The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 03/19/23 - Jason Whitlock, Leo Terrell, Lauren Boebert, Charlie Gasparino

Episode Date: March 19, 2023

First, we talked with Jason Whitlock about how sports became woke, how China is the biggest influence in American sports culture now, and how being conservative changed his career. Next, Leo Terrell t...alks about the release of the J6 videos and how the J6 committee should face consequences for withholding evidence in Jacob Chancely’s case. Then, Lauren Boebert talks about the newly released J6 videos, how we’re winning against media manipulation, and the Covid hearings. Finally, Charlie Gasparino on the recent bank failures and why the terrible economic policies of the Biden administration are going to lead to a world of hurt. BONUS: Dan, talking about the snowflakes at Stanford Law goes on an epic rant about safe spaces. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:29 by March 31st on qualifying purchases. Again, text DAN, D-A-N, to 989898. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Message and data rates apply. Thanks, Birch Gold. First up today, we talk with Jason Whitlock about how sports became woke and is getting woker, how China is the biggest influence in American sports culture now, and how being a conservative changed his career reporting on sports and culture. This is a really great interview. Don't miss it. So I'm really happy to have on the show a great guy, Jason Whitlock.
Starting point is 00:02:03 He's having a conference coming up on bringing religion back into our lives here. FearlessArmyRollCall.com is where you can get some information. It's in Nashville on April 15th. Probably something you want to look into. Again, the website is FearlessArmyRollCall.com. Welcoming Jason Whitlock. Jason, thanks for spending some time with us. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Dan, thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. You got it. You know, you're one of those guys, and Jim and I were both chatting about this during the break, that when I see you come on Fox, I automatically turn up the volume because I know it's going to be something I really need to hear.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Now, I've watched you on TV covering sports and culture for a really long time. And one of the stories this week that I know you were all over was this J.J. Redick, Kendrick, forgive me, I don't know. Perkins. Perkins, I'm sorry. I don't follow basketball much anymore. This fight they had over allegations that the NBA MVP award was being tainted by charges of racism. And this happened on ESPN, Jason.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And shockingly, J.J. Redick actually fought back. I discussed it yesterday on my show. I mean, what happened at ESPN? Nobody knows this process better than you. What happened over there? process better than you. What happened over there? Well, Disney bought ESPN, what, 15, 20 years ago, and just completely changed the culture at ESPN and made it work and made it part of the culture war. And then there was a time in the 2000, 2010, where the website Deadspin just really went after ESPN executives who wouldn't get on board with the woke leftist agenda and bullied the executives into getting on board with the leftist agenda. And so ESPN's culture, sports culture, the left identified very early if they were going to win the culture war,
Starting point is 00:04:09 they had to take control of sports. Sports is the number one thing on television. The NFL is the number one show on five different television networks. You're not going to win a culture war unless you control sports because sports is so powerful in popular culture. The left figured that out. They've overtaken ESPN, the worldwide leader in sports, and then they've used ESPN to impose those values and that agenda
Starting point is 00:04:40 on the rest of the sports world. We're talking to Jason Whitlock. He has a conference coming up April 15th in Nashville about bringing religion back into our lives. FearlessArmyRollCall.com. FearlessArmyRollCall.com. You should check that out. Jason, you know, I was having a conversation with a pretty influential college, let's say sports coach, and we were both lamenting the fact that sports has been hijacked.
Starting point is 00:05:06 It was really a refuge. And I don't begrudge any sports figure, entertainment figure, their ability to speak out on politics. Great, you do your thing. The problem is that's not why people are there. I mean, you go to a political conference. They got the Twitter files hearing Jason up on Capitol Hill. No one's talking about the Yankees score last night.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You don't go to a Yankees game or a college basketball game to hear lectures about politics. And what puzzles me, a guy who's forgotten more about the sports space than most people ever know, is do they really believe this is a business plan for the future?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Or do they say to themselves like, ah, you know what, we're going to lose a few, but in the end we'll gain them back? Because my daughter and my kids have never, I have a 19-year-old and an 11-year-old, have never seen organized sports in my house like I grew up in. And I'm not going to pass that down to them. Do they not see that?
Starting point is 00:05:58 They do see it, but they have a different strategy, Dan, that we have to be in tune with as it relates to these sports leagues and how much control nike has over these sports leagues and nike's interest is more about china and the 1.4 or 5 billion people in china how do they reach those consumers how do they satisfy the CCP and do more business in China rather than concerning themselves about the 300 million Americans over here? This is the problem with globalism and this and this hostility toward towards an America first agenda. Our corporations don't care about Americans. And so they're not making business decisions that think about the American consumer and the American citizen first. They're thinking about what enhances, what improves my position in China. And so Nike is,
Starting point is 00:07:05 And so Nike is, other than ESPN or in conjunction with ESPN, the two most powerful forces in sports culture in America. And Nike wants to do business in China. The NBA, David Stern, the previous commissioner, had an entire vision about making the NBA an international game, an entire vision about making the NBA an international game, landing a mammoth contract with China to broadcast games in China that would dwarf any contract they would get here in America. That's been the vision. That's been the goal. As the NFL has tried to expand its international footprint. They have less and less concern with the American consumer and America. And whether people like Donald Trump or not,
Starting point is 00:07:54 his America First agenda made sense for the overwhelming 99, 98% of Americans who aren't global citizens the america first agenda makes perfect sense and you can look at the sports world and see the ramifications and the consequences of this whole globalism agenda and global citizen agenda it's killing these leagues and so dan i'm not sure if they really care whether your daughters ever attend the games. They're worried about the daughters over in China.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You know, Jason, I don't know if I'm really young or you're really old. We can, whatever, whatever you prefer. But I grew up watching. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:37 I've, I've watched your sports coverage for, you've been doing this a really, really long time. And I wonder, given that you're really, I knew we'd go. Let's go with the former rather than I liked. You've been doing this a really, really long time. And I wonder, given that you say things. You're really young. I'm really young.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I knew we'd go. Let's go with the former rather than I like that too. But, you know, given that you've been doing this a long time, you developed a lot of relationships. I've always wondered this. If it's too personal, you don't have to answer it. But when you started saying things that weren't necessarily conservative or libertarian, but just not liberal,
Starting point is 00:09:03 when you started speaking out on culture issues in the culture of sports side and started speaking insane terms rather than just repeating you know woke focus group tested uh you know talking points were you shunned by a lot of people in the community sports community or were they quietly behind the scenes shooting you a text like hey buddy like i'm with. I just can't say anything. For a long time, I was celebrated in the industry. And so I graduated college in 1990, and I would say that things were perfectly appropriate for me all the way up to 2010, 2012.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You know, was I polarizing? Yes. Did I say things, write things in the 2000s that upset the left? No question. When Don Imus got in trouble for the nappy-headed hoes comment,
Starting point is 00:09:58 I wrote a column about, you know, why are we worried about this guy that some shock jock we never listened to when rap music is filled with all this derogatory, denigrating stuff. But at that time, you could say that, and I was celebrated for that by a lot of people. Oprah Winfrey had me on her show for two straight days talking about my position on Don Imus and things like that. But then once where things really pivoted, Dan, is when social media became. So that thing with Don Imus, I believe, happened in 2006, 2007.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I think Facebook started in 2006. Maybe Twitter started in 2007. And then they started having a real influence over culture in 2010, 2011, 2012, and that's when things got really hot for someone like me. I was saying all the same things I had said in the 90s and the 2000s, but social media had triggered everybody and geared everyone up to, oh, my God, this guy's evil. And so people started distancing themselves from me.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It was too dangerous to be my friend because I wouldn't go along with the narrative that social media and clearly the government, the FBI and the CIA were promoting. Yeah, you know, Jason, we're talking to Jason Whitlock. He has a conference coming up in Nashville, April 15th about religion, culture, bringing it back to our lives. The website, please check it out is fearlessarmyrollcall.com, fearlessarmyrollcall.com. Jason, you are so right. I brought up this point in some of my writing when I was doing a column, that social media kind of democratized mob tactics.
