The Dan Bongino Show - This Video on Big Tech Should Frighten Everyone # 1024 (Ep 1024)
Episode Date: July 17, 2019In this episode I address the frightening ability of big tech to manipulate election outcomes. I also cover the disintegrating immigration debate and the Democrats changing positions. Finally, I addre...ss the hidden scheme behind the “government option” for healthcare. News Picks:John Solomon’s new piece decimates the dirty dossier. Barack Obama once supported the same immigration asylum position as President Trump. Nancy Pelosi violates House rules in a desperate effort to attack Trump. Unbelievable! Sanctuary State California released illegal aliens charged with murder and rape. Population shifts are setting up a huge 2020 election fight. Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today
dano producer joe is a-okay all systems go joe do you know what vocal fry is i was listening to uh
uh yesterday to the radio.
He does some good interviews.
I think so. Yeah.
Oh, he was talking about vocal fry.
It drives me nuts.
I just listened to this interview between Gayle King and AOC and the squad.
And the vocal fry is, oh, I can't take vocal fry.
You know, vocal fry, I think they think it makes them sound more intelligent when they talk like that.
It is so irritating.
Yeah.
I cannot take it.
Just end your words.
Just end them.
Please.
Hello, Joe.
How are you?
Miss Turponchino.
I'm doing well.
End it.
Cut it off.
No vocal fry.
Oh, I can't take it.
No vocal fry.
I was just thinking.
I was listening.
We had a bit of a technical thing before this.
I said, Joe, hold on a minute.
I want to listen to this thing.
You know, AOC and the squad are accusing Nancy Pelosi again of basically the death threats that they're getting.
She's trying to tie them and her squad to Nancy Pelosi.
And the whole thing was the death threat.
Oh, my gosh.
The most annoying thing.
Even us imitating it is annoying yes it is okay i've
got a stacked show for you right in it i've got some video it's gonna blow your mind
big hat tip to breitbart for picking this out yeah on potential big tech right this is good
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Nice.
Right on target.
Okay.
Let's get right to this video.
This is Senator Ted Cruz.
Again, big hat tip, bright part. I retweeted this video this is senator ted cruz again big hat
tip bright part i retweeted this video hope you see it on my twitter account as well
um the audio lays it out completely though this is an expert in online manipulation i think he's
a social science researcher and he's talking about the threat Google, Facebook, and big tech can potentially pose
manipulating an election.
And he talks about this go out and vote message that could have been targeted to a specific
population and what he thought would happen if he did.
You know what?
Let me let him explain it.
When he comes back, I will talk about this because, ladies and gentlemen, this is really,
really scary stuff.
Play the cup.
Now, you described the go vote reminder and you said it wasn't a public service announcement, but rather manipulation.
Can you explain how?
I'm not sure everyone followed the details of that.
Well, sure.
Mark Zuckerberg, for example, had chosen to send out a go vote reminder, say just to Democrats, and no one would have known if he had done this, that would have given that day an additional at
least 450,000 votes to Democrats. And we know this without doubt because of Facebook's own
published data, because they did an experiment that they didn't tell
anyone about during the 2010 election. They published it in 2012. It had 60 million Facebook
users involved. They sent out a go vote reminder and they got something like 360,000 more people
to get off their sofas and go vote who otherwise would have stayed home.
The point is, I don't think that Mr. Zuckerberg sent out that reminder in 2016. I think he was
overconfident. I think Google was overconfident. All these companies were. I don't think he sent
that out. Without monitoring systems in place, we'll never know what these companies are doing. But the point is, in
2018, I'm sure they were more aggressive. We have lots of data to support that. And in 2020,
you can bet that all of these companies are going to go all out. And the methods that they're using
are invisible. They're subliminal. They're more powerful than most any
effects I've ever seen in the behavioral sciences. And I've been in the behavioral sciences for
almost 40 years. Folks, oh boy, that is not the most disturbing minute and 30 you've heard on
election manipulation a long time. i don't know what is
that is a hat tip to senator cruz and bright bar for the video great question great line of
questioning there and to the good doctor there in the social sciences for letting us know what
happened there think about what he just said facebook's own internal data from a geo tv get
out the vote um oh excuse me Google's internal data message, their own
data seems to indicate that they could have moved hundreds of thousands of additional
people to the polls.
And he brings up a fascinating point.
What if Google targeted this only to likely Democratic voters?
Ladies and gentlemen, 400,000 votes in select swing states could swing the entire presidential
election. No question about it. gentlemen 400 000 votes in select swing states could swing the entire presidential election
no question about it not to mention state senate state house of reps congressional seats u.s senate
seats some of these races are decided by a sliver think of the norm colman minnesota election which
flipped back and forth al franken wind up taking that seat based on some shady numbers. Folks, this is frightening stuff.
Now, you know my stance if you're a regular listener. I don't believe government intervention
here is going to help. I believe it's only going to exacerbate the problem when it comes to big
tech because the government you're assuming is going to be acting in your best interest,
not in the effort to suppress conservative thought, which will likely happen in the long run because the government will not be run by conservatives
the entire time.
I do not trust the government.
The issue and where I made the exception frequently, and I'll make it again, is when it comes to
elections.
We have very specific, I believe, very well done laws and regulations on election manipulation where the monitor is the FEC, the Federal Election Commission.
