The Dan Bongino Show - The Questions That Must be Asked # 995 (Ep 995)
Episode Date: June 5, 2019In this episode I address the surprise development that a key Spygate figure plans to provide testimony to investigators. I also address the latest absurdities from AOC. Finally, I debunk the latest l...iberal nonsense about minimum wage.  News Picks:Here are the key questions that need to be asked of Spygate conspirator Christopher Steele. AOC continues to make embarrassingly silly statements. The Mueller report uses creative editing to paint a false narrative. We must never forget Tiananmen Square. Minimum wage hikes are economically disastrous. The latest research confirms this. Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your
host dan bongino all right welcome to dan bongino show producer joe how are you today dano it's
thundering thursday how you like that baby thunder on Thursday. No, it's not. It's Wednesday.
Now, for those of you who missed yesterday's show,
we're joking.
Joe knows it's Wednesday.
We're messing with you to open up the show.
Joe didn't, however, yesterday know
that yesterday was Tuesday.
Today is Wednesday.
Tomorrow's, I told Joe.
I said, hey, come on here.
Tell him it's Thursday.
At least you'll be consistent.
You know what it is?
It reminds, there's an economics lesson in this joe and this is why i didn't tell
you this before the show i'm not making this i wanted you to do that for a reason there is an
economics lesson in this okay that data and research ladies and gentlemen can be valid but
not reliable and i want you to understand that. Economists can be consistently wrong, but it's valid, but it's just not reliable.
No, no, excuse me.
I got it backwards.
Reliable, but not valid.
In other words, if you get a scale that is off, consistently adds 20 pounds, right?
Yes.
It's reliable.
I weigh 230.
It'll say I weigh 250.
It's just not a valid measure of my weight.
Forgive me.
I got that backwards.
But that's important. Joe is consistently off by weight. Forgive me. I got that backwards. But that's important.
Joe is consistently off by one day.
He is reliably wrong.
And that's why there's a lesson in this.
You see, that's the different thing about this show.
We do what other people can't do because we're not subjected to any kind of executive producer guidelines.
We do our own thing.
We're ahead of the curve.
Remember, liberals do this all the time.
They confuse validity and reliability. You can be reliably wrong all the time they confuse validity and reliability
you can be reliably wrong all the time which liberals always are so thank you joe for providing
that interesting commentary we got some really big news for you today christopher steel the
british spy who started spy gate shockingly now that president trump has given the declassification
order now he wants to talk to investigators. Oh, stunner.
The number one stunner,
for those of you who remember that song
back from the 90s, right?
I'm going to get to that.
Some key questions that need to be asked to this guy.
And I want to call out by far, Joe,
the worst analyst in TV news and in commentary,
law enforcement analyst out there.
She is so bad.
She has a success record
of failure that is close to 100 so i'll get to that a lot more yeah it's good all right today's
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That's a Mike Tyson favorite, too.
That's a tough one.
Oh, oh. If you hit it just right yeah forget it it is it is crickets for that guy out out you may see chiclets if you don't i'm not i'm just saying when you're boxing we're talking
about sports yes we're not liberals here talking about street violence just to be sure we are not
condoning violence we are not liberals on this show. That's by the way, I got
a video about that later too, which won't surprise many of you who've been following. All right. So
Chris Steele's agreed to be questioned. The former British spy hired by Hillary Clinton, basically to
provide bogus information about the Trump team, which was used to spy on them. You all know who
it is. And before I get into Christopher Steele being questioned and what we should ask him,
last night, again, again, Chrisris hahn liberal i debate a lot
on fox news i i get a kick out of these democrats going on cable news and continuing to propagate a
lie on cable news where they get called out some of you may have seen it last night on martha
mccallum uh just quickly what did he say last night on martha mccallum show i just want to
note that christopher steele was paid by the republic Republicans first to get the dossier. Okay, whatever.
It's totally false.
Martha McCallum stopped him in his tracks.
Chris, that's not true.
She's like, let me correct it for the audience.
It was very embarrassing for Chris.
But I only bring it up because this was said to me by Austin Goolsbee, too.
Another Democrat who I debated on the Hannity Show said the same thing.
They just make stuff up.
Steele was never paid by the Republicans.
The dossier project was a Democrat project.
End of story.
Period.
Full stop.
The first question I want asked of Christopher Steele,
this is important, this is critical.
By the way, it's convenient, again,
right after the declassification order,
he's coming out and talking.
Because now the depth of his depravity
is going to come out into the open
once we see the declassified documents.
Number one,
who were Trebnikov
and Surkov to you? Now, we know
you told, according to the notes Kathleen Kavalec
of the State Department took when she spoke with
you, you cited Trebnikov and
Surkov, two Russians in the inner
circle of Vladimir Putin, as we can see
from this note that the State Department official
took when she was, Kathleen Kavalec, when she was talking to Christopher Steele.
What was your relationship with them? Who were Trebnikov and Surkov? This is important.
This is a key critical point. I want to know who they were and what they were talking about to you.
Why were you dealing with Trebnikov and Surkov either directly or through a third party?
Trebnikov was a former higher up Russian intelligence operative.
Surkov was what they call him, the gray cardinal in the Kremlin, was Putin's ideological architect.
