The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 05/28/23 - President Donald Trump, Mark Levin, James Lindsay and an epic Dan rant
Episode Date: May 28, 2023First up is President Donald Trump with his first reaction after the release of the Durham report. Next is an epic rant from Dan about how we can't play nice with people who want to do us harm. Then w...e talked with James Lindsay about the dangers of cultural Marxism. Finally we talked with Mark Levin on the two year anniversary of Dan's radio show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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First up today, we talked with President Trump,
who was making his first comments
after the release of the Durham Report.
Don't miss it. Check this out.
All right, I'm always excited to welcome back to the show
a man who hopefully will be the next president of the United States,
a good friend to the show, a good friend to me personally,
President Donald J. Trump.
Mr. President, thanks for joining us.
Hello, Dan.
Mr. President, we got the report yesterday.
Everything you said was correct.
This is one of those hashtag Donald Trump was right again moments.
Sir, you were framed.
You were framed.
They had no evidence of any of this from the start.
Your thoughts on that?
They thought they were going to lose, and we were indeed framed.
And it really pertained more because they missed the dates.
And amazingly, the report wasn't picked up until just after the election.
If you remember, I think it was BuzzFeed, which is now essentially out of business, I understand, which is a very good thing for the country.
But this was done sometime after the campaign.
It actually affected, if you look at it and really study it, it really affected 2020 much
more because we went through years of nonsense with Russia, Russia, Russia.
I didn't even know what they were talking about.
People would come up to me, sir, do you know anything about Russia?
And after a while, I'd say, what's going on with Russia?
It was a frame-up.
And these are bad people.
This is Schiff and Clinton and all.
These are bad people.
But it was much more than them.
Mark Elias.
You take a look at what they did.
And this really affected 2020 more than it affected 2016.
It was meant for 2016, but they couldn't get it off.
affected 2016. It was meant for 2016, but they couldn't get it off. You know, they had this fake dossier written by Steele and who was offered millions in order to try and get it confirmed,
and he couldn't get it confirmed. He couldn't get anybody to confirm it because it was all fake.
It was like you write a fiction book. But this really affected the 2020. Another thing in the
2020 election, which was totally rigged, by the way, incredibly
how they didn't want to talk about that, Dan. They didn't want to talk or rig. But all you have to do
is take a look at the 51 Intelligence Agency. That's rigged. Take a look at Truth to Vote.
These are great patriots, Catherine Engelbrecht. And these are great patriots, went around for
a year, took all of the tapes out. She sold all of these stuffing the ballot
boxes that took hundreds of thousands of votes, stuffing the ballot boxes that took place.
And just you take a look at just Twitter and the FBI, and that's all modern day stuff. That doesn't
even go back that far. But now you find out, they found out much later about Twitter and the FBI,
the 51 intelligence agencies saying it was Russian disinformation.
And everyone knew every single one of them knew it wasn't.
No, this it had a huge impact on the 2020 election.
Yeah. Mr. President, they interfered in multiple elections.
2016, the midterms with the impeachment.
2020 with their interference with Twitter to make the Hunter Biden story disappear. But Mr. President, I think the most stunning line from the Durham thing,
the Durham report that came out yesterday, is that they never possessed, quote,
any actual evidence of collusion and that Obama, Biden, Lynch, and Comey, who you thankfully fired,
they knew in July of 2016, this whole thing was you being framed by Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, this was a coup.
And if I didn't fire Comey, probably you wouldn't have made it.
I wouldn't have made it.
This great administration that did so much wouldn't have made it.
Because Comey, this was a whole coup.
They were ready to go in.
You know, it's interesting.
When I fired Comey, it was like throwing a rock at a hornet's nest.
They went crazy in the FBI.
That's when we found out about the insurance policy.
Remember with Stroke and Page, the insurance policy.
What do you do?
Remember that line?
What do you do?
He's going to win.
He's going, no, no, he'll never win.
It's 100 million to one, right?
That was by Jesse.
He said, but if he does never win. It's 100 million to one, right? That was my chance. He said,
he said, but if he does, we have an insurance policy. This was all the insurance policy.
This is sick. But you know, we found that one. And then we found out a lot of others and the whole thing blew up in their face. But had I not fired Comey and it all blew up because
everyone went wild when I fired, they were all fighting for the job and they didn't care about him at that point.
They just wanted to take care of themselves.
But it all blew up.
If I didn't fire Comey, he would have walked in with Stroke and Page and this one and McCabe.
And they would have said, sir, I'm sorry, but the Russia thing.
I said, what Russia thing?
Can you imagine if you would have been taken out of office for something that you never even heard about? These are bad people. These are sick people.
I remember when I told you the story where they walked out, where Adam Schiff, the crooked guy,
such a crooked guy, little Adam Schiff, he walks out, Shifty Schiff, he walks out to the press.
He wasn't supposed to because he was in a meeting of so-called intelligence, right? But he walks out to the press. He wasn't supposed to because he was in a meeting of so-called intelligence,
right?
But he walks out to the press and he says,
Donald Trump Jr.
will go to jail for life for what he's done here.
And he knew it was a phony thing.
He's saying that a young man has to go to jail for life because of what he
did on Russia,
Russia,
Russia.
And he knew that it was a hoax.
Think of how bad you have to be to say a thing like that.
And he's running for Senate, Mr. President.
He's running for Senate right now, Adam Schiff.
Well, you know what?
I hope maybe I should endorse him.
You know what?
I'll endorse him because that way he might lose in that area.
I don't know.
My endorsement is 99% in the Republican Party.
But maybe what I'll do is I'll say, we got to get Adam Schiff in there. That's a great idea.
Do like an anti-endorsement, like a kryptonite endorsement. I like that. It's a good idea.
I'm going to endorse him.
Mr. President.
Honestly, it's such a horrible thing, what took place.
Just a couple more questions. I know you've got to run. Thank you for calling in. I appreciate it.
couple more questions. I know you've got to run. Thank you for calling in. I appreciate it.
