The Dan Bongino Show - Troubling Questions About Epsteins Death (Ep 1042)

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

In this episode I address the deeply troubling death of Jeffrey Epstein, and the significant questions we should all be asking. I discuss the new revelations in the Spygate case now that this new Bruce Ohr information has come out. I also address the trouble with “Red Flag” laws. News Picks:“Red Flag” laws are a big problem. Here are the issues. Jeffrey Epstein told guards this, weeks before he hanged himself.  This week in AOC gaffes. Attorney General Barr is looking into the suspicious death of Jeffrey Epstein. The FBI has some serious explaining to do after the release of the Bruce Ohr 302s. The Second Amendment is an individual, not a collective, Right. Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the damn bongino show producer joe back on this fine monday how are you sir it's a happy happy monday yeah yeah listen sorry about friday the video on youtube you know we do our best in road shows, but I got a lot of emails from folks. They're like, you know, I was in the screen, and the reason is I brought the mic stand, and I think I'm better off holding the mic on road shows.

It was like the equivalent of like three feet of Dan Bongino in the screen, but the show did well on YouTube. It was an important show on Friday about the Bruce Ohr 302s. Let me tell you what we're going to get to today. Obviously, the deeply disturbing revelations about Jeffrey Epstein's death. Lots of open questions on that we're going to get into.

I've got more information, as I promised, about the devastating revelations in Bruce Ohr's interviews with the FBI. There's some nuggets in there that are just definitely worth your time. I also want to get into red flag, these horrible red flag laws. Oh, man. The hypocrisy on the Second Amendment from some on the left who don't seem to understand the Bill of Rights. And hopefully get to some Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders stuff stuff too, who just entirely discredited themselves.

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Let them know we sent you to support the show. harrys.com slash Bongino. All right, let's go. Nice. Okay. Folks, the Epstein death this weekend in the cell at mcc listen i i know mcc well the is it the metro correctional uh facility there where epstein died jeffrey epstein for those of you unaware of the backstory i know many of you are, but Epstein was currently awaiting trial for prosecution on some really atrocious sexual misconduct allegations against minors.

The stories are deeply disturbing. Many are aware of him. He was having young ladies as young as 15, according to the allegations, do things to him. It's you know, I try to keep this show family friendly most of the time, but you can get the point. It was pretty gross. Right. The reason the Epstein case was so controversial

is because of the connections Epstein had. Epstein was deeply connected to a lot of Democratic donors. He had this island where a lot of high profile people were alleged to have visited. There were allegations some of these high profile people were the recipient of treatment, let's say, by these ladies as well. That was pretty gross and disgusting. So nobody knew if Epstein was cooperating or not. Epstein were to talk, the rumor mill was that it was going to bring down a lot of important,

prominent people who may have been engaged in the same kind of disturbing behavior. Okay, we get that out of the way. Let's get to the problem first. Obviously, losing a subject of an investigation who dies in your custody is incredibly disturbing as a cop a former cop and a former federal agent folks i did the cells in the 75 precinct the cells that when you were a new guy you got thrown in the cells a lot you basically sat there in the holding cell in the precinct and your job was you basically had one job well maybe two fingerprint the people who were brought in on the live scan machine and make sure they don't harm themselves in the cells. You had one job. One job.

Apparently, MCC blew it on this one job. Now, Bill Barr, the attorney general, as we can see from this Daily Caller piece, is apparently pretty disturbed by this, too. William Davis wrote this in the Daily Caller. Bill Barr says Epstein's death raises serious questions. Yes, obviously. That's going to be in the show notes today. Check that out. The DOJ and the IG are looking into this. I want to get to the meat and potatoes here, ladies and gentlemen. First takeaway, the FBI and the IG, the inspector general looking into the death of Epstein this weekend, had damn well better handle this quick. They better handle this by the numbers and they better handle this publicly.

Folks, I'm going to wait till the facts come out. I don't engage in theories I can't back up. But I think Joe and I would both agree the questions surrounding this alleged suicide are numerous and are worth entertaining and worth getting to the bottom of quickly. I can't say this enough, that our constitutional republic lately appears to be hanging by a thread, whether it's Spygate, the relentless attacks on Donald Trump, the collapse of our legal system with the judges acting as politicians. Folks, the trust in our justice system and our FBI sadly is at an all-time low. It's not a reflection of a lot of the working men and women there, but what the managers

did to the Trump team destroyed their reputation. You now have the subject of a criminal case that could bring down some connected high-profile elitists, many on the Democrat side of the aisle, who obviously own our academic institutions ideologically and our culture, and all of a sudden he shows up dead in a cell

in one of the most secure facilities in the country? They darn well better handle this quick and by the numbers. And there are a ton of open questions now let's do some rumor control first all right number one he was not on suicide watch this is important folks we shouldn't be theorizing on anything till we get the facts in this really it just discredits everyone later on epstein was not on suicide watch. Now, what's disturbing about that, I'm just putting it out there as a fact. I'm not saying that was the right call. Look at this Daily Mail piece we saw, which again will be in the show notes today. Epstein had already told the guards before he hanged himself

that someone tried to kill him. Questions mount. This is a Daily Mail headline, Chris Spargo and Andrew Court. Questions mount over why billionaire pedophile was taken off suicide watch just this kill him questions mount this is a daily mail headline chris spargo and andrew court questions mount over why billionaire pedophile was taken off suicide watch just this sex slave lawsuit naming powerful friends including prince andrew why was he not on suicide watch right right folks dear joe there's obviously a paper trail here. Was some mental health professional involved here? I mean, how of all the people not on suicide watch, how did this guy make the list? He clearly was open about efforts he felt to kill him.

