The Dan Bongino Show - This Is How The Media Spins The News | Episode 111

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Tuesday. It is great to have you here with us today. We've got a very special episode for you today. I'll be speaking with David Bezell. He's the president of the media research center, a guy who's an expert on the way the media operates and what to expect from them next. He's been watching it really closely. I've got all of that straight ahead on this edition of Vince. I'm glad you're here to join us for this. Hey, I got to thank our great sponsors. Blackout Coffee supercharges this show every single day. Quite literally, it gets me completely amped up. and you know this name blackout coffee they're the official coffee of everybody here at silverlock and there's a reason for that it's bold unapologetic america first coffee roasted fresh right here in the united states this is not grocery store junk blackout coffee delivers rich high quality roasts that actually taste like freedom and now you can set it and forget it with auto refill and recurring delivery this means no more running out no more watered down backups just your favorite roast delivered fresh on your schedule pick your favorite roast and how often you want it delivered not only do you get a discount but you also get double the rewards and free shipping
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Starting point is 00:02:13 nice to see you a lot of fun thank you appreciate it it's how is your dad doing by the way the president appointed him he's a he's a royal pain in the uh you know what right now he's president emeritus in the media Research Center which means he's got my old office and he's held up a sign napping in progress and he sends emails out to the staff not to wake him up uh-huh so but he's having a blast that's great so he's south africa ambassador of designee so i think his hearings are going to be right after a labor day oh finally yeah finally yeah he's um he got caught up in the logjam there's a I think somebody said that the Senate is on a record pace for presidential confirmations except for the fact that if they kept up that pace the president Trump's administration
Starting point is 00:03:03 would be confirmed in five and a half years it's so crazy it is taking this long I just talked to senator Schmidt actually Senator Eric Schmidt was on uh with us on the radio show on Friday and he told me that when they get back from recess yeah that they're going to accelerate everything yeah He said that they've basically come up with an agreement that they're going to try and blow past all this Democrat obstruction. Yeah, I mean, there's probably, I mean, on balance, there's probably too many people for them to confirm. There's 1,400 political appointees. And then all the ambassadorships go through Senate foreign relations.
Starting point is 00:03:37 That's the biggest quantity. And so you just get stuck in this log jam. But the founders did not intend for the president of the United States to never get some of his nominees through. That was not the point of this. of the founders intent for the United States Senate to be confirming the deputy deputy of deputy XYZ agency and so they just I think there's just too many people and and frankly this goes to government large ask questions and just excessive size of government there's too many people for them to confirm as the schedule presents itself and you know frankly I mean not to not to diminish
Starting point is 00:04:16 my father's chances of confirmation but they need to to work harder. They have this sort of Tuesday through Thursday schedule that needs to be expanded. Well, I mean, but Democrats, it's not, it's also that Democrats are intentionally obstructing this. A lot of these nominees used to make it through through something we call unanimous consent, which is they didn't actually have a hearing. There weren't objections raised. The president is entitled to get the guys he wants in place. The ambassador to South Africa, really, we're going to make a national issue out of this. But in your father's case, my suspicion is we are because the left hates your dad and is going to do everything they can to stop him probably some of the republican
Starting point is 00:04:52 echelon as well uh but look uh yes his is i don't think his nomination is controversial at all now it's a hot spot i mean south africa is no joke that's true and uh there's a lot of saber rattling going on all you know china etc um that that'll be for his that's his story to tell however um i could see why the senate would have a vested interest and and who's going to get that spot. Yeah. Geographically, it's an important spot. The president wanted a pit bull. My father's a pit bull. And so I can see them wanting a vested interest. That said, there's just little things in the confirmation process that you, that you sort of see throughout. At one point, they asked, is he a published author? Okay. Yes. Yes, he is. Could you send us everything you've ever