Starting point is 00:11:48 In the days when you were doing sports writing and there was no Twitter, which really wasn't that long ago, by the way, you know, in order to get kind of one of these mobs against you, you had to have an email list, you had to know people. Now you get some 300 follower goofball on Twitter who tags a bunch of, you know, influential air quotes sports. Oh, my gosh. Look at what Whitlock said. And next thing you know, you're trending on Twitter five hours later.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And I got to tell you, having been on the receiving end like you were probably 20 or 30 of those. Anyone who tells you it's comfortable is lying. It's it's not. I mean, if you're right, you'll defend yourself. But you know, when I knew it really like this had engulfed me, Jason, I was sitting at Epcot one day with my daughter enjoying one of my few days off. And I get involved in one of these things on Twitter that turns into a big viral thing. And I'm saying to myself, I can't believe I just blew six hours of time with my kid over this stupidity. But what you're saying is real. Social media did change everything. It changed absolutely everything.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Dan, when I started out in the newspaper industry in 1990 and I started writing a column in Kansas City in 1994, when you got hate mail, that was actually a good thing. That was a sign to the editors and your employees, oh, people care about what this guy thinks. And we'll publish those letters, the ones that are appropriate, in the newspaper, and we'll revel in the fact that, hey, Jason's got opinions that rouse people up and gets people interested in the newspaper.
Starting point is 00:13:19 That's how things used to work. Now, over social media and Twitter. It, the bosses now go hide under their desk. Oh my God, there's a Twitter lynch mob and they're saying all these terrible things about Jason. And we don't want that. And because they've got corporations that again,
Starting point is 00:13:39 they're all kowtowing to China. China's influence over American discourse is the least talked about thing going on, but that's what's going on. The reason why Colin Kaepernick and LeBron James express so much anti-American sentiment is because Nike
Starting point is 00:13:58 wants to improve its relationship with China, and China loves it when Nike athletes pretend like America is the evil place, and China is utopia, and the land of opportunity, and China ended slavery, and black people would be just so happy if they all moved to China. It's a joke. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But this social media thing has just allowed more foreign influence and manipulation, and foreign countries can pour money, throw money at our corporations, at Twitter, at our politicians, and get them dancing to that beat. And everybody thinks it's a cool thing to take a dump on the country that has created more freedom, more opportunity, more prosperity, more safety for black people than any other country on the planet in the history of the planet. And you got black people all over the world, people of color all over the world beating down doors to get into America. But we keep buying the myth that this is, you know, hell on earth for black people. It's a joke, man. I grew up poor. I grew up poor. Me and my dad in 1984, we're living in a 400 square foot, one bedroom apartment in the hood, man. This, I was no one special. I was
Starting point is 00:15:19 a good college athlete, but I wasn't some great student or whatever, but hard work and just showing up, you can make it in this country, make a few responsible decisions, put a condom on. That's really that simple. You don't have straight kids. You got a really good shot at making it in this country. But if you can't have,
Starting point is 00:15:42 you can't have that little, you know how little discipline it takes to wear a condom. If you can't have, you can't have that little, you know how little discipline it takes to wear a condom. If you can't have that much discipline, maybe you don't deserve success. You fit right in on this show, Jason. We, let me tell you something. We, we give simple life lessons on the show every day. I got to run. I want to get another plug in for your thing. I just want to say, I really, really do your work, and I love your commentary, and I love the fact that you've got moose nuts, brother. You'll say whatever. Jason's conference is in Nashville, April 15th.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You want to get there. FearlessArmyRollCall.com. Check that out. Jason, you are welcome back anytime. Thanks a lot, man. Appreciate your time. Thank you, Dan. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:21 You got it. Jim and I grew up watching Jim. Well, Jim's a little older than me, watching Jason Whitlock, man. It's just, what a good guy. That was Jason Whitlock. Up next, we talk to fan favorite, Leo Terrell. Everybody loves Leo.
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Starting point is 00:18:04 Knows a lot about this. Here's Leo on this topic and more. All right, now this guy, you all know him. You love him. He hasn't been back in a little while, to my chagrin, because I love having him on this show. But we'll take him whenever we can get him. Our good friend, Leo Terrell.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Leo, thanks for spending a few minutes with us. We love you, man. Dan, thank you for having me. I just want to ask you one simple question that we could moverell. Leo, thanks for spending a few minutes with us. We love you, man. Dan, thank you for having me. I just want to ask you one simple question and then we can move on. Yes, sir. Do I have to go to Florida to get an autographed, signy book signed
Starting point is 00:18:32 called The Gift of Failure? Because if I do, I'll come to Florida. I know you're not coming to LA. Do I need to go to Florida? That's just a simple yes or no. Well, that's interesting because I think you may have jumped the gun there i may actually be in la yeah yes sir so i'm thinking about a book tour and you know me and you are on kabc radio
Starting point is 00:18:53 and we're trying to put together some locations now and we have to find see when you write a book you want to go to a new york times reporting store so you can get on the list, right? So we have to find locations that have a bookstore and a station we're on. So LA kind of fits the block. So we're working on it. But Leo, I will personally deliver that book to you in LA. Or if not, I'll mail you
Starting point is 00:19:17 and you do not have to come. I want to go to a Dan Bongino book signing. If it's in Florida, I'm going to surprise you. If it's in LA, I'm going to surprise you. I'm going to walk straight up to you and have you sign it. I'm going to completely shock you. I'm waiting for the announcement of the book. You know, the crowd will go nuts if Leo shows up.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Leo, the crowd went crazy when my uncle Jim showed up in Huntington, Long Island. I'm not kidding. My uncle just randomly shot and seen him in years. I'm like, oh, look, there's my uncle Jim. Everybody's like, ah! They never met the guy if leo shows up it'll be they will go crazy so i would appreciate that you thank you for mentioning the book it's uh it means a lot to me i put a lot into this book so it means a lot uh leo you are an actual civil liberties attorney like someone who's actually
Starting point is 00:19:59 fought for civil rights so no one's going to lecture you on the topic. You know, the January 6th videos, I've just did a whole two-hour block on this, Leo. You know, we can hold two simultaneous thoughts at the same time. We're human beings. A lot of the things that happened on that day, we can condemn and say, all right, that shouldn't have happened.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Okay, because we're thinking human beings. But we can also say, as believers in the Constitutional Republic and liberty and freedom for all, that because some bad things happen doesn't mean that you get to throw people in jail just because you don't like their politics and then hide evidence. Now, as an attorney, you can attest to my audience correctly that a correct that Brady violations are withholding exculpatory evidence. Leo, that's kind of a really big deal, right? I'm not crazy. Dan, you are spot on.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Brady is a constitutional, okay, Brady versus Maryland, big case. It is a mandatory requirement for the prosecutor to turn over all exculpatory evidence. What Tucker has displayed on his show the last two nights, that QAnon man, who he was escorting. That's what I'm talking about that that is exculpatory evidence and for that evidence not to be produced you're talking about the prosecution being sanctioned and some type of referral if I was that uh individual's attorney I would ask for an immediate solid immediate writ and have that case reconsidered immediately
Starting point is 00:21:22 that's unbelievable I mean Leo he got the guy we're talking about, Jacob Chansley, they called the QAnon shaman by media people in the Chewbacca costume, whatever it was. Leo, he got four years in prison. I mean, I don't understand what is it now. Just answer me one question as a lawyer, because I know this area is a little bit gray.
