The Dan Bongino Show - The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 10/30/22

Episode Date: October 30, 2022

First up is Dinesh D’Souza about his book version of 2000 Mules out now and we talked about the upcoming election and what has and hasn’t been done to make it secure. Next up is Kari Lake, a great candidate for governor in Arizona and a rising star in the Republican party and in an important race. Then we talked with Dan Horowitz about the outrageous decision by the CDC recommending the COVID vaccine for kids before letting them go to school. Finally we talked to Kelly Tschibaka of Alaska, a true conservative who’s running up against the Mitch McConnell candidate Lisa Murkowski Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We talked about the upcoming election, what has and hasn't been done to make it secure in light of what he exposed in his movie 2000 Mules. This is an eye-opening interview, folks. If you're interested in elections, winning them, and keeping them secure, don't miss it. All right, love to welcome back to the show. A good friend to the show, the man who put out the movie 2,000 Mules, which a lot of us found incredibly troubling and fascinating,

frightening and interesting at the same time. Dinesh D'Souza. Dinesh, welcome back to the show. Dan, always a pleasure. Great to be on. Well, thank you, sir. It's always great to have you. So your movie 2,000ules, scared the hell out of a lot of people, me included. It's so informative and very well done.

And in the movie, you pointed out that there are some obvious security problems with these ballot boxes that are left unattended. You know, it's pretty obvious when you go in to vote at a voting location. You go there. In many states, you have to present an ID. In many states, you don't. Either way, there's typically a person there. So if Dinesh D'Souza were to try to commit voter fraud and bring in, say, 20 different ballots from 20 different people he didn't know from a harvesting location, it would get kind of weird as you walk back in 20 times. That doesn't happen at these ballot boxes.

And 2000 mules, you know, showed that you see the response, though, Dinesh. mules, you know, showed that. You see the response, though, Dinesh? Now the left is paranoid. They're poll watchers and people have taken it upon themselves to legally watch what's going on at the ballot box. The left's freaking out. They can't believe that we would actually want to see what's going on in this system. It drives them crazy. I mean, let's think about this, Dan. If you look at the CISA, the CISA is the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Agency. Their election rules require that all mail-in drop boxes have 24-hour surveillance. So my first question is, in an era where you've got surveillance in every parking lot, every mall, every Home Depot, every post office, why wouldn't states have surveillance on every drop box? why wouldn't states have surveillance on every drop box? Patriots wouldn't have to camp out at drop boxes if there was, in fact, the required surveillance installed.

But we know from 2020 that very little of that was actually done. Now, then the excuse was COVID. We never got around to it. But there's no excuse for not having surveillance in 2022. Yeah, no, there's none. I mean, why? 2022. Yeah, no, there's none. I mean, why? The only reason you wouldn't want surveillance of a ballot box location is clearly because you're interested in cheating. That's the only reason there is no other reason you wouldn't want that. And then the thing is, Dinesh, their logic here is so tortured. So you're not allowed to question the integrity of elections, although they do it all the time. And then when you suggest things that would increase people's confidence in the public election process, like, hey, how about we institute a vigorous surveillance system of these ballot boxes? The left goes, no, no, no, no, no. You can't have that either.

I mean, this is really a damned if you do damned if you don't in the classic sense, isn't it? if you don't, in the classic sense, isn't it? Well, a very good way to think about all this is simply to ask, in any context other than voting, would this requirement be suspect? And so take voter ID. Nobody says that if you show up to a bank and they ask you for an ID, you know, it's banking suppression. Nobody says that if you show up at an airport and they ask you for an ID, it's airline suppression. But somehow, if you show up to vote and they ask you for an ID, it's voter suppression. So right there, you know something's wrong because it is only in this context that the ID is interpreted as some form of intimidation. The same with surveillance. Nobody questions the fact that there's constant surveillance, particularly when there is the possibility of something being of some sort of

shenanigans going on. And yet when it comes to the mail-in drop boxes and only the mail-in drop boxes, suddenly surveillance becomes something that's threatening. It's going to scare people. It's going to deter them from voting and so on. Why would you be deterred from voting if you were casting a lawful vote? We're talking to Dinesh D'Souza. Check out his movie, 2000 Mules. It's 2000mules.com, right, Dinesh? Is that the website? It's 2000mules.com. And there's now today out a new book that sort of more systematically and fully lays out that case. Things that you can't put in a movie are in the book and also an answer to critics. Oh, great. Where do they get the book? Wherever you can buy books?

Oh, yeah. It's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, just about anywhere that you can buy a book. Oh, wow. I'm sorry, Dinesh. My apologies. Jim had told me that. And you got to get me a copy of that ASAP. I need that.

I'll be reading. I will get it right off to you. Thank you. I'll be reading passages of that on the air. I did a three-hour special for 2,000 Mules. I was so fascinated by your movie. So I get a lot of this. Maybe you can answer this, Dinesh. And if you if we disagree on this, it's OK. You know, we're conservative. So we believe in vigorous debate. But I get this question a lot from listeners. Facebook, the message portion, which I leave open, they'll say, Dan, I have no confidence in the system. I'm not voting because by voting, I feel like I'm kind of I'm putting my stamp of approval on a system that's that's broken. And my response back to them is, well, every system is inherently broken. You know, we're a society of sinners and fallible human beings. And in the world,

this lived on the margin. The national mean everything's gray. You got to vote. Even if your vote is diluted by illegal votes, it still matters. That system sucks. I wish there was no voter fraud, but you've got to vote. I mean, if we didn't vote, we wouldn't have Ron DeSantis. You know, we may get a Carrie Lake in there. How do you respond to that after having, you know, put 2000 meals out there and exposed

