The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 03/03/24 - Aaron Lewis, Michael Franzese and some epic Dan rants

Episode Date: March 3, 2024

First up, the great singer songwriter Aaron Lewis. We talked about his time in Staind, his solo career, and his new song Made In China. He really takes you on the inside of the music business. Next, D...an reacts in real time to Hunter Biden appearing on the Hill for his testimony about the Biden crime family. Then, Michael Franzese, a former member of the Colombo Crime Family, talked about his life in the mob, and how the government is acting just like them. Finally another real time rant about the debacle in Fulton County with Fani Willis, and how if intelligent life is out there, they would be running away from here as fast as possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 and use code Bongino for up to 40% off. First up is our interview with this really terrific singer. He's become a good friend, Aaron Lewis. You remember him from his solo career and from his time in the band Stain. They were unbelievably popular, still are. Some iconic music. He's got a new song now, Made in China china takes you on the inside of the music business in this interview take a listen the great aaron lewis you may have heard of him he's had a storied solo career was also uh in the band stained one of the most popular bands of at least in my i love them they were aaron's an amazing singer he chose uh to put out this song it's available for download now and we're lucky enough to have him on the show today.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Aaron Lewis, welcome to the show, amigo. How are you? I'm good, Dan. How are you? I'm doing good. So listen to this. I get this guy. He sends me a Facebook message.
Starting point is 00:02:17 He says, hey, I worked with Aaron in staying for three or four years as a trucker. He says, I can tell you with 100% certainty that Aaron Lewis is the same man backstage as the man you see on the stage. The voice you hear is 100% his, no auto-tune or any other electronics added. He's a true patriot and a great husband and father and a great person to be around. What a nice message for you, brother,
Starting point is 00:02:41 from someone who knew you from working with you. You can't ask for anything more than that, right? No, man. What a nice message for you, brother, from someone who knew you from working with you. You can't ask for anything more than that, right? No, man. I mean, to be called a patriot and a great husband and father, that's really all that matters to me. So, Aaron, you've had an amazing career. Your solo career has been incredible. Your time with Stained, everybody's heard your music.
Starting point is 00:03:04 You're out on your own now. you have a new song out made in China folks if you want to check it out on on x by the way he's at Aaron Lewis music and Aaron I think what makes you different I say this sadly is there's so few of you guys left you know Bobby Richie Kid Rock you Jason Aldean you guys really love the country you're not afraid to say it you're patriotic and that's kind of been lost in this woke music industry now hadn't it oh it's been completely lost it's just been lost altogether it doesn't have to apply to the music business or or anything else we have we have very much lost our way as as a as a as a country as a as the the the owners of this country. We've lost our way.
Starting point is 00:03:50 We've forgotten what our responsibilities are as the caretakers of this country, because that's all we are. We're caretakers to hand it on to the next generation in better condition than it was when it was handed to us. And that's what it's supposed to be. And I'm not seeing that at all uh we're talking to aaron lewis just an amazing performer i promise you've heard his music most of you uh know him from his solo career in his time with stand he
Starting point is 00:04:17 has a new song out called made in china i just uh retweeted it on X. Please check it out. Download it today. You know, Aaron, I'm seeing this growth of this parallel music industry now. I use that term because I have a parallel economy type business entrepreneurship enterprise where I build out these operations away from the old liberal economy because they just boycott and they engage in anti-business tactics. they just they boycott and they engage in anti-business tactics but guys like you again john rich uh jason aldean and others you've had such tremendous success are you seeing more people young and up-and-coming artists that are taking this this tack now where they're staying out of the business and just going direct to consumer on like rumble or YouTube or elsewhere? Um, I don't see as much of it because I really try as hard as I can to not participate in the internet world. Um,
Starting point is 00:05:16 you know, I never even had an official MySpace page, like going all the way back. I, I always, for some reason, I always, I some reason, I always, I always had this, this gut feeling about the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:05:30 that it was just bad. And you know, it's, I realized that through it, we have all been able to wake up in a manner that we wouldn't have been able to wake up with otherwise. But we wouldn't have been able to wake up with otherwise but once we get past this i don't know if it's worth the damage that it's causing in so many other ways and it's so refreshing we're not wired this way you're not wired by human beings are not wired to to have a cell phone that is an instant computer instant everything access to the internet connected to them at all times it's it's like it's become part of your body i don't live in that
Starting point is 00:06:14 space the entertainment i love it i go to concerts all the time but i don't know what it's like to perform in front of 50 000 people i have no idea i mean I talk on the radio. I don't sing. I enjoy it. But have you ever had PR people? I mean, you're from one of the, you've had, again, an amazing solo career. You were part of one of the biggest bands of my era. I mean, you were just born a couple of years ahead of me. Everybody knows Stain, everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Did you ever have PR people and hacks come up to you and say, eh, you know, stop with this pro-America stuff. Just stick to the music. And, you know, that's old passe. That was in the 50s. You ever have people try to tell you to kind of shut your mouth that you could be a whole lot richer if you'd just be quiet about America and, you know, conservative values?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Every day. Every day in one way or another. day every day in one way or another not not from my inner circle but but there is definitely a a power structure above me that uh i figured that that wishes that i would stop telling the truth every day i think i told you in a text your song someone is um he's got a new song out folks aaron called made in china and it's incredible we just played a little bit we'll play a little bit more and then wave back in but your song someone is really really special uh it's just an amazing song i one day my wife was getting ready we were going out for dinner and it's amazing how your songs are so deep and emotional and i just played it on my phone i I said, I want you to listen to this.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It makes me think of you because I, you know, we've had very traumatic relationship in the beginning and that you stuck with me through all these times and your music is, do you write all of your songs or do you, is it a compilation effort with others? Cause that song is just deep. I mean, it'll shake your soul. So I wrote that song with Matt McGinn. I, for the longest time, I held my writing process very, very close to the chest and
