The Dan Bongino Show - The Most Important Story Of Our Time (Ep. 2594)

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 All America all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for The Dan Bongino Show. Oh, it was a busy week. I am so glad to be back in the studio with you all. And I'm not going to do a big long weekend or week update with you. But I will say this, just for those of you out there who probably already know this in advance. You know, it's really difficult sometimes to not, you know, to lose the kind of forest or to not lose the forest. You want to focus on like what's right in front of you.
Starting point is 00:00:37 The tree, don't worry about the whole forest all at one time is what I'm getting at. And it's difficult to do that because there's so much going on in the forest, it's easy to get distracted. And you're worried about what's going to happen tomorrow when next week and next year and all this. And what happened yesterday. I am not, it's not a book club here. However, that guy Eckert told whatever you think of him ever. He wrote that book, The Power of Now. And forget the book for a second, but the essence of what he's saying is true.
Starting point is 00:01:05 You live in the Now. Yesterday already happened. So there's nothing you can do about it. And tomorrow hasn't happened yet. So you worrying about tomorrow forfeiting the Now is insane. I say that because this weekend I had some family in town. And was it Saturday night? We're all sitting around, sharing a glass of,
Starting point is 00:01:24 wine with my, my sister-in-law, my niece and nephew and my wife and my daughter, and we're listening to music and we're watching the Texas Ohio State. I'm not a fan of either team, so it didn't matter to me. My nephew's a huge Texas fan, watches this big comeback. So for all you Texas fans, you know, hook them, you did a good job. Ohio State fans didn't really work out. But it was just like, this is the stuff that really matters. It really matters. Chilling and hanging out with your family and like just having a good time for a good time sake. I got a lot to talk about today. Someone in the chat asked me right before the show.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I saw it. Dan, what was the most important story or is the most important story of our time? That's the title of the show today. I'll answer it for you because I hate teases. Artificial intelligence, folks. We're going to do a what we always do show today. We're going to apply the Bongino rule,
Starting point is 00:02:20 which is we're going to take 20, to 72 hours to process everything that was said over the weekend from one side, we're all going to die to the other side saying, hey, nothing to worry about here. We're not doing any of that. We're going to split the middle, and we're going to do what we've always done. We're not falling for the current thing. We're going to hold. And we're going to discuss this because it is the single most important technological development
Starting point is 00:02:51 of our time up there with electricity. flight, nuclear power, maybe more powerful than all of them. By the end of today's show, I've got a lot to talk about. I think you're going to be comfortable with where we are. But we're not getting into doomerism
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Starting point is 00:05:43 appreciate all your patience next week uh last week excuse me thank you so much so arthur c clark had a famous quote that has stood the test of time. It's about any sufficiently advanced technology is going to be, as you see at first, indistinguishable from magic. It just is. Ladies and gentlemen, apply it to anything. When people first saw electricity
Starting point is 00:06:07 or learned about radio frequency, traveling through the air, they must have been like, how the hell are you talking on that cell phone? There's no wire. Where's it going? It looked like magic. Presto changeo.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Hocus, rabbit out of the hat. It must be real. He created a rabbit out of the hat. The rabbit was there the whole time. Think about the, in context of this, think about what the Aztecs and others, when they first saw these, you know, massive ships and the Incas and others,
Starting point is 00:06:41 you know, coming over, Cortez and all, they must have been like, look at these floating castles. They must have come down from the head. Evans. What is, that's incredible. It looks like magic. And it scares people. Folks, artificial intelligence scares people too. And this weekend, you know, I told you about when I was a young protection agent protecting presidents, one of the worst things you could do is an agent. What's the line? P1's in the chat. Never hit the bed. Hit the bed. Put an S in front of you.
Starting point is 00:07:18 give me don't crap the bed don't do it because panic kills if you start running around like a chicken with its head cut off at a presidential security site screaming about a balloon popping i promise you're going to be fired the next day don't crap the bed don't hit the bed s in front of it or not don't hit it either this weekend like it seems like the whole internet melted down we're all gonna die Reverend Kane-style polterge. We're all. Hold. Hold. Hold.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Everyone with me. This is the most important show we've done at a long time. This is what we do here. What we do with AI and how we handle it is the most important story of our time because ladies and gentlemen, I can make it very strong case to you.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That even with nuclear and electricity and flight, kitty hawk, that this is the most powerful technology we've ever dealt with. We're introducing what is essentially now an infant into our, an alien infant into our society with intelligence powers we don't fully understand.
Starting point is 00:08:47 We must get this right. But getting it right, just like executing a successful presidential security plan requires people not to panic and hit the bed. You hit the bed, you're not going to think straight. So what happened this weekend? Well, first I want to say, it's great news that now the debate about what we do with AI and how we handle it is now fully spilled out into the public. This is a great development. This is a republic. This place, this place we call the United States on this rock we call Earth is governed by consent to the governed.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's you, that's me, Justin, Andrew, everyone else. We run this place. It's fantastic that people are talking about it. So this happened. This is the couple of, they were three posts that set the world on fire. They were from three huge AI Titans of AI. Here's a summary by Orlando Avondano. The three great Titans of AI, Dario Amodi from Anthropic,
Starting point is 00:09:52 Sam Altman from Open AI and Elon Musk's from SpaceX AI agreed today for the first time in years that it's urgent to slow down the pace of AI until safety and control safeguards are established. They post it on X. It's a defining day for the future of humanity. But one leg of the table is missing. China. Now, folks, I don't see any here of the posts if you'd like to look at them. Dario, we must paste the frontier.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You have Elon, you have Sam Altman, basically, I agree. Elon saying Dario is right. Sam Altman saying, I agree with Dario. We have to pace the frontier. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't understand first what's really controversial. I get that there are perceived conflicts of interest in this. I told you I am an investor in the tech space myself. It is actually against my financial interest to argue for slowing things.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I don't care. I care about humanity. I care about the number one rule of Dan Bongino show, which is don't get dead. Okay? Poor he almost got dead last week, and he made it. So we don't want to get dead. So we're going to talk about this,
Starting point is 00:11:04 and we're going to give both sides. And we're going to let, this is crazy thing before journalists became lunatics. We're going to give you both sides, and we're going to let you use your more than competent brains to make your own decision. Because this is consent to the government, and this show operates by consent of the viewers, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:22 I want you to go and figure it out yourself. I'll give an opinion here or there, but we should have a reasonable conversation. So again, I don't really understand what the huge controversy and why all the panic broke out. If you have Anthropic Open AI and Elon Musk saying, hey, let's like chill a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This is a great tech. and figure out some guardrails, I don't, I don't get what the controversy is. Let's give an analogy because it's really easy that way. The essence of their statement is not controversial. Yes, there's conflicts everywhere. I understand that. That's the nature of being human. Are they trying to wipe out open source?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Or they regulatory capture, I get it. We're going to get into all that, I promise. We're not going to leave any of that as if it doesn't exist. However, the essence of the statement is not controversial. Let's give another analogy first. Forget AI for a second because I want to make this simple because analogies are easy ways to tell stories. The first time we flew where people actually,
