information that's come out. But there is a real effort by a sort of globalist elite, if you will,

to take over the United States of America. And frankly, Donald Trump got in the way. And in 2016, when the shock heard round the world, I think was the 8th of November that year, Donald Trump won the United States presidency and beat the heir appointed Hillary Clinton. People couldn't believe it. And they then needed to go full bore and try to take him out. And, and they, I mean, so, you know, you've been, you've been amazing. You and a couple of others, you know, that have been really on it from the beginning and you, you, and I, you know,

and I know your audience knows this, you know, because you do it in a very humble way. But the story is still unfolding, Dan. And it's because we're already learning more and more about things, partially because of these, you know, the Twitter files that are now coming out. More stuff that comes out through Hunter Biden's laptop, which is just amazing. I mean, it's just incredible, it's incredible that, uh, what we've learned just from that. And also there are a lot of people that continue to fight these, uh, FOIA requests, right? And I mean, uh, uh, Tom Fenton is one in, uh, judicial watch. And so the people that keep fighting for these, um, these, uh, this information to be broken free from the grips of our deep state government,

we're going to learn even more. And we're not done. This story is not being told. What happened to me, I think, is a travesty. I am not going to let it define me. I have stood up for this country for damn near three and a half decades of my life. And I'm still I have stood up for this country for, you know, damn near three and a half decades of my life. And I'm still willing to stand up for this country. And I am I am right now in another way. And, you know, on another path that I'm following. So it's, this is this is

something that every person in this country, your audience, for sure, because the way you, you talk about it knows exactly what i'm talking about and we will not relent we will not give up yeah we're talking to lieutenant general mike flynn a genuine american patriot hero unfortunately targeted by a number of deep state actors general you had mentioned these global elitists and this conspiracy. And I'm sure the natural impulse of the maniacal moonbat left is to scream, well, that's a conspiracy theory, which is interesting because it is a conspiracy, but it most certainly is not theoretical. I just like your thoughts on this in general.

I mean, I'm going to get into a couple of specifics, but no need to comment on any one thing specifically here. There is a group of global elites working to influence policy in the united states and worldwide uh using the impeachment hoax uh as an example uh joe biden's kid we know is over in uh hunter biden is over in ukraine collecting money from very wealthy global elitists while he's over there uh the vice president who targeted you who was indicated by the FBI, it was his idea to pursue you for the Logan Act, by the way. The vice president at the same time is the point man in Ukraine. Our embassy in Ukraine is then working with a George Soros funded group.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It happened. The George Soros funded group then has a prosecute and do not prosecute list of people who we're going to support the U.S. in prosecuting. One of them is his business rival. prosecute and do not prosecute list of people who we're going to support the U.S. in prosecuting. One of them is his business rival. And then the lady running the group meets with the whistleblower at the White House. The lady running the Soros group meets with the whistleblower at the White House while this whole fiasco is going on. And then this whistleblower thing happens where Trump is trying to expose what happened in Ukraine. So the idea that people around the world are working with officials here in the United States to decimate our constitutional republic is not a conspiracy theory.

It's a conspiracy, but it ain't theoretical. It ain't theoretical, exactly. You know, and this is, people can go do their own research. And I know that you bring to light a lot of information where people can go, because I think you say it a lot. You know, don't take my word for it. Listen to what they say. And so, you know what, this really sort of 60,000 foot level. This is America. This is an America first agenda versus this globalist New World Order agenda.

And it's very real. I mean, they just recently had another one of these Davos summits with the World Economic Forum. These are real people, the likes of a guy like Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Bill Gates. I mean, we even had members of our own administration go over there. I mean, Christopher Wray was one, I guess, that he went over there and spoke. God knows why he did. But these are real people. They have a real agenda. And their agenda is a globalist system of government with unelected bureaucratic organizations like the World Bank, the World Health Organization, the World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund, the United Nations. for them. And they've really done some interesting things there. The BRICS is another organization that's part of it, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. And there's about eight or 10 more countries that have now aligned with the BRICS to really change the financial order of the world. So these are real things. I want people to go to the World Economic Forum website. Don't