Starting point is 00:08:18 really didn't let anybody else in on it. And it really got to a point where it was too much for me. It was too much to carry, too much. It would take me months to recover from the songs that I wrote in order to even be able to play them live without, you know, the possibility of breaking down in front of everybody. So it really, there, there, there came a point and it came in the, in, in this, in my solo career where I just didn't want to bear that burden anymore. And, and sharing it with somebody who, who knows me and knows my inner workings and knows how I think. And, you know, somebody like Bobby Pinson or Matt McGinn or Jeffrey Steele or Ira Dean, these are people that really know me very, very well. And so it's almost like they get to share my brain while we write songs together.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Right. That's powerful. I mean, my wife was in tears. It's an amazing song. And it's just one of a library of songs you have. We're talking to Aaron Lewis. He has a new song out called Made in China. Again, you know him from his solo career. You know him from his time in Stain. him from his solo career you know him from his time in stain aaron i won't keep you like be very generous with your time but one thing i always ask a lot of uh people who really gained a high level of prominence in the entertainment or sports space is when you were with stain then you guys hit it i mean you guys hit it big you were everywhere your music was everywhere you know was there a moment where you're looking around with the guys and you're like wow like we're here we made it you know were you listening in a radio in a car headed to a gig and all of a sudden your song was playing or something was there a moment out there where that really that bell kind of rang i i don't know if i have that in me, Dan.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Like I'm always trying to fill the emptiness inside of me that comes from somewhere. And, and I'm, I'm, I'm not capable of sitting back and going, yeah, I made it. I'm always thinking in my head, I'm always thinking that I'm only as good as the next thing I put out. Right? No, I get it. Brother, listen to me. I get it.
Starting point is 00:10:58 People ask me all the time, what motivates you? The love of what you do or the fear of failure from what you're doing i said that's an easy one to answer uh the fear of failure you were 100 correct and i've got a whole crew sitting here next to me listening aaron i can do three four banger shows 150 000 live streamers whatever it is and then i do one show and we're off 10 and i'm like go down i'll talk to my wife it's over over. It's over. Dan Bongino show sucks. I'm quitting. I'm the same way, brother. I totally get it. And I think what makes you special, why you've succeeded with both stained and on your own is because of that
Starting point is 00:11:35 emotional answer you just gave. Like if I did make it, I don't even want to know because then I'll act like I made it. Am I accurately summing that up? Yeah. I, I, it's just not in me, Dan. It's not, it's, it's not in my character. I don't, I don't know how to give up on something. I don't know how to, to sit back on my laurels. I don't know how to take a vacation. I don't know how to take a vacation. I don't know how to take time off. Like I work a full week just like everybody else, only I work from Wednesday to Sunday while everybody else works Monday to Friday. My producer's pointed at me now.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He's like, you got the same problem, Dan. I got this, I can't, I'm sending these guys emails at five o'clock in the morning. I'm like, you believe this crap? I'll read some story about Biden. They're like, bro, Jim's doing two hours behind me. It's three o'clock in the morning, man. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Give me a break. I'd stop sending these emails early. You know what that is? Insanity? Job security, guys. That's right. No, that's right. And I think that's why.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You don't have to worry about whether you have to come into job, into work the next day or not because you know that we're going to be there no it's true we're talking to aaron lewis aaron lewis uh he is at aaron lewis music on twitter x whatever you want to call it now he has a new song out made in china and folks do me a personal favor download his song, Someone, too. And tell me it's not the most special piece of music you've heard in a long time. Aaron, you're welcome back anytime on the show. We're going to play a little bit of your music. Thanks for your time.
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Starting point is 00:14:19 lunatic communist socialist left about evidence. They know's evidence they know they're guys guilty they don't really care that's the point take a listen folks right now uh hunter biden is up on capitol hill and i just want to air a note of caution for you here because as i'm sensing a lot of frustration is starting to build stop trying to convince the lunatic class, the commies, the leftists, the swamp rat Republicans, stop trying to convince them that Joe Biden is the senior member of the Biden crime family. Why? What are you saying that for? Because they already know.
Starting point is 00:15:00 They don't care. We should plow ahead with this case because there are some sane people left who will be convinced. How do I know that? I'm basing it on polling. In the last election, if there was a poll done after the last,
Starting point is 00:15:14 excuse me, presidential election, precision here matters, upwards of 17% of Joe Biden's own voters said they would have voted differently if they had known basically about the Biden crime family activities. So don't tell me it doesn't matter. It does.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I've got the data to back it up. Getting the information out there matters. However, I'm sensing a growing frustration with Republicans endlessly trying to convince liberals that Biden's corrupt. Do what I do on social media. Just laugh and mock them. They already know. You see what I'm getting at with this?
