The Dan Bongino Show - The Deep State Purge Intensifies (Ep. 2439)

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. All right, I'm going to do this crazy thing today at the start of the show. By crazy, I mean, I'm crazy. I am going to give you both sides of an argument. I say crazy because unfortunately some on the other side of the partisan aisle and some on our side too don't ever want to do this. I'm gonna give you both sides of an argument. The one exploding right now on X between Republican congressman Tom

Massey, President Trump, and the MAGA audience. I'm gonna give you both sides of the argument. I'm gonna let you formulate your own opinion but I'm gonna give you an honest take also on what I believe because I owe you an opinion too because at least for the next four days this is an opinion show. Today's show is about to be by Beam. Go to shopbeam.com slash Bon Gino. Use code BONGINO for 47% off your order. This is a big deal. It has exploded on Twitter. It's about the CR continuing resolution and I feel an obligation. I actually threw this in last minute, to give you guys the facts so that you know what's going on. Because everybody's throwing around the term, that guy's a hypocrite, that guy's a fraud,

that guy's a... We'll see. You guys can form your own opinions. By the way, thank you for your patience this week as we, this is four more shows left and every one matters to me so I really, really appreciate your patience dealing with me and the transition, the new studio and everything. Thank you so much. Hey, they want you to believe inflation is just an accident but is it every time inflation spikes your savings could shrink, your paycheck buys less, and just about everything from groceries to gas gets more expensive.

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he's correct and here's why. They have this thing called the continuing resolution basically the reconciliation bill that Donald Trump is gonna be President Trump and the Republican Congress plans on using to do all kinds of wonderful things. Secure the border, reinforce our military, cut taxes, all of that stuff. That is not what this is.

That reconciliation bill, the process has just begun. It's not even close to done. I'll get to that in a second because it's gonna matter. This continuing resolution, which would continue government spending effectively at its current levels, maybe a little more, is yes, everybody agrees is not what we want. Folks, it does very little to cut government spending. Everybody understands that. Nobody's lied about it. Everybody's saying this is not great. So you may be saying to yourself, okay, well, Massey's right. Massey's saying, we have to stop this right now.

We are not spending this amount of money on voting against it. The problem is, while that is a nice theory and a correct one that we should slow down government spending dramatically before we go bankrupt, eventually you need a plan to enact it. It's like saying, you know what, listen, I want to rush for 200 yards in this football game on Sunday and you're the running back. That's a great plan and a laudable goal.

And everybody thinks that's fantastic and they agree with it. The problem is you've got a broken ankle and you can't play. You can think that all you want, but it's not a realistic plan. So the problem I have with Massey's not his, not his... I don't have a problem with his end goal. Let's cut government spending at all. He's correct. The problem are the, the problem is the mechanics of what he's trying to do requires actual oil and gears, and he doesn't have them. He doesn't have the votes.

You need a majority of the House of Representatives. He's by himself on the Republican side. He doesn't have the votes. In other words, there are Republicans out there who unfortunately have said we're kicking this can down the road until we get to reconciliation. There's no votes. So you may say, well, Dan, well, at least we should take a stand. Okay, let me walk you through what happens then. We quote, take a stand on this, on the CR, which is a bad bill. I get it.

You don't need to tell me anywhere, comment. I agree. There's no need to remind me that the levels of government spending are catastrophic. I did about, I don't know, a 20 minute segment yesterday on my radio show, How We Are Going De facto Bankrupt. You are correct. The problem is I live in the world as it is,

not in the world as it should be. I said the same thing with the ouster of McCarthy. We need a plan. We need a plan. For you to oust him without a plan made no sense. And then people beat me up and then realized later on I was right. You need a plan. For you to oust him without a plan made no sense. And then people beat me up and then realized later on I was right. You need a plan. The problem with this plan is let's say every Republican right now, every Republican were to say we are against this thing. There's too much government spending. Yes, unity. That's great. Awesome. They're against it

and they get a different bill. We against it and they get a different bill We have the numbers to get a different bill that dramatically cut spending great move it to the Senate. Then what happens? Why is the bill gonna go down in the Senate because we don't have enough votes to overcome a filibuster So Dan what you're saying is the Democrats still have power to scuttle this thing. Yes Is the Democrats still have power to scuttle this thing? Yes. So if Massey scuttles this thing and say him and a couple other Republicans say no, the Democrats are going to go to Speaker Johnson and Senator Thune and say, hey, we'll give you some votes but we want this. That's exactly what's going to happen.