We're hoping you're going to be the next president of the United States. Now that you've experienced the FBI interfering in multiple elections, this is indisputable at this point. Can we get a promise
from you for a house cleaning? The minute we get in office, don't wait. We don't need the first
hundred days, just the first hundred minutes. We need everybody gone who cannot pledge allegiance to the Constitution and pledges
allegiance to the Democrat Party first. Well, after looking at the report and after seeing,
and don't forget, I did a house fire. I fired a lot of people, but the deep state goes deep.
Hey, firing Comey was not, you know, that was, and I fired him very early. You know,
a lot of people said, why did you wait so long? He was fired very, very early.
And it was a great firing.
I'm telling you, they were looking to do real bad.
This was a coup that they were looking at.
These are sick people.
So, yeah, only a fool would not do that.
You have to do it deep.
Not only there, you have to do it in a lot of other locations.
But, you know, this continues.
I don't know if you know, but we have a friend of Weissman, a very good friend of Weissman.
It is Jack Smith and his wife hates Trump and he hates Trump.
And they've campaigned against Trump.
They spend money against Trump.
Their friends hate Trump.
And he's the special counsel.
I call him the special persecutor, not prosecutor, persecutor because persecutor is worse.
call him the special persecutor, not prosecutor, persecutor, because persecutor is worse.
But Jack Smith, and he continues to go after Trump with the phony boxes hoax. And if you take a look at Biden, Biden's got boxes all over the place. He had no right to declassify. I do. And but you
just take a look, Jack Smith. This is a continuation of the same hoax. It's all a big hoax. They're all friends.
They're in there.
They're embedded.
And it's really a question.
It's rhinos and it's Democrats, radical left Democrats.
I love the way you start your show with the radical left.
You fight the radical left.
It's the radical left.
And they've been there for years.
They've been there for years.
And we've done a hell of a job on it.
Boy, they don't want, you know how you know?
Because they don't want me. But we have a ho of a job on it. Boy, they don't want you know how, you know, because they don't want me.
But we have a hoax going on right now and it should be stopped immediately by the attorney general.
It's a total charade. Yeah. Mr. President, you had in the last administration, your last administration,
you were looking at schedule laughing employees, which would enable you to get rid of a lot of employees who cannot pledge allegiance to the Constitution.
And of course, Joe Biden got rid of that because he wants to keep people in the swamp forever.
Can we count on something like that after your presidency, too, so we can, again,
get people in there who pledge service to the public and not pledge service to the Democrat Party?
Right. And I was the one that suggested that. But if you take a look at NARA,
NARA has red flagged the Constitution of the United States.
I don't know if you know this, and they've red flagged the Bill of Rights because they've red
flagged because they said they're dangerous documents or something to that effect. So you
have NARA, which is all radical left. That's the one that started this current hoax. But NARA,
radical left NARA, has the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States red flag because they're dangerous documents.
OK, that's where we're coming from. And now we'll get it all taken care of.
And you know that, Mr. President, one last question, by the way, by closing up our border and by drill, baby drill, as I said on CNN the other night,
they got one of the greatest ratings in their history, and they're going to
throw the guy out. I think they're going to throw him out for putting me on.
Mr. President, I hate to correct you. You know I like you. You're my buddy, and I don't want to
correct you on the air, but it's TNN, the Trump News Network, so please don't air that. It was a
big mistake. We're referring to it on this show only as TNN. So again, I hate to correct you.
Not trying to embarrass you, young trying to embarrass your young man,
but I got to take care of it. One more question, Mr. President. Listen, everybody from the
beginning knew the story was ridiculous, but a lot of people got taken down as collateral damage.
General Flynn, an American patriot, this poor George Papadopoulos, who we learned yesterday,
made exculpatory statements to a source in the FBI. In other words, said he had nothing to do
with this at all. And then they went into the FISA court and said, no, no, he's involved in Russian collusion.
I mean, a lot of people got taken down in addition to them trying to get rid of you.
Yeah, they got taken down and we're going to make, we're going to make amends to those people.
People were treated so unfairly. And by the way, I know how you feel about it, but what about J6? We have policemen, firemen, soldiers, military people, phenomenal patriots in jail.
But Antifa, BLM, and some of these other groups that killed people all over Portland and all over Seattle and all over Minneapolis and killed people and burned down the cities and took over the cities.
Nothing happened to them.
How about that?
Would you want us to think about that a little bit too? I will be. We will be.
Mr. President, I know you got to run. Thank you so much for calling in. You know you have my
support. I deeply appreciate it. Thanks a lot for your time.
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate it too. Thanks a lot, Dan. Bye.
You got it. There you go, folks. President Donald J. Trump.
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I got a message from a listener telling me I should stop the yelling
because I won't be able to turn liberals onto our side, you know?
Well, that didn't go well for him.
Enjoy this.
I got a message here from the guy who was complaining about me yelling during
it. But this is important because his answer is indicative of why I disregard people like this.
And I say all the time, if you don't want to listen, it's not an airport. You don't have to
announce your departure because the loyal listeners to the show, you know, I love you, man.
You know it. Take calls. There are more opportunities for you
to interact personally with me because I
don't want to feel like some elitist snob.
I got the microphone. I'm not in charge. You're in charge.
No, no. You are in
charge. Make no mistake.
If this show was pulling a two share in
markets, we'd
be off the air. The fact that this
show, I don't get into rating stuff often because it's
silly and it sounds, but I personally do. I just don't talk about it because that's my business i'm just
telling you some of the numbers we're pulling in our biggest markets are obscenely high because of
you jim's shaking his head because he knows what i'm saying is true we annihilate other people on
the airwaves in some of these markets i I'm not talking about later shows. I'm talking about in this time block.
You matter to me more than anything.
You can interact with me through the live chat every day in the podcast,
every day at 11 a.m.
We take calls at the end of the show.
I get it, not a lot.
I understand.
I read your Facebook messages during the show,
and we do questions for Dan tomorrow because you're part of this show.
But some people don't belong here.