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm not trying to be a jerk or sound like I'm chastising anyone. It would be ridiculous. I just don't want you to get frustrated. You're like, gosh, we've got canceled checks. We've got suspicious activity reports. We've got suspicious activity reports. We've got multiple business partners saying Biden's the brand.
Starting point is 00:16:12 We've got photos of Biden at meetings, testimony of Biden at meetings. We've got texts from hunters saying I'm sitting next to my father. We've got office space rented for Biden. We've got the 10% for the big guy email. We've got a $200,000 check to Biden. We've got Biden living in multimillion biden we've got biden living in multi-million dollar homes on a senator's salary we've got joe biden talking on the phone with poroshenko folks you could produce evidence tomorrow of joe biden himself i'm not kidding this may sound like i'm making a joke i am not because i Because I've said this before. You could pull evidence
Starting point is 00:16:47 tomorrow of Joe Biden admitting on video. He did all of this, which he did. And Jim, what do you think the libs would say? You know, he's got some frontal lobe dementia or something. He's making the story up. I'm dead serious. Jim's laughing as if he's a i am 100 serious stop trying to convince them just make fun of them that is it they know the guy's guilty is sin they know he's a kid sniffing sociopathic plagiarizing bribe-taking treasonous most horrendous president we've ever had in u.s history they know it not a joke we know i just wanted to get that out of the way because i had what did i send out this morning i just want to sit let me so you see where this is the genesis of this will make more sense i get up in the morning in a mood sometimes and oh, here it is. So this was posted
Starting point is 00:17:46 at six oh five in the morning Eastern time. I've been up for a little bit and I'm putting together the show and I'm seeing Dan Goldman and everyone on Twitter. And of course, they're like the Republicans case against the Biden crime family is falling apart. I'm laughing as I always do in the morning. And, you know, dan goldman who is a certified moron i mean by the moron society of america he gets their stamp of approval so i tweeted out don't waste your time trying to convince these people biden's a criminal they already know and they love it they're tyrants and he's their tool for destruction just plow ahead with the evidence and hope the sane people will eventually see what's right in front of them now why am i bringing this up not just because hunter's testifying right now but maybe an hour later i'm downstairs i'm working
Starting point is 00:18:32 out and jim did you see it on fox and friends and there you go there's ducie he's like oh there's no direct evidence i'm like oh here we go so i tweeted again just after i posted this it happened again don't waste your time trying to convince there's the no evidence joe biden was involved crowd these people are either lying playing dumb or they're actively involved in the scam themselves i just don't want to here here's dan gold Yeah. I'm going to put this in the show tomorrow. Here's Dan Goldman. Let me send this to myself. Here he is right now.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I'm watching Twitter in live time. There is a very understandable, coherent business explanation for the Biden family making millions off Joe Biden. Yeah, he's correct. Jim's like, what are you talking about, Dan?
Starting point is 00:19:20 He said, no, he's right. Yeah. Biden was selling out the United States and its secrets to a foreign country for money it's the truest thing Dan Goldman ever said the point I'm trying to make here is an obvious one they know liberals hate you I can't say this enough we say it every day on the show they hate the country they hate you they hate themselves if they happen
Starting point is 00:19:46 to be white and they sit there all day and engage in white guilt exercises but which is the very i mean the very definition of racism this they hate everything themselves their neighbors, everything. The country, their own kids. They're horrible people. You trying to convince them of something they already know is a total waste of your time. Speaking of which, so for the last couple of weeks, we've been airing some really sensitive information
Starting point is 00:20:21 on both the radio show and the podcast. It's stuff I was given permission to share a long time ago. I had kept some of it not internal, but some of it I wasn't kind of given permission to go with. And once we had to go on a lot of this stuff, I decided that it was time. It was time because another source had independently confirmed some information. And long and short of it is I need you to trust me when it comes to reporting, especially on a show where people trust you for your credibility. I say all the time,
