The Dan Bongino Show - This is the Real Scandal # 941 (Ep 941)
Episode Date: March 21, 2019In this episode I address the real collusion scandal in the 2016 election. It involves political players from both parties and Ukraine. I also address the media’s efforts to silence criticism of McC...ain associate David Kramer’s role in the distribution of the dirty dossier. Finally, I address competing election models which predict a Trump landslide and a tough re-election. News Picks:John Solomon drops a bombshell regarding foreign collusion between the Clinton team and the Ukrainians. This McCain associate played a key role in advancing the dossier story. Daniel Greenfield’s new piece perfectly describes the implosion on the Left. Michael Barone’s piece lays out how the old political rules are new again. Rod Rosenstein is staying on at DOJ “a little longer than expected.” Pentagon identifies billions of funding for the new border wall. Why did Beto literally eat dirt after his loss to Ted Cruz? Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Solomon again.
John Solomon goes on Hattie last night,
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We were just talking about that before we got on the show here so uh we're gonna get to that i'm gonna
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So John Solomon, last night on Hannity,
he comes out and describes the scandal
we've been describing for a long time
that's at length described in my book, Spygate,
about the Ukrainian involvement in the election
to help Hillary Clinton.
Folks, we've been talking about this
forever. And can I just say on a side note, there's some lunatic out there. I'm not even
going to give this guy a time of day because he's so crazy. I'm afraid he might show up in my
community outside my door. He's so nuts. But he does these weirdo periscopes. He works for the,
I mean, literally works for the Russians. He keeps insisting that somehow we never discussed
this Ukrainian scandal as if my book, Joe, doesn't exist where you can actually read it like in the book.
But that would require you to. I don't know if he can read, actually, but he probably can't.
I mean, you may need to dictate it to him. But we've been talking about the Ukrainian side of this forever, like since the beginning.
Have we not, Joe? You are the producer for the show, right?
Yeah. Listen to the show. Go back in the archives. Check it out.
He does.
Exactly.
Thank you.
But he's a lunatic.
But Solomon is not.
John Solomon's a very good reporter.
And last night, he finally came out and dropped the bomb that there may be a tape out there.
Uh-oh.
A tape of Lucrezia.
An actual tape.
Like, Joe, in the collusion thing, what's been missing the entire time the collusion
hoax against trump yeah evidence evidence yeah there's no actual evidence that happened so the
ukrainians effort in the election to help hillary clinton now there's an ongoing criminal prosecution
in ukraine against people who may have uh tried to intercede interfere excuse me with our election
um there's an act there may be an actual tape out there.
So John Solomon has this piece up in the Hill.
Paul will put it up on the screen.
And he went on Hannity last night to talk about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, there is an actual criminal prosecution
ongoing right now in Ukraine about Ukrainians
who were embedding themselves in our election,
trying to help who?
Hillary Clinton.
Sounds to me like foreign collusion.
Here is a snippet from John Solomon's piece that I want to, I'm going to,
it's in the show notes, by the way.
Please read it.
It's short.
It's to the point.
It's in the show notes at Bongino.com
attached to today's podcast.
If you just click on the podcast link
in the menu on my website.
Solomon in his interview on Hill TV, he's talking to this guy, Lutsenko,
who is the equivalent of the attorney general in Ukraine.
He's the prosecutor general.
So Solomon asked Lutsenko about reports that a member of Ukraine's parliament
obtained a tape of the current head of this National Corruption Bureau
saying that he was attempting to help Clinton win the 2016 election,
as well as connections that helped release the black ledger files
that exposed Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's wrongdoing in Ukraine.
Quote, this member of parliament even attached the audio tape
where several men, one of which had a voice similar to the voice of Mr. Sintiak,
discussed the matter
folks we have been discussing ukrainian involvement in this thing for eons their
connection to alexandra chalupa a dnc operative who left their post at the dnc was having meetings
with ukrainian officials where she's bringing along a reporter and Mike Elizakov. The Ukrainians, some components of the Ukrainian government were clearly in the tank for
Hillary Clinton, were colluding with known Democrats and media officials. And we now have
an alleged tape out there, which, oh boy, we got to hear that tape of Ukrainians putting out the
infamous black ledger. For those of you who don't remember what the black ledger was, this is an important part of the case.
This is where the whole Paul Manafort thing starts.
Manafort is working on behalf of a Ukrainian,
the former Ukrainian head of state, Yanukovych.
It's alleged in this ledger that there were cash payments,
upwards of $ to 12 million dollars
made to Manafort and these payments were documented these illicit payments Joe in a ledger it's become
known as the black ledger no one has seen though this black ledger to date and it's not sure that
we're not sure these payments actually exist but the allegations of these illicit illicit payments
to Manafort are what started the whole anti-Manafort thing.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is like the greatest spy story ever told,
except the story's full of idiots and political morons.
But it is a fascinating story,
because the whole time we've been told what?
The Russians colluded to help Donald Trump.
That story is a hoax.
It has always been a hoax.
The Russians do not like us. They are not
our friends. I don't work for the Russians like that other goofball. The Russians are not our
friends. The Russians would get involved in an election in a heartbeat if they thought they could
overturn the results of it just to make the country eat itself alive. They'll try to interfere however
they can, I have no doubt. But Russian collusion with the Trump team is a hoax.
Yet Ukrainian collusion with the Democrats is looking not only more likely,
but more certain every single day.
Now, here's where it gets good, folks.
You have to understand the background of this
and why this story is so devastating to Democrats.
So again, let's not bury the lead.
I like to put the lead out at the start.
Solomon now drops this bombshell last night, this piece,
that there may be a tape out there of foreigners in Ukraine
talking about how they're going to damage Manafort to help Hillary Clinton
about these black ledger payments that may or may not exist.
