The Dan Bongino Show - The Two FBIs (Ep. 2461)

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 All America all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. You know, I've been talking about it for days now. Well, for years, but for the past couple of days, because of the state of the union and other things, I've been talking about contrast, contrasts. Not just a black shirt on the brick background, which really looks black on that background.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm not just talking about that. I've been talking about how contrasts matter. They make some stimulus, even though it's the same, look more profound when surrounded by another stimulus. A diamond on a black background, I've set it off and looks even more lustrous. It's the same diamond. Contrasts in the state of the union matter, because you had the Democrats out there on the lawn where about 10 people showed up for the people's state of the union where they're singing
Starting point is 00:00:56 and you got an Oregon frog people on stage and all this other bullshit. Then you got President Trump, you know, listing off a thousand great things he did over the past year, backing it up with facts and even CBS News fact checking it is true now. However, contrasts matter everywhere. And one of the things when I first came back I addressed early when I did that hit with Haley before I even did my own show was I told them I was going to give him a year. I was going to flip the calendar at the FBI and go in. and make a lot of necessary changes. But folks, I think you're seeing yesterday after two major breaking news stories,
Starting point is 00:01:42 which I'm going to cover, I think you're seeing what I said on Haley's show about there being two FBI's. I was right. I lived it. And you're going to see more of this. These problems are not going to be fixed over the course of a year or two years.
Starting point is 00:02:05 This is going to take three, four, five, maybe two terms to fix. It is taken probably close to 20 years to destroy. And I'm going to walk you through what I mean. So you understand the process and why this is not going to happen quickly. The destruction. And we have to make some, we all, all of us, because I'm just a citizen too.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I'm not a monarch. I wasn't a monarch when I was there. I was a piece in a bigger puzzle. An important piece, a piece I cherished, but just a piece and a puzzle. We all are going to have to make some big girl and big boy decisions going forward because the stories that came out yesterday, again, another one, are just mind-boggling. And I saw it for a year. I got a lot to get to, including some love notes from the psychopaths out there.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yes, I'll show you what I get. We have a work phone in the office. Someone must like put the number out there. So I'll show you some of the love notes we got from people, the anti-Jew crowd and elsewhere, who's really upset that I simply have an opinion out there. You're not allowed to have an opinion if you stand against anti-Semitism. You're not allowed to have that. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The people always talk about, hey, man, you're not allowed to notice this stuff. We're not allowed to talk about Israel and Jews. You're not allowed to talk about. That's all you talk about all the time everywhere, 24-7. Meanwhile, it's just a small portion of my show fighting against. against this stuff. I'll show you what I mean coming up in a second. A lot to talk about today. Senator Mike Lee, too, coming up in about an hour and a half. He is going to give a PhD manifesto on the filibuster and the Save Act. Hey, I think our health care system reacts instead of prepares.
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Starting point is 00:05:10 So before I get back to contrast and the two FBI's, we're all going to have to make a decision, folks. I said all the time when I was over there, it's not my FBI. It's not your FBI. It's not the FBI agent's FBI. It's ours. We pay for it.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So we have to make some decisions going forward. First, a couple love, notes we got yesterday. This is this kind of stuff we deal with all day here. You know, sometimes Paul is like, ah, I don't put this stuff out. No, I want you to see what you deal with it. So forgive the language. I'll skip over most of it. But if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, you can see it on the screen if you're watching on Rumble. Dan, you're angry about Candace Owen. I thought it was Owens. You go F yourself. Dan, Redneck, wannabe, scumbag, pedophile protector, son of a bee. You, you go F yourself. You go F yourself. You go F yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You're a part of the deep state. Yes, definitely. You know me guys. Fellas, right, Justin? Big deep stay guy. That was my thing. I definitely gave up my number one ranked live stream podcast and radio show to leave and go. That's 100% right.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Here's it. Here he goes on. Here's another one. Y'all stand no chance in the midterms, you posse fire boot liquor. Now, this is probably someone from overseas who doesn't know how to spell. I don't know what a, I know what a posse, like posse commentatus, a P-O-S-S-S-Y. I think you spelled that wrong. You're too much of a B to admit you're Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You're like Y-O-R-E. Can you little, now he's got the Aussie part of back to Ossie, which I think he, the American people are done with this administration. Really? That'll be a shocker to the 64% of people who just said they love Donald Trump's State of the Union address and his approval rating close to 50% based on some of the polls. That's a shocker to everyone else. You see how the black pillars and the whole, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:01 We hate the Jews crowd and we love to disturb. You see how they all spin it all up together. They all have the same agenda to destroy the country and divide us all up. Folks, it happened again yesterday. I just want you to be aware. There are a lot of scam accounts on social media. Here was one of them. Of course, I spoke out.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't, listen, I have the right to win opinion like anyone else. You don't have to like it. I think attacking Erica Kirk is an abomination. The woman lost her husband. And I have an opinion on it. And that's okay. you can have an opinion on it too. However, you saw this come out yesterday from a Simon Gaddick,
Starting point is 00:07:36 which is an obvious scam account. These are people who were paid to call Candace Owens evil or a demon. Whatever you think of her smearing someone for money is morally bankrupt, which is strange because the exact same message came out from a bunch of other people, which makes it appear that they were paid. And who's on there? Cat turd, Graham Allen. Oh, look, Bongito report.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Guys, who cast that check? Jasmine, you're the business manager. Did you get a check from anyone? Are you sure? No one paid you to say that Candice? You're sure of it. Jasmine is shaking her head. She's, he says he's waiting for his cut.
Starting point is 00:08:10 He's like, how did you guys leave me out of this? Dana Lash, Laura Lumer, Steve Day Show, Dave Rubin. Apparently, we were all paid. And of course, this rocketed around the internet. And this is why I say all the time, I would rather a smaller, leaner audience of sane people than a bigger audience that includes morons. If you follow this account, this absolute dipshit, who, by the way, Laura Luma's threatening
Starting point is 00:08:33 to sue, and I hope she does, because it's obviously fake, you got taken again. Here's Kanakoa, the Gray, with a tweet. It was an AI-generated thing. Here's a link to the original AI-generated fake email you just saw. Who mindlessly shared this nonsense? The answer is all of the Jew haters out there. There is the fake email that started this whole thing. So if you fell for that, you're a moron.
Starting point is 00:08:57 and I'm asking you again, like I've asked you over the past couple of days. I'm asking you kindly. I may be the only host in the business asking this. Guys, have you heard this before? I don't want you here. I don't want you. I don't want to, I don't want to, folks, here's how this business works, okay? I'm a businessman.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I have a business called Bongino Inc. Okay? The business is ad-supported because I choose to keep it free for you. I don't want to put it behind a paywall. We sell views and eyeball. I'm the only guy telling you, I don't want your eyeballs or views. I don't want a quarter of a penny to profit in my pocket from stupid people like this watching the show. Don't go away, man, girl, like Motley Cruz said.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Just go away. We don't want you. We've heard all your bullshit. We've seen your stupid arguments. We get your clawing at the face and your rage and every single thing. Hey, man, I'm a happy warrior. Nobody likes you. Your dog doesn't even like you.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Your dog, you think about it. Dogs love everyone. I come home, Lucy, if you, God forbid, left Lucy in a hot car for 10 minutes. You open a door. She's still licking your face. Your dog doesn't even like you. Your own dog hates you. You can get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I don't care. I give absolutely zero Fs on the F-giving scale. You're an idiot. No one wants you in their chat room. I don't even want you talking about my show. Because then smart people are going to be like, my gosh, this moron listens to that show. I can't listen. You are a cancer. Just go away. Just go away. It's okay. I know you can't stay away from my show because I own you idiots. I know it and I know that
Starting point is 00:10:41 bothers you as you rage out. His audience has gone down. Really, can you do bad? You can actually look at the view count, you know, that's, many are you idiots? It's a great irony. The audience is exactly where we needed to be. Exactly where it was when I left. You can actually look at it yourself. And a lot of that is you morons because you just can't go away. The great irony is you could shrink you if you would just leave. I actually want that. Please go away. Get it, got it good. I'm sorry if you got suckered by that bullshit account that puts out all kinds of bullshit, but that's what happens on Twitter. And by the way, I am in no way to be absolutely crystal clear advocating in any way for censorship. I don't believe in boycotts on that front or
Starting point is 00:11:29 else. Let them put out their stuff as long as they don't break the law. I don't know. We'll see what happens if there's a defamation case that goes forward. Out of it, it's just bullshit. I don't feel the need to say anything more about it. It's fairly obvious. Okay, I was talking about contrast before. So there were huge breaking news stories yesterday. Now, I want to be clear, I've been out obviously for a couple of months now. So the analysis I'm giving here on the breaking news from yesterday, some of it is based on information I'm reading in the media. I don't go back and call in and, you know, abused taxpayer-funded privileges at all, okay? So I'm reading what you're reading in the media. But having said that, I have a different perspective on things. So I made the point