Starting point is 00:20:56 I don't want to be first. I'm not interested at all. I want to be right. I don't care about being first. Oh, that's where all the clicks come from. don't care not even a little bit i have zero interest in that forget it i would actually prefer to be second or third so then you have some independent confirmation from a different information stream bottom line is we put out some information about the entire collusion hoax and the spying scandal on u.s citizens including donald trump and we had put out a list of people who were spied on about the entire collusion hoax and the spying scandal on US citizens, including Donald Trump. And we had put out a list of people who were spied on, according to my source.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I got a bunch of calls from people. Can text, during the show, by the way, I'm trying to do a radio show. People are texting me. Can you come on my show and talk about this? I'm not trying to be rude, folks. The answer is absolutely not. This is a serious situation.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm trying to be delicate here because I don't want to sound like I'm exaggerating or being overly dramatic. The people, the people who have shared information with me that is so sensitive about this CIA overseas intelligence operation, a spy on Trump and what one of my sources calls Pied Piper candidates, that'll mean something to some of you. It's so sensitive that I have to be very careful so before I do a show I'm sure to write it down so I'm sure not to slip on things
Starting point is 00:22:33 I'm not doing interviews on it the problem is starting because here's what's happening you've got a bunch of people out there who are on that list and I don't know if I don't know they want to make the story about them it's about a lot of people so they're like oh come on my show and talk about it absolutely not i am not burning a source forget it there is not there's not even a zero percent it's the total absence of value altogether there's no chance i'm doing it i'm not trying to be rude or obnoxious but you need to respect that and sending a thousand people on social media oh you need to i don't need to do anything what i need to do is preserve the sanctity of this relationship with the source
Starting point is 00:23:16 so the guy doesn't get whacked or killed or something i'm not doing your show so you can hype up something. So no, we're not doing that. I want to get that out there. And I addressed it on the podcast earlier because it's over the last few days. It's been ridiculous. And you know, I mean, it happens. It's fine. But you know, you get these morons out there.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You control the opposition. Whatever, dude. Go put your pacifier in your mouth. Really, it's pathetic. I disclosed information I'm sure nobody's ever told you about a massive overseas intelligence operation to spy on American citizens that weren't just Donald Trump. I'm not going to go do some random interview where
Starting point is 00:24:06 we out this guy and he gets hurt we're not doing that okay now that we got that both of those things out of the way let's talk a little bit about last night folks last night in Michigan you know the story is more of a Democrat party story last night because it's really nothing to report on the Republican side because it's the status quo. But maybe that is the story on the Republican side. I'm sure at this point, Nikki Haley is going to frame this again as a win. Jim, would you agree? The more she loses by, the greater her gaslighting efforts to let you know that voters still want a choice. They don't want a choice. They don't want you. That's just simple. They were picking Trump. Have you ever heard of numbers? So Nikki Haley last night, what did she lose by 40 or 50? I don't even know what 45 will split
Starting point is 00:24:58 the difference or something. It's over. It is the weirdest thing, though. The more she loses by, the more she gives these speeches and these, I will fight on. Voters deserve a choice. Yes. You know Ron DeSantis is on some of these ballots still too, right? No, he dropped out. Yeah, but once you're on the ballot past the deadline,
Starting point is 00:25:23 the ballots are printed. There are people that you could technically say that about anyone ron's not in the race anymore he's not running but honestly either are you you're pretending to run you're wasting a lot of donor money but there is not a single trajectory or single state you are even within a single digit margin of Donald Trump including your own state he said it wasn't a Republican story now you're talking about there but I I folks I get it man I ran in races I've lost it's hard it stinks you lose I get it I was gonna lecture me oh you didn't talk you should run I did when it. No one's going to lecture me. Oh, you should run. I did. When it's over, it's over.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Voters didn't want me. They wanted someone else. Seemed to like the radio better than me in politics. Sometimes you ask God for an answer. The answer's no. Don't ask for an answer you don't want. To the Haley team, it's over, man. It's over. You ran in your first swing state, real swing state,
Starting point is 00:26:32 with a very, very diverse population. You got smoked. You ran in a red state. You got smoked. You ran in Nevada. You lost to the known A.T. Bovee Lanoue ticket. If you watch yesterday's show you get it you ran in new hampshire or northeast you got smoked you ran in your own state you got smoked
Starting point is 00:27:00 i mean you're that you there's no state sean davis tweeted it right we love sean davis from the federalist he tweeted out nikki haley's going for the full mondale when walter mondale lost 49 of 50 states to reagan except she's trying to beat that record she's on track to lose every single state all 50. it's time to get out of the race okay now i'm really done the go right squad goals squad because you want it? Jim said it right. Hashtag goals with a Z. Like the kids throw in it. Goals. Up next is another one of our best interviews. It's from a former mobster.