Clearly there was an incident a week ago where there were allegations of self-harm. How was he not on suicide watch? Another question I have for you. I have a ton of open questions here. Folks, I know MCC. I know how it's laid out. How exactly did he do this?

Again, I'm trying to keep the gory details out, but how exactly did he do this? When you see how the cells are laid out, how high they are, how there's not really anchor points or anything, how they don't really give them a lot of metal and things to work with, and even the sheets they give them aren't,

like weight, they're not capable of bearing weight. Joe, they give them like, it's like a paper type sheet it doesn't bear weight in other words if you were to rip it yeah exactly into like a rope type thing how exactly did it happen again i'm not i'm not suggesting anything i'm just asking legitimate questions here how did this happen how was he not on suicide watch how mechanically did this actually happen this better go public quick because there are a lot of questions out there another open question as we've discussed on this show many times before folks again it's not

when before i get into this i want to be crystal clear on this. Because people are using my name, by the way, for viral clicks on their website. Secret service agent this, they're talking about me. I've seen it. A lot of you sent it to me. Don't buy a lot of their hype. Get it from me here on my show. The information I have about Epstein is not mine. I was not the witness.

I have about Epstein is not mine. I was not the witness. For those of you who missed the show where I discussed this, a person came to me a certain time period ago with some information about some behavior by Bill Clinton that was suspect at best on an Epstein plane. That's the totality of the facts. When that person is ready to share that, I will be happy to bring it out on this show

or he's welcome to do it somewhere else. That's what I know. But I know that the behavior by very powerful Bill Clinton, even to this day, even though his political capital has diminished greatly, was at best suspicious Clinton, even to this day, even though his political capital has diminished greatly,

was at best suspicious, at worst, deeply, deeply troubling. I'm just tired of my name being thrown out there like I'm hiding something. It's not my information to share. What I have and was given permission to share, you have. Not hiding something from you. What would be the purpose of that, Joe? Yeah, I've seen those tweets. No, that don't make any sense. I've seen it.

Yeah, it's annoying. It's getting a little, yeah, people are doing clickbait stuff on their website. You know, conservativewarriorwhatever.org.com or something. Secrets are ready to blow. It's not my info. Get it? com or something secret server ready to upload it's not my info get it so if that's another open question just when are these people going to come out and

talk about what we know but secondly there have been a number of allegations about Jeffrey Epstein's ties as a potential human source or to the intelligence community. Open question.

What exactly did Epstein, what kind of knowledge did he have? Was he working as a human source for the FBI? Was he working for intelligence, some kind of foreign intelligence? I'm not suggesting he was some, you know, a Mossad asset. I'm just suggesting to you that there's an open question out there as to why he was some, you know, a Mossad asset. I'm just suggesting to you that there's an open question out there as to why he was given some of these deals in the past. And was there a trade-off? Was he working as a source for someone? All right. All right. Now, folks, I'll throw this out there as well. And I have to be cryptic again, because this is not my information to share.

And I don't violate people's trust when they tell me that. But I know someone is working on a story, someone you and I both know, that's very big with regards to this. Very big with regards to Epstein. And I'll leave it at that. There's information out there and there may in fact be evidence out there, hard evidence of what's been speculated in the past about his behavior around these young women. Again, it's not my story to share. When it comes out, I will share it on the show. I'm just telling you there are a lot of open questions about who was watching Epstein, who Epstein was watching for other people, who Epstein was dealing with, who was watching the people Epstein was dealing with.

I'm giving you a wink and a nod because this story I think is bigger than even you know. Copy. But again, I'm not going to speculate on the circumstances of his death until the information is out there, but I'm clearly going to tell you, a lot of you emailing me this weekend like, Dan, this is suspicious. I don't disagree. How is a guy who is alleged to have tried to harm himself already, not on suicide watch, while connected to some of the most powerful people in the world in a devastating case of

alleged sexual misconduct? How he was, I have no, i cannot explain that with a straight face deeply deeply disturbing all right i want to get into this and i want to get on kind of a flow here folks because i want to get back to the friday show this is going to be about a 20 minute segment but there is some devastating nuggets and a theory i want to throw out there that I've heard bandied about, about exactly what was going on post-Trump election to explain why the Democrats wanted to re-engage Christopher Steele. I promise you're going to love it. It's very simple when I get to it, but this one's going to open your eyes. Let's get to this quick and then we can rock and roll. This is important.