listen to Mike Flynn. Go to their own website and look at what some of their goals and objectives are to create this thing they call the New World Order. Klaus Schwab wrote a book on it called The Great Reset in 2019. So these are things that are real. Conspiracy or not, there are competing ideologies globally. And there always has been, you know, this idea of capitalism versus communism and all these things. But this is now we're talking about sort of what I call America is the last redoubt. And if we fall, then, you know, where where do you go, so to speak? And these folks, these people that are real, they they have every intention to basically recreate America in in what they want to create it as not a you know, not a not a America first kind of agenda that that that a Donald Trump pushes. And, you know, America first for most people, America first as a as a governing philosophy has been around a long time. It's been around well before Donald Trump. He just he's just put a really big stamp on it in a very positive way, because it's like anybody, you know, you take care of your home first.

You take care of your family first. Well, why the hell shouldn't we take care of America first? And then the rest of the world can prosper. So anyway, that's that's kind of the 60,000 foot level. It's very real. These are real people and they have a real agenda. And we are in the midst of a of, you know, I call it fifth generation warfare, but we're in the midst of it. And and and the competing narratives that we have, you know, we're trying to fight through it every day. And and thank God that we have people like yourself who and there's other independent, you know, independent voices out there that are that are pushing the truth and then letting people decide for themselves because at the end of the day you know the truth hurts but also the truth fears no questions now talking to lieutenant general mike flynn uh sorry i unfortunately have about a minute and a half left so i i hate to ask you this in a limited amount of time but this group hamilton 68 that

claimed a lot of us conservatives were russian bots and pushed Twitter and the media to censor people. Some of the people in this group you worked with, Mike Morrell, Michael Chertoff. I worked with Michael Chertoff. I protected Michael Chertoff on his detail. I was on his actual detail. This is just shameful. I mean, an abuse of your position

to falsely malign American citizens as traitors to the country as Russians. Your thoughts as a former insider about what they did here. First of all, I know at least 75% of them either having worked with them or knew them and spoken to them

personally at different times. This is probably one of the biggest deceptions that we have had imposed on the United States of America by a group of people. And it started back in, you know, once Trump won, I think this group started in 2017, if I'm not mistaken. But once Trump won, they formed this organization to basically create the, you know, the big lie. And then this was the group, talk about misinformation,

you know, they're the ones that are supposed to be, they tout, we're going to, you know, defeat misinformation. They're the one, this group is the one that created an ungodly amount of misinformation and fed narratives to all of the mainstream media. So all the talking heads, all the parrots out there would spew these lies. And it, you know, again, more information is going to come out. It's coming out in droves right now. And, and, and we're going to find out exactly what they did to this country, because at the end of the day, Dan,

all of these people need to be held accountable. And I think that accountability is coming, you know, thank God we won the house of representatives this, this past election and, and a few other and a few other people out in the states, in some of the state legislatures. But this weaponization subcommittee that's been formed by the House of Representatives under McCarthy is very smart. And they're going to have to be very tough and they're going to have to prioritize to go after some of these people. General, I got to run, but I just want to make a quick suggestion before we go here. If Donald Trump were to win in 2024,

you should be immediately appointed the national security advisor. You don't have to comment on that. That's just Dan Bogino's humble opinion. General, thanks a lot for your time. As always, you're a real American patriot. You deserve what you went through is absolutely inexcusable, but you handled it with decorum and dignity, unlike some of your attackers did.

Thanks for your time, sir. God bless, Dan. Thank you to the audience, too. Thanks. You got it, sir. Lieutenant General Mike Flynn, a guy who tried to call out what was going on at the intelligence community years ago, and they tried to take him out because of it. That was General Mike Flynn on a scandal that continues to explode. Up next, we talk with Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. Let's hear from our next sponsor first birch gold despite the u.s blowing through the 31.4 trillion dollar debt ceiling in january the leftist white house still refuses to reduce spending our national leadership has buried their heads in the sand when it comes to fiscal responsibility that's why i use birch gold diversify into gold with Birch Gold, B-I-R-C-H. I've been a customer of

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anyway. You don't want to miss it. Well, I'd like to welcome back to the show one of my favorite people in congress we owe a debt of gratitude with the other 19 who stood up in the speaker's race and got some uh really good conservative concessions uh that are already paying dividends uh welcoming back to the show a congresswoman lauren bobert congresswoman thanks for taking some time we appreciate it and it's so great to be with you thanks for having me on of course so uh you know i we had some hacks and goons in the media you know losing their minds over the

speakers fight saying oh the public's never gonna forget everybody was melting down peeing their diapers or whatever um as predicted of of course, the public did forget. They, you know, the people move on. And you guys, you and the other 19, the brave 20 who stood up, got some really great concessions. And I have to say, and a hat tip to the speaker, who if he, you know, we're going to keep him in check. That's what we do here.