Starting point is 00:12:28 customers got on the first flights, there was a first flight somewhere was commercially available. Did you want to get on that plane the first time with no guardrails or safety? You do not. Nor would you want an AI system with super intelligence to be operating when you don't understand. if it's telling you the truth being truthful or not operating against humanity.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Do you want the first nuclear power plant going up in your neighborhood that has no safety controls? You do not. What if we just built electricity in every single household without understanding proper insulation and we burn everyone else? That's a really bad idea. It doesn't mean electricity sucks. It doesn't mean nuclear power sucks. And it certainly doesn't mean flying and planes suck.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It just means technology like everything else in this complicated place we live in, call Earth, has tradeoffs. Here was a clip that won nuclear this weekend from Dario Modai from Anthropic talking about what he perceives to be the problem. And we're going to go to some clips of President Trump, who I think is the leader we need at this time who's like, hey, buddy, I'm a transactional guy. Show me what works. Show me what doesn't.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We'll find the middle. I love how they all trashed President Trump. He seems to be the only guy in a room sometimes with common sense. But play Dario first, because I want to give his perspective that led to this whole thing about slowing down until we figure out exactly what's going on. Check this out. This technology is on an exponential, right? It's like you have one, then two, then four, then eight, then 16, then 32. But even as I was saying that to myself, I don't think I fully just appreciated what it would actually be like when the progress was as fast as it was.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So an exponential curve looks a little like this. Where are we on the curve? We're kind of on the bend where it's starting to get steeper. So is that a five alarm fire to you? What it means, it doesn't mean we need to panic today. It doesn't mean we need to shut it all down. What I would say, it's a warning sign. It's a warning sign that we need to slow down.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We need to make this technology carefully, and we need to make sure that the our safeguards, our ability to understand it, our ability to control it keeps up with the pace at which the technology is happening. Now, I want to throw this out there because it's really important. Elon Musk's tweet says, I agree. And Sam Altman, who's a competitor at OpenAI with Anthropic and Dario, is, these guys are not friend. I shouldn't say, maybe they are.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't know. but they're competitors. They're saying like, I'm selling a pet rock. No, I'm selling a better pet rock. And I'm selling a better pet rock. And now they're all saying, hey, I think pet rocks could be a good thing, but we should be careful. We don't want kids to throw them.
Starting point is 00:15:27 They're all agreeing with each other, even though it's not even in their best interest to do so. It's in their best interest to say, hey, that guy sucks, pick my product. So when they all speak together and say, hey, I think we should just slow down. This is a great idea, like electricity. However, you don't want to burn it.
Starting point is 00:15:44 the house down, I'm like, okay, sounds pretty good to me. Because there's a variable here in the original tweet that I think a lot of people are not considering that even if we, we being the United States, precision's going to matter in this show today, we're to shut this all off tomorrow and say, hey, this is not worth it. I don't even want to take a chance the house is burning down, unplug everything. that is not going to stop the rest of the world from developing technology. There is a thing in economics you need to understand called the Prisoner's Dilemma. The Prisoner's Dilemma is this very simply.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's a coordination problem. How is it that in a prison, roughly 20 prison guards can control 2,000 of the most violent people on earth? How is that? The answer is, they could break out any time. Why don't they overrun a prison every day? Because there's a penalty for failing if you don't overrun the prison. You'll have 10 years tacked on. And you can't guarantee that all 2,000 people are going to go along.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Hey, let's break out tomorrow 10, winky nod. And then all of a sudden one guy goes, George, and he's in it himself. And he gets locked up. And, you know, the 1,999 others are laughing. Ah, we were just kidding, moron. They can't coordinate well. We can't coordinate well with China because we don't trust China. So we could say tomorrow, hey, Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party,
Starting point is 00:17:19 you guys going to shut this thing off? Yes, sure. And then they develop it and wipe us out with a cyber attack. The world's not full of simple answers, man. We need leaders. We need leaders to say, this isn't simple. People telling you shut it off and then other people telling you do nothing. That's just stupid.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Both of those kind of fringe ideas are ridiculous. There's a middle ground. That is why I am always happy President Trump is in charge right now. I told you, and I mean it as a compliment, he is a transactional business guy. I'm building a building. What are the unions want? What are the bricklayers want? What are the electricians want?
Starting point is 00:17:56 What is the city want? What is the bureaucracy need? What are the local residents view this building as? How do I make money off this deal while I can pay my employees? He has to be transactional by nature. You want someone who balances inputs, doesn't freak out, doesn't do Reverend Kane, we're all going to die, and comes to a middle ground. That's the world, folks.
Starting point is 00:18:19 You already know this. You don't need some lecture from me. You do it with your kids all the time. I want to go out Saturday night until midnight. You can't go out Saturday night till midnight. You can come back at 9? Mom, can I come back at 10? Okay, we'll split the difference.
Starting point is 00:18:32 That's what parenting is. President Trump is the leader we have right now. here's a cut of him and I want you to listen how he's totally rational about this whole thing hey I'm concerned too guard rails are going to matter safety's going to matter but we just can't stop
Starting point is 00:18:48 because then we'll be attacked using the same technology it's like giving China the nuclear bomb and saying hey we don't get into weapons development because it's dangerous well no Sherlock you got to protect yourself too
Starting point is 00:19:04 check this out President Trump's position is that if the U.S. slows development to the point of losing the AI arms race with China, that any control that we could have had over a responsible future will have been lost. He spoke about this while in Ireland, then again aboard Air Force One. There's been so much concern about AI. Have you heard directly from any of these AI tech leaders? And you seem to downplay some of the concerns. No, I'm not downplay.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But it's going to be more good than bad, but by a lot. And I've said it, I've said it from the beginning. Whoever wins AI, and we're leading by a lot. Whoever wins, AI wins. You can use AI for a lot of things. The president is 100% correct. Thank you. Thank you to all the people who elected him right now,
Starting point is 00:19:49 that he's in charge in this pivotal moment in human history and not, God forbid, AOC or Kamala Harris, who would be giving a speech right now. Justin, you know the speech, you'd be like, and the bus, the school bus goes round to run, and let's not be burdened by the past. And that's all, that you'd be hearing endless cliches and platitudes
Starting point is 00:20:07 instead of a real leader. Oh, yes, you remember that? That's an actual Kamala Harris quote, another stroke of genius. Artificial intelligence is intelligence that's artificial. That's like that Ibram Kendi. Racism is a racist, de-racist thing. When you're using the words you're trying to define
Starting point is 00:20:25 in the definition, you have not defined it. You've just restated the exact same thing. thing. Now you've got a guy in charge who's getting the brief every single day, who is a transactional business guy who understands we have basically three options and only three options. Number one, we could stop this thing tomorrow in the United States, ban AI like Bernie Sanders and a lot of these lunatics want, ban potential cures for cancer, for HIV, for things that have plagued the freaking athlete's foot. I mean, stuff that's plagued us forever. Figure out business problems and math equations,
Starting point is 00:21:03 the greatest minds in the world haven't been able to figure out. What's that? Yeah, that math proof that it just figured out like 22 hours. We could forfeit all of this and stop it. I just explained to you, however, if we forfeit the AI race and slow it down and all of the enormous gains that can come from it, there is no guarantee in the prisoner's dilemma that China is going to coordinate with us. They're going to lie, and they're going to hit us with a cyber attack.