Ladies and gentlemen, there has to be a standard, some sort of, again, big tech or consumer bill of rights for election that you can be expecting from these big tech companies.
that you can be expecting from these big tech companies,
fair and open access to election data. And you can expect that any of their efforts that are pushed out to G O TV,
get out the vote are not in any way manipulated with any partisan intent.
If they are,
then that would be effectively an in kind donation to the Democrats and would
be illegal.
If you didn't declare it,
you track what I'm saying there.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
If there's going to be a Google, Facebook, whatever it may be, YouTube, Twitter effort
to get out to vote, there cannot be any partisan intent.
The FEC should be allowed to review those algorithms, the FEC, and to make sure they
are not targeted at a specific political party, Democrat or Republican.
I'm not kidding.
I have no interest
in these big tech companies pushing either side. If they want to do it as a public service,
broad-based, nonpartisan in intent, fine. But they should open that algorithm up for public review
for the FEC to look at, because if Google is pushing out only what they believe to be Democrat
voters to get out and vote and are manipulating elections, this is Orwellian frightening stuff.
Oh, man.
Very frightening stuff.
And the good professor pointed out it was subliminal.
So I'm kind of wondering if they'll even know what to look for.
You know, I don't know.
That's why we have to open up these algorithms for review when it comes to electioneering, any type of electioneering.
In kind, donate. Listen, I ran for office office a couple times so i'm pretty familiar with this in kind donations
the way some people would attempt if you didn't have to declare in kind meaning not there wasn't
a cash transaction let's say right the way people would get around donation limits if in kind
donations you didn't have to declare them is, let's say you own a tech company
and you want to give whatever,
Joe Biden's campaign,
a bunch of free services.
Well, Joe Biden's campaign
doesn't have to pay for those services now.
And if those services are worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars,
that's not fair to the other campaigns.
So Joe Biden's campaign
has to declare those as in-kind,
not cash exchange services,
but free services given to them. You have to declare
them. There are rules against
that. If Google's going to do a massive get-out-the-vote
effort and target it towards Democrats,
that's an in-kind donation to the Democrat
Party. You'd have to declare that. Of course,
Google would never do that.
But you're right, Joe. Subliminal,
it's kind of like that at the movie theater
where they used to briefly flash the popcorn
and the soda, and nobody saw it, and they're like theater where they used to briefly flash the popcorn and the soda. Nobody saw it.
And they're like, yeah, you know what?
I want a popcorn and a soda.
Yes, we wouldn't know.
But that's why you have to open up these algorithms.
Listen, I don't want to beat this story to death.
I was actually going to cover this last.
And I thought this is important enough that I open up the show with this.
This is a very serious topic.
Again, I'm not for government intervention.
This is a very serious topic.
Again, I'm not for government intervention,
but when it comes to a free and fair election,
declaring in-kind donations,
intent to these companies,
an open and honest intent about what they're doing.
If they are going to help the Democrats,
and that's their intention,
those algorithms should be open for government monitors and the FEC to look at.
No question about it.
That would unquestionably be an in-kind donation
and would be absolutely unfair to Republican candidates. All right, brother. That would unquestionably be an in-kind donation and would be absolutely unfair to Republican candidates.
All right, moving on.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the immigration crisis is absolutely exploding here.
I want to point out here,
I've got this, I've got Solomon's story coming up,
so don't go anywhere with that.
Another bombshell essay from John Solomon.
Completely annihilating leftist narratives, by the way.
But the immigration story's blowing up.
I've been getting a lot of questions
about the citizenship question, what it means, why Donald Trump attempting to put the
citizenship question on the census is a big deal. I had described to you last week in one of the
roadshows that one of the reasons the left fears the citizenship question is the way we allocate congressional representatives, not the Senate.
Obviously, the U.S. Senate, you get two per state.
Doesn't matter what the population is.
Montana gets two.
New York gets two.
I mean, I'm not talking down to anyone, but I do get a lot of questions.
I just want to be sure we're clear on this. to the founders was to make one of the bicameral branches of our Congress, the House of Representatives,
sensitive to population, while the other could display its own regional interests by having
two per state.
The House of Representatives being sensitive to population, you get roughly one congressman
for every 700,000 citizens.
Now, every 10 years, because the population of the United States increases and
decreases in certain areas, on net, we generally increase overall, but certain areas lose population,
certain gain. California and New York have been hemorrhaging people for a long time. Florida and
Texas have been gaining people. Therefore, they get more congressional representatives. Your state
bumps up by 700,000 people, you'll get one extra congressman or congresswoman.
That's obvious.
Now, if that's based on a pure citizenship count, California, which is populated because of its sanctuary state status, and I'll get to that in a second too, by a lot of people
here illegally would likely lose members of Congress.
The fact that they believe there is an undercount, there would be an undercount on the census on the citizenship question, although that's not its intent.
And I believe it's perfectly fair and has been asked forever.
An undercount of roughly six million people.
The Democrats are panicking because they think they'd lose how many, Joe?
About eight or nine congressional seats.
That's it.
Just it's not just the fact that the Democrats want representation in the House of Representatives based on illegal aliens populating those states that they want that.
They want to flood the country with people here illegally, not legally, and use them to gain voting power in the House of Representatives.
But there's a second reason.