But he booted Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell off those committees. So, you know, we're going to keep them in check. I know you are. But that was kind of a good development. You can't have these guys in these committees. They're national security threats. They absolutely are.

And, you know, this isn't anything that's political. This is for the security of our nation. If it was political, they wouldn't be serving on any committee, just like Nancy Pelosi did to Republicans in the last Congress. So this outrage that they have over being taken off of these significant committees where they could do a lot of damage to our country is is is completely bogus. is it that Ilhan Omar is standing at a press conference with Eric smells not so well and Adam Schiff talking about their committee assignments being taken from them when she called for me to be removed from committees in the last Congress. So, you know, I mean, the hypocrisy is always on full display when it comes to these goons on the left.

But, you know, we are this is justice. The Democrats have set the precedent. They have they have already made it clear that they'll they'll remove people from committees. And we're just trying to protect our nation from people who are a threat. Congresswoman, you know, the Democrats, not all of them i mean i don't i don't like to paint with a broad brush they do that to us there's some in there who are you know are sensible if you know very few unfortunately but some of them um he's pretty cool yeah he's probably it maybe it i mean the rest are really tier one level imbeciles i

mean it's not as if we didn't warn them you know they overrode the judicial filibuster at the appeals court level um at the appellate level and we warned them we said to harry reed at the time uh who was the uh the leader of the democrats in the senate we said if you do this then we are going to dump the filibuster for the supreme court and it's going to kick you in the Senate. We said, if you do this, then we are going to dump the filibuster for the Supreme Court and it's going to kick you in the nuts. They didn't listen. And then we warned them on this too. If you're going to push for Congresswoman Boebert or Paul Gosar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, or anyone else to be kicked off committees, Congresswoman, they were warned. They said, you're setting a dangerous precedent that's going to come back. And now it bites him in the ass. And they were all acting surprised.

And here's the irony. I'm sorry, I don't mean to draw it up, but you have Adam Schiff, this lunatic whining on TikTok, a Chinese Communist Party connected app, and then begging for money while claiming we're fundraising off it. I mean, the irony is just delicious. Yes. Well, you reap what you sow. And then, you know, with the House Intel Committee, this is completely different. Members who have a history of leaking, lying, and being in bed with Chinese spies do not qualify for that committee. 100%.

Yeah. 100%. I'm glad you emphasized that. I mean, yes, listen, it is D.C. and politics are ugly and they wear worn, but you're 100 percent correct. And that's why I started out with the national security angle, because I'm being serious as a heart attack here. You cannot have a guy who may have compromised national security secrets to what appears to be a Chinese spy named Fang Fang on an Intel community. They've already shown you they're not trustworthy. Let's move on to some other stuff.

On an Intel community, they've already shown you they're not trustworthy. Let's move on to some other stuff. One of the other things you and the brave 19 got accomplished in the speaker fight, which again, we were told was going to contaminate our politics forever. And as predicted, no one even remembers it anymore. As I said, one of the other things you guys fought for, ladies, is some fiscal restraint. We're going bankrupt. We're $30 trillion in debt.

It won't be a formal bankruptcy. We can print money, but it will be a de facto one through inflation. Your money will just be worth nothing. How do you see the debt ceiling debate, which is getting hotter by the day now, as we get closer to some serious deadlines progressing? I had, I think it was Jim Jordan on, and he insisted that they were going to hold the line. How do you feel about that? and he insisted that they were going to hold the line. How do you feel about that? Yes. So when it's said that we're going to hold the line,