These are two close confidants of Putin.
Why were you taking information from Putin cooperators?
Isn't that evidence in and of itself of Russian collusion?
You've heard that before.
No need to beat that dead horse.
But those are Kavalec's own notes from Christopher Steele's comments to her.
Clearly, she either asked him or he volunteered who his sources were for this negative information on Trump.
And he says, Trebnikov and Surkov two Russian
confidants of Vladimir Putin
so question number one
what was your relationship with these two
now
question number two is an obvious
corollary to that
if you were getting
information from a former
high level Russian intelligence
operative Trebnikov, close to Vladimir Putin,
and his ideological architect, Surkov,
did you ever consider the possibility, you numbskull,
that this was a disinformation effort designed to sow chaos?
Did that ever occur to you?
Did you ever say to yourself,
maybe these guys are spinning my wheels
for political purposes i'm not aware of now joe you were not a spy no i was not a spy i was an
agent not a spy this is very different but i think common sense would dictate that russians who are
experts in disinformation campaigns and former intelligence people who do this for a living
could be feeding you potentially bogus information.
It doesn't take a trained central intelligence agency operative
to figure that out.
Did you ever ask that question?
Question number three.
Why couldn't you recall your own story
eight days later after that meeting?
When I say that meeting,
I'm referring to the October 8th meeting.
Christopher Steele, who's now going to be questioned, has with the State Department's Kathleen Kavalec.
What were you even doing at the State Department?
In that meeting, you specifically stated that Michael Cohen went to Prague to arrange his collusion scandal and get paid for it.
Yet days later, you wrote a memo for the dossier.
Remember, the dossier is a compendium of memos.
It's not one continuous document.
It's a series of memos.
One of the memos in the dossier, he writes just days after that meeting, he says his
sources don't know where the Cohen meeting happened.
How is that, Chris?
So question number one, who's Trubnikov and Surkov to you?
Two, how did you consider it russian disinformation question three how come you couldn't remember your own story about cohen prague eight days later
is it possible you didn't write the dossier as i cover in my second book
sounds awfully close to a wall street journal article written by Glenn Simpson back in 2007,
what we refer to on the show as the movie script.
Now, why would he sign a dossier memo
if he potentially didn't write it?
Because he was a, quote, verified source
by the FBI they'd used before.
He's not verified.
It wasn't his information.
And if it was his information, the alternate explanation in the dossier how come he couldn't remember it eight days later
question number four keep in mind i think i know the answer to most
most of these questions in advance that's why i'm asking them did the fbi interview your subsources you said tribnikov and
serkoff were your sources of information did you know that tribnikov was also teaching a course
over at cambridge in the united kingdom with stefan halper the same spy who the cia was using
the spy on george papadopoulos and the Trump team? Did you know that?
Is there a connection there between you, Hacklett, the intelligence, the private intelligence firm over in London, Halper and Trebnickoff?
Were you all working in one big circular firing squad there to shuttle around the same
information to make it look corroborated?
Do you guys all know each other?
Was this all one big setup?
Who was giving you instructions?
Did the FBI interview your subsources?
Did they interview them in January?
Was there a 302 on it, an FBI summary of that interview?
Did they make any attempt to verify those sources?
I think you know I have from a very good source that the answer that is yes they did and the fbi figured out in january of 2017 before they renewed the fisa third and fourth
time and there's apparently a 302 on it a written summary of the interview that one of his subsources
was completely illegitimate and full of it did he know that steel let me add one more i didn't even
include this in there here's a fifth by the way i have this
story up at my website today bongino.com matt palumbo has it down uh it's a really nice job
it'll be in the show notes today please subscribe to my email list on my website it's called steel
to be questioned at last here's what investigators need to ask by our buddy matt it's a very very good piece. I have another question about
Steele.
After you were
terminated by the FBI
and your services were no longer required
and the FBI deemed
you not worthy of being used,
not suitable for use, to quote
their exact terminology,
in November of
2016,
who's the one who tried to bring you back in?
Remember, later on, Andy McCabe,
the deputy director of the FBI,
tries to go back to Christopher Steele
to get information again.
If they tried to bring you back in,
what was their stated reason?
What did they say?
Why did the FBI,
after they deemed you not suitable for use,
try to bring you back in as a source
and all of a sudden deem you suitable for use again?
They give you a reason for that?
Did they forgive you?
Were they paying you again?
All interesting questions that need to be asked.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, to call out the worst analyst on television, I mean, bar none.
And when I say analyst, keep in mind, I'm not talking about opinion people.
It's, listen, Rachel Maddow, Chuck Todd, Chris Cuomo,
these are discredited liberal activists.
They were, you know, they're conspiracy theorists.
They're not really worthy of your time.
And the collapsing ratings of CNN and MSNBC
and the utter complete collapse of the audience of the Rachel Maddow show,
you should smile a little bit.
Because it says to you that even radical liberals understand that they wasted their time with Maddow and these other shows.
They invested in a show that fed them a nonsense collusion conspiracy for upwards of two years,
and a lot of them probably feel,
because the audience is collapsing.
Look at the numbers yourself.
You don't need to take my word for it.
For Maddow and other shows that had pretty sky-high ratings,
CNN never had that, of course.