this massive fraud to people who say, I'm, put 2000 meals out there and expose this massive fraud to people who say, I'm out, I'm not doing it? Well, the thing the thing to realize is that, you know, they are right in the sense that once a system reaches a certain point of breakdown, then the system itself is gone. I mean, obviously, an extreme example would be like Stalin's Russia, there's no point showing up to vote, the system is completely controlled and rigged. We are not in that situation. In fact, I would argue that one of the benefits of 2000 meals, number one, more people are aware of it. And when you're aware of something, it's harder to do it. I mean, if I were to tell you that at a given bank in New York City, they're going to come rob it at 7 p.m. on Saturday. Well, it's going to be harder for the

thieves to go, yeah, 7 p.m., let's go. You know, they're not going to be, they're going to come rob it at 7 p.m. on Saturday. Well, it's going to be harder for the thieves to go, yeah, 7 p.m., let's go. You know, they're not going to be they're going to be deterred in doing it. More Republicans have signed up to be poll watchers, poll observers, poll judges. So there's a greater level of participation. Frankly, it's much harder to cheat in the midterm. Why? Because it's easier to rig the ballot for one guy. Let's just get Trump out of there. Then when you have multiple candidates at multiple offices in multiple different states organizing the mules for that, much harder to do. I'm not so much worried about 2022.

I do think that we need to take some important steps before 2024 to protect that presidential election. Dinesh, is the title of the book 2,000 Mules? I'm sorry. I'm a little woozy. Yeah, no, no, it's the same title. And the book cover actually mirrors the poster of the movie. So it's the companion book for the movie. And normally I release them together. But in this case, I wanted to get the movie out. So the movie sort of outran the book. But the book, the good thing about that is that the book has a full refutation of the critics of the movie. How do you refute the critics? I know you and I've discussed this before, but given that they've really panicked about this and I haven't seen a full throated, you know, a 30 front war against a movie about election fraud or a book or

a research project like they they came out against 2000 mules they've resorted to a lot of personal attacks against you against greg against katherine i think it's because they're frightened about what you guys uncovered but one of the things i get often about 2000 mules from lefties is you know the cell phone data is just not accurate you can't tell that a mule was going to a ballot box in contrast to just driving by one, which let me just say before you answer, Dinesh, I find interesting because the left wanted to squelch the same cell phone data because they were afraid that people on the right would monitor who went to abortion clinics, which I find weird. If the data is not accurate,

it's not accurate. So how do you respond to that criticism? Well, it was particularly astounding coming from Bill Barr. I mean, it's one thing if you get it from, you know, the fact checker at AP who's, you know, 20 something graduate from Portland State, doesn't know anything about geo tracking, doesn't know anything about election law. But here you have Bill Barr. He's been head of the DOJ. And as you know, the DOJ uses cell phone geo-tracking every single day. I mean, they found Mike Lindell in the drive-in in Hardee. How did they know he was there? They're tracking his phone. So they were able to pinpoint his location. FBI cars come up, they take his phone, but he was located through cell phone geo-tracking. It's used by multiple agencies of the government. So it is, again, applying this general principle, it is regarded as accurate in every single context except one, and that is ballot trafficking. Yeah, it's just weird. I keep reading these stories about how they're so terrified, the left, of people being tracked into abortion clinics using the exact same technology

and when you mention in this context they lose their minds it's frustrating though Dinesh making these arguments to people who clearly don't have good intentions they're not making reason arguments they're making political ones while pretending to be fact checkers and journalists the perfect example is what's going on with Stacey Abrams who keeps making increasingly ridiculous claims about voter suppression down in Georgia. You know, you understand correlation and causation. She's making a causal inference saying that voter ID measures in Georgia are going to cause votes to be suppressed. Yet, Dinesh, as you know, voter turnout in Georgia is now reaching record levels, almost to the point

of a presidential election level of turnout during a midterm. So not only is there no causal relationship, there's a negative correlational one. In other words, they had a voter ID law pass and turnout went up. I mean, it's really hard to debate these people when basic premises of logic just collapse in their own brains. That's right. See, lawyers like Mark Elias have been going to court and insisting that an ID requirement will suppress the vote, will keep a lot of people at home. And then when empirical data comes out that shows the opposite, you never get these guys go, well, gee, you know what? I actually was wrong. I'm very happy to see that turnout has increased. No, they just double down. And now a very disturbing line of

rhetoric I'm beginning to see. You saw a little bit of it from Hillary Clinton. You also see it from people like Bill Kristol, Max Boot. They're basically acting like voting for Republicans in the midterm is a form of anti-democracy. It's coming out against democracy. Why? Because presumably the Republican candidates are, quote, authoritarian. And so even if they win through the Democratic process, essentially the only way to affirm democracy is to vote for Democrats. It's a bizarre logic line, though. I you know, I've always respected you. I watch your videos debating on college campuses and you're just so eloquent and good at it. But when, when you distill that down, that's kind of a,

I saw that thing by max boot today, by the way, it's just bizarre. I mean, how let's debate this, right? So we're the authoritarians Dinesh yet. We're the ones fighting for tax cuts to give you back more of your money.

I'm fighting to, you know, so you can control the public school system to allow your, you know, to kid to go to school. We're school choice advocates. That doesn't sound authoritarian. We're the ones fighting for patient centered healthcare to allow your you know the kid to go to school we're school choice advocates that doesn't sound authoritarian we're the ones fighting for patient-centered health care not you know government top down rationing i don't get we're fighting for regulatory reform where where government doesn't get to tell you what to do if you're a hair braider

in minnesota that doesn't sound authoritarian to me it It sounds like the the opposite, like they're doing kind of a flipper accusing you of what they're doing. Well, I think what's going on is that it does. Remember, this is a worldwide phenomenon. Bill, you know, Georgia Maloney wins the Italian election. So now it's anti-democratic for her because she's an authoritarian. I think what's really going on is the left is confusing progressivism with democracy. They seem to think that democracy must always render a progressive verdict. So the fact that you and I and the GOP and Viktor Orban in Hungary and Giorgio Maloney in Italy, we believe in democracy, but we're not progressives in the modern sense. They somehow believe that if democracy doesn't render a progressive verdict, it's not really democracy. Dinesh D'Souza, I got about 30 seconds left. He's got a new

book out, folks, about 2000 Mules, 2000 Mules available now, wherever you get your books, please pick it up today. It is such an important piece of work. What Dinesh has been up to. I only got about 30 seconds, but are you confident in the next presidential election of midterms or right around the corner? We get that. But the next presidential election that we'll be able to clean this mess up. What do you think the 2000 mules disaster, all these ballot mules, we're going to see a resurfacing of that. Let me say that I think our destiny is completely in our own hands. There's no reason to be fatalistic. I have a line in the film repeated in the book where I say that, you know, Republicans focus on the campaign.