Starting point is 00:12:14 early on when I got back on the air that we have a real problem, a huge problem. And we saw it over and over and over again. There's two FBI right now. I saw it up close and personal. You have this one FBI of, you know, VCAC agents, violent crimes against children that go and, you know, fight against child predators. You have violent crime agents, go out there and, you know, investigate Hobzac robberies, bank robberies, gangs, RICO cases, organized crime, Vicar cases. You have a bunch of white-collar folks out there preventing grandma from getting ripped off by, you know, crypto schemes and Nigerian fraud schemes. You get the point. A lot of these guys and women are just doing their job.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They have nothing to do with any of this stuff. It's just a fact. Then you have the other FBI, led by a bunch of lunatics like Jim Comey, Christopher Ray, who was just pathetic. And the more I learn about that, the worse it is. Just pathetic. I mean, just sad.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Andy McCabe, Peter Stroke, Lisa Page, some agents, some not. Just a bunch of, you know, pre-step in these others. We need folks who allowed the FBI you pay for because it's yours. It's not theirs. They don't own. it. They don't own it. You see like the agents association now coming out, you know, responding to
Starting point is 00:13:28 cash having to fire more agents yesterday. In addition to others that were fired, you know, well, this is going to, you know, maybe, this is going to nothing. Like, don't make stupid decisions and you don't have anything to worry about. Contrasts. We need a law enforcement counter-terror, counter-espionage organization. We need it. I'm going to show you a case in a minute. There's no choice. The country will blow up within weeks if we just dumped all of it. However, is the FBI the answer going forward? That's going to be for you all to decide, folks.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I am not the decision maker here. I have an opinion as a citizen. I'll give it to you like anyone else. But I'm a citizen now too. I'm one of 330 million people. These are level 10 decisions. Level 10 decisions where there's a shitty choice and a shitty choice. And which one's the shittier choice is not obvious at this point. So here's what happened
Starting point is 00:14:30 yesterday. I'm going to give you a couple breaking news stories. I'm going to show you the contrast of what I mean with these two FBI's, okay? Here's the first story. It's kind of a good news, bad news segment, but the bad news is really bad. Here's a Fox segment, David Spunt and Brett Bear. This broke last night. There was a young covering of subpoenas. That's important, by the way, subpoenas. It doesn't appear warrants involved subpoenas. There's not the same thing. Subpoenas for Cash Patel and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles phone records before they entered in their positions that was just uncovered. Watch the Fox report from last night and I'll tell you what I think happened to you. Check this out. Director Cash Patel out with an allegation that the prior FBI, FBI obtained his phone records and
Starting point is 00:15:15 not only his. What can't tell us about that? Right, this has been breaking in the last hour or so. We are told that according to Cash Patel, the FBI director, the prior bureau leadership obtained his phone records and phone records to current White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, back in 2022 and 2023. This eventually led into the Jack Smith Special Counsel investigation into then former President Donald Trump. We're told that some of these records are just toll records which don't have specific information other than times and dates. They don't have the actual content of calls. But two sources in the FBI say that Susie Wiles' attorney agreed to be recorded by FBI agents in 2023. She did not agree. We've reached out to her for comment. FBI director Patel in a statement to Fox News calls this outrageous and deeply disturbing. And I will add, Brett, that we are told at least 10 bureau employees have been fired just today over this incident with more potentially to come.
Starting point is 00:16:16 With more to come. Now, I want to be clear on this from, again, I'm dealing with news reports at this point like you are. We had a policy when I was there of find, investigate, take action. The investigate and take action part takes time because it has to be done correctly. What you don't want is to do something prematurely and they wind up getting their job back and back pay and all of that. yet there's a process in government and it's inherently slow. You don't have to like it. It's just true.
Starting point is 00:16:52 However, the fine portion, there were, when you look at the two FBI, this is important you understand this. No one advertises that they're from the old school weaponized FBI. Some of the cases are fairly obvious. You just look at the case and who did this and who did that. Cases like what we saw yesterday with Cash Patel and Susie Wiles having their phone record subpoenaed. From what I see in the reporting, throw up that Reuters thing, if you could, just put it up on the screen while I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:17:22 From what I see here, there doesn't appear to be any actual predicate to do that. FBI obtained Patel and Sukegee's phone records during the Biden administration. But there's no predicate, at least not in the publicly available reporting. Folks, the FBI has a process. I think you know this, but I'll just state it for the, you know, folks out there on the left who don't seem to understand this. The FBI just can't willy-nilly open up a case on anyone for, open up a case on Justin because they don't like his hoodie. That's not the way that works.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You have to have a predicate. Preliminary investigation can turn it to a full investigation. It can be stopped if there's nothing there. You have to have a predicate. The point here is what the hell is the predicate? You're investigating Cash Patel and Susie Wiles. Why again? It appears that this was pretty well hidden.
Starting point is 00:18:15 and this would happen all the time. The stuff does not jump out to you. They were prohibited access records. We had to go through that whole process. Dig that up, change that process. We had to eliminate an entire squad in the Washington field office. Employees were terminated. There are investigations going on right now into this stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:37 This stuff was not delivered to anyone on a silver platter. We found hidden stuff in rooms. told us about. Nobody volunteered that. We had to go out and be proactive. And I'm guessing that's what happened here on this tranche of information that it was probably secreted away. And someone said, hey, what's this? Oh, lookie here. They surveilled Cash's phone records and Susie, too. This is obviously the bad FBI I told you about. So Cash, according to the report, fired 10 employees. I don't know how many were agents or support personnel. David Spunt says there's more to come. I'm sure there are. I'm certain there's going to be an
Starting point is 00:19:25 investigation again. I know, folks, that's the way the process works. There was an MSNBC segment last night. Forgive me, I asked the guys last minute and I'd want to delay the show. But I think it was Chris Hayes and Ted Liu, but you can look it up. It's all over social media. And Chris Hayes says something to Ted Lou like, well, you know, I assume this is all legitimate because, you know, warrants involved and a judge had to sign off of them. There's no indication that's the case at all. These were subpoenas. Those are not warrants.
Starting point is 00:19:53 They're not the same thing. They can't even get the story right. Here is the only talking point on this story that matters. Because it's the only point that matters. What the hell was the predicate to investigate Cash Patel and Susie Wiles? What was the predicate? I guarantee you you can't find one. You'll make it up.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I don't know. He had chicken at Chipotle instead of steak. What the hell does that be? Well, you know, chicken and the source of the chicken from Chipotle was a company that 10 years ago was, what the fuck are you talking about? Is that even real? This would happen all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:40 So now you've got, again, contrast. Contrast. and I'm glad everybody over there knows that if you're part of the weaponized side, that you're not going to be around in the FBI. It's not yours. It belongs to the taxpayer. And seemingly every other day when I was there, someone would come in with another case like this. But now, this is where we get to big boy decisions,
Starting point is 00:21:08 where we have to talk openly and honestly about what the future is. And stay tuned on this, by the way. remember we're one year in if you have no patience you're like i'm done screw the administration or do anything fine the show's not for you it's okay it's fine i'm just telling you like when the body of work is done i think you're going to have a good data set to say all right we get it but here's what happened yesterday as well this is a news report out of los angeles where and man everybody's innocent to proven guilty but the head of the unified school district and Los Angeles apparently has some real problems according to an FBI investigation that broke yesterday
Starting point is 00:21:54 right after the show. Check this out. To authorities. Now, from the air, we have not seen any FBI or law enforcement agents entering the home, but we do have a crew on the ground as well, and they tell us that they did see law enforcement, in fact, enter the home, and we'll be working to see what they may have found inside that home as this story continues to develop. Carvalho has been the chief of the nation's second largest school district since February. February of 2022, unanimously reappointed by the school board last year. Alarming, breaking news coming to our crews this morning, hearing that there are now a search warrant being served there at L-A-USD, the superintendent's home there in San Pedro.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Again, as Adrian has been mentioning, these are sealed search warrants. So what this investigation is about or related to, we do not know exactly what federal agents could be seeking here. The breaking news this morning, search warrants being served at the home and office of L-A-USD superintendent Alberto Carvalo. So not just do you have an FBI that I know haven't been there has disrupted a number of terror plots here and overseas with assistance there and is busy fighting against Chinese espionage and Russian espionage in the United States, necessary things, but you also have a
Starting point is 00:23:18 pretty big public corruption file. And again, for those of you, you know, who question it, that's fair. It's always fair. That's your job to question it. But now add this case, and again, everybody's entitled to the presumption of innocence in our republic. That's how it works. And that's how it should work.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You got the New Orleans mayor case. You got the Comey case still going on. I think that's on appeal right now. You have the James case, which, you know, again, FBI put together its investigation. You have the Bolton case. You had the Nuson's mayor, that you had the Newsom chief of staff, the public corruption portfolio.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Now you've got the L.A. unified school district. I know the wheels of justice are slow and, you know, people aren't satisfied. And you should never be satisfied. But there is a process. There is a process. And then you see cases like this and you think, man, what the hell's going on?
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then you see cases like this, Cash put this out yesterday on his on his Twitter account. Again, a critical case, major story. The FBI and our partners have arrested a former U.S. Air Force pilot who was allegedly training pilots in the Chinese military. This is a huge problem, folks. China's everywhere, everywhere all the time, trying to find a weakness in our chain mail. They're poking, they're prodding, and they're just waiting for a weakness to be able to
Starting point is 00:24:41 infiltrate our system and collapse it from the inside. And when I say system, I mean, from the grid. do industrial control systems, to ways to infiltrate and engage in adjut prop propaganda, they're always looking for it. So the question now becomes a level 10 decision that I put out for you in the audience. What do we do?
