The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 06/12/22

Episode Date: June 12, 2022

First up today, we talked with Matt Walsh about his incredible new film that asks a very simple question: What Is a Woman. Next we had Former Alaska governor and Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Pali...n talking about Biden’s war on energy and her run for congress. Finallywe talked with Maj Toure, the founder of Black Guns Matter about the latest push to take guns out of the arms of law abiding citizens, a powerful interview from a very well informed individual. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:51 for the Daily Wire. If you'd like to check it out, dailywire.com or dailywire.com slash Bongino. That works too, if you want to send them their way. Matt Walsh. Matt, welcome back to the show. Hey, Dan. Thanks for having me. Hey, so the movie's just bananas. It's so crazy. Like, I watched it, and Jim and I, the producer, both saw it. And it's like you can't turn away from it because each interview in the movie is crazier than the last. You just asked a simple question, Matt.
Starting point is 00:02:19 What is a woman? And there's one particular answer I loved where the guy uses a circular definition. It's like asking someone what a pen is and he says it's a pen-like device that looks like a pen. They can't answer this simple question, can they? No, they can't. That was kind of the premise, the starting point for
Starting point is 00:02:37 the film. We realized that when it comes to all this gender madness, we can argue against it. We can shout and scream, and I certainly do plenty of that. But the more, I think, powerful way to approach it is just to let the gender ideologues talk, just ask them really basic questions. You know, going into it, the reason we call it What is a Woman is that I kind of knew that, well, this question of what is a woman brings down their whole house of cards. is that I kind of knew that, well, this question of what is a woman brings down their whole house of cards.
Starting point is 00:03:04 They can't answer it, which is a big problem for them because, you know, if a man says I identify as a woman, but then you can't tell me what a woman is, then that statement can't have any meaning. But what we discover making the film is that actually, yeah, they can't answer what is a woman, but they also can't answer any other question. They can't answer any question at all, really, about this ideology, about this worldview. As long as if you're asking the question with actual skepticism, like you actually are questioning what they're saying,
Starting point is 00:03:33 which is what a question is supposed to do, those are the kinds of questions they can't answer. And that's why usually when they're talking to someone, what they expect and demand and get angry if they don't get is just you sit there and they talk and you just nod your head and uh any question you ask should really just be a setup for them to launch into some talking point if you don't do that for them and they kind of they they fall apart as we saw yeah and it's not just one it's pretty much every interview had that one lawmaker mark whatever they walk just walk out and it seems at one point when you're interviewing him that the lawmaker there, it looks like he's looking to his staff.
Starting point is 00:04:08 At one point you bring up the fact that kind of sarcastically, you know, there's this kind of telltale way to see if a man's in a woman's room. You know, the guy has, you know, like a penis thing, you know, and the guy's like, do you notice he looks off? Was he looking at his staff for an answer? Like, what do I say here when you brought that up? if you watch the movie it's clear as day like he's uncomfortable with this question yeah that's exactly what he was doing in fact his aid was right over my shoulder the entire time and uh yeah as we as we started talking to some of these questions i could tell
Starting point is 00:04:40 he was very uncomfortable he kept looking off um he still sat there for for a while before he finally i think he was he was kind of you could see in his eyes he was back he was very uncomfortable. He kept looking off. He still sat there for a while before he finally, I think he was kind of, you could see in his eyes, he was beckoning to his staff to bail him out and shut the interview down. But she never did. So eventually he had to do it and he walked out. It was pretty great, but it was also, that's another one, the questions I ask, like if you are, he's a proponent of the Equality Act, which is supposed to codify this stuff on a federal level.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And among other things, means that men can use women's restrooms anywhere in the country. And so you're this is the legislation that you're sponsoring. I'm asking some real basic questions and raising some real basic objections that I'm sure you've heard before. How do you not have an answer to it? It's pretty remarkable. We're talking to Matt Walsh about his new movie, blockbuster movie, What is a Woman? Everybody's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You can check it out at dailywire.com. Matt has a podcast as well you should check out. So, Matt, I've heard a lot of interesting theories behind radical gender ideology the one that um you know entices me the most and i think explains it more full scope you know is the idea that the left loves division so division for obvious reasons it creates victims and then the left comes in and says look we're protecting you victims against these awful you know capitalists and republicans or whatever um And that works really well with identity politics, union versus non-union,
Starting point is 00:06:06 black versus white, immigrant versus non-immigrant. But they've always attacked the family too. And this is the perfect way to assault the American family, isn't it, Matt? By teaching a bunch of kids how different they are and how their old fogey parents just don't understand them. Is that what's really at the heart here? Yeah, I certainly think that's one of the things that lies at the heart of this is the attack on all of our institutions,