I think we've proven that we mean it. We were able to get amazing concessions out of the speaker's race, one of them being a balanced budget being brought to the floor. But before we do that, we do have to deal with this debt ceiling issue that's at hand. Democrats went through a complete spending spree

in the name of COVID, in the name of a pandemic. And now here we are hitting our debt ceiling again that was just raised. We brought in a record $4.9 trillion into the Treasury. And it shows that Washington, D.C. does not have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. So there absolutely has to be serious cuts. And I think some of the things that I'm floating out there, we're all getting together and organizing our thoughts on this. that's left over, that unspent COVID money that was approved by Congress, and put that towards it. We certainly need to end the COVID emergency because there are people who are still on Medicaid that cannot be kicked off Medicaid. They could be working, well-abled body adults working, and they are not able to be kicked off Medicaid because of the COVID emergency. And Congresswoman, sorry to interrupt, but said that these are people who are well above the

income limits. In other words, even if you believe that the government is doing a good, which I don't, doing a good job with these healthcare programs for the poor, that's not the people currently on the program due to the emergency. These are people who have enough funds to do with your own health insurance and they're actually taking money. I always use the analogy of a handicapped parking space. If someone who is not handicapped parks in the space, you are taking it away from someone who's going to need it. That's the point.

I mean, money is not, we can't just keep spending it like that. Let me ask you something else. I only got money is not, we can't just keep spending it like that. Let me ask you something else. I only got a few minutes with you. You're talking to one of the good guys or good ladies, in this case, Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who we love on the show. A lot of people out there are concerned about the vaccine. I like to keep this argument based in reason and science. There's a lot of negative stories. I'm sure some might be hyperolic but there's it's very clear now that people have been hiding uh the extent of these side effects do you sense a possibility in this new congress of getting some of these executives under oath up there on capitol hill because congresswoman

the american people deserve the truth um if there's a danger there that the government's hiding that we don't know about that tens of millions hundreds of millions of people have been affected i'd like to see some people to depose here under oath up on capitol hill and people like you asking legitimate fact-based questions of them uh yes so we are absolutely going to subpoena these uh folks who who mandated um this this vaccine and um and also um promoted it i i mean this is something that we're seeing an effect from. My colleague, Congressman Troy Nels, he's introduced the China Lied People Died Act to make the CCP repay the United States $4.6 trillion in federal COVID relief. And so we're

absolutely going to be bringing folks in and making them answer to what is going on with these vaccines. Also, we have the China Task Force that's going to not just look into the origins of COVID, because, I mean, I think we've figured that one out. Certainly there will be some discussion there. But we want to see government mishandling of of covid and and everything that they did with the lockdowns, with the with the with the mask mandates, with the vaccine mandates. and not talk about the one thing in common that all of these people who are having complications and even losing their lives have in common. This is the one thing, the one denominator that is there, and everyone is afraid to say it.

They're afraid to come out and say, well, is it the vaccine? What effect did the vaccine have to cause this? So this is something the Oversight Committee is going to be looking into, likely the weaponization of the Federal Government Committee and certainly the China Task Force. And two of those committees are part of our concessions with Speaker McCarthy. And so we have those those committees set in place that are going to be fully funded and resourced so we can not only have the hearings and investigations, but be able to hold these people accountable. Oh, that's that is really, really refreshing to hear. We're talking to Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. Last question for you. I always appreciate your time. These documents,

Tom Cotton was on. I saw him on Fox this morning, senator from Arkansas on our side of the aisle. And what I believe to be a really solid move on his part, he's threatening to basically uphold the confirmation process if we don't get a look at what is in the classified documents that were held

by both allegedly Donald Trump, because he's disputing the classification, of course, but that's another story, and Joe Biden, who no one's disputing the classification. Now, I find it awfully odd, Congresswoman, that they don't want you to see what's in these documents. Now, my next segment, when you're gone, I'm going to play a cut here from Miranda Devine. Would it be awfully interesting if some of the information in those classified documents that they won't let the Senate look at was, in fact,

in some emails Hunter Biden was exchanging with foreign countries? Now, we don't know that, but there's an easy way to clear it up, right, to get a look at the documents. Your thoughts on that? Absolutely. Well, first of all, go Senator Cotton. We deserve to have answers on this, and I'm really proud of him for taking the lead in this and making sure that we know exactly what's there.