Democrats focus on the election. They focus on the actual administration of the election. Where do the drop boxes go and so on. So I would just urge Republicans become more involved in the process. And that's the best security we have for our elections. That's great advice, Dinesh. 2,000 Mules, folks, the book out today, the book out, please get it, 2,000 Mules, wherever you get your books. Also, if you've not seen the movie, it is 2000mules.com. That is the website. It is a must watch before the election coming up in a couple of weeks. You'll see what's on thanks for your time as always we appreciate it dan always a pleasure you got it folks now you can see why one of our most popular guests very very smart guy i was watching him debate people on uh videos on facebook eight nine years ago before i even had a podcast so good that was

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She really is a rising star in the GOP and the conservative movement in a critical, important race. Don't miss this. is a rising star in the GOP and the conservative movement in a critical, important race. Don't miss this. So there's palpable excitement in the audience over this interview. I can feel it. I leave my Facebook page open for messages so you all can speak to me. And I gave it a lot of great guests on this show, but people are really, really excited about the guests I'm about to welcome into the show. She is a candidate for the governorship of the wonderful, beautiful state of Arizona. She is a conservative. She is a rising star in the party who's garnered a lot of attention and appropriately. So her website is CarrieLake.com. Carrie, K-A-R-R-I Lake.com. I want to welcome to the show Carrie

Lake. Carrie, thanks for joining us. Oh my gosh, I am so excited. Maybe that's what you were feeling. The excitement was coming from me. Gosh, I just have so much respect for you and what you're doing. I am personally really stoked about speaking to you. I met you one time at an event. It was brief.

There were a lot of people around you. Everybody wanted to talk to you. And Carrie, I think it's because you have that kind of je ne sais quoi, you know, you have this, you have a gift. I mean, I don't want to start with excessive flattery and make you uncomfortable, but you do, you have a gift. I don't see in a lot of politicians and insist ability to just fight back and instinctively answer a question without having to look like you're going through mental gymnastics. Is that a product of your career in the media before? You don't see it a lot. You,

you don't, is that, is that your media training? I think so. Well, first of all, I will take the flattery after $10 million in attack ads. If somebody throws me a compliment,

I accept it. You got it. I think it is. And, and the fact that I, I don't really want to be a politician. I mean, I, it. You got it. I think it is. And the fact that I don't really want to be a politician. I mean, it's gross, to be honest. I'm just in this because I see problems in Arizona. I think I can fix them. I know I can fix them, especially with we the people behind me. And I don't know how to speak anything but the truth. I was just with one of my campaign

staffers yesterday, and we were talking about, we were going on a big interview on Fox. And she was telling me some things, and she goes, why am I trying to tell you anything? You're just going to go out there and say what's on your heart. What the heck am I even thinking trying to tell you what to say? I don't do well being coached on what to say. I just have to speak from my heart. And if that gets me in trouble sometimes, so be it. I'm here to speak the truth.

I'm not a good liar. But apparently, even though I'm not a good liar, we're doing well in politics because people are ready for the truth, authenticity, and somebody who's going to push back against all that we know is wrong in society and in this world right now. We're talking to Carrie Lake, a conservative rock star right now, running for governor in Arizona. CarrieLake.com is the website. I agree with you.

I remember running for office myself. I was not successful. It just wasn't for me. It didn't work out. You know, horseshoes and hand grenades, right? But I remember them trying to set up these little focus groups, and I would get into arguments with the focus group

and my campaign crew just eventually stopped because it became a waste of time. And they were nice people. It wasn't, I have no ill will towards them at all. But I think what happens, Kerry, and I think you've seen this, is being that you're not a politician and you're from outside that ecosystem,

they all, you know, it's that old adage, right? To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Do you find that too, where you're from outside that ecosystem, they all, you know, it's that old adage, right? To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Do you find that too, where you're like, no, I'm not going to say that that way about immigration. It's illegal immigration. I'm going to speak about it because it's a breaking of the wall. Like I'm not going to massage it and be cute about it. Do you get that same experience?

Oh, totally. I mean, when we got into the general, somebody on my staff, I didn't know it. They were working with a company to do a bunch of polling to figure out what people were concerned about in the general. And I said, well, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. First of all, cancel this. We're not doing it. We're not spending, you know, $30,000, $50,000 on something so stupid. We're not going to change our message in the general. I know that

that's what every other politician does. I think it's phony. Our message is great. It was great in the general. It's what people of Arizona want. It solves our problems. So I just haven't been playing by the rules because A, I don't know the rules and B, every time I hear one of the rules, it's counterintuitive and it doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't. We know what the problems are in Arizona. The people on my team have lived here. A lot of the people on my team are regular people, non-politico types, who understand what's happening in Arizona. We're losing our uniqueness.

We're losing what makes us Arizona. We're seeing political elite try to push us into California. And we do not want to become a California 2.0. That's why we're doing so well. But, you know, you talked about illegal immigration. I did an interview with Dana or Dana Bash on CNN last week. I think it was the week before. Yeah, it was awesome. We used clips from it on our shows. It was very good. Go ahead. She said something like 1% of the people coming across are criminals. I said, well, after I stopped the interview, I wish I would have thought of it mid interview.