Starting point is 00:06:30 especially the most basic institution, which is the family. And that's why they're so upset at Florida with the anti-groomer law. Of course, the law, as everyone knows, at least if they listen to your show, they know that that law only would affect or stop the indoctrination of kids up until third grade. And, you know, normal people say, well, why would you want to talk to kids younger than that anyway? Well, that's exactly what the left wants to do because they're trying to sow the division between. They're trying to pull the child away from the parent and away from the parent's influence as early as possible. So I think that's a big part of it. Also, at an even deeper level, this is, I think, gender ideology most fundamentally of all is an attack just on the concept of truth
Starting point is 00:07:10 itself, which is why almost every interview I had eventually devolved into this. Well, what is truth? Well, whose truth are we talking about? You know, all that kind of stuff, because they don't want to admit that we have any shared reality whatsoever. The individual is supposed to be able to invent their own reality for themselves. And I think that's, that's really what, what they,
Starting point is 00:07:30 what they want the most. You know, I was going through social media this weekend. I've been fascinated by the response to your movie. The movie folks is called what is a woman daily wire.com and check it out. And it's just the response from the left just rages from, well, it out and it's just the response from the left just rages from well ranges from rage to anger
Starting point is 00:07:54 to almost like we face planted here but let's do a 180 and pretend we won one of them for example you're debating with the college professor guy and he does exactly that well what is truth well what is the woman will you tell me what you're a college professor bro like this is a simple question why i'm interviewing you and it's a fascinating interview i saw i left this post on twitter look at this guy own matt walsh and matt i swear i was trying to be as objective as possible i watched it twice and i'm like owned mavel this guy's a college professor who couldn't answer a basic question about this subject he proclaims not just to be an academic on, but like a really, really important learned academic who's so smart
Starting point is 00:08:29 he's teaching other kids about it and he couldn't even answer basic questions from you on the side. You don't claim any of those bona fides. Yeah, I think to the left with this film, I think they're kind of gone through the stages of grief and there are different phases of it, but one of the phases is denials.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That's some, some of that is just, Oh no, those interviews, Matt was embarrassed. I mean, no one can watch them objectively and actually come away to that conclusion.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But, but also that's to be expected, especially it's one of the reasons we want to talk to a college professor. We want to talk to one because that is the representative of academia, which is a big part of the story. But also, um,
Starting point is 00:09:01 I know how much it will upset people that I, you know, I'm sitting there in my flannel, and I didn't even go to college. I have a high school diploma that I'm armed with, and I'm sitting there with this person way more educated than I am, and it's just not supposed to work this way. I'm not supposed to embarrass him, and he's just supposed to teach me,
Starting point is 00:09:21 and I'm supposed to listen, and that's especially in the mind of a leftist. This is just, they're very elitist and they have a very kind of hierarchical view of the world. And so in that interview in particular, I think they're looking at it like, it's almost like sacrilege. The hierarchy has been totally flipped on its head. It's wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:37 This can't happen. This can't be happening. And so they just choose to deny it, I guess. Your demeanor, by the way, in the movie is priceless. How you just sit back and you stroke the beard once in a while and just let them talk. Jim, wouldn't you agree? It's probably the best. The visuals on the movie.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Don't listen to the movie. Watch the movie. Watch it. Don't listen to like the audio book later. Dailywire.com. What is a woman? Matt, a couple more questions. I'll let you go.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So doesn't it speak to kind of the really dramatic cultural shift in this country that the democrats listening to this show and you and i obviously both know that if you were back in the clinton ross perot george hw bush debates right back in the day and a moderator had asked the question um uh you know uh mr cl. Clinton governor Clinton can you please to tell us what a woman is you and I both know he probably would have laughed he probably would have said like well that's absurd like is this a real they would have thought it was a setup probably would had a staff come out say this is some kind of a joke we're being set up I mean this is the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:10:39 that was almost comical back in the day but now we've come to the point where this is an accepted mainstream thought on the left that a woman is whatever you think it is, rather than it being an adult human female, which is just common sense. I mean, is there any saving the party from this? Are they in throw to the radical left? And are they really finished? Are they divorced from common sense?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I think the Democrat Party is for sure. I don't think there's any saving the Democrat Party from this this uh they they're totally beholden to it it goes down it's just there's there's no severing the democrat party from kind of the radical lgbt and transgender uh at all but the good news is that we can i think save the democrat party forget about but we can save the country from it i I think. And that's not something that's going to be accomplished overnight, and certainly not with one documentary, but that's something that down the line, long term, I think we can.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's a fight we can win because gender ideology is so absurd, and most people recognize it on such an intuitive level, that the real thing now is just to get people to the point where they're willing to question it because there's a lot of fear out there. And I countered that, too, quite a bit when I'm talking to people on the street. And so that's the hurdle we've got to get over is the fear of asking these questions and opposing us. We're talking to Matt Walsh again. It's a new movie, What is a Woman? The only reason I brought up Clinton, Bill Clinton specifically, I should be careful there to be more descriptive,