But with these classified documents, the real concern to me is the double standard. Democrats are searched and Republicans are rated. Uh, the white house is dodging questions on this. They really seem to be hiding something. Um, one question I want answered is why did the DOJ wait until after the midterms to bring this forward? Why do, uh, P all the, all of these people who don't have the authority to have classified documents in their possession have them? And could we have stopped this if we would have actually

prosecuted Hillary Clinton whenever she was found with classified documents and deleted 33,000 emails? And probably, you know, the biggest regret that any Democrat has right now is Joe Biden himself and the fact that he didn't use bleach bit or a hammer. Yeah, that's such a great point about Hillary Clinton. I think a lot of people have yet to make that if we would establish would have established the precedent early that this is not acceptable behavior and engaged in even a prosecution, even if it didn't involve jail time, but involved the serious effort to get to the truth. You likely wouldn't have this. And I like your other point as well. And all you guys out there should listen to what the congresswoman just said. Democrats get searched. Republicans get rated unacceptable, unacceptable. Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, thanks for fighting a good fight. It's already paying massive dividends.

I am going to continue to thank you guys for what a good fight. It's already paying massive dividends. I am going to continue to thank you guys for what you did. It was a rare act of bravery up on Capitol Hill, and we're always happy to have you. It was an honor to stand with my colleagues who were in the fight until the end. We have some amazing people up here, and thank you so much for all of your support and for all of your listener support. It means the world to us all. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.

Happy to do it. Take care, Congressman. Thanks for your time. Bye, Dan. You go, it means the world to us all. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Happy to do it. Take care, Congressman. Thanks for your time. Bye, Dan. You go, folks. One of the good guys. Good ladies, I should say. That's a great line, right, Jim?

Republicans get searched. Excuse me. Democrats get searched. Republicans get raided. It's so true. That was Congresswoman Boebert. Up next is Matt Palumbo. He wrote the book, The Man Behind the Curtain, about George Soros.

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Check it out. Matt Palumbo, one of the finest authors out there. He wrote the book called The Man Behind the Curtain, the definitive account of George Soros' role in not just politics, but law enforcement, street chaos. The book was a mega hit. It's back up on the charts. Matt, people have shown a real interest in this book.

I saw the New York Post had one of your pieces on the front page. I think everybody's starting to wake up to just how damaging this guy's been. Yeah, thanks for having me on. You know, it seems like every single week there is a new story out where, you know, it's a law and order type story where it seems like a parody of reality, like a sort of Franz Kafka-esque story. So the latest was this prosecutor, Buda Bivaraj, out of Luton County, and she was just sort of the latest source back prosecutor to announce she wouldn't be enforcing the law. So I just thought, you know, it's a perfect opportunity to, A, detail the latest craziness and how it's sort of emblematic of everything Soros has been up to lately. Folks, the book again, it's called The Man Behind the Curtain. There's a lot of stuff in there. I think it's really going to surprise you about exactly what Soros has been up to.

I know one of the things, Matt, you've been addressing lately about Soros is the left is so afraid of us asking questions. Now, keep in mind, the left has no problem asking questions about donors they don't like. Even donors who aren't really conservative, like the Koch brothers who are more libertarian. Right. But if you donate to a cause they don't like, then you are immediately to be hung from your toenails, never to be accepted in polite company again, and harassed for the rest of your life. But when we ask questions about people like Soros,

who unquestionably, we have the money trail, have given money to prosecutors who have lorded over street chaos, all of a sudden the line is what? This is definitely anti-Semitic. It's so predictable with these idiots no i was saying there's like a war on noticing and you see this actually in any headline where democrats do something wrong the headline is never phrased as like hey this democrat did something wrong it's sort of phrased in this this you know phrasing of get a load of these republicans for noticing they did something wrong. They phrased us as the

Republicans pounce. That's the whole Republicans pounce thing. Yeah, so with these Soros prosecutors, I reported in the New York Post article there's about 75 of them nationwide. Fortunately, one of them, Chase Abudin, got recalled. But Soros is backed with $40 million.