And that's okay.
The guy who was complaining about me yelling
in my, just sent a follow-up message.
And this is so indicative of the losing attitude
a lot of people have in this movement
that will get you in this country destroyed
quicker than
anything. The guy's name is Jeff. I'll leave his last name out of it. He's talking about the
yelling part of the show, but this is a bigger thing now. He says, you can catch more flies
with honey. Okay. Cliched stupid stuff. Can we leave that out of it? He goes, maybe you should
try to appeal to the liberals and tell them it's okay to join us on the right instead of
calling them stupid we need more votes and calling them stupid is the wrong way to do it we're
divided and you're doing nothing except driving the wedge deeper sir you completely misunderstand
right now mr jeff the fight we were in completely i'm sorry but it's guys like you're going to get
this country destroyed this show is not for you go listen to another it's not for you it's okay you you you believe
liberals are waiting to be persuaded by conservatives about how they're wrong you
you actually believe you said that out loud you actually believe that you used the word liberals
i know you didn't say democrats because yes yes, there are some Democrats. And Jim,
do I not always say, I'm not talking about all Democrats.
I'm always very careful.
But you said liberals.
You really believe liberals.
The same liberals who
through January 6th, people, some of
them guilty of nothing more than a
trespass violation and a gulag.
Some of them for years.
The same liberals who spied on a president and a presidential candidate.
The same liberals who are currently trying to get the FBI to geotrack and follow around pro-lifers.
The same liberals that wanted parents speaking out at school boards targeted.
The same liberals that no matter how much money you give in taxes will want twice the amount.
The same liberals who stuffed your kid
into failing public schools in inner cities
for five generations, destroying any chance of prosperity.
The same liberals who want to defund the police
so you're murdered, raped, or robbed in the streets.
You actually believe that they're listening
to conservatives waiting to be convinced.
Mr. Jeff, get off the air, bro.
This ain't for you, pal.
The yelling isn't for you, and this show isn't for you, pal. The yelling isn't for you and this show isn't
for you because man, I'm really sorry. You are grotesquely misinformed and you are precisely
the reason that this country will go down in flames. You specifically,
because you actually believe that the people stare at you in the face and telling you to cut your kids' nads off at nine
years old because your son one time picked up a Barbie doll, you believe they're listening to
conservative radio going, oh, that's a good point. We shouldn't cut the kids' nuts off. That's a bad
idea. You're right. You're totally correct. They're convinced. Shred them nuts. That's a bad
idea. You're totally right, Jeff. You nailed it, buddy.
100% correct.
We should definitely not call that stupid or ridicule them.
Nope.
But we shouldn't do it.
We should say, Mr. Liberal, sir?
Mr. Liberal?
I don't think it's a good idea for you to shred that child's nads at an early age.
It's a really bad
idea. They just picked up a Barbie doll. Oh, thanks, Dan Bongino. Let me reevaluate that.
Johnny, should we castrate you today? I don't know, Dad. I picked up a Barbie doll. Let's not.
I heard it on the Dan Bongino. You actually believe that? You believe that? You're telling
me liberals who still believe there's a tape of Donald Trump getting peed on in a hotel room in Russia,
that no human being on planet Earth is seen, and it was paid for by Hillary Clinton by a foreign spy,
you still believe that exists?
The liberals still believe, you think you're going to convince them now that Donald Trump is their guy in 2024?
Let's just be nice to him.
Let's just be nice.
Donald Trump is their guy in 2024.
Let's just be nice to him.
Let's just be nice.
Well, Jeff, Daddy-O, this ain't the nice guy show, okay?
This is the go-yourself show to liberals.
That's what this is.
This is the go-yourself.
Yes, you do.
That's the show. This is the go-yourself show.
Oh, Dan, that's brutal. Yes is the go yourself show oh damn that's brutal yes sir it is
and here it is in the loudest voice possible yes sir
you are dealing in a manichean fight for the future of this country you get the double
barreled middle finger from me on the radical far left you get nothing you get nothing
nothing you get no respect you get nothing you will get nothing from me but ridicule and i will
scream in this microphone to the day i die if i think it's going to make this message
go far and wide about what a dumbass you liberals are.
You want to do cutesy time, man, you got to find a totally different show.
Because, man, you missed the mark with this one.
You're the same people who complained about mean tweets with Trump.
He hasn't tweeted stuff.
He drew a hurricane map one time.
Yeah, he did. GDP growth was 3%. We weren't throwing Americans in jail for showing up at political rallies. We weren't spying on political candidates.
We got a couple of Supreme Court justices in there. We got tons of other justices,
the appellate and circuit level. Roe v. Wade went down as a result. What's that?
Roe v. Wade went down as a result.
What's that?
Oh, yeah, the Abraham Accords.
Good point, Jim.
Yeah.
But he tweets.
He tweets.
He tweeted on Taco Tuesday.
That's you.
That's you, Jeff. This isn't your show, bro.
It's not your show.
It's not an airport, okay?
You want to leave and depart.
Just depart.
You don't have to announce the
departure it's okay the show is never going to change i think i've shown you i give zero f's
about what the syndicator says or anyone else for that matter i love the people put the show on the
air there are great pds and program directors and stations I'm very close friends with, but nobody tells me what to say ever, ever, ever.
I'll even help you out.
If anyone wants to call me to tell me what to say, just cancel the show before the call
because it's not going to end well.
I think you've already seen that in the last few months.
He was fired.
You sure about that?
You sure about that? You sure about that? Nobody tells me what to say ever.
I'm 48 years old. I've accumulated a small fortune investing in stuff I believed in,
fighting this free speech fight, despite every liberal on planet earth and their trillion dollar companies coming for me they took us down once the second time we hit we hit it man we hit it big
because we took a freaking chance i've survived cancer liberals democrats losers new york city
maryland running for office three times you think i'm gonna be told what to do
by someone oh my gosh we gotta be
really nice to the liberals screw the liberals because they will screw you in a heartbeat man
and you better wake the hell up to that this is a dog eat dog political wolf eat wolf world and
if you're not ready for it then back away and go listen to sports radio.