Starting point is 00:12:11 is because, you know, Matt, Bill Clinton and his team kind of realized that they were going to have to make a shift. And, you know, you had that whole Democrat leadership committee thing after they got routed, you know, after two or three losses, Reagan, Reagan, Bush. And I think, you know, a couple of bad losses for the Democrats. I'm not optimistic like you, but it is possible that they could lift and shift and say, all right, enough of this crap. One last question. I'll let you roll. So one of the things you you interview a doctor in a movie and you bring up the fact that this drug is very powerful drug that they
Starting point is 00:12:46 claim is reversible to perform this chemical castration on these young kids is used for sex offenders and you'll see in the movie folks is a very uncomfortable moment where the shifting in the seats like i think this interview is over um that's an accurate statement she just didn't want to acknowledge the hard fact of the matter. Yeah, the drug is Lupron. Anyone can fact check me on this. It is the drug they give for puberty blockers for kids, and it is literally, by definition, chemical castration that they have used for that application.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Before that, though, it's actually originally a cancer drug for men with prostate cancer that, excuse me, is used kind of off label in this way. But you'll notice that she didn't, she took issue with the words that I was using. She called the words harmful and offensive or whatever, but she couldn't deny the basic reality because it is, it's, that's what it is. This is what we're giving the kids.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. And she was probably terrified. People go and look it up. Matt Walsh, congratulations on the success of the movie. You did a public service. It's called What is a Woman? It's available at dailywire.com. You can check out Matt Walsh's podcast there, too. Matt, thanks for your time. You're always welcome back.
Starting point is 00:13:54 We appreciate it. Thanks, Dan. Really appreciate it. You got it. That was Matt Walsh. Folks, check the movie out. It is one totally bananas, crazy interview. I mean, you'd think you're watching a Monty Python thing
Starting point is 00:14:09 until you realize this is real. It's not a mockumentary. That's a real thing, a mockumentary. They do a fake documentary. It's not. It's not Cloverfield where they pretend it's really a movie. This is actual interviews with people who want to chemically castrate kids and they can't answer basic questions basic questions what is a woman
Starting point is 00:14:30 dailywire.com check it out that was Matt Walsh talking with us about the most hated movie on the left I don't know maybe second hatest maybe it's 2000 mules what is a woman they're they hate them both up next we talked to former alaska governor now congressional candidate sarah palin but let me get to my next sponsor first we appreciate your patience here's former alaska governor and vice presidential candidate sarah palin talking about biden's war on energy and her current run for congress i'm excited to have on the show for the first time, former governor of Alaska, former GOP vice presidential nominee, and a good friend, Sarah Palin.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Governor, welcome to the show. Thank you so much. It's so good to talk to you. It is. We haven't spoken in so long. I was so happy to hear you throw your name in the ring for the congressional seat in Alaska. I think you'd be such an asset for the country. So just digging right into it, you know, the oil and gas, obviously an issue close to you. You not only were a governor, but a mayor in Alaska. It's a state floating on petrochemicals. And yet, Governor, we have now an administration hell-bent on making sure he bankrupts Americans at the gas pump while Alaska is again floating on a sea of petrochemicals.
Starting point is 00:15:49 What are your thoughts on that? Exactly. It's disgusting what's going on with Biden and his administration's failed energy policy. But it's purposeful what it is they're doing. And it is another step in their desire to see the destruction of America. And I will say it as bluntly as that, because it's so purposeful what's going on. You know, they had promised, Obama had promised so candidly, blatantly, that he was all about fundamentally transforming America. And you only fundamentally transform something for which you have disdain. So he and his ilk, who have been on this mission to destroy, to fundamentally transform the good things about America, they are just going balls to the wall to do so. shutting down our natural resource development projects that are more responsible and ethical in the way that we do them
Starting point is 00:16:49 than the dangerous, dirty sources of energy that they're relying on feeding America. And, yeah, it's disgusting. So, yeah, energy is my baby. I was a mayor and a governor, but also the chairman of oil and gas up here. but also the chairman of oil and gas up here. And that as a commissioner in that position at Alaska's peak, we were supplying 18% of the U.S. domestic supply of energy. And now with so many things shut down and we are, we're struggling. And it makes absolutely no sense.