He's donated over his lifetime $32 billion, and I don't think, having researched his empire, I don know, he's donated over his lifetime $32 billion. And I don't think, you know, having researched his empire, I don't think he's ever gotten this kind of bang for his buck. Because now one in five Americans live in an area where they are beholden to a Soros prosecutor. You know, when Soros is donating tens of millions for presidential elections, you know, the silver lining when he backs like John Kerry or Clinton

is, well, at least he incinerated that money. Here he's going to a very bad cause. And the latest person I mentioned is Bouda Bibera. She's sort of, I thought, is emblematic of all of them. Her latest thing is, well, we're not going to enforce lower-level laws because then we can enforce, you know, we can spend more time prosecuting rape and murder. And the exact phrasing she used is, I don't want to be prosecuting rape and murder. And the exact the exact phrasing she used is I don't want to be prosecuting speeding tickets. So I look in the list of, OK, well, what are these these crimes that you're not going to prosecute? Speeding tickets, I don't see in the list, but I see

eluding police hit and run, public intoxication and failure to appear. So you can flee the police and it's not a crime. And if you do get charged by police and don't show up to court, that's apparently also not a crime. So even with these extremely, you know, quote unquote, low level crimes, in her words, not being enforced, there is going to be a crazy ripple effect. And then, you know, the other half of the equation that, you know, we are told, well, if we don't prosecute small crimes, we have more resources for bigger crimes and it's sort of like with masks you know if they work why isn't it working we have 75 prosecutors that are not enforcing these low level crimes and the other half where there's enforcement more violent crimes never happens um and of course they lied to us they were never going to do that but you know the increase in

murder nationally is the most pronounced in these cities that are claiming to adopt this philosophy. So, I mean, the best evidence against it is them themselves. We're talking to Matt Palumbo with a P, author of the book about George Soros, that is peaking a lot of interest. Front page of New York Post, man. It's called The Man Behind the Curtain about George Soros. Matt, you know what? You were on Fox and Friends the other day. I was up at, you know, 4 o'clock in the morning watching you. You looked up. Did you have some coffee or something? You looked rather awake.

I woke up an hour and a half early so the coffee would digest. But, yeah, I was very awake fortunately. Because he was on Fox & Friends first, and it was legit, like 4, 4.15 or something. I turned it on. I'm like, oh, look, there's Matt. So Matt and I worked together at this place. He manages BonginoReport.com. Had the greatest headline ever the other day. Nancy

Pelosi does an exorcism at her house and magically survives. That was great. Very funny. I actually texted you in the weekend. But I'm like, gosh, this guy looks awake. And one of the reasons is I know you genuinely like talking about this topic of Soros because it speaks to a larger leftist ideology. And you brought up this great point. You said, bang for the buck, Soros funding local prosecutors is the greatest deal ever. Like, why bother to overturn an entire city council, a state assembly, a governor's race or a mayor's race, which could cost you tens of millions, when you could spend probably $500,000, get

a prosecutor in there who says, hey, I don't really care what laws you Republicans or Democrats pass. I'm just going to get my guy in, and he's not going to enforce anything we don't like. It was such a brilliant point. Yeah, yeah. I hate to say the source is brilliant for figuring that out, but unfortunately it is. And the thing, too, is these are not exactly high-profile races. So it's very hard to buy a presidential candidate if there's billions spent. too is like these are not you know these are not exactly high profile uh races so you can put you

know it's very hard to buy a presidential candidate if there's billions spent but you can buy a da's race for a couple hundred grand or there's actually cases i had in the book where he donated so much money to a candidate the opponent just dropped out instead of even bothering to compete so so yeah and success rate 90 plus percent which is is, I mean, for any category of anything really is spectacular, unfortunately. Talking to Matt Palumbo, author of the George Soros book, The Man Behind the Curtain. Matt, I don't give you the questions in advance or anything, of course, and I know you think on your feet, but this is a tough one. I don't know if you have an easy answer to this. I can speculate only. But the question I get from listeners about Soros and his activities in politics and the media, and hopefully we'll get to that in a second.

You did a piece in the New York Post about that too. But is why? I mean, like I get why he likes liberal ideas. He's a liberal. He probably believes for some stupid reason they work. High taxes, crappy public schools. But the public safety situation, he's not a dumb guy. He's a billionaire.