The second reason is there's a cash value to this too in benefits paid for by who you of course you wall street journal piece
today it's a good one talks about the actual cash value in certain places of having people counted
in the country as who are here illegally and the cash value you're paying for it sanctuary cities
get a census bonus yeah by peter a morrison and david a swanson in the end it's all about money
money and voting power that's why keep in mind ladies and gentlemen this is not about
legal immigration of course legal immigrants green card holders uh people who are here and have become citizens
resident aliens of course they should be counted in the citizenship and we in this and we should
know how many people are here legally and illegally i don't think it's going to disincentivize people
but democrats will tell you that again because they don't want to lose congressional seats. But here from the Wall Street Journal piece is what every person here in the country illegally
is worth in Portland.
Check this out.
The citizenship question, quote, this also means more federal money.
Population data from the 2020 census will direct the flow of billions of federal dollars
to states and cities for 10 years thereafter.
Andrew Reimer, a professor of public policy at George Washington University, has identified more than 300 federal programs
that allocate funding based on census population count. Using his data, we estimate that Portland
stands to receive from these programs $2,772 per migrant and federal funds annually.
This is worth $27,720 over the next 10 years,
a quote, census bonus.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Democrats never tell you their true intent.
They're telling you, oh my gosh,
the census question asking about citizenship
is going to frighten people.
Why would it frighten people?
Why would it frighten? If you're here in the country legally and not a citizen, what's the
problem? You're here. Just answer the question. If you're here illegally in violation of our laws
and you don't want to answer and don't want to answer the question, then maybe you should enter
the country legally. This is not hard. This question has been asked throughout our history
and was asked on the community research
survey, the long form.
There's nothing controversial about this question.
They ask everything else in the census.
But now you know why.
Number one, they're afraid of losing congressional representatives.
And number two, they want your money.
They want you to be able to finance sanctuary states and people who just don't care about our laws.
How do we know that?
Because they entered the country illegally and said, ah, laws, schmoz, I don't really care.
I never thought of it that way.
So you're, well, now you know.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is real money.
roughly $2,700 per person here illegally in your money, while also allocating to those states that want and harbor people here illegally
through sanctuary state status.
In other words, come here, we won't enforce the laws.
They want more voting power, too, to take more of your money.
This is an endless spiral, downward spiral of chaos.
Take our money, we work for for and then get more voting power in
those states to vote to take more of our money in the end and what a disgrace by the way to people
in the country legally now immigration chaos continues it's not just that sanctuary cities
up at bongino.com and sanctuary states look at. Look at this disaster up at our website. Ice Sanctuary State,
California released illegal aliens charged with what?
Pet it.
Larceny.
No murder and rape.
Yes.
From the peace,
ladies and gentlemen,
as I,
and I discussed this on Fox and friends the other day,
you believe this?
The report by Breitbart Breitbart did a report extensively outlined that Sanctuary State California
routinely, routinely
Joe, released illegal aliens charged
with drunk driving. California
also released an illegal alien who was arrested
for drug possession. One month later
the same illegal alien was arrested
for murder and is currently in ICE
custody. Those charged with rape
have also been released.
Folks, as I discussed in my regular Monday morning appearance on Fox and Friends, this
is outrageous.
This is outrageous.
Not only is this a slap in the face, not only is this a hit to our wallet, financing the
law breaking into our country and the harboring of people who have broken the law in sanctuary
states, this is creating a public danger to the public
because what they have essentially created,
and someone on Twitter misinterpreted my words
during this Monday Fox and Friends appearance
where I stated what the Democrats want to create
is a class of super citizens.
The guy on Twitter thought I meant super citizens.
I mean it as a pejorative for the Democrats.
In other words, you and I, Joe, are subjected to U.S. law, obviously.
We have to obey laws we even don't like.
I can't stand Obamacare.
Frankly, I live in the United States where this garbage law was passed,
and we're forced to obey it until we can vote people out and change it.
I don't break the law as a matter of practice.
I mean, unless the law, you know, violates the civil liberties of others and civil disobedience is in order like we had in the Jim Crow Democrat run south, where luckily the freedom marchers went down there and broke this tyranny to pieces.
We have to obey the law.
That's not what the Democrats want.
They want to create a class of air quotes,
super citizens who don't,
who by the way,
aren't citizens at all.
They're here illegally.
Right.
And they don't have to not only obey the law,
they're not even detained on murder and rape charges.
These are people not subjected to any of it.
Our laws are meaningless to them.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the immigration chaos
we have found ourselves in with the Democrat Party.
It's utterly, completely absurd.
The super citizen is not meant to be a compliment.
Yeah, someone misinterpreted that.
Yeah, yeah.
What I mean is this is the Democrats' version
of where our country is going.
That lawbreakers
who enter the country illegally
are not subjected to the same laws
ironically of the people who actually
are citizens, came here legally,
were born here, financed the country,
worked to pay the tax dollars, and worked
to make the country a better place.
Now, one last story on this immigration chaos
because I got a lot to get to.
Folks, the Democrats morphing and evolving
is the term they use,
into the immigration chaos party,
which is what they are now.
Immigration is devolving into,
it's just, the Democrats Democrats standards now are open borders,
taxpayer finance benefits for illegal aliens,
sanctuary states,
super citizen status for illegal aliens.
It is entirely immigration chaos to show you how quickly they've evolved.
Donald Trump and his team came out just the other day with an initiative to
make people coming to the United States,
filing for asylum to make them file in the first country they arrive at.