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work for Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein, left her staff to still try to, after the dossier had been debunked, put some meat on the bones of it. Why were they trying to re-engage Steele as late as May of 2017? After Christopher Steele, the author of the debunked dossier used to spy on trump i think all of you know that why were the democrats still looking to engage this guy keep in mind ladies and gentlemen he gives information throughout the summer of 2016 they use that information steals paid by by team hillary Hillary through Fusion GPS to gin up this fake dossier with all the nonsense, the pee-pee tape, the ridiculous Carter Page allegation. He was being bribed for the tune of $7 quadrillion. It was so stupid.

They were like, I mean, if you read the dossier in his face, you'd laugh. Why were they still trying to engage this guy if they already knew he was a liability? You tracking? Yeah. Is the basic question set up here? Because when I give you the answer, it's going to blow your mind even more because you regular listeners understand why. The Democrats know by May of 2017 that the guy who produced the information to spy on

Trump is entirely discredited. Right. The Cohen Prague story is false. The PP tape is false. The Carter Page thing is false they're getting all this heat and yet as we can see i want to hat tip the conservative treehouse guys they have an interesting piece on this this is a a tweet from mark warner this is their labels on they did a good job of this here is a excuse me not a tweet forgive me a text the conservative

treehouse guys again have this up a text from mark Mark Warner. And look at the dates, folks. May 31st of 2017, where Mark Warner, Democrat senator on the Intel Committee, is clearly trying to reengage Steele. Let me read for you this text so you understand what's going on. Here's Warner. He's talking here to Adam Waldman, who is a lawyer representing Steele, who also represents this influential Russian, Oleg Deripaskaaska connected to Putin. Senator Warner, we want to do this right. Private in London don't want to send letter yet because if we can't get agreement, would rather not have a paper trail. So Warners, be clear what's going on here, folks. Democrat Senator Warner on the Intel Committee is texting this lawyer working with Christopheropher steel warner's trying to re-engage with steel through this lawyer but does not want to set up a paper trail

walden responds that makes sense glad to keep trying to intermediate and see if i can convince him to speak with you directly he's talking about steel at the moment steel seems spooked no pun intended warner responds to that keep me informed also any news from your other guy on manifold waldman responds to that my other guy the conservative treehouse guys think he's talking about darryl poskett certainly possible but waldman responds my other guy likes steel very mistrustful of u.s government he's been essentially shut out of the country and dragged through the mud. I explored this question with him last night in person. This is

damning stuff, ladies and gentlemen. With the OR 302s and the exposure of the fact that ORs continue to be used as an intermediary as well, Bruce Ohr, the DOJ official doj official between steel and the fbi

despite the fact that steel on paper christopher steel the source for the dossier has already allegedly been terminated by the fbi as a source uh back in november joe because he was deemed unsuitable for use for talking to the media here we get the the 64 trillion dollar question what the heck was steel on paper at least terminated by the fbi as a source for talking to the media yet the democrats are still trying to get in touch with him and bruce or is still talking to steel and passing the information to the f. What is going on here? Please tell me you get this set up because when you get the answer,

it's going to kick you in the rib cage. Okay, I'm waiting for the kick. Yeah. Well, here it is. Folks, may I suggest to you that our theory that the dossier Steele produced is not the Steele dossier that our theory is behind all of this?

Folks, I'm done with my second book. It's going to be out in just now a couple weeks. Exonerated. It's available now for you to pick up. When you read this book, this is going to open your eyes. Folks, this was not the Steele dossier. The information in that dossier,

it's looking more and more likely by the day, was produced by the movie script author, Glenn Simpson, who wrote the piece in the 2007 Wall Street Journal about the exact same players in the dossier. Also, it now appears Bruce Ohr's wife, Nellie Ohr, who worked for Fusion GPS, the same company as Christopher Steele, was producing dossiers herself. Now, some of you may have made the connection. Some of you may have not.

Let's just get to the hook. Okay. Folks, they're trying to reach out to Steele because they want to make sure Steele shuts his mouth. And that Steele story is going to stay consistent. Yeah. Think about it. Yeah. Think stay consistent. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it.

Think about it. Yes. Why is Christopher Steele's name on a dossier used to spy on Trump if it's not his dossier? Why? Why put his name on it? Folks, you already know the answer

because you're regular listeners to this show and you're very smart because if you put glenn simpson's name on the dossier the fbi would have had to verify him as a legitimate source because he hadn't worked with the fbi in a formal confidential human source way in the past and if they had to go out and verify Simpson and his information in the dossier, Joe, what would have happened? They would have found out that the dossier was. Let's see who says judges ruling information crap. They would have figured out immediately that the information was garbage if they had to do the homework of verifying the Simpson or dossier.

OK, so some genius said, well, I've got an idea. Let's go out and hire this guy, Christopher Steele, who's already worked with the FBI and already has that FBI badge of honor as a source. So they won't do the extra legwork to verify it because Steele's already a

verified source. Yeah, but it's not Steele's information. It's ours. Doesn't matter. Nobody's going to verified source. Yeah, but it's not Steele's information. It's ours. Doesn't matter. Nobody's going to check that. Joe, please tell me you're picking up what I'm putting down. It's simple.

