The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 05/15/22

Episode Date: May 15, 2022

First up we talked with Dinesh D’Souza about his critically important new movie 2000 Mules on the eve of it’s release. Next we talked with with Catherine Engelbrecht from True The Vote, the organization responsible for uncovering this evidence of fraud in the 2020 election. Finally we talked with Kari Lake, GOP gubernatorial candidate in Arizona,who has some very blunt comments about what happened in 2020 and how our elections can look going forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We chatted with him. Don't miss this interview. Check this out. election front on the eve of its release we chatted with him don't miss this interview check this out okay i want to get right to this interview because i was at uh mar-a-lago the other night for uh uh the premiere of the movie 2000 mules which i have seen 2000 mules by dinesh de souza i want to welcome dinesh back to the show uh dinesh thanks for taking the time with us we appreciate it hey dan delighted to be on with you now one of the things i want to note dinesh is you were not a guy after the election as you've

noted many times who immediately commented on the status of the election whether there was fraud you were waiting for some evidence to see some evidence um i saw the film 2000 mules and the people who saw the film at mar-a-lago uh were stunned i mean jaws dropping people at the end who even might have been skeptical about a lot of these claims especially you know kraken claims and other stuff walked out of there and uh i noticed even the fact checkers have said nothing but uh it's flawed which is a way of saying we don't agree with the conclusion, although you're probably right. Dinesh, outline the film, what you found, because it really should change every American's opinion on what happened in 2020. Well, until now, we have mainly heard in the connection with election fraud,

we've heard about anomalies and we've heard about episodic fraud. But I think it's fair to say that no one has demonstrated coordinated, systematic fraud in the key states that decided the election. This is really where this election intelligence group called True the Vote comes in. I partnered with them. And what they did was they bought this cell phone geo-tracking data. It's data that monitors the movements of cell phones. And they bought the data for October 1, the early voting through the election. And they set a high bar. They said, we're looking for mules.

A mule is basically a paid ballot trafficker, somebody who's paid normally by a left wing organization to deliver fraudulent votes into a mail-in dropbox. We're looking for mules, but we're going to set the bar at 10 dropboxes or more. This way, we won't catch all of them, but we'll catch the worst offenders because there's no innocent explanation for any cell phone to be at 10 different dropboxes, let alone in the middle of the night. And so this is where the movie's title comes from because running a search algorithm through this data, this 10 trillion pings of data, we've identified more than 2,000 mules who were delivering these fraudulent votes in Arizona,

in Georgia, in Wisconsin, in Michigan, and in Pennsylvania. And the fraud is of such a magnitude that it's quite enough to flip the election from Biden to Trump. This is stunning. Folks, I can't say enough about this movie. It's Dinesh's without my movie. I'm not in the movie.

I'm telling you, I've seen it. Really, it is like clockwork orange, eyes open. It is going to blow your mind. 2,000 mules. Dinesh, couple of questions. I've been following the left-wing media's response, which has been interesting. They don't know what to do. I think there's a fear going on here

that if they cover the movie, people will actually see the evidence and be stunned. So what they do is they have to preface it by putting all kinds of subtext in there, promoting conspiracy theories. What you're promoting is not a theory. It's not theoretical. You have the actual evidence of the mules using GPS tracking. And one of their responses I've noticed has been, well, the analysis is flawed because it uses GPS data, which I find odd, Dinesh, because we use GPS data in combat to target people for death, too.

Maybe we should tell the military this stuff isn't precise, because this is a real national security threat. Am I missing something? Well, they're talking about the accuracy of geo-tracking like circa 2008, because we all remember the old GPS, which was not all that accurate. But GPS has become much more accurate. And cell phone tracking is accurate between 12 and 18 inches. Cell phone tracking can easily tell the difference between someone stopping at a drop by mailbox

or walking past a mailbox. And so when you have people like PolitiFact and AP, they're talking about maybe this was cab drivers driving by the mailbox. Maybe this was election workers. I mean, election workers in hoodies at the three fifty seven a.m. in the morning coming with a backpack and dumping ballots. You can see them doing it on the video, wearing gloves so as not to leave fingerprints on the ballots and taking photos of the ballots going in the box so they can get paid? I mean, how do you explain all that? Dinesh, I think you just nailed it. The video, folks, when you see the film, you're going to 2,000 mules, 2,000 mules. Mark, hold time in your weekend for this. When you see that he has film footage, film footage of these mules doing this. Now, Dinesh, again, forgive'm just, forgive me, I'm just playing devil's eye.