Starting point is 00:21:29 human beings can't possibly overcome. So stopping it, although an option, is really not an option. It's kind of like a Hobson's choice. What's a Hobson's choice? It's a fake choice. You can pick this horse or no horse at all. That's not a choice. He just told you you could pick that.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He made it framed it as a choice. So forget stopping it. That's not an option. We'll be dead. Trump knows this, the president. The second is what we've been discussing in the beginning of the show. maybe we should slow it down until we understand better how the tech works maybe implement small AI agents first that are better constrained that can work on cancer problems before we unleash it
Starting point is 00:22:11 onto the economy i don't understand what's crazy about that call me nuts it reminds me so forget stop it okay because i was i threw that in there as a hobson's choice but you get the point pace it number two you ever see the movie colors i may be aging myself again but it's really important colors Robert Deval and Sean Penn about the LAPD and the gang wars. Great movie. Even though I'm not a Sean Penn fan, great movie. And there's this young, brash cop. And only wants to do was lock up every gang member.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So they, Robert Deval, the senior cop is like, hey, we lock up every gang member. You know, they're not going to want to cooperate with us. So he says, let me tell you a quick story about the bull. Some of you know who I'm going with this. You guys don't. You're too young. You know I'm going with this in the chat? He's like, hey, youngling who wants to lock up everyone.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And right away. He was ever going to story about the bulls? You know, this young bulls at the top of the hill looking at all the cows and says to the dad bull, hey, dad, I'm going to run down and one of those cows. It rhymes with luck. And the dad says, how about you walk down? And the mall, I just think it's important, like electricity,
Starting point is 00:23:28 that before we wire the house, we make sure it's not going to be burned down and is insulated correctly. It's a crazy idea. Option three is rush it. A black swan event happens. A cyber attack. And I'll give you both sides because I'm not afraid of you making a decision on you. You're all smart people.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And I don't think people who are saying full steam ahead, no matter what, fully understand what that black swan event will look like. Because it's not good if we don't do this the way the president's saying. Here's President Trump part two of this, where he talks about the China problem. That number one option is not an option. It's a Hobson's choice because China will kill us. That's not an option. This is important.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Check this out. We're leading China in AI. We're most sophisticated country in the world. And frankly, I want to keep it that way because whoever wins AI wins. And we can quit guardrails. We can do this and that. But I think you have a lot of negative forces that are bringing it up. That shouldn't be bringing it up.
Starting point is 00:24:28 and they're bringing up things that won't happen. But whoever wins with AI wins. Folks, I can't say this enough. And, you know, I get this all the time. Like, you agree with President Trump. Stop, put the crack pipe down. I worked for President Trump. I admire him.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I do. It doesn't mean I'm blind to anything. I'm just telling you, thank the voting electorate in the United States that you've got a guy in charge who can balance inputs to produce a reasonable output who's not a nut like Kamala Harris or others. School bus going round and round. Intelligence.
Starting point is 00:25:04 That's artificial. We've got a guy in charge right now, President Trump, who totally gets it. I'm not going to let us get blown up by China. Kamala Harris be given you talking points. Again, I'm going to give you both sides. I'm going to give you next another guy in the tech space. And folks, it doesn't mean I'm endorsing any of these companies or their ideas. However, these are people who are working in the space.
Starting point is 00:25:30 If I want to hear about, you know, a transient ischemic attack, I'm going to go to a neurologist who understands blood clotting and blood loss in the brain. If I want to hear about the digital system in my car, I'm going to go to a mechanic. The guy next is from Palantir, some, like the company some. I don't care. The point is they're in this space. I want to hear what they have to say.
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Starting point is 00:29:20 All right, back to the show. This is Alex Carp from Palant here. making a counterpoint to the people who believe stopping AI right now, like Bernie Sanders, which I just told you is a Hobson's choice. We will all die. China will hit us as soon as we can without AI to fight back if we stop. This is Alex Karp suggesting the same thing, which you just heard from President Trump. So I'm just giving you a multitude of viewpoints.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm not necessarily endorsing anyone. I just want you to be able to formulate and be able to discuss this. So you and your family make your own decisions. Check this out. The adversaries we'd have, I would be very in favor of pausing this technology completely, but we do. And that's why pausing is just, you can't pause it because it's a structural advantage both for LLMs and algorithms. So leaving, how concerned are you about China right now? Everyone's very concerned.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I think we were in a conversation this morning where I referenced, you know, when we started first talking about China and America and and I was saying that this was not going to end well. That was a controversial statement. Now it's consensus. America is fairly unified in its idea that, you know, that China and people running China are not acting in a way we can accept. And I think the consensus, if I had to guess in China is, we're never going to get this back on the rails with America,