Starting point is 00:05:45 written in 40 years yeah i mean a twice weekly national column i mean did you guys go in did you guys to go find all that stuff you did a big dig we had a huge dig well not only that god for chat ch pt by though well you know what they want too you know what they want for these confirmation processes is not just everything he's ever written which is already a big hall they want every interview he's ever done yep they want every transcript everything your dad didn't your dad appear on hannity like once a week once a week like a thousand years in the old days of the crossfire who's on there once or twice a week, you know, with Buchanan and Kinsley and all these guys. So, I mean, the McLaughlin show, you did that plenty of times.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yes. This is a real test. He guess so should rush a couple of times. This is a real test of the media research centers resources. Yeah. Are you legit? Do you have the library? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:35 We've had to do our own digging for all that stuff to try to help them out. And, you know, thank God we've had, you know, most of all the television stuff we've had. Yeah. I mean, we just crossed our one million. millionth hour of recordings at the Media Research Center. So tell people, in terms of like your library, you do this, I tell my reporters at the Daily Caller, whenever we run up against the wall, we're like, we gotta find something from some old CNN thing from a decade ago.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I was like, I'm pretty sure the media research center has it. What do you have? What's the library that you guys maintain? A million hours. Everything that's ever been on news aired on television since 1987 is either on VHS or digitized right now. Every single hour. And we've had to, because VHS tapes only have a shelf life of about 13, 14 years,
Starting point is 00:07:19 we've had to re-convert all those things. Digitize them. To digitize them. So, yeah. So you have every- About a million hours. You have every hour of cable news since 1987? Just about, I mean, we used to, we, we were in competition, I think, with Vanderbilt
Starting point is 00:07:35 for the largest television archive in the world. And I think they even stopped. So I think, yes, we can say confidently that we have the largest television archive in the world. Isn't that wild? You know, sometimes we'll. Sometimes we'll press pause just because with with it's actually cheaper believe or not yeah it was cheaper back then so how's the archive than it is now now it's because you think well it's digitized and it's just cloud and everything's in the
Starting point is 00:07:57 cloud and it should be cheaper yes the VHS tape was like three bucks yep right and so you could put you know 10 hours on a VHS tape and no problem you can hold it presumably for forever AWS and all the cloud digitizing systems mean they they know that you know we're the only game in town So it costs us a pretty penny to put it all together. But it's important to have the verifiable record of how these guys are presenting news and information. And to be able to chronologically go back in history to see how they've changed or not changed. So my guess is that your dad, it can't be.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Your dad's confirmation process is not the first time that your media library has been consulted for presidential nominees. My guess is Republicans have often come to you and said, hey, could we get access to the archives? Well, Democrats, too. I mean, because we're a C3, we have to answer those phone calls. And so typically in a presidential years when these things get magnified, and we get a lot of phone calls from both presidential campaigns, and then a lot of senatorial campaigns as well. So we'll dish them out because we have to. We're an educational foundation. So by law, we have to do that. Back in the late 90s, early 2000s, Daily Wire kind of had us on a speed dial. They were calling us nearly every day because they were running just different clips. Not Daily Wire, I'm sorry, the Daily Show.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Oh, yeah, yeah. With John Stewart. So they would want, they needed clips, and they weren't taping like we were. And so, yeah, they would call us, you know, it was not uncommon for it to get calls from those guys. So, yeah. All the stuff that you saw on Comedy Central, more often than not, came from us in terms of if John wanted to run a clip and goof on right. Was that a weird feeling, though? Because, like, well, I mean, as a conservative, as you're, like, feeding the Daily Show's engines,
Starting point is 00:09:41 and they're using it constantly to attack conservatives. There must have been some feeling of like, oh, crap, what are they doing? In some sense, I think we, one of the things that we wanted to do too was if you couldn't take the heat, you shouldn't be on the air.
Starting point is 00:09:55 True. We wanted to, if a clip embarrassed a conservative, well, then maybe you've got to get better at your presentation. Now, if it was unfair, yeah, you'd feel a little bad, but again, by law, we had to.