Starting point is 00:25:04 What do we do? One alternative would be develop the popular support and the House of Representatives and the Senate, get your representatives in a republic to scrap the whole operation and start from scratch. And a lot of you probably will shake your head and say, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:25:22 The other alternative is the alternative we have now where we fire, get rid of people, engage in these investigations, hopefully we get to an end of this stuff and see. Folks, there's no easy answer. There's no easy answer. Because the problem we're going to have that I noticed in government twice is government is just people. And you can change the name of,
Starting point is 00:25:47 of the FBI or the DEA or the marshals to whatever you want. The ETF, you can change it to the FTE. If you get bad people in charge, you're going to get the exact same stuff. The only answer in a republic is continued eternal vigilance and to win elections. That's it. That's why when people ask,
Starting point is 00:26:08 do you feel like over the last year the place is fixed? Nothing's ever fixed. It's government. Government is perpetually broken. The only thing you can do is put WD.40 on it. and patch stuff and hopefully win enough elections that you get a legacy of good people out there who can make generational change. They've been doing this for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:26:30 You see what we were dealing with over the course of the year while trying to prevent terror threats, Chinese espionage, gangs trying to crush the murder rate and a crime rate. You're dealing with subversive folks inside who don't want the good agents doing their job. They want to weaponize the damn place. That's what makes me suspicious, by the way, about all these meteor points. This was really convenient timing. Put up that BBC report. Right before Reuters puts out this story about the weaponized bad FBI,
Starting point is 00:26:59 surveilling cash in Susie Wiles' phone records, the president's chief of step. Oh, look, just convenient timing. FBI director's private jet used delay investigation. It's not a private jet. It's a public jet. It's the FBI jet. He's a required user. Like it or not, that's the rules.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He's a required user. Delay investigations. It's crazy, by the way, when they talk about, They delayed an investigation due to his personal use, but what they don't, and what they conveniently, like, gloss over in a lot of these media reports is it wasn't a personal use, this story right before the bombshell came out about surveillance. It was him going up to the 9-11 ceremony representing the FBI in New York at the World Trade Center. You know how I know that trip happened?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Because I was on the jet and went up with him when it happened. We were representing the FBI. It was just about a day after Charlie was shot. What do you think we were up there on personal time? I don't live in New York. I live in Florida. Either just cash. It was the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Wasn't a personal trip. Convenient timing, correct? This is what you're dealing with. And then the black pillars pick it up in an effort to make you believe nothing's ever happening. the Trump administration's getting stonewalled. Stuff is happening. It just happens slowly
Starting point is 00:28:24 because finding this stuff is not easy. Oh, man. It's just, it's going to be a never-ending battle. I'm telling you, man, this place is not going to be fixed overnight. It's going to take years and years. And we have to make some serious choices. Serious choices. Is another federal agency doing this stuff the answer?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Maybe it is. Maybe it is. How's the transition going to happen? but you don't have good people. You're just going to have another ABC DEF agency doing the same damn thing. I know it's not a great answer, but it's the truth. I'm not here to bullshit you. Let me take a quick break, and I want to get back to contrast again on a bit of a lighter note
Starting point is 00:29:10 because the Democrats are in a full-blown panic. Have you seen the media coverage over the state of the union debacle? They are in an absolute nuclear meltdown right now. This is like Chernobyl for them. realize their state of the union antics just completely blew up in their face. The contrast now are getting worse by the day, and now they're trying to save themselves with additional distractions. And now they've got to deal with, keep the head, now they've got to deal with Bill and Hillary Clinton given depositions in the Epstein case today. This is just,
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Starting point is 00:32:30 and the sane, rational people that I'm really proud to have here and I'm proud to represent you in the space. But contrasts matter in politics more than anything because they create these binary decisions, this or that. Binary decisions are really easy.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Human beings don't love a lot of choices. Yes, they do. No, they don't. Look at the mounds of data on it. human beings do not like, you know, cable offerings with 65,000 channels because it's almost too much choice. They like a good amount of choice, but not too much. Bynaries are really easy. So it's up to us to create these binaries.
Starting point is 00:33:05 You either have this or you have that. And imagery, sound bites and snapshots make it really easy. So this was the never forget the contrasting. If you don't understand that, politics is always going to like allude your analysis. Contrasts really matter. That's why the Dems are freaking out. This stuff went viral. The frog stuff we played, them screaming outside.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Nobody's showing up, but there's People's State of the Union. And now the Democrats are singing again. Please stop singing. Please stop singing. Listen, singing for me, I will seriously fracture a glass in your office only to mess around. Please stop singing. Here they are singing again. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:33:58 All right. I was going to play more. You get it. That was at the People's State of the Union again. Why are they, I don't know, I really, I'm not messing with you folks. I don't understand. Why are they always singing? Do you guys know, do you have any idea?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Why are you? I don't understand how you think this appeals to like sane people. They don't want to hear you singing on stage all the time. What are you doing? Oh, there's like a level on top of the camera. The other day, the camera was like this. And I don't know how they made up for it. So Guy had a level on top and he's like, I don't like it there.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Well, if it bothers you, I didn't even know it was up there, but that's okay. Are you? There you go. Oh, am I? Sorry, I was looking at. Now, contrast, here is the State of the Union. Put up the picture of Chief Warren Officer Eric Slover, getting the Medal of Honor. This is what happened at the State of the Union.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Contrast it with the Democrats out on the lawn with nobody there singing like a bunch of crazed lunatics and dancing around another event in frog costumes. Look at this guy. An American hero, Eric Slover, Chinook Pilot. Ladies and gentlemen, leave this picture up for a lot. a moment. To Eric Slover, one big salute, brother. God bless you, man. Bravery, I can't even imagine. I wish I could. Look at the face on this guy. Folks, if you, for those in the chat,
Starting point is 00:35:25 any, yes or no, you've been in the military, you ever dealt with special forces, guys? Talking to a whole portfolio from Delta, Rangers, seals, power rescue, You ever dealt with Green Berets? You ever dealt with these guys? I did a lot because we would use them for QRFs. We look at a chat, blowing up, American flags. When I would go overseas with a protectee, you know, President Bush or someone else or President Obama,
Starting point is 00:35:54 the quick reaction force we would use, in addition to our SWAT team known as Cat and the Secret Service, we would typically take special forces guys. So we would deal with them all the time. They all have that look. That look, you know. know the look. If you're listening on Apple and Spotify, you know the look. Chief Foreign Officer Eric Slovers got that look right there. If this was America in an image, this is the
Starting point is 00:36:18 image. I am not, I don't want to put any kind of political label on this gentleman at all. I don't care about his politics. He's a hero. I don't care who we voted for at all. God bless you, sir. Don't give a damn about your voting record. But what I do care about is I know the MAGA movement Republican movement honors guys like this. While the left, not all, but many of them continuously attack our military. And he was by singing and dancing outside the long. Contrast matter. Look at that look.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I will never forget being a Bogram Air Force base doing a visit for Obama, being the lead advance. And it was a Purple Heart ceremony. And this, I believe he was Delta Force operator. True story was about to get, I don't know, like his hundredth purple heart. I'm probably being a bit hyperbolic, but it was a lot. and President Obama was going to give it to him at Bogram. And he had his rifle on him, his stick on him, right?
Starting point is 00:37:14 And I remember the staff were coming up to me and saying, hey, you know, you probably shouldn't go in the room with the rifle on it. I was like, are you shitting me, bro? You really think I'm going to tell this guy? This guy had that look. You think I'm going to tell this guy to put his rifle down? He said, are you crazy? So I went to the mill aid at the time who happened to be a Navy seal.
Starting point is 00:37:35 and I said, hey, man, this guy's going in there with the gun, end the story. And that was the end of that. He walked in there with the gun. Are you nuts? I'm telling this guy to put it. That reminds me of that's the look. That's why don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, F around with American special forces. Or the American military in general, but definitely not our special forces.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Do you guys ever see that tweet that went out? I don't know if it's real or not, but about the, uh, Cuban intelligence guy after we took Maduro. He was like, I don't know what happened. A couple loud noises. I couldn't see anything. They were like ghosts. They came in. A bunch of people died on our side. Yes, yes. These guys trained their entire lives under the harshness of conditions for maybe a 10-minute operation or an hour-long operation that you're just not prepared for. Folks, I did a lot of training between NYPD and Secret Service and even FBI had to re-qualify with my gun like anyone else.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Here's my training compared to, if you're listening to Apple Spotify, I'm making the little, who's there? I forget about it. I can't even fit it on camera. It's not even close. It's not even close. I've seen that look. I've seen that look.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Contrasts. That's us. That'll always be us. And that's why we need to always stay unified as a country, because there were real threats out there. That allegation of basically a counterintelligence case with this American who was allegedly training Chinese pilots on their advanced fighter platforms, this is just a small piece of a massive threat to the United States. And we should, argue and debate within our party about the direction of our party. It's healthy. But when it comes to defending America and making sure our kids have a country to go to live in as we move forward, we got to link arms in that one. I want to say a big exclamation point. Finally, someone did it,
Starting point is 00:40:00 folks. Someone did it. Someone did what? I have been talking about this. When I was overworking for the government, couldn't speak out about political issues. One of the the things that was driving me freaking bananas was the government shutdown over the Democrats wanting more money for Obamacare that they said was going to save you money. Which story is it? Obamacare is going to save you a bunch of money and cut costs. By the way, give us more money. The expenses are skyrocketing, quote.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I don't know why that particular thing drove me crazy, but I couldn't believe more Republicans weren't making the case like, wait, you're shutting down the government for more money for Obamacare when you said it would cost us less money? How does that even make sense? Someone finally did it. Someone finally did it. Mark Wayne Mullen, United States senators, talking up on the hill yesterday, Republican, obviously. And Bernie Sanders interrupts him because Bernie Sanders knows Mark Wayne Mullen is making this exact point.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Congratulations, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't know if you're the first one to bring it up, but we need more of this. Here he is like, hey, what do you mean you need more money for Obamacare? I thought this was supposed to save us money. And Bernie knows they've got a problem tries to shut them down. Check this out. We can agree that it is absolutely not affordable. 100% not affordable. Yet it was supposed to be affordable. That's what we sold by Obamacare. So how about we work together and say, hey, scrap ACA, admit it doesn't work. Admit you guys made a mistake. And let's work at something
Starting point is 00:41:28 with President Trump to make affordable health care healthy and affordable for everybody. But there's zero chance you guys could do that. Zero chance. Yet everybody we bring up here, you guys chastised for trying to make changes. God forbid we change and go after us and try to fix our broken system. Anyways, I ranted too long. Let's talk about some. Yes, you did. I'm sorry, I didn't ask your opinion on that. And if I cared about your opinion, I would ask you, but I don't care about your opinion. You're part of the system. You're part of the problem. You've been sitting here longer than I've even been alive. This is your problem. You should have fixed this a long time ago. You've been rel on it so long. I decided not to run for Sergeant General. You're the
Starting point is 00:42:07 I've decided to accept that nominee. That is definitely something that we would never accept. Thank you, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Thank you. Thank you, finally, for bringing this out. Someone else may have done it. I'm sorry, I don't mean to impugn anyone else who may have brought this point up in the past. Please, in the name of all that's holy, keep hammering this point.