No, 100 percent. Right. They broke the law. Coming in are breaking the law. 100 percent are actively breaking the law. So, you know, and they get there. They get their stats. You know, the government is the one who's behind this problem. Joe Biden and his administration have caused the problem. There are many, probably hundreds of thousands who do have a rap sheet because they're the gotaways coming across. If you're a gotaway, you don't want to be processed by Border Patrol. You're not trying to file an asylum, a fraudulent asylum claim because you have some serious baggage when it comes to your rap sheet

behind you. And these are people we don't want coming into Arizona. We want no illegal immigration. We want all legal immigration. That's the way it should be. Yeah. I mean, what you said is axiomatically true. You're a hundred percent of people entering the country illegally are criminals by them. It's not a moral judgment. It's a statement of pure. You can argue with it all you want, but it makes you look like an idiot. I mean, it's not a mass moral condemnation. It's a statement of fact.

Your opponent, we're talking to Carrie Lake, GOP nominee for governor in Arizona. Your opponent, Katie Hobbs, you know, listen, I don't like Democrats. You don't have to comment on it. I just don't. I don't like their ideology. It's not personal. It's just their ideology is destructive. But I try to be an objective analyst of races around the country because it matters for the audience. We're in trouble here. We're not in trouble there. Your opponent is bar none the worst candidate I've seen in a competitive race running for governor. Inept, weak.

I mean it. I mean, again, I don't like her ideology. It's not personal. I've never met her. I don't care to meet her. I have never seen someone so inept at messaging. I mean, she's calling you an election denier. She's the Secretary of State.

She just screwed up a mass ballot mailing. I mean, she's running away from people in debates. I mean, literally running from people asking her questions. She is a horrifyingly bad candidate. I think your race is going to go go very well. Your feelings on how it looks with 18 days to go. You know, I if everything were fair and we had no problems in our election system, I think we'd win by a landslide. But we're drawing crowds that are massive.

People who've been in politics forever come to our events and say, we've never seen anything like this in Arizona. And I'm not being boastful, Dan. It's not about me. No, I've heard it. I've heard it from others. It's about the people are sick and tired of what they're seeing and realizing that the only way to solve these problems are to get involved and they're getting involved, which is great. She is a horrible candidate. It's always opposite day in the Democrat Party these days. And it's not even a Democrat Party anymore. You think of what many years ago, the Democrat Party at least claimed

they stood for helping the working class. They're totally opposed to that now. They don't care about the working man at all. They're globalists. They want open borders. They want higher taxes. They want to take those policies that have destroyed California and Oregon and Washington and Illinois and all of our big major cities. And they want to bring those to our states. And it will be the destruction and end of Arizona if a Katie Hobbs were to ever win. I don't think she will. In her history, the media won't tell you, but she's a twice-convicted racist who's cost the taxpayers nearly $3 million. She paid women of color in her office $30,000 less than the men doing the same job. You know, she's voted against border security,

whether it be the border wall, a virtual border wall, asking the federal government to reimburse us for the cost of the open border. And then she co-sponsors legislation to start sex ed in kindergarten. I'll tell you, I've known kindergarten teachers in my life. Not one of them got into being a teacher because they want to talk to five-year-olds about sex. That's why we're losing good teachers.

They're fed up. Yeah. We're talking to Carrie Lake, a fantastic candidate for governor in Arizona. The website, CarrieLake.com. That's K-A-R-R-I-Lake.com. You got a few bucks, send it her way. It's a race for governor in Arizona. Folks, it's a lot more than that. Please trust me on this one. Arizona is going to save America. I really feel that way. You know what's going to save America? Candidates like you. You don't have to ask for it. I do it for, I was a candidate

carrier. I know how uncomfortable it is, and I try to take that weight off my guests on the show, because it sucks. You're growing up, your mother told you two things. Don't brag about yourself and don't ask people for money. When you run for office, you have to violate those. So I do it for the, send her a few dollars. I'm telling you, this is the future of our movement right here.

People like you, people like Ron DeSantis, who take it back to them. I'll end with this because I want to let you get back in the campaign trail. You had a video out the other day. A couple of media goons showed up, tried to impugn your integrity, calling you an election denier. You don't deny elections. You have questions about elections, which every American citizen should. You completely destroyed them. We played the clip on the show. You brought receipts of multiple Democrats actually denying election results. How did that feel when that was over? And what did those morons do after you eviscerated them all in front

of all those cameras? They packed up their cameras, tucked their tail between their legs and walked away. I got to give my, one of my favorite people, we have such a great crew, Anthony, he's 20. He's a hardworking kid who loves Arizona, you know, homegrown kid. He came up with the idea. He said, if they ask you about being an election denier, you should give them this. And he showed me that when he printed out, I said, Anthony, you're genius. Now I call Anthony, my 20 year old assistant. I call him the most trusted journalist in America. We gave him work. Did we not get Carrie? We gave Anthony a shout out just an hour ago on the show because we thought that was so funny how he had this stuff just ready to roll. And the confused looks on their faces as you produce receipt after receipt of Democrat, Democrat spokespeople, Democrat candidates for governor denying election.

It was just glorious how you pulled that off. Loved it. I got to tell you, Dan, you know, I know you said you ran. It was an unsuccessful bid. It's never unsuccessful because I'm sure you pushed the ideas that are so important to this country. You just ran too early. We need you to run now. No, no, no.

My times. I have free, you know, Carrie, I, I, I, sir. And I think you're going to win. Knock on wood. I don't want to get out ahead of my skis. Everybody needs to vote and bring 10 people with them to vote for Carrie Lake. Yeah. Well, my incumbent opponent is in charge of the election, so that concerns me greatly.

It worries a lot of people. But I'll tell you, after I lost, and I hope this doesn't happen to you, and I don't think it will, but I met a really smart guy one time, and he said to me, you know, Dan, he said sometimes you ask God for an answer, and it's no. And that's OK. My time is up. I mean, my time now is to help people like you save this country. And this microphone means a lot to me. And we are very careful with our guests. We have a no squish rule on this show. And when I get behind someone for whatever it's worth to you, it matters. And I know

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you've had some some help battles and just thank you for using that microphone for good. We need more people like you. It's the best I can do. Carrie Lake, thank you so much. All right, folks. She is the real deal, man. We are very careful with our guests here, especially with 18 days to go in an election.

