The Dan Bongino Show - The Explosive White House Meeting That Changed Everything (Ep. 2434)

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

In this episode, I discuss the fallout from last Friday's Trump/Zelenskyy meeting at the White House, the next steps and how this will affect America, Ukraine and Europe. Plus, the predictable media ...psyop campaign continues. Trump Signs Executive Order Creating U.S. Crypto Reserve British Prime Minister Vows to Put British Boots on the Ground in Ukraine Bessent Calls Out Media for Hiding Economic Crisis Until Trump Took Office Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. Hey Bongino Army. I looked everywhere for Dan. I can't find him. So I figured I'm the captain now. We're gonna have to rip the Band-Aid off at some point. He's not gonna be with us.
Starting point is 00:00:31 So I just figured this was a great opportunity for me to introduce myself to the Bondino Army. I've met a few of you on social media. You have been so welcoming and so wonderful. I am Hayley Carania. I'm gonna be hosting Nightly Scrolls, 6 p.m. Eastern time, Monday to Friday on Rumble. So I hope you join me.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And oh, look who decided to show up for his own show. Look at that. Thank you, Hailey. So good to have you. Hey, there you go. What an introduction. Of course, I was not late. I asked Hailey to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:01 But look, they leave me a little note. Look at these guys. Can you read that? Plug in IFB, because Michael was these guys. Can you read that? Plug in IFB, cause Michael was so afraid. You love her already? So this morning, let me give you a little kind of inside baseball.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Haley came in this morning and we wanted to run through kind of, they call them like a sizzle reel in the business where she goes out and she just kind of does her thing. So she's playing and reading through the script. And I was like, this is your shot, man. Just, you know, we can do a few runs if you want. And boom, but first time, Zeus lightning bolts.
Starting point is 00:01:34 She's like, you want me to do it over? Justin, what did we sit there and do afterwards? We're like, no, no, no. I'm like, no, no, doing that over. First time. I'm telling you, man, we got to, we really, I don't do a ton of things great, but one thing I do well, I have an incredible,
Starting point is 00:01:49 I am an incredible judge of talent. Obviously Evita's show, who's sitting right here too, been amazing. And now you got Haley, Karen Neha, who's gonna tear it up. Were you guys a little, come on, Bonjino Army, were you guys a little bugged out when we had an empty seat in the beginning of the show? Did you really think I missed the show
Starting point is 00:02:06 Hello Well, I mean seriously, it's not a hard. That's not a tough standard I mean damn bonjino is gonna you know, I do radio too for a reason when I first went to video I told Paula I'm like my gosh, you know, I hope people don't recoil in horror, but I do have a show to get started today I got a lot of content for you and I'm gonna do what may be my last weekend update before I have to change out to the non-partisan FBI Deputy Director hat in just a couple of weeks. So I'm gonna love these final shows. They're gonna be great.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 So this may be one of my last weekend updates. I'm debating whether to do one next Monday because a lot of stuff I'll be doing on the weekend will be professional stuff, which I'm not really gonna talk about, of course. So this weekend, I went out and spent a good amount of time with a friend in a local restaurant, Blackbird. And I got to tell you, folks, there were a lot of members out there of the Bonjino Army
Starting point is 00:04:15 who said the nicest things. I could not believe it. Matter of fact, one of the guys I was with said, Dan, I counted 13 people in the first five minutes. So to everyone who came up and said hello and, uh, uh, and, and, and express their, their gratitude and congratulations on this new job. I'm a new endeavor. I'm going to take on. I just want you to know, I deeply appreciate it. Wasn't a huge big weekend, but the next night we went to, uh, Lenora's,
Starting point is 00:04:40 which is a Palm city restaurant, Italian folks, you know, the deal. With a last name like Bongino, I'm very sensitive about Italian food You would be stunned how many Italian food places can't actually do Italian food. It's Justin just said amen and his last name is a belial which is in no way Italian at all It's it's are you I don't buy it. I think he is it all French So he's actually as much Italian as I am. My mother was Irish and German, but the food was amazing. Thank you for the hospitality, but here's where it gets interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So I go out the same night, Saturday night, and I went to a Bailey Zimmerman concert and Bailey tore it up. And folks, thank you to Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office for providing a little blanket of security out there. And the guys, I really deeply appreciate it. It was really nice. We had so many nice people.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So it means a lot to me. So there's one of my last weekend updates was our, why did we go to a concert this weekend? Well, Paula had bought the tickets a long time ago and it's probably our last weekend before we got to get really start digging into stuff. So I really, really appreciate everything. All right, I got a big show to get through today.