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Starting point is 00:28:29 Message and data rates apply. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. The product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Michael Francis is a former member of the Colombo crime family. We talked to him about his life in the mob, what made him turn his life around, and what he applies from those lessons he learned to life now. Really interesting interview. We got a lot of great feedback on it. Check it out. I love this guy, and I'll leave it to me with a
Starting point is 00:28:54 last name like Bongino, which obviously is quite Italian, and a producer's last name is Verde, not exactly Irish. To mess up Michaelael's last name you know i know michael fran sees michael welcome back to the show i'm so sorry man people tell me i say my own last name wrong if there's any solace in it apparently if i'm a real italian it's pronounced bone gino not bon gino but you know my family just kind of picked up and adopted the name so my apologies but welcome to the show thanks for joining us well thanks Dan then for having me but you got it right you know the the Italian way would really be francese but American is franzee so you know we both do our
Starting point is 00:29:36 little thing to shorten it up but it's all good so Michael we've spoken before you got a show on Rumble we were honored to have you you got just thousands of people tune into your podcast and your show for your take on things. You were in the mob. You obviously don't hide it. You discuss it. You talk about it a lot. You apply some of the lessons learned, you know, good and bad to life today. And you become a real source for information for people.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So I guess my first question is, what was the wake up call for you where you said to yourself, you know what, man, this this this life ain't for me, you know, no bueno, I'm out. I mean, what happened? Well, you know, Dan, it was a couple of things. Number one, I met a young girl that's now my wife of 38 years and she was a young Christian girl. You know, one thing that I do say, I try to, I don't knock people into life. And, you know, obviously I was a part of it for over 20 years. My dad, you know, for over 50 years, I would say, but, you know, I say it's a bad lifestyle because I
Starting point is 00:30:35 don't know any family of any member of that life that hasn't been totally devastated, including my own. Now, not my wife and kids, but mother, father, brothers and sisters. It was just devastating to the family. And, you know, back in the mid 80s, when they started to really implement the RICO law, the Racketeering Act was devastating. And I saw guys that were a lot older than me, you know, getting convicted and getting 50 years, 100 years, 150 years. I said, man, and a lot of guys were turning informant at that point. I said, man, and a lot of guys were turning in form at that point. I said, man, this life is really in trouble. So it's kind of a combination of both.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And I said, you know what? It's time for me to get out of this and try to straighten out my life. And, you know, that was back in the late 80s. We're talking to Michael Francis. He has a show on Rumble. It's amazing. He is a very popular content creator. You know, Michael, you're right. I remember Rico. Well, racketeer induced corrupt organization.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And the essence of it, as you well know, is if you were in a mob organization, you could be held accountable for the crimes of others. So you could have been Michael Francis hanging out on a corner with a guy and find yourself with an assault one rap because someone in the mob committed a crime while you were there. It was a really devastating thing that Giuliani and others used in New York to really bust up the mob. But you saw this lifestyle from the inside. You were there. I think one of the questions I get a lot, and I know it seems kind of flippant and silly, but I hear it all the time. Matter of fact, a bunch of people are actually right now on Facebook asking me to ask you, you know, you see all these mob movies out there and they glorify this lifestyle, which you and I know is not worth glorifying. It's not. This is a this is a criminal lifestyle. It's not worth glorifying. But which ones would you say are the most realistic? I had a friend who, let's just say, knew some people
Starting point is 00:32:25 who swears it was Donnie Brasco's lefty character played by Al Pacino, that that was the most realistic portrayal they'd seen. But your thoughts on that? Well, I can tell you, I thought that Al Pacino's best role, I mean, I knew lefty pretty well, and Al Pacino, he just nailed that in every way. Not only his mannerisms and everything,
Starting point is 00:32:45 the dialogue was terrific. So I kind of agree on that. And it was a great movie. It was pretty realistic. But for me, the best movie, this may shock you, the most realistic, and I think that the script was taken off of a lot of the surveillance material, was the 1996 HBO Gotti movie with with armand de sante oh yeah dan that was so brilliant
Starting point is 00:33:11 you know i'm not just he killed a role he was so amazing in it there was a scene there with uh anthony quinn he played neil de la croce and when he came into the bar and he was sitting down with uh with goddie arm, and telling him how he almost got whacked. And if he would have got the order to whack him, it would have been done. It gave me the chills. It was brilliant. Brilliant. We're talking to Michael Francis. He has
Starting point is 00:33:36 a show on Rumble. He's a former member of the... Michael, was it the Columbo crime family you were in? The Columbo crime family. It's an amazing show I encourage you to check it out um Michael that that I saw that movie and uh you're right it is a truly incredible movie Armand DeSante and let me tell you something I'm out to dinner in New York not that long ago Michael and uh I'm with Chaz Palminteri and we're obviously talking about a
Starting point is 00:34:03 Bronx tale and uh sorry I don't mean I'm not trying to beminteri and we're obviously talking about A Bronx Tale. And sorry, I don't mean, I'm not trying to be a name dropper. It was just interesting you brought that up because my wife who loves Chaz, loves the movie. We got to talking about mob movies and the reason I respond that way is he said the same thing. That is his favorite mob movie.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And Armand DeSante as John Gotti was so convincing that if you grew up in Queens like I did, not far from Howard Beach where John Gotti's unofficial headquarters was. I mean, he played John Gotti almost better than John Gotti did. That movie was incredible. You know what, Dan? I've said that many times. And, you know, Chaz is a dear friend of mine. We actually have a platform together, The Wise and the Wise Guy, on YouTube. And we run things by each other he's a great guy but uh yeah he agreed with that he said