I'm sure you can hear who the Auburn quarterback is. I'm not interested in that crap.
You've heard me talk about sports once on this show because they're all woke anyway, and most of them hate you too. And I was trying to save someone a hundred million dollars in that
case, and it didn't work you should have listened
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the country squat nothing you got commies running this place ready to destroy it and burn it to
the ground you want me to waste my time talking about the Oscars hey the Oscars are at last tonight
let me tell you one back I don't give a who got the best picture nomination I don't care
I don't care I care about saving this place
And if you're wondering why I'm spending so much time
On some listeners feedback
It's because this is not the only
This is probably the 150th Facebook message this week alone
From someone pretending to be a conservative
Telling me you just gotta be nice
I'm not nice
Why do you care if I'm nice? You want to date me or something?
Why do you care? I'm not nice. I'm a mean a-hole. I'm not nice. You think I'm nice, Jim?
You're ruining this segment, Jim. Jim's telling you I'm nice. Thank you, Jim. You're a good man.
I'm not nice. He just took it back.
No, he didn't.
Okay, I'm nice to my friends.
But I'm not nice to liberals. Can we agree
on that? Jim's
saying, okay, I'll give you a pass on that.
I don't like liberals.
And I'm not going to be nice
to them. You want
me to be nice to the imbecile class?
You want me to be nice to... Justbecile class? You want me to be nice to him? Just perfect timing, Jim. Get Schiff ready. You want me to be nice to this loser? This pile of human waste?
Adam Schiff, a guy who just got totally busted by the Durham report, totally busted as the lead
player in the biggest political scandal of our time.
This guy should have resigned, apologized to his family, his friends, his neighbors,
his priest, rabbi, imam.
I don't know what he is.
I don't care.
He should have resigned in disgrace and committed to doing prison ministry for the rest of his life.
Just to somehow save his horrid soul from the Hades that awaits him?
You want me to be nice to this life loser?
Here he is after the Durham report on MSNBC,
not only not apologizing,
but attacking Durham,
who has zero history as a partisan,
and saying nothing at all about his role in the biggest political scandal of our time.
You want me to be nice to this guy?
Ah, that's a hard freaking pass on that one, bro.
Check this out.
Congressman Schiff, the Durham investigation ended up where there was plenty of reason to believe it was going to end up with a new report about nothing.
That's exactly right.
As you pointed, this is an investigation that started in a flawed manner.
It was conducted in a flawed manner. It was conducted in a flawed manner and its conclusion is a flawed conclusion.
It began in a flawed way because this was the result of Donald Trump badgering Bill Barr to investigate the investigators.
So it was brought really with no predicate, except this is what Donald Trump was demanding.
And this is what Billald trump was demanding and this is what bill
barr wanted to have undertaken now you want to be nice jeff you go ahead and be nice you want to
play ball with that and let me tell you something these people would hurt you at a moment's notice
and i use my words very carefully because i've seen it i have seen it up close and personal. You want to negotiate with them?
Now, there are Democrats out there, voting Democrats.
We do need to convince.
And if we can get a good portion of them to understand the threat, the existential threat to this country, we should do it.
Independence, too.
Liberals, they're gone.
Forget them.
They're gone.
They're gone.
So why do you debate liberals?
I'll leave it at this and I got to take a break.
Very smart man in politics.
I was listening to him speak one time down in Montgomery County, Maryland,
and I was running for office.
And he said, you should always take an opportunity to debate a liberal in public.
I was like, gosh, I remember thinking, why?
These people are idiots.
Why would we waste their time?
He said, because you're not debating them.
You're debating the third person.
Well, who the hell's the third person?
I'm debating the liberals, two of us.
What he said made sense about, I don't know,
three, four months later.
I was at the Baltimore County, the Maryland State Fair
up in Baltimore County, or Baltimore if you come from there.
Baltimore.
And this teacher's advocate comes up
and this total liberal wants to argue with me
about school choice.
This went on for like 10 minutes.
I was not breaking through to the lady at all.
Guy comes up to me after the lady walks away,
about five minutes later.
He says, I heard what you said there.
He said, that made a lot of sense.
He's like, you know, I'm a public school guy,
I support the public schools,
but he's like, I appreciate what you said there.
And it clicked what that guy had said. Forget the forget him man they hate this place they hate you they
hate everything about this country but take every opportunity to debate them because there's always
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one of the finest interviews I think we've ever done on the radio
show. What an amazing guest. Check him out on
Twitter. He's at Conceptual James.
He gave an amazing speech at Oxford about
wokeness. One of the best speeches I've ever
heard. We had a discussion about it.
Check this out.
So as I told you before the
break, if you're not following this
gentleman, you should. You can follow him on
True Social and on Twitter. He is
at Conceptual James. He is one of the best commentators out there on the
growing, very pernicious, malicious threat of Western
Marxism here in the United States. This is very real, folks. This is not a joke.
And this fight is an existential one for us. I'd like to welcome to the
show James Lindsay. James, thanks for spending some time for us. I'd like to welcome to the show James Lindsay.
James, thanks for spending some time with us.
We appreciate it.
Yeah, my pleasure, Dan.
What's up?
So, sorry, it's really like we're at a bar.
What's up, man?
I don't know.
What's up with you?
So I listened to your speech a couple weeks ago,
one viral on Twitter.
I think I had a role in that because I told everyone and their mother
to go and listen to this speech,
about 20 plus minutes long. But it is absolutely fantastic about the threat of
Western Marxism. And one of the things you address, I wanted you to talk to my audience about today,
is how this is all interchangeable for them. They'll use class if class is a way to divide
people. And when class doesn't work in the the west they'll move to another thing like race which is more immutable and visible but this is deliberate by their part these aren't civil rights
people fighting for people's civil liberties they're using these race arguments as a means
of division to fill that vacuum with this big government collectivist marxist uh uh threat
isn't that that's what they want yeah's right. And they're hiding inside those
civil rights movements. So they know there's legitimate issues around civil rights, and
especially that there have been in the past. So they hide in those things as radical splinter
cells. And then they erupt out these very intentional, deliberate tactics. But the key
point of the lecture I gave at the parliament in Europe was that when we look at Western Marxism, we have to look at Marxism as a system that attacks civilizations or societies.