Starting point is 00:05:46 So obviously the big monster story, the level nine story on a one to 10 scale is what happened in the Oval Office last week on, was it Friday? Folks, the Friday, I'm actually stunned, the what we call VOD in the business, video on demand, viewing of my show was as high as it was because if you all remember,
Starting point is 00:06:12 the Trump-Zelensky blowup happened after my podcast on Friday. So obviously not being the Stygian witches, you know, give me the eye. I had no ability to see that was gonna happen. I mean, we knew it was scheduled, but no one knew this thing was going to blow up. So I was expecting the VOD to collapse because everybody would want to watch
Starting point is 00:06:29 what happened after the podcast. We did pretty well, but we got to cover some of it live on the radio and now taking it all in Bongino rule. Folks, this was just an unquestionable catastrophe for President Zelensky. Let me tell you why upfront, what we call bluff, right? Bottom line upfront, the golden rule of negotiations and, or if you want to always sound smart,
Starting point is 00:06:56 like John Bolton says it, negotiations. I don't care how you say it. I'm just gonna tell you this, whether it's a legal case, a civil suit, a baseball players contract, or you're negotiating for military support in a tragic war, the golden rule is this. No who's sitting across the table from you. And I don't know if Zelensky just didn't know that Donald Trump is not to be toyed with, or if he did know and just took bad advice.
Starting point is 00:07:31 There's a story out there I'm applying the Bongino rule to that a group of Democrats and kind of center leaning Republicans told Zelensky to go in there and play hardball with President Trump. I'm applying the Bongino rule to that story before I draw a conclusion. It doesn't matter though. It is your job as the president of a country fighting in this tragic war, no doubt, with all too much death and destruction.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It is your job to know who's sitting across the table. He didn't. Clearly tried the tactic of one-upping Donald Trump and it didn't work. However, astonishingly, it got worse. President Zelensky did an interview after, with Brett Baer from Fox, after the blow-up, and still at least appears to imply here or say directly, you would, you know, your own interpretation matters, that he doesn't need to apologize to President Trump
Starting point is 00:08:31 and through the, and by proxy, the American people too. Check it out, listen to yourself. Not hearing from you, Mr. President, a thought that you owe the president an apology. No, I respect the president and I respect American people. And if, I don't know, if I think that we have to be very open and very honest, and I'm not sure that we did something bad. I think maybe sometimes some things we have to discuss out of media with all respect to
Starting point is 00:09:04 democracy and to a free media. But there are things that where we have to understand the position of Ukraine and Ukrainians. All right. Okay. A couple of things here, a couple of takeaways, because I want to focus on not just the emotions surrounding this. Again, I tell you guys all the time and I don't want to be a fraud or a hypocrite or a phony.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It's my biggest fear. You can't be a spreadsheets guy. Hey man, plus ones or minus ones. Our people to us plus ones or minus ones don't get emotional and then get emotional. Obviously, I'm very emotional about this topic because I care about our military. I care about our $30 trillion debt. I care about preventing a nuclear war because I don't want to get dead and I don't want anyone else to get dead either. But let's try to pull the emotion out of it because a lot of people are very angry at President Zelensky and what happened. Why are they angry? I'll make two points. Number one, he just kind of admitted what he did wrong without admitting what he did wrong. You folks in the chat,
Starting point is 00:09:57 did you catch it? By the way, Haley, I told Haley, she know the rule, Justin, what's the rule if you're in the studio? Everything's fair game. You're in the studio. You don't want to be mentioned. Get out of the studio because once I see you, there's no control. Even if you ask me, there's no controlling it. Folks, I don't even know where I was going with that. Oh, the media's, oh, you got to interact. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Hailey, you got to interact with the chat. They're here for you. I know you know that. So we stopped someone here. Yeah, you got to go. You have to interact with the chat. So M. Torres 61 in the chat is obviously very upset, shut the spigot off a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But for a second, divorce the emotions, spreadsheets. He just admitted what the problem was. Did you catch it? He said, we really should handle this stuff out of the media. Whoa. Vita, you let the chair flow back or something like that? That's never happened. I was expecting the chair to stop me.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm glad I didn't go back harder. That might've been an incident. That might've been a great clip. He just said it. Don't handle this in front of the media, which he tried to handle in front of the media. So keep in mind, again, point one here, he admits that's a problem and says then, I don't think I need to apologize.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But here's the problem, folks. He went into the Oval Office, the deal for the rare earth minerals deal, which was a win for everyone, keep this in mind, the deal had already been agreed to. All President Zelensky had to do was go in the Oval Office. Here, I have this, what pen is this? Here, this is a paper made, I don't know, 25 cent, who knows? It's been inflation, probably $75 for the last four years of that. All he had to do was sign the deal.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But that's not what he did. He went into the Oval Office with a deal already pre-agreed to and tried to negotiate it in front of the media while acknowledging in a later interview that he shouldn't have negotiated in front of the media while also acknowledging or saying that he didn't do anything wrong. But you did. You just said it. What was he negotiating for? Folks, this is important.