Everybody copy that?
Copy.
That is the very definition of collusion.
Period.
This is one of the stories, Joe,
that they want desperately to go away.
Now, there's a backstory to this.
You have to understand
why the Russian collusion narrative
served as a cute distraction from the Ukrainian involvement in our election to help Hillary.
Paula, if you don't mind, put up that headline from Politico.
This is a story that goes all the way back to 2009.
This is what we do on this show.
I think you're going to have a hard time finding elsewhere.
It's a story by Ken Vogel and Ben Smith in Politico back in 2009.
The headline of the Politico piece, Obama consultants land abroad.
Where are they landing, Joe?
Well, I'll read the first paragraph.
Keep that up, Paula.
You can watch it on our YouTube.
By the way, if you want to see the video, youtube.com slash Bongino.
Check it out.
All these headlines will be up there for you.
If not, you can read them in our show notes. kiev and karkiv and other and karkiv and other cities
in ukraine american political consultants who works worked against one another at iowa new
hampshire and then in the general election are facing off again in somewhat surreal uh your
eastern european in a somewhat surreal eastern european replay of the 2008 campaign.
Joe, you see where I'm going with this?
Ladies and gentlemen, who was on one side back in 2009 of a political fight in Ukraine?
One side was Manafort.
I am not apologizing for Manafort.
He's already pled guilty to some pretty nasty stuff. I don't know Manafort. I'veizing for Manafort. He's already pled guilty to some pretty nasty stuff.
I don't know Manafort.
I've never met Manafort.
Manafort clearly should have handled his business a little differently.
But let's not gloss over the fact that what Manafort's alleged to have done with his violation of FARA, the Foreign Agency Registry Act, Joe, where he's alleged to be lobbying on behalf of Ukrainian officials without registering as a foreign agent representative, right?
That's what Farah is.
Who was on the other side of that, lobbying on behalf of foreign agents?
Paula, can you put up that headline again?
Obama consultants land abroad.
So whereas Manafort was working for Ukrainian Yanukovych Clinton people were working for Tim
Yashenko and Obama consultants were working for Yushchenko all opponents in over a course of time
in Ukraine of Manafort's guy Yanukovych folks this head-butting that was me smashing my knuckles together there this head-butting
knuckle smashing that was done started a long time ago this ukrainian involvement
and our involvement in ukraine goes all the way back it goes pre-2008 but the fight between obama
people who were loyal to one side in ukraine and Manafort and others who were loyal to the other side.
And Democrats, by the way, the Podesta people were involved with Manafort side.
Tells you, Joe, what?
That this is not partisan.
This is swamp.S. political consultants getting rich off foreign international strife in Ukraine
and hiding behind it in an effort to distract you by pointing to,
hey, look, Trump colluded with the Russians.
Pay no attention to what happened in Ukraine.
Why do they not want you to see what happened in Ukraine?
Because Obama and Clinton people were involved, too.
Hillary Clinton's pollster, if you read that political piece,
was over there in Ukraine.
Folks, this has been going on forever.
This is the real story.
Now, the fact that the Ukrainians,
who were likely aligned with the Clinton-Obama sphere,
who involved themselves in the Ukrainian election.
These Obama people were probably paying back some kind of favor by feeding to the U.S. government information on Manafort about these payments that may or may not have been made in an effort to help who Hillary Clinton.
That's the real foreign collusion story, folks.
Now, what else are they hiding?
This is why I'm telling you, my second book's going to blow your mind.
Because Connections came after the publication of my first book.
Connections became more transparent.
This Ukrainian angle to the story.
Again, we've got to be crystal clear.
The real collusion story,
not Russia, it's Ukraine.
And the real collusion story
is that Ukrainian officials
tried to help Hillary
and damage Trump.
And there may, may be a tape now.
Oh, we need to see this tape.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the part I was getting to
about Spygate 2 is
there are
connections and motivations people had that weren't clear at the time that are now crystal clear
joe who else was knee-deep in ukraine so now we know obama consultants were working there
we know hillary's pollsters and consultants were working against manafort who's working there
manafort's working with Podesta,
with John Podesta's brother,
Hillary Clinton's right-hand man's brother is working with Manafort against
other Clinton pollsters.
Why I'm rubbing my fingers together.
Money.
Cha-ching.
Yeah.
Winner,
winner,
chicken dinner.
Who can get over to Ukraine fast enough and cash out.
That's why I get really annoyed, folks.
I'll finish my point in a second, but this is important.
It's why I get really annoyed when people who read the first book or people who tweet
to me who are liberal lunatic goons who actually didn't read the book, they just comment on
it.
They're like, what do you think, Republicans weren't involved?
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm the one exposing all this.
I'm the one who I haven't even gotten yet.
I'm going to get to next to David Kramer angle and why criticism of McCain and
his staff's involvement in Spygate is totally legitimate.
God rest the man's soul.
It is not speaking ill of the dead to put out facts,
Joe.
So this doesn't happen again.
I'll get to that in a second.
But Joe,
have we not been all over the fact that
the involvement of key republicans in this was from the inception of the collusion hoax well did
you not read the book did you have you not listened to the show ever i'm sorry i don't mean to be
whiny i'm in a good mood i i'm really folks i just get upset because yeah yeah i just it bothers me
personally because i don't have a thick skin i I may sometimes appear that I but I really don't.
I've done a lot of good investigative work on this.
And in conjunction with D.C., McAllister and Matt and other researchers, I'm working with
and sources of mine.
And it indicates that there's been heavy Republican involvement, which we have gladly reported
on to out who, Joe, the swamp.
We're not protecting anybody here.
gladly reported on to out who, Joe?
The swamp.
We're not protecting anybody here.