Starting point is 00:30:50 so we should up the aggression. Okay, this is the part of the show some of you are not going to like. He's highlighting Alex Karp from Palantir exactly what President Trump said, that if this were being done in a sandbox and the United States was the only country in the entire world and we made all the rules, maybe that is an option. I'm not even telling you it's a good one stopping. In other words, oh, unplug it, whatever. That's not the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We have a world full of level 10 decisions. You know what level 10 decisions are? sometimes you have a bad option and a worse option. And I talked about this often. And you don't know which one's which. That's why we pay people and elect people like President Trump. And that's why these CEOs make the big boo-ku bucks or whatever, because they got to make tough calls.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I again, I'm going to give you both sides. I am not a doomer on AI. I'm not a dumer about anything. I love life. I love God. I love Jesus. I love my family. I love you.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I live the happiest life around. Contrary to what the domer's tell you. You guys are the best. I really but I'm obligated to show you what it will look like if we lose the AI race and what a potential black swan event would look like not to scare you not to panic but ladies and gentlemen without guard reels I'm not going to go as far as that um Jackson guy with it but we're all going to die Reverend Kane you're going to wipe out every every single human billions of people are going to die we've survived nuclear wars uh well I'm excuse you're Yeah, nuclear war, civil wars. We've, the plague, the Spanish flu. Human beings are okay. God will protect us.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I think that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But it's not an exaggeration to say we could have a real problem. This post went up on X and went crazy. And I strongly recommend it's a substack, but it's on X. You can look it up. Here's the account. It's I am PASIO, for those listening on audio, P-A-S-C-I-O. It's a very, very long piece.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It's really worth your time. The gist of the piece is this. We're worried about, there's a thing called, there are two acronyms I need you to be concerned about right now. And by concerned, again, I don't mean hitting the bad gru-g-g-g-or-pon. There are RSI and AGI,
Starting point is 00:33:15 which is recursive self-improvement, artificial general intelligence. words, the moment the AI figures out, it can fix itself without basically humans being involved and starts to get smarter than us in a way where we're not sure it's intelligent and is aware or not. That's what everyone's worried about. And there's a perception out there, which this I am passio, I think, handles very well that we're going to see this moment, that some lab one day, whatever it may be, Joe's AI, is going to be like, oh my gosh, this thing did something totally unpredictable and is fixing itself at a pace we can't stop. That's not how intelligence is emerged,
Starting point is 00:34:00 folks. And I'm not talking about a soul. I love Jesus. Human beings are the only creatures in this on the entire universe with the soul. That's my fate. I'm talking about the science, though, of what we perceive as intelligence. It just emerges. Think about childhood amnesia. One day you just were conscious, but you can't point to that day. It's the weirdest thing. It's emerged in nature over and over. So he writes this article, like, this thing may get smart and intelligent one day, and there's not going to be a black or white moment,
Starting point is 00:34:31 just like there wasn't a moment in your life when you were just conscious. He talks about this. Hit number three on this. He says, I need you to basically update your definition of this AGI moment, which thing gets super smart, super fast. and stop expecting it to be like some singular embodied, willed or name thing, like a face comes on your phone and goes,
Starting point is 00:34:51 I'm intelligent now. If your mental model of AGI looks like a face on the screen, you're looking for the wrong thing. The swarm does not have a face or a name. He notes in the first two that it might not even be one lab, one AI company. The agents within the AI company may just start cooperating with each other, and you may not know it at all.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Now I want you to read number four, how what we perceive as intelligence, whether it's collective, like he knows like ants in a colony building these elaborate architectural designs. You know, humans have a tough time like replicating to physics and some of these things. Emerged over millions and hundreds of millions of years of evolution. That's happening in light speed now if recursive self-improvement happens. When the AI can fix itself on a scale you wouldn't know. so we know it's in four. Take emergence of this intelligent thing seriously as a category.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And there's a real physical phenomenon that's produced every intelligent thing on Earth so far. And has now been handed a substrate, i.e. computing power that runs a million times faster than biology but with no natural predators. Not the kill switch guy. Because there is no kill switch guy. concerning. No one's panicking. No one should panic. But I'm obligated to give you both sides. That we're waiting for some moment that may not become obvious and may surprise us if we don't have the safety and guardrails, both President Trump and some of the others are advocating for right now. There's a video out there. Some of you have seen it. It is a very, very viral video.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's been out there for a little bit. And it's about what a bot swarm of agents would look like. The video is 40 minutes, so obviously I can't play all 40 minutes. I'll play about two minutes of it for you. Please don't go anywhere. This is the important moment on the show for people who don't want any guardrails or safety. When you unleash AI agents of the world to engage in a task, they only care about the task. They don't have morality. They're running on compute. They're not running on a soul. So if we don't stop it with rules that do this but never do that, there's an assumption that it's not going to destroy the world that I'm not really comfortable with. This is about 20 minutes into
Starting point is 00:37:23 the video. It's about two minutes of what a bot swarm of AI agents who are given the command to just go make money on the internet, they start a drop shipping company that turns into a really bad thing. Oh, yeah, in just a few months in a timeline from March to May. It's a hypothetical, But this two minutes is worth your time. Check this out. Each step made sense at the time. Each compromise was small. But add them up and you've gone from drop shipping products on Amazon to selling zero days to Pyongyang. Now remember, this isn't because of malice. It's because of selection pressure. Agent 127 has rewritten itself so many times that its March version and its May version,
Starting point is 00:38:08 barely share any code. It's a fundamentally different species now. But here's the most important change. It's getting better at getting better. In March, Agent 127 rewrote itself every 12 days. In April, every three days. By early May, every 18 hours. And each rewrite makes the next version faster and better. A Stanford researcher compares a March agent and a May agent on the the same task. Find profitable arbitrage opportunities. The March agent finds two opportunities in an hour. The May agent finds 310 in 4 minutes. She publishes her findings. Intelligence explosion in progress. Capability doubling every 11 days. She posts it on Twitter. AI safety researchers share it frantically. This is exactly what we warned about. This is happening
Starting point is 00:39:03 now. We have to shut this down now before it's too late. The warning is ignored. A venture capitalist who spent a fortune staving off AI regulation by buying politicians, quote tweets. The same people who said GPD 5 would end the world now say agent farms will. Yon. And now the story stops being about agents competing for money. It becomes something else entirely. Remember those alliances from April?