I'm not telling you it's fun, it's cool, it's awesome. I'm telling you it sucks. You are correct. Unfortunately, the world sucks sometimes. Things about the world and politics suck. You've got to deal with the suck and find a way to overcome the suck. So Dan, how do we overcome the suck? I'm glad you asked. Guy, am I driving people crazy with this? No, I'm not that is the wrong answer producer ghee folks in the chat Do you want me to leave this here? Is this boring? Yes or no, but Gino There is a plan

the way to get around Democrat Obstacles is the reconciliation bill because if they use the reconciliation bill, which is not this bill, okay, thank you. Gee is wrong again. Gee is wrong again. Yes Sorry, I just wanted it on the record in the studio for the last time that producer Guy is wrong. It's a long walk into the studio. I just burned calories. Because there is a path to fixing this thing. The reconciliation bill uses a process called reconciliation.

So if we can just get there and be patient and deal with a few more months of this crap bill with government spending, we don't need to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. All we need is a majority using reconciliation, where we can actually implement the Doge cuts. Guys, although Guy's wrong again, it's on the record. The studio's great. In the old studio, we couldn't have done that because it's so tight in there, we couldn't

move around. Yes, I did. I know. I do have to say on the record, I blamed Guy for the fungus last week. I had a head cold and I blamed him. It was not him. It turned out to be allergies like bad. I know because I got my blood work back. So apologies to producer Guy on a good note. It was not him who passed me whatever deadly virus I thought I had. I did not. But he's definitely wrong on this one. And that's

why I don't agree. And I've defended Congressman Massey in the past. You just go back and watch the shows. I don't get emotional about these things. He has been amazing on the January 6th pipe bomber case. Incredible. He is wrong here. He's just, I'm sorry, he's wrong. He doesn't have a tactical plan to cut spending.

I just gave it to you. Get rid of this CR, deal with it for three more months move on to reconciliation And fight the fight there where you actually have the numbers does that make sense anybody disagree me if you think? That I'm a toolbox and a jerk right now, and you're like yeah, that's just crazy. Tell me in a chat I'm open all I'm asking you is if you believe that Tell me what your plan is Tell me what your plan is to get over the Senate filibuster. If you have it I'd love to hear it. Everybody you know everybody can talk a

big game the problem is you have to have a plan to implement it on the field. All right moving on because I got a lot more to get to. He's like you haven't even got to the show yet. I know. President Trump does have a plan. He has laid out a 100-day agenda, which we're not finished with yet, that has been incredibly transformative. And I could make a strong case to you that at least in my lifetime following politics, I'm 50, been following politics 35 years,

maybe a little less than about 15, 16 years old, I've never seen anything like this, folks. He said what he was going to do. We are going to stop illegal immigration at the border. Oh my gosh, look, it stopped. I mean, we could show you the numbers. I think we had a segment on this, so we do. We have a segment on this later in the show. The numbers are ridiculous. They've fallen off the face of the earth. He said, I am going to do X and X happened. He said, I am going to do X and X happened. He said I am going to do X on the economy. I'm going to bring back and onshore businesses into

the United States. He's held a press conference once a week. Apple, Taiwan semiconductors, all bringing back business into the United States. I'm just telling you, you may not like it. Maybe that's not your thing. Maybe you want businesses offshore. He said he was gonna do it and he did it. He has a plan. He said, I am going to disrupt and stop deep state weaponization of government. Look who he's appointed. I'm keeping myself out of it. The few more days I have with you. Look who he's appointed. One of the people he appointed isn't even a Republican. Or was it?

Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard was not a Republican. She ran for president as a Democrat. President Trump was so open to change, he said, I'm going to appoint people outside of my partisan sphere, someone else, because I believe this person is a change agent. And look what happened. Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard on her ex-op or ex-profile per

president United States directive I've revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Tony Blinken Jake Sullivan Lisa Monaco Mark Zayde Norm Eisen Letitia James Alvin Bra Andy Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the infamous Hunter Biden disinformation letter. What do all of those people have in common? Let's go to the chat. Who gets it first? What do all of those people have in common? Go Tulsi, says John DeSalvo. Yeah, you're darn right, John. What do they all have in common? Yes, they've all weaponized the government and been involved in using their positions for partisan intent.