Starting point is 00:42:33 How the, did they shut down the government asking for more money for a plan? they told you was going to save money. And I love it we just shuts them down. If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you, Bernie. You've been up here for 700 years. If you had a solution, you would have already implemented it, correct? Or at least your solutions aren't working. Isn't that fairly obvious?
Starting point is 00:42:53 While we're on the topic of Mark Wayne Mullen, put that V-O up, by the back. Here's Mark Wain Mullen at the State of the Union. That nut job, Al Green holding that racist sign. There's Mark Wai Mollin. Give me that stupid sign. Did you guys see this? You may be there. Yeah, probably one more there.
Starting point is 00:43:06 There you go. Like, a loop. There you can be that stupid side. Good for you. Nobody needs to be looking at this crap on the... There we go. They're in the state of the union. Good job.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Senator Mark Wayne Bond. Republicans, please, listen, I get it. You know, are you... The politics thing, I know it's tough. It's the art of the possible. I've Senator Leon later. We're going to talk about that. The Save Act, the filibuster.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It's going to be a PhD course in the Save Act and saving our elections. It'd be about 20-minute interview. But please, I'm asking the Republicans. I've had a lot of you on the show so far in just the month we've been back. Please continue to hammer this point. You can't avoid the fact that the Democrats shut down the government over a plan they implemented Obamacare that failed to do what they said it's going to do.
Starting point is 00:43:58 That's why they're shutting down to government. But we have another problem too. And I'm going to talk to, again, Senator Lee about it in a bit, the Save Act. Ladies and gentlemen, the Save Act will save America going forward because it'll implement a set of voting standards across the country that will make it very easy to vote but very difficult to cheat. Sean Davis, who's a friend of mine at the Federalist, brings this up a lot. Ladies and gentlemen, we're at the point now in American elections. Listen to me, and this is really important. Where sadly, ballots win elections and not necessarily people. Those aren't always the same thing. if you mass mail out a bunch of ballots to a group of people,
Starting point is 00:44:36 you have no idea in some cases who's going to send those back if you don't have voter ID and voter integrity measures. Anyone could, Casper the Friendly Ghost could send it back in. That means the ballot one, not the person. And if the person doesn't complain, say you send a mail and ballot to me, Dan Bongino. Someone intercepts the ballot and it goes and votes for me. If I don't go and check, hey, what are you talking about? How did I? I didn't vote yet.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I never mail that. I never got the ballot. No one's going to know. That's why they love ballot harvesting and mass mailouts of ballots. The SAVE Act and voter ID measures are going to at least put an obstacle against mass cheating. The problem is there's this filibuster hurdle in the Senate and the Senate majority leader. Listen, I know he's dealing with a lot. I don't want to pile on here. Republican on Republican political stuff I've told you.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm not the Black Pillar Show. you want the Black Pillar show, go elsewhere. That's okay. I'm really, I'm not mad at you. Some people like doom and gloom all the time. The world sucks. I don't like, I'm a happy warrior. When something's wrong, we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But I think the country's headed in a really good direction under this administration. However, we don't get the Save Act. We're not going to continue in that direction. The Democrats do not want a talking filibuster on the House, on the Senate floor, excuse me, where they have to go down and stop a majority from voting on the bill. They just want to say I'm going to filibuster. Well, make them talk. The problem is, Senator Thune and the leadership and the Senate side, I don't think they're going to change the rules at all.
Starting point is 00:46:09 They're going to put the Save Act up for some ceremonial vote, and of course it's going to fail because they're not going to get past this artificial 60 vote threshold that should be 51 or you have to filibuster, a talking filibuster. Don't take my word for it. Just listen to them. Check this out. They'll put the Democrats on the record, and it's a stark contrast, I should. the Democrats even in the chamber last night having to sit there and try and defend allowing non-citizens to vote in American elections. That is a losing proposition for them. So we will get a vote on it.
Starting point is 00:46:37 We are right now in the middle of a government shutdown, so we've got to try and get the government opened up first. But in due time, we will get that up on the floor. We will have a vote on it. We will make sure that the Democrats are on the record. It is a stark contrast between Republicans and Democrats about how they want to handle elections in this country. And this is going to put them, I think, in a very difficult position. It's an issue if I were running as a Democrat in the midterm elections in November, I wouldn't want to have to defend. Stark contrast.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You get it? Like how I tie these things in? Senator Thune is correct. It will create a stark contrast when we get the Democrats on the record that they don't support basic items like voter ID that upwards of 80% of Americans support. You know what would create a starker contrast? making them talk about it endlessly as an obstacle to a majority vote on it. Let them talk about it. Folks, listen, again, I don't want to pile on here,
Starting point is 00:47:47 but when something's wrong, it's our obligation to talk about it on the show and call it out. We are never going to get this opportunity again. The midterms are coming up, and sadly, there's a good chance we may not do well. I'm not a domer. I hope we do well, but we have to be open to the obvious that we could lose the Senate or the House or both. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I hope we're okay. Going to fight like hell otherwise, 10, 10 and 10. But we could lose. If we don't have the majority and the Senate, it goes majority Democrat after the midterms, it doesn't matter. We're not going to get anything passed anyway. We only have this chance now.
Starting point is 00:48:28 The Senate leadership on the Republican side really should think this through. And I believe Senator Lee will be on later in the show. I've watched his based Mike Lee account on Twitter, which is a good follow. He makes a really compelling case that there was ever a time to make them use the filibuster and talk. This is it right now. Folks, we're not going to have a country to save if the Save Act doesn't pass or not. I told you in the beginning of the show, my experience, just in a limited role in government at the FBI.
Starting point is 00:48:58 None of this stuff, none of it is going to be fixed overnight. not the FBI, not Medicare, not Social Security, not Medicaid, not HHS, not the FDA, not the DEA, not the DOJ, none of it. It is not going to be fixed overnight. It took 30 and 40 years to infiltrate, bureaucratize, corrupt, enact all this waste and fraud. It's going to take probably an administration or two to clean this out. We're not going to have an administration or two if we don't have free and fair elections. It's going to be one and done every time.
Starting point is 00:49:38 We sneak up on them. We win an election. Maybe they don't do all their measures or whatever. And then they're going to go right back to their old tricks. Contrasts. I say to the Senate leadership, you can create a stark contrast. Make them debate their support
Starting point is 00:49:57 for crushing voter integrity. make the Democrats do it. Speaking of contrast, he spent a lot of time putting this together. Shoney again on this stuff about here is a tweet by Body Sargonne here about how the New York Times covered the hockey team and a good news. The U.S. hockey team. What an amazing group of guys, right?
