The Dan Bongino Show - The Deep Staters Are Turning on Each Other (Ep 1095)

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

In this episode, I address the anti-Trump collaborators turning on each other to cover their tracks as Barr and Durham close in. I also address Trump’s latest moves in Syria along with a 2020 electi...on update you won’t find elsewhere.  News Picks:Republicans storm the fake impeachment hearing on Capitol Hill.    The GOP has had enough of the nonsense.   This older article shows the efforts of Obama loyalist Jim Clapper to distance himself from the Papadapoulos/Mifsud scandal.    Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the damn bongino show listen i gotta get right to it today because we're stacked i told producer joe before the show uh paul and i have been squeezing the lemon today and everybody joe was like uh no no squeezing the lemon like we're crunched for time i was telling him how when we did when we were doing surveillance classes and I was an instructor in the Secret Service Academy. Right, Joe? I just told you this.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I said, you know, squeezing the lemon means when you're following someone and you're in a rush to catch up to them, you run the yellow light. We used to call that squeezing the lemon. And that's not good because they can usually detect you're following them. So don't squeeze the lemon if you're ever involved in surveillance. I was thinking Led Zeppelin. Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show, Producer Joe. I know.
Starting point is 00:00:49 How are you today, my good friend? Cranking out the hits for you here at WDBS. Yeah, cranking out the hits. And as you suggested, I'm reasonably confident they were not talking about police surveillance in that Led Zeppelin song. No. In the triple X rated version of the Dan Bongino show, which doesn't exist. Maybe we'll address that another day.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Ladies and gentlemen, absolutely, we have a lot of fun here. Loaded stack show for you today. We're going to follow up quickly on an opening story about the end of yesterday's show about how Brennan,
Starting point is 00:01:17 Comey, and Clapper, they're not necessarily buddies. No. Turning on each other slowly because something's happening. And if you listen to the last two days shows, which a lot of you did, you'll sense exactly what's going on. All right. All's happening and if you listen to the last two days shows which a lot of you did you'll sense exactly what's going on all right all right
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Starting point is 00:03:26 I want to, it's fair you understand where I stand. You invested time in me. I want you to know where I stand on Trump's statements yesterday about Syria. But before we get to that, they're all freaking out. Why? Just to kind of quickly recap over the last few days, Brennan, John Brennan, who has marshaled this whole effort to spy on Donald Trump, did it based on the dossier, a dossier he did not fully inform the FBI he was aware of. He told everybody, including the public, he didn't see the dossier until September.
Starting point is 00:03:54 John Brennan said that on tape. You saw it on our Monday show. We now know that to be false because in August he's briefing people up on Capitol Hill about the dossier. Everybody clear on that. Why is he panicked? Brennan's panicked because, number one, he based his entire case on Capitol Hill about the dossier. Everybody clear on that? Why is he panicked? Brennan's panicked because number one, he based his entire case on a fake document. Number two, he's been telling everybody
Starting point is 00:04:11 he didn't see the document until December. And number three, the document is in fact a hoax. Now, I don't believe John Brennan even told the FBI about his early dealings with this dossier, the Steele dossier and the Simpson dossier. It's the same thing. I don't think he told the FBI about his early dealings with this dossier, the Steele dossier and the Simpson dossier. It's the same thing. I don't think he told the FBI that. And I think there's quite the rebellion going on.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And Johnny B is panicked because he's not sure Christopher Steele, who was recently interviewed by Durham. Oh, that Durham may have some answers about this. And he's afraid Christopher Steele's not going to stick to the script. Covered that in the last few shows. Now, if you ever needed, ever, hard and fast prima facie evidence that Brennan is in a complete meltdown about what's going to happen, let me give you, she's probably going to block me after this,
Starting point is 00:05:00 but that's okay. Always go to the Twitter account of one Natasha Bertrand at Politico, who is a stooge for the deep staters. Anytime the deep staters want a narrative out there, they go to fake journalists like Bertrand, pretending to be media people who put out the preferred narrative of the spy gate plotters. Check out this piece by our good friend and by good friend i mean not good friend natasha berger and at politico trump's quest for vengeance against john brennan there we go you know i don't even need to show you the rest of the year any folks i'm not kidding whenever you want if you need a barometer of the level of panic on behalf of joe's lab
Starting point is 00:05:46 because i've told him this a thousand times off and on the air he thinks it's funny because it's true i have nothing personal against natasha bertrand i don't know her maybe she's very nice and professionally she is a total train wreck all she does is rehash tired old conspiracy theories doing no journalistic work ever to fact check what they're telling her so brennan clearly is feeding to her now this new narrative which she dutifully you know that she she works for them practically um reprints what's the narrative joe this is personal this is there's nothing to do with trumpian spider trump just it's a quest for revenge joe now this is probably coming from brennan or his lackeys themselves right to bertrand and of course she runs the headline folks i'm telling you chalk this up as exhibit