Starting point is 00:21:44 With Brady material, in other words, the requirement by a government prosecutor and an agent to turn over evidence of someone's innocence. If I'm going to prosecute Jim for robbing a bank and I find out he was in Acapulco when the bank in Maryland was robbed, I'm obligated to turn that over. Having said that, the argument, Leo, some people have used is, well, they turned over the library of whatever it was, 41,000 hours of video. No, no, no. You're not allowed to play cute, Leo. You're not allowed to bury a document in six truckloads of documents,
Starting point is 00:22:16 a document you know exists and points to Leo Terrell or Jim's innocence and then say, oh, we gave you three truckloads. My fault. You didn't see it. I'm not crazy, right? You're not allowed to play cute with evidence like that. You cannot play the needle in a haystack game. They have an affirmative obligation. I can't say it any clearer.
Starting point is 00:22:33 They have an affirmative obligation to make sure they go through all that evidence, and they have an obligation to turn over that evidence. They have to do the homework. They're in control, custody of all the evidence. They have an affirmative obligation, and there is no excuse for it. I'm telling you, that man not only has a chance to have that case reversed, he's going to have a nice civil lawsuit. I'm not trying to promote that, but he has a nice civil lawsuit because of their obligation. It's constitutional. It is Brady versus maryland every civil rights attorney every criminal
Starting point is 00:23:06 attorney knows that case and every prosecutor knows it dan yeah and and every every agent police officer does too leo because you'll once you i don't i i think with the with the public who didn't do what we did in that line of work needs to understand is if you're a federal agent or an attorney and you're, you're, you're found to have violated the Brady requirements, that's disclosable in additional cases in the future. So when Dan Bongino say federal agent, Dan Bongino is on the stand,
Starting point is 00:23:35 that's going to be used to impeach me in every single case from that point on. So if you get caught in Brady, yeah, go ahead, Leo. Sorry. Let me go one step further. If Dan Bongino got caught with holy Brady evidence,
Starting point is 00:23:47 Dan Bongino is a cancer to the department because they can't use him anymore. They're going to use that for impeachment and they're going to go back and look at all your other cases. So forward, backwards, and forward. You're a dead man walking. You're no good. Yep, they'll fire your ass right away.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah, they'll fire you right away. And they'll fire you right and they tell you that in the federal law enforcement training center they're clear about that that if you get nailed on giglio or brady so you're gone like they'll they have zero use for you whatsoever it's you are 100 accurate you are useless you can never be used as an undercover as an arresting agent as a case agent nothing let. Let me move on to, we're talking to Leo Terrell, just a great guy, one of our most popular guests and an actual civil liberties attorney who's fought for civil rights unlike these idiots in the media. So Leo, this thing about mandates, it's always bothered me, vaccine mandates, mask mandates,
Starting point is 00:24:40 because I live in a free country. If you want to get the shot, then go ahead and get the shot. If you're willing to take the risk, you want to put a mask on, go right ahead and knock yourself out. I've never had a problem with people who choose to do it. I have a problem with government telling us what to do with it. But where's the old civil liberties left that you knew well? I mean, where's the ACLU and groups, you know, you might've fought alongside with in the past
Starting point is 00:25:03 because you're an actual civil libertarian. What happened to the left you used to know and does that explain your departure from the democrat party and over to the conservative cause is that is that what happened is that was that part of it yes i'm going to be great question first of all that that that civil liberty section of the left it's gone it's silent it's quiet and damn that's one of the left, it's gone. It's silent. It's quiet. And damn, that's one of the reasons why they don't believe in liberty or freedom. They're not fighting for that. They want power and control. And what has happened to the left is simply we will do anything, we will say anything for power and control. And they got a big ally. It's called 95% of the media. And I'll tell you right now, that's not how I grew up with civil rights.
Starting point is 00:25:48 That's not what I believe in. I don't believe in controlling one's life. I believe in letting individuals make choices for themselves, and that's one of the major reasons why I left the left. It's crazy. The left is crazy. Yeah, it's worrisome because I think back to the old Bill Clinton, JFK, Democrat party era, big governments over, JFK arguing for lower marginal tax rates. And I wonder what happened myself.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Let me get to another topic involving civil liberties. I've been talking a lot about this lately because it's an area that concerns me as well. It was an FBI memo released not that long ago, and the memo whistleblower leaked it, showing that the FBI was targeting potentially Catholics who attended Latin mass. Now, Leo, you've read the constitution. You're an actual lawyer. I'm pretty sure you're right to practice your religion.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's kind of written into the constitution somewhere. Call me crazy. But this kind of stuff really worries me. And what worries me even more is as a former man of the left who understands him again, where's the media and the ACLU and these other groups when it comes to the weaponization of government? I mean, it seems like now with the January 6th stuff and with the weaponization of the FBI, it almost appears like they're actually enjoying this. They are because, damn, right now they're able to get away with it. The uninformed basically
Starting point is 00:27:10 follows. You know, there's a lot of people, Dan, that believe that government tells the truth. The government is a liar. The U.S. government lies to the American people. But there's a large segment of the American population that believes everything the government has said. And I'll tell you right now, you know it, you talk about it. The government has been weaponized. The FBI, Department of Justice. Dan, I'm not tooting your horn, but I said, man, you need to be the FBI director because it is corrupt.
Starting point is 00:27:36 No, I'm serious. It's absolutely corrupt and it's weaponized. I mean, listen, they are upset with Tucker for releasing information. I know, I know. I've never seen it. Leo, think about it. Brother, you're singing my tune. I said this the first two hours of my show I've been on this topic.