Starting point is 00:12:05 This involves very, very serious consequences if we get all this wrong. You've got a nuclear-powered enemy invading a foreign country. People are dying. This is serious stuff. It's not time for sarcasm or humor or anything like that. Folks, he wanted a security guarantee from the United States, which had not been pre-negotiated. You don't negotiate that then in front of the media with a Belgian Malinois on a pit ball.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You just don't, President Trump and JD Vance. You just don't do that. It is incredibly disrespectful. So for all of the folks in the media, both on the center right and the left wing media that are criticizing President Trump and Vice President Vance, are you aware of what happened or are you just ignoring it? Because it's fascinating how many articles
Starting point is 00:13:01 where you criticize President Trump and Vice President Vance, you acknowledge that this shouldn't have happened in front of the media. It did happen in front of the media and you don't renegotiate a deal with cameras on in the Oval Office. So that's point number one. He acknowledges in the Brett Baer interview, we shouldn't have done this in front of the media, but I don't want to apologize. You can't have it both ways. You understand? Divorce the emotions. That was an unquestioned negative one for everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And it is without a doubt, I place the blame there on President Zelensky for the reasons I just laid out. You can disagree with him. That's fine. I still have my political opinion hat on for a couple of weeks. You're allowed to have a different one. It's a free country the second takeaway Folks I found Evita I don't know if you evita's bit of it is in the studio too here today after her amazing show this morning, but
Starting point is 00:14:01 rumble comm slash evita by the way for her show I morning but rumble.com slash Evita by the way for her show. I found this part to be the most offensive. Now again I'm trying to divorce the emotions but you know having lost an uncle that I was not alive when he died but in Vietnam who died heroically you can read his story his name is Gregory Ambrose he was shot in the back rescuing his friends. He was shot in the back not in Tuscaloosa. He was shot in the back in a place called Thu Duc Vietnam so when you know Heroes like my uncle and my grandfather who made it back from World War two, but named my father John After his battle buddy in World War two died in the Battle of the Bulge. I find it a little bit offensive when a president of a foreign country, we have
Starting point is 00:14:49 provided untold intelligence, weaponry, hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money we're working for. When you come into the Oval Office and you say quote, there's a nice ocean between us, yeah it's a beautiful ocean that's been crossed many times by heroic American military men, women and support personnel, many who've been left six feet under the ground buried in graves across that ocean. So I'm really sorry, man, but you going into the Oval Office and talking about a nice ocean as if the United States has been sitting on its ass for 200 years not saving the world over and over and over again while our kids and our young men come home in body bags if they come home at all.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I think you should really seriously reevaluate that. That is such historical naivete to the point where it's really hard for the first time in a while for me to not be a hypocrite here and incorporate emotions into this. You want to talk about a minus one? There's a nice ocean between us. Did you miss the whole Reagan negotiation? By the way, the entire collapse of the soviet empire which decimated ukraine the famine look it up if in case you're someone who doesn't like me and you're historically naive look up what happened to ukraine with the famine that wasn't us that was the soviet union why is the soviet union no more anybody know because of. Because of what we did.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Because of what Reagan did. And presidents before and after. It wasn't just Reagan. We were the ones who through significant military buildup and fighting and death and destruction around the world, we were the ones who did that. So President Zelensky, you don't have to listen to me. I'm not a citizen of your country. I'm not a political advisor.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I'm not even a political person at all in a couple weeks. I'm just telling you as an American citizen, you've got people out there right now, including my congressman in this district. His name's Brian Mast. He has no legs. He didn't lose them to infection. He didn't lose them to gangrene or athlete's foot.
Starting point is 00:17:14 He had his legs blown off. You know where? Across the nice ocean, in a foreign land, by a bomb that he was trying to defuse. So you just may want to re-evaluate that perspective. Kind of hard to get back to plus one minus one when I hear something like that. When I heard him say that, I'll tell you, I asked producer Jim, because it was all happening live on the radio show, I said, can you rewind that? I want to be sure he said that. You have a nice ocean, as if we were,
Starting point is 00:17:48 as if this country was birthed yesterday. You understand the history of this country? The heroic history of revolution against the British empire, where the possibilities of us winning that war were 10,000 to one. You know who our forefathers were? This is a country of heroes and patriots. Don't talk to us like we're little kids here, as if we haven't defended
Starting point is 00:18:13 democracy around the world for a long time. I suggest you go back on one of these shows. I don't care who it is, Brett Baer or Baer-Bred. And you don't only apologize to President Trump, but you apologize to the American people. No one wants to see you lose this war, nobody. But there has to be some path to peace that doesn't involve the piling up of body bags.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Okay. So, let me just play this one too, because I would before we go to take a quick break here. Here is President Zelensky discussing the future relationship with President Trump suggesting it can be salvaged. Again, without some kind of rapprochement here and some recognition of what happened in the Oval Office. I'm not so sure that's the case.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But check this out. Do you think your relationship with Donald Trump, President Trump, after today can be salvaged? Can be? Yes, of course, because it's relations more than to the President. The historical relations, strong relations between our people. And that's why I always began to thank your people, from our people. And this is the most important. And of course, thankful to the President, and of course to Congress,
Starting point is 00:19:39 but first of all to your people. Your people helped to save our people. People, the first. Human rights, the first. This is very, very important. And we are thankful and sorry for this. I mean, this, we wanted very much to have all these strong relations and I very calm that we will have it. There's a lot going on there. And by the way, this apology that I'm suggesting is not an apology for the sake of an apology. It's not some kind of chest puffing thing. Zelensky needs to understand that the American people are a very diverse group of people
Starting point is 00:20:17 with different views on Ukraine. You're asking President Trump to sell the American people on a continued vision of support. You think this is the last image they want the American people to see? Come on, man, I shouldn't, I'm just one guy in a studio sitting here with a staff here of less than 10 people. Do I have to explain this to you?