Starting point is 00:06:34 number one through ten in the what i'm telling you is true file brennan is freaked out because he's about to be interviewed he's like i, I'm not sure what I'm going to be interviewed for, for spying on the president. Maybe kind of, sort of. Yeah. Brennan is freaked out and he's trying to get out to his media acolytes,
Starting point is 00:06:53 his bootlickers, you know, his, his, his, his, his media servants, his servantry.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He's trying to get out to them a preferred narrative that this is personal and has nothing to do with his central role in marshalling the biggest political spying scandal in human history yeah that's all that political headline is now why why what's going on here well as i said he's worried about what christopher steel's gonna say he needs steel toeele, in fact, wrote the dossier and it was his work. It wasn't. We know it was Simpson. Simpson's wife has already indicated as much in her own Facebook post,
Starting point is 00:07:32 which is going to cause him big trouble. And again, he also needs Steele to stick to the script that he didn't communicate with the CIA or Brennan's people until December because Brennan's on tape saying that. Big trouble in Little China. Remember that movie? That was a great movie. Kurt Russell.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I love that movie. Kim Cattrall was in that too, right? She was the lady from the mannequin movie. Folks, this guy's in big trouble, but he's also in big trouble because there's some misperception out there. And I hinted at it yesterday, but I want to show you an older piece
Starting point is 00:07:59 by Deborah Hine at PJ Media to kind of prove my point here in a second. Clapper, Comey and brennan are all corrupted they're all in my opinion morally inept awful horrible people i i mean i mean that i really mean they're just really bad people who abuse their power significantly but that does not mean they're all friends and it does not mean that's why in i hate to keep mentioning my book but it's important i laid it out this way for a reason my new book exonerated the opening few chapters are a timeline of the players and in just a few pages it explains all the players
Starting point is 00:08:43 different motors for doing what they did in a way I promise you've never heard it before. That's in my new book. Check it out. They all had different motives. Clapper and Comey are simpatico. They're buddies. Comey and Brennan are not. Because, as I explained to you yesterday, I believe Brennan misled Comey.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Misled Comey into believing that the information he was getting in August, as Brennan has already said, remember in that clip we played on the Monday show? Brennan's on with Chuck Todd and MSNBC and says, we were getting information in the summer of 2016, which we pulsed against the FBI. Folks, he's not telling Comey that that information steals information. I believe he's telling Comey it's a separate information stream. And when Comey connects with steel and the FBI in November, he thinks Joe,
Starting point is 00:09:35 please tell me you're tracking this. He thinks it's a confirmation. Call me of what Brennan told him earlier. It's the same information. Why is this important? Because in order to advance their theory that this information is true, they engage in a deep state setup
Starting point is 00:09:55 using Joseph Mifsud, where they try to set up Papadopoulos in this, the Russians have Hillary's email scheme. Mifsud is clearly working for a Western intelligence agency or in conjunction with rogue operators feeding information to Brennan to set him up. Now, now, now.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Now, now? Check out this PJ Media piece. It's an older piece by Deborah Hine. It's from January of 2018. But, oh, is it worth your time? And hat tip to the person who sent this to me you know who you are obama dni jim clapper george papadopoulos wasn't really a name on my radar scope when i left remember remember follow me all right i'm budsman hat joe i Budsman hat on. Clapper and Comey like this.
Starting point is 00:10:45 They love each other. They idolize. They go out to dinner. They think the two of them are the cats meow. Each one thinks the other is the same thing. They think they're wonderful. These are the Eddie Haskells of a, hello, Mrs. Claver. They love each other.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Having din-dins over each other's house. Quite the bromance. Why, Joe, do you think Clapper, Obama's director of national intelligence, who unquestionably has his foot in the door of just about everything that's going on at Spygate, why do you think as he left office, he would put out a statement back in 2018,
Starting point is 00:11:23 a year afterwards, that he didn't know much about Papadopoulos. Gee, let's see. Let's think about this. If you followed yesterday's show, right, what did I tell you? I told you that the Mifsud operation, the Maltese professor, who's hanging out over in Italy, oh, convenient, Durham and the guys were just over in Italy. Durham and Barr, those investigated, were over in Italy Durham and Barr those investigated were over in Italy and they may have heard some tapes about Miss Sud and all of a sudden Joe the IG reports delayed I'll get to that in a second too so remember what I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:11:56 Miss Sud is a western plan this is an entrapment scheme in a setup you may say to yourself did Comey not know that? Well, as I said to you yesterday, according to Papadopoulos, Comey's own FBI agents were asking George Papadopoulos to wear a wire against Mifsud, which should point you
Starting point is 00:12:15 in the direction that the FBI may not have known that Mifsud was trying to entrap George Papadopoulos in a rogue intelligence operation. They may have been in the dark on this, too. I'm not absolving them. Don't email me.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Why are you giving up? There is no pass. The FBI screwed up. They know no later than January. This is a hoax case. They've interviewed Steele's sources. They know it's BS. The Bureau screwed up at the highest levels.