So if you're coming from Central America, Guatemala, Ecuador, and you traverse Mexico first, you have to declare asylum in Mexico before you try anything in the United States.
Okay, is everybody clear on that?
We're good. You land in Mexico, you land in Canada, you have to file the United States. Okay, is everybody clear on that? We're good.
You land in Mexico, you land in Canada, you have to file for asylum there because your
asylum claim is supposed to be based on you believing reasonably that there is a threat
to you that you've been targeted for your political beliefs and that your life is in
danger.
In other words, you're not coming here for economic reasons.
You are coming here because you think you're going to be killed, tortured, or in prison
because of who you are, your political beliefs.
Right.
Therefore, if you're escaping and you escape to Mexico, you should file for asylum there.
Or in Canada, you should file for asylum there.
The Democrats, of course, are claiming this is racist, xenophobic. Ladies and gentlemen, here's video Barack Obama saying the exact same thing the Trump team said.
And notice there was zero goose egg media outcry at the time.
None.
Because the media and liberal activists are frauds.
They only want to impugn the integrity of Republicans who pose the exact same solutions
as Barack Obama. Here's Obama again proposing the exact same thing. Big hat tip to the examiner that
pulled this out. Check this out. As I explained to my fellow presidents, under U.S. law,
we admit a certain number of refugees from all around the world based on some fairly
narrow criteria.
And typically, refugee status is not granted just based on economic need or because a family
lives in a bad neighborhood or poverty.
It's typically defined fairly narrowly.
You have a state, for example, that was targeting a political activist and they need to get
out of the country for fear of prosecution or even death.
There may be some narrow circumstances in which there is a humanitarian or refugee status that a family might be eligible
for. If that were the case, it would be better for them to be able to apply in-country rather
than take a very dangerous journey all the way up to Texas to make those same claims.
up to Texas to make those same claims.
But I think it's important to recognize that that would not necessarily accommodate a large number of additional migrants.
Do you understand that's the exact same policy as Trump?
Where was the media?
That's right.
Crickets.
Nothing.
Folks, every day I wake up and say to myself, how can we point out the fact that hack media
activists and their liberal cronies are only in this to attack Republicans, to diminish
them, to gain political power?
Remember the golden rule.
I discussed this last night on Hannity
during my Fox appearance.
We think liberals are people with bad ideas.
Liberals think we are bad people with ideas.
They are not attacking us on our ideas.
How do I know that?
Because Barack Obama just gave a speech
that could have been almost verbatim a Trump speech
and the media said what?
Come on, cricket guy.
Come on, cricket guy.
Yes, I love this.
This is my favorite.
Who sent this to me again?
This is the cool.
If you're not watching this on YouTube.com,
check this out. They sent me this. This is the cool. If you're not watching this on YouTube, check this out.
They sent me this.
This is the greatest thing ever.
It's a good drop, too.
Nothing.
The media said nothing.
They said zilch, zero, nada,
because this is not about attacking ideas.
Liberals think we are bad people with ideas.
It is about attacking and diminishing bad,
air quotes, people. Therefore, go after go after trump well that's the same idea brought about by the obama administration how can we attack him come on
knucklehead this isn't about ideas trump orange man bad we must take him out it's got nothing to
do with ideas this is about power this is about votes this is about power. This is about votes. This is about money. And this is about attacking
the GOP and conservatives and libertarians, regardless of the exact same idea proposed
by Barack Obama. Ladies and gentlemen, please wake up to this. This is why I told you,
you're never debating the liberal. When you're out in public and you're talking and you're going
back and forth with them, and I do it on Fox, you're not debating them liberal when you're out in public and you're talking and you're going back and forth with them.
And I do it on Fox.
You're not debating them.
However, you should.
Why?
And that doesn't make any sense.
Why would I talk to people who aren't interested in facts and data?
Because someone's listening and someone is going to hear at some point that, wait, Barack
Obama supported the same thing.
And this liberal guy is attacking the conservative guy.
And the conservative guy pointed that out.
Then why is the liberal guy object to the idea if Obama supported the same
thing? Because the liberal guy just hates the conservative guy. She's maybe the conservative
guy is my kind of guy because the liberal clearly has no facts and data to back things up. You're
always arguing for the third person. Always, always. The liberal is lost. They are lost.
They have no adherence to principles or ideology at all.
This is all about the personal diminishment of Republicans.
Because remember golden rule number two.
Golden rule number one, they think we're bad people with ideas.
Golden rule number two, liberals never get you to vote for them.
They get you to vote against the other guy.
Whereas conservatives have a consistent platform that's been consistent for 40 or 50 years.
Economic freedom, healthcare freedom, school choice, pro-life, pro-second amendment.
Liberals do not.
Liberals have been all over the map.
Obama was against gay marriage and he's for gay marriage.
Obama was for asylum claims in other countries.
Now the Democrats are against it.
You had blue dogs that were for the Second Amendment in swing states who now can't stand the Second Amendment.
Democrats' platform changes all the time.
Why?
Because the platform is based on ideas.
And again, they don't have any.
Why?
Because a platform is based on ideas.
And again, they don't have any.
They don't get you to vote for them because they don't have a consistent set of ideas.
They get you to hate the other guy.
And that's where identity politics fills in the hole.
They can't get you to hate the other guy's ideas.
Why, Joe?
Because they had the same ideas.
I just played the tape for you, Barack Obama.
They can't get you to hate the idea
of asylum claims
in a third country. Obama said it.