Now, all of a sudden, the information's entirely discredited. Steele's outed by a bunch of media outlets. Trump surprisingly wins the election. They thought all this was going to go away. And now, all of a sudden, people start asking questions. Hey, Steele, is this your information? Well information well i never really been to russia not recently this is the democrats mark warner and the bureau the upper level of the fbi through bruce or who's still meeting with steel after he's been fired air quotes by the fbi to do what? Folks, it's obvious to get Steele to shut his mouth. Yeah.

Because when Steele comes out, Joe, and says, hey, the Steele dossier is not the Steele dossier. This isn't even my information stem. They just put my name on it. You realize they're, well, their whole case is already falling apart. But another ax chainsaw to the redwood of this case. Timber. The whole thing collapses.

Yeah. Keep them close. Now, not only is this. Yes. Yeah. Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. This is not what it appears to be.

Dan Jones, who leaves Senator Feinstein, Democrat Senator's staff on the Senate Intel Committee. Remember, Feinstein's on the Intel Committee managing this whole Spygate thing with Democrat Mark Warner. Jones isn't leaving to continue the investigation into Trump. They know Steele's information is garbage. Jones, Waldman, Warner, Feinstein's crew, the Bureau, they're only talking to Steele to give him a couple pats on the back, to grease him, to get him to shut his mouth. You get it?

Look at those texts. Warner's desperate to keep the relationship going without a paper trail. Why? Why not want a paper? Folks, why would you not want a paper trail? If Steele is a verified, authentic source with legitimate intelligence information on the sitting president spying for the Russians, why would you not want a paper trail? Because Warner doesn't want anybody to know he's meeting with Steele. Hey, Chris, you know, I've been on the Senate Intel Committee.

You know, we've been working this Spygate scheme the whole time and the spying scandal on Trump. Hey, Winkin and I, Chris, you're not going to say it's not the Steele dossier, right? You're going to still say this was your info, right? Because the only way the FBI could have used it is if it was your info. Right, right. Steele was a front. Steele was a front. They don't want him to tell the truth that's all coming out now with these or 302s the or 302s show a continued relationship with steel after he's fired folks i'm telling you it's not for intelligence gathering it's to get Steele to shut his mouth. Wow. Yeah. Wow is right. You're

darn right. You want more proof? Here's another screenshot from the or 302s that were released. Look at what they did here. Not going to read the whole thing. It's up youtube.com slash bungee. And I'll read to you the portion you need to see. So they're interviewing Bruce Ohr, the FBI. Again, these 302s are memorandums about their interviews with him. Ohr's still communicating with Steele. They say on December 20th, 2016, 11 a.m., Ohr provided this writer, talking about the FBI agent who's taking the notes, with a USB micro drive, a thumb drive.enn simpson and fusion gps hired or his wife nelly or to conduct research for his firm or voluntarily provided his wife's research to the fbi or provided the interviewing agent with the thumb drive and indicated it contained the totality

of the work nelly or conducted for simpson get a load of this. Here's the killer line. But the Fusion GPS header was stripped. Nelly Orr is a Russian linguist and former Russian history professor. The thumb drive was entered into evidence. So folks,

again, this strategy to get information into the FBI and launder where it actually came from. First, they're laundering the information through Steele that clearly some of this is logically from Simpson and Orr, not Steele. The Steele dossier should be called the Simpson-Orr dossier, but it can't be because it wouldn't be credible because they weren't credible sources. Secondly, launder the information from Nellie Orr, who's working for Fusion, to her husband Bruce, through the thumb drive,

but make sure you strip away the headers that this came from Fusion. Folks, this was an information laundering operation and they're trying to get Steele to shut his mouth because Steele's the one who knows about it. Finally, one takeaway, because I got a bunch of other stuff to get to today. It's an important show. Daily Caller Piece. Again, in the show notes.

Show notes are definitely worth your time. Subscribe to my email list at Bongino.com. I'll email you these stories every morning. It's very important, but they're also attached to the podcast. Daily Caller Piece by Chuck Ross, who's been doing yeoman's work on this. Bruce Ohr documents undercut FBI claims and Carter Page fizes. Again, another, you know, wooden, big axe to the redwood of this case tree is coming down, folks. the redwood of this case tree is coming down folks in the bruce or 302s bruce or acknowledges that there is a detailed ongoing relationship between him and steel and he shares at one point

this fact that steel may have had an ongoing relationship with the press well ladies and gentlemen that's a big problem because as we can see in the piece, if Bruce Orr was passing to the FBI that Steele had an ongoing relationship with the media, then that debunks a footnote in the FISA warrant. Here we go. Chuck Ross. And I quote, the FISA footnote also poses potential problems for Steele, given his contacts with numerous reporters and former British and U.S. government officials regarding the dossier. This is in the footnote in the FISA. Source one, talking about Steele, told the FBI that he only provided this information to the business associate and the FBI, reads the footnote, which does not cite a date for when Steele allegedly made the claim.