But even their low ratings
are now hitting an ebb there.
I mean, if they are at the bottom of the mountain,
CNN at this point,
people generally don't want their time wasted.
So I'm not talking about them as being, they're not analysts they're opinion people who just promoted a conspiracy
theory when i say the worst analyst i'm talking about this body of people the phil mudds uh these
former fbi personnel doj personnel that go on tv as and provide supposedly expert advice i want you
to be very careful about these people.
There's another guy, Tom Nickel or something like that, another guy who ironically wrote
a book called The Death of Expertise and was one of the lead Russian collusion hoaxers
for the longest time.
He wrote a book called The Death of Expertise.
Ironic.
Ironic.
You might want to ask for a refund on that one.
But these are the people I'm talking about but this one by far is the worst
analyst on television it's Asha Rangapapa
she is really awful she is a
former FBI agent who ironically
only worked three years in the FBI so
I was talking to my wife this morning I'm like you know
it's weird I instructed
agents in the Secret Service Academy
as an instructor longer than she was actually a federal agent.
Yet she blocked me on Twitter because I was constantly calling her out for her nonsense
because she does nothing but defend this police state tyranny we witnessed in Spygate,
and she does it at the expense of her alleged principal.
She doesn't have any.
How do I know she doesn't have any?
Big hat tip to add John W. Huber on Twitter.
Again, one of the best accounts to follow out there on Twitter.
I don't know who he or she is.
All I know is the information on there is just really, really top notch.
At John W. Huber pointed out an interesting problem.
Asha Rangapapa, the worst analyst on television, collusion hoaxer, has with her latest thread.
She puts a thread out there again trying to defend the entirely discredited
garbage Spygate investigation.
And point number two of her thread is this,
this tweet, which is just the gem.
This is Asha, again, three-year FBI agent.
The second is the bizarre idea
that verification of source material
in a FISA application means the FBI
has to hunt down the source's sources
and get the info directly.
What would be the point of having a source?
Asha, who I'm, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm almost positive,
has never actually worked a FISA case directly where she was the case agent,
nor a terror case, nor a counterterrorism case,
which I have, a rather large one.
Asha clearly is either saying something she knows not to be true
or is so ignorant of FBI policies due to her limited experience with the FBI
that she just tweeted this out randomly,
not realizing she had written something quite the opposite a little bit earlier.
Put up the headline from her earlier piece.
By Asha Rangapapa, March 6th, 2017.
It ain't easy getting a FISA warrant.
I was an FBI agent, and I should know.
You apparently don't because you said this in the piece
directly contradicting the tweet I just put up.
Here.
This is from midway down.
I'm not going to read the whole.
This is from a rapid piece.
The Woods, she's talking about the Woods procedure
and the levels of verification.
pet peeves the woods that she's talking about the woods procedure and the levels of verification the doj verifies the accuracy accuracy of every fact stated in the application can we flip back
to the tweet okay so now she's saying the fisa application must have been legitimate because of
the woods procedures and the fbi verifies quote every fact here's her tweet from yesterday the
second is the bizarre idea that the verification of source material,
otherwise known as facts, Joe, in a FISA application,
means the FBI has to hunt down the sources.
So in one case.
See, this is the problem with being unprincipled.
And being in it for the money.
I know, we need Donnie Brasco right now. Totally Donnie Brasco. See, this is the problem with being unprincipled and being in it for the money. What are you going to do?
I know.
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If there was ever a time for Donnie Brasco on the drop, that was it.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
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I don't know what to say.
This is the issue about being unprincipled.
You have to remember your own lies.
When Ashton, when they appeal to it, this appeal to authority in Asha Rangapapa is absurd.
She was a three-year agent.
I'm not discrediting her three years, but one of those was probably spent in training.
She has two years in the field.
I don't know what you could have possibly done in two years to make you this ultimate appeal to authority that when the Washington Post where that op-ed appeared when they needed someone to defend
the FISA they go to Asha who says the FISA it's not our fault it's screwed up the FBI must have
verified it because this is how they work and this is the Woods procedure now that the FISA
application has been entirely discredited what does she she do? She says, hey, it's bizarre to say that the FBI
had to verify the information.
Jeez. You just
said the opposite.
See, we don't have this
problem on the right.
We don't have this problem with
defending our principles because we don't have to lie
about anything. I was against the
Patriot Act signed
by a Republican president, George W. Bush
for the exact same reason
I am a vocal opponent
of what happened in the Spygate scandal.
Because I don't believe
we should be spying on American
citizens, in some
cases without a warrant, and in other cases
in a secret court with a warrant
where we're not even bothering to verify
the information in a non-adversarial
setting. Your Fourth Amendment rights
go out the window.
There's no
hypocrisy there. When a
Republican does it, it's bad.
When a Democrat does it, it's
bad. When the McCain team
spread the dossier
around to the media, it was wrong.
He was a Republican and his team was.
When the Democrats did it,
it was just as bad.
That's not what Asha does.
They said, why are you picking on her?
Because she's using her very limited experience
in the FBI to attack people like me
who've never wavered on her principles
while she's clearly unprincipled
herself the fbi yes yes the fbi verifies every fact in the woods using the woods procedure
second it's bizarre to suggest the fbi has to verify the information which one's right
the answer is your op-ed was right.