He's not stupid. So he knows that these DAs and prosecutors he's getting elected are not enforcing crime. He sees the numbers. They're undeniable numbers, crime rates going up. So clearly it speaks to me to a volitional act. It's not an accident. So why is he doing it? Yeah, I mean, it is obviously a tough question,

but I'm not in his head. And, you know, I always feel like it's sort of a lazy answer to say, you know, my political opponents are evil and want to destroy the country. But that is the most plausible explanation. I mean, when I was writing the book, I read everything Soros has written, which a lot of it's business and finance. And that was my background. And he's a very smart guy, a very original thinker.

He knows exactly how to look at data. And it is undeniable what's happened. So, you know, the question becomes, well, what exactly is the end goal? Is it, you know, does he want to, I don't know, demonize police, to federalize police? Does he think that destroying the country will somehow make people more receptive to future leftist ideas? I mean, that could be one explanation. But, yeah, this is one of those cases where, you know, I generally try to get people the benefit of the doubt and assume they mean well. With Soros, that could not be said at all.

And even with the non-law and order stuff, most of it's just self-serving. You know, one of the founding myths of George Soros that some neoliberals will give is that he helped a lot of post-Soviet countries transition away from communism to capitalism, and it almost seems right-wing, and then you look at what was actually going on, and he was just in bed with corrupt regimes buying up their

assets for pennies from the dollar, and that was sort of rebranded as some capitalist endeavor. So, yeah, everything about the guy is a fraud, sort of a rebranded as some capitalist endeavor. So yeah, everything about the guy is a fraud and I do generally think he's an evil person. Yeah. And listen, you know,

I've known Matt a long, long, long time. I mean, gosh, I met Matt. I was, I was sick one night in my house and some guy sent me an article and I

thought it was written by like a 50 year old. And I find, remember Matt, I was like guest hosting WBAL. I'm like, well, how old are you? I matt i was like guest hosting wbal i'm like well how old are you i don't even know how old you were maybe like 19 or something like holy moses you're super smart i had him on that's how long i've known this guy um but i and you're a very kind of reserved guy and i think you're correct i think when you run out of implausible explanations you

have to apply occam you know occam's razor here you know you have to apply Occam's razor here. You have to accept the explanation with the least amount of assumptions that the guy is just an evil guy who just doesn't like the United States. I mean, there's no other explanation for the guy's activities. Let me get to one. I don't want to leave this out though, Matt.

You wrote the piece in the New York Post. I know you cover extensively in the book as well. Soros has really, really deep ties to media people. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real. He funds organizations and a lot of these media people

sit on the boards of some of these organizations. That can't possibly be ethical. There's no way you could be an independent journalist reporting on Soros if Soros is funding organizations you're a part of.

Yeah, and the thing is too, like he, so basically the way it works is he'll fund a think tank or, you know, an activist organization. And the way I link them is just that they sat on the board and also worked for a media company. I say they're linked. And you, I mean, the way I prove it in the book and the article is I just say, all right, look at these people, look who they work for, and then just do a search on their website for Soros' name and what is the coverage like.

And it's always either A, defending him, or B, presenting his critics in some sort of negative light. And generally speaking, the most common criticism is that it's anti-Semitic. It's as if a memo went out and just said, you know what, just say this and that's good enough. But yeah, there's a major complex of interest, and that's actually part of the large reason why any criticism

of Soros is branded a conspiracy ironically it's a split on media conspiracy I suppose yeah and it's just the tricks that they use are so basic and stupid and juvenile like oh any criticism has got to be anti-semitic

I can guarantee you a large number of people who criticize this guy, one, don't care, and other people don't even know he's, I don't even, who cares?

There's nothing to do with the debate at all. It's like, you know, my wife's Colombian, not from South Carolina, from the country of Colombia. You know,

she's, my wife is a right winger. She's a conservative. You know, if you criticize her, I can say, oh, you're definitely,

definitely anti-Hispanic. You don't like brown people. I mean, it a conservator. You know, if you criticize her, I get to say, oh, you're definitely anti-Hispanic. You don't like brown people. It's so juvenile. I know. Maybe we should. It's right. Matt, I'm going to get another promo in for the book. The book is excellent, folks. It was a bestseller. It's going to be a bestseller again. It's called The Man Behind the Curtain. It's about

George Soros, and I promise you, there's stuff in there you have not heard and have not seen before. The guy is up to some no good stuff. Matt, thanks a lot for your time. We appreciate it. My pleasure, Dan. Thanks for talking to me.

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