Starting point is 00:17:21 God created this stuff for us, for responsible mankind's use underfoot. And here, oh Bideniden whatever his name is biden everybody does i do it too we all do it yeah yeah so anyway they're they're a mess and um it's pathetic because alaska another energy producing states you know here we're the fort knox of america we've got it up here the minerals the oil the gas the fisheries the waterways the strategic location on the globe where we are so many good things that are potential up here in alaska and um you know they're shutting us down they want us to be i guess a big old pristine national park or something but uh alans, we won't have any of that. Yeah, which is really odd. We're talking to
Starting point is 00:18:08 Governor Sarah Palin, now congressional candidate for Alaska. That's odd because Alaskans have figured out a long time ago, Governor, they figured out how to do this in an environmentally responsible manner. There were some problems, obviously, we had the spell, we get that, but there were
Starting point is 00:18:23 a lot of lessons learned. The pipelines were constructed responsibly obviously, with the spill. We get that. But there were a lot of lessons learned. The pipelines were constructed responsibly. Some of the wildlife actually seeks the warmth of the pipeline. It gets a little cold up there. I'm sure you know that. So these environmental arguments are really not serious. They're not really about the environment. They're just about starving the country of energy yeah absolutely that's that's the purposefulness of what the administration is doing they don't
Starting point is 00:18:51 want any solutions otherwise obviously they would be able to empower enable open up the land for responsible use and instead like i say we're relying on dirty dangerous sources of energy even from our enemies and that's it that's ridiculous so yeah there have been issues nothing's been perfect about oil industry up here but when things haven't been perfect for instance when I was governor I sued big oil in order to have them be responsible for any of the missteps that they've taken, like the Exxon Valdez oil spill. No, they better pay up. And, you know, we fought hard to make sure that they paid up in a decimation of some
Starting point is 00:19:37 fishery up here. But that was decades ago. And, yeah, since then. For instance, listen to this recently biden came into alaska and decided to close down one million acres in our cook inlet where we drill for oil there has not been a drop bill in cooking like the workers are safe the environment is safe and yet just recently a few weeks, he shut down a million acres. We can't even
Starting point is 00:20:07 explore in there anymore, much less just drill with a 15-inch ring for anything else to do. It should be online. Governor, are you in a UFC match or something? The connection's not that great. You're bouncing around. You're not like knocking out someone
Starting point is 00:20:23 right now, are you? The connection's not so great. Is that like speakerphone or something? Yeah, no, but I feel like it, doggone it. No, I feel like being in a UFC fight. That's why I'm running for office. All right, now we're here. Well, that's what I want. That actually is a perfect segue, kid you not to what i was going
Starting point is 00:20:46 to ask you before sorry just went out for a little bit there you know you become not because you've been a target for the left for a long time i remember when you were the vice presidential pick by john mccain and you gave that the speech you know the speech i mean my mother-in-law who is an immigrant to this country and is a loyal believer in patriot and liberty and freedom, an immigrant from Columbia, governor, she watched that speech and she called me, gosh, I'm getting a little emotional. That's weird. She called me crying. She was so inspired by you. I mean, you changed that whole race. I mean, it was downhill for them until you got in. And after that, you became public enemy number one. They were determined to rip you to pieces. So I think a lot of people, me included, who I really like you a lot personally and professionally, wonder like,
Starting point is 00:21:35 what inspired you to get back in it knowing you're just, this is all coming at you again? Because I have nothing to lose. President Trump called me a couple of times recently, even before I threw my hat in the ring here to replace our unfortunately now deceased Representative Don Young. And when he passed away, the seat came open. And Donald Trump and I, we spoke a couple of times about this, that neither, both of us, we're in the same boat. And that's why we've connected. We've been friends for many years, a connection being that we got nothing to lose. It put everything on the line. What more can they do to us? What more can they say to us about us, about our children? And that's the worst part, of course, is attacks on innocent family members. But no, there's a time and a season for everything.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And Dan, I've been one to preach forever that, you know, you don't need a title. You don't need an office to make a difference. Get out there and fight for what's right. But the good guys in D.C., they need some reinforcement. So we need more votes. And that's why I'm ready and willing and able to get back there and and fight for Alaska, fight for America. And, yeah, being public enemy number one for a while there that it just it just kind of secured even more fully the bond that I have with President Trump in that he being the real public enemy, number one of the bad guys. Yeah. We connect over that. Yeah. Well, we're talking to Governor Sarah Palin, now congressional candidate for the fantastic state of Alaska,