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's not how this works. All right, let me take a quick break, get back to the show. Folks, the average person today is feeling the financial strain now more than ever. Expenses are up, wages are in keeping pace, and many people are finding it nearly impossible to make ends meet. With little left after covering the basics, it's no surprise that many are resorted to credit cards just to get by, often carrying high balances and interest rates in the 20s
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Starting point is 00:22:43 that we are a constitutional republic. We are not a direct democracy. We are what a constitutional republic is a form of a representative democracy. In other words, in a direct democracy, people vote on everything, everything. It's not a practical way to run a country this size. So our founders chose this other system, a republic, which is a beautiful system. We love it, but it's a form of representative democracy.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It also, it means however, that there needs to be the political will to do something. People in the United States voters, by the way, in both parties, more Republican than Democrat. And you know, cue up that Harry M thing. I'm gonna play that next, go ahead and order a little bit. I'll show you the polling on this. You need the political will to keep this going because this country operates by consent of the governed. So Zelensky needs to understand that,
Starting point is 00:23:32 that what happened in the Oval was a disaster. I don't care what the media says, right-leaning media or left-leaning media. There are so many people, just go to Twitter. There are so many people upset about this. Just look on Twitter. I mean, it's not an official polling sample. I'll get you that in a second in case you think I'm just throwing Twitter examples out there. The polling behind this is not great either. He needs to understand that. He's putting President Trump in a bad position. But second, there's a threat in this too with the nice ocean thing. I was just kind of discussing this with Evita. What's going on here and you're seeing with this class picture, you know, Vio that if
Starting point is 00:24:06 you could, the class picture of President Zelensky visiting the EU and other European Union countries afterwards, which is fine. This is not a problem, by the way. This is great. But the implied threat here, especially from the EU, which you've seen with Germany and others, which shouldn't happen, is, hey, you know what? We don't need you guys. We're kind of do are
Starting point is 00:24:25 going to do our own thing well i'm not sure that's the case i'm not sure that's the case this is a problem that's been addressed by the way by republican and democrat lawmakers under republican and democrat presidents in the past where there's been this schism you can look it up between old and new Europe. They don't all feel the same way. You are going to need us and yes we need you too. The European Union is a massive trading partner for the United States. You can't think about this with simple minds but you've seen it especially if you view the commentary from Germany and others and even out of France. There's this kind of implied threat that not only is there this new Europe, old Europe, but there's a new US, old US, and a new US we don't need as much. You absolutely are going to need us, but this is your backyard. That's just
Starting point is 00:25:18 a geographic fact. It's not an insult to the EU countries. this is your backyard. Russia is a bigger geographic problem location-wise for you than it is for us. It's still a problem for us. We get that. But we need you to step up. The security umbrella for the United States has been a generational, obviously a thing for us through NATO and other alliances, but you need the political will to keep it going. Here's CNN again, in case you think I'm making this up. This is why this apology and a repairing of this relationship, if it's even possible, is going to have to start from Zelensky in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You got to develop the support with the American people before President Trump moves. Check this out. Republicans on the Russia UkraineUkraine war. Look at this. Want a quick end of the war, but Russia still keeps the captured land from Ukraine. Look at this. Look at the majority of Republicans. 74%, three quarters of Republicans near unanimity on that particular subject compared to just
Starting point is 00:26:19 25% who say that they support Ukraine's fight, even if it means a longer lasting war. The bottom line is this, is it's very clear, very, very clear that Republicans want an end to this war. They are willing for Ukraine to give up that land that Russia currently has. They do not want this war extended. And I think what we saw yesterday in the White House was a clear illustration of that Republican point of view. Donald Trump representing Republicans well on this issue.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Folks, receipts matter, okay? Evidence matters. We are in a republic, you get the point. You have to build political capital for these things. I'm not sure Zelinsky understood that, as people may have, but he made a catastrophic error here. Here's Marco Rubio, which again, plus ones, minus ones, I think he did an amazing job explaining this.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Here's Rubio, Secretary Rubio, just about a week ago, explaining why President Trump is upset with Zelensky. For those out there putting out the narrative that this was a, like some planned assault on Zelensky and the Oval Office. That's just not true. I'm telling you from multiple sources, multiple sources. I've read publicly, by the way, that was not the intention of the Oval Office meeting. It was just to sign the deal. It was Zelensky who turned it negative with the Nice Oceans comment and then suggesting that diplomacy questioning J.D. Vance, Vice President Vance, on what diplomacy was. Here's a week ago Secretary Rubio
Starting point is 00:27:48 explaining why President Trump's upset with Zelensky. Check this out. I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky and in some cases, and rightfully so. Look, number one, Joe Biden had frustrations with Zelensky. People shouldn't forget it. There are newspaper articles out there about how he cursed at him in a phone call because Zelensky, instead of saying thank you for all your help, is immediately out there messaging what we're not doing or what he's not getting. I think the second thing is, frankly, I was personally very upset because we had a conversation with President Zelensky, the vice president and I, the two, three of us, and we discussed this issue about the mineral rights and we explained to them,
Starting point is 00:28:22 look, we want to be in joint venture with you, not because we're trying to steal from your country, but because we think that's actually a security guarantee. If we're your partner in an important economic endeavor, we get to get paid back some of the money the taxpayers have given, close to $200 billion. And it also, now we have a vested interest in the security of Ukraine. And he said, sure, we want to do this deal. It makes all the sense in the world. The only thing is, I need to run it
Starting point is 00:28:46 through my legislative process. They have to approve it. I read two days later that Zelensky's out there saying, I rejected the deal. I told him, no way that we're not doing that. Well, that's not what happened in that meeting. So you start to get upset by somebody. We're trying to help these guys.