Starting point is 00:10:11 uh we could not discriminate uh who you know uh based on political affiliation of the caller right who wanted the who wanted the video so by law we had to do it got it um so you can sit around and feel bad about it but you got to do it yeah it's just it's funny i didn't know that so um through the years uh i i guess i want to get to kind of how the media are today because they seem um they seem as hysterical over the top and powerless as i've ever seen them like i think in their powerlessness they they're becoming more crazy how have you seen the legacy press change through these years that you've been doing this well listen um their ratings on television are in the toilet right for CNN CNN lost 50 percent of its election night audience um it's not just it's not
Starting point is 00:10:57 just the networks changing or the cables changing it's also audience is changing yeah um so i ask people all the time when i do speeches raise your hand if you watch the presidential election coverage of 2024 the election night returns on television 80% of the room you know their hands go up believe you or not only 23% of the country watched election night returns of the 20 of the 2020 for presidential on television 23% yeah um everybody's coming here everybody's coming to podcasting everybody's coming to youtubes and yes types of things rumble rumble um so yeah right um so everybody's going to of these types of places yeah and uh and so the networks have had to adjust now i was looking at the top 100 news websites in america right number one can you guess number one news website in
Starting point is 00:11:50 america yeah is it the daily mail no new york times 435 million hits in the month of june 435 million wow right so a lot of that is is uh the word old and the crossword puzzles and stuff like that but uh to the extent that people it's still the driver uh of the narrative yes the left is in new york times cnn.com is in the top five uh now where are these things CBS CNN NBC MSNBC all their ratings are gone down yeah all their site traffic has gone down yeah but they have embedded themselves in apple news they've embedded themselves in google news yes they've embedded themselves in yahoo they've embedded themselves in MSN which which is Microsoft.
Starting point is 00:12:36 All those news pages are top 10 in the world monthly. Right. Okay, so they're still getting their message out through algorithmic aggregator. It's a force-feeding operation. It is. And so that's something that MRC 2.0, 2.0 has to tackle. In terms of our analysis, we've got to get comfortable
Starting point is 00:12:55 analyzing the big social media slash aggregator platforms like Apple, and a lot of that comes down to exclusivity contracts with These guys, usually if you go on Google events, it's New York Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox. New York Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox, right? And so the liberal media viewpoint is skewed heavily. Yes, that's for sure. And I know you've been. And those guys have hundreds of millions of visitors.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And you've had a great operation digging into all this tech corruption, too. I'll talk about more about this in a moment with David Bezell. Great to have you here with me today. Before we get there, I want to thank our sponsors. Act of Fitness, a great sponsor of this program. More and more Americans are prioritizing their wellness. They're getting back in shape. But studies prove that strength training does a lot more to help burn fat than cardio alone.
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Starting point is 00:14:59 forced upon us in many ways but it does seem that fewer and few people Fewer Americans are even paying attention to those spaces. A lot of people are just turning to social media to get their news. Right. And going to these alternative news sources to get their news. What effect has that had on our press, on the legacy press? Well, the believability of the media is at an all-time low. I mean, Gallup checks this every single year.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I think it's like neck and neck for Pelosi's approval rating and the liberal media's approval rating, right? There's a race to the bottom. So look, do they get eyeballs? Sure. Does the conservative media ecosystem put a mirror up and much like Media Research Center does and has to sort of show the differences how they present a story versus how we present a story?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Or how the conservative media ecosystem presents a story? Absolutely. Yes. But the believability rate is more important than anything. And the believability rate is in the toilet. so they really are losing credibility by the day I'll give you an example of why we had this is a testament to the archive that we have the the the broadcast news networks did not cover the Florida truck driver crash okay guy kills three people right allegedly okay
Starting point is 00:16:20 allegedly the guy kills three people allegedly Trump 1.0 refused to give him a license okay the Biden administration gives him a license he gets one in California, gets one in Washington, if somehow makes it down to Florida, makes an illegal U-turn, kills three people allegedly. Not a single second of that was covered by the broadcast news networks, not a single second. Now, they are not immune to covering other car crashes. They covered four other car. All three networks covered four other car crashes in the month of July.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So it's not like they're immune to covering car crashes, but the one that does not fit their open border narrative, they refuse to cover. Well, that's really the whole thing, isn't it? Yeah. It's now the most prominent way that they use their power is to omit context from their presentation. Yeah. So they don't tell you about the illegal alien who's killing people.