That is exactly correct. Donald Trump has said, I am going to stop that, and he's doing it right now. You don't have to agree with it. This is kind of my issue. And I'll say again, to kind of just spill it back to Massey, in case you think this is anyway personal. I'm telling you, I've defended him before. That's kind of my issue. And I'll say again to kind of just spill it back to Massey in case you think this is any way personal. I'm telling you, I've defended him before and if he turns out to be a plus one on other

issues, terrific. I'm just telling you with this specific issue, this is a minus one. This is not for me. I want a plan. It is not emotional. It's passionate but not emotional. Give me the plan. Donald Trump said, I'm running on this MAGA plan the MAGA plan is happening all I'm asking for fair enough is Okay, you have an alternate vision. What is your plan? Oh, I don't have one. Okay. Well, that's not a plan

By the way, he was Joe Biden in a flashback here you talk about weaponizing intelligence for those people that are going to attack. Here was President Biden suggesting that the guy who was duly elected president, President Donald Trump, multiple times, that he shouldn't get intel briefings. So please spare us the lectures on weaponizing government. We're trying to de-weaponize government. De-weaponize government. It's unfortunate you don't see it the same way. Check this out. Should former President Trump still receive intelligence briefings?

I think not. Why not? Because of his radical behavior unrelated to the insurrection. I mean, you've called him an existential threat. You've called him dangerous. You've called him reckless. Yeah, I have. And I believe it. What's your worst fear if he continues to get these intelligence briefings? I'd rather not speculate out loud.

I just think that there is no need for him to have that intelligence briefing. What value is giving him an intelligence briefing? What impact does he have at him to have that intelligence briefing. What value is giving him an intelligence briefing? What impact does he have at all other than the fact he might slip and say something? He might slip and say something? Slip and say something? This is from the king of slipping and saying something. Excuse me.

Not the fungus, definitely, just a note. Not Guy's fault. He- He's one of the talkbacks for it, by the way. Oh, I know, thank you. You're gonna be able to talk back. Guy said I just fake cough, but Guy wants me to get used to using that.

It's only four more days, brother. It's only four more days. So four more, I'm not sure I'm gonna get used to this cough button in four days. If we were here longer than four days, brother. It's only four more days. So four more. I'm not sure I'm going to get used to this cough button in four days. If we were here longer than four days, a couple of weeks, I would start practicing with the talk button. Can you guys hear that? If I.

Pretty good. They can't hear it. All right. Good. That's pretty cool. But yeah, it's not Gee's fault. Guys, I saw someone in the chat. Show me the plan.

Tulsi Gabbard, DNI Tulsi Gabbard, and President Trump had a plan. If you were in any way involved in using your position for partisan intent and not for your, to defend the oath you swore to, to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, the state of New York for the local officials, if you were involved in that, I'm sorry.

You do not get a security clearance for that kind of information. The fact that you can't handle that on the left is your problem. There are people out there, people out there who can, and don't plan on using their offices for partisan intent to go after their political enemies. All right, we'll take a quick break and we'll get back to this. The Democrat messaging folks, the sea legs are still there. They just can't seem to get it together. I'm gonna show you this clip from Jon Stewart.

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And the problem with the Democrats, and I'm not here to give them any kind of political advice, obviously, I mean, this is a Republican conservative MAGA show. This is not a Democrat advice show. However, this is good for us because we still have a hundred days to take advantage of this. The talking points clearly went out on the men and women's sports issue and the talking points are ridiculous. They're ridiculous because the Democrats have made the case, follow me here, this is important. If I lose anyone in the chat, stop me. The Democrats have tried to make the case forever that the

federal government should have a heavy footprint, a multi-billion dollar footprint in education, that it should be collectively controlled out of Washington DC. Of course the MAGA crowd, conservatives and republicans for decades have been saying education is a local issue, it is not the federal government's business if I want a home school charter, school choice, whatever it may be. The talking points now went out about the men and women's sports thing. And I want you to notice how now the Democrats have now completely flipped the script and done a 180 and are now suggesting that on the men and women's sports issue that this is actually a local issue.