We do have some liberal listeners who are looking for any reason to believe that this stuff is, you know, all heresy and nonsense. Is there any reason you can possibly think of for someone to approach a ballot box and deposit a bunch of items at three o'clock in the morning? Again, is there any possible reason that would occur? No. And see, True the Vote anticipated these kinds of objections because, look, let's say that they had run a search algorithm for someone who went to two drop boxes. Now, there's no reason to go to two. You can only if you're taking even even if you're taking three of your family members ballots, you can drop them in a single box. You don't need to go to another one. But some guy is going to come forward and say, well, you know, I dropped my ballot up at a drop box.

I was walking by the second drop box. I just had to tie my shoelace. So I stopped there for five minutes. So to eliminate all this nonsense, through the vote said, let's set the bar at 10 drop boxers because there is no innocent reason to go to 10 or more. And you have meals going to 20, 30, 40. In Philadelphia, the average was like 50 drop boxes per mule. So, no, there is no innocent explanation.

And moreover, this can't be spontaneous. This has to be organized. Remember, the mules don't come up with their own ballots. They collect their ballots from far left organizations that are deeply embedded in cities like Atlanta and Detroit and Milwaukee. So it's these left wing nonprofits that are conjuring up the fake ballots and then hiring the mules to do this illicit operation, generally between 1 and 4 a.m. in the morning. Now, Dinesh, another question asked often by, you know, liberal moon bats is, well, you know, maybe they were just carrying the ballot for for grandma. I mean, I know I know it sounds ridiculous, but how do you respond to those types of claims? It was just it's just their mom's ballot they were delivering.

Well, first of all, we're talking about we're talking about a total of four hundred thousand ballots that are trafficked by just our 2,000 mules. And by the way, I do want to make a key distinction between boat harvesting, which is permitted to a very limited degree. In Georgia, for example, you can give your ballot to a family member. And if you're confined in the facility, you can give it to a caregiver. And that's it. You can't give it to anyone else. California's laws are more liberal. You can actually give your ballot to anyone. But even in California, you can't pay them to drop off your ballot. And so when you have this

mule operation, and you can see, I mean, this is where the video is critical. If it was just a cell phone data, you would know nothing about the identity of the mules. The truth of it is, we know a lot about the mules. We have their cell phone IDs. We know that a lot of them are Antifa and BLM types. Now, how do we know this? This was kind of a genius move by True the Vote. There is an international organization called ACLED that monitors the cell phones of all violent rioters around the world.

And there were riots in Atlanta in the aftermath of the George Floyd business. And so what True the Vote did is they took the cell phone data on the mules and matched it against the accolade data on the rioters. And guess what? There's a pretty big overlap. A whole bunch of mules show up in the violent riots. So you can tell the ideology of the mules. You can tell where the Democrats and the leftists are hiring them. No, this is not this is not people dropping off the ballots of family members. This is a paid illegal operation being run by the left and by the Democrats. Folks, we're talking to Dinesh D'Souza about his new film, 2000 Mules. Again, can't emphasize this enough. This is his eye opening a movie about corruption in our election process, about anything involving corruption in government, as you will ever see.

Dinesh, did the leftists who perpetrated these illicit acts, did they just think they weren't going to get caught? I mean, they're clearly not dumb. I mean, this was an organized effort to do this but they had to know that there were cameras uh running at these ballot box locations uh i mean again i've seen the movie uh it's not even you know some of them appear to be acting a little furtively but some of them just don't care at all they walk up dump the ballots and walk away did they not know or just not care that there were cameras there? What what's your hypothesis on that? You know, my my thought

on that, Dan, is that the Democrats have been doing this on a smaller scale since the middle of the 19th century. I mean, think back to Tammany Hall. The Democrats are the party of voter fraud. They've specialized in it. You'd have immigrants coming off the boat, looking around, not knowing where they were. Here's a couple of Democrats with ballots. Hey, listen, sign here. We'll fill it out. Here's a couple of dollars to go get a bottle of liquor or go see my friend Joe.

He'll give you a job at the dock. So they've been doing this for a long time. What happened in 2020 was the rules changed. Suddenly, absentee ballots and mail-in ballots, which were previously a relatively small part of the election, now become the norm. Suddenly, these mail-in ballot boxes start mushrooming all over the place, paid for, by the way, by Mark Zuckerberg and others. And so the fraudsters go, you know what? This is our moment of opportunity. We can take the fraud

and ramp it up 50-fold or 100- fold. And that's exactly what they did. We're talking to Dinesh D'Souza about his new film, 2000 Mules, the website, 2000mules.com, 2000, the number, 2000mules.com. Folks, melt those servers right now. Melt them down. I will, by the way, Dinesh, when you get out, just so you know, I will be doing a thorough promotion, including the trailer about where they can find this. So have no fear. I will make sure everybody knows. My last question for you, been generous with your time. So, Dinesh, I'm getting the question a lot from a lot of folks who watch the trailers.