Starting point is 00:50:17 So, you know, it's how the New York Times covers a trader winning medals for our greatest adversary versus the New York Times covering our boys winning medals for the glory of the U.S. She knows just appalling beyond belief. Look at these two headlines. One celebrating Eileen. Gu, who earned the at the 2026 Olympics. The scientist, the politicians, skier, model, and a student is like a magician.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And when it comes to the U.S. Olympic team, it's nice to be fedded as a winner as the U.S. Men's Olympic hockey team has been. But who's celebrating you and why they're doing it matters? Athletes would be wise to recognize that in this climate. Celebration is easily repurposed into political capital. Can it be more obvious about their ridiculously partisan slal? it while they pretend to be the great lady and independent journalist. I'll cut the shit.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It's funny now how they want to attack these heroes in the U.S. men's Olympic team for winning a gold medal against the odds and going to the White House. But Clay Travis did an amazing job on his Twitter account of pulling this old clip from when MSNOWW was NSNBC. I know it's MS now. We're calling them NSNOW. MSNBC back in the day of there was another team that didn't want to be. to go to the White House when I think it was it was it Obama or something and they were really upset about that they're like oh don't make it political man just go to the white house wait i did i mean that's what the u.s. Olympic team just did they didn't make a political president trump invited him they went you see how
Starting point is 00:51:45 these people have no principles at all they believe in absolutely nothing check this out boston gruins goalie tim thomas rsvp thanks but no thanks to a white house invitation what do we make of that uh tim thomas points out that he uh sorry tim thomas said i exercise my free right and my writ right as a free citizen and did not visit the white house this was not about politics or party as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country i mean i think this is kind of the hyper partisanship that just irritates everybody it's like just go to the white house you don't have to run an ad or kind of commercial or anything just go to the white house take part celebrate just like everybody else celebrates with republicans or
Starting point is 00:52:27 democratic presidents they don't stand for anything folks Now, that's kind of funny to watch, but it's not funny at all. Because when it comes to things like the Save Act, the most important electoral policy issue of our time, saving our elections, you cannot build your reasoning on a layer of sand that we're dealing with rational actors on the other side. I've seen this with some opponents of changing filibuster, not rules, the rules don't have to change, but making them talk on the floor. Some of the opponents say, well, then we're going to go down this hill and the Democrats are going to scrap the filibuster. Stop it. Please, the Democrats have already said they're going to scrap the filibuster.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Take that off the table. This is game theory now. It's not a binary. It's if then. The Democrats are going to do it. We can either beat them to the punch or we can get punched in the balls. That's it. Those are your choices.
Starting point is 00:53:25 We're not dealing with rational actors on the other side. These people have gone crazy on the last. left. Folks, I saw lunatic stuff with Romney when he was a candidate, with George W. I've seen it with, you know, when Huckabee ran and Santorum and others. I have never seen crazy like this, ever. This combination of forces that Donald Trump is just, to show your ass theory, they've just, I don't know how else to say it. The Mad Hatter thing, was it the chemicals and the hat is what they call mad Hatter? They've just gone crazy on the inhaling mercury. I mean, what the hell are they doing?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Here's what I mean. Here's a Florida representative. Ashley Gant, a friend of mine sent this over yesterday. They'll link to this. A friend of mine who was involved in Florida politics. So this is a pretty simple thing. The Republicans, Florida, very Republican state, they wanted to acknowledge a real American hero like Charlie Kirk for his contributions to political debate. No one supported free speech better than Charlie Kirk. Charlie sit on a campus and have a bunch of people screaming questions at him all day. or advocate of free speech is that? That was anti-censorship. That was like, hey, have your voice heard and will debate, correct? So here's Florida Representative Ashley Gant, Democrat, trying to make the claim that,
Starting point is 00:54:48 we shouldn't really acknowledge Charlie, because, you know, Charlie wasn't really assassinated. Wait, you listen to yourself, if you think I'm making this up. This actually happened. Check this out. So the First Amendment protects free speech. We don't need this day of remembrance for a man that was mediocre and racist.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And I say mediocre at best. He was not a Floridian. He had no ties to Florida other than owning property. We have a number of Floridians, both individuals and organizations, that promote free speech that is not divisive like this individual was. If we want to talk about free speech, let's talk about being precise with our words. When we hear assassination, that's typically related to a person and a political position. Charlie Kirk died from gun violence, OK?
Starting point is 00:55:51 We continuously advocate for gun policy legislation that would ensure that people that probably shouldn't have a gun don't have a gun. So was his passing tragic for those who love him? Absolutely. There is no denying that. But he was not assassinated. And words being accurate,
Starting point is 00:56:10 matters. Tell you what, guys. Let's make this simple for the liberals at home, like representative Ashley Gant. You guys have the dictionary definition? Oh, you do. You have it handy. Assassination.
Starting point is 00:56:30 The premeditated act of killing someone suddenly or secretively, especially a prominent person. She says, Charlie had no ties to Florida, except the own property here. And hey, guys, you remember Turning Point? They used to have events, right? Like rallies and stuff?
Starting point is 00:56:56 They have those events and things. I still have them, correct? I don't know about you guys, but I remember quite a few in West Palm Beach. West Palm Beach, for you liberals, either, is in Florida. It's about, I don't know, 45 minutes south of where I live. And he's like, damn, weren't you add a couple of those? Yes, I'm why.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Unbelievable. It actually used to have a lot of rallies in Florida. He's like, didn't you go to one on the West Coast too? Tampa is on the other coast, the Gulf Coast. Liberals are like, really? I didn't know that. Tampa Liberals is in Florida. Florida is a big state.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You have the East Side and the West Side. I actually went to one of those too. You can actually go and look at the videos of the speech. Charlie had a significant footprint in Florida, but it doesn't really matter, does it? it doesn't really matter. The point of this isn't if Charlie had a footprint here or not, because then you're just arguing with stupid people like Representative Ashley Gantt,
Starting point is 00:57:58 who should be called Representative Ashley Can't, because she can't apparently process English language. Charlie wasn't assassinated? Folks, we're not dealing with sane actors here. I can't make this point to you enough, whether it's dealing with a bunch of insane weapons, actors at the FBI, a bunch of lunatic Democrats who are going to scrap the filibuster and jam a bunch of wealth confiscation taxes, weaponized government, regulations, government takeover
Starting point is 00:58:33 health care down your throat. The assumption that we're dealing with sane people is building your reasoning on a house of sand that's going to collapse no matter what you put. You can put the strongest bricks and mortar on earth on top of sand. It doesn't matter. It's going to collapse when the tide comes in and out. You are not dealing with sane people. Some of these people would rather their own kids, their own families, be put in a perilous public safety situation.
Starting point is 00:59:05 They would rather their own neighborhoods decay and rot. They would rather starve as every single drugstore and food location that supermarket pulls out of the neighborhood than admit they're wrong. That is not reason or logic. You cannot negotiate with crazy people. Here, you doubt me, I always pull these reports. Sometimes I like using local news outlets, because if I put on Fox News all the time, they go, that's just a partisan slant.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Here's some local news outlets. That's why I played the Los Angeles local station about the Los Angeles School District investigation going on against the head over there. Here's another one out of Portland. So is a CVS, CVS a drugstore, obviously, national chain, out of the point of the now we listen i don't want to i don't speak for cv s all i can tell you is in general
Starting point is 01:00:00 a lot of prominent national chains supermarkets and drugstores have pulled out of liberal cities why because they're chaotic messes of insanity where public safety is terrible everything's locked up and people steal shit because there's no penalty it's not freaking hard man occum's razor given all explanations except the easiest one why would a business pull out of a location with all these people around because they can't make money. Why can't they make money? All these people aren't. Because everybody's stealing their shit. Liberals like, what, man? What? What he mean? Why is it not happening around here? Not too far from this studio. You guys may pass it every day. There's a CVS, correct? And there's also a Walgreens. Have you guys been in there yet?
Starting point is 01:00:52 You've seen anything locked up? You haven't. Andrew, you live here, are you sure? I haven't either. He's given us the thumb. It's so weird. Because we have a sheriff down here, Sheriff Budenstein, who, by the way, if you go into Walgreens or CVS and you steal shit, you're going to get a nice, fresh set of bracelets.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And I'm not talking about like Gucci or Tiffany. They look kind of like handcuffs. And you will go to jail. And there's a good chance, by the way, they may not even plea it out. And it's weird. They don't have to lock stuff up. It's so crazy. Folks, they would rather live.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Some of these people would rather live like animals. I didn't even play the CVS clip yet. I'm sorry. Watch. Listen to this report. And the local media station, listen to how they always try to frame these things. Check this out. The TVS spokesperson told me March 5th will be the last day for this story here,
Starting point is 01:01:53 right across the street from Pioneer Square. People I spoke to today who were going in and out of the store tell me they're frankly not surprised. It's closing. It's hard to miss the abandoned storefronts and four lease signs near Pioneer Courthouse Square. The vacancies leaving the area around Portland's living room feeling rather empty. In less than two weeks, this CBS store will also be gone. It would be sad because I won't be able to come here and get my water and my supplies and whatever else we need. People we spoke with weren't exactly shocked to hear the store is closing its doors.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I'm not surprised and everything's locked up in there. Like you want certain things. They're under locking key. You're like, oh, my God. Similar problems cost the area one of its other retailers just a few years ago. I don't know the lady in there at all. I don't know. She could be a transfer.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I have no idea. Ice her out of it for a second. She's like, hey, you go in there. Everything's all locked up. Absent her. These people want to live like animals. You can't buy anything in their stores. There's a shit map for San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Oh, Dan, stop being so vulgar. No, I'm not kidding. There's an actual shit map where they found shit in the streets. Crime rates were out of control before sane people got back in charge. I went down to Seattle. I took a mini vacation with some friends. I go to Seattle. We just had to depart from there.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But we had about, I don't know, eight hours in Seattle. So my daughter said, hey, I want to go see the original Starbucks. It's down on like Pikes or someone down there. That's the name of the coffee, you get it. We take a walk down. Here's the crazy thing. The lady at the hotel, this is a while ago. I don't know, three years ago, two years ago.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The lady at the hotel goes, hey, the All-Star game, whenever the All-Singame is in Seattle, is in town. So they really cleaned up the city. So we're like, oh, okay, but it's probably safe to walk down there. Keep in mind, I don't have a gun. on me or anything like that. We walked down the street. Folks, you know the, you know the, the hunchover look, the fentanyl meth look, whatever it is, we're all hunched over. It looks like Romero's Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead. I've never seen anything like it. I had,
Starting point is 01:04:20 I had three kids with me, my daughter and my friend's two daughters. And I got to tell you, I was like crossed the street immediately. It looked like a scary harbour. There it is the shit map. These guys found it. It's that from San Francisco? There's the shit map. Don't walk here.