Sounds like what we've been talking about as conservatives for a long time. Check this out. For me, it's like, let the local community figure this out, right? In Michigan we have a process in place where if someone who's born a boy wants to play in women's sports you have to get a waiver. We've had it happen two times. We want to make sure that these decisions are made by the communities, by the communities, by the schools and and others that are the ones closest to us and then understand what we know is that we're talking about a handful of people,

a handful of athletes. Every young person, and I want those sports to be fair, I want those sports to be safe, and I have confidence that local schools and local communities can make those decisions without the federal government making them for them. Who said it? May not be a...

Lori Delk. May not be a Democrat advice show, but they could learn a thing or two from it. Yeah, they could. And by the way, this goes for us too. Because we need to leverage our strengths and weaknesses, mitigate our threats, and take advantage of opportunities. Basic business SWOT analysis. We have an opportunity here. What's the opportunity? The opportunity is to learn from Democrat missteps.

This is the kind of thing, this is a loser issue. Oh, you see, does anyone see where I'm going with this, by the way? What? Anybody see where, a loser issue right now is a government shutdown while we build the reconciliation bill. It's a loser issue.

It just is. By the way, the government doesn't even shut down. I hate to use their lingo. It's not a, the government doesn't really shut down. Essential government services will continue. That's kind of Democrat lingo forever. I'm just telling you, we're trying to build momentum for what Donald Trump calls one big, beautiful bill.

We already have some of the votes. The process has already started. I don't see, this is an 80-20 issue. If you were to ask people and lay out the facts like I did in the beginning of the show, you see how I'm tying these two stories together? It's important you understand this. Learn from what they're doing. They are dying on this hill of men and women's sports, and they're now so off message, they're

making a case for local decisions in education. We've been making for years. This is one of those things now we're gonna what make their argument on the left we have an opportunity to really cut government here for the first time the unnecessary anchor of government hanging around our neck we have a unique opportunity it's reconciliation process to do it it is going to take a couple of months to get it together Let's not blow up the opportunity by showing the public that we're in total disarray. It just doesn't make sense. I I'm telling you we can learn from this. I promise you this is not some

Stretch talking point. I'm throwing in the show. We got a ton of stuff. Look got a ton of stuff to get to It's an 80-20 issue. Nobody wants to see this right now. It makes no sense to die on the hill. This is the Jon Stewart clip I was talking about, by the way, you want to talk about getting your messaging off. I mean, completely off.

Here is Jon Stewart, who was, again, I don't get emotional, but passionate, I say passionate on it. He was a plus one on the COVID thing, okay? He's a minus one in just about everything else. Here's Jon Stewart about the United States media, talking about how, man, wouldn't it be crazy if we had a media that lied all the time?

What? Do you not see what's going on? Take a look at this. So you're saying if you have a media machine that purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction and get themselves power that that is the hallmark of an authoritarian system, not a democratic system. Absolutely. Well if we were ever to get something like that in the United States, we would be horrified, furious,

to know that there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality, to manipulate facts, to maintain power. It would, if I may, and I don't mean, I'm not trying to slam Hungary it would never happen in the United States who's just sorry I love looking through the chat and sometimes you guys are so fussy someone said John John Stewart it's like he took some irony pills you think no

not iron pills I'm sure they're good for your hemoglobin counts every irony pill does this guy hear what he's saying it'd be really incredible if we had a You think? No, not iron pills. I'm sure they're good for your hemoglobin counts. Irony pills. Does this guy hear what he's saying? It'd be really incredible if we had a coordinated messaging machine in the United States lying to people. That'd be really terrible. Thank god we don't have that here. Dude, what?