Starting point is 00:27:53 This is how crazy this is. Nobody is condoning violence. Nobody's suggesting the videos of the violence didn't happen. But here's the weird part, Leo. Tucker is literally releasing videos that not a single person questions are authentic they came from the capitol police and kevin mccarthy the house they're real and the media's take leo this is where you and i do this for living is the most insane i've ever seen their take is this those videos are real and you shouldn't see them because
Starting point is 00:28:21 we don't like them and you're wait, that's not a real take. And the liberals are like, yeah, man, sounds good to me. Dan, the most important reason is, I learned this in law school, the first question is why? Because it destroys their false narrative. And that's the reason why they're mad. See, that proves my point. They don't have any problem lying.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And what Tucker's done is expose the lie. And they are angry. They're furious. they can lie and they had that guy for 26 months i can't let you go without i'm going to put you on the spot here so you want me to be the fbi director all right i i'd i'd only because of you several times if i get mad if i know i know i follow you if i if our guy trump gets in again i'd consider it but uh i think he should consider you for the vice presidential nod what do you think would you take that let me tell you right now thanks for that offer i want to be white house council i want to be inside there yes yes voice piece for president trump if he asked me to be a white house council i'm gonna i love I'm going to tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I love that idea. I love that idea. I'll do that on a second notice. You're the FBI director. Jim, what do you think? I'm the White House counsel. Jim loves it too, Leo. Leo Terrell, White House counsel.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I can imagine you with your legal skills you're you're comfortable in front of cameras and your smarts I could see you in a VP debate just slaying the others it would just be so bad I would I'd love to hear them lecturing you on civil liberties and racism oh okay thanks thanks for your opinion appreciate that. Except I've lived it and fought for it. I would love to see you go. Let me just epic. If that was the case, Dan, heavyweight versus peewee weight Kamala Harris. Are you kidding me? Heavyweight versus they won't. Thanks for that fight. That fight won't last. laugh. My God. Leo, thank you, buddy. I'm
Starting point is 00:30:28 seeing you up on the stage now, and I'm like, this could be the greatest TV I've ever seen. Leo Terrell, thank you so much for coming on. I know it's a hassle. You take your time out of your day. You're a busy guy. Thanks, buddy. My audience loves you. It's good to have you, pal. Good to talk to you. Thanks for coming on.
Starting point is 00:30:43 My pleasure. Love you. That was Leo Terrell. Up next is Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. It's good to have you, pal. Good to talk to you. Thanks for coming. My pleasure. Love you. That was Leo Terrell. Up next is Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. We'll get to that in a second, but let me tell you about our next sponsor. Today's show is brought to you by HelixSleep.com, H-E-L-I-X, HelixSleep.com slash Dan. Sleep, listen, as you get older, is critical. That deep, deep healing sleep. Folks, it changed my life.
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Starting point is 00:31:58 HelixSleep.com slash Dan. With Helix, better sleep starts now. Here's Representative Boebert talking about the newly released January 6th videos, how we're winning against media manipulation and the COVID hearings. Check this out. One of my favorite guests, just favorite people in D.C. altogether, because we have a rule on the show, the no squish rule. We don't allow any squishes because there's an opportunity cost to our time.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It's limited here with you. So someone who's definitely not a squish and is willing to fight for something is Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. Congresswoman, thank you for joining us again. We really appreciate it. Dan, thank you so much. Gosh, your intro just fires me up from your show talking about taking on the radical left and draining the putrid swamp and then your intro of me i'm ready to go take them on now let's go the putrid swamp thing's hilarious because jim's original proposed opening did not say that remember that jim and i'm like now this is when congressman before the show even started we're doing these production meetings and i'm like nah we're being too nice here like we need a word that really describes the swamp. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:33:09 you know a lot about in DC that you're trying to combat now. I said, let's go with putrid. He's like, nah, it doesn't sound monotone. I'm like, let's do it anyway. And that's how that stuck. So listen, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. The dividends of your work in the race for speaker, I just want to note again, are already paying off. So all of those haters out there who said you guys were crazy for extending the fight for speaker just for a few days. No big deal. We got Kevin McCarthy to release the January six tapes. We've got him to stand by some firm conservative things. I know you're going to stay on it. It's no time to pop the champagne. But wouldn't you agree like that fights are paying dividends already? Absolutely. We received so many tools from that speakers race that we have been fighting to obtain in Washington, D.C. for decades. And now is the time to put those tools to use. We've already been executing a lot of
Starting point is 00:34:06 great things, but I don't want to only sit and admire the tools that we have. I want to get some nicks and dings in them. And I want to bust these babies open and actually put them to use. What good are the tools if we don't use them? So that's what we're all working on right now. We got the weaponization committee going. We have the COVID select committee going. We're looking into the origins, the CCP, what they're doing, buying our farms and our water, our resources and so much more. Holding China accountable. And then, you know, on oversight, Chairman Jamie Comer, I think he is one of the most aggressive chairmen that we have in the house right now he is and he is ready to uh start flinging subpoenas he's he's got a process
Starting point is 00:34:53 we're working on it we're we're not like the democrats we we follow a little bit of rules and uh you know we're going to start bringing these people in by the dozens and it's going to be amazing yeah and i love how the liberal media is making this out like it was some kind of a scan like a scandal i got a laugh they're like they're asking kevin mccarthy the other day did conservative members ask you for conservative stuff in exchange for their vote for speaker and i'm looking i'm listening congressman i'm like is this a real question no no they didn't they didn't. They asked for liberal stuff. Like, that's a serious question from these idiots.
Starting point is 00:35:28 That's how bizarre they are. But the stuff you guys lobbied for, conservative stuff, in your vote for speaker, which is a, that is a feature, not a glitch, liberal media. That's what we're supposed to do. You're so right. These hearings have already produced dividends. Let me ask you a question about that. So yesterday we had the Twitter files hearings and they really, I have to tell you,
Starting point is 00:35:50 you don't have to agree with me. You're in Congress. You say it how you like, but I think the Democrats exposed themselves yesterday as some of the communists they are. I'm not kidding. Congresswoman, you had a,
Starting point is 00:36:01 you had the delegate from the Virgin Islands, the almost demanding a journalist protected by our constitution literally written into the first amendment expose his sources and the twitter files drop in front of the entire country it's the craziest thing i've ever seen yes you know democrats are able to hide any person they want any source that they want they could just make up anything. And, you know, you even have Benny Thompson saying, oh, I never even saw the January 6th videos. You know, so they get to cover up all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And then they want every little source, every little detail to try to put us in some sort of gotcha moment. No, you're part of the federal government. You are here to protest our First Amendment rights rights and you're not going to go after journalists and get them to expose their sources when they're just reporting the truth to the American people. on. And then we see Democrats, they actually, the federal government was actually working with NewsGuard to prop up certain news organizations, not just feed them a story. That happens all the time. I like this news outlet. I'm going to feed them a story. I like Dan Bongino. I'm going to go on his radio show and talk. No, no, no. They're actually paying. They're incentivizing advertisers to to pay for their ads on certain news outlets publications. This is absolutely wrong. And the way they treated these journalists was an absolute disgrace.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm proud of them for coming in, taking a stand and speaking out about what they know. And these committees, you know, one of my favorite authors, this guy Fred Siegel, he's written books about, one of them is called Revolt Against the Masses. And in there, he discusses how liberals basically move liberalism along through the telling of narratives, stories, not the truth, but stories. And he talks about Congresswoman and the Iron Triangle all the time. And the Iron Triangle is congressional committees,
Starting point is 00:38:04 activist groups, and the liberal media. He says he says in other words think it through right you want you want to you want to push out a liberal narrative like the polar bears are dying or whatever it may be right you get a congressional committee to do a hearing show some pictures of some dying polar bears right an activist group takes it and runs with it pins are everywhere on a college campus save the polar bears right and then you have the media running stories on cbs news and rachel maddow oh my gosh the polar bears are dying they've been doing this for years now as a member of congress for a few years now so now you know the routine you've been there you know you got the lay of the land i am so grateful that members of the republican party the good ones not the swampy ones the good ones like yourself are starting to figure