Starting point is 00:28:59 One of the points the president made in his messaging is not that we don't care about Ukraine, but Ukraine is on another continent. It doesn't directly impact the daily lives of Americans. We care about it because it has implications for our allies and ultimately for the world. There should be some level of gratitude here about this. When you don't see it and you see him out there accusing the president of living in a world of disinformation, that's highly, very counterproductive.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The chat's going wild on this by the way. I'm reading all your comments watching this. Folks, this is a master class interview right here. This is a huge plus one. There are two things, two takeaways from that interview, which I'm sure a lot of you in the chat caught. And this is why this is perfect right here, this interview. is perfect right here, this interview. Number one, President Trump knows that there is, there may not be the political will in this republic right now for a direct security guarantee. Follow me here.
Starting point is 00:29:54 In other words, we will put US troops on the ground. He understands for many of you, I'm reading your chat comments right now, that that's a no-go. So he understands this is going to have to be message. That's what happens in politics. So did you hear what Rubio said there, Secretary Rubio? Well, if we can engage in this joint venture
Starting point is 00:30:15 where at least the American people feel like they're being paid back for their efforts with these critical rare earth minerals, which are called rare earth minerals because they're rare What he's saying is did you hear what he said there that we have a security interest then in Preserving this economic benefit which will assist both countries. Do you get kind of the winky winky nod nod? Where Zelinsky must have missed this somehow and then the second part
Starting point is 00:30:47 Secretary Rubio's crystal clear referencing, quote, the American taxpayer. He's telling you exactly what I just told you, that if you don't understand these Ukrainian lawmakers and the president of Ukraine, that the taxpayers, this is a consent of the governed country, are ultimately in charge and you don't understand political messaging, then there's really nothing left to talk about. Brilliant interview. Sometimes this international diplomacy in front of the camera, like you just saw with Secretary Rubio, is best conducted by
Starting point is 00:31:18 saying things without saying them. Do you get what I'm saying? Zelensky didn't understand that. He just said it. And you never got in trouble for things you didn't say. The best advice I ever got in media, which applies in diplomacy as well, there's an expletive in it, but whatever. Nobody ever got in trouble for shutting them up. Okay? You never get in trouble for something you don't say. Major, major diplomatic disaster for him. A lot of people, a lot of people out there, we're
Starting point is 00:31:53 very, very proud of them, our president, vice president for standing up for the interests of our country. Can't let that happen in our Oval Office. Quick break here, we'll get back to the show. I got more for you here, including a GB news anchor who just, one of my favorite, probably my favorite cut of the entire show, just tears it up explaining this situation. This is great. Last break. Hey, during tax season, your sensitive information does a lot of traveling to places you can't control, stopping off at a payroll, your accountant or tax preparer, accountless other data centers
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Starting point is 00:33:47 views, text Dan to 989898. Let the experts at Birch Gold help you secure your future today with gold message and data rates reply. So thank you Birch Gold. This is one of my favorite cuts of the day, maybe my favorite in a while here. Here's a GB news anchor, Matthew Goodwin. He's explaining the Trump and Ukraine situation to a BBC panel, and he really seems to get what's going on. If you blind yourself, if you can, if it's possible, to the subjective, I hate Trump nonsense on the left, and you really try to figure out what really happened, you know
Starting point is 00:34:21 this gentleman, Matthew Goodwin, is right. Check this out. A lot of people who like to start wars are suddenly very angry with one guy who wants to stop this war. And there are people who have taken us into one disaster after another, war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, who have spent much of today on social media attacking Trump. What we're seeing, I think, is a reset of today on social media attacking Trump. What we're seeing, I think, is a reset of geopolitics, a reset. We're seeing the breakdown of what you might call the international liberal world
Starting point is 00:34:52 order, which saw 20, 30 years of one foreign policy disaster after another. And Trump, you know, was at the inauguration in America. And people around the president are basically saying, they've had enough of that constant interventionism. They've had enough of Europe, by the way, again, maybe a controversial point, but Europe not paying its way on defense. And they've looked to Germany, they've looked to France, they've looked to Italy, they've looked to the UK. And they said, you know, what are you guys doing? You know, take Germany as an example Germany under the Greens