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Here's Dan Horowitz about the outrageous decision by the CDC to recommend COVID vaccines via their schedule for kids before letting them go to school. All right, I just told you yesterday we typically don't do two guests in a show unless something important happens and the second day in a row it's two guests. But you all love Dan Horowitz, so I want to welcome back him to the show. He's one of the few people I trust out there for actual COVID information. Dan, thanks for joining us last minute. We appreciate it. Hey, great to be with you.

Never an unimportant day these years. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. I thought it was going to be a slow news week and it exploded on me. So, please, we go to you, Dace, Kirpin, Berenson, whenever we need actual information about what's going on with COVID. Please explain to us what's going on with ACIP and the CDC vote today with this vaccine. And what does it mean for parents who then may be forced to give

this vaccine to their kids? Walk us through with the facts. Sure. So as of 3 p.m. yesterday, we were told by CDC's immunization division chief, Dr. Jose Romero, that there was no plan for CDC at this point to place the COVID shots on the childhood immunization schedule. But here we are. I mean, as I have the screen up here, it's about 13 minutes from now. They are going to be voting on exactly that. There was a question brought up when I tuned in after my own podcast. I didn't see the whole briefing today, but one briefer was this Dr. Woody was asked, how could the CDC add an unlicensed emergency use authorization shot to the schedule? And it was like, hey, we checked with the Office of General Counsel, and they said it's okay.

So, Dan, there's that. They're going to do it any minute. I'm assuming it's going to be unanimous, all 15 votes as it usually is because they're all bought out by the industries. And what this means is this if you're in a blue state um it it doesn't directly say that states must mandate it but typically they do um follow it and there's a lot of money tethered to these recommendations as you well know um but even the red states i mean as of now i've only seen joseph latipo the florida surgeon, speak out and say, hey, this is not happening here. I have not seen any of the other red states speak up, which is pretty disturbing.

But I think the broader motivation here, beyond how it's going to affect schoolchildren, is to absolve all the manufacturers permanently of any liability. all the manufacturers permanently of any liability, because once the PrEP Act goes away and the emergency goes away, if they ever do terminate it, then theoretically it could be subject to some degree of liability. So by putting it on the child immunization schedule, it's covered by the NCVIA of 1986, which essentially says any childhood scheduled vaccine is absolved from all liability. So that's an important point. That's where I need you and Phil and Steve, because this is where I only trust you guys. And I mean that you think this is a financial motivation because this kind of Dan, this crept up on us kind of out of nowhere. I mean, as you said, this wasn't on the agenda. You listen, nobody knows Democrats, this wasn't on the agenda.

Listen, nobody knows Democrats better than you. Gosh, you would want to talk political strategy, folks. Talk to Dan Horowitz. Democrats are typically tactically smarter than this, Dan. We're 19 days before an election. You're going to piss off Mama and Papa Bear 19 days before an election and say, oh, by the way, we're going to throw this thing on the schedule, which is going to lead a lot of states to basically de facto mandate them to jab this thing into your kid's arm. So you're suggesting there's a financial motive here and a lot of other people feel the same

because it doesn't seem to make any political sense. And we know politics is a large, large swath of this thing, unfortunately. So, I mean, look, you look at the youngest cohort of children that they authorized it for. Only a few percent opted for it. The new booster is only four or five percent. Even in Israel, it's extremely low. People are kind of done with it. So it's a little bit bizarre to all of a sudden make this extreme move. So I'm not saying you shouldn't be vigilant that they're going to mandate it but i do think the primary motivation is the liability issue yes it's financial but but then as you've

seen this entire era it's more than just money it's a way of life it's the fourth reich it's the transhumanism it's a so this is kind of like your you know in my religion you get a circumcision when when a baby is born this is your this is my religion, you get a circumcision when a baby is born. This is your christening. This is your circumcision. This is part of being one of the tribe. And it's a way of greasing the skids for about 15 other mRNAs coming down the pipeline. By the way, both human and animal.

It does go into cattle, and that's a whole other issue, the mRNA going into the food. They have to fully legitimize it and tether this new, very problematic technology with the more established vaccines that most people seem to be okay with so that, hey, it's covered by the same legality, the same immunity, and then they could keep churning this out. So it's not just these shots, but I think it's for the future as well. Yeah, I know. I agree with you. Your analysis there is spectacular and is commensurate with exactly what I've been saying for a while now, that this clearly we're not in the realm of science anymore. Tom Massey, you know, really fantastic Republican congressman,

has a tweet out with one of the CDC's own slides from the meeting on childhood vaccines, Dan. And it has COVID-associated hospitalizations by age group. Massey had to put an arrow on the chart to find the 5 to 17-year-olds because it's like an asymptote at the bottom. You can barely see it. And this wasn't even people there due to COVID. It was just people in the hospital who tested COVID positive. So, I mean, have we lost all ability to analyze risk?

This just sounds crazy. And they said all day that the benefit outweighs the risk. I mean, I could throw a million things at you. And as you well know, I pretty much write about this every week. But just a couple things to consider. CDC's own the safe data. So it turns out that all along, they actually were tracking it. And they had about 10.2 million people who signed that little card when they got the shot, that they would update them on what happened to them and there were over 70 million adverse events and it turns out that 7.7 percent had to see a doctor for an average of about three visits post vaccine from injury 7.7 percent had a clinical

level injury we now know from a saudi survey came out, depending on the type of shot, you know, AstraZeneca versus Pfizer or the dose of one or two, between 7% and 13%, from what I can see, had either chest pain, shortness of breath, or some form of arrhythmia, irregular heartbeat. That's heavy duty, aside from the 40%, 50, 60% that experience flu-like symptoms and melees and whatever. There's something really, really wrong there, and I think that Dyke was starting to break on some very disturbing news. I mean, I have to continuously up my estimate as to how many people died, likely died and were likely injured, and the long-term injuries and the cancers. This is all going down.