Starting point is 01:04:40 There's shit all over the book. This is how they want to live like animals. You realize like people before there was indoor sanitation used to throw shit out the windows. This is why they want to live. Oh, this is vulgar. It's true. Here's how to avoid their shit. They need like a junkie map too.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Here's how to avoid the junkies with the night of the living dead look. You know what I'm talking about when they're hunched over and they can't get up? It is the most frightening thing. Some of them are barely clothed. They're like, what kind of place is this? They would rather live like animals. You're not dealing with rational people. Here's the crazy thing.
Starting point is 01:05:23 This Trump administration stacked with people who actually give a shit have gone into liberal cities that hate this president. not everyone, but a good majority of folks in San Francisco and Chicago, you've seen the polls, don't like this president, and hate Republicans, me included. The president said, go clean those places up. We were a part of it at the FBI, so was DEA, Marshall's, ATF, and others as well. The president never said like, oh, San Francisco is a shit map. Screw them.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I'm like, no. And the murder rate in the country collapsed because of a combined effort in federal. law enforcement to get shitheads off the street, pun intended. Even CBS, how to acknowledge it, CBS of all places. How to acknowledge it, what the president said at the state of the union about the murder rate collapsing is true. Fact check, murder rate. In the state of the union, Trump said, last year the murder rate saw its single largest
Starting point is 01:06:20 decline of recorded history. This is the biggest decline. Think of it in recorded history. The lowest number in over 125 years, end quote. A CBS news fact check has determined this is True. It's not just, it's the lowest in recorded history. The percentage drop is the greatest percentage drop we've seen in modern times, too. That's not an accident.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yet Democrats always act surprised. You ever notice this? This feigned surprise all the time? Hey, CVS is closing down in Portland. Yeah, got all this. There's a street crime problem and all of a sudden they're like, I don't know, man. I don't know why stuff's all locked up.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I don't know. They always act surprised. The murder rates down. We're stunned. What could it possibly be? I don't know. President Trump told us at the FBI. Can you guys go get murderers off the street?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Find the way? Yeah, we can do it. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to ask you again, in case any of you think this was rocket science and me taking some celebratory pat on the back, this was not hard. This is one of the few times you're going to get a guy saying,
Starting point is 01:07:31 this was common sense. You just needed someone implemented with a president who supported you. How many murderers do you know in your own life? Josh, any murderers? Zero, Guy, any murders? He's got some suspects, but he says he's not confirmed. Justin, no?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Andrew's saying zero. Jasmine definitely a no. I'm a little worried about Guy now. I hope he's not talking about anyone in the studio. So, no, we don't know any. Why don't you know any murderers? Because there aren't a lot of murderers. So if you go and pull them off the street, violent criminals,
Starting point is 01:08:03 shocking folks. Elizabeth, I'm coming for you. Murder's drop. Oh my gosh. Broken windows policing, man. It's not hard. You just need the nutsack to go and do it. Liberals are, I can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Murder rates down. What happened? Here's another one this Washington Post article. They're stunned. Fennell overdoses are plunging downwards. That means less of them for the liberals out there. headline Roger Kimball stunned by this
Starting point is 01:08:35 a study offers a surprising here it is folks surprising reason for plunging U.S. overdose deaths think of this long explanation about China who was it who pressured China to schedule a lot of these precursor
Starting point is 01:08:52 chemicals oh that's right the White House and cash who took a trip over there and then they did it God forbid you give any credit to the administration. I don't know, man. I'm so surprised.
Starting point is 01:09:08 When you combine strong law enforcement, public education, and international diplomacy, cash flew over there to get these precursor chemicals to Fendil scheduled at the direction of the White House,
Starting point is 01:09:21 and it happened. You notice how the Washington Post like glosses over all of that conveniently? Oh, man, I'm so surprised. Fentil deaths, plunging. That means down.
Starting point is 01:09:34 But nothing's happened. right murder rate down crime rate down public corruption cases firings terminations reforms fentanyl death plunging you're right nothing's happening you see other duma crowd nothing's happening you're just full of shit you just hate the administration just be honest you're the people sending us to that work phone all those messages we showed in the beginning of the show if you missed them you posy little b posse can you even spell here one more feign surprise here's the new york times They're actually shocked that cutting some kids nuts off may not be science. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Look at this. Jesse Single. Medical Association's trusted belief over science on youth gender care. Gender care. Gender care. Cutting their nuts off. That's gender care. They're stunned that this may not be great science.
Starting point is 01:10:27 It's so funny. I just, I can't with these people. Jesse single, man, can't believe it. That may not have been science, cutting the kids nuts off, or young ladies breast soft. Guys, you know that? That may not be science. They're shocked inside.
Starting point is 01:10:42 They're stunned. Like, man, I thought there was solid date on that. That's really good for them. Sorry. It really isn't fun. I just, I can't with these people. Stop pretending, please. You're dealing with rational actors on the other side.
Starting point is 01:11:04 We're in a really perilous point in our country. And there's going to be a lot of level 10 decisions going forward, folks. The country is moving in the right direction. The battle is going to be waged every single. single day for years. No one person's going to fix this. Not me, not cash. It's going to take years and years of successive presidencies, strong members of the Senate and the House to do really hard things. None of this is going to be fixed overnight. It took them decades to destroy it. And that's how we wound up here, folks. Trump has managed to break. Trump has managed to
Starting point is 01:11:51 this ridiculous messaging machine at the New York Times and the Washington Post and elsewhere, we're stunned. Cutting kids nuts off isn't good for them. We're stunned. The murder rates down. How did that happen? We're stunned. Fentil overdoses are dropping, plunging. How did that happen? President Trump has a gift. I told you the world's greatest superpower. Greatest superpower is what? Folks in the chat. The ability to command attention. Donald Trump has to It hasn't. Nobody can tell you why. If they did, they'd write books and they'd be billionaires like him. They can't. Some people got this gift. They can command attention. When he breaks through the media bullshit, the feigned surprise, the commie bullshit they put out there and talks directly
Starting point is 01:12:39 to the people like he did in the state of the union, it all comes together because he doesn't have to deal with the filter. Again, you don't have to believe me. I always bring receipts to the show to back up what I'm saying. You think his speech was ineffective? Check out this CNN poll. Now, it's very important here. They took a poll pre-speech and post-speech. Now, if the liberal media was right and Donald Trump's speech was not effective, then why did the numbers turn out the way they did, as reported by CNN? Check this out. Speech watchers tonight, 64% say his policies will move the U.S. in the right direction. And look at the growth President Trump made over the speech. So pre-speech, it was 54% of speech watchers said his policies will move the U.S.
Starting point is 01:13:27 in the right direction. After the speech, that number goes up 10 percentage points. So Donald Trump made some progress with people watching the speech. This is his greatest superpower when he doesn't have to deal with the bullshit filter from the liberal media telling the public what to think, instead of how to think about issues with facts. Look at what happens. The needle moves in his direction every time. Like you said, even CBS had to acknowledge what he said was true. And notice what they do every time, whether it was fentanyl overdoses,
Starting point is 01:13:59 you know, mutilation of children's bodies, the murder rate. They always try to explain away Republican successes using Democrat reasoning. And when Democrats do something wrong, they do the opposite. They do Republicans pounce and they focus on the Republican reaction
Starting point is 01:14:17 rather than the Democrats' failures. They do this, shit all the time. Folks, the White House is really good at breaking through this fog. If they weren't, the president's approval rating right now, due to the liberal messaging machine and constant attacks would be at probably 30%. But because they're good at getting the truth to people, I'll just show you a quick portion of this latest White House ad pre-state of the union at telling a story, you've seen this messaging machine for the first time in a long time being able to break through.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Remember, the old adage was, you don't mess with media people who buy ink by a barrel. The president's like, no, you mess with them first. Check this out. My name is Everest, Nevermond. My name is Megan Hemhouser. My name is Marcus Coleman, father of Delilah Coleman. My name is Catherine Raynor. My name is Sierra Burns.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And I'm so excited to be in Washington, D.C., the Capitol, to attend the State of the Union with the President and the First Lady. To be invited to the State of the Union. What an incredible honor. Thank you, President Trump, for inviting us to the State of the Union. I'm incredibly honored to be here and be a part of the Specialist. I'm like struck, like all struck. It's the state of the union.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Like that's an ultimate honor. President Trump. I've followed you for many years. I've started at your first rally when you first were running again. I went by myself. There isn't words, but I'm so thankful for everything. Thank you so much for letting me come and talk about education and teach all Americans how to learn super fast and effectively with using AI.
Starting point is 01:15:45 They're just really good at this. I've got Senator Mike Lee coming up in just a few minutes. We're going to talk about the Save Act to save elections in this country. And it is going to be a 15 or 20 minute masterclass on all the bullshit you've heard about elections and exactly how the Democrats use harvesting, mail-in balloting, the Motor Voter Act to try to manipulate election results. If you've never heard this before, I promise. It is going to be your Ph.D.