Starting point is 00:35:28 Absolutely bonkers becoming more dependent upon Russia because of its ridiculous energy policy Becoming more dependent upon China and then turning around and criticizing Donald Trump when he says we've got to end this war I mean, I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense anymore Folks in the chat come come on, give me some feedback. Are you feeling about that audio video clip like I am? That guy just nailed it. You see what he's saying? Exactly what I told you before. Obviously, we have an interest in what happens in Russia, Ukraine all over the world. The United States has relationships everywhere. The question is not do we have
Starting point is 00:36:08 an interest or not. It's who has a greater interest? And this GB News guest, Matthew Goodman, just nails it. To Germany and other countries in the EU, that is right there. Russia is there. You have countries over there that are, this is your actual geopolitical backyard. And he mentions Germany. This is a really significant problem where you have this this green movement in Germany, which has gotten away and into all these green New Deal type technologies. Many of them, which require electrification of the economy, electrification of their vehicle fleet. You see their Volkswagen struggling over there. Other German companies, they get away from gas diesel powered cars, right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 And what's the problem? They require a lot of these cars, rare earth minerals, lithium and other things, which ironically they're going to have to rely on places like China to get. So it's really hard for folks like Matthew, me and others to accept the lecture on defending democracy when you're moving your economy in a green direction that depends more on the CCP. Anyone dispute that? Folks, the left in in this country and around the world is does not I suggest you kind of lick your finger and see where the political winds are going because the Schatz doctrine
Starting point is 00:37:42 named for Senator Brian Schatz, who is a a democrat the Schatz doctrine, named for Senator Brian Schatz, who is a Democrat, the Schatz doctrine of continue to do liberal stuff and just talk about it differently is not going to work because doing that stuff leads to X outcome and X outcome is not good. Here's what I mean. They just don't seem to have gotten the electoral lesson that came out of 2024. Here's Governor JD Pritzker. He seems to think that messaging is the problem. That's not what I just said to you. The point I'm trying to make is you can talk however you want about a policy. You can use whatever euphemisms you want. Say defund the police. You can talk about it how Joe Biden did when he was running for office where he said,
Starting point is 00:38:30 whatever is it, reallocating funds. Talk about it however you want. In the end, it results in the destruction of local police forces because you're moving money away from enforcing crime in the street. You can talk about that all you want. Eventually crime is going to go up. It's not a messaging problem. It's a policy problem. I'll prove it to you in a second. Listen to this clip first from J.D. Pritzker
Starting point is 00:38:56 and you'll see how this is going to be a huge problem for the Democrats going forward. Check this out. Do you think that Democrats have lost touch with the working class voters? And do you have any suggestions as to how they could potentially start to remedy that? Yeah, what I don't think is that we should change the fundamental policies of the Democratic Party to move to the right to try to address this.
Starting point is 00:39:17 The problem in the last election was messaging. Honestly, we have the right position. I'll give you an example. We're for raising the minimum wage. That's your argument right now? You really believe raising the minimum wage is what's going to alter the trajectory of the Democrat Party, which lost all seven swing states? Come on, you can't be serious about that.
Starting point is 00:39:36 This is not a stupid guy. Okay? Policy wise, ideologically, the guy could not be more wrong. But this is not a, he doesn't really believe this. Folks, I said I was going to explain this. If you really believe that, and you're JD Pritzker, right? Governor Pritzker. If you really believe that it's a messaging problem and not a policy problem, then why
Starting point is 00:40:00 do you keep using euphemisms to describe your policy problems? Why not just talk about them directly? If the policies are so popular, then why are you so concerned about the messaging? I'll give you a quick example. When the MAGA crowd talks about tax cuts, that's exactly what we mean. There's no euphemisms for it. No one talks about it like, financial haircut on the marginal tax rate side and the income ban. People don't talk like that. They say, yeah, we like tax cuts. Why? Because
Starting point is 00:40:30 we want the American people to spend more of their money. You can message it all you want. The policy is popular. It's a huge mistake. President Trump, again, has a unique way to cut through this. He put up this true social post. We should spend less time worrying about Putin and more time worrying about migrant rape gangs, drug lords, murderers, and people from mental institutions entering our country so that we don't end up like Europe. This is what, he's not saying Putin's not a problem,
Starting point is 00:41:00 he said that many times. He's just suggesting to you that there are issues that bleed for the American people, meaning they feel them. They feel them every day, like actually feel them. You know, I hate the word literally. I keep saying it because I hate the word so much. It's ironic that I keep saying, I hate that. I say, get it out of your head.