This effort by the Ukrainians was clearly an effort to align
with U.S. politically connected figures,
which some Ukrainians in turn
paid back the favor in the Trump election.
That's the real collusion story.
Now, getting back to my point,
Spygate 2, one of the connections
we're going to make here
is the Biden clown,
the Biden crew, excuse me. Yeah. the Biden clown, the Biden, the Biden crew.
Excuse me. Yeah. The Biden clown. I almost slipped there.
That was a legitimate slip. The Biden crew.
Joe Biden. And by the way, there's a bright bar piece from a couple of weeks ago that came out that Biden's now Joe Biden, who's going to announce a run for president any day.
Joe Biden is starting to panic now because he's starting to realize that his son hunter his
son hunter's connections to both china where peter schweitzer was on with laura ingram last night
describing some of his chinese connections that are suspicious but one of the things we've been
highlighting extensively on this show is who else is tied to ukraine now we have obama consultants
clinton consultants tied to ukraine podesta, Manafort, all cleaning up in Ukraine.
We also have big lunch bucket Joe's son, Hunter, who right after a trip back in April, April 14th, when Joe Biden is the VP, his son, Hunter, conveniently gets a position, Joe, on the largest natural gas company in Ukraine, a company called Burisma.
How about that?
Conveniently gets that nice, sweet, how about that?
That nice, sweet board position on this Ukrainian gas company right after Joe Biden visits Ukraine.
My, my, my.
Any conflict of interest there?
You think?
You think? You think?
Folks, the real story they're trying to hide is Ukraine.
I believe this is why they had to shut Manafort up.
You understand, Joe, that if you follow my show,
I've discussed these three buckets, right?
that if you follow my show,
I've discussed these three buckets, right?
Plan A, the unmaskings and the misuse of the NSA database
to spy on the Trump team.
Plan B, when Plan A was exposed by Mike Rogers.
Plan B was the use of the FISA court
to legally spy on the Trump team.
Unethically and immorally,
but use the legal system
through the FISA court are spying the Trump
team plan c took effect when Trump run won the election unexpectedly and they thought they would
be exposed the appointment of Mueller was clearly clearly at this point an effort to keep the
attention off the bad stuff that happened in the Obama years and keep the attention on Trump. If you understand those three plans,
you understand why Mueller felt the need to prosecute Manafort so viciously
early morning raids and all this other stuff,
because Joe who understands the Ukrainian involvement of Hunter Biden,
of Obama's people and of Clinton people in Ukraine better than anyone.
Manafort,
Manafort does because he was on the other side
of this actually working with relatives of clinton people manafort had to be shut down
he could talk about expose this whole thing you may say well why prosecute him he'll get out of
jail sometime and write a book it doesn't matter the statute of limitations in our heads will be
long gone by that they needed to shut this down so there was no immediate call once Manafort came out and talked
about this for exposing all of these people who colluded in the election in Ukraine to help Mrs.
Clinton here. Folks, this is devastating stuff. And just to be clear, read the piece by Solomon,
because what he said last night was really profound.
He indicated last night there is a tape out there.
I don't know if he's heard it.
It's a little unclear when he said if he'd heard the tape.
He seemed to hedge a bit, and I'm not sure,
so I'm not going to put my show's credibility
on the line.
That's up for John to clear up himself.
But there's no question he indicated that there's a tape out there of people on a recording,
Ukrainian officials, talking about how they're going to impact the election negatively for
Trump to help Hillary Clinton.
We also know that Nellie Orr, Fusion GPS employee, was working for Mrs. Clinton. We also know that Nellie Orr, Fusion GPS employee,
was working for Mrs. Clinton.
We know
Nellie Orr
was one of her, she's indicated in sworn
testimony, one of Fusion GPS's
sources for their negative
information on Trump, was a
Ukrainian lawmaker by the name of Serhii Lushenko.
Folks, the Ukrainian
collusion story is
the story.
There is no Russian collusion story.
It is a hoax.
The whole appointment with
Bob Mueller to advance this thing
is additional proof that they're
trying to distract you with stupid.
There is no
collusion evidence.
Yet there's tons of evidence of Ukrainian collusion.
All right.
I want to move on because this McCain thing has gotten entirely out of control. And it's gotten away from facts and into personal stuff.
It's not even necessary at this point.
I'm going to get to that in a second.
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the news the last few days because uh trump and uh is gone after mccain uh john mccain uh and
listen ladies and gentlemen i'm not going to get into any of the personal stuff between the two
it's clear that you know mccain is now since passed uh uh obviously i'm it's i i you
know i don't care i don't i don't know mccain i never met him he never did anything for me in my
elections i have no allegiance here on on the on the issue to either side i have an allegiance to
the facts but i will say this joe criticism of mccain's role and his associate david kramer
in the distribution of the dossier, ladies and gentlemen,
is entirely legitimate.
And I don't care what anybody tells
you. I'm not going to be forced into your group
think and your nonsense
far left talking points. Because by the way,
the media, Joe, remember when McCain ran for
president against Obama? The media hated
John McCain. Called him a racist.
I mean, they put pictures
of him on magazines with bad
lighting that made him look like the devil incarnate.
So, you know, hard pass
on the media's defense of McCain
because the media were the ones attacking
McCain when I was the one out there
campaigning for him and voting for him.
So, please, give me a break.
Not
total garbage. Well, I couldn't campaign for him
at the time. That was my secret service days,
but I did vote for him.
And that was actually what spurred me that loss to get involved later on in
politics,
because I couldn't believe Obama had gotten,
gotten elected at the time and all this,
the stuff he was putting out there.
It was just amazing.
Ladies and gentlemen,
here are the facts about why this is because I'm being candid with you.
There are a lot of people in the cable news environment out there that are getting this story wrong.