So what do they get you to do? They say
asylum claims in a third country. You're definitely
a racist and a total xenophobe.
Getting xenophobe, getting you to
hate the person.
Don't vote for me. Vote against that maniac. Trump, he's definitely a xenophobe getting you to hate the person don't vote for me vote against that maniac
trump he's definitely a xenophobe but obama said the same thing it's not about the ideas guys
ladies please i know you listen to my show often if you understand those two rules you will your
political instincts will never fail you we think they're people with bad ideas they think we're
bad people with ideas and
Democrats never to get you to vote for them. It's they get you to vote against the other guy. If you
understand that you'll be ready for the personal tax and you'll be ready to refocus it on the facts
and the data that they don't have. I promise you, I have been debating liberals on television for
eight years. I can tell you with no air of pretension, I know this, I don't even care if you
think it's cocky or whatever. I can tell you I have never, ever left an appearance on Fox or
anywhere else, CNN or MSNBC when I used to do those networks, where I felt like I lost the debate.
It's not that I'm claiming some super high power social intelligence or IQq it's just that liberals don't know anything they just don't know it's an emotion-based argument always when they emotion you out emotion
them when they emotion you with facts that are wrong expose their facts as being wrong give them
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Yeah, yeah.
I need a shield or something.
I need like a Captain America shield.
I actually saw they have a replica
of the Captain America shield from the Marvel movies.
I'm thinking about getting it for my daughter for Christmas.
She loves, she probably heard that.
She's out there.
They're all from school.
It's the summer.
Good job, Shannon.
But they're really cool.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
I just totally blew it.
But it would be pretty cool.
It looks exactly like,
I think it even has the claws on it
from when Captain America's shield got clawed in that Avengers where Black Panther ripped it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, it looks great.
It's like the real deal, the leather straps and everything.
Although I'm sure it's not made out of vibranium, which they allege in the Marvel movies.
I don't think vibranium is actually real.
I'm actually 100% – liberals may think that, but I'm actually 100% confident.
Oh, yeah.
Vibranium.
Oh, I've got one in my head.
Vibranium.
It's all Mace's return.
All right, moving on.
John Solomon last night on Hannity.
Another piece, blowing the Dems' nonsense, collusion, hoax narrative out of the water.
Solomon always does great work.
Here's his piece at the Hill, up at the show notes.
Please check it out today.
And check out, by the way, we did some upgrades to the website.
I think you'll like it, Bongino.com we will have this article there uh john solomon at the hill fbi spreadsheet puts a stake through the heart of the steel dossier why this
piece why now folks this is important you have seen in the last few days, I discussed again on one of last week's shows, a renewed media effort again to rescue Christopher Steele as a legitimate source.
What's the backstory?
Why do you need to know this?
And why does Solomon's story finally do one of those big Brave heart, like spears through the heart of the steel dossier.
Okay.
Number one,
let's address question number one.
Why is the media Politico,
the Washington post and elsewhere trying to rescue Christopher steel,
the inspector general's report about the abuses directed at the Trump team and
spy gate is about to come out soon.
Folks.
I assure you,
it is going to be devastating.
In that Inspector General report,
from what I've heard,
it's been out there in the public forum,
sources are indicating that Christopher Steele was interviewed by the Inspector General.
Politico and the Washington Post put out reports
suggesting that, well, the Inspector General
found out that Christopher Steele,
the source of the dossier used to spy on Trump, Joe,
that is information that he may have been somewhat legitimate.
And that all us crazy anti-Trumpers who debunked the dossier a long time ago, we may be the crazy ones.
Why are they doing this now?
They're doing it because they don't understand what exactly the IG is saying.
what exactly the IG is saying.
Whatever sources told you Steele was credible,
Joe, all right, I need you to put the ombudsman hat on here.
That is not what the IG report is going to say.
Christopher Steele's credibility,
what they mean is he was telling the IG the truth about his bad information,
not that the information he got
was true okay there you go does that make sense yeah yeah yeah but of course politico and the
washington post in an effort to take the edge off this devastating ig report which is going to point
out the extensive reliance on a foreign source christopher steel to generate fake information
to spy on the trump team
to take the edge off the post and politico were trying to pre-advance the narrative that steel
was credible yes he was credible about his uncredibility there's a difference let me give
you an analogy as a former law enforcement officer if i'm a source and i'm copping to the fact that
i've been lying
to the police for years about my information, that I gave up all these people that weren't,
in fact, criminals. And then I come in with a lawyer one day and all these people were falsely
arrested based on my accusations. And I then in a proffer session or whatever it may be,
say to the government attorney with my lawyer present, listen, I'm about to come clean.
I said Joe Armacost robbed the bank. It to come clean. I said Joe Armacost robbed
the bank. It's not true. I said
Joe Armacost held up the local deli
at gunpoint. That's not true, too.
I can come out of that and say to
a prosecutor as an agent or a prosecutor
in the room, hey, I think he's telling us the truth.
That does not mean
his other information was true.
It is unbelievable how Politico
and the Washington Post can't figure this out.
So they're trying to advance
a narrative in advance of the IG
report that Steele was somehow credible.
We can now rescue the dossier. No.
No.
No.
Now, sticking
a heart in this stupid theory, so we
have the theory, right? WAPO, Politico,
others.