Starting point is 00:12:44 No question. But I'm telling you, they're all getting ready to throw Brennan under the bus. That's that Clapper statement. Do you get it now? Clapper's distancing himself from Papadopoulos. I didn't know anything about Papadopoulos because Papadopoulos was set up by who, Joe? Mifsud! Who I'm telling you is a Western intelligence asset working with people in Brennan's little small group to set up Papadopoulos. In other words, Clapper
Starting point is 00:13:15 and Comey are getting ready to say, I had nothing to do with the setup. Alright. The setup was of Papadopoulos why do you think clapper would say that you may say okay dan now yesterday's show and today's show you're providing some evidence but it's not enough for me yesterday's show so just so we're clear again what we're talking about brennan's nervous because steel's gonna rat him out right that they were communicating earlier than brennan said part number two brennan's setup of papadopoulos
Starting point is 00:13:49 that i have a little doubt him and his uh compadres there tried to set up papadopoulos by using mifsud right okay i have no doubt they didn't tell the fbi that mifsud was working with him or Littledown. All right. I'm basing this on these data points. The FBI asks Papadopoulos to wear a wire against Mifsud. Folks, there's no way they would do that against their own source. There's no way. If Mifsud was working with the FBI on this case, they would not have asked him to wear a wire. Second data point, they interview Mifsud, the FBI, in January, February of 2017, and they
Starting point is 00:14:28 let him go, and they never hear from him again. Why let him go if he's a Russian asset? Third, Clapper, Jim Comey's bosom buddy, all of a sudden in 2018 says, hey, I don't know anything about this Papadopoulos guy when I left. You mean the same guy who was set up by Mifsud? Finally, let me throw one more at you. A little while ago, Jim Comey wrote a ridiculous, absurd, unintentionally hysterical op-ed
Starting point is 00:14:58 in the Washington Post. In that op-ed, Joe, do you notice there's only one person of all the spy gay plotters, only one who has ever clearly said that Mifsud is a Russian agent? Who is that person?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Let's see. Let's think about this. Was it Bob Mueller? No, no. No, no, no. Bob Mueller's report says Mifsud had Russian connections. Meaningless.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Throw that in the garbage. Doesn't mean anything. Mueller just put that in there to make it sound suspicious. Actually, Weissman probably put it in there. Do you notice in the Mueller report, it never ever claims Mifsud's a Russian agent? I thought that was the whole thing. A Russian agent tried to get Papadopoulos Hillary's emails.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I thought that was the whole case. But one person does very specifically say that Mifsud was a Russian agent, or hints at it, talking about Mifsud. Jim Comey. Why would Comey do that? Remember what we're talking about? Was Comey and his buddy Clapper kept in the dark by Johnny B, Johnny Bizzles, Johnny Boombatz, Johnny Brennan on a rogue intelligence entrapment operation he was running with Western intelligence friends of his? Was he kept in the dark about Mifsud and all of it?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Did Comey and Clapper for a while really believe Mifsud was a Russian agent? Why would Comey write that in op-ed? Because he believes it? No, Comey doesn't have the integrity to do that. Comey's one of the worst snakes in this whole thing. Comey put that, Joe, and tell me if this makes sense, please. Comey wrote that in a Washington Post op-ed to throw Brennan under the bus. Because Comey is going to stick to his story once it comes out.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Once it comes out, how little he did to verify the dossier, he's going to come out and say, well, we didn't think we had to verify the dossier that much because we had this other information from Johnny B saying that this Papadopoulos was working with this Russian agent. Johnny B told us. He's not a Russian agent. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Johnny B's the CIA director. He told me the dude was a Russian agent. What do you want me to do? You get it? Yeah. Yeah. You think Comey's dumb he's sleazy he's a liar he's not stupid Comey's putting this in the Washington Post to get it on the record that hey we may have done a really horrible job in not verifying the dossier we said was verified but we had other information
Starting point is 00:17:45 the information that brendan said he pulsed against us in the summer of 2016 we were told the russian agent was reaching out to the trump team we didn't know johnny b was running a rogue intel operation my bad so sad yeah that makes sense. Yeah. Oh, boy. That's the icing on the cake of this three, four day compendium of the Spygate collapse that's happening as we speak. Now, let me put the cherry on top of the icing on the cake.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So this makes sense and why I'm talking about it again today. this makes sense and why I'm talking about it again today. Because as Catherine Harage and other terrific reporters at Fox News and some others elsewhere have reported, John Durham, the U.S. attorney who's investigating the Spygate scandal and William Barr, our terrific attorney
Starting point is 00:18:35 general, apparently took a trip to Italy and came across some information about Mifsud that delayed the IG report. Conveniently got delayed after the Steele interview too. Now, hat tip to Margot Cleveland at the Federalist.