I mean this is not funny. And one other disturbing thing I need to share with your listeners, Public Health Scotland, you might have heard this last year. Their neonatal deaths suddenly doubled in September of last year, now again in March of this year. Now, that's a big problem because infant mortality goes down every successive year. And this has been that way for like 50 years in every Western country. Yeah, technology, right, right, medical developments. Yeah, every Western country. So to suddenly reverse that trend is really, really bizarre.

And, you know, they said they were going to investigate it. And they said it's not COVID last year, but then they didn't say what it was. And then it happens again this year. It breaches the upper bounds of their warning signs. Okay, do another investigation. Then they say, well, it's not the vaccines. So I figured, all right, well, how did they study? What did they do?

And the Scotland Herald reports on this. They had some public information request emails they got. It turns out they never studied the vaccination status of the mothers that lost their babies within 30 days or whatever. They never studied it. They just said it's not plausible that there's a link. They didn't study it. Why didn't they study it? It's not plausible that there's a link. They didn't study it. Why didn't they study it? And they openly say that, look, there's no public health difference because we're not going to stop the vaccines. That was a given.

We're not going to stop it. So we don't want people to lose confidence. And the outcomes of such analysis, while being uninformative for the public health decision-making had the potential to be used to harm vaccine confidence at a critical time. So we are now living in the fourth Reich where you could have something that potentially kills everyone. And they'll be like, we don't want to study it because it might kill everyone. And then people find out and they won't want to take it. Like, what did you just say? Yeah, this is, I mean mean this is all the indicia here

of of cult-like behavior um i mean actually i don't mean like how the left refers to us which is just silly and stupid we're all free thinkers here i mean these are actual indicators of clinical cult-like behavior like people who are willing to sacrifice the health and safety of themselves and their kids in order to align with some ideological golden calf god big government that told them what to do in order to signal some shibboleth like you said that they're part of some club of big government cultists i mean this is this is this is crazy dad dan i want a question i only got a few minutes left but what is the level of study they've done on these vaccines they want to force into our kids now? I had a Dace on the other day and Phil Kirpin, Phil Kirpin seemed to indicate that they studied it on eight mice.

That sounds like a pretty substantial sample size of subjects before you go nuclear with something. Well, look, and a lot of the mice had problems too, it turns out. And they all got COVID, by the way. The mice got COVID. A lot of people don't know that. But if you look in the FDA's own press release, they'll tell you that the safety was relied upon from the adult trial for a different version.

So they literally didn't do any safety analysis. They did immunobridge, and they look at antibody levels. But antibody levels, they admitted, they don't tell you anything. for 130 days, and then they're automatically going to have vaccines by 130 days, about four months, and no clinical trials. It was to groom people into a new normal that we don't do clinical trials anymore. into a new normal that we don't do clinical trials anymore now even when we did them at the beginning of the pandemic clearly they were falsified but you know at least there were some sort of um hurdle that they had to meet i mean this is crazy but you look at republicans and i'm not even seeing this on their top 10 i'm not seeing any of them call for investigations on injury on gain of function um and by the way the b on injury, on gain of function. And by the way, the Biden administration promised more gain of function. They're not even

promising to stop that. Dan, the worst part, they're not even hiding it. They just gave that grant to that Boston lab. They're not even hiding it. But I want to get one minute, 30 seconds left.

This is going to be if this passes today, I believe they're going to cause a political rebellion. I think there was going to be a red wave regardless. I know Republicans may not be the solution to all our problems. Sure. But Democrats are certainly the cause of them. I think Gretchen Whitmer and the lockdown vaccine pushers, they go down and go down hard. Kathy Hochul, if this passes today, your thoughts? I got a hard minute left. No, that is a good point. I mean, you know, somehow in Michigan, the governor seems to be popular, which is bizarre. But this brings the issue back to the bread and butter of what so many people in Michigan

suffered. I'm not going to lie to you, Dan. There's a part of me that is a little bit gleeful about this because my concern was they were doing this anyway. The biomedical state is not over with. They're finished the foundation, meaning now they're layering it up. It's not over with, but too many Republicans were ignoring the issue, and it needs to be dealt with. the issue and it needs to be dealt with so i think you're right i'm hoping that this will spawn some sort of a backlash where we say wait a minute we need to pass federal and state legislation banning these trial lists um approvals banning so just to be clear on what you're saying you're saying listen it doesn't sound great but if they were going to do it anyway do it now before

an election so we can vote your asses out and fix it. OK, I got your point. Good point. It's not a bad point. Dan Horowitz, where can people find you, by the way? I know they love to follow you. Well, I'm kicked off of everywhere except for Telegram at C-19 Truth Bombs, as in COVID-19 Truth Bombs. On Telegram.

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Message and data rates apply. Here's Kelly Shibaka of Alaska, a true conservative running against the rhino, I call her Democrat, Lisa Murkowski, who must be defeated, by the way. She's a strong conservative voice, Kelly Shibaka, and you need to hear from her. Take a listen. All right, we've had her on before. She was a huge hit. You all loved her. We're trying to put

candidates on the show. We're a little heavy on candidates over the next 20 days, obviously, because it's a critical election. It's the most important one of your lifetime until the next one. No, I mean it. It's that critical, and then the next one will be just as critical. Let's welcome back to the show. Kelly Chewbacca running in Alaska for the United States Senate, the only conservative on the ballot. How are you? Welcome

back. I'm fantastic. Thank you so much for having me. It's always great to be with you. Oh, gosh, come on. It's a pleasure. We've really followed your campaign and enjoyed it from the start. I'm so glad you're taking on Democrat Lisa Murkowski. I get it. She runs as a Republican. I know the whole routine. She's not. So, you know, I'm not even entertaining any of that stuff. The woman is to the left of Lenin. How does it look up there in that race in Alaska? Because there's a problem we have, Kelly. You need to win this seat. You're the only conservative in the race because she is really effectively a democrat with the things that matter especially judicial nominations and things like that so

what i could see happening kelly is sadly we could get to a 51 49 majority and then what would happen if lisa murkowski gets re-elected is are the entire nation's fate would be in the hand of a republican who's really a democrat that's why we need you to win wouldn't you agree you better say you're absolutely right that's functionally what happens now is oftentimes she just saves kamala the walk down pennsylvania avenue and gives the tie-breaking vote over to joe biden she does the bidding of joe biden about 80 percent of the time you're right she is function is functionally Democrat. That's why the Alaska Republican Party censured her, removed her from membership, said she is not allowed to run as a Republican. But she and her campaign team reengineered the election rules in Alaska and changed how we do elections so that you can call yourself whatever you want on our ballot.