Some saw the film. They're saying, OK, Dan, well, what do we do about it? Now, I get it. You're not running for office. You're exposing a problem. But I think the answers here are really quite simple we're going to have to even with fraud existing somehow overcome it and win an election it's not going to be easy in a lot of swing places but i'm not forfeiting anything right and we're going to have

to get rid of this we're going to have to go back to an election day with some semblance of normalcy these ballot boxes are clearly uncontrollable the The idea of mass mail-in balloting is absurd. We understand our military and people who are infirm, but this is just ridiculous, and it's obviously, based on your film, just openly inviting fraud on a mass scale. I agree, but I would go even further, because many people have said to me,

Dinesh, you made this movie as a truth-telling truth telling enterprise and we got to make sure it doesn't happen again. And that was kind of my view going into this. But I've come more and more to start thinking about, you know, if this happened at the scale that we're talking about, I mean, it's unprecedented in American history. And you have to go back to 1960, maybe JFK beat Kennedy because of some votes in Cook County, Illinois, but that's one place. The idea that you've had this systematic fraud that is of such a large volume that it far exceeds the difference between Trump and Biden in these five key states. I mean, then we're in constitutionally uncharted territory. In other words, the Constitution says that the electors meet, both houses of Congress ratify, the president is inaugurated.

But the Constitution doesn't even contemplate what happens if it comes out later, that the guy sitting in the White House is kind of a usurper and got there because of fraud. I mean, should he be allowed to have the results of the fraud? If so, why did they take away Lance Armstrong's medal? Why didn't they just say, let's just fix the Tour de France next time so nobody can cheat? So I think the issues here are huge. And I like people to sort of digest them before we plot out the way ahead. It's not simply a matter of let's move on. In some ways, we have to face what happened in 2020 so that we can move on. Yeah, it's a good point, Dinesh, but I think you said the key terms here. I think where we get into this kind of Stephen King-like mist is it's constitutionally uncharted territory. Believe me, I agree with you 1,000%.

I can't possibly agree with you more. But I think that the founders didn't think of this is really disturbing because you're right. What is the answer? And all of them are complicated. You're not incorrect at all, but interesting. And you know what? We have a, we take questions from the audience later. I'll, you call in folks, 844-484-3872.

I'd like to hear what you think. Dinesh D'Souza, I'm going to promote the film and play the trailer, give out the website. I'm going to make sure everybody sees this. Folks, it's called 2000 Mules. The website, 2000, the number 2000mules.com. See it. Tell your friends about it. Tell mom, tell dad, tell the dog, the cat, the neighbor, the babysitter, everyone. It'll change everything about 2020. Dinesh, thanks for doing the movie and thanks for your time. We appreciate it. Thank you very much.

You got it, folks. You got to see this movie, man. I'm telling you. Talk about being in constitutionally uncharted territory. It will change everything you think about the 2020 election. It is really that powerful. That was Dinesh D'Souza with some just eye-opening information, ear-opening information, too, about the 2020 election.

I've got another great one coming for you about the 2020 election malfeasance. Katherine Engelbrecht, if you don't know who she is, you need to. She runs the group True the Vote. She's been focusing on election fraud for a long time. It was her research with Greg Phillips that led to the movie 2,000 Mules. But first, let me get to our next sponsor all homeowners rising inflation and insurance rates are concerning did you know one of the easiest ways to save money is by re-shopping your home and auto insurance policy genius customers saved an average of 1250 per year over what they were paying for home and auto

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shown in 2000 Mules, the devastating evidence. Please listen to this really important interview. So I'm eagerly anticipating this interview. You've heard a ton about this movie, 2000 Mules, Dinesh D'Souza's movie, but you haven't heard a

lot. You need to hear more about the people behind the research in the movie because the movie wouldn't have been possible without them and Dinesh has done a lot to recognize him but you need to know this specific guest right here she's been fighting for free and fair elections for a very long time I've known her I've known her a long time she runs the group True the Vote Catherine Engelbrecht welcome to the dan bongino show it's good to have you thank you so much for having me dan so you have been doing this for a very long time we've got some history together following elections trying to make sure they are

free they are fair that it is easy to vote and hard to cheat and i applaud you for that and the information you have in this movie 2000 2000 Mules, is just devastating. Now, one of the attacks on the film, which I've been addressing by ridiculous people on the left who are propagandists and are trying to stop the truth from getting out, has been that these cell phones

where you track these mules from these NGOs and all these other left-wing outlets to ballot boxes, that it's just not accurate. That's kind of weird, Catherine, because the military and law enforcement uses it. So how do you respond to those kind of attacks? Well, I mean, you said it. It's just inaccurate. The military uses it.