Starting point is 00:18:50 She posits that there's two and only two reasons the IG report was delayed again. I told you what the original reason I believe was, the Steele interview, where I'm almost positive he throws the CIA and FBI
Starting point is 00:19:01 under the bus. Almost positive. Two reasons it's been delayed again after the Italy trip. Either the IG report they found referred some people for criminal prosecution, that they found some really nasty stuff in Italy, Joe, particularly about Mifsud. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Or reason two, the IG report totally blew it and Barr and Durham are out there cleaning up the mess. There's no other reason why this would be delayed. I'm basically telling you, strap in and get ready. And as I said to, Paul is going to freak out, but I said to my publisher today, honestly, there may be a book three here. Paula's like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You have no idea how much work these things are. Really? She's like, no. She's even looking at me now. She's disconnecting the video. The show's over, folks. The last show we're ever going to do. It just ended.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Sorry. Done. Oh, man. I seriously think there may be a book three in here. No. That ain't the CBSI. It's looking at you right now. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. All right, folks. I got a lot to go. I still want to get to this serious stuff. It's really important. Gotcha, buddy.
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Starting point is 00:22:42 as Joey says, we like to get you the news in an hour, everything you need to know. Everything. One of the things that happened yesterday is very important is Trump gave a speech. And in that speech, he was talking about the Syria-Turkey ceasefire that's now going to be permanent. And he addressed some issues we have had over there in Syria and kind of laid out a model or a template for a Trump foreign policy. I owe you, owe you an explanation of how I feel. Now, I want to say in advance, my position on foreign war, foreign military involvement, foreign interventions does not have to be yours. I respect and value your opinions.
Starting point is 00:23:22 My email is on the website. Feel free to critique and lay out your own opinion many of you are very many of you have been in the region as a secret service agent I traveled around the Middle East a lot I don't claim to have Iota the experience in the region that a lot of our military officers who spend a lot of time there do
Starting point is 00:23:38 but I do in fact owe you an opinion on my larger ideological leanings and why I think President Trump has this right. And some of you may disagree, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Like I said, respect. I respect what you have to say, but I may feel different than some of you. Some I may not. Before we do that and get to it, I want to lay out just what he said yesterday in two clips I find important. This is the diplomatic reception room. He gave a speech yesterday. And in this clip first, he talks about an old principle known in diplomatic circles as
Starting point is 00:24:11 real polity. In other words, the world is as it is. It's not as we want it to be. And although that sounds obvious, like there's nothing particularly profound about that, obvious, like there's nothing particularly profound about that. It's not obvious. Sometimes people talk about nation building and other things as if there's some allegiance to the principles of a republic that we have, or even some more direct democracies elsewhere that others have, when some others around the world are not ready for that or don't want that. In other words, around the world are not ready for that or don't want that in other words democracy is great if you want it let's not assume everybody around the world is ready or wants that right so i want you to i'm going to play cut one here but i want you to listen to the end part of your first trump starts talking about how the open borders crowd is it's now become the same endless wars crowd which is
Starting point is 00:25:00 strange because they're driving refugee crises all over the world now. But he ends this suggesting what I just said. And I'm glad to see that Trump is a business guy is finally starting to get this. Check this out. People pushing for these wars are often the ones demanding America open its doors to unlimited migration from war torn regions, importing the terrorism and the threat of terrorism right to our own shores. But not anymore. My administration understands that immigration security is national security. As a candidate for president, I made clear that we needed a new approach to American foreign policy, one guided not by ideology, but by experience, history, and a realistic understanding of the world. Amen, Mr. President. I couldn't agree with you more on this.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Listen, folks, I'm not naive, okay? Our soldiers in combat are the bravest men and women we have. I mean, is there any greater sacrifice than putting your butt on the line for the safety and security of another? I mean, it almost seems obvious, but to some it isn't. Having said that, the use of now, and I mean, I don't mean to, but Joe's now got a son in the Marine Corps. having said that the use of now, and I, I mean, I don't mean to, but, but Joe's now got a son in the Marine Corps.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I mean, this is real for Joe. Like this bleeds for Joe. Like this is like flesh and blood as flesh and blood as it's going to get to any human being on the planet. I'm just telling you, my family was never the same after my uncle was shot in the back in Vietnam. Never.