Starting point is 00:38:43 this out that this stuff matters. I'm sorry that I really am sorry that there's a performance component to politics. I wish there weren't. But this is the real world. And the Republicans are finally figuring it out. You guys want to use congressional committees to show the world what's going on. We're going to show the world what's really going on in our committees. That's exactly right. And we actually have real oversight now. We've been stifled and unable to have congressional oversight in the House of Representatives for several years now because Democrats held the gavels. And now we have those gavels and we are
Starting point is 00:39:17 actually able to conduct oversight in the federal government. What a concept. These agencies that were created by congress funded by congress well really by the taxpayers but appropriated by congress they have to answer to us now come in and tell us what is going on even in oversight we've had hearings on the waste fraud and abuse with the covid money that went out over 500 billion dollars. Yeah. Yes. Such an embarrassment. I mean, we had money going to Japanese prisoners.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I mean, come on. This is absolutely ridiculous. But we brought in yesterday a director of OPM, and she's not even able to state how many federal employees are currently working full-time she tried to dodge the question with my colleague Byron Donald from Florida a great man glad to have him on oversight he's great he asked her how many federal employees have actually even gone back to work with with OPM. We've already talked about the fraud, abuse and waste. And what about all this other waste is still going on? How many people are working from home and not even logging in on their laptop? And she was not able to give
Starting point is 00:40:36 them that number. Instead, she said, oh, it's in a public report. You can look it up. Well, ma'am, we brought you in to have these answers. And so when I questioned her, I said, actually, I just looked at the report and the report doesn't state it. Oh, well, we're working on that. This is a problem. When you have a director of OPM coming in and saying we don't know how many federal employees are actually back to work when COVID is over. That is still waste, fraud and abuse occurring in our federal government. But we're getting to the bottom of it by having these hearings.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah, no, they're great. I mean, imagine a CEO saying that. How many people you got in your tech department? Yeah, I don't know. Can you figure it out? Yeah, maybe we'll figure it out one day. I mean, you'd be fired immediately. Your stock would take a dump
Starting point is 00:41:20 and it was instantaneously. We're talking to Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, one of the good ones out there who we really like. Congresswoman, a couple more topics here. Fauci yesterday appeared on Fox News on Neil Cabuto's show where he goes to, you know, do his mea culpa's and fake ones. And he's insisting again that he did not push lockdowns, still trying to push some evidence about this potential wet market theory. And he
Starting point is 00:41:46 said, you know, I wasn't the one who kept CDC director Redfield off the call about the potential lab leak. I just don't trust this guy. And, you know, he just reminds me of the Motley Crew song, you know, girl don't go away, man. Just go away at this point. I mean, he's been on the wrong side of everything.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It's true. Yes, you know, I want to see him in cuffs and not those invisible cuffs that aoc carries around uh fauci needs to be locked up for what he has done to the american people uh we are seeing the origins of covid we knew it all along um it's coming out and uh we're seeing that this was um absolutely gain of function and you talk about it often on your show very clearly and eloquently, getting this information out to the people. I'm so grateful for that. But Fauci did push lockdowns.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He did push masks. He did push vaccines and vaccine mandates. So many thousands, tens of thousands of Americans, if not more, whether it be financially, whether it be our children in school or even spiritually with the lockdown of churches, how many churches are back to their full capacity? scenes that were forced on them. There's so much that he did that was absolutely wrong. And he needs to to be held accountable to the fullest extent for his actions. You know, I have never been the type. I am a civil libertarian at heart. I said this repeatedly to call for the weaponization of government on either end. But I've got to tell you, this guy, there appears to be some significant evidence that he may have obstructed justice in the investigation of what may be one of the biggest criminal acts in human history which is the release whether accidental
Starting point is 00:43:35 or purposeful i don't know from the wuhan lab and if he did anything to obstruct that investigation that is a very very serious serious thing. And he definitely, I don't disagree with you at all that there should be an investigation here and maybe a criminal one of what they did. Last question though, Congresswoman, we're talking to Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. The Biden budget, it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:43:57 It's an embarrassment. It's a $6.8 trillion gorge fest of pork and just crazy insanity included in it it or five trillion in new taxes the hilarious part is he thinks this is a campaign document for him to run in 2024 my question to you in the final two minutes here is you know you're up again in two years i think you're great we're going to support you get you re-elected again but i think this is a gift to you i think you should be going out to all your constituents in colorado, hey, here's what this guy wants. I support none of that. I support economic freedom and money in your wallet instead. Absolutely. And Dan, look, I support a balanced budget, but my main focus is
Starting point is 00:44:37 what can we do with the majority this year and next year? What are the cuts we can make now? And that starts with repealing the $400 billion for the student loan forgiveness that Joe Biden issued, repealing the Green New Deal out of the so-called Inflation Reduction Act, and so much more. We could start clawing this money back and saving the American taxpayer money now. We need to return to 2019 pre-COVID spending levels. You know, the government was still big then. It's not like we're shrinking it that much, but we do need to shrink it some in order to save America.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And that's what we're running on. House Freedom Caucus came out with our proposal today. And this is a stake in the ground. This is a great foundation to build from. I think there's still more money that we can rescind and unobligated COVID funds and so much more. But casting the American people more is not the answer. His plan is disastrous. His budget is dead on arrival. And I think it's disgusting and disingenuous that he would say that this is investing in America because it is not.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It does not help people put food on the table, put gas in their cars or or provide good paying jobs. So families want the stress about child care and all of their utilities and all of this is going on. No, it's an investment in Washington, D.C., in bureaucrats and in special interest groups and lobbyists. And that is what is so wrong about this town, and that's what we're fighting to undo. Wow, what a pro. I said two minutes. You, like, hit it to the mark.
Starting point is 00:46:12 It was almost like you had a timer. You clearly, you've done a few media hits, one or two here or there, correct? I got this. You know, I get gaveled out when I'm out of time. Man, you're good. That was very good. Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, you're always
Starting point is 00:46:25 welcome back on the show, and thank you for always fighting the good fight up there. We appreciate it. Happy to do it. Thanks, Dan. That was Lauren Boebert. Up next is Charlie Gasparino about the Silicon Valley bank crisis, what really happened. He's got some really good insight, and he broke some news
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Starting point is 00:47:42 Minimum order may be required. Here's Charlie Gasparino on the banking crisis. Is this thing going to spread? So I'm fascinated by this topic for a number of reasons. Unfortunately, a lot of them are not really great or value adding to society. The fact that we can't get our heads out of our collective asses and figure out how to run a financial system, you know, without the government screwing everything up every day, doesn't put a smile on my face. I'm in the same financial system. I don't want to see the country collapse. That's not my goal here. My goal here is to explain to
Starting point is 00:48:17 you the problems we're dealing with and how we can potentially move to a kind of more prosperous tomorrow by not repeating the same mistakes we keep making. Here to talk about it, a great guest, really smart guy, Charlie Gasparino, works over at Fox News, colleague over there, really smart guy. Charlie, thanks for spending some time with us. We appreciate it. Anytime, Dan. How are you? I'm good. So I've been listening to a lot of your commentary. I always do. I always turn the volume up when you're on. And this Silicon Valley bank debacle, you know, I find so many people over explaining it's why I like your commentary. It seems to me from looking at it to be a simple old school bad decision on maturities, a mismatch there, which is, you know, as old as finance and really awful management.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I mean, how did they not see that interest rates were going to go up? Even the Fed chairman said they were going to go up. Right. And it's not even that. I mean, you know, if you follow this bank, listen, a friend of mine used to work there. So I got a little insight into this thing. If you follow this thing, you know, this was a business that really blew up during the wicked money printing of 2020 and beyond. Like when we were literally spending money like crazy, locking everybody down, right,
Starting point is 00:49:36 giving money to checks for people to stay home, which was, in retrospect, one of the dumbest things you could probably do. which was, in retrospect, one of the dumbest things you could probably do. The Federal Reserve was taking interest rates to zero and printing money at an enormous clip. This bank took off. It was kind of perfectly situated to take off. Because, as you remember, in 2020, tech took off, right? Because everybody was doing Zoom.