Steele may have been credible. Here is the first piece from John Solomon's excellent piece at the Hill. Some in the news media have tried in recent days to rekindle their love affair with former
MI6 agent Christopher Steele and his now infamous dossier. The main trigger was a lengthy interview
in June with the DOj inspector general which some
news outlets suggested meant u.s officials have found steel the former hillary clinton back
political muckraker to be believable no it goes on here's politico a quote from politico
investigators ultimately found steel's testimony credible and even surprising.
Again, Politico is not smart enough to figure out what I just said.
The Washington Post went even further, suggesting that Steele's assistance to the inspector general might, quote, undermine Trump world's all narrative that the Russia collusion investigation was flawed.
Here we go again.
This is fulltime political Washington Post
activism, liberal activism
for the... This should be an in-kind donation
to the Democrats. Understand what's happening.
Ombudsman Joe,
get what's happening.
The IG report will be devastating.
It's going to conclusively bury
the Steele dossier as a fake document
used to spy on a U.S. citizen. Period.
Period.
They are trying to rescue Steele dossier is a fake document used to spy on a U.S. citizen, period, period. They are trying to rescue Steele's reputation in advance so they can say in the end, well, you know, even the I.G. thought he was credible.
So the FBI got fooled, too.
Now we understand why they spied on Trump.
Nope.
Sorry.
That's not what they're saying.
The I.G. suggesting they're credible are saying that his information now about coming clean is
credible not the stuff he said before that's already been debunked okay but again they're not
they're not smart enough to figure that out it's not hard or they are smart enough and they're
engaged in full-time liberal activism the lat act activision that was a game system activism
the latter is probably the more likely scenario okay uh takeaway number two from the john solomon
piece quote multiple sources familiar with an fbi spreadsheet tell me that the vast majority
of steel's claims were deemed to be wrong or cannot be corroborated even with the most awesome
tools available to the u.s intel community one of solomon's sources estimated that the spreadsheet found upward of 90 percent
of the dossiers claims to be either wrong non-verifiable or open source intelligence
found with a google search in other words it was mostly useless so let's be clear about what
happened solomon reveals last night on hannity and in his piece. That is spreadsheet Joe has surfaced with the FBI. In that spreadsheet is allegation number one, status.
Allegation number two by Steele, status.
Allegation number three, where did these allegations surface?
The dossier and in Steele's other information.
Remember, it wasn't just the dossier he produced.
It was another series of information as well.
You go back and listen to some of my older shows,
you'll understand what I mean there.
That's how Clapper and Brennan get around around the whole we didn't see the dossier yeah but you were talking to steel right it was other information the fbi ladies
and gentlemen kept the spreadsheet and 90 of the claims in the fbi's own spreadsheet were
unverifiable folks do you understand how bad that is for a credible air
quote source i could go to the gym tomorrow and ask a guy to speculate my day off my joints are
sore ask a guy to speculate about the next al-qaeda attack in the united states and i can guarantee you
probably 20 or 30 percent of their guests, one of them will be right.
Well, it's going to be an attack maybe in New York, God forbid.
They're probably going to use some kind of explosive.
Seriously, if I ask someone to speculate
on the next terror attack in the United States as a source,
keep in mind, some rando in the gym
who has no intel experience at all,
I can almost guarantee you 20 or 30% of their predictions,
God forbid there are one, will be right.
Steele was 90% wrong, unverified,
or simply found the stuff on the internet.
Jeez.
Joe, if you ask kids in a grammar school who wants homework,
you're going to get probably 10-15% that will raise
their hand. You have a better chance of getting
kids to volunteer for homework than proving
one of Christopher Steele's assertions right.
The spreadsheet is going
to be an apocalyptic disaster
for these FBI managers
who relied on Steele's assertions to spy
on a U.S.
citizen. This is
unheard of.
This thing was useless.
Takeaway number three from Solomon's piece at the Hill,
the FBI's final assessment.
They're talking about a steals credibility was driven by many findings
contained in the classified footnotes at the bottom of the spreadsheet,
but it was also
informed get a load of this i told you about this weeks ago we were ahead of this but it was also
informed by an fbi agent's interview in early 2017 it happened in january that's me that can tell you
that with a russian that steel claimed was one of his main providers of intelligence according to
solomon's sources the fbi came to suspect that the Russian misled Steele
either intentionally or through exaggeration,
the sources said.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've already described this to you.
You're way ahead of the curve if you've been listening to my show.
The FBI, and Jim Comey knows about this,
interviewed one of Steele's alleged Russian sources
he was colluding with.
Remember, that's the real Russian collusion scandal. Hillary paying Steele, going to Russians.
That's the real collusion, right? The FBI located one of Steele's Russian sources,
Joe, and interviewed them in January of 2017 and found the information to be a steaming hot pile of garbage.
Well, why is that a problem?
Because ladies and gentlemen, they continue to go back to the FISA court
three more times
knowing Christopher Steele's information
was debunked by the State Department
in the Kavalec interview,
by the spreadsheet Solomon just found that surfaced,
and by the January 2017 interview
with the Russian source Steele claimed to have who was garbage they had nothing
that's why the Washington Post and Politico is desperate to establish Steele as credible
they're gonna say oh we all got fooled. Look,
even the IG thought he was
credible.
Red flag under the hood for
review. No ducks.
There's laundry
on the field, folks. This one actually landed
right behind me. Thank you, everyone.