Starting point is 00:34:50 that was brilliant but i will say this about jazz his portrayal of sunny in the bronx also brilliant it was just amazing he did a great job amazing and you know mich, that movie never ages. It never, it is evergreen. You can watch a Bronx tale. You can watch that now. You can watch it 10 years ago. You can probably watch it 10 years in the future. And because it's a time piece and there's no cell phones that would age the project. It is just, I'm not, I mean, I'll leave this for, I'm not a De Niro fan. You don't have to comment on that, but, but I mean, his acting was amazing in that. And even the kid who plays Collogeno, just an amazing, amazing movie. We're talking to Michael Francis has a show on, on Rumble. It's, it's fantastic. I can't recommend it enough. We're happy to have him over there. Michael, one of the things I think when I had you on my Fox show, I addressed with you is, you know, you speak out of, you're not one of these guys I think when I had you on my Fox show, I addressed with you is, you know, you speak out often. You're not one of these guys who avoids politics and the politics of the day. Some of these guys, they get soft.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I don't want to talk about that. Well, OK, whatever. But there's serious stuff going on. I think I asked you on Fox once and you gave I remember your answer was so, so deep. I remember the producer in my ear during the break going, gosh, that was good. producer in my ear during the break going gosh that was good I I asked you something about how the government now given that you've been in the actual mob and you've seen it the things the mob did your government's doing now the same government that used to arrest people in the mob shaking people down threatening people intimidating people stealing people's money like what happened up in New York I mean
Starting point is 00:36:26 the parallels for a guy like yourself who's seen this lifestyle have to be eerie you know Dan I I never thought I'd see the day when they're so boldly doing the same thing we did on the street I mean it's unbelievable I I never thought I'd get to see the day where the government was acting so mob-like, but they really are. I mean, you know, it's all about money and power on the street, and they're acting the same exact way. You know, one of the scariest things, and this is what I'm trying to let people understand, you know, whenever a political party starts weaponizing, you know, the Department of Justice, the FBI, all their federal agencies to go after their political not only their political enemies but anybody that disagrees with their agenda we are in serious
Starting point is 00:37:11 serious trouble and i see that happening so much i mean look you know you say what you want about donald trump it's not even not even that it's donald trump but what they're doing to this guy i never they didn't do this to mob guys on the street. Right. Right. It's it's true. Yeah, Michael, it's true. Like the mob guys you knew on the street. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you. The mob guy, at least they got through process.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I mean, John Gotti actually got had process like he went to try. He got off on a couple of these trials, too. I mean, he had a legal process. and then in the end, he lost. It seems like Trump gets none of it. The rules have gone out the window. It's unheard of. And you know, I try to say this. At least with us, we were criminals. I mean, there's no question about it. They were investigating us for a reason. But yes, we did get due process. But
Starting point is 00:38:05 what they're doing to this guy is so dangerous. And I try to tell people, forget the fact that it's Donald Trump, whoever it is that the government weaponizes all these tools that they have to go against somebody because they disagree with them, they hate him, they don't like him, whatever the reason is, it's so dangerous for all of us and you know i just wish people would understand that because look i've always seen the government play games and i understood that we used to tell the fbi listen we get it come after us just don't frame us because we know you're capable of doing that but you know and they used to try to hide it a little bit but now it's just so out there right i know now it is it it really is it's it's it's it's
Starting point is 00:38:47 hard it's hard to digest you know michael i thought we're talking to michael francis former member of the colombo mob family is uh show on rumble now and i really a fascinating fascinating guy you know michael growing up around this in in queens uh where obviously you had different crime families and different operations and they all had territory. And you know how it worked. You know, you'd open up a shop and they'd come in and they'd say, hey, you're going to use our sanitation company. Well, the price isn't that great. They'd say, like I said, you're going to use our sanitation company. Like, you know, the way it worked and you just did it or mysteriously your place would burn down. I mean, that's the way it went down back in the day. But a lot of these guys, although some of them were, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:27 a lot of them were drug addicts and most of them, you know, at least in my day were really bad guys. One of the things about them is if you left and got out, you know, some of these guys are trying to get out. These guys would really do some damage. Do you ever find, I mean, I know you don't specifically go after guys and things like that, I get that, but do you ever get threats
Starting point is 00:39:49 or anything like that where you feel like, my gosh, you know, maybe I better be careful? Well, listen, I certainly had threats, and I know there was, without a doubt, a contract on my life. My former boss, Carmine Persico, he took it very personal when I walked away. Very personal. He was very upset, you know, and he was a very capable boss. Let me put it that way. But fortunately, he had his own troubles. He was indicted and convicted on a commission case, got 100 years. And and, you know, so I had threats back then. I mean, when I was in prison,
Starting point is 00:40:21 they kept me in lockdown because they said my life was in danger. So I went through all of that, but mainly because people thought I was going to cooperate and start putting people in prison, which I never did. So that kind of went away. But you know, Dan, the funny thing, I get threats online, you know, I mean, it's so crazy because people threaten me and I, you know, I'll tell them, well, now that I know who you are and I know your IP and all of that, I just had to be careful and navigate a course the way I did. And I've been very fortunate, Dan, very blessed. I don't know if you know this, but Fortune Magazine wrote an article back in 1986. It was the 50 most
Starting point is 00:40:59 powerful mob bosses. It was a huge article. It was like half the magazine. And it featured six of us. I was one half the magazine. And it featured six of us. I was one of the six. And they actually had a chart with the 50 of us on there, according to rank and wealth and power. And they had me as number 18. I was the youngest guy on the list, which I always say was a silly list. Don't ask me how they got that.