Your op-ed was right.
Your tweet today is a lie.
I just want to be clear on this.
Ash is suggesting that a disputed conversation between one guy and another guy about a disputed other conversation about hearsay is enough to open up a surveillance FISA court warrant
to spy on and implement the two-hop rule,
innocent American citizens?
Is that what you're suggesting?
I hope you're getting paid well by CNN.
Because when you raised your right hand
to swore to uphold the Constitution,
you clearly forfeited that away.
And what I meant by that whole lengthy uh thing there was you're telling me george poppinopoulos
allegedly telling downer about russian dirt that both of them deny even happened
that he heard from another person who disputes he said it weeks earlier in another disputed
conversation about hearsay that's enough to start the biggest FISA investigation
we've seen or most impactful in modern American history?
You're sure about that?
If that's the case, and there are FBI agents out there like Asha
who believe that, I'm begging you, please resign today.
Please. Please resign today.
Because whatever oath you took, it's not the one I took.
I have no issue with my principles at all.
If a Democrat president had done,
a Republican president had done to Barack Obama,
what the Obama team did to candidate Trump,
we'd be having the exact same conversation on this show.
Bank on it.
Not with Asha.
Asha will, whatever, moistens her finger,
sees what direction the wind is going.
What does CNN need today?
CNN needs you today to say the Woods procedures are bunk.
I'll tweet it out.
The Washington Post needs you to write an article.
How great the Woods procedures are.
I'll write the article
that's what being unprincipled look like
bar none the worst
analyst on television
she has been wrong on everything
and it's important not to make this
personal because these
appeals to authority on the left
involve unprincipled people
who are lying to you
alright moving on I got a lot more to get to today involve unprincipled people who are lying to you.
All right, moving on.
I got a lot more to get to today.
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Listen.
AOC's back, Joe.
She's back.
AOC is back.
Yes, yes, yes.
Back on the scene. We haven't done a lot of AOC. I know. I get it. I get it. I hear from the audience sometimes. Why are you putting out AOC stuff? You're promoting. I'm not promoting her, ladies and gentlemen. I'mez. She has a significant following amongst the left, amongst the younger crowd.
She's managed to convince a lot of people that things that are fundamentally untrue
could have basis in fact.
This is dangerous.
This gaslighting, this propaganda effort, if it's not counteracted, you're assuming
it's going to go away.
Whether I ignore her or not, she's building her profile.
It is our job to go out there and counteract some of her misinformation.
Well, yesterday she made another, I'm going to call them faux pas.
She says them so often they're becoming her standard way of talking.
She says stuff that's so economically ridiculous,
it's hard to believe more people don't jump on it.
Hat tip from Twitter.
I think it was Ryan Savigia who pulled this off of an account from America First.
Forgive me.
America First, I think.
This is video of AOC.
Again, confusing rights and obligations,
a subject I bring up all the time.
When you declare something a right,
don't ever forget this.
Healthcare is a right.
Housing is a right.
If you declare it a right,
you confer an obligation on someone else.
If you think healthcare is a right, that obligates a doctor or a hospital to provide that service to you for free.
Right.
Well, that's how it should be.
Really?
Until they go bankrupt?
I mean, the world is a complicated place, ladies and gentlemen.
She constantly confuses rights and obligations.
So here's her take now on how you should work not to pay your own mortgage but you should have to work to pay
someone else's mortgage listen to this nonsense so we'll talk about what what are we doing to
make sure that housing is is being legislated as a human right what does that mean what it means is that our access and our ability and our guarantee to having a home
comes before someone else's privilege to earn a job oh my gosh hat tip by the way forgive me
america rising um i i so just be clear on this i know the audio is low. Joe did the best he could.
Those are really hard.
A lot of that's filmed on cell phone cameras is the best we could do.
But I know you raised it up because when I sent it to you,
I could barely hear it.
So good job on that.
Just to be clear,
she's saying that your privilege to earn a profit is subordinated to
someone else's right to own a home.
Ladies and gentlemen, think about how nonsensical that is.
Think about how dumb that is.
See, it doesn't matter.
The left won't call her out.
So just to be clear what she's saying by that,
this is not a leap of faith.
She is clearly implying that it is your privilege.
It is not a right for you to go out and work
and earn the fruits of your labor.
That's a privilege.
That's her line, not mine.
Yeah, dude.
That we're not in a free market, that this is some kind of privilege.
Meaning what?
That it's extended to you by who?
Well, obviously, being that she's a socialist, she means by the government.
So her thing is that you will get paid when the government says you can get paid.
This is a privilege.
That you should be able to work,
and if people decide to pay you,
you can rely solely on the imprimatur
of the United States government.
Which sounds a whole lot like communism to me,
but that's for another conversation.
But then she follows it up with an equal absurdity,
that you have a right to own a home.
Now, let me explain to you using a single subject example
how ridiculous this actually is what she said,
because no leftist will call her out on the problem.
Some of you are already getting this, by the way.
If you're picking up what I'm putting down,
you're like, now's the time, Joe, for the, oh. Some of you are already getting this, by the way. If you're picking up what I'm putting down, you're like,
now's the time, Joe, for the, oh, some of you are figuring it out.