Goes on, not only did Steele brief reporters about the dossier, he also provided a copy to a John McCain associate, David Kramer. Kramer acknowledged he shared the dossier with BuzzFeed. And Kramer said in a court deposition that Steele encouraged him to speak to BuzzFeed's Ken Benzinger and CNN contributor Carl Bernstein. What's the problem? Broussard openly speculates, ladies and gentlemen, this interview with the FBI

and the 302s, that this relationship was ongoing, that Ohr and Steele met with report, that Steele, excuse me, met with reporters right around the time of the September Yahoo News report, and that he may have, quote,

met jointly with Simpson, with the reporter. Folks, why is that a problem? It's obvious. The footnote clearly says they didn't provide the information to anyone other than the business associate, Fusion, and the FBI.

Someone's lying. Again, this case is coming down and coming down fast, rapidly, and hard on the left. Their story, ladies and gentlemen, cannot possibly, possibly be true. He only spoke with us in Fusion. Actually, he spoke with the FBI and Bruce Oren already acknowledged he likely met with Yahoo about the article. Yahoo News and Isikoff.

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what accounts i follow because they block me like that clown at Media Matters, Bobby Lewis. He's supposed to be my stalker and he blocked me. How are you supposed to stalk me all the time? How do you block me? I thought that the guy had one job to stalk me, you know, but they blocked me. So I can't tell you which ones, but I know funny, right? But I follow these liberal accounts and this is where they're going again. They're going, oh, this is all about the militia. This was never meant to be an individual right. And I stood on this over the weekend. I thought, what is the easiest way to distill this down to a simple argument for the leftist that you can debunk this nonsense talking point? And I saw this piece by David Harsanyi in The Federalist, and it's very well done.

Again, it'll be in the show notes today. Please check it out. The Second Amendment, as the title, has always been an individual right. John Paul Stevens is still wrong about districting of Columbia versus Heller by David Harsanyi and the Federalists. Excellent, excellent piece.

A lot of legal wonkery in there, but worth your time. But the gist of it is this. Here's one of the takeaways from the piece I really enjoyed that's very important. Folks, I'm quoting from the piece. And he's quoting Judge Antonin Scalia. He says,

putting all these textual elements together, wrote Scalia, in his historical, philosophical, and legal exposition of the Second Amendment, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.

The meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the Second Amendment. Here's the money line, folks. We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment, like the First and the Fourth, codified a pre-existing right. David's a great writer. I'm going to make it a little simpler for you.

Joe, is the First Amendment your right to speech, your right to petition the government, your right to express your religion, your right to assemble? Is that a collective right, or is that a right that belongs to you, Joe Armacost? That belongs to Joe Armacost. Thank you, Joe.

You betcha. Your Fourth Amendment rights against search and seizure, legal search and seizure, is that a right granted to the collective or a right to Joee armacost baby it's all about me that's right me joe it's all about joey yeah it's all about joey yeah you got let's get to the meat and potatoes now all right so let's put the second amendment up first and make this real simple because we're just going to go to a simple language test okay so here's

the second amendment for liberals who can't read. A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, comma, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. All right. So the people who wrote the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, our wonderful founding fathers in this document, said the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed so they're talking about joe an individual right here yes how do we know that that they're not referring to a collective right because the exact same terminology is used in other portions

of the bill of rights the exact words to be exact and of course they're talking about individual rights exactly let's go to the first amendment because again liberals have a tough time doing things like reading and word comprehension congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of press or of the press or the highlight here notice where i put my finger down extra hard on the right you can see that on the island or the right of the people peaceably to assemble petition the government for a redress of grievances so the first amendment i had to highlight it for the libs watching the show uses the exact literally not figuratively right of the people words terminology in the first amendment

to refer to what is unquestionably an individual right you should say say oh okay well that was just a typo in the constitution well they didn't really have typewriters back then but whatevs libs let's go to the fourth amendment let's go to the videotape as warner wolf used to say here it is again highlighted for the libs the right of the people to be secure in their person's houses papers and effects against unregionable searches and seizures you know the rest shall not be violated ladies and gentlemen it's the exact same language why would the framers of our constitution and the authors of the bill of rights write about individual rights using the exact same terminology rights of the people to refer

to individual rights not collective rights of the militia and then use that exact same terminology in the second amendment but confuse everybody by using the same terminology then to refer to a collective right folks of course they wouldn't right you're being a dipstick by saying that and you know it and so did judge and uh judge scully antonin scalia who's since passed sadly of course it was an individual right if it's, just ask your liberal friends. If the right of the people codified in the second amendment refers to a collective right, is freedom of speech and against search and seizure a collective, not individual right? No, no.

Those are individual rights. It's the same language. I, I, listen, there are a thousand arguments reading through some of the historical documents surrounding the constitution and the drafting of thereof. It's clear they were referring to individual rights. It's clear they were referring to the militia as individual individual citizens armed who could then come out and act as a defense force for the United States. It's clear. Just read the documents. Liberals won't do any of that because they don't care.