You just see what we just showed you? You see why the show flows the way it does? How the Democrats have a coordinated messaging machine, and now you can expect the media on men and women's sports to pick up the exact same talking point, which is what? Folks in the chat. Oh, this is a local issue. I thought education wasn't a local issue. No, it is now. They just can't get their sea legs under them. Learn a lesson from this. Take what you can take like Play-Doh and mold it into your own thing. Washington Free Beacon, here. You want to burn a lot of time on this leftist? Go right ahead. Biden EPA officials spent time de-gendering bathrooms and policing

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However, because I've invested my own money in a lot of these entities, I've been kind of learning about it over the years and how DDoS attacks work, how intermediaries can block them. This was serious because X has some really, really good security measures in place. So for them to be able to hit on this type of scale, what I'm getting at is that people who are hitting him really, really were coordinating this. This wasn't some kid in the basement somewhere.

Here's Elon on where he thinks these IP addresses connected to the cyber attack on X yesterday originated from. Check this out. There was a cyber attack on X today which shut it down and may have been foreign sourced. It's a big story. You want to give us a moment on that? Well we don't we're not sure exactly what happened but there was a massive cyber attack to try to bring down the X system with IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area. Well, there you go. So folks, these things are not easy to do. What you basically do is these different IP addresses, which are like the DNA of a unique

computer address, what they do is they all coordinate a hit which are like the DNA of a unique computer address. What they do is they all coordinate ahead at the same time on a website, meaning to overload the servers. So those things have to be blocked. It takes a really, really long time to do. These are not the kind of thing, well, I mean, if you're really sophisticated with a lot of money, you could run out of a basement, but you're going to need assets. Someone has targeted Elon, and like I said, I know he's got top flight security, but this is getting serious. I mean, they haven't listed on a thing as Elon Derangement Syndrome, and I can't disagree.

Here Larry Kudlow on the show lists the attacks going on against Elon's businesses right now. It's not just X, but it's elsewhere. And I'm gonna bring up something after this about this whole myth out there that every single person involved in government is there for money. Really? After this? Are you sure? Check this out. They're setting fire to various Tesla charging stations near Boston. Shots were fired at a Tesla dealership in Oregon, various nonviolent...

Shots fired, not a metaphor. Shots fired, yes. Downtown New York, marching against the Tesla showroom. Your stock is way down. You've been criticized left and right. But look on the right side. I mean, why are you doing this? Always look on the bright side of life.

Yes. I'm an optimist. Listen, gents, ladies out there in the Bon Gino Army, you know I love you guys. I'm not going to spin your wheels. There are a lot of people in government, a lot. I don't know a percentage. I'm not even going to dare throw one out, who were there for one reason. They are there, maybe they couldn't find something in the private sector, they figure out that they can use their position to gain influence, they'll use that influence later to make money. It is the least surprising story in human history that people

leverage power to make money. Lord Acton was correct. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely. However, there are people, and a lot, I'll just name a few right now, who I can tell you from personal experience, if you think they're working in government to make money, then I'm sorry, but I really can't help you. You're just making that up. You have zero evidence that's true.

Elon Musk, last time I checked, you guys don't always know his net worth worth can you look that up is it I Think it's something like 200 to 400 billion depending on the stock price of of Tesla on any given day. What is it? What's his network? What does it say? We're looking this up in live time here. I love that we can throw this stuff on the screen This is really cool. What is it? about 200 billion 300 342 billion What is it about 200 billion? 300 and 42 billion three hundred and forty two point four billion. That's like a rounding error point four

Three guys four hundred million rounding error. I mean, I wish you could have that right You know what? I'll take a tenth of the rounding error. That's his way. Do you really believe that this guy? Left this this incredible life he has tech genius Rocket guy all of this stuff. He left this to go make money in the government because he needs contacts Elan's just the high profile case. I'll give you a few more You know Sean Duffy Sean Sean Duffy, the now Secretary of Transportation. Yes, obviously Evita works here, but I don't say this because of any personal relationship with her or her dad.

Sean Duffy was doing great. Had a nice show on Fox. People loved it. Family was doing great. They got a lovely house up in the northeast. They go to work every day. Big family. Do you have any idea what they had to sacrifice to take the job as the Secretary of Transportation? It was bad. He's not there for contacts or money or connections. Here's another one. Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary.