Starting point is 00:50:06 There was tons of money swashing around Wall Street for the next three years that needed to be put to work. And a lot of that money was involving tech. So its business model was essentially to be the banker, the sort of local banker for the VC community in Silicon Valley. And it grew from something like $50 billion in assets to $200 billion in assets in a relatively short period of time. In the middle, in that time, if you look at its books, if you look at what type of business it did, it essentially was handing out loans to venture capital companies. So a venture capital company, excuse me, the portfolio companies of venture capital and private equity. What I mean by that is a private equity company buys other companies, right? Those companies nominally run themselves with financing from their ownership
Starting point is 00:50:56 of private equity, which is KKR. Same thing with the venture capitalists. They buy companies, they seed companies, they essentially own most of the company or a chunk of the company. And that company runs by itself, but with input from the private, from their VC backer. In running those companies for themselves, they need to have a banking relationship and they did it with these guys. And these guys would extend them lines of credit, various types of loans, collateral-backed loans, you name it. There's all this very intricate stuff that they did to that VC portfolio company community and private equity community out there in Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:51:44 In return, those companies would do their banking with these guys and give them their money. If they had money that they needed to put aside, which they all do, for payroll and short-term expenses, it was at Silicon Valley Bank. Think about that. That is the least diversified business model you could think of. One industry that is highly, highly reliant and dependent on the continuation of low interest rates, because that's what was fueling the sort of startup VC industry, particularly in tech, was low interest rates and lots of money. The minute that spigot got turned off, guess what? Tech started to crater. Remember?
Starting point is 00:52:26 Facebook off its highs. They're all laying, everybody, all Salesforce off its highs. And if you think about that, those are the profitable companies. Think about if you're a VC portfolio company, which is still in early stages and not making any money. You have more. You have more money problems. So put that together. Okay, so the bloom is off the rose in the VC tech community.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Those companies are cutting back on all their borrowing from Silicon Valley Bank. Maybe some of them are going belly up on their their on their borrowings on their lines of credit and on top of that they now have to pull money out of the bank so they're reducing their deposits and you get what you have here that someone smells that and then rumors spread and the run is on and that's essentially what you had here here's the real question and i know that the democrats keep saying oh you know they they loosened dodd-Frank and that caused, you know, the banks that had less than $200 billion were no longer regulated by the Fed, which is wrong, by the way. Here's what they did with Dodd-Frank. All they did was said, if you are under $200 billion in assets, you are no longer a systemically important bank.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You're not JP Morgan. You're not going to blow up the whole system. So those systemically important banks get double the regulatory oversight than you. You still get regulatory oversight. You just don't get the additional proctology exam that JP Morgan gets, right? You still get exambed a lot. Not just me. Now, here's the thing. In the middle of this exam, how come these guys, the Federal Reserve,
Starting point is 00:54:12 and it would be the San Francisco Fed, they didn't know that these guys had the most leveraged business model to one community that's highly interest rate dependent? I just don't understand it. I mean, it's just mind-bogg, it's, it's mind boggling. And this is not about deregulation. This is about that. I mean, this is really a story that, that
Starting point is 00:54:31 regulation never catches this stuff. It doesn't. And I'm reading a, I'm reading a piece by, uh, by Galston in the journal, right before I came on the air and Galston's suggesting that exactly what you just said, that we shouldn't have modified Dodd-Frank that these government regulators are quote better positioned to find this stuff and listen I read Galston stuff all the time they never how where is he getting that from Charlie I'm only 48 you know I read his stuff too at times but it's it they never catch it and you know but they never catch it I bet you if they did a stress test, they wouldn't have caught it. Because they don't stress.
Starting point is 00:55:09 First of all, a lot of these stress tests are BS. They're known often on Wall Street as feather tests, by the way. And don't they overweight government-denominated assets anyway? Of course they do. But here's really the best stress test in the world. Stop printing money. Stop debasing the currency. Shocker. economy has more money floating around than goods to buy, you're going to find people are going to do stupid things. They're going to go out on the risk spectrum.
Starting point is 00:55:51 They're not going to put their money in a bank because banks are flush with cash and they give you 0%. They put their money in other things, crypto, meme stocks, crazy stocks with no earnings. Remember all those things blew up? That's all because of this. It's all because of 0% interest rates. Remember all those things blew up? That's all because of this. All because of zero percentage rates.
Starting point is 00:56:16 A lot of other things, you know, real estate that quintuples in value and they still put it in because money is abundant and interest rates are zero. The minute you turn to do a 180 on that, you start exposing the cracks that that easy money created. Now, I guess the point is, why didn't we just keep interest rates at zero and let everything go on? And, you know, Silicon Valley Bank wouldn't have went under and we wouldn't have a recession. Well, then you get like massive inflation. And I don't think people understand is how,
Starting point is 00:56:39 you know, we're just, we're in the throes right now, beginning throes of inflation. I grew up in the 70s. My dad was a construction worker who drove a cab and bartended. And the reason why he did three is because he couldn't get by on one. And that's what inflation does. Okay, you could have a job, but it's almost like a recession.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You're just working through it, you know, just busting your rear end. And the other thing is, a lot of times when you have that runaway inflation, and it usually means wages never really keep up with the price increases. That's one of the problems. It's called the wage price spiral. It just never happens, you know. Your wage growth is constantly chasing the inflation of the goods that you need to just survive, there comes a point where people just start cutting back, and then you get a recession anyway.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So, you know, you've got to pick your poison. We're now in the poison part, that because we did all this stupid stuff, we're going to have to pay the piper, or else we're going to have 6%. I mean, I'm telling you, man, today, the market's going crazy because they think, oh, inflation came down a little bit. Right, they're going to dial back that rate hike. That's what they think. You know what, I'm going to give you a question. Now, if he comes in with a 50 basis points hike,
Starting point is 00:57:54 he'll collapse the whole market. I'm going to give you a scoop right now that I'm about to hit the button on on my Twitter feed before you called. All right. I'll break it here on Dan Bongino's show. Federal Reserve is likely to tighten another 25 basis points were you called? All right. I'll break it here. Very nice. On Dan Bongino show. Awesome. Federal reserve is likely to tighten another 25 basis points, despite sentiment that Powell will hold amid the S S B V implosion.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Senior banking executives tell Fox business. What do you think happens to the market, Charlie? If that, if that goes, cause they're expecting nothing. The market right now is pricing. It's going to,
Starting point is 00:58:24 you know what the bed. Yeah. Yeah. I totally agree, Charlie. I got about a minute left, but being a guy who understands basic economics quite well and can explain it, does it ever really piss you off that there's a solution to all of this? Like Reagan figured it out, you know, get a reasonable control over the money supply and then enhance your productivity curve so you can produce more stuff to suck up all the money. Like there's an actual solution out there and they don't want to do it. They just want more taxes in government. Well, yeah. And cut, scale back the massive regulations and let, let, let money start flowing to things. Now, you know, every time there's a blow up, they blame it on
Starting point is 00:58:59 lack of regulation when it's usually the economic incentives that cause it. And, you know, I, you know, we could talk about this all day. What's going on in Washington right now, who controls stuff, particularly on the Democratic side, is not confidence building. I mean, we really have the least economically competent guy. I always thought Obama was economically incompetent. It's worse than that. Obama looks like Calvin Coolidge compared to competent guy. I always thought Obama was economically incompetent. Joe Biden's worse than that. Obama looks like Calvin Coolidge compared to this guy. I mean, this guy.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I don't know, Charlie, if it's stupidity or weakness with this guy, with Biden, but the things he says are just insane. I mean, tomorrow I'm going to go into, he just said again the other day that we may need fossil fuels for 10 more, 10 more years. Are you crazy? We're like 50 years away from that. How does he know?