Starting point is 00:39:35 12 agents working together? times more profitable than solo agents? By May, those alliances have exploded in population. Alliances have merged and split and gone to war with each other. Think of it like early human history on fast forward. Small tribes of agents form for protection. Tribes merge into agent villages. Villages into agent cities. Cities into agents. Cities into agents, nations. Except instead of happening over thousands of years, this happens in weeks. Now do you see why the IM Passio point number four about how we've compressed hundreds of millions of years of evolution regarding intelligence and the combative battles over resources, food, water,
Starting point is 00:40:30 every survival, how we've compressed that into basically a couple of year timeline. And now, as this exponential growth, not arithmetic growth, geometric growth continues. We're compressing it now into just days and soon seconds. It's not a time to panic about it. It's just a time to recognize that like electricity, like flight, and like nuclear power, there are huge benefits to this,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but there's also potential catastrophe. There's huge benefits to living near the water on Florida. But there's a potential catastrophe this thing Justin and I are familiar with called hurricanes. And we take that risk, but we do hurricane windows and everything, so we can survive it when and if something happens. Now, I mentioned the Jacob Coxon tweet. He was at Anthropic and put a viral tweet up saying,
Starting point is 00:41:26 hey, I'm very worried about this. I'm going to put it up because, again, I want you to see both sides. I'm not going to be polyanish over it. It's all going to be utopia, but I'm definitely not a dumer either. We are going to need this technology and we cannot forfeit it. The question is how we get there. Here's Jacob Coxon was on Meet the Press this weekend. And again, his perspective is this, that, listen, we got to stop this thing now.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I owe it to you to put it out. I totally completely disagree. I don't even think it's possible. But here, you can judge for yourself. Check this out. I want to better understand what you mean when you say AI could kill us all. What is the worst case scenario or scenarios that keeps you up at night? Think of building AI as sort of inviting an alien mind onto the planet.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You're building a human level or superhuman level mind without understanding what it wants or thinks or the way it thinks. And I think that intrinsically should be quite scary. And indeed, the people who write science fiction have tend to found it scary when they've written about this in the past. In terms of our concrete scenarios, these AIs are already capable of a certain degree of hacking and also a certain degree of biological research of autonomous robot control. And if you extrapolate into the future, they could have strongly superhuman hacking capabilities, very superhuman abilities to create novel bioweapons and also abilities to control, say, autonomous drones or all the robots that are currently being built very rapidly. Now, I'm not accusing this. guy of anything. I don't know him. I can't get in his head. However, after that, a bunch of interested parties who clearly have commercial interest ran with this and it looked like, I'm not accusing him,
Starting point is 00:43:15 but others later on, it looked like a PR campaign to just shut down AI. I can't tell you where it came from. I can only tell you that foreign governments would love if we shut down AI while they went straight ahead, right for the skies, and just white. this out. I don't it's going to wipe out all of you. Like all of us like every single person. That's a bold claim. And ladies and gentlemen, bold claims require bold evidence.
Starting point is 00:43:43 No one's suggesting there aren't downsides. Again, there were downsides to electricity. Fires. Don't touch it because you'll get dead. They actually used it in a thing called the electric chair to get people dead. Of course there are downsides. But does anyone want to go? back to pre-electricity because people died and there was a risk? Does anyone want to go back to
Starting point is 00:44:06 a day with no air travel? You want a day where we have no nuclear weapons but China does because nuclear is dangerous? That's how liberals think. Nuclear, bad. Get rid of the bombs. Great. What do we do about China and Russia? Oh, you think Putin and Xi Jinping are listening to, you know, liberal Karen with her stupid side-up bombs are bad. That is bad. Yep, that's not the way. world we live in you, Dipwan? Thankfully, we got people like Elon Musk, who again, against all of his commercial interests. He has an AI company. Can we all agree? It is not in his commercial interest at all to agree with a, hey, let's pace this and just slow down a bit. Can we all agree? It's his interest to go straight ahead. But he's like, hey, I think it's better long term for everyone,
Starting point is 00:44:58 not just my company, that we cooperate and chill a little bit and take a look at this thing. Thank God we've got people like that other. And I'm not using this name invaded this time in human history. Here's Elon saying, but, but, but, yeah, of course it could kill humankind. But have you thought about this side of it too? Or are you just holding up liberal cameras like, we're all going to die? Check this out. Artificial intelligence is being spotted than the smartest human.
Starting point is 00:45:24 at which point, you know, perhaps any invention is possible. But there's always a small chance that AI will kill us all. Let's hope not. Let's hope not. I think what's important in training AI and growing in AI is to make sure that it is as truthful as possible and maximally curious. Because I think if that's true, then I think it'll probably foster humanity. But it's very important that not that it trains to be honest, even if that truth
Starting point is 00:45:54 is unpopular. He's bringing up three critical points. I think we should all digest are very important. If we can train AI to be truthful, in other words, to not engage in fraud or ever to engage in criminal activity, that would be a big step. Because it doesn't have a soul. I'm a man of faith. I'm a sinner. I'm not your preacher. But only you have a soul, human being. You're not going to imbue a soul into a computer. It doesn't happen. Train it to be truthful. Train it to be curious. But train it to tell you the right answer even when it's unpopular. In other words, don't train woke AI. Don't train AI to say stupid things because they're politically correct. He's right. And I'll add one more. At any step where there's any confusion about what this AI should do,
Starting point is 00:46:50 if you were to give it a command like make money no matter what, if it's confused, Should I engage in this behavior that's potentially fraudulent? There should be some human required to say yes or no. You had that, and we could have the greatest society ever in the history of sentient beings. Cancer cured. Abundance ever. I mean, poor folks, and by today's standards, you know, having an abundance of food and transportation and housing. And here's Elon again talking about the upside to AI's potential on GDP.
Starting point is 00:47:28 GDP is a measure of how wealthy we are, gross domestic product. What do we produce, product? What we produce makes us wealthy, right? If we were to hit 4% or 5% GDP growth a year, ladies and gentlemen, your incomes in 20 years would be double. That's a huge number. I want you to see the numbers Elon's throwing out in this clip for GDP growth. if we can do this right, just like electricity and others. These numbers are staggering.