They got rid of party primaries. And for that reason, Murkowski and I are actually in the final election together. Right after our primary, all the polls were saying the same thing. It's a 50-50 tie. But I'm excited to let you know that now polls are saying that I have a five to seven point lead over her. Even FiveThirtyEight is reporting that it looks like I'm going to win with a 53 percent. that's been pretty consistent the last couple of weeks. I know, it's exciting. So what I'm doing for that, yeah, I'm out here knocking thousands of doors, me, my husband,

and the kids. That's a grassroots movement in Alaska. 2,500 votes is 1%. This is the closest Senate race and the least expensive Senate race in the nation. If the audience wants to help out, I'm at Kelly for a k.com. We can buy a lot of ads for a little bit of money to help move the people in the middle to come over to our side to vote. And that's how we'll win.

Kelly for a k.com folks. I'm going to do this for Kelly. Cause I ran for office and I can tell you, and I think Kelly, you'd agree the single worst experience running for office. I enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun. I,

you know, I'm not going to tell you some kind of pity sob story. It was fun. I enjoy talking to people, but the worst part is asking people for money. It's horrible. You just, your mom and dad tell you growing up, don't brag about yourself and don't ask people for money. And that's what politics is. So I'm going to do her a favor, kellyforak.com. Folks, if you got a few bucks, five bucks, $1, $10, $20, whatever it may be, this is a really pivotal race. I'm not kidding. We could win a 51-50 majority, get Lisa Murkowski in there in Alaska, and she's effectively a Democrat.

It's useless. So consider this a seat that would swing in our direction. Kelly, one of the things that you'd be really important for the listeners who may say, well, well, you know, what do I care about in Alaska Senate seat, which my listeners are smart. They don't say that kind of stuff, but if they were, Alaska is floating on a sea of oil and gas. Now, Joe Biden and the administration has been terrible, terrible at allowing Alaska to develop its, its, its sea of natural resources. He gave a speech today saying he's doing everything in his power to make sure that states like yours, and you're laughing already, it's hilarious, isn't it?

He's actually stopping Alaska from helping the country out with our oil and gas. Joe Biden targeted Alaska for shutdown on day one. In fact, his administration has leveled 26 direct executive actions at Alaska to shut down our state. And it's been through these radical environmentalist nominees that Senator Murkowski has put in office, sometimes with tie-breaking votes. And so this affects all of America. Energy policy used to be a political thing. Now it's a personal thing. I didn't get political until last year. We're all feeling it. We have Alaskans who can't pay for gas and groceries, and that's most of us. So how are we living up here? We're living off of the cans and the game and the fish that we caught and killed. That's it. It's canned food and it's game and it's fish. That's how Alaskans are living. I don't think any state in the nation is suffering as much as our state is. So it's funny to laugh

at Joe Biden when he says stupid stuff like that. But in Alaska, we're crying and we're hurting. That's the reality of every Alaskan up here. And it's not just oil and gas. Let me tell you what our state does for the United States of America. We have enough oil and gas to fuel the United States of America. It's our critical minerals that can create the United States of America. We have enough oil and gas to fuel the United States of America. It's our critical minerals that can create the United States of America. It's our timber that builds the United States of America, our affordable housing that's being affected because we're not allowed to touch a single piece of wood up here. It's our fish that feeds the United States of America. Every fish on your menu, almost all of it comes from Alaska waters. And it's our national security position that can protect and defend the United States of America.

And it's obviously our tourism that inspires the United States of America. But we can't do any of that if we don't have leadership in the center of the United States in Washington, D.C., that won't be bought and bullied by the D.C. establishment insiders. And that's what's happening right now. Alaska is the foundation for this country. And that's why they're targeting us for shutdown, because you don't have America first leadership in the middle of the nation. Yeah, we're talking to Kelly Shibaka. She's running for Senate in the state of Alaska against a Republican who's really a Democrat. Lisa Murkowski. The website is Kelly for AK dot com.

Kelly, they instituted a ridiculous system of ranked choice voting in Alaska, which has everybody furious for our listeners out there. What's the I hate that. What's the best strategy to get you elected? I know this sounds like a dumb question because in a regular election, you pick Kelly Chewbacca or Lisa Murkowski. Right. But that's not what's happening with ranked choice voting. I know because I get the emails, there are still people confused as to how this works. What is the best way to ensure you,

the only conservative in this race, wins this pivotal, potentially swing Senate seat? The best scenario is that we get more than 50% of the vote on election night. And to do that, we want people to rank Kelly Chewbacca, bubble in the number one, then leave everything else blank and go to the next race.

So if you're listening and you're an Alaskan voter, that's the best and simplest scenario. Rank Kelly Chewbacca one and move on. Nothing else happens to your ballot. It doesn't disqualify your ballot. You don't need to listen to any of those fear messages that come from Camp Murkowski, where she can only have a fighting chance at keeping her 41 year Murkowski monarchy in place.

Your second place votes just vote Kelly Chewbacca number one and move on. Please do this, folks, because this is how we got stuck with a Democrat in the out and the at large seat. I mean, this is an abomination. You have this blood red state, Alaska. I mean, patriots, these the people, the Alaskans sweat liberty and freedom, man. They sweat that stuff. You guys, there is nothing more America than Alaska. My neighbor down the block.