Starting point is 00:59:50 How does he know? I mean, this guy can't string together a sentence without tripping over himself. Exactly. He's predicting when fossil fuels are going to go by the wayside. I mean, Janet Yellen is just pathetic. She's a complete academic that's never done anything. You would expect more out of Powell, but, you know, he copied Yellen's playbook, and he gave in to them and just kept cutting rates and printing money. He should have stopped.
Starting point is 01:00:20 You know when we should have stopped? People are going to shake their head. But I think we were coming out of it after when Biden got elected in early 2021. We were coming out of everything. Businesses were opening. We had a vaccine that worked modestly, at least at first. We weren't going to go back to shutdown. We weren't going to have that hell anymore. And, you know, we just kept printing money and spending money.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And, you know, you can't have an experience like that and not have the sort of dislocations we're seeing right now. And by the way, I know people keep saying printing money, spending money. Haven't we done that forever? No, not at this level. Debt is 138% of GDP right now. Yeah, we haven't seen numbers like this we've surpassed now we're coming out of a world war world war ii charlie i'm out of
Starting point is 01:01:11 time i gotta run i'd love to do like an hour or so on my podcast you're a fascinating guy charlie thanks a lot for your time appreciate you coming on thanks dan bye you got it folks he's not wrong we have never seen debt like this accumulated by any government in the history of the known cosmos. That's a fact. Nominal or real debt, there has never been anything like it in the history of human beings.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And before we go, as a little supplemental, I asked Jim to include this. For all of those out there on the liberal side, the wokesters who believe that there's safe spaces, Jim and I had a lot of fun with this rant that happened on the radio on Thursday this past week, and we wanted you to hear it for yourself. Check this out. Jim, cue up for me.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Cut one. This is federal judge Kyle Duncan. He's speaking at the Stanford Law School. Again, what the hell would a judge want to talk to a law school? I mean, it's crazy. What would he have to offer, right? And of course, he's interrupted by woke lunatics screaming and yelling like raving banshees like that x-men character banshee screaming wetting their diapers need little wipeys to clean them up mommy needs to come for him you
Starting point is 01:02:16 by the way you disgust me oh dan get to the video no no i want to complain a bit you disgust me you woke little loser punks you're such such little zeros. I mean, how pathetic and disgusting your horrible little lives are. You sit there in Stanford Law School, right? You've been pampered your whole life, you wussbags. You're shameless wussbags. You've probably spent the equivalent of 90% of your life in your mommy's basement eating Pop-Tarts, looking at your favorite OnlyFans account. That's what you do with your time. And somehow, you know, daddy's money got you into Stanford law,
Starting point is 01:02:50 and you got a federal judge up there, an accomplished guy, and because he's appointed by Trump and won't use preferred pronouns for an accused kiddie rapist, you start melting down and taking a leak in your diaper. Oh, my gosh, I wet myself. You're such little wuss bags. And then if you're listening right now to the woke liberals, know this, we can't stand you.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Oh my gosh, you should be nice. You're supposed to be getting listeners. I don't want you to listen. Tune out. I really despise you. Everything you stand for, I hate. Everything. Everything you stand for, I can't stand. Everything you stand for, I can't stand.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Your race essentialism, your war on civil rights, your censorship, your faux virtue signaling. Look how virtuous I am. I pissed my pants while a lawyer was speaking to a judge in front of the school. Look at me. I'm so special, ma. You're a loser. You're a zero. You're a total life loser. You're a scrub. Remember
Starting point is 01:03:47 that song, I don't want no scrubs, but I don't want no scrub. That's you. They're talking about you. You're a scrub. I'm sorry. I'm just a little annoyed today. Here's the audio and you can watch the video on my Rumble account. Here's Judge Kyle Duncan getting heckled by a bunch of diaper-wearing liberal losers at Stanford Law. And I want you to listen. This is Tyrion Steinbeck, the DEI dean, the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion dean, lecturing the judge about safe spaces. This is hilarious. Check this out. And it impacts directly their people, humans, their families, and their communities.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And I'm uncomfortable, and their communities. And I'm uncomfortable, and it's uncomfortable to say this to you as a person. It's uncomfortable to say that for many people here, your work has caused harm. Has caused harm. And I know that must be uncomfortable to hear. I know that must be. Let me please finish. And I want to give you space to finish your remarks too, Judge Duncan.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I'm also uncomfortable because many of the people in the room here I've come to care for, and in my role at this university, my job is to create a space of belonging for all people in this institution. And that is hard and messy and not easy, and the answers are not black or white or right or wrong. This is actually part of the creation of belonging. And it doesn't feel comfortable and it doesn't always feel safe, but there are always places of safety and there is always an intention from this administration
Starting point is 01:05:21 to make sure you all can be in a place where you feel fully you can be here learn growing to the amazing advocates and lawyers and leaders that you're going to be these kids are going to grow up to be pathetic losers and they are going to be assistant united states attorneys and attorneys general and prosecutors and i guarantee you these life losers will be the first ones to take your ass and put it in jail because they found out on a social media post in a civil case that you had a MAGA hat on. And let me add to the lecture here, too. Tyrion Steinbeck, turn to someone in that area.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Was it in Palo Alto out there? Wherever Stanford is. Can someone turn this up? Because we're on these radio stations out there. And play this for Tyrion. I got a little lecture for Tyrion who decided to lecture the judge about safe spaces. You ready? Here we go.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Three, two, one. There are no freaking safe spaces. The world is a really, really hard place. Let me tell you a quick story. When I was a young agent, right? I didn't know what the hell I was doing. You get out of training. I've never protected the president before.
Starting point is 01:06:22 They tell me Bill Clinton, when he was president, he was done getting his in the oval office. That was almost, he was coming to an end of the presidency. And as a site, as a site up in SUNY Albany, they're like Bongino, new guy, yeah, whatever boss. Hey, you need to drive up to SUNY Albany. Where's that? Figure it out. Go to MapQuest. I think that's what we used at the time.