This is a simple explanation. Is the First Amendment an individual right? Yes. Is the Fourth Amendment, is that about individual rights? Yes. Then how is the Second Amendment that uses the exact same language a collective right? Paula, does that make sense? I'm sorry, I have to go to my backup. I'm Bud's woman on the show because i just you know i know you get but i'm afraid this isn't hitting home strongly enough like with the libs they don't get basic things no no it's definitely a collective right the second yeah sure sure guys good good job well done again good solid legal analysis you know i i've never heard it put that way to tell you the truth i didn't know about that scalia ruling or writing yeah that's pretty cool it's not hard it's so simple yeah yeah and harsani so if you want a more detailed layered legal analysis with some of the historical background harsani's piece is

excellent it's definitely worth your time very cool dude i'm simply suggesting you just highlight just take out your constitution most of you carry a pocket constitution i actually have the app it's easier to carry on my phone. And just highlight, right, to the people. It's not hard, man. It's not hard. I'm telling you, I stewed all weekend on this. The Monday show for me, a little behind the scenes, folks,

is always the most stressful for me. Joe knows this because there's so much. We had Epstein dying this weekend. We had the Orr 302s break on Friday night. Oh, and by the way, thank you to everybody who watched me on Hannity on the 5 on Friday. The feedback was tremendous. I love you all to death. I mean that.

You make my day. Your feedback was so nice, and I really appreciate it. But Monday, all weekend, I wanted to cover this and these red flag laws. And I just, I'm like, what is the easiest way to say it? And that's it. Joe agrees. Thank you. All right, let's move on to these red flag laws. Matt Palumbo our resident fact checker at bongino.com wrote a terrific piece

short sweet to the point about why these red flag laws are a bad idea even the title short and sweet the problem with red flag laws by matt palumbo please read the piece up in the show notes today folks a couple takeaways from matt's Now, what are red flag laws? They're also known as gun violence restraining orders. They are restraining orders that are supposed to, according to what they tell you, the supporters, they're supposed to be legal restraining orders where people, if they think an individual is a danger to himself, others out there, that they can go in and take firearms from this person without charging them with a crime.

Folks, listen, on paper, that may sound great, but there are significant issues, due process issues, with going in and disarming people who have yet to commit a crime. Now, there are other issues addressed in Matt's piece regarding these red flag laws that he nails, and he hat tips Michelle Malkin, who pointed out this problem, too. issues addressed in Matt's piece regarding these red flag laws that he nails. And he had tips, Michelle Malkin, who pointed out this problem to folks. We've already seen things like this before red flag laws or similar preemptive ways,

Joe of putting people on watch lists and warning lists and red flag lists. And Michelle Malkin gives a great example, which Matt cites in the piece of the va the veterans affairs administration how a lot of our yeah listen folks what happens to our vets when they come back sometimes a disgrace the poor health care they get how some of them are are are demonized by people for speaking out about their own healthcare. And one of the examples Malkin cites, which again, Matt quotes in the piece, is how there is a, Joe, how Orwellian is this? There's apparently a disruptive behavior committee at the VA

where if you're going to a VA healthcare and you're a vet, you're the best of us, you come back, you've served, you're just looking to get your healthcare situation taken care of, that I guess if you open your mouth and complain about the, you know, sometimes crappy healthcare, you get these, they can put you on like a disruptive behavior list. And Matt talks about Michelle's piece where Michelle says, you're supposed to be able to get off that list,

like the petition to get off, and only something like a 29% of them, if you read the bottom of the piece, have been given or afforded the opportunity to pull their names off this list. Now, once you're put on that disruptive behavior list, what happens then? I mean, are you going to get EDP'd like we did an emotionally disturbed person? Danger to self-reliance? Is there going to be a commitment involved? What happens?

You have your firearms taken away? We've already seen a malfunction of the government bureaucracy with our vets you want to transplant a similar type model these warning lists disrupted behavior lists into the society at large another good point matt brings up these lists are temporary and whereas i have no doubt there are lots of people in the country who have problems and should not have firearms folks we, we have to respect due process. These are temporary. That's not a permanent fix. If you think someone is a danger to themselves or others, this needs to start in a home where family members can get these people some help. government to come in in complete violation of due process and preemptively take away your second amendment right without proving probable cause for an arrest or beyond a reasonable doubt for a conviction that you that you've uh committed any crime ladies and gentlemen this is very dangerous

stuff and i don't support it and i'm sorry i i you know i know a lot of you are supporters of the president i am too but this is a very bad idea and let me just say I know a lot of you are supporters of the president. I am too, but this is a very bad idea, and let me just say I got a lot of emails about this this weekend, a lot, a lot, like up there with the death penalty show, and I'm just saying to the administration, I know we have a voice, and I hope some people listen. I am telling you now you're going to lose a lot of support if you move forward with this.

People see this as an unjustified encroachment upon liberty and freedom and a violation of due process. And a lot of the folks out there do not want to be put on a list because they object to some government policy or they complain about medical, medical care at a VA. I'm just warning you. If anyone in the administration is listening, this is a really, really bad idea.