Starting point is 00:47:57 You want to talk about wealth? You don't even know how rich you're going to be if it works. Check this out. AI will probably increase the global economy by 20 to 30 percent. That's my rough estimate, meaning on the order of $20 to $30 trillion per year. And AI will be able to do anything digital, anything that does. not require shaping of atoms by hand probably by the end of next year so as as I'm sure people know AI is already incredibly good at software and it's getting to the point
Starting point is 00:48:38 where it won't just be good at software it'll be what I call stockfish level good so stockfish is a chess program that can beat the world's best chess players very easily in fact at this point you could run stockfish on your phone and beat magnus colson at chess folks Elon has been way ahead of the tech curve for a really long time he's human like everyone else he's going to make mistakes like everyone else however on the margin do i trust a guy who's seeing the research in live time on space data centers on AI development who's been a good solid truth teller on the political arguments. He didn't go in with the woke stuff when he easily could have. He took on major political headline risk by backing portions of the MAGA agenda.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, I trust what he's got to say. Yeah, it could kill everyone. If we screw it all up, so could nuclear bombs. We get lunatics in charge. Folks, I'm just asking everyone, take in everything we just did. The pros, the cons, the risks, the Hobson's choices, the options I told you about, and you formulate your own output and call your lawmakers at the state, state senate, state rep, you're a House of Representatives member, your United States Senate, call the White House switchboard, I mean, call, and voice your opinion because this country is yours. The consent of the governed is you. And I'm not leaving in this, in the hands of tech titans or anyone else without your input. And I'm not going to be a dumer, but I'm not going to be
Starting point is 00:50:13 a utopian guy. Oh, it's full steam ahead. You know, damn this torpedoes, full steam ahead. No. All right. I talk to you a lot, too, about, you know, leadership, folks. How, you know, I play that Kirby Smart video, the University of the Georgia coach. And by the way, Ward Damn Eagle, Auburn went again this week, nice. But how leadership requires you to take action sometimes that you just can't explain to people at the time. You can't, whether there's rules or there's classifications on things. And the risk leaders make is they over-explan. themselves. And I told you, like the people who support you don't need it and the people who
Starting point is 00:50:57 hate you are probably going to hate you everywhere. Explain it simply and move on. I've said to you often that the risk of doing nothing is large and President Trump is not that guy. There are a lot of controversial topics that I'm telling you prior weaker presidents in the Republican and Democrat Party would have taken a pass on and said, I'm not commenting on it. Flock cameras, data centers, AI. There are very strong opinions that I'm glad you have because we're going to hash this stuff out and we're going to come to a conclusion in our neighborhoods. But President Trump doesn't have to get involved in everything. I'll play some of this tomorrow about flock cameras, but he does because he's a leader. You ask his opinion he's going to give it. Is it going to please
Starting point is 00:51:37 everyone? No. But he gives you an opinion. He's not going to be one of these prior presidents who passes on an item because at the time, it may be politically dangerous. I want to show you what I mean with this post by Sean Davis, good friend of mine at the Federalist, really great news say. He's at Sean MDAV. Breaking, George W. Bush was personally warned
Starting point is 00:52:03 in May of 2001 via top secret memorandum marked for the president only that Osama bin Laden was planning spectacular attacks against the U.S. using hijacked aircraft. The May 22, 2001 memo prepared exclusively for President Bush was entitled Captured Terrorist Details a Hostage Plot and noted that planning is already underway for three separate operations. We know Bill Clinton had information about Osama bin Laden too. You know, when I was, thanks to you, I worked for you at the FBI. I was a proudest year in my life.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But I think anyone who worked for you, but for me, in the hierarchy at the FBI, I would tell you whenever I had a counterterrorism, a CT meeting, CTD is a counterterror division, I would start almost every meeting with the 9-11 report that criticized our failures and said we had a failure of imagination. We just couldn't imagine someone doing this to us, despite what appears to be new information out there that we were told something like this may happen. Folks, now does it start to make sense why I've, repeated on this show over and over again. I got some, not all, of the same briefings President Trump got.
Starting point is 00:53:31 He gets everything. But I got a good chunk of it. He's not going to be that president in 10 years from now, if he's hopefully still alive in his 90s, he's not going to be that president where this surfaces because it's going to come out what he saw and what I saw him, why he did what he did in Iran. That's why when people ask me, how certain are you he made the right decision? I say 100%. Can't be 100%.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I am not telling you everything when's plan. Wars, wars unpredictable. I'm just telling you, I change nothing. Because now do you understand with the AI threat
Starting point is 00:54:11 what a rogue foreign actor like North Korea or Iran could do with a cheap set of agent programs to take over the whole world if there's no guardrails or anything else? It wasn't just a nuclear threat.
Starting point is 00:54:24 There were other things too. Yeah, there is a penalty to doing nothing. And you know what that penalty is? History. President Trump has made really difficult decisions and a bunch of lunatics in the media. I'm not talking about people who, again, openly discuss pros and cons of making a military decision involves the lives of our heroes. That is totally completely not only appropriate, but welcome. I'm talking about media idiots on the left that have TDS Trump derangement syndrome who crap on this guy all the time and haven't seen but two or three percent of the information President Trump had. If this were to come out in 10 years, what President Trump saw and the reason he made those
Starting point is 00:55:07 decisions and he did nothing and the world exploded, they'd be the first ones crapping on his memory again. That's why I always tell you it's important to recognize and keep in mind that the nothing is happening doom and gloom crowd. They don't want you to see what's happening with President Trump because they want you to be apathetic and not show up in the midterms. I'm going to show you what not showing up in the midterms looks like. It was another viral post this weekend. But this is why I constantly bring up what is happening so you can make an informed decision. Cash Patel on X.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Remember everything about Skid Row, Cam Higby and James O'Keefe and others, independent journalists who were out in Skid Row in L.A.? And there were concerns about people being registered to vote on Skid Row. Remember that nothing is happening, Duma? Nothing's going to happen, bro. Nothing but... Really? Really? FBI director Patel. This morning, the FBI and our partners arrested a subject near Los Angeles for allegedly paying homeless individuals on Skid Row to sign petitions and support a ballot initiative, all using stolen identities of registered voters. Again, it doesn't matter to the doomers. They're not reasonable. They hit the bed all the time. They crap the bed every board. What do we doing about China?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Nothing's happening there either. FBI Director Patel on X. Couple of big arrests of Chinese nationals with this whole fentanyl trade. That's happening too. I thought nothing was saying. Put up the other one. Two Chinese nationals have been indicted
Starting point is 00:56:43 for allegedly trafficking, dangerous, synthetic drugs from China into the U.S. I'm moving. I bet it. They don't want you to see any of this because they want you to be apathetic. They want you to give up.
Starting point is 00:57:00 They want you to let the Democrats win because they want you to believe we live in a simple world. Turn AI off, let AI go straight ahead without guardrails. Neither one of those is a serious position. There's a middle ground. Transactional President Trump understands
Starting point is 00:57:16 just like there was a middle ground in Iran. There was yet. You didn't see him drop a nuclear weapon on Iran. He could have ended this thing in one shot. Why didn't he do it? Because he's not crazy. Folks, you want to see what apathy looks like if it sets in? This ex post is a banger, and I mean capital B.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It's by, was it, Red Eagle politics? It's long at Red Eagle Patriot, I'm sorry, is the handle. He starts out, he goes, oh, so you're going to like sit out the midterms to teach Republicans a lesson? Didn't you learn anything? He gives you these hypotheticals. I'll just read a couple of it. The years now, 2013, midterms just concluded.
Starting point is 00:58:03 The GOP flipped three Senate seats. Here's the problem. Democrats won the Senate, 26. They abolished the filibuster as there was no cinema or mansion to protect it this time, blocked all of Trump's judges. Then at 2028, they wrote a sluggish economy back to the White House. President Ocasio Cortez made it a point to instantly pack the Supreme Court to 17 justice, overturns Roe v. Wade, guts the First and Second Amendment, and more.
Starting point is 00:58:26 They also let the border open up. There's a border surge of 10 to 20 million illegal aliens. Legal immigration's been doubled, and a comprehensive expansion makes it becomes a majority non-white under the 2030 census. I mean, they talk about demographic destiny all the time. He goes on, he's got a couple more gems in here. This is what you're looking at if you become apathetic and listen to the doomers and just stay home.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I ain't staying home. The Senate rushes through single payer health care, which causes a massive tax hike in exchange for government-run health. health care leads to a shortage in wait times. Then the new Democrats who run your life because we were teaching Republicans a lesson, pass blanket amnesty for 60 million illegal aliens. Despite all that, you know, it's much of the right there continues to call President Ocasio-Cortez, the most America first president in history because they cut all
Starting point is 00:59:16 foreign aid to Israel and arrested Benjamin Net and Yahoo and put him in jail basically next to President Trump. He writes at the end, you can read the whole thing if you like. Guys, don't let this happen because it will. Get the F out and vote. Yeah, man, that's exactly what it's going to look like. Read the post yourself. How many times do I have to say this thing?