I'm having a Brasco moment.
Yes.
If it's a single subject design, that would mean that I don't have to work
because me working and collecting revenue for it,
a wage,
it subordinates to my right to have a house.
Bingo.
No, no, no, that's not what I was saying.
No, that is what you said.
That's exactly what you said.
That is exactly what you said.
So technically,
Joe, there you go.
Let's just forget the show.
The show's done.
We're just going to sit here.
I don't have to work.
What do I got to work?
I pay for my house.
I'm sitting in my house right now in my studio.
Paula, this is great.
AOC said that I have a right to the house,
meaning other taxpayers have an obligation to pay for my house.
I don't have to work.
No, no.
She said you're privileged to work.
Yeah, privileged.
That's not a right.
I don't have any right or obligation to work at all.
She said it's a privilege.
I don't need that.
She said clearly, and if you listen again, you can rewind it.
You'll see she said it is subordinated to your right.
It comes after your right to own a home.
So newsflash to liberals.
This is the question for your liberal friends who defend this total ignoramus.
She knows nothing. she has immense power she has a huge following of people who applaud people applauded this so but did no
did anybody stop and say to themselves um mr casey o'cortez, Representative Casey O'Cortez, give her the proper respect.
She won the race.
If I don't work, do I get a house too?
Well, I would love to hear her answer.
Wait, wait, you just said it's my right.
A right meaning other, a right meaning it's a right.
A big R right, right?
I have a right to a house.
A right is something you can claim.
You have the right to free
speech you can claim it means it can't be infringed upon so if i have the right to a home do i get to
walk into a house for sale claim it as it's my it's the right of prima nocta remember remember
braveheart i'm here to claim my right of prima nocta do I get to claim my neighbor's house
no no it's not that kind of right
well what kind of right is it
why can't I my neighbor's selling his house
why can't I take it well you don't have the money
you didn't say that
you just said I don't have to work
you just said that right
you just said that working
and claiming proceeds from my work
is a privilege
that comes after my right to a house is anybody gonna call her on this any interested media person
out there are there any you know there's this guy um um i work with at fox he's a contributor he's a
democrat forgive me i'm not being a jerk honestly i don't remember his name but he's a democrat he's a democrat forgive me i'm not being a jerk honestly i don't remember his name but he's a democrat he's very nice guy and he's very sane and rational he's one of these moderate democrats
who sees like the streak in the party now with aoc and bernie sanders is like nuts he's not he's
he's an older guy i cannot remember his name bob i think his first name is bob forgive me i'm really
i shouldn't bring it up but he's a super nice guy. We need guys like this to speak out.
You know, political friction in a country isn't a bad thing to have multiple parties.
People have different feelings about different issues.
That's fine.
But when people say things that are clearly insane, where are the Democrats going?
Representative Ocasio-Cortezez that's kind of dumb what you said
isn't even doesn't even rationally make sense you have a right to a home means that right can't be
infringed on meaning if you can claim other people's property with no compensation did anybody anybody not see this i mean seriously this is the kind of stuff when republicans say stuff that is
dumb joe do we not call them out gosh we've gotten emails from people's staff saying hey ease up on
senator so and so we come from so and so not necessarily from their staff but from other
people's staff like this guy's talking. I don't care.
We try to stick to our principles here.
This is just dumb.
Okay, on the video front,
let me describe this one for you for our audio listeners.
This is a short video, but it was taken in the United Kingdom.
It's of a, I'm approximating here, but an 80-year-old man with a MAGA hat on.
You'll hear the ruckus in the background at a
rally in the United Kingdom, an anti-Trump
rally. And the man
is viciously thrown to
the ground by a
bunch of anti-Trump
lunatics in the United Kingdom. This is
pretty disturbing stuff. It's
short, but you can hear the scuffle in the background.
Check this out
you act like that I mean, really?
Really?
Is this, you know, I said yesterday, is this where we are?
Is this really where we are as a country right now?
Let me say what happened in the United Kingdom.
I don't know what happens here too.
They supposedly share some of our enlightened values,
freedom,
freedom of speech,
freedom to protest,
freedom to assemble.
But apparently the anti-Trump,
anti-civil liberties,
psychotic left,
that's supposed to be,
you know,
the enlightened ones,
the ones interested in diversity and so-called tolerance in the United Kingdom and here, free democracies.
In our case, a republic, they have a parliamentary system,
obviously, over there.
Is this where we are?
I ask you as some of the leftists that listen to the show,
I get your emails.
Like I said, I want to thank the Bernie supporter last week. Very nice email. It's like, listen,
I voted for Bernie. I listened to your show. I think you're on target. You're welcome here anytime.
But I just want to, I want you to understand how disturbing that video is in context of two points
and why we're seeing what we're seeing. Because again, you know, anybody can rant. Talk radio is
full of ranthers on the left and the right.
That's why I love shows like Mark Levin,
where he goes into deep detail on the legal implications,
constitutional implications.
But on this show, if I can't provide some context to it,
screaming and yelling is not going to do you any good.
I want to show you that video in context of two points.
Point number one is this.
Here's the difference between us and liberals.
And I'm not talking about the fringe elements.
Every movement has jerks.
We call our jerks out.
That's the difference.