The reason McCain's involvement in this is so devastating is because his associate, David Kramer, the one who was pushing this, Joe.
It's his connections to the media that are the problem.
Don't screw this up.
Let me explain to you.
Yeah, here's a piece by the Daily Caller, Chuck Ross, hat tip Chuck Ross, really good piece.
It's an older one from a few days ago, but it's very good.
John McCain associated contact with a dozen reporters regarding the Steele dossier.
I'm going to go through some snippets from these pieces in a moment.
But this is why you have to get the facts straight,
why McCain and his associate.
It's not that they passed it to the FBI.
Now, you may say the dossier.
I'm talking about the dossier.
Just to be clear, in case you're in the background,
McCain gets a copy of the dossier,
and we know, according to the testimony of Bill Price at the FBI,
we know this for a fact. We know in December McCain hands a copy of the dossier to the fbi ladies gentlemen that's
a fact that's not in question the fbi has already admitted it mccain's people have admitted it it's
not a mystery now that's untoward joe wouldn't you agree i mean a dirty dossier you got a senator
in his own party instead of confronting trump about it which mccain should have done because it was a political oppo document what does he do he gives it to the
fbi that's bad enough but i gotta be honest with you folks i have a problem with it i have i have
an ethical and moral issue with it he should have confronted trump first about it and figured out
it was a political hit job and it wasn't a real document but him giving it to the fbi all right whatever i mean
some mccain defenders are like well you know john mccain was unsure of the veracity of the document
show so he handed it off to the fbi to verify it again i don't buy that i think it was political
motivations because he didn't like trump but i understand i get it i'm not forgiving it please
don't email me why I'm not apologizing.
I just said to you,
I don't agree with that approach.
I think it was unethical and immoral,
but I get the,
the,
the,
the attack line they're taking.
You see what I'm saying?
I'm trying to give you both sides.
So you have a more robust argument when you argue with your liberal friends,
because this is what they're going to say.
They're going to say to you,
well,
McCain couldn't vary.
He's not an investigator.
He was a senator he
gave it to the fbi stipulated fine i don't agree with it i give you that that's not the problem
the problem is they gave it to the media
that's where the the talking head environment you're missing the point. The point is not the FBI because you're giving the left and out.
Well, the FBI was going to investigate it.
Fine.
Well, why did they give it to the media?
Have you explained that?
So you're telling the media was going to investigate.
I thought you said the FBI was going to.
So if McCain was so sure, Joe, you see where I'm going with this?
That the FBI was going to. So if McCain was so sure, Joe, you see where I'm going with this? That the FBI was
going to investigate it, then why does your
associate then hand it off to the media?
You just said you needed it
investigated because you weren't sure it was true.
So if you're not sure it's true, why are you
giving it to the media?
Why nobody
is calling out the left on this
and the rhino defenders of McCain?
I'll give you an example.
I saw Jamie Weinstein, who candidly I can't stand.
This guy is like the biggest snuggie wearing snowflake I've ever seen.
I can't stand this kid, really.
I used to run into him at a studio down here.
He pretends to be a Republican.
He's really just a big phony who attacks people on the left.
He's a total fraud.
But he's one of these guys on Twitter. Well, what do you want McCain to do? He passed it off to the left. He's a total fraud. But he's one of these guys on Twitter. Well, what do you
want McCain to do? He passed it off to the FBI. Well, I don't want his associate to pass it off
to the media, too. I thought you just said he passed it off to the FBI because it wasn't
verified. So you're passing off unverified information about the Republican nominee for
president. In that case, the winner of the election in December, unverified information
to the media, despite the fact that you just said you passed it to the election in December, unverified information to the media,
despite the fact that you just said you passed it to the FBI
because it was unverified.
Can you explain that?
No, of course you can't, because you're an idiot.
Hey, Mom!
I'm really fine.
Leave me alone!
What is she doing back there?
I was going to respond that it's dope,
but I'm like, you know what?
I'm not even going to tweet back because it's so stupid.
These guys are so desperate to protect the swamp.
Republicans too.
Oh, we don't want to talk about Ukraine because there are Republican consultants.
No, I do want to talk about Ukraine.
I want to talk about the people who took the money in Ukraine and people who knew about it.
That's what I want to talk.
I don't care who they are.
Who then had favors paid back later
for Mrs. Clinton
because they were working
on behalf of other people in Ukraine.
I want to talk about this too.
Let me read from the Chuck Ross piece
in the Daily Caller.
Here's a quote.
David Kramer,
who by the way is a known McCain associate,
a former State Department official,
said in a deposition
on December 13th of 2017,
listen to this,
that he provided a copy of Christopher Steele's dossier to reporters from McClatchy, NPR,
The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, BuzzFeed, and CNN's Carl Bernstein.
Oh, this is where it gets really sweet.
He also shared the report with State Department official Victoria Nuland.
By the way, wait, hold on, keep that up, Paula.
A known Clinton acolyte, back to the quote,
and Obama National Security Council official Celeste Wallander and Illinois GOP rep Adam Kinzinger, a known rhino.
So what is it?
Did David Kramer, the McCain associate, give it to the FBI
because it was unverified?
And if he did, why is he passing off unverified information to Obama State Department officials
who are Clinton bootlickers like Victoria Nuland, Obama national security officials,
and media people who are clearly leaning to the left with the one exception of the Wall Street Journal?
Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller? Buellerueller anyone have an explanation for that it is perfectly fair and entirely legitimate to criticize david kramer's role in advancing what
we now know to be a hoax dossier that was used to spy on what we now know are innocent American citizens.
How do we know?
Because it was used to spy on Carter Page and the Trump team, Joe.
And Carter Page has never been charged with even one crime involved in this.
Explain to me again why this isn't fair.