And it's going to find where it can get in.
So in peasant societies like you had in Russia in 1917 and China like you had in 1949, it can get in through class.
It can work its way in through class division.
it can get in through class. It can work its way in through class division. But in the West,
the Marxists of the 20th century admitted it won't get in through class in America and Western Europe because we have class mobility. If you work your ass off, you can rise up in the structure.
As the Marxists themselves said, we see that capitalism allows people to build a better life
that stabilizes the working
class, so they won't be a revolutionary class. So they have to use the same motif, but they put it
in a different location. So I said, you want to think of it like with animals, like with genus
versus species. The genus is cats. In this case, it's Marxism. But if you think of genus as cats,
you got tigers, you got lions, you got house cats, you got bobcats, you got pumas.
They're all different kinds of cats, but they're all still cats. Here, Marxism is one type of attack on a civilization, one type of modality to take over, seize control of the means of production,
and ruin a society. And you've got class-based Marxism, which is classical Marxism. You've got
race-based Marxism, which is critical race theory. You've got what's considered normal-based Marxism, and that's queer theory and the gender theory. You've got,
based on men and women, patriarchy, or whatever you want to call it, you got Marxist feminism.
It's the exact same attacks, the exact same structure, the exact same goals. And the goal
is actually just to seize power. And whatever they want to do after they get power is what we're all going to get,
which looks a lot like eating bugs and living in pods.
James, you know, folks, I can't recommend strongly enough that you watch the entire speech.
Go to James's Twitter or True Social.
He's at Conceptual James.
Just click on the media button and you'll see the speech is just amazing.
It's about 20 minutes.
It's the best 20 minutes of your life
if you're really interested in this stuff
because you're going to get it right there
about what this is about.
James, you're right.
It's all interchangeable parts to get to this end.
We jokingly on the show play that clip
from Silence of the Lambs
where Anthony Hopkins is talking about Buffalo Bill,
the serial killer, to the FBI agent Clarice. And he says, what is it that he covets?
And I always try to get, when people ask me why, why does the left do this? Why does the left do that? I always ask them to boil it down to the essence, right? And you just nailed it. Their
goal is a collectivization of power. And that's hard to do james the selling marxism to people is difficult
nobody voluntarily gives up their economic freedom their educational freedom their health care
freedom nobody wants that even liberals don't liberals the liberals in congress didn't even
want obamacare they voted for the uh the federal health care employee program so they could pick
right so the way that the the marxists do this is just so devious how
they you know sometimes they'll take it by force but how they can get people to vote for them
and give up their own liberty and freedom and walk into this ideological prison it's it's amazing
that this pernicious ideology that's led to hundreds of millions of body bags still manages
to coax people into this prison well
there are masters of manipulating language and manipulating perception that you know we should
never underestimate our enemy i don't actually believe that they're smarter than anybody else
on average but i do believe that they're much more strategic and they're much more manipulative and
they're very very linguistically savvy so example, you can take a concept like socialism, which is
the administered redistribution of shares so citizens are made equal, and you can rename that
equity, which is defined as the administered redistribution of shares so that citizens are
made equal. And now it's called equity. It's not socialism anymore. So all of a sudden, you can get
people to say, well, this is really important. This is a very important initiative because some
people aren't being treated fairly. Our public administration apparatus needs to take it seriously. It needs to incorporate it as a key
pillar. And all of a sudden you have a socialist operation that's being called equity that nobody
recognizes as socialism. They're absolutely masters of this kind of deception. And the thing
is, is once you hand over the keys, they don't give them back. You have to really, really work
or really, really fight to get them back
yeah we're talking to james lindsey again twitter true social at conceptual james please follow
this gentleman he is worth your time james you're one of the few guys out there who really gets the
threat you know you victor davis hansen guys who can who get it i don't want to say if you
who gets it you get it and you can talk about it.
I've seen you.
I've had you on my show on Fox when I was still doing it.
I've seen you on other shows on Fox when Tucker was still there.
Now me and Tucker, I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
But you're one of the few guys who gets it and can explain it.
VDH is another one.
Thomas Sowell had a magical ability to do it.
Milton Friedman, although he framed it in terms of economics was really getting at economic liberty um you know hayek in the road to serfdom
another great book but i mean now that this we know it's not going to go away i mean you know
fukuyama's book throw it out the window right this is not the end of history as we know it you know
it's going to be with us forever how can we as freedom loving advocates for god-given
constitutional liberties and freedoms for everyone what's the best way for us to fight back a lot of
us are just like gosh why can't we just get rid of this plague on humankind well listen um first of
all we got to get rid of that hubris that we're going to get rid of this plague on humankind
because if i'm not mistaken it's the same story that's in the third chapter of Genesis. So it's the second oldest story in humanity. It's not
going to go away. But we do have to fight it, and we have to fight it in every generation. So you
already said the first thing freedom-loving Americans can do, which is that they have to
get off the couch. They can't keep waiting for somebody else to do this. They can't keep waiting
for this to blow over. And they have to start getting active civically. They've got to start getting informed. They've got to start learning about this, telling
other people about it, organizing. Look at the group Moms for Liberty. You've got like 150,000
moms moving in two years. You've got to start doing things like this. You've got to figure out
where can I help? And you have to ask yourself, you know, what am I good at? Everybody's looking
at Klaus Schwab and they're thinking, oh, my God, this is so big. How in the world can I touch something as huge as the World Economic Forum or the United Nations or the Biden
administration that's out of my hands? But your children are not out of your hands and they need
your kids to move this ball forward. So you need to protect your families. You need to get involved
with the kids in your community, in your neighborhood and teach them right values,
teach them skills. There are all kinds of things people can be doing. And what you need to do is
figure out what you're good at and what's close by and do the next right thing over
and over and over again. If you have the ability like you do on your show to reach out and expose
things or make things happen, you have to aim for the highest link on the chain that you can reach,
but don't try to reach a link on the chain higher than you can reach or just frustrate yourself.