Starting point is 00:41:17 These things, they, inflation, which has been a four plus year problem we've been dealing with, it's not going to be solved overnight. I've said that many times. The border, which is just open border, which has ravaged American communities. These are the kind of things that are directly impacting the lives of the American people. If you really believe on the left in this Schatz doctrine that keep doing left-wing stuff like Men in the women's room and men in in girls sports People are gonna notice Then this happened this weekend, this is absolutely unexplainable
Starting point is 00:42:00 These are a series of Boston officials including the mayor These are a series of Boston officials, including the mayor. There was this attack this weekend by a suspect with a knife. Off-duty police officer engages. Now you would think, number one, you'd at least let the investigation kind of materialize and the facts come out. Apply the Bongino rule, right? Facts matter. Before you made a public comment about it.
Starting point is 00:42:24 But imagine being the leader of a great city like Boston. And coming out in front of the cameras, and your first comments are to express condolences to the suspect in the case with the knife, rather than what appears to be a rather heroic incident by people involved, including heroism by the off-duty police officer. Your first comments are condolences for the other guy?
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, this actually happened. Check this out. My condolences and all of our thoughts are with the family of the individual whose life has been lost. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the individual who's been lost. So our condolences go to the individual who was killed tonight. Justin just said to me, Dan, you know, every time conservatives and Republicans send thoughts and prayers, which they mean we're actually thinking about people and we pray for them. Yes, we do pray for people.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I do it all the time. Matter of fact, I asked for your prayers and guidance going forward, and I'm not even remotely ashamed about that and never will. I'm actually proud of that. I thought they didn't like thoughts of prayers. But when it comes to a suspect in the case, in a violent crime, quote, all of their condolences, that was the mayor, all,
Starting point is 00:43:58 go to the suspect. Folks, I don't, you know, the interesting part about this show is this whole life change event happens for me. I enjoy doing the commentary. I'm going to miss it. But the commentary part is an addition to the substance. The substance is just easy to find. You know what I'm saying? I don't need to make up
Starting point is 00:44:26 what the mayor of Boston said. I can just play it like that actually happened. Right. What about the guy, you know, what about the off duty police officer who by the way was off duty, didn't ask for any of this. What about that person? When we were going through the rundown, I said this one's really hard to believe. Again, going back to just to tie this back to Zelinsky in the beginning, you never get in trouble for things you don't say. Maybe just best to say we're still gathering the facts. It's a terrible incident.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We will report as they come in, but here's what we know so far. Maybe just stick to that. Just an idea. Here's the Massachusetts governor, Mary Healy, talking about, I mean, Massachusetts is a wonderful state. You ever been up there?
Starting point is 00:45:27 In Boston and New York, they have this baseball rivalry. But I'm going to tell you, having worked with many Boston Secret Service agents in my last line of work, the greatest guys, you all know who you are too. I mean, there was a crew of them and they were the best. Massachusetts is a great state. Boston's an amazing city. But imagine being represented by Governor Healey, who is being overrun again by sanctuary city
Starting point is 00:45:52 illegal immigration policies. They support the liberals over there. And then blaming Republicans for using immigration as a scare tactic. You see the fake kind of 180 they're trying to do here to flip the argument and tell you a story rather than a story. It's not a scare tactic. It's real.
Starting point is 00:46:10 There are actually criminal aliens in our cities like Boston doing bad stuff. Listen to this. One of the most visible strategies Republican governors adopted during the height of the migrant crisis was sending buses and planes of migrants to blue states like yours. Very memorably, Martha's Vineyard, it was a stunt, but you could argue that it worked. It made immigration enforcement into a blue state issue, which it had not been. Shouldn't it always have been though? Is it not fair to say that Democrats really did not take this issue seriously? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I mean, I don't see it that way. I think Democrats in Congress were the ones who time after time were pushing for immigration reform. And that's what I saw. It was a stunt. It was a stunt what happened. I think it you know The buses the buses to New York to Illinois to Colorado I think the Republicans did a really effective job of making this an issue and frankly of scaring a lot of people
Starting point is 00:47:19 Did I find this I find this line of reasoning by the way, I don't want to forget this, I got an Adam Schiff thing coming up. It's not part of the show guys, don't worry about it. I just thought about it. I find this line of reasoning, anywhere ranging from absurd to ridiculous. It was a stunt. Well, what was the stunt?