Starting point is 00:23:12 an amazing, glorious looking place, just beautiful. Governor, you know, we have a no-squish rule on this show. We don't have any squishes because I just don't have any time for it. I ran for office. I lost. It didn't work out for me. But one of the things I always respected about you is early on when I was one big nobody and probably am nobody's other people still. But whatever. When no one knew who I was, you know, you got behind me.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And I'll never forget when your people reached out and said, you know, the governor wants help. And it's not just me. You didn't get behind people who were fashionable candidates. You got behind people who were conservatives. I remember a candidate you endorsed in the Maryland's governor's race, who had candidly no chance of winning, but he was a real conservative and you believed in him. He was a friend of mine and he was so inspired by that. And I just want people to know that you're not some act. This is, you're the real deal. I saw it. I meant it. And I want everyone to understand that, that you backed me up and many others, not just me. You know, when you use your power and your social media and your voice to help those people. And I think even though it's one congressional seat, I think it means a lot if you are sitting in it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I appreciate that. And if nothing else, I am thankful for the discernment that I have, that I believe God has put in my spirit, a discernment for who's good, you know, and who's fake and who's phony and who's not capable and who are the good guys. And you definitely, you know, you're top, top, top of the list being the good guy. Well, thank you. So, you know, these others whom I had the privilege of endorsing early, early on, like Rand Paul. He endorsed me yesterday and he reminded me, you, Sarah, you were there when nobody else would be there for me. You helped me when nobody else would. People knew my dad, but they didn't know me. Ted Cruz is one who says I wouldn't be in the United States Senate if it weren't for Sarah Palin. But by the way, he hasn't come out and endorsed me yet.
Starting point is 00:25:04 However, you know, it's not... You better get on that. Jimbo. Governor, we're on a lot of stations. We're on one of the biggest ones in Texas, WBAP. We love you, Senator. You got to get on that. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:25:18 For what it's worth, I endorse you. I am endorsing. I am officially endorsing Sarah Palin. We're going to use that. By the way, sarahforalaska.com. I want to get your website. sarahforalaska.com. You should endorse her too.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. You know me well enough to know I'm not going to support somebody or endorse somebody expecting them then to reciprocate at all. But it is really, really nice when people remember that 10, 12, 13 years ago, if I helped them out, and it was just kind of a curiosity factor, perhaps, in helping them out, and then the media would pay attention to what it is that they're saying, and then they would get some ink, they'd get some eyeballs and some ears listening to them. It was a privilege for me to do
Starting point is 00:26:02 so. But it's really nice when people do remember that, because a lot of people in the political and the media arena, they don't care. They don't remember it. They use you, you know. But those who do remember and acknowledge it, it's like, cool, they're not a real politician then. Just like Trump. Trump came out early to endorse me. I came up really, really early and endorsed him. And, you know, i felt the wrath of
Starting point is 00:26:25 the political machine and the gop for doing so but i knew he was the only one who had the balls to take on hillary the balls to take on the media you're the greatest you're the greatest interview ever this is the second time you said like balls to the wall or ball we love the third time my producer's like this is the greatest interview ever you are one of the few politicians up there with president trump who i swear i never know what you're gonna say, this is the greatest interview ever. You are one of the few politicians up there with President Trump who I swear, I never know what you're going to say, and it is the greatest. That's why, Jim, right? This is why we don't have politicians on the show, Governor,
Starting point is 00:26:52 because I already can predict the answer. A focus group told me to say this. Sarah Palin's like, we're going balls to the wall. I'm like, I love this woman. She's the greatest. Governor, I'm running out of time. I got to let you go. But listen, for whatever my endorsement is worth. I'm running out of time. I got to let you go. But listen,
Starting point is 00:27:05 for whatever my endorsement is worth, I think you're the best. You have always been a friend and an ideological mentor to me. You've been great to people, some who haven't paid you back. And I know you're not in for that, but I want to pay you back by having you on my show whenever you want. And I want to tell everyone you are the real deal. And I think you would be a tremendous asset in that U.S. Congress, far more powerful than one out of 435. So thanks for running and thanks for spending some time with us. Thank you so much. And hear your words the other night.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You did the best show the other night when you were explaining about the tragedy there in Texas and what the root cause of the criminal activity is. Thank you so much. You talked about it. You heard that? Wow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Oh, my God. You heard that. Everybody needs to hear that. What a compliment. Thank you so much. Jim, get that on tape. We love you, Governor. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You're welcome back anytime. You got it. All right, folks. Governor Sarah Palin. Like I said, we can't stand political interviews. You can predict the answer every time. Not Sarah Palin. She's like, grow some balls.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Balls to the wall. Like, love it. This is no focus group there. We need more of that, not less. More of that. That was Sarah Palin. I always love talking to her. Finally, we talked to Maj Touré, the founder of Black Guns Matter.