Now, in my first book, The Spy Game, which is still out now, it just came out a little while ago,
you can read in detail,
a hat tip to Denise,
who did a lot of good research on this, by the way,
in detail, and Matt,
John McCain's staff and their role in this.
We cover this extensively.
Extensively.
This is not new news.
And again, I just want to say one last time,
I don't agree with his decision to give it to the FBI,
but if that's the liberal take,
well, he was just verifying it,
okay, then explain to me
why he gave it to Obama State Department people,
Obama National Security people,
and liberal media outlets too,
if it was unverified.
No, no, no.
It was verified.
It wasn't.
It's never been verified.
You're lying.
And you just said you gave it to the FBI
because it was unverified.
If you knew it was verified,
why would you give it to the FBI?
To verify it?
You understand how they can't possibly
circle their way out of...
This isn't...
I don't blame Trump one iota for being fired up about this i've got a couple more of this i want
to get to but just one quick thing on trump and why he's so infuriated rightfully so about this
whole thing folks put yourself in the man's shoes imagine joe right joe runs for president he wins he finds out later that it's
alleged he colluded with the russians joe knows for a fact he didn't matter of fact he's confused
about what you're even talking about because he doesn't know what you're because it didn't happen
he finds out later joe that me an associate and a friend of his dan b Bongino, took a filthy dossier about a pee-pee tape about Joe that
doesn't exist and gave it to the, when Joe's up in Maryland, the Maryland State Police
to investigate.
How could you do this?
And while doing that, how could you do this to Joe?
Joe, I'm supposed to be a political ally of Joe.
McCain's a Republican.
Trump's a Republican, right?
You then find out that I took this dossier on Joe.
I had,
even though I'm his friend and I not only gave it to the Maryland state
police to investigate,
but I gave it to the Baltimore sun,
the Annapolis Gazette and other local papers to run stories on to make sure
Joe was humiliated.
Despite the fact that Joe did nothing.
Yes,
Joe,
you'd be quite upset.
Yeah.
You think you think a little bit now and now I love it that the fact that Joe did nothing wrong. Yes, Joe, you'd be quite upset. Yeah, you think?
You think a little bit.
And now I love it that the media that hated John McCain called him a racist.
You know, he hated old people.
John McCain was going to, you know, kill puppies and kittens.
I mean, they were savage to John McCain
while people like Joe and I were actually voting for him, by the way.
So don't give me your crap like this isn't fair game for us.
The same media people that savage McCain are now like, it is totally off limits for Trump
to confront McCain.
Listen, you got to be for the personal stuff.
Fine.
But McCain and his people, God rest the man's soul and his service to the country had a key role in the distribution of a hoax document used to spy on an innocent American citizen that does not change because he's left us.
None of it does.
And the only way to stop this from happening again is to find out who in each party, regardless of your political affiliation, was involved
in this scheme.
And I'm not letting it go.
I'm not going to be pressured into letting it go.
And I don't care about your group thing on that, frankly, or anything else.
And one more thing on this.
For those of you totally, Paul is like, please don't go here.
I can tell.
For those of you who've been emailing me about another situation, and you think you don't
know, and I'm sorry, I don't like to criticize.
I love my listeners, but I've been getting some emails about it. And you know what I'm talking about think you don't know and i'm sorry i don't like to criticize i love my listeners but i've been getting some emails about it and you know what i'm talking about you don't know the backstory joe knows what i'm talking about when you find out
another day in the it'll make a world of sense don't ever email me about criticizing my integrity
on stuff when you don't know the story sorry but it's it's just, I know my wife's going to be like, why'd you, because I have to.
I'm getting tired of this stuff.
Folks, you matter to me.
We have come on this air
and we've tried repeatedly
to get the truth out there.
The story matters.
The truth has not always been convenient.
The truth has been damaging
to Republicans sometimes too.
And it bothers me
when I get emails from people
who somehow think they know the backstory
and they don't and they're questioning like our allegiance to the truth like oh my gosh are you
guys obedient to your corporate masters really joe we have corporate masters did you know about that
no i'm a bit unsure about that
you don't know what's going on that's the problem that's what bothers me about it all right moving
on i'm sorry i'm really salty today.
I'm not.
I'm in a good mood, but I get bothered by all these constant attacks on nonsense.
We shouldn't even give it air time, but I have to.
Okay, moving on.
This is another quote from the Chuck Ross piece at the Daily Caller showing you how bad this really was, the involvement of Kramer and McCain associate David Kramer
in the propagation of the dossier throughout the media.
Quote, I met with Mr. Bernstein,
Paula highlighted this for us,
at Mr. Steele's request.
And I believe Mr. Bernstein had been in touch with Mr. Steele.
And so Mr. Steele asked me if I would meet with him
and talk with him about it. Since Bernstein was in the Mr. Steele. And so Mr. Steele asked me if I would meet with him and talk with him about it.
Since Bernstein was in the U.S. and Steele was in London, said Kramer, who was an executive at the McCain Institute.
Keep that up a second.
I met with Mr. Bernstein at Mr. Steele's request.
Again, John McCain's associate, David Kramer, an executive at the McCain Institute, meets with Carl Bernstein.
Remember Carl Bernstein of Watergate fame?
A reporter at Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele's request, the producer of the dirty dossier.
So again, explain to me.
I'd like you to explain to me with a straight face.
Please. How we shouldn't address that.
It's now off limits because McCain's,
we've lost McCain.
Again, I, you know, I don't,
it's, you don't want to speak ill of the dead.
It's not my goal here.
It's not my goal to add to anybody's pain.
It's not. But ladies and
gentlemen, this is a serious scandal.