Starting point is 01:16:20 course. Tell your friends to tune in now. Don't watch it video on demand later. No one knows more about it than Senator Mike Lee. I wanted to just kind of one more time bring this up because I discussed in the beginning of the show. We discussed the two breaking news stories out of the FBI. This apparently non-predicated investigation into Susie Wiles and Cash Patel versus the investigation into the,
Starting point is 01:16:45 the parent's CI case involving China and pilots and the important case and in the Los Angeles Unified School District superintendents, a search warrant, someone went down yesterday, how you got these two FBI's and we're going to have to make some really hard decisions going forward that is going to require a lot of adults in the room to make really, really hard calls, a lot of which were already made. You'll hear about as time goes on. But folks, when it comes to law enforcement, I want to show you just a quick video. You know what, if you can put it on VO, guys. I just want to show you what they're dealing with every single day.
Starting point is 01:17:26 This does not mean, again, that law enforcement, you know, or above the law. No one's saying that. No good, solid police officer, a federal agent, wants to be perceived as above the law because it just incentivizes corruption. However, I want you to understand when you're in law enforcement. Again, I haven't spent time as a street police officer and a federal agent twice. You're dealing with split-second decisions many times. And when you see it, you'll see what I mean.
Starting point is 01:17:56 This happened in Bay County, Florida. Watch how quickly this breaks back. That's it. Seconds. I need code three now. I got shots fired. As you can see, you're talking about micro. second decisions, years and years and years of training, goes into making that split second call
Starting point is 01:18:37 about what you have to do to prevent yourself from getting a serious physical injury or stopping your own death if someone's taking an action that would cause that. They're dealing with a lot. And now they're dealing with, and this is why also, this is why I think the body camera revolution was a good thing. I am a vocal supporter and was during my time in the FBI, and they know that. I told the guys from day one, we got to expand this program, make it happen. Because now you can see.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And if there is any corruption or malfeasance, you can see that too, and that should be exposed as well. But you'll see the majority of the time that what the media paints as an anti-police narrative, when you look at it and see it yourself, you're like, well, that's always a tough call. In this case, you can see it. yourself. All right, going to take a quick break here and I'm going to get to Senator Lee. Please pay very close attention to this segment. It's one of the most important we've did in our time back and even before. It is about the Save Act, saving our elections, motor voter, ballot harvesting, mass mail and ballading to filibuster and it ties all together
Starting point is 01:19:49 so that we can save our elections going forward. If we don't believe in the election results, we have nothing but anarchy. You have no country, period. A lot happened when I was back in the last job like gold jumping over 60% in the past year. Be straight with you. I'm feeling good about buying gold from Birch Gold. Right about now, really good. And I'm really grateful they're back with me as a sponsor. A lot of you know the story. I wasn't going to go with a gold sponsor early on, but Paula said, hey, listen, we both buy gold, we invest in gold. So let's do it. I got to learn more about a company called Birch Gold, B-I-R-C-H, and the need for financial
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Starting point is 01:21:23 Senator Mike Lee from Utah. Senator Lee, welcome to the show. Thank you, very much. Good to be with you. You have been an absolute champion for Liberty, and one of the things you've been most vocal on, excuse me, recently is the save fact, an act to implement basic voter protections for free and fair elections in the United States would implement voter ID. A lot of people know what voter ID is, obviously, but I would like you
Starting point is 01:21:50 to tell the audience being an expert on us what this act isn't. There are a lot of rumors out there, Senator, from the left wing media lunatics that married women won't be able to vote and all of this other stuff. Can you just correct the record on what this does and what it doesn't do? Yeah. The Save America Act is all about two things. We're going to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. Democrats are just fine with the first half of the equation. They're not okay with the second half. So what it requires is you have to show that you are a U.S. citizen at the time you register to vote. It is, in fact, illegal to vote as a non-citizen. And secondly, it requires that at the time that you show up
Starting point is 01:22:34 to vote, you have to produce a photo ID to show that you. you are the person you claim to be the same person on your voter registration file. Now, we make this phenomenally easy to do under the Save America Act. You know, it's already a requirement in the law. Every time any American starts a new job as a new employee with a new employer, they have to fill out a form called the I-9. And if you are an American, you've got to establish proof of citizenship at the time you start that new job.
Starting point is 01:23:08 To do that, you've got to either produce a U.S. passport or alternatively, if you don't have a passport, which a lot of people don't. You can produce a birth certificate and a social security card and a government-issued photo ID and that will suffice. The Save America Act makes it even easier than that. Let's say if you're someone who, I don't know, maybe your house burned down and you lost all those documents or maybe for some reason you never had them, there are other ways you can do it through an affidavit. it and you put the burden then on the state doing the voter registration to track all that down for you. Either way, this is phenomenally easy. In recent days, you alluded to this a minute ago. In recent days, as recently as yesterday, you had people like Hillary Clinton out there yet again trying to scare people by saying, this will disenfranchise married women who have
Starting point is 01:24:00 changed their name after getting married. This is absolute paranoid fantasy. It is a lie. It is an absolute lie to say this would disenfranchise anyone, especially under those circumstances. It's the easiest thing in the world for someone under this legislation. If it became law, all you would have to do is produce the same documents everybody else does and then sign an off at David saying, yes, following my marriage, I changed my name legally from Smith to Johnson or whatever it is. It could not be easier to prove that. It's not going to disenfranchise anyone. So look, the bottom line is we want to make our elections about actual votes cast by actual U.S. citizens rather than ballots cast by fraud, rather than ballots cast perhaps by people
Starting point is 01:24:57 who don't exist, or people who voted multiple times, or by people who are in the United States but have no right to be here or somebody who doesn't exist to begin with. Senator, my good friend Sean Davis over at the Federalist, the really brilliant guy. He brought this up to me in the past. He used to be on my radio show a lot. I'd plan to have him here. But he said, listen, we never want to get to an environment in an election
Starting point is 01:25:21 where trust and integrity obviously matter. It's axiomatic. Where ballots win elections and not people. We don't want that. And what he's getting at is if you mass mail, out ballots like they do in places like California and elsewhere, under the, just really not stringent guidelines at all, anyone can grab the ballot sign and return. As long as no one reports, someone voted for them, no one's ever going to know. It's almost impossible to detect.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Obviously, then people will lose faith and there'll be no fidelity to process at all. And then you're in an anarchy. You're just like, why have an election at all? Nobody even believes the outcome. Might as well just pick people like the commies do. That's why I think. I think you brought that up, that the Democrats, they want to make it really easy to vote, but the second part they have a problem with, and that's what I'm worried about, is the cheating portion. And that's why I think we need to really take this seriously, because I think we're going to have a problem winning elections going forward if more states move to this mass mailout of ballots and ballot harvesting to go along with it. Yeah, no, you're exactly right. And I'm
Starting point is 01:26:27 glad you brought up Sean Davis. Sean Davis has been an outspoken champion on this, and he's caused people to think about this issue in ways that they haven't thought about it in a long time. You just look at the outrage, the feigned outrage, the contrived outrage coming from the left on this. That by itself, even if you were in doubt as to whether we needed the Save Act, the Save America Act, the Outrage coming from the Left on this really out to convince you that we need this bill. because the fact that they're freaking out this much, it's like they're protesting too much. They're pointing to something that is a vulnerability in their system.
Starting point is 01:27:14 This is not how a normal group of people would react if there were nothing to be concerned about fear. And so, yeah, we've got to watch out for that. Dan, one of the reasons why the Save America Act became necessary in the first place has to do with a combination of circumstances. Congress passed a law called the National Voter Registration Act, the NVRA, also known as the Motor Voter Law. It makes it very easy for anyone to go into a DMV in almost any state. Apply for a driver's license. And while applying for a driver's license, all you have to do is check a box and sign your name, certifying.
Starting point is 01:27:52 You know, trust me. I am a U.S. citizen. I am otherwise entitled to vote. Sign me up, register me to vote as I apply. for my driver's license. There were some who didn't like the law at the time, but it passed and it moved forward and people didn't freak out. But things have developed since then in such a way is to make it absolutely imperative that we have the Safe America Act. So a couple of decades after it passed, the Supreme Court wrongly, but most conclusively interpreted the NBRA.
Starting point is 01:28:25 so as to say that even if the state has reason to fear that it might be registering someone or a large group of people to vote through an NVRA supplied form at a DMV or not citizens, the state still may not ask for any documentation establishing proof of citizenship. This was a stunning interpretation, and it was roundly, rejected, rarely disagreed with by an aggressive dissent written by my former boss, Justice Alito. Nonetheless, the majority of the court concluded states may not seek proof of citizenship. In the meantime, at the same time that was happening, states were overwhelmingly turning to where they are now, which is where in almost every state, you can issue a driver's license to a
Starting point is 01:29:19 non-citizen. And in 19 states plus D.C., you can freely. issue a driver's license even to a known illegal immigrant. And so all these things add up, then you pile on top of that, the fact that between 2021 and 2025, those years when Joe Biden was president, we let in, President Biden let in 10 or 15 million illegal immigrants. You add all those things together. And this is just a seething hotbed of a potential, risk of fraud. So Democrats respond to all this by saying, oh, voter fraud. It almost never happens. Oh, non-citizens don't vote. These guys are making up, this is a solution in search of a problem. They don't know that. They can't know that. And they're turning a blind eye to known,
Starting point is 01:30:12 aggressive threats to election, integrity, and security. That's why we've got to get the Save America Act passed. Now, Senator, you have been on your based Mike Lee X account. You've been very good on. social media. You're one of the few up there, the growing number, but who understand that new media, if you're not on it, you're losing, man. The days of Kronkite and Brokaw are long since gone. But you've been talking about the filibuster, which if you're a regular viewer, my show, is tied to the SAVE Act. The filibuster, of course, is a 60-vote hurdle in the Senate. The 60-vote hurdle, unlike the House, which majority rules in the House, creates a problem for the Republicans on the SAVE Act because it's a math problem, because we don't
Starting point is 01:30:55 have 60 Republican senators. Pretty simple. However, the filibuster, as initially intended, was meant to be an act of active volition. You had to go on the floor and talk. Filibuster, as it's used even in common language. Oh, stop filibustering. You're driving me crazy. Stop talking.