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Starting point is 00:29:31 Here's our friend Maj Touré talking about the latest push to take our guns, take the guns out of the arms of law-abiding citizens. We're not having it. So we usually don't do previews for guests, but you heard him before on Jason Whitlock's great podcast. Our friend Maj Touré, founder of Black Guns Matter. He's so great on this topic of your God-given right to defend yourself. We wanted to have him on the show.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Maj, welcome to the show. What's up, Dan? How are you? Happy to be here. Yeah, it's always good to have you. You're always so, well, not only only informed but you're just so you put together your thoughts in a coherent way that I think the average listener can understand here on this god-given right to defend themselves so I wanted to if it's okay with you dig into the Matthew McConaughey thing yesterday and and Maj listen um I think he comes off like a likable guy I think you'd probably agree kind of guy probably have a couple adult sodas with,
Starting point is 00:30:26 you know what I mean? But I don't take my advice on constitutionally God-given liberties, including the right to defend myself, from Hollywood actors. And I was particularly offended about his policy prescriptions, like red flag laws, which I think are a government invitation to put guys like me and you on lists. I'm not down with the whole red flag thing. I don't know about you, but not me.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah, I'm not with it at all. And it's smart of the opposition. It's smart. McConaughey, I think, is from Uvalde, if I'm not mistaken. I think he's from that part of Texas. Nonetheless, it's a smart move by the opposition to get a charming guy, a convincing guy to do this thing. There's a movie called the devil's advocate with, uh,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Al Pacino, right? And there's a scene where he and Keanu Reeves are on a train and he's telling him like, Oh, you're like Southern slick. They see you coming. And he's like me,
Starting point is 00:31:16 you know, I'm the hand under the dress of the Mona Lisa. They, they, they never see me coming. These guys like Matthew McConaughey, Bill Gates, these types of guys, they're like the super nerd that, oh, man, he's not a threat,
Starting point is 00:31:29 or they're super charming. Actors generally, not all, because I have friends that are actors and actresses, generally there's a certain level of Hollywood, like, sociopathic thing here. Like, your ability to act as a character, he's the same guy that was in Free State of Jones. Somehow that means that we have to listen to you and your intelligence or acting ability translates into intelligence. And it doesn't. And he is allowed to be as charming and cool and witty and all of that as he wants to be. And the White House is allowed to, I don't know why,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but have this actor in there prescribing what our policy should be. But while he's free to do that, that has absolutely no bearing on my life and my ability to defend myself, my family, and my community. And I think people need to remind that the left has the right to be as dumb and foolish as they want to be. They can express themselves that way. They can hire paid guys with armed security details to say that we shouldn't have firearms, and we are free to completely ignore them and hopefully catch their next movie where they're pretending all over again. You know, Maj, you've been a frequent guest, whether you know it or not, on my podcast and radio show.