Starting point is 00:41:17 They didn't ask for our tax returns. We just sold a lot of magazines. But what's telling about that list today, 30 odd years later 48 of those men are dead uh number 49 is in prison and i'm the only one alive and free so let's keep it that way and blessed to be where i am today is pretty much an understatement well michael we're very pleased to have you on rumble i know you've used your platform to uh speak out and you change your life that michael thanks so much for your time. Check out his show on Rumble. You will not be disappointed. You've probably seen some of his clips go viral on some of these video sites. Up next is another one of
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Starting point is 00:43:08 Thank God Trump has stupid enemies. Check this out. Folks, this, Jim just said it, man. This, what's going on in Georgia right now with this Fannie Willis case. in Georgia right now with this Fannie Willis case. I mean, can we be a bigger intergalactic laughingstock right now? And I'm not talking about you, my listeners, the farmers, the electricians, the HVAC guys, the railroad workers, the cops, the military. I'm talking about our political leadership,
Starting point is 00:43:46 our blue cities in America. If you're watching this clown show going on right now and say you're from Uranus and you're flying over from Uranus and you're like, hey, we're from Uranusus we're here to observe what's going on you're like we are we are leaving we are leaving right now we don't jim said it don't stop don't ask for directions don't roll down the window was it was it alien sigourney reaver no? No, it was the guy character.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I forget his name. He's like, Ripley, we are leaving. That's the Uranians. Uranusanians. They're like, we are out of here. You got a guy leading the most powerful country on this rock you call Earth that could destroy the whole place with these nuclear fission weapons, and the guy still insists he was a civil rights activist in the 60s?
Starting point is 00:44:59 He can't even remember that the Giza pyramids aren't in Mexico? And now you got this Fannie Willis thing going on. During the break, I was watching it on cable news. And it's, again, it's just a humiliating embarrassment. You've got a prosecutor, just like Letitia James, who's a straight up commie, who is so dumb. She's apparently having some kind of with some dude who then she ridiculously hires to go and try to take out Trump in an obvious political hit. Then they get caught and there's a guy on TV and Jim said it right. Don't even bother. Typically, you tune into this stuff to watch the hilarity of Fannie Willis she was like yo it's my 50th man I did it big oh listen I don't know I don't want to know what you're doing big
Starting point is 00:45:51 and you're 50 this is not my business okay I'm not really interested but it was at least like tragically hilarious watching Fannie Willis humiliate the entire globe in front of the Uranians right I'm sure they're called something else. I get it. But now you got this guy up there. Now, all they want to do is figure out a way, Jim just said it, to not answer a question. Hey, you told me a while ago that you thought the relationship between Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade started. I was speculating, but you said it. I object. I object to the characterization of the speculation of the dissertation.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The judge is like, we will dissertate the speculation of the speculator, assuming the speculation was speculating on materials relevant to the prior speculation. And then the prosecutor's like uh okay um sir you said you were i object i object to the characterization of the word sir and this is a complete total laughing stock humiliating embarrassment did jim just said it Jim, turn your mic on. Say, I want the whole audience to hear that.
Starting point is 00:47:07 What did you just say? It was an absolute, completely accurate presentation of what just happened on TV. I was listening. It was a five minute back and forth about a guy saying, I think this relationship started sooner. I object. I object.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I object. He was speculating. Yeah, but yeah, judge, I, I judge i i'm asking him about the priors you're speculating about his prior speculation if you're watching this you're like oh wait you forgot the judge said wait don't ask it that way ask it this way that's right the judge is like i don't like the way you asked that ask it a different way this is like imagine you're this. You don't even know what it's about anymore. You're like, who's this guy again? What is he even talking about? That's the goal. That's the left to destroy and decimate institutions so much. What's happening right now is exactly what the left does. I think of like a Dan Goldman, one of the dumbest members of Congress by far.
Starting point is 00:48:05 He's a liberal member from New York. Guy's an absolute tool. He's on Twitter every day. And whatever you post about the Bidens, it doesn't matter how much evidence you have. He'll be like, this is a conjecture. Hunter Biden didn't say and. He used the word as. So that throws out the testimony that he was in fact a board member this is this is all they do this is all they do the country's got to be a
Starting point is 00:48:35 complete joke the Iranians are sitting here like never laugh at your own jokes. Don't. It's a terrible, terrible thing to do. I just can't take it, folks. We live. I can't. I started out the beginning of the show today. Did I not? Telling you your government hates you. It's not just that the government is full of people guilty of misfeasance.