Law enforcement uses it. It is accurate to within inches. Of course, there's, you know, they're going to be able to find the left and all the detractors will be able to find any expert they want to say whatever they want. I mean, but as a practical matter, this kind of data is used on a daily basis by law enforcement. And it is as accurate as has been noted as digital DNA. I mean, it is totally tied. I mean, Catherine, the military uses it to literally kill people, to target people for death.

Like, that's how precise it is. You know, the Supreme Court is the Nash noted. Chief Justice Roberts has called it the equivalent of an ankle monitor, correct? That's right. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Carpenter V.U.S. made it very, very clear that the power of this data is so exacting as to as to be a carbon match. I mean, it is it's it's exact. I mean, there's I don't know what else to say. a carbon match. I mean, it is, it's, it's exact. I mean, there's, I don't know what else to say. They're just there. Those, those quotes are simply not accurate.

It's kind of funny too, because the same fact checkers and liberal media that, not to get off on a spy gate thing, but you know, some guy in a bar said there was a PP tape in Russia one time for Trump. They ran with it despite zero evidence. Yet you have exact data, the equivalent of an ankle monitor and less like now we need more. We need more. But I don't want to get into it because that's just a waste of your valuable time. I was looking at Catherine Engelbrecht from True the Vote, heavily involved in 2000 mules. Another thing, a Pennsylvania, I believe

a Pennsylvania state senator, some of the fact checkers have said, well, he said he drove by a drop box, you know, a couple of times. So he could have been picked up and this could be false. And it was just people randomly walking by ballot boxes, not necessarily mules. How do you answer that nonsense? So we held an incredibly high standard to the number of devices that we actually focused in on. In order to have made the cut, if you will, for our standard of research, you had to, and it was different state by state, but broadly speaking, you had to go to a minimum of 10 drop boxes and a minimum of typically, I think the average is five, nonprofit organizations within a very narrow early election window.

And so we set this bar very high to make sure that we pings and the patterns, as you rightly described, the exactitude with second or two or however many, and then goes back to another destination and then goes on to another drop box. That's a very different pattern than somebody whizzing by on the freeway. And we were very exacting in our QC efforts. efforts. So, so given that this geo tracking is, as John Roberts said, as precise as an ankle monitor, the only way you would get a false positive by a drive by at a ballot box is if you ran over the ballot box and stayed there for a couple of, correct. If you did that, you, but just, but even then, but I know we're just, but I, this is how stupid the fact checkers are, but, but Catherine, just to be clear, even then they wouldn't have been included in your study because they would have had to driven their car into an NGO too.

Right. They'd have to run over at least 10 drop boxes, stay there for a period of time and frequent nonprofit organizations. Right. With their cars. Yeah. With the car inside the NGO. I just want to be clear. It's not good enough to drive by the NGO. It's an ankle monitor, folks. You have to drive it into the NGO, which we do not recommend. Nobody's recommending you do that. But folks, if this sounds absurd, it's not just that. It's not just that you had to go to an NGO first, one of these ballot harvesting organizations. It's not just that you had to go to the NGO to the ballot box. Also, even if you did that once, if I'm correct in your analysis, you were still not included in the 2000 mule study in the movie. Am I right?

in the 2000 mule study in the movie. Am I right? That's exactly right. Look, there's so many ways to chop this up. If you went to nonprofit organizations and then to USPS mailboxes, you weren't in the study. We were very narrow in looking at what are the weakest links in the current process

as it was laid into place in 2020. We recognize that these privately funded drop boxes, highly unregulated, were a weak point. And that is why we chose to organize the study in the way that we did. It is the tip of the iceberg. And what is, you know, what is so confounding is thinking about January 6th, when the same type data was used to, within days, move to grand jury indictment. Within days. And we have been working and attempting to move this information forward since the spring of 2021 with nobody really wanting to get involved because it's a part of a discussion that most of our elected are too cowardly to have.