And the fact that an associate
of a United States Senator at the time
was meeting with the FBI,
the State Department under Obama,
Obama National Security
officials, and then passing off
information to Watergate guy
Carl Bernstein at the request of a guy who produced
the hoaxed dossier, Christopher Steele,
is kind of a story, is it not?
Yeah.
Again, I'm still unsure why this
is off limits. Oh, because
the media said so. I'd give
it the double-barreled middle finger if it wasn't a family
friendly show right now.
I don't care. I'm not interested
in the media's opinion on it.
I'm interested in what happened.
This is Kramer's own words I'm giving you.
What, we're not allowed to use that?
We're not allowed to use McCain's associate,
David Kramer, his own words now?
Because the media said so?
BS.
Hardcore BS.
Oh, boy. Salty show today, folks. Salty. Yescore BS. Oh, boy.
Salty show today, folks.
Salty.
Yes, sir.
I'm actually in a good mood.
I am.
I keep saying it because I am.
I just...
Yeah, all right.
You know, you see the show
and you think the show's been so successful,
scars and all,
because I don't hide anything.
And, you know, I don't pretend, you know,
ah, pretend you got to let it roll off. People email me sometimes don't give these people air to know.
Sometimes they need it. You know, I'm just a guy and I'm going to defend myself and my reputation,
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Yes.
I'm putting these back.
They usually do it after the show, but then they sit there and float around.
For those of you watching again on YouTube,
youtube.com slash Bongino, you'll see what I mean.
This isn't like your normal show.
It's just not.
It reminds me of my old NRA TV show
where they were like,
hey, you think you want to use a teleprompter?
I'm like, nah, I'll just do it out of my head.
They're like, no one does a show like that
out of their heads.
I'm like, no, I do.
So I did a 30-minute show out of my head every day with a little bit of piece of paper in front of me.
I loved it.
It was the greatest thing ever.
All right, moving on.
So interesting piece up at Politico, which you'll rarely hear me say that.
They don't call it Bull.
Go for nothing.
I'll say.
But Politico, once in a while, will find a diamond in the rough.
They have a piece out about an economic model they use to predict elections.
And I want to contrast it with another piece I saw at the Washington Examiner doing my
show preparation this morning.
Joe, they have this economic model for elections.
And the economic model, here's a snippet from the piece.
The model's by a guy by the name of Luskin.
It says, Luskin's current model, which looks at GDP growth, gas prices,
inflation,
disposable income,
tax burden,
and payrolls,
has Trump winning
re-election
by a blowout margin
of 294
electable votes.
This is pretty crazy stuff,
right?
Yeah.
So,
I don't mean crazy
he's going to be re-elected.
I just mean that
it's economic model
the way it is now.
You would think Trump
was in deep peril by the way they're talking about. Trump, the way it is now. You would think Trump was in deep peril
by the way they're talking about.
Trump, the media,
Trump, Trump, Trump,
Trump's in trouble,
Trump this, Trump that.
This model has him winning
by a very handy margin.
Now, I only bring stuff up
if I feel like I have
some color commentary
to add to it and angle.
I saw an interesting contrast
with this piece this morning.
So just to be clear
with the leaders,
this model this guy Luskin's
used in the past
to predict elections
indicate Trump is going to win re-election in a rout.
But then Michael Barone had an interesting piece up
with the Washington Examiner.
And the gist of this piece that Michael Barone wrote,
it's in the show notes today,
I encourage you to read it,
is that what's old is now new again.
In other words, the title of the piece is
Old Political Rules of Thumb Are Yielding to Even Older Ones is now new again in other words the title of the piece uh is old political rules of thumb
are yielding to even older ones by michael barone uh march 20th 2019 washington examiner
what he's saying joe in the piece and he doesn't connect to this politico piece at all i'm just
making the connection myself is that a lot of these models that use basically the economy and other things to predict the election
may be now in fact wrong because we're back to pre-depression pre-world war ii type involvement
in politics let me let me explain that i know that sounded confusing so the political guys are saying
if you follow the new rules when the economy is good, Trump should be reelected.
Barone is saying, yeah, that may have worked after the Depression era and the World War Two era.
But if you look at politics before that, people strongly aligned with that partisan label, Republican or Democrat, regardless of the economy or anything else.
In other words, the rules about the economic models, throw them out the window.
We're going back to the old days again.
You tracking me, Joe?
It's important to understand the difference.
Yep, yep, yep.
Now, read the Barone piece because it's fascinating.
Sorry, my elbow's a little sore.
You probably see me moving on the YouTube rather gently.
Sorry about that.
Barone is suggesting that the Depression and World War II
changed everything, that the depression and the World War II changed everything.
That the depression was so traumatizing for people who lived through it, which is true.
My grandmother, who's still alive, gosh, you ever get her going about it?
It was, I'm sure, Joe, you heard from people in your life, too.
The depression was just a deeply psychologically traumatizing event for people in lives.
It was the worst economic depression in American history.
It was a traumatizing event. People remember government food lines and everything
that people, it's so frightened them, Joe, that it realigned politics,
that anybody they felt after that from either party that could get them out of this and protect
them against it. That was their guy, no matter what. So in other words, Joe, you had Republicans who voted for FDR.
He won in landslides.
I mean,
upwards of 60% of the vote in some of his elections,
because people just didn't want to go back to the depression.
They really didn't care.
You get what I'm saying,
Joe?
If the economy was,
if we were,
even though folks,
this is not an economic show today,
FDR prolonged the depression.
I just want to be clear,
but I'm not crediting FDR.
So again,
I, I, I, I know I'm going to get 100 emails on it i am not crediting fdr with getting he prolonged the
depression he made it worse but having said that when we got out of it some people didn't make the
connection and even though it was prolonged under fdr they credited fdr for this also during the war
the war was obviously i mean it goes without saying psychologically
traumatizing to people who lost loved ones and people who came home from the war sure and the
fact that fdr at least on the military side uh did quite a good job in defeating our enemies in
world war ii that a lot of republicans again, jumped across the aisle. So Barone is suggesting that before that era, people just aligned strongly with their politics.