Starting point is 00:32:40 We played that clip of you on Whitlock's podcast. Often, man, there's so many gems in there I had you know in the interest of time I had to cut it down to a couple I like but one of the things you brought up with Jason I'd like you to address here too is the hypocrisy this whole thing too I mean again I'm sure the guy's emotions are authentic you're right he's from Uvalde I have zero doubt that he was really torn up with it zero Zero. But you have to remember, this guy's worth millions of dollars. He has the ability, literally, not figuratively, to go out with these millions of dollars he owns
Starting point is 00:33:11 and hire armed private security to secure his life. Maj, you know, struggling inner city folks, people who are living in high crime areas, that's not an option for them. So forgive me for not accepting lectures from the Hollywood elites. Kind of hypocritical, isn't it? It's super hypocritical, and it's almost an insult to our intelligence. It's almost as if Biden, these guys, and listen, I like Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I like Tesla. They're cool-looking cars. I personally don't want one. However, Biden and those guys saying, well, you know, that administration, just get an electric car. It's kind of like that. saying, well, you know, that administration, just just get an electric car. It's kind of like that. It's like, you know, just just get rid of the guns. Don't worry about it. We'll take care of you. The government will take care of you. Oh, by the way, as I'm being ushered off of the podium by my armed detail, I would have much more respect for these guys and again like you said i'm not contesting the fact that anyone that looks at what happened down there you're you're you're a weirdo if you're not you know frustrated
Starting point is 00:34:11 you're weird with that being the case that still does not challenge the fact or change the fact that you didn't take a principled stand to say i believe that these firearms are so-called weapons of war so much that all of my detail that is security and carry semi-automatic pistols or ARs, I'm not hiring them. There's a great movie called, I think it's Hacksaw Ridge, if I'm not mistaken, where this guy was actually anti-gun. He was like, I don't believe in guns. And he went to war. He got drafted. He went to war and didn't take a gun. That person I respect because you're principled in your stand and you're sticking to it regardless of what the situation is. But guys like this want to lecture to everyone else what they should do and not. But at the same time, you know, it's the medicine for y'all.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's not the medicine for me. And I just think that's a huge contradiction. And we got to highlight that. think that's a huge contradiction and we got to highlight that and and again he's welcome to maybe he's maybe he isn't aware that he's a walking contradiction in that regard but it's our job to use our voice as well to expose that contradiction that's you know i know the movie wasn't axel ridge it was uh it was axel ridge was that the one with andrew garfield in it where he plays like oh yeah i know i know i that. You're right. And yeah. And it reminds me of a story.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I used to, when I was in the police academy talking to Maj Torre, you know, Matthew Modine, he's an actor too. He was in outbreak and that wrestling movie. I'll never forget this. This is back in,
Starting point is 00:35:38 I don't know, 95 and it's hot in New York city, man. And when you get the black top Maj, it's super hot. And Matthew Modine's a big climate guy. Which, listen, I don't agree that man-made climate alarmism is going to end the world in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't. But you know what I respected? I used to see him every morning on his bike. Even in the Manhattan 90-degree heat, the guy was worth millions of dollars. And I was like, okay, I don't agree with him. But you're right. I respect it. What I totally don't respect is, like, okay, like, I don't agree with him, but you're right. I respect it.
Starting point is 00:36:05 What I totally don't respect is, like you said, these rich Hollywood elitists with their armed staffs around them telling a bunch of people in Baltimore, Maryland, hey, listen, daddy-o, you're on your own, buddy. Sorry. I mean, that's just like a kick right in the balls, man. I mean, come on. People have constitutional rights whether they live in Baltimore or Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's just frustrating. These guys need to have, if they're open, and I want to believe. I don't fully believe, and I'm not very confident. But if I want to believe that they genuinely want to have good faith conversations about what can keep our children safe. When you're talking about telling young people in the entire administration, just run, just hide and possibly fight. You haven't told them what they're running to. They have no idea of what firearms sound like in a concrete building, how sound travels. They do not even they don't even know where to run. You're telling them to hide. You tell and I get it. You may think that that's the case. Maybe you should bring someone that actually trains, that knows about ballistics, that knows about escaping, that knows about firearms ownership, organizations like Faster Saves Lives, Black Guns Matter that can come educate people on how they can actually be safe and not make these young people and the administration actual targets. I want to believe that if they were open to a good faith conversation about a holistic
Starting point is 00:37:30 approach to solving this, which ties into the psychotropic meds and all that other stuff, I would be open. And I think everybody would be open to sharing that information with them. But my gut, my gut and a little bit of history tells me that they just, you know, like the interviewer said, are you just grandstanding right now? My gut's telling me that some of these guys are just grandstanding for the moment. And that might have just been a dry run to see if this guy is going to like be a Texas governor or run for president at some point. That's the only thing that I can do until they actually do and say a thing that's keeping our actual children safe while preserving