Starting point is 00:17:14 They don't tell you about Kilmar Abrago Garcia's MS-13 connections. Today, that's happening with Garcia. They don't tell you about the crime status in Washington, D.C. They don't tell you about the state of the homicides. They don't tell you that the president has stopped the homicides over the course of the last few weeks. They don't tell you anything. They basically pretend like anything that the left is involved with is running really, really well, and that the president's efforts to confront their actual failures are just a fantasy operation in the service of tyranny. Yeah. Bocata, Columbia has a 25,
Starting point is 00:17:49 Columbia has a 25 times better murder rate than Washington, D.C., okay, Bocata, Columbia. Yeah. The kind of thing that a fair and balanced news operation would present in terms of calculating why is President Trump sending in armed National Guard into the city. Yes. We've been here. We've been in Washington for most of our adult lives. It is not a safe place to walk around most of the time.
Starting point is 00:18:19 there are good pockets but there are pockets that have needed improvement for decades for decades and everyone who lives here understands us yes but the media does not want to give Trump credit for anything not one thing so so I have a theory about the effect this is having on the population and I think you just kind of alluded to the reality of it conservatives are more literate than their liberal counterparts yeah conservatives know a lot more by and large on average than the left does about what's actually going on in the world yeah and the reason for that is because we are aware of what the left claims the world is and we're aware of whether or not they're right we're aware of the responses right so for
Starting point is 00:19:10 instance during COVID the left had a disproportionately high perception that they were going to die if they caught the virus yeah there was something like 40% of all lefties thought that your chances of dying or ending up at the hospital were 50%. I believe that was the number at the time. It was a delusional, overwrought, hysterical interpretation of events that was only fed by the legacy media. That clearly, there was a poll that was done that found that huge numbers, about half of all Democrats, believed that Russia had changed the vote totals in 2016, that they had manipulated the election. Normal people, conservatives were not under that impression we knew better we knew that that was stupid that was a lie um and then
Starting point is 00:19:52 the media research center you did a survey about the awareness of the american people about the hunter biden laptop saga yeah and found that if more people were aware of what was going on that that would have potentially tilted the election for president trump to win it in 2020 yeah and so with all of that in mind i can't help but walk away with this conclusion over and over conservatives know what's going on and the left has no idea. Yeah, we did a survey post-2020 to shine some light on that. We asked only Democrats, were you aware of the Hunter Biden laptop story? To those that answered no, we explained a little bit of the guts of the story.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We said, and we followed up, we said, would you have changed your vote? Yeah. Right. And enough percentage would have changed their vote to have tilted all seven swing states into Trump's favor, all seven. So you're right. they don't pay attention to the other side you know the conservative media's ecosystem a more recent example in april trump's approval ratings were starting to swoon a little bit a lot of that
Starting point is 00:20:57 was the on again off again tariff discussion um bright part did a very cool analysis of they aggregated a bunch of a bunch of polls and they they looked at the the cross tabs of the polls in 10 year intervals 18 to 30, 30 to 40, 40 to 50, and so on. In every single age demographic, Trump was either neutral or plus since the inauguration, except for the plus 70 crowd or more seasoned audience. He was negative 14. Part of that was the liberal media day in and day out
Starting point is 00:21:33 trying to scare that crowd into saying that the tariffs were going to steal take away their social security. Yeah. Right? And it's, if you look at it's, if you look, at the cross tabs even further they're doom watching CNN and MSNBC every day and then come dinner time they're watching their favorite broadcast news network and it's just all anti-trump all day every day and so it's almost impossible not to come to the conclusion that Trump is this evil evil
Starting point is 00:21:56 person if that's all you're going to consume and that's what i'm seeing so this is i mean it's just amazing it wasn't that long ago that we said oh it's the it's the young people who are being misled they have no idea what's going on but there's some really interesting and rapid radical demographic shifts going on that President Trump is definitely and hugely responsible for young people are many of them are very conservative and we just saw in nearby Arlington Virginia this past week a a rally standing up on behalf of transing children like saying that boys should be in girls locker rooms etc and the crowd was full of old people yeah it was full of just old hippie Democrats who are there saying