And that is why our election system and our elections wholly are in the shape that they're in. These are very difficult conversations, but our process is eroding from under us, and we must get serious about correcting it. And it has to happen fast. So we're talking to Catherine Engelbrecht, True the Vote. She's with an organization, True the Vote, and you really should check them out. They are worth your time. Catherine, by being very careful and circumspect and eliminating

people who drove by drop boxes, people who voted once at drop boxes um and by creating really stringent criteria you had to visit multiple ngos multiple drop boxes by doing that am i reading this right that you may actually have understated intentionally i get what you're doing because you were very you knew you were going to be attacked. But if I'm correct, you may have actually dramatically understated the degree of fraud in the 2020 election. Oh, without question we did. Without question. Yeah.

Now, give us the numbers, because I've watched the movie. You go through it methodically, state by state, the differences. But how do you, you know, when people say, oh, well, you know, how do we know that the people dropping these ballots off from these left wing NGOs, how do we know they, I don't laugh when I say, but I'm really, there are morons on the left, so I have to be careful who I'm talking to. They're not everybody's conservative. They'll say, oh, they could have all been votes for Donald Trump.

And so how do you, how do you answer that? Well, I mean, at some point, we have to inject a, you know, a dose of common sense here. Left wing organizations, as a general rule, aren't pro Trump. It would stand to reason that if ballots were being collected, and then moved to drop boxes, and we the other things that the other elements that we know to be true from from other cases from observation um we know that they are running low numbers you can see that on the videos that it's usually between three and ten ballots so you have to put all of these pieces together to try to get the full picture of what was happening.

But at the end of the day, ballots are private. No, I get it. And the common sense approach, though, the only reason I bring it up is because it's, I'm going to use your own analogy. It's kind of weird how you were opened up, not you specifically, you and the listening audience, if you attended the January 6th rally and did nothing wrong, it's kind of weird how geo-tracking was used to make you out to be an insurrectionist, right? Although, Catherine, they have literally no idea what your political ideology was unless you told them. And yet, when a left-winger, right, when a left-winger goes to a left-wing organization

Right. When a left winger goes to a left wing organization to go drop off ballots and some of those same left wingers were at Antifa type tar pit of minutia and arguing these points that clearly have basis and accuracy and common sense supporting them. We need to move on to solutions. We don't need to waste time arguing the irrelevant. It is what it is. We need to move on to get to solutions. Yeah, that's my next question. We're talking to Catherine Engelbrecht from True to Vote. It'd be my last one.

I appreciate your time. We're going to rerun this on my podcast as well, Jim, for the weekend interview. So mark this one down. That's a definite, because everybody needs to hear what you're doing. This is not your first time doing this. You've been doing this a long, long time. But Catherine, you know, after you know, after this ballot box fiasco in 2020 video geo tracking evidence, it's fairly obvious it's almost impossible to maintain election integrity with them.

Is this going to happen again? Are we going to be dealing with this same thing in 2022? And what's to stop us from organizing nationwide and just it's public space and just sitting there with cameras ourself and setting them up at ballot boxes? Say, did we see you here before? What's to stop us from doing that? I mean, if we're not intimidating people or violating any law, I'm not suggesting anybody do that. But is there a law against us doing that? No. And look, this is the question of the hour, in my opinion. This is where we are. How deeply do we value the sanctity of our vote and the integrity of our elections? Because as we have demonstrated, it is slipping away quickly. And government is not keen on correcting itself. Yes, we do have some states that have

limited or removed these privately funded drop boxes, and that's a great thing. But there are many other weep holes through which we lose the accuracy in the process, and citizens must engage in every possible way, in every possible way, because the, the, the, the push to the subversion of process is, um, is what's happening on the other side. So, so as an action item, because, you know, you and I are oriented around the do, the do matters. The talk is cheap. I mean, you do stuff, your group true. The vote has always done stuff. Uh, you'd probably say, I would imagine you'd agree. It's a good idea to call your legislators at the state local and federal level um and to ask them all what they're doing about this ballot box problem that would probably be a good idea right

and insist on getting something done absolutely i mean ballot drop boxes or those privately funded ballot drop boxes need to be removed if If they cannot be removed for whatever reason, then they need to have surveillance cameras on them. The cameras need to work and they need to be reviewed or better yet, live streamed, make it transparent. Catherine, what's your group? What's the website for your group, by the way, so people can go check out your work, the True the Vote group. What's the website? Thank you. Yeah. Check out truethevote.org. Truethevote.org. And there are many things you can do. Just hit the website and you'll see. Truethevote.org. Folks, write it down, bookmark it, social media, spread it around, put it on your Facebook, Twitter, Truth, Parler, Getter, Gab, whatever you got.