In other words, throw this economic model out is where I think where he's going with
this.
Even though he doesn't reference a political piece, I'm going to make the connection.
I'm saying that to you folks because I don't want you to believe that this economic model
that Trump's going to win in a landslide is true.
Dan, why would you say that? You support the president. Yes, I say that precisely because
I support the president. If you think he's going to win in a landslide like people thought Hillary
was going to win in a landslide in 2016 show, what happens? I don't need to vote. Don't worry.
He's going to win in a route in Florida and all that other stuff, in Ohio, Michigan. I don't need to show up.
No, no, no.
No, no, you need to show up.
Read Barone's piece, folks.
All these economic models predicting a landslide and all this other stuff,
throw them out.
I took a note here.
This is going to be trench warfare.
Barone cites James Carville, Democrat strategist.
Remember the raging Cajun? James Carville, yeah, man. Remember the Raging Cajun? James Carville!
Yeah, man! Mary Matlin's husband? Snakehead!
The Raging Cajun? Yeah.
He's a slick debater, by the way.
You gotta watch that guy. The Raging Cajun.
He appears in that movie Old School at the end.
Remember that in the debate thing? It was pretty funny.
The Raging Cajun's economic
theory of this was, it's the economy, stupid!
You're gonna get re-elected on the economy, just like
Bill Clinton did, despite his foibles.'m telling you throw it out people cannot stand this president
on democrat side they are not going to cross the aisle many of them we are back to aligning
strictly along the party votes and democrats have a bit of an advantage
i took a note on this this is trench warfare now it's electoral trench warfare do not buy into this
it's going to be a route i'm telling you i think politico and others are writing pieces like this
joe to kind of put people at ease don't worry you don't need to show up no you do this is political
trench warfare the old rules are now new again.
And I took one other note here on my show sheet.
The 10-10-10 rule.
Make sure you either call, email, or make 10 social media posts each month before the election.
You want Donald Trump to win? Are you serious about it?
Call 10 of your friends.
Are they going to vote?
Gosh, the election's not for
over a year and a half. Doesn't matter.
10 social media posts.
10 emails.
10, 10, and 10.
Do it every month until the
election. Folks, this is
going to be trench warfare. Do not fall into
this trap that economic models
are predicting a landslide those rules are over okay um one final piece was good one daniel
greenfield who does some really terrific wonderful work at front page mag uh has a piece up about
something we were talking about the other day, Joe.
He even uses the word, cannibalistic implosion of the left.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a fascinating piece about how the left is bound to eat itself alive.
I've heard that before, yeah.
How the media, yeah, you've heard, me too.
How the media is pushing the 2020 Dems to the left by Daniel Greenfield
and what the Beto O'Rourke cover-up
tells us about the media. I'll have that piece in the show notes today. It is definitely worth
your time because it hits on a theme. The Democrats and the media have this symbiotic
relationship about how the media has a hierarchy, Joe, of how they choose to report stories.
And that hierarchy, when you understand it it you will get why beto's story
about being part of what was it the dead cow society or whatever um remember that hacking
group so this if you may i forgive me for jumping right in some of you may have missed it yeah you
remember the story but if you missed the show the other day folks a reporter from a reporter from
reuters sat on a story during beto's race with Ted Cruz for the Senate in Texas about Beto being involved with this allegedly criminal hacking group called like the Dead Cows or Dead Cow Society.
The name is so stupid, it's hard to even remember.
Yeah, Dead Cows, the Dead Poets Society.
Was that Robin Williams?
Dead Cow Society starring Beto O'Rourke.
Now, the Reuters guy sits on the story until after the election.
I mean, is there a more obvious example of media bias?
The story obviously reflects poorly on Beto.
Would it have hurt him?
People just loved Beto anyway.
I don't even think it matters.
He's like, like I told you, he's the Gozer from Ghostbusters. Remember gozer turns into the state marshmallow man. Beto's whatever
you think he is. So I, you know, Beto, they would have painted him as like the matrix character,
right? Joe Beto was involved in potentially criminal hacking or whatever. They'd been like,
he's like Keanu Reeves, man. Follow the white rabbit. Remember the lady in the beginning of
the matrix with the right rabbit tattoo, right? That's what they would have done. Cause that's
what they do. So I'm not even sure it would have hurt him. But the point is the Matrix with the right rabbit tattoo. That's what they would have done because that's what they do.
So I'm not even sure I would have heard him.
But the point is they sat on the story till after the election.
Now, all of a sudden, and this is where we hit on this the other day.
So you see where I'm going with this.
Beto announces he's running for president.
Joe, the dead cow society story.
Here we go.
Creeps out.
Beto's a hacker.
Wow.
All of a sudden it creeps out. Let me read to you from the greenfield piece because if you when you understand what greenfield's saying it makes all
the sense in the world quote the strategic timing he's talking about the release of the story
reveals the media's political priorities helping democrats defeat republicans and then helping
democrats defeat other democrats that are left less less leftist
than the ones they are helping within this hierarchy. This is important. Remember the
hierarchy, folks. The media will champion liberal Republicans against conservative Republicans.
First, it will aid Democrats against Republicans. Second, and then support socialists against
Democrats. In every confrontation, the media will pick the side that is furthest
leftward and use its power
to back its cause. Bingo!
Beautiful,
Daniel Greenfield. You are
darn right spot on.
Don't
let me tie this back to the beginning
of the show. We are not
here to defend Republicans.