Starting point is 00:22:41 that transing the kids is a wonderful thing, and if you don't do it, you're a bad person. And it wasn't like a bunch of young people showing up. It was old people who obviously consumed CNN and MSNBC all day. Yeah. It really does go to show you that the media, to the extent that it has powered, boy, it has a captive audience in an older set. And the downstream policy effect of that is, I mean, in Fairfax County, okay,
Starting point is 00:23:04 if you, if there's a segment of kids that are called furries, they'll dress up as cats and dogs and they'll meow and they'll bark in Fairfax County if you're in high school viz and you see a kid wearing a tail and you pull that tail get out of here okay it is a felony
Starting point is 00:23:27 and a hate crime no way and a $5,000 fine okay for the kid and the kid's family okay and the kids are all warned don't you dare pull any tails I'm sorry I've missed this I followed this a lot. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I just had kids go through high school and all their friends coming out of the public school system. We're like, this is what we were warned in orientation. You cannot, if somebody dresses up in a furry outfit and you pull their tail, it's a felony. Okay. So the people making that call, okay, are watching CNN and MSNBC all day long. It's so ridiculous. And we were high school guys, right? We were all high school guys.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Who among us? If there was a guy, if there was somebody walking by us with their tail, wouldn't pull that tail. What are the penalties for swirlies now? I know, right? I wonder. I know. I mean, it's silly.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. That's the kind of thing. That's the kind of downstream effect. Some of this coverage and this, this just obsessive desire that we just cannot treat anyone differently. So crazy. Yeah. Just when you think things can't get more demented.
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Starting point is 00:27:04 checkout these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease thank you to fatty 15 all right um david bezell of course here with us the president of the media research center the i want to talk to you about um how the media are reacting to the president's administration holding people accountable uh there was a raid on john bolton's home on friday in bethista maryland um it it appears that the reason that that rate occurred was that there was a very mature investigation into his theft of classified information and dissemination of it that was going on the Biden administration got rid of that investigation they canceled it out but it's been restarted by the current
Starting point is 00:27:50 FBI led by Dan Bongino and cash Patel so they they sent guys over and they raided the house and the office on Friday and we'll see what that investigation yields but the media this weekend went absolutely crazy over this David they were saying that this was so this was the show me the man i'll show you the crime operation they were bringing out all sorts of people who've made excuses for tyranny at the hands of the state when it's targeting conservatives what do you make of this reaction from the press and how much crazier do you think it'll get if we start seeing democrats picked up here this is why they have the believability their believability rate is in the toilet um they spent the better part of three or four months
Starting point is 00:28:30 cheerleading, the Biden administration, going down to Maralago and rummaging through Melania Trump's dressers? Yep. They spent the better part of 2021 and 2022 cheerleading, morning, noon, and night, this absurd case that Leticia James brought to the president and dumped on his lap. it's funny that it's interesting that the bolt the bolton announcement came right on the heels of the $536 million settlement in New York in New York's sake being wiped off the books for the president he's enjoying well I don't want I'll stop short to suggest that he's enjoying wins in these areas however he's been he's been vindicated sure now the press is going to have a choice okay if the investigation shows clear and present evidence that people within the
Starting point is 00:29:33 Biden administration Obama administration and perhaps even people who were in Trump 1.0 were engaging in treasonous activities are they going to cover this thing fairly or you know they would they would have to at some point admit their own complicit in this whole deal because they certainly played along. It was interesting. When Obama comes, descends on to Washington in 2008, no one really knows him, right?