Truethevote.org. It's important. They're doing invaluable work. Thank you, Catherine, for your time and for your efforts. We really appreciate this. Thank you. That was Catherine Engelbrecht with some frightening information about what happened in the 2020 election. Up next, we talk with Arizona gubernatorial candidate Carrie Lake. She's terrific.

She is a go-getter. She's been focusing on Arizona, what happened in Arizona. She addresses that here, too,. She's terrific. She is a go-getter. She's been focusing on Arizona, what happened in Arizona. She addresses that here too about the 2020 election. But first, let's get to our next sponsor. Growth is essential for every entrepreneur. At BDC, we get that. And the businesses we support grow at double the average rate, accelerating the pace. We're on it. BDC, financing,ising. Know-how. Here's Carrie Lake who has some very blunt comments about what happened in 2020 and how our elections can be, you know, easy to vote and hard to cheat going forward.

All right, you know, we like to have, we have a rule against squishes on the show, so we like to have candidates on who are non-squishes, who are good, who are MAGA-type candidates, America First candidates who really care about the country. And I've been looking around and I was at the Mar-a-Lago premiere for 2000 Mules, an amazing movie. Can't recommend it highly enough. And I ran into Carrie Lake and I just, I said, Carrie, gotta have you on the show. And she's here. Carrie Lake, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. What an honor to have you. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be on, Dan.

I've been looking forward to this and just excited. It was great to meet you. It was great to meet you too and I'm not exaggerating. I was talking to someone and in mid-sentence, I didn't mean to be rude to the person. It was actually, it was interesting.

I was actually doing kind of like a business thing, talking to someone and I'm like, oh, there's Carrie Lake. And I interrupted myself. I said, Carrie, I've got to get you on the show. You're running for governor in Arizona. The website folks is CarrieLake.com. That's Carrie with a K.

I want you to check out our campaign, please. You're in a really important state, a state that was once a reliably red state that rather tragically has kind of turned a shade of purple and some would argue almost blue. I mean, there are two Democratic senators. You're running for governor, of course, but it is a critical state that could determine a presidential election in the very near future. What's going on in Arizona? Did we just lose touch the Republican Party over there?

No, I disagree with you. We are a red state. I mean, we had a very corrupt election. I mean, we both saw 2,000 mules, and we saw just one way that we cheated. Arizona is a red state. It's Trump country. I don't believe for one second we're blue. A lot of the people moving in from California are political refugees escaping that zombie apocalypse known as California. And so they're coming here for the freedom that we have. I think that Trump won this election and we are seeing through our forensic audit, we're seeing through 2000 mules, how they traffic ballots, that this election was

just dirty and rotten to the core. So it's easy to say, wow, we've turned purple and blue when we just had a nightmare election that was not honest. And that's why one of my main issues is restoring faith in our elections and making sure that we get rid of all those loopholes where they can cheat because it was kind of death by a thousand paper cuts how they cheated to steal this election. We're talking to Carrie Lake. Her website is CarrieLake.com.

Listen, she's running for governor of Arizona. But, folks, I can't emphasize this enough. If you've got a few bucks please send it her way i mean listen money sadly i wish it weren't but it's the blood of politics i wish it weren't but it is that's just the hard reality we live in and it's candidates like kerry uh yes i'm sorry go ahead well and arizona is i think the most important the arizona governor's race is the most important election in 2022 for the entire country. And here's why. We only have two border states left in Republican governors' hands. And even, you know, I don't think they're doing enough to secure our border.

But if we lose a border state to a socialist Democrat, like the one I'll be running against in November, Katie Hobbs. She's just like Gavin Newsom. I think we lose our country. We can't afford to have this border crisis continuing. Right now, we have a Republican governor. He's kind of piecemealing his attack and trying to secure the border, not doing much. We need a serious border plan. I have it, and I'm going to implement it on day one, starting with declaring an invasion on our border and then getting our National Guard, our Arizona National Guard, armed into the border to stop people from coming over, finishing Trump's wall. And we're going to blow up these drug tunnels and shoot down the cartel drones. I can't believe we've been allowing this to go on as long as we have. And we have the right to do this, by the way, Dan, in the Constitution. You know, it's so refreshing to hear candidates

talk like this, Carrie. This is, my producer, Jim, is nodding his head in approval, too, because we, you know, we try to keep squishes off the show, but, you know, once in a blue moon, someone we think is, you know, MAGA, America first, and really cares about the country, we'll have them on, and they're not bad people bad people but they disappoint they give a lot of focus group

tested talking point I ran for office I know I get it a consultant told you to say that you know you just don't talk like that I mean you're clear you're concise you're like no I'm in charge I'm running for governor it's a freaking border state the borders to the United States and I'm shutting it down come into the country the right way or don't come in at all and it's like it's just so refreshing to hear people talk like that carry lake.com with a k everyone go there today send a buck 10 bucks five bucks this is really important carrie i got i got limited time so i want to get to a couple different issues too because arizona is a critical state. These food shortages and the inflation.