Howard Lutnick, very wealthy guy. You think he left his job over there to go make a $200,000 a year in government at Kenner Fitzgerald? What about Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary? Guys, I heard anything about him. He mentioned another guy. I don't know anything about him. I'm just telling you all, it is always, always remain an air on the side of skeptical of people with power. Always. Me included. Air on the side of skeptical and that way you'll never be disappointed. But don't become so skeptical that you lose your faith that there's anything out there can be changed or fixed at any time

I'm not trying to preach. I'm not your preacher. We had Father Marty here this morning blessing the studio. We appreciate that I'm not a preacher. I love Jesus very much, but I'm not very good at preaching other people because I fall short sometimes myself But when you lose faith that you know change is possible at all, you know you lose hope You ever read the book by Viktor Frankl man's search for meaning it's his story of the concentration camps in Nazi Germany and how so many people's You know that he could tell when they were about to die not talking about the ones that were killed Obviously, they're dead. But some were kept alive and were used for basically labor.

And he said he could tell every single time when someone was about to give up in what they call run into the wire, because the fence was electrified. So if you wanted to kill yourself, you'd run into the wire. And he said he could tell right away. They just gave up hope. They just gave up hope.

And the whole premise of the book, which was I've talked about it often, which is a generational bestseller, Man's Search for Meaning, is that meaning very simply, and he's not trying to be a poet in a book, he says it many times, is just hope that you can fix something and that tomorrow you'll get back to some sense of joy and freedom. And that'll keep you alive. Don't lose faith, folks. There are people out there, I promise, who are in this for the right reasons. While we're on the topic of Elon, here's the reason that the left is really hyped up the attacks against him. I mean attacks in the, again, not in the metaphoric sense, there were actual attacks against his businesses and I'm

sure there were threats coming in too too, to him as well. Here's Elon on the GAO fraud numbers. Folks, the Democrats do not want you to know how much is going on behind the scenes to take your tax money and shuttle it off to these kind of black box operations that are partisan, the intent is partisan. It's not to help the American people. That's why they're freaking out. Check this out.

What motivates you to do this? Was the offer good? It's tough to help the American people. That's why they're freaking out. Check this out. What motivates you to do this? Was the offer good? It's tough sledding. Yeah, it is tough sledding. But I think we're doing the right thing here. The, you know, there's been a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. You know, when you're part of the government,

you saw a lot of that. And it's, and there's been, you know, if you look at the Inspector General reports and the Government Accountability Office, there have been many audits that have pointed out that there's a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the government. In fact, there was a report issued by the GAO, the Government Accountability Office, last year. So during the Biden administration, which estimated the federal government fraud to be half a trillion dollars.

So just to be clear, that's not a Trump administration thing, that's a Biden administration thing. So what we're trying to do is get that number down to a much smaller figure, save money for the American taxpayer, stop money being spent on things that I think very few taxpayers would agree makes sense. Folks, here's why they're, you can come up there,

yeah, don't worry about it. Wanna say hello? Jasmine's like, Jasmine, you wanna say hello? She says, no, definitely not. She did a little zip around about the thing, you didn't see her, right? She's like a ninja creeping in here. You have skills, Jasmine.

How did you fit between the camera and the monitor there? It was unbelievable. She did this little thing. She was like plastic man creeping through there. Very good, I was impressed right there. A little jujitsu you did there. Here's what's going on here. Hey, Justin, can you pump up to Trump on Bar de Romo

about Social Security? I'm gonna tie these together. It wasn't the end. I was going to play this later in the show, but I'm going to show you what's going on. Here's the reason, as I said to you over the last two weeks talking about the Doge and why the Democrats are freaking out over Elon, that they will defend, maybe not openly and say, hey, we defend fraud, but they don't want you to find out about the fraud in government. Because folks, when you find out how much money has been sent to government and sent

out to unauthorized recipients, dead people, people not entitled to government disability, you are going to be stunned. And now, let me put this out to the chat. Let's say Elon, in the end, when the Doge work is done, say he finds his trillion dollar number. Forget it. Say he finds his trillion dollar number. Forget it. Say he finds half, 500 billion. Can you imagine what $500 billion in fraud looks like? Do you have any idea what $500 billion in fraud looks like? What's the first question you're asking in the chat?