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Now, again, I'm not naive that we should never make a geopolitical strategic military decision because people will die. That's not the real world either. Right. But engaging in all kinds of flowery talk about nation building and saving this group of people and that group of people, despite their inability to save themselves while putting other people's kids on the front lines, I'm not so sure that's the world we live in. That may be the world you want to live in.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Folks, there's problems all over the world. Korea, North Korea specifically, Darfurfur there's issues in indonesia and vietnam there's issues all over the world some more grave some less oh yes democracy is a laudable goal but again why aren't we pressuring other countries to move to a full-blown republic. What I'm trying to get at with that Trump clip there is I think we have a commander-in-chief in office who's been deeply impacted by having a greeted Dover Air Force Base, endless planes of American young men and women coming back in flag-draped coffins. Now, I'm going to play a cut at the end. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I got my final cut. We're on MSNBC, of all places. I got one more Trump cut first. On MSNBC, of all places, that I think drives this home that President Trump is finally as one of these guys who hasn't grown up in the political process and learned to be immune to this, I guess, is starting to ask real questions. Like, how many more pounds of flesh for this? Before that, this is the MSNBC cut's good. I think they're even surprised.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, you saw it. Yeah, man. Here's cut number two with trump asking an obvious question this was supposed to be a short-term commitment over there it is turned into an endless timeline commitment in the region with our kids play cut to. And all forms of the Kurds have been fighting for centuries. We have done them a great service and we've done a great job for all of them. And now we're getting out. Long time. We were supposed to be there for 30 days. That was almost 10 years ago. So we're there for 30 days,
Starting point is 00:29:26 and now we're leaving. It was supposed to be a very quick hit, and let's get out, and it was a quick hit, except they stayed for almost 10 years. Let someone else fight over this long, blood-stained sand. Folks, I know it's going to stir a lot of controversy,
Starting point is 00:29:44 and even some of my conservative friends feel differently. Again, respect, and I know it's going to stir a lot of controversy and even some of my conservative friends feel differently. Again, respect, and I mean it. I'm not questioning your motives at all. I'm not. But I owe you my opinion. You've invested time in me, and I'm not trying to avoid this topic. I haven't been.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I only apply the Bongino rule. I wait 24 to 72 hours to see how a situation is going to play out most of the time, unless it's acute, before we comment. There's now a ceasefire. We'll see if it holds. It's been made permanent. The Turks have a longstanding beef with the Kurds. The Kurds have a longstanding beef with both some of their Iraqi governance and some of the Turks on the other side. The question is, if it was you in the fight or it was one of your children, is this a fight you would be willing to forfeit your kid's life for? If the answer is yes, then yes, we should stay in the region.
Starting point is 00:30:39 My answer is clearly 100% no. I'm sorry. Now, I teased it long enough here, but I want you to watch this MSNBC clip. Because I think President Trump, having come into this, I believe personally affected by the families and the loss of loved ones. He has to experience when he goes to Dover. He makes these decisions. There's only one commander in chief and his name is Donald J. Trump. Only one. These decisions he's making are costing lives, some for a noble cause, some for causes he questions. Apparently, he has this one question he keeps asking a lot of military leaders
Starting point is 00:31:26 and he's having a tough time getting an answer check out this clip and you'll see what that question is when trump first came to office and started meeting with his generals in charge of the middle east and special operations um he asked them all that question how do we win that's something he's very fixated on and it's the exact opposite of what we hear from the pentagon leaders when they talk about these long-term commitments to you know counter-terrorism operations around the world that not a fair question you're sitting there this plane comes in you got parents i mean you you heard the president talk about he's making it up like it doesn't affect him he He's just saying that for a problem.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Well, you're a jerk if you believe that. So you got these flag-draped coffins. You got these parents who've lost everything. It's over. It's over. I mean, can you imagine? What does everyone even live for? You got your kid.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You've loved more than anything in your entire life. There's nothing you will love like your kid. Your kid is dead. They're getting taken out in a coffin with a flag you get nicely folded up. Take the flag.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Give us the kid back. He's got to stand there and he's asking a simple question. What's the win strategy, man? What's the strategy? Are we going to win? Is there a way to win? What's the strategy? Are we going to win?