The left embraces theirs.
But I'm talking about, largely,
the difference between conservatives and liberals.
Our ideology has an emergency break on its behavior.
We believe in big R God-given rights,
those big R God-given rights. Whether you believe in God or not, you still have those. It doesn't require you to believe in God. I want to be clear on that. But we believe in God-given big R rights
that are not granted to you by government. They're granted to you by your creator.
You are born with those rights.
They may be enshrined through a governing document.
We have a constitution.
The United Kingdom does not.
They use case law.
But there are other documents, the Magna Carta and others, that speak to some form of higher power rights given to you by a creator.
Why is that relevant to this older gentleman being assaulted
by a bunch of anti-Trump lunatics?
Because, ladies and gentlemen, if you believe in God-given rights,
you believe that that higher power is given those rights
even to your ideological enemies.
And it creates an emergency brake on your behavior that liberals don't have.
Folks, 99.999% of the people listening to my show right now would never in a thousand years consider doing what happened to this old man this older
gentleman ever just ask yourself you know i i say to my my daughter a lot my older daughter uh
who i obviously love to death i say to her and i i heard this somewhere so forgive me for not
attributing it because i just can't remember.
But I said, one of the great ways to teach your kid a sense of morality is to tell them,
imagine you're watching yourself in a movie.
Are you proud of what that character did or are you embarrassed?
And I thought, gosh, that's a great way to remove yourself from a situation you're in,
at least psychologically for a moment, to interpret your behavior through a different
lens.
you're in, at least psychologically for a moment, to interpret your behavior through a different lens. I know for a fact, my listeners, if that was them on that video, they'd be like, oh my gosh,
did I do that? I pushed an old man to the ground? Not the liberals. There are liberals, I'm telling
you right now, watch my show, the Media Matters lunatics and others, who think that's great.
matters lunatics and others who think that's grace oh this guy's a nazi he's a trump supporter he deserved it okay we have an emergency break in our behavior that emergency break is the almighty
that is a sin violence in the absence of self-defense is a sinful behavior.
Punching someone in the face because you disagree with them politically,
there is zero, there's no excuse for that.
There's not, I'm sorry.
And listen, once in a while I get it, once in a very blue moon,
I get an email from someone who's like, it's time for a revolution.
Wrong show.
Time for a revolution.
Wrong show.
I'm not really sure you understand what violence up close and personal looks like.
You know what?
I've gone into that too much.
I don't need to get into this again.
I'm just telling you, having spent a lifetime chasing bad guys down, having them hit me with iron boards, my first night out
of patrol, get into a foot pursuit with a guy who took a shot at us, spending most of
my life on mats taking beatings from bigger and stronger guys.
I'm not sure you really understand how horrible violence is.
The left has no emergency break on this. They see violence as a tool to suppress opposing political voices.
And sadly, many of them, not all, many of them will celebrate that video.
While I can guarantee almost all of you watching that are disgusted by it.
That's takeaway number one.
We believe in God-given rights,
even when you disagree with us,
which requires that I allow you to peacefully assemble
because I can't get in the way.
Those are rights granted by God.
That I allow you to speak,
I can't get in the way.
Those are rights granted to you by God.
I allow you to petition the government. Those are rights granted to you by God. I allow you to petition
the government. Again,
rights given to you by God, I can't get in the way of that.
And that I allow you to practice
your religion freely,
even when it's not mine.
Because God granted you
those rights, even if you don't believe in him.
The second disturbing portion and takeaway of that video is an explanation of why they do what
they do i kind of hinted to it in takeaway number one but quickly summed up for you is in this
bullet point i use a lot when i speak in the media about it the difference between us and liberals
is we believe
that these are, in most cases, I mean, like I said, there are fringe elements who are just bad
people all around. But in most cases, we believe liberals are people with bad ideas. But these
people, their rights have to be respected no matter what. These are God-given rights. But
these are people with genuinely bad ideas.
And we confront them using our rights to air our ideas.
But that's not how they feel about you.
Don't ever equate the two.
They feel that you are people, bad people, with ideas.
There's a big difference. We think they're people with bad
ideas. They think you're bad people with ideas. They are not trying to combat the ideology.
Oh, sure they are, Dan. Really? That's not what they did to that guy.
They just decided to attack him. him why because he was a bad person
now when you understand the left and critical theory and their nonsense do you understand why
they say things joe like speech is violence wait i thought they were trying to combat us on the
field of ideas if you're trying to combat people on the field of ideas, which we should do, you make your argument, I make mine, then how is speech violence?
How is speech violence?
They don't believe that.
They think speech is violence because they want to justify that you're a bad person with ideas.
They want to justify attacking you.
I mean, literally attacking you.
And destroying you.
No, no, no, that speech was violence. And we can't allow violence, so don you and destroying you. No, no, no.
That speech was violence.
And we can't allow violence, so don't open your mouth.
Joe, you know, I know what you're doing.
Joe stays very quiet when he says I'm on a roll because he lets me just go.
But as the audience ombudsman, I sincerely, does that make sense what I just said?
Absolutely, yeah.
Sure.
Because, you know, you and I have been doing this show four years, and this has been a running theme through this.
You cannot, there have been a lot of great thinkers
who have broken down the ideology of the left.