Starting point is 00:38:05 individual rights to keep and bear arms. And Maj, he's free to run for office. I did it. I lost. I did it. I did it three times. I mean, it's hard. Running for office is hard.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You got to knock on the damn doors. You got to raise the money. You got to eat a thousand chicken dinners at Lincoln Dinners. It's hard. If he wants to do the work, he can do it. So follow Maj, by the way. He's at Maj, M-A-J-T-O-U-R-E on Twitter, at Maj Touré. Please, he's just a really, really good guy, and you won't regret it. At Maj Touré.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Maj, one more thing I wanted to address with you here, and take your time with this. I don't trust the government. I don't want to put words in your mouth but i just don't i'm i'm sorry they've i have no reason to trust the government after spy gate the hunter biden laptop thing the metadata spying i'm i just not interested i don't trust concentrated power so red flag laws which would give government a reason without due process to come to your door and confiscate your weapons, combined with what they call universal background checks, are a danger zone to me.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I explained this to my listeners before, because really what they want are private-to-private background checks, meaning if you wanted to give to your son or a relative or whatever, your firearm, and they're not a prohibited possessor, the government, that's not their business. The government wants a, quote, universal background check because they want to make sure they know where that gun is even if you want to give it legally to your kid now put those two together now you've got red flag law as a reason to come
Starting point is 00:39:32 to your door maj torre everybody knows you're the founder of black guns matter it's no mistake that you you know like your constitutional rights now they have a reason to come to your door because of a red flag someone doesn't like you and, they know where every single gun is and who you gave it to because there's a list. That's the real reason they want universal background checks. Criminals don't get background checks, Maj. They're criminals. They're prohibited possessors. Your thoughts on that?
Starting point is 00:40:00 So first and foremost, what they're doing showcases a bigger move on a chessboard and shows their general intent in regards to the lack of respect that they have for law enforcement that they say they love and care for so much, because they're not going to go to execute the red flag and get me out of North Philly where I live or any of my friends. They're going to send law enforcement guys, first year, second year, third, whatever. They're going to send guys in there with firearms because someone said that I may have something. And in doing so, oh, where's that gun that you want to give to your son? They don't care about law enforcement so much that they would send them in Texas and Florida and Georgia and Utah. They would send these law enforcement officers to a place to violate someone's Fourth Amendment rights, then violate their Second Amendment rights, potentially putting those law enforcement officers at risk of death. Because the constitutional guys that I know that know that they just want to be left alone like old dudes. Listen,
Starting point is 00:41:03 young whippersnapper, leave the old dude alone. He just wants to have his sandwich, have a great day, go to work, and go home. You keep poking that bear to those Constitution, freedom, liberty-loving Americans that are actually the salt of the earth. Those are the people that you're picking on, veterans, law enforcement officers, retired, and things like that. People, working-class people that just want to do the right thing. You'll send law enforcement officers there, and you'll have a potential where there will be a standoff. That's how much they don't care.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That's how much that they are willing to get power by any means because the vast majority of people will just comply because the general public wants to do the right thing. We don't want to break laws. We don't want to be laws. We don't want to be violent. We generally aren't. So with that being the case, that just shows how much they don't care. The irony is, again, same thing with these guys writing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:54 If they said, you know what, we really think these are weapons of war, we want to principally say we don't even want law enforcement to have these. If you really thought that, you know why they wouldn't do that? Because they'd wind up having to say the same exact thing that we as firearms owners say. Well, how would the law enforcement officer protect themselves from the bad guy that won't follow the rule if they don't have the gun? So they're walking contradictions while they're moved. If you pay attention, they're very crafty. While when you look at them, you see how much they don't even care for their own agents of the state.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's a walking contradiction. It's time for Americans to wake up and you have to push back. We've been too quiet because we're respectful, freedom loving people. Hey, do your thing. I'll do my thing over here. That only works when that right to let others live and let live. That only works when that right is being reciprocated. And it's not now. We have to speak up more. You're darn right. Folks, please give this man a follow. He is on Twitter. He is
Starting point is 00:42:54 at Maj, M-A-J-T-O-U-R-E. Give him a follow. He is a really great guy. I've known him for a long time. Speak from the heart, my friend. You're always welcome back on the show. Maj, thanks for your time. We appreciate it. Thanks so much, man. Talk to you in a bit. You got it. That was Maj Touré with Black Guns Matter.
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Starting point is 00:44:19 your own life uh that is a god-given right a capital capital R right. That is not a right granted to you by the Constitution. That is a right protected by the Constitution, and we should defend it. We should always defend it. That's why they put in there explicitly in the Second Amendment, shall not be infringed. Thanks a lot for listening. If you'd like to listen to the radio show again, go to Bongino.com, click on Station Finder, and find out where I'm on near you. Thanks again. See you on Monday.

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