I hope you are. I have an interesting tweet also by Elizabeth Warren, which I saw this on Don Trump Jr.'s game. He's absolutely right. Elizabeth Warren tweeted this I saw this on Don Trump Jr.'s game. He's absolutely right. Elizabeth Warren tweeted this this weekend as well. This is while we're on the firearm topic and the Second Amendment. Folks, notice here, while I'm going to read this tweet, I want you to keep in mind in the background of this, right?

What's the liberal theory about high taxes? They don't affect business at all. Don't worry. People will pay them. It's not going to hurt business. Here's Elizabeth Warren, at all. Don't worry. People will pay them. It's not going to hurt business. Here's Elizabeth Warren at E Warren. Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers will reduce gun and ammunition sales and bring in new federal revenue that we can use for both gun violence prevention and enforcement of existing gun laws. Together, we can hold gun manufacturers accountable.

Hold on one second. I just want to read that opening line again. Increasing taxes on gun manufacturers will reduce gun and ammunition sales. Whoa! Whoa, time out! Time out. Here we go. Oh, there's a flag on the field! Laundry on the field! There's laundry on the field, folks.

What is holding it? Holding 10 yards. Elizabeth Warren. Replay first down. Her and Bernie Sanders, Joe, have they not been lecturing us how taxes have no impact on the economy? They are not going to hurt business. Taxes are not going to stop commerce. It's not going to stop consumption.

Raising the prices of products through government taxes, raising the price of your work by forcing higher income taxes on you to work longer for the same amount of money. That's what income taxes do. It's not going to affect work. It's not going to affect consumption. None of this is going to make a difference. They've been lecturing us since the Barack Obama years about how stupid it is, the idea that taxes impact commerce. But what's their solution?

We need to tax gun manufacturers because that'll definitely impact gun sales and commerce. You get how they step on their arm all the time? They can't get out of their own way. They have completely contradictory, phony, fraudulent messages all the time. These people are complete frauds. Anytime now. Remember that tweet.

Screenshot it. Take it off the YouTube, go to Elizabeth Warren's account, put it on your phone. The next time your liberal friends tell you high taxes don't make a difference and don't affect consumption, the economy or growth, just show them that tweet. But what it only, let me get this straight. It only affects guns. It only affects the gun and ammunition, but every other business is immune. Oh, okay. All right. I mean, does that make any sense? Yes. That makes perfect sense.

There you go. Perfect sense. Ruling. False. Fraudulent. I love this. This is my favorite new tool. Paula, who gave us this?

Do you remember this guy's name? This is the gavel. Mike, was it Mike? Mike, email us if you got it, because I want to give you a hat tip. This is our favorite new tool. Ruling in the Bongino car. False. 10 years for feloniousuling in the Bongino Corps. False. 10 years for felonious mopry in the umpteenth degree.

The gavel. Every show needs a gavel, right? We could do that on this show. One of my doctor friends emailed me this weekend and said he loves the freewheeling nature of the show. So do I. That's why it's my favorite thing to do. Why?

What is it? Jane? Like with an N? Okay, Jane. Thank you, Jane. This will be forever referred to as Jane's gavel. Ruling? We love Jane.

Nice. Jane is definitely not Mike. Okay. Last story of the day, but a good one. Again, on this liberal like to tie storylines together here liberal hypocrisy at its finest yeah i appeared on fox and friends this morning my regular monday morning appearance i always encourage you to watch it because i love fox and friends and they let me they let me talk a lot they're really long

appearances different shows have different you know for those of you who look behind the scenes about Fox, different shows are a different kind of dynamics. SOPs, Joe knows as he was in radio a long time. Yeah, you know,

yeah, exactly. Some shows I do debates. Some shows you have to be short and quick because there's just a lot of guests. Fox and Friends on Monday, I get to kind of

just go and roll. So they had me on this morning about Bernie Sanders and this ridiculous Bernie Sanders tweet, which I mean, saying that is kind of funny because every one of his tweets are ridiculous. But Bernie, who's the biggest fraud out there, tweeted this weekend something about Donald Trump and climate change.

He says, Donald Trump believes climate change is a hoax. Donald Trump is an idiot. So I just lit Bernie up this morning on Fox and Friends. Donald Trump is an idiot. Keep in mind, this is the same. I even got to do my Bernie impression on Fox. Donald Trump is an idiot. Keep in mind, this is the same. I even got to do my Bernie impression on Fox and Friends. Donald Trump is an idiot. Donald Trump believes climate change is a hoax.

He is an idiot. And I said, wait, Donald Trump's an idiot? Bernie Sanders thinks Donald Trump's an idiot. This is a guy who believes in the money fairy. This is the guy who wants to spend $30 trillion, more than we owe entirely for our national debt now over the next 10 years, on a money fairy-like government-run care system he thinks is going to manage your health

care better than you this is the same guy who tells you he believes in climate change flies around on private jets eating foie gras and and and what was it rib loins what the hell was it remember that and what was that remember that show-encrusted purloins or whatever the heck that was? Remember that show went crazy? This is the biggest fraud out there. This is, I don't like millionaires and billionaires. I can't stand them. Now, all of a sudden, he amended that.