We need a yellow flag,
though. We need a penalty flag.
The red flag is to review the play. We need the yellow flag, though. We need a penalty flag. Because the red flag is to review the play.
We need the yellow flag for holding 15 yards offense.
We need a yellow flag, too.
Cry in the wind.
I get so much.
I know.
Ever since this show exploded, every time I say that, people sense that.
It's very nice.
We got the whistles.
We got the cricket.
We got the red flag.
We got the famous referee hat. We got props everywhere. We're moving to. We got the red flag. We got the famous referee hat.
We got props everywhere.
We're moving to a new studio.
We'll have more space in the future.
So hopefully one of these days.
Yeah, we'll have a prop room.
Updates.
I know.
Seriously, right?
Don't we?
All right.
I've got a lot more to get to.
Good stuff today in the show.
Stack, stack lineup, including this story about why the government option, single payer, Medicare for
all, is really a backdoor way to sleaze you out of your insurance plan now. Now we've got the
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So interesting story in the Wall Street Journal
today, again, about how this Medicare for all government option nonsense is a big scam.
By Scott Atlas, title of the piece, Public Option Kills Private Insurance. Now, some of you are
being misled, or as Al Sharpton once called it, misled. You're being misled into, he did on a
prompter, he misread the prompter, misled. You're being misled into believing that the government option is this benevolent thing.
Now, what is the government option?
What are Democrats saying?
Why is it going to affect you?
Number one, the government option is Joe Biden and others claiming, well, you know, if we
just started a government run health care plan and don't force people off their private
plan like Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders wanted to do.
What's the harm there, Joe?
No big deal.
You can just go over to the government plan
if your private insurance plan isn't meeting your needs.
Even some moderate Democrats are kind of like,
well, that doesn't sound so bad.
Yeah.
Ladies and gentlemen,
there's always a scam with the Democrats.
Always. And leave it to the Dan Bongino show to uncover the scam for you what is the scam well number one what a government plan
or option is intended to do is to cost shift the only way a government plan can stay in business
joe is by rationing and underpricing that care, meaning paying doctors
and hospitals less than their market share value. How do doctors and hospitals recoup those costs?
By overcharging people with private free market insurance. As the piece indicates here, here are
some meat on the bone numbers for you. Excellent work here. They say in the Wall Street Journal piece by Scott Atlas,
consider the experience in Hawaii.
This is the only state in the union where they actually tried this.
A public option.
Only seven months, Joe, after offering care in 2008,
the country's only statewide universal child health insurance,
the state ended its optional program only
seven months afterwards.
Why?
Because 85% that signed on to the health care already had private insurance.
Those costs were suddenly shifted onto the taxpayers.
In other words, people who already had free market insurance, Joe, already had it, canceled it because they didn't want to pay the premiums to jump on to get taxpayer-funded government programs instead.
The piece goes on.
And the piece goes on.
Wasn't that a song?
The beat goes on.
The beat goes on. This guy knows
everything about music, Joe. I don't know.
I'm a pop culture. I always listen.
Although everybody liked my Iron Mike
Sharp reference yesterday on WWF. Thank you
for the emails on that. The public option
would cause premiums for private
insurance to skyrocket because
of underpayment by government
insurance compared with the cost
for services.
According to the American Hospital Association,
annual underpayments by Medicare and Medicaid
surged to nearly $76 billion in 2017,
nearly doubling once Obamacare's regulations came into play.
That added a burden of more than $1,500 a year
on families paying private premiums.
Ladies and gentlemen, the math is not complicated.
The government will not pay because they can't.
The tax base is not there to finance insurance for the entire world.
Illegal aliens, everybody who can afford insurance.
Keep in mind, this is not a medicaid they're talking about a
government option for everybody so what will the government do and again joe put the ombudsman i
gotta get you an ombudsman hat put your ombudsman hat on for a moment if this makes sense here
what the government will do because democrats want to destroy free market insurance you control they want to control
your health care because the democrats are in love with control that's what they do that's their
socialist streak right in order to make sure private insurance disappears they will undercut
their premiums dramatically you're paying whatever, $500 a month.
Democrats will come in, institute a government plan for $250.
Now, again, you may say, that's crazy.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, that may sound spectacular,
but the problem is if you're costing $500 a month in those premiums
based on your healthcare needs, someone's got to come up with the $250
that the Democrats are charging you
via the government plan.
Who's going to do it?
The answer is free market insurance.
You're now going to pay $750,000,
but to pay off the difference
between what governments are paying doctors and hospitals
and what people actually cost doctors and hospitals.
You're going to pay.
Meaning what?
That $250,000 you're paying in government insurance is now going to
look a whole lot better compared to the now $750 you have to pay with free market insurance to
cover the difference, which is going to wipe them out. How does that feel? They want to cancel
your private insurance. So any of these lunatics out there on the left telling you,
well, free market insurance, this isn't an attackatics out there on the left telling you, well, free market
insurance, this isn't an attack on if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Remember yesterday
show Joe Biden dragging that thing out of the water again, that disastrous line. You will not
be able to keep your plan. A government option is a backdoor Trojan horse effort to undercut free
market insurance
you have now
and many of you like
to overprice it,
to offset the difference,
to drive them out of the market,
to crush it.
Now, folks,
there's another portion
of the Atlas piece
that should disturb you.
You'll say, well,
it works in Sweden
and the United Kingdom.
Oh, does it really?