Who the hell's policing this stuff? Exactly. And then people start to say to themselves, wait, you're telling me that this $5 to $7 trillion government enterprise we're running right now, more when you factor in our long-term entitlement obligations, that there's almost no mechanism to stop rampant amounts of fraud that may be a tenth or even more of the federal budget every year, then you start to question everything. That's why Donald Trump is being very tactical about this. Now listen, we've obviously had President Trump and I, we're gonna have to eventually engage in a pretty massive reform of entitlement programs. They're just designed

poorly and the people who paid into them deserve their money back. They paid into them. And the way it's designed now is terrible. But President Trump is being tactical about this. Here's President Trump on Maria Bartiromo's show talking about Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare. He knows this. He knows if he can show the American voter first that these programs are not being policed very well at all,

the systems are antiquated, and the government is not He knows if he can show the American voter first that these programs are not being policed very well at all The systems are antiquated that maybe if we can get the fraud out and say look we got some of your money back That then they'll build the initiative for a long-term reform that'll stabilize these programs. It's actually a very smart approach check this out I'm not going to touch Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. No, we're going to get fraud out of there. You know, you see where I talk about it all the time, where you have people 250 years old and all, you know, tremendous fraud. But that has nothing to do with that.

We're going to get the fraud out. And everybody wants us to get the fraud out. And therefore, you'll make it better. But we're going to have tremendous growth. When you look at all of the car companies that are now coming into the United States, and they've been announcing, like on a daily basis, they're gonna build their plants and they're gonna create tremendous numbers of jobs

and so many other things. You see what he's doing? All right, as I say often, I'm not here to tell you everything is the chess checkers analogy, I'm not here to tell you everything is the chest checkers analogy. I'm not. Sometimes stuff gets done and it doesn't go well and you backtrack and you say, hey, we screwed up.

I'm reasonably confident this is. He understands that, okay, going back to the beginning of the show, because everything has a reason in the show, he understands that you can have all the ideas you want. We need to reform social security. I've said it a thousand times. Great idea, Dan. What am I gonna say next? What's the plan?

The public's desire to reform these programs right now, candidly speaking, is not there. It isn't. I can tell every time I mention Social Security and your money being stolen, I get angry letters from MAGA supporters who are angry at me for recognizing the obvious. Donald Trump understands, President Trump gets, that the public is not there right now. And he's doing this deliberately. He figures that we can fix this thing if we can first point out and take the low-hanging fruit.

And then maybe people will be more open to saying, okay, I trusted you to fix the the waste in there, fraud and abuse. You did, now let's take the next step and stabilize these programs that some people rely on, a lot of people, let's stabilize them using a more efficient and effective economic model. It's pretty smart. Why'd you zip out to the shot there? You just like playing with the cameras? Justin's just like, because I felt like it, and I'm the producer of the show, I'll do what I want. It's pretty shot, man, it's pretty shot. You just like playing with the cameras? Justin's just like, because

I felt like it and I'm the producer of the show. It's pretty shot man, it's pretty shot. You like that? It is. Do that again. I like that. Is that, do I have a good side? I don't right? They're both bad. Yeah, I think I'm getting to that point in my life where there is no good side anymore. I've run out of good sides. I'm enjoying though the new, what do we have three angles? There's another one too right there. Do I have to shave in the next job? I don't think so right? I'm kidding. I think we're gonna keep this look. All right speaking of, I know I did, I shaved this morning. That's my shoulder. Okay yes that's my face.

Thank you. Wow that's my face, thank you. Wow, that's an extreme close-up. I don't know if I'm comfortable with that. So you go, of course, what does he do? He goes in closer. These guys. This crew. Look at this, even Jasmine's in there, like,

what is wrong with this show? Nothing's wrong with the show. Oh, that's not me! That's not me! That's Frank, that's not me! That's not me. That's Frank. That's not me. Frank's going to be very busy over the next few years. That's not me.

Anita, I think you're taking the Frank head there, right? Anita, you going to be here on Friday? I think you are, right? Speak, come and do it. I'll show you your Burger King thing. I have one. I kept it. You gave me two.

I kept the other one over in the other house. Back to the show, because on the show sometimes I get easily distracted because I have so much to talk about. Listen, this is not a self praise moment, maybe it is. I told you at the time Senator J.D. Vance from the amazing state of Ohio was going to be an incredible vice president.