We are here to get the truth out if republicans
go down with it then too bad not my problem that's their place shouldn't have been involved
in the first place i say that because don't get lost in this the media is only there to
defend the democrats no the media are there to defend liberalism.
There's a difference.
Now do you understand why the Beto story came out, Joe?
What's the hierarchy? Remember
the hierarchy? Democrats over Republicans
at all times. Who was the Republican?
Ted Cruz. Who was the Democrat?
Beto, as Tucker
calls him. So Beto's
story about being a member of the dead
cow society what's the rule Joe Democrats over Republicans right so is the story shelved or not
it's shelved maybe why is it Joe because it's Democrat versus Republican now Bateau who's
taken some moderate positions in the past, like votes on entitlement reform.
Now he's come out full-blown leftist.
Why is Bateau coming out full-blown leftist?
Because Dead Cow Society member Bateau
is coming out full-blown leftist
because he understands the media rules, Joe.
That he has a bit of a moderate past.
Bernie Sanders
and others,
some others in the race,
don't.
So,
Bateau is engaging
in a media protection racket
figuring that rule number two
always back the more liberal Democrat
over the other Democrat.
He understands
he'll be a casualty of this
and that's why the story came out afterwards.
Let me read to you more.
Joe, does that make sense?
Oh, yes.
When you understand the hierarchy,
your media rule number one,
always the Democrat over the Republican.
Back Bateau.
Bateau gets in.
Always back the more liberal Democrat over the Democrat.
Who's more liberal?
Sanders and these other people or Bateau?
The other people, not Bateau. So now
we can put out the Bateau piece about the
dead cow society.
That's why Beto
is now running in a
sprint to the left.
Because he needs to protect himself against the
media rules, which are always hammered
the Democrat in protection
of the more leftist Democrat.
Daniel Greenfield goes on in his piece of front page,
man.
Again,
read it.
The show notes.
Very,
very good.
Highly recommended to be a proper leftist is to live in perpetual terror of
deviating from the party line.
Leftist Joe wink,
wink,
nod,
nod like cannibals form it to lynch mobs for self-defense.
If they're lynching someone else,
their neck is momentarily safe.
What did I tell you?
That's a quote from Greenfield's piece.
What did I tell you in the show earlier in the week?
Liberalism is inherently cannibalistic
and will implode and collapse on itself
because unlike conservatism,
which has emergency brakes built in,
in other words,
there are lines you cannot cross
in your effort to advance individual liberty.
When you fight for free speech, Joe,
you mean free speech.
There is no freer speech.
You can either say something or you can't.
So when conservatives fight for free speech, there's a lit you get what i'm saying there's a limiting factor which is freedom
when you fight for you know tax cuts there's a limiting factor in tax cuts we obey the economics
generally of hauser's law when you fight for health care freedom you're saying i want to make
my medical choices there's a limit to like there there's the limit is that you make your choices.
You can't make your choices and make the same choice again.
Gosh, I hope I'm not losing you.
Nah, man, you're cool.
Yeah, you're good.
When you've reached a state of freedom and liberty, you're there.
Like you've reached the tip of the spear.
You're free.
Now the freedom has to be defended.
The tree of freedom and liberty has to be watered with the blood of patriots as has been said but when you
get there you're there you there's there's nothing else to say about there that you're there you're
free right that is not the case with government tyranny and control I had said to you earlier in the week that the lurch leftward continues to lurch
because it never ends.
I want a 70%
tax rate. Then you see Julian Castro.
I want a 90% tax rate.
Then you see Elizabeth Warren. I want to confiscate
the wealth of people who make this amount
or more. Then you're going to see people
later on. I want billionaires to be
banned. I want companies
to give over control of the company to
outside stakeholders that have nothing to do with the company. Folks, it never stops. This is why
socialism inexorably leads to starvation, poverty, torture, and political imprisonment. Because the
depravity never ends. I want to steal their stuff. Well, they don't want to give up their stuff.
Well, let's beat them to death. This is is where socialism goes this is why leftism frightens people like me
this is why leftism and the media's cause their advocacy for far far leftist is so dangerous
and what greenfield is hitting on although in the context of the media and the media rules remember
democrats over republicans far left Democrats over Democrats at all times.
That's the rules, right?
And liberal Republicans over regular Republicans, right?
This is why when you understand those media rules, you're now seeing this lurch farther and farther to the left.
It's not going to stop, Joe.
We had Kirsten Gillibrand come out yesterday, Democrat senator from New York working for, you know, working for, excuse me, running for president.
Well, how did it start?
Social Security.
We need to expand Social Security.
We need to take the cap off.
We need to expand Social Security to everyone.
Now, Kirsten Gillibrand, we need to expand Social Security to illegal immigrants.
She came out and said that yesterday. I told you it will never end.
Gillibrand and Bateau, by lurching far left, are trying to protect themselves against the media,
hoping that rule number two, always choose leftist Democrats over Democrats, will apply to them.
And when they go over to that leftist Democrat box, they won't be the subject of negative media reports.
Brilliant, brilliant analysis by Daniel Greenfield.
Very, very good job.
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I had a couple more things, but I'll get to them tomorrow.
It's a lot of new stuff, New Zealand gun ban
and other things like that.
We'll get to that.
It's just been a heavy news week.
And again, I'm just frustrated.
Forgive me for being emotional on today's show.
I really probably shouldn't waste so much airtime on other people, but I'm only human,
folks.
I'm just a dude like you, and my skin is not as thick as I want it to be.
And I feel like, along with the president, that we need to defend ourselves and defend
him.
This Ukrainian story is a big deal.
We've been covering it for a while, and it is perfectly legitimate right now to be asking very serious, sincere questions about McCain and his associates
and their involvement in the biggest scandal in US history. Do not be frightened away from this
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