It's her favorite vacation. Believe me, she's rich. She go wherever the heck she wants. She swears by Alaska. She loves it. And we have a Democrat sitting in the House seat. I know we're here talking about your race, but just quickly, do you think we're going to get that back with either Nick or Sarah? And please tell me you're optimistic because we can't have that.

I think Alaskans are smart enough to figure out the best way to get that seat back is to bubble in both Nick and Sarah. That way we don't split the vote. But I'll tell you, you're absolutely right. There is a full on effort up here. We've never seen anything like it, Dan. They've got millions and millions and millions of dollars of dark money flooding into this state from the D.C. establishment to try and keep Murkowski in her seat and try and keep that Democratowski in her seat and try and keep that Democrat in the House seat because they'll do what the establishment wants them to do against the interests of all the freedom-loving Alaskans up here. Well, I've got Mitch McConnell

dumping up to $9 million in Smear Ad Lai campaign up here against me so he can keep Murkowski in that seat because Murkowski will do whatever the establishment wants. Remember, McConnell and Murkowski sided with Joe Biden in passing through that radical gun control legislation and red flag laws. And that's completely against what Alaskans want. Even Democrats carry guns in Alaska. And these are the kind of things they're trying to push through against the will of the people in Alaska. So we need your help. Everyone who's listening at Kelly for AK dot com. Alaska is the foundation of America. These votes matter to you and we need your help. who's listening at kelly for ak.com alaska is the foundation of america these votes matter to you and we need your help a little bit goes a long way yeah it does and

folks we're talking to kelly shibaka the conservative candidate for the u.s senate in alaska remember uh only alaskans can vote for her but her vote matters to you it's this is there's only 100 seats and whatever she does makes a big difference. She could be the swing vote. So this is really important. Just explain to the audience why races are expensive or cheap. I ran in a really expensive area, Maryland, that covered basically three states, Delmarva, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia. And so the TV audience is expensive. In Alaska, which is not a really densely populated state, the TV markets, they're relatively cheap. So, you know, I don't like campaign strategy so much, but the audience, I think, finds it interesting.

You know, for maybe a couple thousand dollars, you can buy a boatload of radio and TV that could really swing a race. Whereas in Florida, with all these media markets and in Maryland, you can't do that. Yeah, that's absolutely right. The cost of difference in a campaign in Alaska is tremendous. Like I can buy statewide radio ads for $5,000, a statewide mailer for $35,000. Dan, I can see your mouth dropping wide open right now. Yeah, wow.

My block is $35,000 for a mailer. That's right. Sewell's point, just the island is $35,000. Exactly. A TV ad will cost me maybe $20,000 to $30,000. It is the way that the way that other people have said it is, quote, it's the cheapest Senate seat to buy. That's the what that's what makes us Alaskans gag. And we know dark money is coming up here to try and buy our Alaskan Senate seat. The way that I'm explaining it to audiences while I'm on this road trip throughout all of Alaska is I don't need a lot of your donations to fight back and get the truth out. We just need to put

out some targeted digital ads and targeted radio, some targeted mailers to the people who are still undecided. And the truth really goes well in Alaska. We're a small town, big state. We communicate very well with each other about what's happening. And we don't like dark money and we don't like lies. We talk straight. My dad always said, talk straight, kid. They might not like what you say, but they always know where you're standing. That's called integrity. And that's the way we roll up here. And that's all the truth I need to get out. So a little bit of money goes a long way in Alaska. This is the best return on investment if you're looking to make a difference in this campaign year. And unlike Joe Biden, Jim, I believe Kelly's dad actually told her that.

My pop said he just makes it up, whatever the day is. Kelly, last question. We're talking to Kelly Chewbacca, conservative candidate for Senate in Alaska. Kelly for AK.com, if you'd like to send some money her way. The border's an enormous crisis. You know, I get it. You're up in Alaska, but you will potentially be a United States senator. Your vote is going to matter a whole hell of a lot. We have got to seal this border. The drug crisis coming across this border is affecting you in Alaska dramatically.

Yeah, absolutely is. And Alaskans care very much about the border. Remember, we have a very large border with Canada. So border policy is a huge policy for Alaskans. And we're very concerned about the fact that an open border is not a border. And our Senator Murkowski is extremely complicit in all of the votes that have allowed for chain migration and this open border and even allowing illegal immigrants who come across the border and commit multiple crimes against innocent U.S. civilians to stay here and not have to be deported. And so Alaskans are furious about this. We can't be involved in all of these other issues across the country and in other foreign affairs when we have this crisis at the border. issues across the country and in other foreign affairs, when we have this crisis at the border,

one of the ways that Alaska Native leaders said it to me is, it's very disturbing to see illegal immigrants coming across the border being treated better than our first peoples here in Alaska, our first nations, Alaska Natives out in rural Alaska being treated. Those are some of the concerns being spoken up here in Alaska. And I think those should be concerns across the nation. Oh, it's so true, Kelly. Americans are being treated worse. I'm sorry, I got to go, but you're so right. I mean, the mayor of New York City, liberal mayor of New York City, he's got this Xboxes, they get their laundry done,

cable TV for illegal immigrants, and then you got American citizens in Alaska who built this country getting screwed over, sitting out in the cold. That's total crap. And I'm glad you brought that up. The website is Kelly for AK.com. One of the best candidates I've seen come along in a long time for the U.S. Senate, Kelly Chewbacca.

Good luck in the race. If you need to come back, just please do let us know the day. I have to, I must get you elected. I am committed to this. It is so important to me. You got it, Kelly. Good luck. We have to, I must get you elected. I am committed to this. It is so important to me. You got it, Kelly. Good luck.

We'll see you soon. Bye-bye. You got it, folks. Please, that race is hugely important. Murkowski is a disaster. I have been warning you about her and Joe Manchin for years. I promise you, she is a mess. We got to get Kelly in there.

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