Starting point is 00:48:57 They're guilty of malfeasance. They are actively trying to destroy your lives. It's not that they're trying to help you when they screwed up. They're actively trying to destroy your life.'s not like they're trying to help you when they screwed up they're actively trying to destroy your life here's a perfect example and it's actually segued into what I was going to talk about so funny Willis is is trying to tell people this prosecutor in Georgia going after Trump that I wasn't having an affair with this guy Nathan Wade when you say I I was it happened later and it doesn't have a lot to do with anything and let it go. So a private investigator goes and gets a hold of her cell phone data, which clearly
Starting point is 00:49:32 indicates that that story is not accurate. That this guy's phone has been around Fannie Willis's house a little more than they've been talking about. This is where the story gets totally freaking crazy. Fannie Willis, who is a prosecutor in Fulton County, Georgia, who was supposed to be a public servant, whose office has probably made and prosecuted hundreds of cases, if not thousands, involving cell phone data. In other words, this drug dealer was at that location when the murder happened. Here's his cell phone data. Fannie Willis, in order to personally escape any accountability for her ridiculously inappropriate, immature,
Starting point is 00:50:19 abominable life decisions, is now on the record saying, quote, the records do not prove in any way the content of the communications between Wade and Willis this is her team they do not prove Wade was ever at a particular location or address they don't prove Wade and Willis were ever in the same place during any of the times listed folks you understand how many cases are now going to be chucked in the future and thrown in the garbage because the prosecutor for Fulton County, Georgia, is now on the record saying, hey, man, cell phone data stuff. Yeah, it doesn't work. Now, I've got a bit of a tie in to this showing you how how sick these deranged disgusting filth lefties are they will say or do anything i'm telling you as an investigator cell phone data unless someone
Starting point is 00:51:16 stole your phone is pretty darn accurate if it says you were there ladies and gentlemen you were there, ladies and gentlemen, you were there. Again, unless someone stole your phone, I'm sorry to tell you but your phone is a homing beacon. So all these people are going to be in Fulton County jails right now. Drug dealers, murderers are now going to basically appeal their
Starting point is 00:51:41 cases saying that prosecutors lied, suggesting that the cell phone data put them at the spot when the dopey, stupid Fannie Willis is now on record saying, no, cell phone data is not accurate. Has anybody thought any of this through? Of course not. They're morons. She's on the stand.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I did 50. Oh, really? That's good to know. Thanks, Fannie, for the update on your bizarre partying behavior. These are some of the dumbest people I have ever seen. But here's the tie-in. Proving again, moron liberals will fall for anything because they're stupid. That's why they're liberals.
Starting point is 00:52:24 If they were smart,'s why they're liberals if they were smart they wouldn't be liberals they'd be sensible democrats or they'd be republicans remember when the movie 2000 mules came out the dumbest guy in media philump, spent countless because they were terrified of the movie. That cell phone data, Dinesh D'Souza did a movie called 2,000 Mules. Disclosure, I was his partner on a later movie, Police State. I was not a partner in 2,000 Mules at all, but I liked the movie. The movie was disturbing. It showed some really interesting evidence that cell phone data seemed to track a bunch of mules who kept making stops between what appeared to be ballot stash houses where they were gathering ballots and drop boxes it's an interesting movie and very compelling
Starting point is 00:53:18 the washington post philip bum the absolute dumbest guy in media i I mean, a guy so ridiculously stupid. Just watch that interview with him with the liberal guy when the Hunter Biden thing, when he gives him evidence. He's like, I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go take a dump or something. I mean, it was so embarrassing for this guy, Bump. Bump spent weeks in the Washington Post trying to discredit
Starting point is 00:53:40 and debunk the idea that cell phone data can place people out of location. Bump's not an investigator. He's a moron. I'm the expert here, right? There you go. That was it. That was Bump. I'm the expert. You got to watch the whole thing. It's hilarious watching Bump embarrass himself. What does that have to do with anything? Well, it's kind of funny that Bump spent the entire time debunking cell phone data. Well, it's kind of funny that Bump spent the entire time debunking cell phone data. And yet most of the January 6th trespassing cases were built on what?
Starting point is 00:54:11 Oh, yes. Cell phone data. So strange how when dumb, imbecile, moron liberals who are police state hacks want to make a case against conservatives. They're like, cell phone data places them inside the Capitol. They were trespassing. Throw them in the gulag. Matter of fact, kill them. Death penalty. But she's 90.
Starting point is 00:54:30 She walked through an open door. Kill her tomorrow. Firing squad. Firing squad tomorrow. Cell phone data. And then you go, oh, yeah, well, the same data was used to place Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis in a location they said they weren't at,
Starting point is 00:54:43 so she's lying. No, no, that's not accurate. No, you just said it was accurate. You demanded the firing squad for grandma on that data. No, no, it was accurate for that, not for this. Oh, what? What about the 2,000 mules? No, no, it's definitely not accurate at all for that.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It's not even close, matter of fact. It's not even the same street. You're just guessing. But it's good enough to put grandma in front of the firing squad for January 6th. Yeah, definitely. You realize you're saying the opposite thing depending on where your political allegiances are. No, I'm not. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:55:14 No, it's like literally the opposite thing. In one case, you're saying it works. In the other case, you're saying it doesn't. No, no, it doesn't. You see how they... You see how you're left scratching your head where if you're a uranian you're sitting here like i don't get it are you people sane i'm trying to process this information you people can't be this stupid jim said jim said we're not even rolling down the window
Starting point is 00:55:36 they're like we were going to stop here and conquer you idiots but we're going to turn around and we're going to go back to uranus because we just can't we can't take the stupid there must be some virus infecting the brains that happens you know they have prions and stuff you know crutzfeldt-jacobs disease and uh and mad cow disease and animals maybe they think this was like we don't want that we don't want that we don't want that getting into our population then they go home and they give their report about how dumb liberals are and the Uranians are sitting in front of the Uranian and the guys guy's like, quarantine these people. They may have brought back that stupid virus.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Quarantine. One year. Quarantine. One year. Maybe time's relative. Time dilation. It'll pass by quicker on Uranians. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:15 There you go. Quarantine these people right away. Thanks for listening to the show. You can find this show every day on rumble.com slash Bongino. You can also find it on your local radio. If you go to Bongino.com slash station, a station finder can also find that on your local radio on our station finder at Bongino.com.
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