Starting point is 00:47:38 When did the buses and the Martha's Vineyard incident from Florida regarding illegal immigrants, when did that happen? Folks in the chat, who was the president? Okay, it was Joe Biden. So I don't understand what the stunt was. If you were so proud of the open border, you did nothing to solve that, by the way, President Trump solved in less than 30 days. Just look at the numbers. I thought you couldn't solve it. If you were so proud of the open border, which you were, you publicly said one thing, but behind the scenes, make no mistake, you publicly said one thing, but
Starting point is 00:48:05 behind the scenes, make no mistake, you did everything you could to facilitate the flow of people violating the law into the country. If you were so proud of it, then I don't understand why it was a stunt to take some of those people from a congested illegal immigrant population in Texas, geographically on the border, and relocate them into places where you say you want them sanctuary cities and elsewhere I don't understand what the stunt is I'm not trying to be an asshole I'm just telling you what's the stunt seriously what's the stunt you should celebrate this why were the
Starting point is 00:48:38 citizens of Martha's Vineyard elsewhere so eager to remove people they said they supported. The stunt was only on your end, not on our end. We just highlighted what you were doing, opening the border. You say you're a sanctuary city, provide sanctuary. Why should Texas have to support everyone? They don't have the resources. I said I was going to address this to it. It was interesting this weekend, I was sitting around and do you guys see the video that Adam Schiff put out?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Incredible. I mean, you want to talk about the nerve. A guy knee deep in the collusion hoax, the laptop hoax, a bunch of documented frauds on the American people puts out a video. He seems very upset about what's happening with me and my career and moving on. And it was interesting, he took some cuts of the show. So yeah, he took some actual cuts of the show, which were actually pretty good cuts too. So, you know, I'm just gonna say again, people reaching out that I have a show, I'm proud of the show, I love my show, and I guess we have a lot of new guests today
Starting point is 00:49:44 too. People apparently watching this, we get a lot of new guests today too. People apparently watching this, we get a lot of media people. So I still have a couple opportunities here to slide in some political opinions. And yeah, I'm proud of my show and what we did. So feel free to use them. We can do like super cuts and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Maybe music videos if you wanna throw some music in there. I'm gonna play this other cut for you. Cause here's another. Yeah, feel free. I'm not much of a singer, but we try. Here's Hakeem Jeffries. Again, this is another one talking about, leader of the Democrats, of course, on the House side, talking about Republicans in this parade of horribles. The only party putting out there a parade of horribles, grandma's gonna die, you know, young kids are gonna die,
Starting point is 00:50:23 diseases are gonna run rampant, puppies are gonna die, young kids are gonna die, diseases are gonna run rampant, puppies are gonna die, are the Democrats? But watch them do this euphemisms 180 flip-a-roo here and try to pretend it's us doing this as we repair all the damage done in the last four years. Check this out. What we've seen from the Trump administration over the last several weeks
Starting point is 00:50:40 is just a flood of unprecedented extremism and a parade of horribles that continue to be unleashed on the American people. While at the same time, the Trump administration is not focused on solving the problems of everyday Americans. We're continuing to make sure that we focus on trying to make life better for everyday Americans. Fundamentally, that's why we were sent to Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:51:06 We have to drive down the high cost of living. We have to secure the border. We have to keep communities safe. We have to protect our dreamers and farm workers and families. These are the things that matter. Parade of horribles? What parade of horribles? I'm unsure.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Listen, I'm going to be candid with you, okay, where we are. Inflation is a persistent problem. We should not do what they did to us and pretend inflation wasn't an issue when it's a Democrat. And I'd be like, oh, Donald Trump did it. He's in office 30 days. I said to you before the election, and I'll say now, it is a difficult problem to solve.
Starting point is 00:51:38 There is a ton of US debt out there. The money supply is rather large. We're going to, if Fed policy is integrated with this, it's not an easy problem. I've been totally candid with you. The border, however, yes, we still are suffering through four years of an open border of millions of people in the country illegally. The border problem, nothing's ever solved, but is as close to fixed as you're ever going to see. Just look at the numbers. It's only been 30 days.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So what parade of horribles are you talking about? Help is coming for law enforcement. You can see with the direction, Secretary Noem and others are taken, Director Patel, me in the coming weeks, deadly serious about keeping this homeland safe. AG Panbondi, this is how this is gonna go down. So what parade of horribles are you talking about? Only parade of horribles is coming through you All right, folks, thanks again for tuning in we'll be on the radio show today It's on rumble at noon in just a few minutes if you want to watch that it's rumble comm slash bunge you know
Starting point is 00:52:44 Make sure you give a Evita's show a follow in the 9 a.m. hour rumble.com slash Evita, E-V-I-T-A. She tore it up this morning. You met Haley. I hope you liked her. You're gonna love her show going forward. Launching STAT, I will give you a date. I'll give you a URL on Rumble coming very, very, very soon.
Starting point is 00:53:05 You can check out updates at silverlock.com, silver L-O-C-H. That is Haley Caranaga, glad you met her. And you know, I'm never late for the show, but she filled it anyway. That was my idea, by the way, my little crazy. Should I not have done that? I called Michael yesterday. I'm like, Michael, what do you think of this?
Starting point is 00:53:21 He's like, yeah, go for it, man. It's your show, do what you want. Thanks for tuning in, folks. See you It's your show, do what you want. Thanks for tuning in, folks. See you on the radio show here in a little bit and back here live tomorrow at 11 a.m. Eastern time. See you then. You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.

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