Starting point is 00:32:46 Is there a way to win? What are we doing? Well, we're engaged in counterterrorism. Okay, well, how do we win that? Does anybody have an answer? I mean, I have to explain, as President of the United States, he has to explain to these parents what they died for. How do we win? There was a clear win and an end game in World War II. Candidly, there was a pretty clear win in Vietnam too, but the political will wasn't there to stay in the fight in an effort to drive
Starting point is 00:33:22 communists out of the region. We didn't follow through. There was a clear win in World War II. What's the win? Well, we're going to fight them there so we don't have to fight them. We're fighting them here anyway. The fighting them there has not stopped the fight here. That's not a deliverable
Starting point is 00:33:46 it's brewing terrorism over what terrorism did folks you think this is going to go anywhere now because i owe you again a little more ideological kind of a bedrock why have I planted and built my house on this? I've always believed in three simple rules and they're not mine. When it comes to war and I'd apply them even a conflict where your kid's skin is in the game or maybe you. You know, Fox Connors, he's a very famous military strategist, US military. He influenced Eisenhower heavily. Fox Connors had his three rules of war. I'd apply them to any conflict in general involving our personnel. Rule number one, before you go to war and put your kids' skin in the game, never fight alone. Ever. If you have to fight
Starting point is 00:34:48 alone, you're in the wrong war. You know why? Because if you don't have partners, those partners may turn on you later, and you might be fighting an entirely different team than the team you walked in on. Rule number one. I've always admired Fox. This is very simple, very elegant, and very true. Never fight alone. Rule number two. Never fight for long. Neither the political will
Starting point is 00:35:19 nor can a nation sustain endless wars. It was one of the reasons for the collapse of the Roman Empire and great societies around the world by endless conflict. If you're going to fight, fight for a reason. Fight with partners. Fight with a clear exit strategy. And get out when it's over. Stop changing the deliverable. Never fight alone and never fight
Starting point is 00:35:49 for long. But rule number three is the most important. And regardless of where you stand in this question, and again, I appreciate your emails. Rule number three is the most important. rule number three is the most important never ever ever go to war unless you absolutely have to i have not fought in a war many of you have those you have who have been gracious and open enough to share your experiences with me the horror of it is immeasurable i was very offended um a few weeks ago i got an email i was talking about fighting like physical fighting grappling and how horrible it is when you're losing in a fight and in brazilian jiu-jitsu not necessarily a street fight or anything like that and i got a facebook message from a guy who unbelievably said, what a way to crap on our military veterans
Starting point is 00:36:46 who fought in combat. Honest to God, folks, I was perplexed. I had no idea what he was talking about until I read further down where he thought somehow I was claiming a Brazilian jujitsu match is worse than war. Sir, I'm sorry, but you clearly don't listen to my show like ever.
Starting point is 00:37:06 There's not even a comparison of the two no i was talking about violence i mean one-on-one war mass death and the atrocities associated with war is pain on a human scale of one to ten of a 10.6 i only know from listening that, can I just tell you one story? My may take a point of personal privilege on my show. I'm not going to say his name or where I know him. I'll just say this. I know him from my professional work experiences. You can probably figure out the rest.
Starting point is 00:37:38 He knows who he is and he listens to the show. I was working with him one day. He had been in Gulf War I. He was a tow missile operator with the united states marine corps finest warriors on earth this is paula knows this guy he's the toughest man i've ever met i'm i'm not kidding and believe me i met some tough guy i'm not talking about the best brazilian jiu-jitsu mma i mean mentally the hardest human being I've ever met. Tough to talk to sometimes.
Starting point is 00:38:08 A hard man. And one day, in what was one of the only times I ever saw him display, candidly, any emotion at all. He's one of my best friends, but he's not an emotional guy. He was a tow missile guy, and the tow missile operators got to see a lot of action in gulf war one it was over quickly but not for them they were there and they were taking out some of the iraqi tanks and so he told me this story about them engaging an iraqi tank and then watching what happened and men being burned alive and others fleeing in a truck to try to get away. Then being hit by rounds that would shred them. This is the hardest man ever.
Starting point is 00:38:56 You think he was sitting there talking about that with some kind of glee, how fun it was. This ain't the freaking movies, man. That guy was haunted by that every day he said he could never get out of his head how he disguised these guys who were burned alive and mowed to pieces how he didn't know them they never did anything to him how that was the last day of their lives. And how some kid was then going to figure out or never figure out why his dad never came home. Many of them don't take care of our dead like we do.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Probably left them there, burning corpses never to be found. You think they're taking dental records? That bothered him for the rest of his life. To those of you who fought, there's nobody on the planet, no one I respect more than you, for what you've had to endure on a pain scale. There is no greater pain than having to go through that. And I've been shaped by it ever since,
Starting point is 00:39:58 by hearing the stories of others and watching my own family have to live through the pain. They were never the same of losing one of ours. I wasn't even alive when it happened. I was born in 1974. My grandmother, until the day she died, was broken over losing her son in Vietnam. It shapes everything, folks. Remember Fox Conner. Even if you disagree.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Never fight alone. Never fight for long. And never, ever fight unless you absolutely have to. All right. It's a tough topic to talk about. We need a little mental break. Well, I do have some good news
Starting point is 00:40:44 for the rest of the show. I don't want to leave you on a thursday here with uh a little depressed because it is a tough topic finally shaquille o'neal somebody steps up and does the right thing in the international fight for freedom gosh i've been getting so disappointed in the where are the where are the ted remember ted williams show ted williams left baseball to go fight in a war where are these heroes now now we got this clown show lebron james colin capper whatever his face is and others you know it's unbelievable so finally we get so i'm going to get to that in a second before we get to that we one last sponsor i want to show you some great video um of shack finally saying what i think someone should have said a long time ago finally today's show brought to you by our buddies at eToro. eToro. Folks, here's how I found eToro. It's E-T-O-R-O.