Starting point is 01:06:41 There were no GPS, right? Remember MapQuest, Jim? You print it out the right turn right right so i went up to suny albany to do a uh security for bill clinton and because i didn't know anything they said go sit up in the bleachers he was giving a speech in the gym you know the bleachers they roll them out from the wall you've been at your kids game right the most uncomfortable seats possible i'm standing there well bill clinton of course because he always liked touching people at least he didn't sniff them like Biden. There's no sniffing, but he did a lot of touching, sometimes more. He loved to come up there and shake hands. So he decides he's
Starting point is 01:07:13 going to start walking up these bleachers, which are quite high. And I'm there. And let me tell you something. The boss of the Times, a guy's name was Al. This guy was the deputy special agent in charge of that detail. He almost threw my ass off the bleachers because I moved in the wrong direction and got in the president's way. I probably would have died. I probably would have been paralyzed. You think I would have gotten an apology from? Nah, Al didn't give a not one bit. He said, listen, youngster, get your ass out of the way. You're in the way of the president. Move. I had bosses screaming me in a 27,000 degree octave, if that's even a thing, in front of a bunch of cops when we got lost doing a side advance for Hillary Clinton driving to a wedding
Starting point is 01:07:59 one time. I had a guy verbally completely undress me. I mean, like, it couldn't have been any uglier in front of probably 10 or 15 cops. The world ain't safe, dipwads. The world is not a safe place, and there's no safe space. You know what you got to do? You got to treat the world like an unsafe space. Everywhere you go is unsafe. And when you act like everywhere you go is unsafe, you prepare yourself for the insecurity of it.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You know what reduces the anxiety of the unsafe environment you're going to walk out in called the world preparedness. Train your body. Train your mind. Be smart so you can outsmart the next guy. Every boardroom you're ever going to go in in a real business for the rest of your life is unsafe. There is a vulture on the other side of that boardroom you ever going to go in in a real business for the rest of your life is unsafe. There is a vulture on the other side of that boardroom getting ready to take every freaking thing you worked for in your entire life.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I've been involved in many of these meetings. I know you haven't, Dan. Yeah, a-hole. I brought a $3 billion company to market in Rumble after a massive failure at Parler when three trillion dollar companies colluded to wipe us off the market I promise you you may love me or you may hate me but I've been there there is someone on another side of a table either a lawyer or a business guy every place you're gonna go that is totally unsafe that is looking to take every single thing you earned in your
Starting point is 01:09:24 life everything everything and they're not gonna cry for you or your mama or unsafe that is looking to take every single thing you earned in your life. Everything. Everything. And they're not going to cry for you or your mama or your cousin Tony or your weed smoking professor Samuel for one damn second. They are going to take everything. They will take your wallet when you leave the room if you ain't looking. And they will make sure you leave broke because it's a zero-sum game, the business world. And if that sounds like a world you don't want to live in, then I'm really sorry no one's given you this speech before. Because that Tieran Steinbeck lady is full of diarrhea.
Starting point is 01:09:57 She is, whatever she said is crap. Jim, can we curse? Did you get the word back from the SEC? No? It's still a no. We need the uncensored show today. These kids are being lied to. They are being BS'd.
Starting point is 01:10:13 There is no safe space out there. Nowhere. Not in the business world. Nowhere. Not in the sports world. You had a guy yesterday, Jim and I were just talking about, a pitcher for the Mets, The sports world. You had a guy yesterday, Jim and I were just talking about it, a pitcher for the Mets who wanted to go play for Puerto Rico
Starting point is 01:10:28 in the World Baseball Classic. The guy blew out his knee celebrating a win. You know what? The world ain't fair. And you know why? Even when he won, the mound wasn't safe. So he jumped and he blew out. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It's a true story. And he blew out his knee because the freaking world ain't safe. It's not safe. It's a true story. And he blew out his knee because the freaking world ain't safe. It's not safe. There's danger everywhere, even on a pitching mound after you just won a baseball game. To these wuss, woke, life loser a-holes. They're stopped telling these kids that there's a safe space. That lecture classroom where that judge was is supposed to be an unsafe space you are supposed to be challenged you're supposed to be smart iron sharpens iron
Starting point is 01:11:13 you're supposed to be in there dealing with ideas you may consider dangerous you consider them dangerous if they're so dangerous then figure out a freaking way around them using logic and reason you dip wads this professor is ruining your lives or this dean whatever she is tyran steinbeck is ruining your lives by lying to you to anyone in this audience under the age of 80 because most people by that point have figured it out. You need to sit down with your elders, people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s who got their asses kicked, who had a pitch hit them in the ribs when they were playing in a baseball game and it was unfair. They broke their ribs and missed the season. You need to sit across the table from a guy who busted his ass his entire life and built a plumbing business and had a couple of legals come in and start their own and
Starting point is 01:12:05 put the guy out of business. That's not safe. There's nothing safe about this world. But there's a glorious other side to that too. The world being unsafe gives you the opportunity, gives you the opportunity to put an armor around yourself. And it gives you the opportunity to fail repeatedly and dust off. We got buried at Parler. To live through that was the worst experience of my life. You know what I did? I came back.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I came back and I aligned myself with Rumble. And we took that same battle plan for free speech. We didn't cry about it. We didn't whine about it. Ladies and gentlemen, they stole hundreds of millions of dollars from me. No, that's not a typo. I could have sat down and bitched and moaned and whined all day about it. Oh, it's over.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's over. It's supposed to be safe. It ain't safe. There's nothing safe. And I took my ass and I got it up off the mat and I stopped feeling bad for myself. And I went back and I started something bigger and better. I studied for a year to get into medical school, an entire year of my life while being, while a secret service agent, full-time and then some.
Starting point is 01:13:23 while a Secret Service agent, full-time and then some. Reading organic chemistry textbooks. Took the MCAT. Did pretty good. Not great, but good enough to get in. And you know what happened? Nothing happened. They told me, go pound sand, loser.
Starting point is 01:13:37 You're not smart enough. And I wasn't. And I felt bad for myself for a good two weeks. Oh, I worked so hard. It's safe. It's a safe space. It's safe. But I should have got in.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Why? Why? And I got up one morning and said, shut the up. And figure out something different. So I went and took the GMATs. And I got into business school at Penn State. And I graduated at the top of the class. And I learned a lot.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You know what I got out of medical school? Nothing. Because it ain't safe. Because I never got in. Oh, you got smarter after a year. No, I don't even remember most of the stuff I told myself. No, I got smarter after a year. No, I don't even remember most of the stuff I told myself. No, I got nothing out of it except a valuable life lesson in failure. The world ain't safe.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You are cursing these kids. You're not helping them. You're cursing these kids. Go sit down, anyone I'm telling you, under the age of 40. Go sit down with people older than you and ask them about their life failures. Ask them about how they failed in life and how they overcame it. You'll learn more from people's failures
Starting point is 01:14:56 than you'll learn from your own successes, guaranteed. Folks, if we don't correct this stuff, I'm telling you, man, we're walking this country off a cliff. We are creating a generation of life losers. And I mean it, however harsh that is to hear. We are creating a generation of people guaranteed to lose at life. As you were telling them something categorically false, that this place is safe and there is nothing safe about it.
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