We sure about that?
Again, double red flags on the show.
Under the hood for a view from the
Wall Street Journal piece.
Foreign experience is also instructive.
More than 600,000
Swedes currently buy
private insurance. How's that?
How is that? I thought they had single payer for everybody
in Sweden. According to Insurance Sweden,
on top of paying, on top of
paying $20,000
per family
annually through taxes for their
socialized system.
Digest that for a moment, please.
Digest that for a moment.
Verdi, Verdi, V.
Yeah.
Bjorn Amaker.
So, just to be clear
on this, Bernie Sanders and all the socialists
oh he loves sweden it's so great so in sweden where they have nationalized health care the
average swede is paying twenty thousand dollars in taxes for health care that's allegedly free
it's free but it costs twenty thousand as pj o'rourke said you think health care is expensive
now wait till it's free in addition to that six hundred thousand swedes are buying additional
insurance for the insurance they're not getting through the free insurance they got that they until it's free. In addition to that, 600,000 Swedes are buying additional insurance
from the insurance
they're not getting
through the free insurance
they got that they paid
$20,000 for.
Am I following correctly here?
Oh my goodness.
So the Swedes have free insurance
that costs them $20,000
and in addition to the $20,000
they're paying for a free product,
they're also,
600,000 are buying
additional insurance
to subsidize the free insurance
they got but the $20,000. Does this make any subsidize the free insurance they got.
But the $20,000, does this make any sense?
Yeah. If it doesn't, it shouldn't.
Yeah.
Moving on.
In addition, while the United Kingdom is surely an example of how well this is going to work in practice,
despite spending thousands of dollars through taxes on the NHS,
half of Britain's earning $50,000 a year or more
by private insurance or plan to.
And some 250,000 pay cash for medical services
according to official statistics.
Combine this with the statistic I read for you yesterday.
It's 63,000 Canadians a year,
despite free insurance,
are crossing the border into the United States
to pay for it again here.
Ladies and gentlemen,
this is the biggest scam ever.
Only suckers believe insurance or healthcare is free.
Suckers, with a capital S.
Yes, if you believe health insurance and healthcare are free,
you're a sucker.
You are clearly not a bright person.
I'm sorry.
I'm not trying to insult you.
It's just true.
You're just not a bright person. You'm sorry. I'm not trying to insult you. It's just true. You're just not a bright person.
You have no interest in facts or data or elsewhere.
In socialized countries, people are paying again because the taxes they pay are still rationing their health care, so they have to pay cash.
tried this government option they dumped it after seven months because people who could pay for health care canceled it to take your money taxpayer money to pay for health care allegedly that's free
scam scam scam one last thing quick story leave you off on uh we have a file on the show a file
cabinet it's in my mind it doesn't really exist exist. There's no room in here. His office is too small. But we have the hat tip to Tom Moore, you're a racist file. We pull it out
once in a while, and it's things you'll be accused of being a racist for by the left, because as we
opened up the show, Democrats don't get you to vote for them. They get you to vote against the
other guy. One of the ways to do that is by convincing Democrats that every Republican or
conservative is somehow a racist. So everything's racist everything air conditioning um no it's true that's misogynistic
turning the air conditioner on we talked about that last week voter id you know it's clearly
racist according to democrats yeah but i gotta tell you joe this one even surprised me this is
the washington post which pretends to be a newspaper, declaring, Joe, that the moon landing, the moon landing, this is an actual tweet, is racist.
Here's a tweet from the Washington Post.
The culture that put men on the moon was intense, fun, family, unfriendly, and mostly white and male.
So now the moon landing is racist.
This is allegedly a serious newspaper. I mean, this is you will get more verified, better, more quality information from the National Enquirer than you will from the joke of an activist outlet called The Washington Post.
But this is surely a new low.
The moon landing was racist.
So in the end, I want to I wanted to play this just quick video of this.
I mean, of course, if the moon landing was racist, then guys who advocate political leaders, Joe course if the moon landing was racist then guys who advocate political
leaders joe for the moon landing am i right here have to be racist too i mean simple logic correct
to be yeah i'm not thank you i mean of course of course they have to be so here is according
to the democrats and washington post who must be a racist the great john f kennedy who apparently
is now a racist advocating for going to the moon.
We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon.
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things,
not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Now, I thought that was a great speech.
I actually admire a lot about JFK including his push to cut taxes.
But apparently according to the left
in the Washington Post
he was a racist for wanting to go to the moon.
Again, if you're laughing at the idiocy
and wondering why we cover this stuff
it's not to embarrass you
or insult your intelligence.
It's to show you that you're not dealing
with rational people.
And if you remember the two rules I told you, you will always understand what the liberal
activists in the post are there for. Yeah. Liberals think we are bad people with ideas.
We think they're people with bad ideas. Number one. Number two, liberals never get you to vote
for them. They just demean and destroy the other guy and vote you to get it, get you to vote
against them. You understand those two rules. your instincts politically will never ever be wrong you know what jfk was uh he was a spacist racist
of course joe has to throw in one of his witty joe one-liners at the end he must have been he
must have been a spacist you don't even need the race you just need a spacist that says it all
maybe we'll throw that on a t-shirt for that.
Was JFK a Spaces people?
What is that?
Listen to the Dan Bongino show for answers.
Episode 1024.
Very nice, Joe.
You're a witty cat.
Unlike me.
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