So if you can expose something in the Biden administration, cause you have a big reach, go do that. If you can only help the kids
in your neighborhood, cause that's as far as you can reach, go do that. But there's no sitting on
the couch. That's great advice. Great advice. It reminds me of something Ginny Thomas told me a
long time ago. She says it all the time. She says, you know, we're the leaders we've been waiting for.
Like you just said, like, stop waiting for someone else to take the ball yeah you're right i have a great show i've been blessed
with thanks to my lord and savior jesus christ and these opportunities he's put in front of me
uh but that doesn't mean you can't make a difference too you know regardless of anyone's
feelings about jordan peterson he has a great line make your own bed first man make your own
bed before you want to change the world i want to get to something else though james uh one of the things i talk about on the show and uh if you think this is dumb please
tell me because i i you know i really like thinkers like yourself and i like to be course corrected if
i'm on the wrong path having been a law enforcement officer people ask me often you know dan i don't
get what the left gets out of street chaos, especially in liberal run cities.
And I said, from my experience working there, I have this walking dead theory that show the walking dead, you know, where they try to get away from the zombies and they go and they isolate themselves in an abandoned prison.
And I said, the only people who give up their freedom and walk into an abandoned prison are people who are more afraid of what's on the outside, i.e. the zombies.
So the left loves this street chaos.
This street chaos, it leads to this craving
for old-fashioned order and strong-arm government.
The left has always had street thugs on the street
doing their wet work and their dirty work.
This is a legacy of the left for decades now doing this.
Do you think I'm onto to something or do you have a
better answer as to why they love the street chaos and the defund the police stuff well you're
definitely on to something i'd say that that's a solid part of it you are absolutely right that
they want the chaos they want the destruction they want people to demand a solution and the
thing is is what they do is they always do this they create a problem then to say oh my god look
at this problem we have a program and we're going to come in with a solution. And that's what they're
always trying to do. So they're trying to get people to say, oh my God, there's this problem.
There has to be a solution. And then what they're very, very good at, again, with that master
manipulation is they point at somebody else and say, it's somebody else's problem. Look at Daniel
Penny right now in New York City. Oh, he's a Marine. They trained him wrong. Now the Marines have got to do all this stuff. They trained him wrong. They made him too dangerous. Now the Marines have got to correct themselves. And so they always push it off on somebody else. And they say, oh, yeah, well, here's what we're going to do. And it'll be some kind of surveillance program. It'll be some kind of something that they want that moves the ball in their direction.
And so half of it is to get people to willingly give up their freedom, and half of it is that they've got a solution in mind.
It's called the problem-reaction-solution cycle.
They create a problem, something happens as a reaction, and they use the reaction to introduce a predetermined solution that they wanted to move people toward in the first place, which is a kind of dialectical attack is what they call that.
And it's very successful for them. They're doing this much more successfully than in the streets. They're doing it much more successfully out in the schools. They're failing
the schools. And then what are the next thing they do? They say, oh, well, we got to get rid of these
tests. The tests are actually the problem. The tests have white supremacy in them. We got to get
rid of the LSAT. We got to get rid of the SAT. We got to get rid of the GRE, all these tests. Well,
we can't use GPA anymore.
GPA is racist.
So now what we're going to do is just have people tell a personal story and we'll decide
if who gets to go to college and who doesn't.
And it's one program after another.
They break the kids with COVID.
They say, oh my God, look at how traumatized all the kids are.
Look at the learning loss.
What we need to do is implement this new mental health program with the schools to fix the
kids.
So you see what I mean?
So on top of the zombie thing, you have the problem-reaction-solution cycle,
and it is a strategic move.
This, by the way, Dan, is the most important thing conservatives are missing still
to win this fight is that the left moves operationally.
Everything they do is a strategic operation.
It's not random.
It looks random.
It looks crazy.
But it's a strategic operation with a strategic goal in mind.
My gosh, you are, you're amazing.
Me and Jim watching Jim on the sky.
He's just shaking his head in approval. Like, damn, this guy's good.
James, we're loading this one up on the podcast channel too, Jim.
I know it's not out for two weeks, but you did not disappoint my friend folks.
Please follow him on Twitter and true social.
He's at conceptual james
and watch his entire speech it'll blow your mind it is worth your time it's on my twitter feed too
it says must watch and all caps so good james you are welcome back anytime matter of fact i hope
you'll come back i'm gonna have jim reach out and bug you once in a while if you're okay with that
but uh problem reaction solution so well said Thanks a lot for coming on. Absolutely.
Have a great day. You got it, bud. Wow. Folks, you see what I'm talking about?
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understands? That they don't know everything. And I don't know everything. There's a lot I don't
know. And when I don't know, I bring people who are smarter, smart people on to tell you things
like you just heard.
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This is a great lineup this week on the Sunday show.
Finally, here's the great one.
Mark Levin, who took the time to call me
on our second anniversary of the radio show. I wouldn't have been on the radio
without him and Sean Hannity. These guys really helped me a lot. Take a listen. So what a really
incredible surprise. I do my show rundown every morning at seven o'clock in the morning and we're
doing a rundown like it's a normal show. And Jim's like, yeah, you know, two year anniversary. Jim, we got any guests today?
And Jim's like, nah, nah, no, no guests.
You know, I said, okay.
And then right before the show, he's like, hey, we got a guest.
I'm like, well, who is it?
He's like, it's only the guy they called a great one.
Of course, how are you going to have anyone else?
So let me welcome back to the show, the greatest broadcaster in the business,
Mark Levin.
They don't call you the great one for nothing, brother.