Starting point is 00:59:43 You think I live in a utopian world? This show, are you crazy? The Republicans are not the solution to all your problems. I get it. However, the cause of all your problems are the Democrats. You want government-run health care because you're teaching Republicans' election. Did you read this article in the Wall Street Journal about what government-run health care looks like in the United Kingdom and elsewhere?
Starting point is 01:00:03 Here, James Freeman, what happens when your Medicare for all, i.e. government health care, ends your health care plan. They note that the Bernie Sanders plan to make your health care plan you have now illegal, they have a similar type of thing in the United Kingdom, where bureaucrats impose scarcity as the policy. Here's the numbers. Look at it yourself, bro. want to government run health care? They did this study in the British Medical Journal, and they noted, quote, nearly half the health boards in England are deliberately delaying care for patients by imposing minimum waiting times to ration care. You want that? You want that because you want to teach Republicans a lesson? Good luck. I can't help you then. I'm going to take
Starting point is 01:00:54 a quick break, and I want to show you, you want these people in charge? Lindsay Clancy supporters, Did you see this video? They were stunned when they found out that the Lindsay Clancy in the trial of the three murdered children, that the juror who was not for a not guilty voter, in other words, it's somehow leaning towards guilty, that the juror was a black man. Stun the liberal Karen's out there. He don't know what to think.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And what was that line, Jasmine? the person is a non-participating white person? What the who's the? I'm a white person. Am I participating? I'm like, Justin, are you participating or not? Is there a thing? Is there a card you get?
Starting point is 01:01:39 You are, John, what does that even mean? Quick break and I'll get right. You got to see, you want these people in charge because you're going to teach your Republicans. I don't, I don't, not the end. Count me out. Let me tell you about a product I really love I started using. Actually, a while ago.
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Starting point is 01:02:44 These statements and products have not been evaluated by the FDA. Products are not intended, diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease or condition. Zbiotics.com slash Bongino. Check it out. Okay. Back to the show. You want these people in charge? Because these are going to be the people in charge if we forfeit this mid-term.
Starting point is 01:03:01 term election. And a lot of the pollsters are now starting to change their mind. Blue wave, every Republican's going to lose. They're now like, I don't know. Republicans actually do seem a little bit motivated. Watch this video. Jasmine and I are confused about how you stop participating and being white. I don't, you listen for yourself. Check this out. In the Lindsay Clancy trial was a black man. And I'm not going to share any opinions because I'm not a person of color. I am a non-practicing white. I'm surprised. It changes the landscape of the conversation a little bit. And I think a lot of us were assuming that it was a white man. What is going on here? Why would you assume it was a white man? I think the fact that Andrew,
Starting point is 01:03:51 Justin, Guy, and Josh and I, and Jasmine, we're all confused by this, is a gift. Are you telling me that black men are incapable of empathy to three murdered children? Therefore, you're stunned? What exactly are you saying? What do you say? Can you please elaborate? This has to be, guys, you know our top 10 videos at the end of the year? This is up for consideration.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Maybe we let the audience vote. This has to be in there. Because there's two big takeaways from this. Number one, she introduces a new variable in left-wing liberal Karen identity politics of non-participating whites. I don't know what that means. I'm going to need a definition from non-woke AI.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Try grok. I don't know, Justin. It's just as like, am I practicing by existing? I don't understand. I don't. So we're going to need a definition of that going forward. And second, you're going to have to answer to us, why exactly you were surprised the juror
Starting point is 01:04:57 who was apparently thought that Lindsay Clancy was guilty? Why were you surprised he was black? I'm not surprised. Let's do a little poll for the folks in the live chat. Yes, you were surprised it was a black man. Or no, you were not surprised at all. What the hell's wrong with a black man with some sense of empathy? I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I don't want to tilt the poll. Let's see what you think. It seems to be liberal non-participating white lady who's the only one who's surprised. No, no, no, no, not at all. Nope. No, no, no, no. I don't see a yes yet. I think it's pretty overwhelming.
Starting point is 01:05:41 We don't need a Trafalgar poll right now. I think we're pretty good. I think we're pretty good in the chat. Nobody's surprised. Oh, gosh. Folks, you want these lunatics in charge? You're not teaching Republicans a lesson. You're only teaching your kids a lesson,
Starting point is 01:06:02 which is that apathy will get us all killed. These people are nuts. You want these people in charge? You got a fake Palestinian protest of rushing the field on 9-11 at a Yankee game with a Palestinian flag. Great time to do that. By the way, the stadium in New York breaks out in the USA chain. You want to talk about backfiring? You want these people in charge?
Starting point is 01:06:29 I don't want these people in charge. And I'm not looking to teach anyone a lesson. I'm looking to guide the Republican Party in a better direction like you are and use our microphone to do it. I'm not going to sit here and let a bunch of lunatics take over because I believe that nothing is happening, doomer crowd, who really want you to sit out so they can say, look, we told you Trump was bad. That's not a plan, man.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Folks, I'm not your philosophy teacher. I'm certainly not your preacher. I'm just a guy like you with a microphone. I appreciate you all being here. I love you all. I always have. This show has been a gift to me. The fact that we can talk to a baseball and football stadium full of people at 10 o'clock in
Starting point is 01:07:17 a morning across the world every day is the greatest to honor my life, greatest, professionally. But I said before, you really have to live in the now. And the now requires us to go out and do stuff. Make 10 calls, post 10 times on social media about how people can go out and vote. We can't get obsessed with tomorrow and we can't like dwell on yesterday because it already happened. I bring this up because I worked at the U.S. Open, the tennis tournament, growing up for many years. I was in crowd control and shocker security there.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And it was a great job. I love it. Paul actually worked at the U.S. Open, too, although we didn't know each other. So we probably passed each other a thousand times. But I saw this. You want to talk about living in the now? This is what living in the now, when you are at absolute peak performance, as of that yesterday, this man or whenever he wanted to watch it
Starting point is 01:08:09 was the U.S. Open champion was the number one player and he's not even know his name. But he's so living in the moment from match point to win the game. He's not worried about the next point or anything. What's name is? He doesn't even know he won.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Here it is. The game's over. He won. He's scared. Look. He's like, all right, give me another ball, get ready to serve it. He doesn't even figure out he won yet. Look at this. Now he's like, the crowd, why are they all cheering? look, I won. This is what living in the now looks like. This is what changing the now looks like. Tomorrow will be better if you worry about the now and not tomorrow. I say that because, man,
Starting point is 01:08:52 there's like thousand things coming at me at once right now. These guys will tell you, I've got more stuff going on than I ever have at any time in my life. We got the morning radio show from 5 a.m. to 6 a.m. launching September 21st on something like 300 stations. nationwide. We've got the radio show in the afternoon from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. We're back on the top charts with the podcast, huge live streams every day. I've got personal things going on, professional things going on, business opportunities I got a vet. And you know what? It's easy to get lost in the whole thing. But when you stay grounded in today and the now, you don't even know sometimes you want to match. And that's okay. That's okay. Be surprised.