Again, I know you're not running for a federal office, but you're going to have a big voice in this swing state. I mean, we've got to stop spending money we don't have. We're printing more money to chase fewer goods. This is an obvious problem. And now we're looking at a baby food crisis, too. I mean, this is like an apocalypse caused by swampy Republicans and awful big spending Democrats. Yes. And again, I, you know, a stolen election has consequences. We've got this illegitimate president sitting in the white house, trying to drive this country into

the ground and we need strong governors who will save their states. I can't save the whole United States, but I'm going to try my hardest to save Arizona. We're not letting Joe take it down with him. And he's got to stop printing money. And our lawmakers back in D.C. have to stop approving these multi-trillion dollar bills where they're just printing money and they're going to crash the U.S. dollar. And we're going to I fear that, you know, not too far down the line, we're going to be looking more like Venezuela than the United States of America. Stop printing money, start drilling, or we're going to, I fear that, you know, not too far down the line, we're going to be looking more like Venezuela than the United States of America. Stop printing money, start drilling, or we're going to see inflation that's here to stay. Yeah. I mean, this is Carrie. What's so frustrating is this is not hard. You know, these, a lot of these states have balanced budget

amendments, live within your means, you know, keep your taxes relatively flat to incentivize businesses to open up. I mean, this isn't complicated. Let me move on to just another topic. Quick CRT in schools. This is unquestionably a state issue. It's also a federal issue to some extent because it's happening around the country. Maybe not the federal government as much, but you get the point. Every state has had some ongoing drama with these racists teaching our kids critical racism theory,

because that's what it is. It's teaching kids how to be racist. If you win the governorship of Arizona, what can you do to get this, you know, root and branch ripped out of our schools and get back to reading, writing, and arithmetic, and civics, the stuff that really matters? Well, for starters, I think the fastest way to get our curriculum shaped up is to create competition. And by that, I mean, you know, backpack funding. You fund the student, not the institution, not the school.

And the fastest way to make a change in curriculum is to say, hey, you, the parent, gets to decide where your child goes to school. You let the state know the money follows. goes to school, you let the state know the money follows. So if the school down the road is teaching this garbage and telling your kids that America is a racist country and trying to groom them with all of this weird transgenderism and all of that stuff, you just say, look, we're taking our son or our daughter out. We're going to send them to this school. Money follows. Pretty soon that school teaching that woke curriculum will say, you know, we better change course here or we're going to have an enrollment so low we can't even afford to keep our doors open. I think it's the fastest way to get a change in the curriculum. And it's one that the governor can take part in.

Otherwise, we got to look at each individual school district dealing with their own curriculum. That's where the decision is truly made, not at the governor's level. But we can take funding and attach it to the student rather than the school. That's important. I sincerely mean it. It is the civil rights issue of our time. Equality education. There is no excuse. And education, Carrie, is our the conservative. That is our cause. Liberals forfeited away these poor kids a long time ago. cause. Liberals forfeited away these poor kids a long time ago. Democrats love the idea too. I will tell you, you know, Democrat families want to have control of where their kids go. The problem is, if you look at the polling, Democrats like it. The Democrat families like it. The Republican family like it. But guess who doesn't like it? Some of those radical Democrat lawmakers who are

taking money from the teachers union and a whole bunch of other special interest groups. So they vote against their own constituents. They vote against freedom in education that can truly free people from the grips of poverty, from the grips of despair. And we need to make sure our kids are ready for the opportunities we have. It's pretty simple, dad. Common sense, do the right thing. I'm in politics not because I want to be a politician. I don't have political aspirations. I just want to make sure Arizona is on course for greatness. And I looked at the field of who was running and I thought, wow, none of them can get us past the finish line, which means we're going to end up

with a socialist governor. And I'm not willing to allow that to happen in our state. I don't want to have to pack up a U-Haul in search for another free state. We're going to save Arizona. No. And we're going to do it August 2nd in the primary and then November 8th when I win the election. And on day one, we're going to secure that border, stop the drugs from coming across and poisoning our kids, and take back operational control from the cartels who Joe Biden handed it over to. Folks, we're talking to Carrie Lake, her website, Carrie, K-A-R-I Lake, common spelling dot com,