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Starting point is 00:43:49 I don't think he was as good as Michael Jordan. But LeBron, who was suggesting that the Houston Rockets GM, a guy by the name of Darryl Morley, right? Or is it Mori? I'm sorry, I always say his name wrong. But the Houston Rockets GM, Mori, had put out a tweet suggesting his support for the fight for freedom in hong kong because the chinese wanted to move an extradition treaty to be able to take people off hong kong back to mainland china for reasons that were probably not on the up and up so we have the houston rockets gm who stands up and sends out this tweet he then retracts the
Starting point is 00:44:21 tweet later and of course gets all kinds of pressure in the nba it was just a mess and lebron of course attacks goes after the houston gm this is a supposedly woke lebron james trying to defend uh you know all the social justice worries but won't stand up for basic freedoms so here's this little piece on of shaquille o'neal i believe this is on tnt this is shack and saying finally what I think someone needed to be, what someone needed to say. Remember, I'm not naive here. I get it.
Starting point is 00:44:51 There are financial arrangements. I'll explain more when I come back, but I think this is particularly well done. Check this out. As American people, we do a lot of business in China and they know and understand our values and we understand their values.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And one of our best values here in America is free speech we're allowed to say what we want to say and we're allowed to speak up about injustices and that's just how it goes and if people don't understand that that's something that they have to deal with but you know I just think Stuller was unfortunate for you know both parties and then you got people speaking when they don't know what they're talking about but Daryl Murray was right. Whenever you see something wrong going on anywhere in the world, you should have the right to say, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And that's what he did. But again, when it comes to business, sometimes you have to tiptoe around things. But again, they understand our values. We understand our values. And here, we have the right to speak, especially with the social media. We're going to say whatever we want to say, when we want to say it. Good for you. man yes i always knew i liked this guy it's not hard folks i get it i am not not just like i'm not naive about the necessity sometimes of conflict and violence, war. I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I'm not a kid. I'm not naive, but I do have reasons for believing what I believe. I'm not naive about this either. There are people in the United States who've worked their entire lives and had to generate business with some people in countries, folks who are not on the up and up. What are we going to do? Stop all economic activity worldwide because every country on earth has an issue we don't agree with? I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I get the NBA is in a tough spot. But when you're in a tough spot, there are certain lodestars we should never take our eyes off of. load stars we should never take our eyes off of. And we should always, always stand up for basic principles of freedom and liberty. Always. But I don't mind what Shaq said. Shaq is very clear. I get it. There are some financial things here, but they need to respect our values like we respect theirs. When the people in mass or in China are ready for something different, there will be some kind of a political revolt that's happened throughout human history. It's happening in Hong Kong right now.
Starting point is 00:47:19 When they're ready for freedom, we should be there to back them up and stand up for that. I get it. There are financially, I'm not suggesting the NBA and every company all over the planet earth has to pull out from China. But what Shaq said is fair enough. If we're going to respect that they have a system that at least some, obviously not all, bizarrely thinks worked for this, the world's largest surveillance state. I don't know how it keeps going.