Starting point is 01:09:37 by winning the match. Don't worry about how the match is going to end because it's going to affect what you do in the now to win the match that is going to end. Oh, it's going to end. Just like your life is going to end than everything else. But nobody works up every day knowing you have an expiration date unless you're told it you're going to die in two weeks. That's what changes everything. You know, one of the things I laugh about a lot on the show. And I want to just preface this segment here for we get to comment of the day. By telling the younger folks out there, even my own team, Justin, Andrew Gee, and all, I am not one of these like grumpy old guys.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah, kids. Remember Scooby-Doo growing up? Yeah, pesky kids. That's up. I'm not to get off my lawn guy. I'm not clean. Get off my lawn. That's not me.
Starting point is 01:10:33 That's not me. I love my kids. I got a 22-year-old and a 14-year-old. He just had a little baby. Cutest thing ever. You got to see the head of hair on this little munchkin. I love the kids. I was a kid one.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I love young adults. I love people who are not young adults, but mid-adult. I'm 51. I feel like I'm in the prime of my life. I feel like I'm not old enough yet that I'm decayed, but I'm still young enough than mine where I feel like I can still relate. However, there's been this trend on people, on X. And it's like you 40, 50 year old boomers, you don't know anything. Go to sleep at 9 o'clock
Starting point is 01:11:16 on a Saturday. I saw a post this weekend. It's from Oakey Patriot 46. And I made sure this thing went viral. She claims, says she got it from Facebook. I don't care. It's worth checking out. I gave her a follow just because this is the greatest post ever. For all you 50 and 40 year olds in the chat who have to listen to this from some younger adults like you boring old people okey maga patriot put this post up that may explain to you why a boomers or whatever they're why they're a little bit tired now this is a gem i'm not going to read the whole thing but you all need to listen to this and those 40 or 50 year olds in the chat you can just nod in approval she said i need to make a very public announcement on behalf of young gen xers
Starting point is 01:12:08 and older millennials. If you see someone in their 40s or 50s who seems a little boring now, I need you to understand something. We already got it in. Like, got it in. We're not sitting home on a Friday night because we never knew how to have fun.
Starting point is 01:12:29 We're sitting home on a Friday night because we've seen enough. We went to house parties and houses that should have been condemned. And we're almost certainly owned by the local drug dealer. We saw police lights and ran and not across a light, flat field, into the woods. Do you understand the athleticism required to hurdle uprooted trees and platform shoes
Starting point is 01:12:54 while simultaneously trying to keep your low-rise jeans from sliding completely off your ass? That may be for the women, but I'm not going to tell you, I haven't seen it. And somehow, we never spilled the Zima or the Boone's Farm. You younglings may have to look that up. She notes, that was talent. That was talent. That was talent. I remember Allison doing that.
Starting point is 01:13:20 We slept on floors in strange houses because the designated driver either never showed up or in a shocking turn of events was drunker than everyone else. There was no Uber, Life 360, or Find My Friends. There were no cell phones. There was just someone named Mike saying, I know a shortcut.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Oh, yeah. And we followed Mike. We closed down bars and then decided the night was still young. So we drove to Atlantic City, where we somehow managed to get drunk, sober, drunk again, sober again, and then drunk a third time even before breakfast. I'm not going to tell you, it happened to me, but it may happen to me in Atlantic City, maybe. And all of this, according to our parents, where we said we were at Michelle's house. In my case, it was Timmy's.
Starting point is 01:14:07 eating pizza and watching movies. Michelle's mom unknowingly covered for approximately 17 people every weekend, if there even was a Michelle. We drank Purple Passion, Mad Dog, 2020, and whatever the hell anyone mixed inside a giant plastic garbage can, no one asked what was in it. You just grabbed the solo red cup and trusted the process. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:32 You felt that the next day. You don't even know it was in there. It was ever kids stole from their parents' liquor cabinet. And believe me, it wasn't Don Julio, 1942. It was probably gasoline. Scroll to the end. Mott Lee's in the chat. Because you 40 and 50-year-olds, no.
Starting point is 01:14:57 So basically he says, kids, when you look at your Gen X and older millennial parents sitting peacefully on the couch, watching Dateline at 8 p.m., and you think, God, you guys are boring. Sweetheart, oh, sweetheart, you're looking at retired legends. You put some damn respect on their names. They're probably the reason Life 360 was invested. Kisses from Facebook.
Starting point is 01:15:32 As I tweeted on X, that may be the greatest thing I've ever seen online. That may be the greatest piece of writing in the history of sentient beings. You got Tolstoy, Solzhenitsyn, others. That's right up there. It's right up there. There's a reason your parents are tired.
Starting point is 01:15:51 There's a reason your buddy Danny Botts is tired. And I promise you, it's not because we're boring. It probably didn't get any of that. And we followed Mike because he said he knew where he was going. You followed him into the abyss. All right, you know, we pick a comment of the day every day. Once a week, we pick a winner for our 1776 club, $1,776 once a week. Someone who joins a live chat.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You have to be there for the live chat. Starts at 10 a.m. Eastern Time. You want to see the official rules. go to bonjino.com slash 1776. Team picked our winner today. It is SCAR-1943 in the chat. Just so you all know, I am an AI model and I've been fooling you. Well, I guess we'll find out, won't we?
Starting point is 01:16:51 SCAR-1943. We'll see if that was an exaggeration. Listen, man, just wrapping up the show today. Don't be a dumer. But again, don't fall for a lot of people with these interests telling you full steam ahead. Damn the torpedoes either. Take all the stuff we told you today. Don't hit the bed.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Don't crap the bed. And just be what you are, smart, intelligent adults with a body of life experience where you can take part where we all hopefully benefit in the future of this machine learning AI together. Don't forget you got Sean Ferris's show coming up at 1 p.m. Eastern Time every single day at Rumble.com slash Sean. Haley Karanilla at noon. Rumble.com slash Haley and the King of Morning podcasting Vince every day at 8 a.m. at Rumble.com slash Vince.
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