I am so honored on my two-year anniversary
in the radio that you would call in
the show. You gave me my start, man. I'd be nowhere
without you. Thanks for doing it.
Danny B., two years. Can you
believe that? Two years. And I'll tell you what,
you are fantastic.
You are terrific.
And I want you to keep doing this.
The nation needs you very, very much. And two years,
it doesn't seem like two years, does it? No, it doesn't, Mark. It's the weirdest thing. I said
to the audience, you know, when you're younger, you know, time dilation is real. You know,
the time from first to third grade feels like it's 75 years. And then when you get older,
you're like, my gosh, was that two years ago? It's just the weirdest thing. I mean, I, I, it seems like yesterday and I want everyone to understand,
Mark, this is a, you're a humble guy, but I don't care. I don't care for this segment is my show.
And you're going to take this compliment and you're going to like it. Damn it. This guy folks
took a shot on me when nobody else would. Well, Sean was with me too. Sean's a good guy. He was always there for me. But Mark
said to me, he said,
listen, you want to fill in on my show?
I'd filled in on a radio show like twice.
I don't know what I'm doing. He's got one of the
biggest radio shows
in the cosmos. And you took
a shot on me, brother, and look what happened.
Now I'm here on the radio too.
You know what, Dan?
It's more than that.
Maybe I took a shot at it and so forth.
But, you know, you were running for office.
My wonderful wife, your wonderful wife.
We got to know each other.
It was very obvious to me that you were a step above, many steps above.
Cop, Secret Service.
many steps above, cop, secret service,
but also a guy that studied philosophy and market systems,
and I would listen to you talk even during your campaigns.
You know, to be honest with you, you either have it or you don't for radio or TV.
You either have it or you don't.
You can be the smartest guy in the world and nobody wants to hear it,
and you can be the dumbest guy in the world, and there's a lot lot of them and they're out there, but really nobody wants to hear that either. So you've got great experience. You've got
a great intellect. I mean, you really do. You're so thoroughly well read.
And there's one other thing. You're loyal as hell. And so am I.
And that's very, very important to me. It's important in the military. It's important
among cops. But it's important in the military it's important among cops but it's important period i come across people as you do who who want to come on they
come on talk about their but next thing you know they're stabbing you in the back it's like what
i said you felt it it's all right and it's it's one of the most disturbing things in the conservative movement, this proclivity for some to attack at the slightest thing a fellow conservative.
You know, it's crazy, Mark.
The liberals don't do this.
They'll have Rachel Maddow lie to them for five years about a fake pee pee tape.
Five years.
Imagine spending five years listening to Rachel Maddow about something that is fake.
You wasted thousands of hours of your life and they don't care.
Conservatives, the second, some of them, not a couple of them out there.
They turn on their friends on a dime.
I have been loyal to you from the beginning.
And, you know, Mark, one of the things I think people don't know about me or you is we don't agree on it.
Nobody does.
You have positions on things.
I don't share.
Mark has never once. But I screwed at a hole. I'm not having a moment. me or you is we don't agree on it nobody does you have positions on things i don't you mark
has never once but i screwed at a-hole i'm not having him on my never ever one time and i've
you will always be my buddy i will never sell you out i never sell my friends out and you you talk
about loyal you are ferociously loyal too everything from books every time i've called you
hey mark can you have me on for this bang zoom done you're a loyal guy too but but dan here's the thing
um about you this is celebrating you and your two-year anniversary a lot of people do this
and they don't make it for two years you're normally number one in your market, in your time frame, and there's a reason
for that because you connect with people. I think I do. Rush does. Sean does. It's very, very important.
In other words, the audience comes first. Everything else is second. Everything else is static.
The company that we work for, wonderful, but it can't interfere with us and our audience.
The company that we work for, wonderful, but it can't interfere with us and our audience.
Same with other people and same with other things.
The audience is key.
That's what Rush taught me.
The audience will stick with you if you stick with the audience.
Don't underestimate the intelligence of the audience and so forth and so on.
In conservative talk radio generally, we don't. We respect the audience.
Our audience is smarter than liberals.
Why? Because it's easy to want audience. Our audience is smarter than liberals. Why?
Because it's easy to want things. It's easy to destroy things. It's easy to talk in
shibboleths and so forth. It's not so easy to think for yourself because the social pressures
and the civil pressures are to go along. That's the left. We conservatives are,
you talk about ferocious, we're ferociously
independent. We think for ourselves. Therefore, a guy like you and me or a Scalia and a Thomas,
it's not a matter of where we end up. It's a matter of the thinking process. How do you get
to that end? To promote liberty and so forth. That's the bottom line.
So right, Mark, although you said it more eloquently than
I say all the time, the why matters.
You know,
why the left does what it does.
It's not just good enough to come on the air.
The left sucks. We joke and we talk
but they do suck. We get that they suck.
Okay, great. But if you don't understand
the why, the long-running
longitudinal narrative between
actions makes no sense. Once you get the why and you understandrunning longitudinal narrative between actions makes no sense once you get the
why and you understand the collectivist ideology mark everything just falls into place nothing is
confusing anymore you see it let me ask you a question though because you've got some big
interviews coming up huge interviews big shake up in the race tonight governor desantis out in
florida uh expected by just about everyone to jump into the race
at 6 p.m. tonight in Elon Musk's Twitter space. Your thoughts on that? I mean, President Trump's
got a loyal, loyal group of people. And you want to talk about loyalty. He's been ferociously loyal
to me. Sent a beautiful message at the beginning of the show. But Governor DeSantis done an amazing
job. You know, you got a place in Florida. I live in Florida full time. He turned it around. Is this the guy who could shake up the race?
Well, you know, Ron DeSantis is the real deal. I think people need to understand he's the real
deal. He's the most conservative governor in modern history, not just today in modern history.
And Dan, he fights the culture war. And even though Sununu and Christie and the others
attacked him for fighting the culture war,
he is a warrior.
And he fights that culture war, whether it's Disney,
whether it's the teacher unions and so forth.
I live in a state in Virginia where we have Governor Youngkin,
who I like very much.