Starting point is 00:47:47 They have to respect ours too. That's all LeBron had to say. Instead, what does he do? He attacks the messenger in one of the more cowardly statements I've ever seen from a sports figure. Nice job, Shaq. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I'm serious. I appreciate that. Yeah. Finally said with you again, I'm not asking anybody to be naive here. Every single business on planet Earth needs to pull out of China tomorrow. It's not even economically possible. We can recognize that, but the Chinese need to respect the fact that we're a free country.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And if we want to fight for freedom and stand for people that are fighting for freedom, we're damn well going to do it and we'll tweet about it and we'll talk about it and we'll stand up when we need to stand up and you can sit out. Good job. By the way, I'm sure the NBA was cringing when he said that. Can't say that Shaq. Nike's probably losing their minds over that one. All right. This is an important story i wanted to get to this it's gonna get to it yesterday but such a stack show i haven't done any election 2020 stuff in a while uh it's been like a week or so but this is a really really good piece it was a
Starting point is 00:48:57 wall street journal piece on some good news bad news for the 2020 election i liked it i listen when i say election 2022, I only will address, I promise you have my word, articles that I believe bring something to the debate you're not going to hear everywhere else. This piece is interesting, man. William Galston, the opening in the American voters' mind. Nearly one-third
Starting point is 00:49:17 say their presidential vote will depend on the Democratic nominee. There are two key takeaways from this piece so what he's saying number one is right now everybody take a chill pill on the polls on trump you know poll trump's gonna lose by 101 it's not even possible whatevs the everybody to please out. Here's finally a reasonable study by some people who've done some homework on a number of voters who are in the what I'll call put up a screenshot one from the piece, please. What I'll call the it depends vote. In other words, they may support Trump, but it depends who he's running against. Listen to this from the piece is important.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Depends who he's running against. Listen to this from the piece. This is important. Among registered voters, 29% say they will support Donald Trump no matter who the Democratic candidate turns out to be. So Trump has 30 basically in the bag, Joe. Right. 40% say they will support the Democrat no matter what. So the Dems have 40% in the bag. You may say, oh, it sounds like big trouble.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Eh, time out. There's a hook to this. But another 29% say their vote will depend on which candidate the Democrats select. Among likely voters, the quote, it depends group makes up 24% of the electorate compared with 43% who are committed to the Democrat nominee and 31% who are committed to Trump, to Mr. Trump. Now, why is that important? You may say, Dan, sounds like Trump's in real trouble. 40% of people are committed to the Democrat, no matter who it is, and only 30% for Trump.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And yet the other 30% are saying it depends who the nominee is. Well, that's not so much trouble, folks. It says that there are people who are doing their due diligence and waiting to see what actually happens. There's nothing wrong with that. And folks, remember, over time, as long as the economy stays generally strong, generally strong,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I love what the Republicans are doing. This is just so great. I'll get to that in a second too eventually those voters will come home and vote their pocketbooks remember reagan was down something like eight to ten points to jimmy carter before he wound up smoking him in the general election and reagan was also showing some weakness with mondale as well until he won 49 out of 50 states so what i'm suggesting to you is don't necessarily panic. But now you may be saying, well, Dan, that still doesn't get us past the
Starting point is 00:51:50 40% are going to vote for the Democrat and only 30% for Trump locked in. Well, if it was a popular vote election, maybe check out that takeaway number two from this piece, which is very good analysis here. So the first takeaway is a lot of these voters are just, it depends people. So everybody stand fast and take it easy. We don't know who the nominee is. Timeout. Takeaway number two, quote from the piece, William Galston. Because Democrats have more wasted votes in solidly blue states than Republicans do in comparable red states, they need more than a plurality of the popular vote to prevail, as they learned in 2016. Barack Obama's 51%
Starting point is 00:52:25 majority and four point plus popular vote edge gave him a comfortable electoral college victory in 2012. Folks, what does that mean? You may have 40% of people who think that the Democrat nominee is their guy or woman no matter what, and only 30% for Trump folks remember the democrat nominee is going to win in states like california with probably 60 of the vote probably the same in illinois and close to the same in new york and massachusetts and maryland as well right that's not going to be the case in red purpley states if trump wins arizona if we can pull one out in colorado if he wins minnesota and michigan again he's gonna win probably by a small margin like he did in pennsylvania and other places meaning the democrats can rack up all the popular votes they want new york and california the president's not running for governor of New York and California. He's running to be the national president.
Starting point is 00:53:28 So what they're saying is even though 40% are locked in for the Democrat nominee, if these It Depends voters flip and come back to Trump, if the economy stays strong, that's not anywhere close to the margin they need. That 40%, anywhere close to the margin. Even if they flip a certain percentage of the It Depends voters to win the electoral college. You may win the popular vote again, but it ain't a popular vote election, folks. It's not about the number of runs in a seven-game series. It's who wins four games first. That's the rules.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Don't like it? Too bad. Move somewhere else where they have a direct democracy and two wolves and a sheep voting for what's for dinner that ain't here i just said looking at the fox i'm just coverage of this yesterday with the republicans uh good job by the way storming the uh hearing the fake impeachment hearing i have a piece up at the daily caller in my show notes about it great job they're having this fake impeachment here. They tried to close out Republicans. The Republicans stormed the room. Good for you. Thankfully, cojones.
Starting point is 00:54:28 We love that. Nice work. Let's see more of that. All right, folks. Thanks again. Really appreciate it. Please pick up my new book, Exonerated, where I talk about all these players
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