Starting point is 00:30:04 The Washington press court has to befriend them, to befriend the Obama sort of entourage. And he has enjoyed sweetheart coverage ever since. For sure. And he has been sort of the narrative of President Obama is that he can do no wrong. He's been deified. He's been deified, and the question really becomes, I think he probably enjoys immunity on these decisions when he was in office.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But if he wasn't involved in President Trump's persecution after his term was over, it came on. And they're going to defend him, and they're going to try to position paint Trump as the authoritarian and the fascist and fascist and only out for retribution. But this is what the country, I think, voted President Trump 2.0 to do, right? Give us truth on COVID. You mentioned COVID early? Yeah. Give us truth on the election of 2020. Give us truth on Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Russia has now become puppet, puppet, puppet, puppet. That's the refrain that he's just a puppet of Putin. The guy's trying to end a war where, I think, six, or I don't know, whatever the number is. I think it's very difficult to get a hard number, but three million people have died? Do you think the media would rather more people die in Ukraine than President Trump bring up peace? Wow. I think some. Yeah. I think some. They don't want a victory for Trump. They don't want a victory for Trump. They don't want safe cities. They don't want clean streets. They don't want secure borders because those were things that he ran on and promised he would do
Starting point is 00:31:48 and he's doing them. They don't want the Democrat apparatus to be embarrassed anymore that they already are. They're trying to help the Democrat Party trying to get their sea legs back to find something they can run on in 20, 26 and beyond. Good luck throwing your hat in with Gavin Newsom.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I mean, as a conservative, I welcome his entry into the race. Who's the media's candidate right now? Well, right now it's Gavin because he can do some things on social media. that the other guys can't um if i're running the democrat party not that they're asking my advice i'm looking for a red state governor um that's kind of what they do when they really are in trouble right jimmy carter bill clinton red state governors are people that never really heard of
Starting point is 00:32:33 that could sort of pierce through their liberalism and reach the center a little bit more but they are so militant now it's so anti-trump in this era um that i think they're probably going to gravitate to the person who bangs their pots and pans aloud us and the best on social that's probably going to be governor newsome yeah well they're trying but man i'll tell you what i i i know that they keep trying but as i point out i do think that they're losing i'm encouraged by it i think they're losing power you know even like this msnbc rebrand thing yeah it's like so it's just it's just kind of sad to watch them whimper away to their death you couldn't get more boring yeah the MS now and just the blue motif and it's the same thing as cracker barrel you couldn't get more boring
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yes. The rebrand of that, which is boring and dull. It's, this is why like a, like the kid in New York is having success, right? Yes. He's not doing any of that, right? He's doing scavenger hunts with his activists, you know, in the middle of Manhattan. That's right. You know, if you're young and you're just, if you're young, so, I mean, New York's a little bit of a different story because there's, there's so much, there's so much childless stuff going on there.
Starting point is 00:33:41 There's just, you're, you're young professionals that don't have children to care about. right and and so some of those other public policy issues that we usually you know sort of surface up to the top don't surface to the top it's all about me me me um but he's doing different things he's not using the liberal media right to they'll echo him but he's not going to liberal media to for permission right he's going about he's going past and through them because he knows just like we do right that their credibility is in the toilet so why why get in bed with those guys so he's doing some different things and it's attractive to some young people in New York City but I think at the presidential level I think Newsom has a leg up for sure
Starting point is 00:34:24 because he's good on social and and it gives people gives the media something to talk about yes and they think that he kind of like what's more doesn't give people anything anything to talk about it's kind of you know all due respect he's just kind of like like wallboards right and also the legacy media's view on this is like that Gavin Newsom fits a formulaic of archetypical he's he's a good looking guy he's kind of doing what Trump did and what Trump did was successful so therefore what Gavin Newsom is going to do is successful it's very a low IQ assessment yeah but it's very typical for the media he acquitted himself pretty well in the debate he had with DeSantis you know being fair about it I mean DeSantis had the had the numbers
Starting point is 00:35:03 and had the policy but Newsom made a better presentation than DeSantis did when those two did that did that one-off debate yeah because just because Newsom is willing to casually lie to suggest that he's more moderate than he actually is. And the press won't call him out at all, at all. So that'll be the baked-in advantage that he has. A lot of people say, well, you have to go at him on the policy, on his policies. Like, I don't know how that's going to work because the press isn't going to back you up at all. No, which is why they're –
Starting point is 00:35:34 Which is why we just have to keep rooting on their demise. And when we write the obituary, the media research centers where we're going to find all the content. Thanks, brother. I appreciate it. It's great to see you today, brothers. thank you very much for being here anytime that's david bezell our thanks again to him for joining us on this edition of vince um i've got the big national radio show coming up today 12 to 3 eastern time you can check that out the vins show dot com find your local listings we're to rumble.com slash vince
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