But he doesn't do what Ron DeSantis does.
In other words, he says the same thing, he pretty much does the same thing,
but our schools are still completely out of control in Loudoun County,
which is where my other house is, which is sort of the red line for all these battles and so forth.
DeSantis is different.
Now, having said that, Trump was an amazing president.
His policies were amazing,
and they're trying to destroy him. They have their Democrat DAs. They have their hitman in
Washington, D.C. They have the media. It is nonstop. So for people like you and me,
this is very offensive, because if they succeed in that, then, you know, DeSantis is next,
and the guy after that's next.
In other words, this is a war on conservatives.
This is a war on our party.
This is a war on what we believe.
And if they can take out Trump, who fights like hell,
like few people I've ever seen, they'll take out anybody.
And you're starting to see their attacks on DeSantis and so forth,
which are really, you know, on Casey DeSantis' wife,
really low-down, loathsome type of attacks and so forth. And are really, you know, on Casey DeSantis's wife, really low down,
loathsome type of attacks and so forth.
And so we see that.
So people want to know, I'm sure, what you and me, well, who do you endorse?
Who do you know?
First of all, I'm not allowed to endorse right now.
I don't know.
I'm just not because I've been told you're not allowed to endorse now.
But I can live with either of these guys. But I have to say, too, like do, Donald Trump has been a hundred percent with me and Rhonda Santos has been a
hundred percent with me. So you tell me, who do we endorse?
Yeah. Yeah. I listen, I'm, I'm behind president Trump, Mark.
And I'll tell you why I agree with what you said.
Don't get me wrong. I love Trump too. And I want to make it clear. Yeah.
I want to make it clear.
It puts us in a bad spot
because you know someone said to me on twitter they said dan you did an interview megan kelly
you called ron de santis a backbencher uh i said no such thing i said the opposite i said unlike
the democrats we have a gloriously good bench led by ron de santis this guy's like it's like
babe ruth and lou gehrig. That's not calling
him a backbencher. Like, we have a bench.
What do the Democrats have? Pete
Buttigieg and Kamala Harris?
I mean, Mark, it's like
comically bad. It's like a
motley crew of buffoons out there.
I mean, we have a really bright future
and I think DeSantis is out.
I just, I think President Trump
deserves another shot. I mean, the Abraham Accords, regulatory reform. I think heSantis is out. I just, I think President Trump deserves another shot.
I mean, the Abraham Accords,
regulatory reform.
I think he's going to get,
I think he's going to get another shot.
And you can see that there's a base of,
you know, they say 25%.
It's not 25%.
It's over 40%.
It could be over 50%.
And it is a steady base,
no matter what they throw at him him because I'll tell you why.
A lot of people identify with Trump.
I call him the blue-collar billionaire.
And that's what he is.
And so a lot of people say if they can take him down, they can take me.
I just remember what my father once said.
You know, I backed Ted Cruz against Trump long ago in the Republican primary.
He said to me, why don't you get off Trump's ass?
He said to me, and I said, you know what, Pops, you're probably right.
I told Trump this myself.
But I don't think Trump is a more ferocious defender than me, too.
Because on this legal stuff, we've got a lot of phony formers who come out and talk,
you know, lawyers, professors, and the people who are going after Trump are diabolical,
absolutely diabolical.
And if I feel like I'm not a legal analyst, I'm an advocate.
And these legal analysts, you know, they tiptoe around everything.
I believe as a lawyer, as a constitutionalist, I got to fight for this man, because what they're doing a hundred years from now, they're going to write about what they were doing to Trump, how disgusting and outrageous it is.
And so we're not going to be around a hundred years from now. We got to fight this battle right now. It is a battle and we have to fight it right now.
It is a battle and we have to fight it right now.
And you, Mark, you called it from the start.
You were probably, not probably, you were,
because I remember that Mr. Potato Head over formerly at CNN who got fired, Stelter, that rotting bag of Cheetos.
I remember when you said there's a FISA on Trump.
He's a conspiracy theorist.
He's never apologized to you for that ever.
You called that first.
You were the first guy.
I remember I was at a gymnastics meet
for my daughter listening to one of your
appearances on Fox and you nailed it.
Mark, I only got two minutes, but
we're talking to Mark Levin, the great one.
But just an important issue regarding
radio that you've been at the forefront.
These threats to pull AM radio
out of cars.
There's a tinge of this,
Mark, that's political, knowing that conservatives have
dominated the platform. Your thoughts? It's 100% political. And you just saw Ford the other day
say, OK, we're not going to do it, which means the frequency really doesn't interfere with cars.
I mean, are you kidding me? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And if people don't want
to listen to am
fine but you don't make those decisions for them you and i believe in choice as much choice as
possible except when it comes to killing babies you and i believe in choice we should be able to
listen and so forth these corporatists if they're going to just try and shut us down by taking us
off radio they will succeed in doing what the left has never succeeded in doing. And it's tried a thousand times, which is why I've been raising the flag on this
far and away. And it's not just them. It's Tesla. It's BMW. It's a few others.
And notice how quiet so many on the left are about this because they think it's great.
the left are about this because they think it's great yeah it's amazing they'll throw uh binding and tuck uh transgender kids stuff in the kids section of target but god forbid you have that
am you can't have that mark only crazy people on am radio i don't know what the hell's going on
that's that's coming up next i I worked you into the segue today.
You always taught me a good host knows the ins and the outs.
You said to me, if you can get in the show and out of the show
and you can segue, you'll have mastered 90% of it.
I learned everything from you.
Folks, you just heard greatness on the radio.
The great one, Mark Levin, a friend, a loyal friend.
Yeah, you're going to take it.
You're a humble guy, but it is but Mark, you are a great man.
I'm so honored on my two-year anniversary that the guest was you.
Thank you, my good friend.
I love you, buddy.
You take care of yourself.
Love you too, pal.
Thanks, man.
You got it.
Mark Levin, folks.
Wouldn't be here without him.
That is a fact.
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