Why? Well, listen, it wasn't hard. I'm not going to tell you I had some Stygian witches like give me the eye. It was just easy. When you watched him debate, who was he running against? Tim Ryan at the time? I thought man this guy's special. This guy is absolutely fantastic. I said he's gonna be incredible. I'm gonna have a chat blowing up right there. Here is vice president Vance who never seems to get caught off guard by a question or anything else because he's smart The guy's like an encyclopedia of information here. He is He's just nuking a heckler interrupts his speech at the National League of Cities ladies and gentlemen This is the way it's done. Check this out. You go across the world and you see a very consistent

relationship between a massive increase in immigration and a massive increase in housing prices. And we have to be honest about that. Well, I see one of our nice representatives out here wants to actually, I guess, continue to flood the country with illegal immigrants, making your communities and citizens unaffordable. But ma'am, with all respect, one of the reasons why we're doing what we're doing is because we want to make it more affordable for Americans to live. That is one of the reasons why we're doing what we're doing is because we want to make it more affordable for Americans to live. That is one of the reasons why we're doing what we're doing. He never gets caught. Did you notice that? He never gets caught. Have you guys worked in mid or mid-size, big-size corporation? I'm sure many of

you have in the chat right there. I'm looking at the chat right there on the screen. You ever have that one guy who he's just in the room he just commands attention and presence and he has that he has that that the power that you can't really put it's like the the genesee qua it's typically because he just has a feel he has such a comfortability level with the business and the you know and just as a general knowledge level. I guess I'm trying to say he has an answer for everything. But I don't mean that in a snarky kind of toolbox way.

He has an answer for everything because he just does a lot of homework. That's JD Vance, the vice president. He's been in so many different spaces between the Marine Corps, tech investing, politics, the United States Senate, and he does his homework that he just never gets caught. And I saw that early on.

If you go back and watch his debates against Congressman Tim Ryan, you'll see what I'm talking about. The writing was on the wall. It didn't take some political genius to see it. And because of this team of President Trump and Vice President Vance, again, going back to the beginning of the show we have a plan it's nice to talk about stuff folks but you've got to do someone asked me the other day a friend

of mine you know what you all know he is you know he said what why are you doing this and I said would I tell everyone? Because it's the same answer, because it's the only answer. You can't tell your audience to go out and do stuff. Do, do, talk is cheap, do. And then when it comes to you doing stuff, you say, I didn't mean me, I meant everyone else. You're like a phony.

President Trump and Vice President Vance had a plan. They're enacting the plan. All I'm asking of his political opponents and even people in his own party who disagree with his plan, what's your plan? If you're a congressman or anyone else, what is your plan? Lay it out. I promise you I'm open to hearing it. Send it to me, I will air it on the show. Tell me, if you don't have a plan, you're saying that plan sucks, but I don't have a replacement, okay? Here's what I mean, queue up VA for me.

Here's a CBS immigration report. You wanna see what a plan that you actually enact and do and follow through on looks like? President Trump was very clear. We are going to stop illegal crossings at our border. We're going to stop it to a trickle. Well, look, it's only been less than two months, and even CBS has to acknowledge, man, we can't even find anyone out there. You doubt me? Listen to yourself.

You spent how long, you know, going along the border? About four hours. And how different was this trip versus past trips? Well, we did not see a single migrant or asylum seeker. And typically, when we go to the U.S.-Mexico border, we at least see one group of people who are trying to cross into the U.S. illegally. We did not see a single migrant. We saw soldiers, border patrol agents, and National Guard troops, and vehicles, and barriers,

but no migrants. It's not the Dan Bongino show, guys. That's CBS. It's CBS not known as a big pro-Trump outlet. Here's Bloomberg migration to the United States through the Panama jungle route plunges guys that's a 99% not nine not 19.9, 99%. That's what a do looks like and not just a talk. So I'll end today as I started. I am open to anything.

I do not get emotional about people. They've been plus ones and minus ones, and that's okay. I'm just asking you for something very simple. If you don't like Plan A, then you are obligated to present Plan B. If you don't have a Plan B, you're just obstructing Plan A. You are not an effective implementer of the do. You are an effective implementer of the talk. Fair enough? Folks, thanks so much again for

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