Starting point is 01:31:13 That's what it was. You had to sit there on the Senate floor and talk and talk and talk and talk to basically clog up the machinery. But that evolved into a just threat of a filibuster. and say, I'm just going to fill a bite. You don't actually have to do it. You have proposed, hey, listen, if you're going to filibuster this critical election integrity measure that could save the country in the future, then you damn well better get on the
Starting point is 01:31:35 House, excuse me, Senate floor and talk it through. Explain that. This is another thing that Democrats, they already said they want to dump the filibuster, by the way. So walk us through that. All right. So from the dawn of the republic, since the creation of the U.S. Senate, going all the way back to 1789, we have had.
Starting point is 01:31:53 a tradition that is backed up by our rules known as the filibuster. And under the filibuster from the beginning, the idea was that as long as any one senator or any small group of senators, even if they were outnumbered, they could continue debating and speaking in the Senate as long as they wanted to until the debate was finished. And then they would proceed to a vote and legislation in the Senate then, as now, had had a passage threshold at a simple majority. That remains the case today, that passage is at a simple majority.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Fast forward to 1917, and the Senate created a mechanism by which debate could be brought to a close. If a super majority of senators came together and voted to bring debate to a close, they could stop the small minority of senators from continuing to filibuster. Actually, that threshold was set at three-fourths.
Starting point is 01:32:51 A few decades later, it was changed to two-thirds. A few decades after that, it was changed to three-fifths where it stands today, which is where we get the rule of 60 votes. That's called cloture. That's where a supermajority of senators comes together and they can force debate to come to a close, even if some senators want to continue debating for a longer period of time. But as you alluded to a moment ago, we've now conflated all that to where people just assume that unless you can get to 60 votes, there's no way that you can ever bring debate to a close, no way you can ever get to the point where you could get to passage at a simple maturity threshold of 51.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It's not technically true. It's just that we haven't used what I call the talking filibuster in decades. We've grown accustomed to just relying on the cloture standard as a de facto standard for what it takes to pass. My point here is that although you couldn't necessarily do it every time, it might end up proving too cumbersome. Whereas here, you've got this unusual circumstance where you've got the House and the Senate, both preferring legislation. You've got a majority in both chambers who want to pass this legislation. You've got 85% of the American people wanting the Save America Act to pass.
Starting point is 01:34:19 and you've got a president of the United States who, night before last, identified this as the top Republican legislative priority. And that unique circumstance, especially whereas here, the security of our elections, our ability to confidently tell voters that they can rely on the integrity of our elections is at stake, we should enforce the talking filibuster, meaning if Democrats don't want this bill to pass, they should be required to go to the Senate floor and explain why to the American people,
Starting point is 01:34:51 85% of whom want this bill to pass. This has a way inevitably of bringing about consensus, of helping to bring debate to a close. Best example I can point to in terms of a modern historical analog to this, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. If the time it passed the House of Representatives, It was supported by a simple majority of Americans, somewhere between 51 and 55%. But they were still 25 or 26 votes shy of cloture in the Senate. Now, had the Senate in 1964 responded the way many are saying that we have to respond to our 10-votechew
Starting point is 01:35:36 deficit today, we're only 10 votes shy of cloture. had they responded the same way in 64, the Civil Rights Act would not have been passed into law. Certainly not at that time. They would have just given up and moved on. But what they did is they put it on the Senate floor. They stayed at the same legislative day for weeks on end. And after weeks of debate, that tended to sharpen the minds of those who realized they were fighting a losing battle. The American people wanted this thing to pass.
Starting point is 01:36:06 and they eventually came to the table. They negotiated some additional changes, and they got it passed. So if they could overcome a 26-votech-fell deficit then, with legislation fairly supported by a simple majority of Americans, we can do that today when we're only 10 votes shy of cloture, and 85% of the American people are with us. For those of you listen on Apple and Spotify, we're talking to Senator Mike Lee from the absolutely beautiful state of Utah.
Starting point is 01:36:34 If you had not visited the state, please take the time it is just incredible senator you have some people who disagree with you on this i am not one of them however people i respect of sound mind you know hew hewitt being one of them perfectly entitled to a reasoned opinion on it uh but those folks have what i believe they're the critical mistake they're making their analysis when they say leave basically the process as is in essence is they're treating it as a binary filibuster good slows down the process, gives the minority some power to stop bad legislation. I concur. I agree 100%. You're not wrong. But that's not the binary we're dealing with. We're dealing with game theory in a series of if-then
Starting point is 01:37:20 equations. It's not good, bad. It's what's bad versus what's worse. What's bad the filibuster, you know, clogging up this. What's, you know, they say, well, what's worse dumping the rules. But then they don't take an account, I'll make up words here. What's worser? And what's worse than worst is the Democrats have already said they're going to dump the filibuster anyway. So you have to take into account this is not a binary. It is a series of if-then equations where you have to gain theory it out. Is it your fear that now that Senator's Cinema and Mansion, the only opponents of changing the filibuster rules on the Democrat side are gone,
Starting point is 01:37:56 that the Democrats are going to dump it anyway and jam even bigger government and totalitarianism down our throats? Well, yeah, look, I think it's standard. to reason that they are going to do that. I don't think anyone reasonably disputes that that is the plan of Democrats whenever the stars are aligned again in their favor, meaning the next time they have the three levers from the two political branches of government, meaning both chambers of Congress and the White House under Democratic control. I don't think there's anyone who disputes that they're going to dump it. Now, importantly, though, Dan, what I'm talking about here is not nuking the filibuster. I'm not even
Starting point is 01:38:35 advocating that we ditch it. I'm just saying this is the filibuster. To use the true filibuster, and I'm not even saying that we need to do it this way every time, but in circumstances like this one, where the American people are overwhelmingly with us, a majority of both legislative chambers, want it to pass, and so do 85% of the American people and the president of the United States, and where it's so important to government itself, we ought to enforce the filibuster. based on what it actually is. This is contrary to the filibuster. It's not undermining it.
Starting point is 01:39:12 It's actually what the filibuster is, which is speaking on the Senate floor. It's not silence. They ought not be able to have the benefits of the filibuster while napping or while attending the Munich Security Conference or while, I don't know, at the bar, at the gym, whatever it is that they do when they're not in the Senate speaking and debating. Yeah. No, I should have been clear on that. You're not even suggesting any big change. You're just suggesting it force the rules as they are. Now, I actually feel differently about it. Obviously, respect your opinion. I think Newk it put out a brand new contract with America, a rollout an entire portfolio of government changes and just do it all because they're going to do it anyway. And I think we're going to regret it later. But I understand. I understand your politics is the art of the possible right now. And there may not be a number.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Republican votes for I totally get it. I don't I don't I don't want to jump the gun on any of that and if that's the best we can do right now I think that's a very viable and reasonable alternative. Senator Lee I really appreciate you taking the time that was a PhD course in the SAVE Act and filibuster process I think the listening audience is going to really appreciate it I think the myth busting too is really valuable they're not stopping married women from voting you would just simply sign a form and move along is this is not complicated they are very and can figure it out. I happen to be married to a woman who is highly intelligent and figured out very easily how to change her name and how to vote. So thank you very much, Senator, for
Starting point is 01:40:44 representing the cause of liberty. We really appreciate it. You're always welcome back. Thanks so much, Dan. Good to be. It's good to see you back on the airwaves. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Feels great. Senator Mike Lee, folks, one of the good guys up there. There you go. Now you know, you know, someone sent me an email yesterday. It's not like these liberals. They say, my kid was in a coffee shot this morning and someone came up to him and told them that Trump is a Nazi or whatever. This actually happened. Someone sent me an email and they have my email from back when I used to put out an email on the air. And they said, Dan, I'm a P1, been listening for 10 years. And one of the things I love about your show is I never lose a debate now. Well, that was always the
Starting point is 01:41:25 purpose of the show. And when we're not experts on something, we bring in experts like Senator Lee and others, or we cite them in pieces and op-eds and others to show you that what you're hearing out there from Democrats is almost always 90-plus percent of the time, if not more, absolute BS. They are not stopping married women from votes. Stop talking to married women like they're stupid. It's condescending, and I'm sure, I'm absolutely sure they hate it too. And the filibuster process doesn't involve any change of the rules. If you're going to filibuster, then go filibuster on the floor and make your case why Americans, why, 80% of Americans who believe in voter ID are crazy.
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