Carrie Lake dot com. Please send a few beans over there, a dollar, five bucks, 10 bucks, whatever you got, because she is going to be the governor for a border state. I am sure of it. It matters. This stuff matters. And if you don't think it matters, see Ron DeSantis, who, by the way, Carrie, got elected on exactly what you just said. A bunch of female black mothers who wanted their kids to get a decent quality education and a life

and who voted in relatively high numbers considering our history of doing poorly in that specific demographic for Ron DeSantis. So you're darn right. This is a Democrat and Republican issue and it's our issue. Let me ask you one. I'm sorry. Go ahead. The mama bears, the mama bears and even the papa bears have awoken even more so since since he won his election. You know, they masked our children for two years, even though they didn't need it. They tortured our kids. And they're doing this ridiculous grooming of our children. When you get between a mom and a parent and a baby cub, we're going to rip you to shreds. And the great thing is our baby cubs, our 18, 19, 20, 25-year-old babies, they are now conservative because they've been tortured the last two and a half years.

They had these great years of their life taken away by being forced to get vaccines and and wear masks during these, you know, what should be free, fun years of their life. So we're going to see an uprising of young conservatives that the world has never that the United States has never seen. I predict. Oh, I the United States has never seen. I, I predict. Oh, I couldn't agree with you more. My, my daughter's going to college, but a lot of her friends were a year ahead of her in high school or in

college, obviously now. And a lot of them came back, many of them were Republican. Now they're like, they're the ultra MAGA gym, ultra MAGA beer. Now they're now like super extra.

They're like, this is the worst. The colleges, they kept us in the dorm room. It was the worst. So you, they kept us in the dorm room. It was the worst. So you are so right. One last question. So I met you at the 2000 Mules premiere,

saw the movie. I got kind of an advanced screener on it. The movie's just devastating. I mean, any sane person watching it comes away with the conclusion that 2020 was a total fiasco. These ballot boxes are just a plague on humankind. You know, again, as the governor,

what else can we do when you win this election, which I hope you do in Arizona as the new governor, CarrieLake.com, what can we do even in Arizona to even further, to make sure that it's easy to vote, but super hard to cheat? What can we do there? I think we go back to what used to be,

you know, they closed our schools down and our churches down. You ever think why they did that? Because that's where we used to vote. And that was precinct voting, small, easy to control voting, voting where you can spot corruption and things like that a little bit

easier. You don't have to wait in long lines. You go in and vote. They closed those down due to COVID and moved into voting centers where there's really easy for corruption, and they brought the boxes out, the ballot boxes, drop boxes, and we saw with 2,000 mules how they had these people being paid to drop off hundreds of thousands of ballots, illegal ballots.

We've got to stop all of that. And we're not going to have COVID this go around. We need to get back to what our legislators have decided our election laws are going to be in each state. They broke a lot of election laws here. And when I'm governor, I'm hoping we have a red wave. I believe we'll have a red wave. I'm about to start endorsing some America first candidates. I need to have America first lawmakers working with me. And we're going to shore up this election, go through our forensic audit, fix every little loophole that they use to cheat and bring back honest

elections. We don't need to have the voting machines counting the dominion and such. I've actually filed a injunction in federal court here as a candidate and a citizen of Arizona. I filed an injunction with the federal courts to ban the use of those electronic counting machines. We basically take 100% of our vote in Arizona. We hand it over to one or two private companies who won't tell us how their machines work, won't give us the passwords, won't show us what goes on in those black boxes, and they expect us to just trust them with our

vote count. I don't think we should do that. We've seen enough. And I've even heard Kamala Harris say, this is what she said. I saw with my own eyes as they hacked one of these electronic voting machines. We need security and transparency so that for every voter, Democrat, independent and Republican, we know when we have our vote cast, it's counted. And we can't guarantee that with those machines. Our vote cast, it's counted. That's right. And we can't guarantee that with those machines. That's right.

So I'm sorry. Carrie Lake. Right now, we'll continue to fight it when I'm governor. We'll get honest elections. CarrieLake.com. CarrieLake.com. Carrie, we will most definitely have you back before the primary and the election. Thanks so much for joining us.

We really appreciate your time. Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. You got it. You got it, folks. Sorry, I got to run we've I wanted to keep her on but I ran way late over that segment but we'll be right back that was Carrie Lake her website is carrielake.com k-r-i-l-a-k-e she's running for governor in Arizona good America

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