I've read a ton of stuff, and it all has this common theme
that this is the difference between us and them,
that they sincerely believe you morally should be shut down
from the battlefield of ideas because you are a bad person
and many not all but many of them feel the violence is justified to stop you because what
you would have said would lead to some sort of violence which is absurd bingo thank you very
very troubling and ladies and gentlemen i say it because as i said to you yesterday when
i went on a little bit about how damaging this case was to the republic i am sincerely candidly
from the bottom of my heart deeply concerned about the direction this country the united kingdom and
other free democracies constitutional republics parliament to parliamentarian systems around the world I am genuinely concerned about the direction
we're going
this stuff is becoming justified
by cultural elites
you had Bette Midler tweet this morning
something about shiving someone
a shiv like a prison shiv
what?
I mean this cultural elites
academics, thought leaders
dreaded air quotes, media personalities condoning this stuff.
God forbid you did this on Fox News, you would be fired tomorrow.
I'm telling you, 100,000% certainty.
If you were caught at a rally, uninstigated, and not in any way self-defense, beating the snot out of someone, I would be done.
Done-zo.
Off the air.
Done.
Finished.
Justifiably so.
Not on the left.
They ignore this stuff.
Really sad. Okay. I got one last story it's it's a good one so don't go
anywhere maybe i'll get to two more but this is about minimum wage and again it just shows
it just shows the complete hypocrisy love you should wake up every morning and say to yourself
thank god i'm a conservative or a libertarian really because no you're on the right side of
truth the rest is just garbage can we i wonder if they look i can create a shadow
on my face by blocking the light in front of me all right i just realized that sometimes i do that
when i read these things no good you got to keep the light this can't have only on this show can
we do this we have this i'm the me and paul and joe run the whole show there's no executive
producer you can't say that on the air. I can say whatever I want.
It's my show.
I love it.
Although once in a while, Paul will get on me after the show and be like,
maybe you should have said that one a couple times.
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Okay.
This is an interesting minimum wage story.
Not because it's about minimum wage or wonky economics, but because it's about, again,
leftists telling you things constantly that are just not true.
Tim Warstall, who does really terrific work at the Washington Examiner, he does really
excellent economic pieces.
When I see them, I try to pick them out and put them on the show because they explain again how liberals lie to
you constantly. Title of the piece, which will be in the show notes, it is definitely worth your
time, is yes, a nationwide $15 minimum wage would be quite damaging. And the premise of the piece
is this. There's a new study out that's exhaustive on the effects of minimum wage in the Quarterly
Journal of Economics, which is a reputable economics journal it's not like you know people magazine or anything it's a very
reputable journal and in the journal that comes away with the conclusion paradoxically that the
effects of minimum wage are muted now some of you if you stop there you're like well what do you mean liberals must be right
liberals are always saying oh minimum wage isn't going to hurt anything it's only going to help
people right no no it doesn't stop there it says paradoxically the effects of minimum wage are
muted as long as the minimum wage relay stays at or relatively below what the overall median wage is.
Let me translate that for you.
Yeah, please do.
It basically says minimum wage isn't a problem as long as it's not needed.
But the leftists, that's exactly what it says.
Almost keep this headline in mind.
Dan Bongino.
You know, Matt Palumbo, if you're listening to the show,
resident fact checker.
Paul, remind me to send this to him.
I want him to write up a piece in easy to understand language. Again,
just like Warstall's piece. Why this, this is the headline. Minimum wage is great as long as
nobody needs it. That's the report. But liberals are already using this report to suggest that the
minimum wage could be higher. Now, without getting into overly complicated median mode,
averages, wages, and summer wages, part-time wages, the report essentially says this.
That a lot of these employers that employ people at the low end of the income spectrum, Joe, fast food, low-skilled labor, some forms of administrative work.
Some is very complicated
have your bookkeepers who have you know tremendous math skills right but some forms of administrative
you know uh people who may be in the tourism industry uh you know that the people at the
low you get what i'm saying yeah that the minimum wage doesn't really hurt them as long as it's what
they're already paying so they suggest in other in other words, that minimum wage, if you up it to $15 an hour,
will be a big problem only because it's above what they're already paying.
When the federal minimum wage, which is $7, what is it, $7.25 an hour?
When it's below what the market wage they're already paying is,
there are relatively few negative interactions.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
In other words, you're forcing to pay employers
largely what they're already paying people anyway.
Supply and demand.
Some lady sent me a screenshot.
She's like, you make the most incredible faces
on your YouTube show.
She sent me a screenshot.
I mean, here's one for you.
The lady who sent that to me.
I get excited about
this stuff because the report, liberals were already saying, but the median wage dictated,
according to this new research, the minimum wage could go up a few bucks an hour, according to
this, and it wouldn't lead to any negative ramifications. But think about why they're
saying that, Joe. They're saying that because employers are already
paying people a median wage of already higher than the minimum which is called supply and demand
the supply for their labor is small enough that the demand forces them to raise wages above
the federally mandated floor so they're just they're saying that the minimum wage doesn't hurt right
now because employers are already paying people much that makes sense because it's not needed yeah
but liberals are then saying therefore we should wait raise the minimum wage and they're using this
report that's not what the report says the report doesn't say that it says that the minimum wage is
largely irrelevant until you make the minimum wage high enough like 15 an hour that it says that the minimum wage is largely irrelevant until you make the minimum wage high
enough like 15 an hour that it starts to have sincere negative effects on both employment wages
and hours but you will i guarantee you you will hear liberals say this now when you read war
sterles war sterles piece you'll see why liberals are conflating median wages from full-time workers for part-time and seasonal workers.