Now, he's, I don't like billionaires. You notice why he doesn't talk about millionaires anymore? Because he's a millionaire. He's a total fraud. Martha McCallum asked him during a debate i think i'll be on her show tonight um asked him during a town hall excuse me with it on fox you know bernie you don't like the trump tax cuts right yeah i'm paraphrasing the question obviously yeah they're terrible but you pay the trump tax rates that are

lower right of course i pay them you'd be an idiot to pay higher tax. Thank you, Bernie. You're absolutely right. We'd all be idiots. This guy's the biggest fraud. Folks, this guy bothers me for a number of reasons. Listen, he's not going to win. I'm out of the predictions game, but let me say this. It's highly likely he's not going to win the nomination. He's going down in the polls.

Elizabeth Warren, who's just as bad, obviously, is creeping up. But it bothers me because this guy, I think I already told you this story, but it's worth readdressing. This friend of mine in the gym is a really smart guy. I run into him in the gym, super smart, follows politics. You know, not as intently as Joe and I and Paula do, but he heard Bernie on Joe Rogan's show, which is the most popular podcast around. And he said, well, a lot of what Bernie said sounds reasonable.

I'm not kidding, folks. Like like my heart was ripped out of me and you understand like that's the game socialists play of course it sounds rich folks there's nothing unreasonable about saying hey you know middle class people should earn more money people work hard the rich have a lot of money they do have a lot of money working class people do work hard and you know i wish they had some of the money that wealthy folks have but folks the world is not a fair place the business world cares about people who add value middle class workers add value but so do people who are wealthy too and sometimes people in the middle class become rich sometimes people who are wealthy too. And sometimes people in the middle class become rich. Sometimes people who are rich,

who stop adding value, become very poor. You need me to name the stories of people who've gone bankrupt? Over and over. Sometimes middle class people become poor. Sometimes those circumstances are not fair. Sometimes they're fired for terrible reasons. Sometimes companies make bad decisions.

Sometimes they're fired for the right reasons. But they lie to you and they paint this Pollyannish view of the world. We need to help the poor people become rich. Thanks, Bernie. Of course I may. How? We need socialism. Well, here's a story

from the Wall Street Journal this weekend where they actually practice socialism. So what Bernie's saying, again, makes sense. It's Bernie's prescriptions that are wrong. Here's the title of the piece by Mary Anastasia O'Grady who writes about South and Central America a lot. Venezuela grows more unequal. The haves find ways to provide basic services.

The have-nots suffer intensely. I'm going to get to a portion of this piece in a second because it's important. It's worth your time. But now, keep in mind, I'm not suggesting what Bernie's saying doesn't make sense. Of course I want middle-class working people to be wealthy. I want the wealthy to be wealthier.

I want the poor to be middle-class and rich one day. It's how you get there that matters. Any idiot can go on a podcast and say, we need the poor to get rich. Oh, gee, thanks, dude. Brilliant. Bernie thinks socialism is the path to get there, where the government controls the means of production, everything. The government owns you and your business and everything about you. And he thinks that's the way to make the poor richer.

It's actually a way to make the poor poorer and to make the connected more connected. In this piece, I'm going to get this snippet, but there's another part in it. She talks about how Venezuela, there's no power. The power goes out all the time because socialists ran the power grid into the ground because government workers don't know anything about how to run a power company barely know how to do government work so she talks about how the connected with money in venezuela the connected few have gotten together and bought generators for their communities joe so their power is on 24 hours a day yet the poor that the the socialists were supposed to be protecting have no such. They starve because their food goes bad.

And she also writes in a piece. This is a portion of the piece I was concerned about. Because again Bernie thinks he's helping the poor. She says well to do Venezuelans with access to dollars. That's US dollars. They're trying to keep out of Venezuela by the way. Including regime insiders. Can overcome shortages.

For those who can't. I.e. the poor. Life has become primitive thus as to cal it's a newspaper entity reported the gap in living standards between the haves and the have-nots is wider than ever i thought socialism was supposed to shrink that guy we need to make the poor rich it's wider here here here it is here there's always a gap there's always going to be people who are poor middle middle class, and wealthy. Always. There is no perfect society on earth. This is called the utopia fallacy.

When socialists compare the United States to utopia, it doesn't exist. We need more equality. Okay, great. Every country's unequal. The question is, what degree of inequality do we have here? You look at socialist countries, you have the poor with no access to US dollars having to use worthless Venezuelan bolivars showing up with a wheelbarrow of cash to buy a loaf of bread. No. The wealthy in Venezuela connected to the regime,

they get dollars. They can go to the store and buy whatever they want. It's a scam, folks. It's a scam. I say to my buddy, this is my show, you know I love you to death. I'm not going to name him, of course. But my gosh, listen to not what he's saying, but how he prescribes the solutions to get there.

It's what his fixes are that matters, not what he's saying. They're all scammers. Besides, they just showed you with Warren and Sanders, whatever they say is usually hypocritical anyway. I hate the Trump tax cuts, Barney. You pay the Trump tax rates, you fraud. Elizabeth Warren, taxes ain't going to hurt business. Let's hurt business by taxing guns. I don't get it.

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