In other words, full-time worker wages, Joe, obviously are always going to be higher.
Yeah.
For obvious reasons than part-time or seasonal workers.
That goes without saying.
Always.
You're a full-time 40-hour week.
Your wages are going to be because you probably have more skills and you're working year-round.
Seasonal can be tourism, things like that.
But liberals are suggesting that the report says the medium the minimum wage could be 15 an hour
because that median wage amongst full-time workers is so high that look it's not going to do any
damage let's just raise the minimum wage because wages are already that high no that they're not
already that high right they're leaving out seasonal workers and some temporary part-time workers and that
median wage using this scale is closer to 10 bucks an hour in other words capitalism is already won
we don't need the government they're already paying people above it right it does not back
up your liberal argument please read the piece i can't extend to you enough the takeaway to simplify it minimum
wage is great as long as it's not necessary thank you from the piece i was forgetting here's a quote
from the piece this is how he leaves it war stall the bite when he when he says the bite by the way
he's talking about the bite minimum wage laws would have on the economy. The bite is, in and of itself,
the trying to push wages above the rates
that are already being paid, like I just said.
So the finding that a minimum wage
about what is already being paid isn't a problem
really doesn't tell us, it doesn't tell us at all,
that pushing wages up by 40%,
i.e. the $15 an hour minimum wage, won't be a problem.
But that is the argument Warstall predicts large numbers of people will start using.
Again, minimum wage is not an issue as long as it doesn't go above what the capitalism free market wage already is.
In other words, we didn't need the government.
Companies are already paying people more.
But yes, count on liberals to point
to this research study oh hey i can't leave without doing this the tiananmen square uh also
it's it is the 70th anniversary of d-day so i want to leave you on a on a laudatory note to
the heroes of our past um first i neglected to mention, it's the 30th anniversary of the student protest
in Tiananmen Square.
Many of you are familiar with the iconic picture of the, I mean, incredibly brave, you want
to talk about a titanium spine, the student standing in front of the Chinese tank in Tiananmen
Square.
Just incredible, unparalleled bravery.
We have a piece up from the Washington Examiner today,
never forget Tiananmen Square as well.
It's worth your time, worth reading.
But it really speaks to the almost unimaginable bravery.
I say that unimaginable because a lot of us can't imagine that.
We live in the United States.
I mean it literally, not figuratively.
It's hard to
imagine what it would be like for a u.s tank rolling down the street trying to take away your
right to protest and you like the chinese student in tiananmen standing there blocking its path
that picture is just so iconic and 30 30 years later it's worth remembering what happened there
now i think it makes a lot of sense why I'm constantly bringing up this threat to our
liberties by violent liberal activists and speech suppressors and police state tyranny.
You know, ladies and gentlemen, I don't bring up this Spygate stuff and liberals attacking
us and AOC's conference of state rights, not God-given rights, because I get bored before
the show.
I bring it up because this is my heart.
It's my passion.
It's what matters to me.
I gave up my career in the Secret Service
to fight for this stuff.
But my fight, honestly, is nothing,
nothing pales in comparison to the bravery
of that Chinese student at Tiananmen.
Also, I had a grandfather
was involved in the Normandy invasion invasion he did not land at omaha
he landed utah beach which was uh not as violent as omaha they had their own issues of course over
there but this is the 75th anniversary of the d-day invasion now folks many of you have seen
the pictures now some of you've seen movies about it, Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan. Can you imagine for a moment what it must have been like for our forces getting ready to hit the beach, Omaha Beach, right?
On these Higgins boats, these little boats where the front gate drops down and Nazi German fire is taking out the first two or three lines of people and then having to go
four or five hundred yards onto a relatively flat beach where Nazi gunners have just about
every inch of the beach covered with heavy arms fire while your friends next to you are being
mowed down. And keep in mind, as I heard this morning on the news it was a great point
a lot of the soldiers there had just gotten out of boot camp they were some of them were
accountants school teachers some of them were kids who just gotten out of school these were not
most of the casualties were not career soldiers who'd been in the military for 20 and 30 years. These were kids.
But some of the bravest souls among us.
I saw this picture on Twitter this morning because it was a picture taken on a Higgins boat.
And if you look in the upper left,
it's Sergeant Sandy Martin, upper left-hand corner.
But that looks like a pack of Lucky Strikes.
Remember Lucky Strikes?
I bring that up because that picture was taken likely hours before he died, before they hit
the beach.
I don't know Sandy Martin.
I never met him.
But I do know my grandfather, who was on Utah Beach.
He did not die over there.
He died later.
But you are truly, I'm not a huge fan of Tom Brokaw, but I'll tell you what, this line,
the greatest generation, you're darn right.
God bless you, patriots all over.
You freedom fighters everywhere.
God bless you.
You have my sincere respect.
I'll see you on the...
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