The Dan Bongino Show - What Are They Trying To Distract Us From? | Episode 63

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

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Everybody, welcome to Vince. Great to have you back with us here on a Thursday. Holy crap, I've got so much going on for you. I've got some updates on our guests, who all of our excellent interviews are going to be coming up on the show. And also, some justice has been served in a lot of really big ways, including one of the best form tackles

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apply. Let's do this. All right, a couple of quick programming notes as we start the show today. One, I was expecting to have an interview today with the acting ICE director, Todd Lyons. I was obviously teasing that for you yesterday. And that, well, that's not happening today. Todd Lyons will not be here. They got in touch with us late last night to say that he is now unable to do it so they had some sort of conflict

and we are working on making that interview tomorrow, Friday. So we should have the Acting Ice Director in on this program on Friday. Now having said that I have a great guest joining us today. We've got Ned Ryan from American Majority. He's back on the program. I've got to talk to him about a couple of things. One is rescissions. The House supposed to vote today, Thursday, on that final rescissions package. That's just 9 billion measly little dollars

that I'm asking them to cut. That's all we're asking, right? PBS, NPR, USAID. Get them out of here. $9 billion. This is such a simple task. The House set to allegedly vote on this today. Some of you may have seen the House took sort of a procedural vote yesterday. It was being mistaken, including by yours truly for a few minutes,

as the official vote. It wasn't the final vote. It was a rule vote that took place yesterday in the House. And so today they're expecting that final vote to cut $ final vote. It was a rule vote that took place yesterday in the House. And so today they're expecting that final vote to cut $9 billion. Okay, so there's that. Ned Ryan's gonna join us, he's great on that. He's also great on the invasion of our country. He hates that just like the rest of us.

And he's got some really smart insights on that too. So we'll talk to him coming up about that. Another thing here about guests on this program. So yesterday, as you likely know by now, we had Senator Rand Paul on the program and Senator Paul was trying to mount a defense for his position that he's opposed to the big, beautiful bill.

And listening to Senator Paul talk yesterday, he was taking things very personally. He was suggesting that the White House is leading these personal attacks on him and that they're paying people to attack him online. And I don't, by the way, I haven't seen any evidence for that, that people are being paid to attack Senator Rand Paul.

I think people disagree with them and they're saying that out loud. If there is evidence that it's a paid campaign, I'd love to see it, but I haven't seen it. But he's anyway, he's taking all of this very personally. And yesterday, after our interview, Senator Paul was outside of the Congress talking to reporters, and he claimed that he was

disinvited from the White House picnic yesterday. And he doesn't know who did it, but somebody disinvited him at the White House from the White House picnic. Um, okay. Well, let's take a look here. Here's cut six. Rand Paul says he lost his invitation. He's not allowed to go anymore. Someone has told us the White House called them from the White House

and offered them money to attack me online. So we have that and now we're uninvited to the picnic. And it's like, I don't know, it's just incredibly petty and it shows it. Look, I'm arguing. Yeah, he says, they've disinvited me from the White House. I don't know who did it. It's very petty. They uninvited me from the picnic.

Now we have an update on this story this morning. Say again, Justin. Justin's talking to me. It's my fault. It's not my fault. How is it my fault? I didn't do anything. All I did was ask questions.

I didn't get the guy disinvited from the White House picnic. I think I saw some people in the chat think that that may have been the reason that that went down. I have no idea why he was disinvited from the White House picnic, but I have good news for Senator Rand Paul today. Stand by here. I'm gonna share this on our screen. Here it is, boys.

President Trump has just posted a truth social this morning, the following, of course, Senator Rand Paul and his beautiful wife and family are invited to the big White House party tonight. He's the toughest vote in the history of the United States Senate. But why wouldn't he be invited? Because besides, he writes, it gives me more time to get his vote on the great, big, beautiful

bill, one of the greatest and most important pieces of legislation ever put before our senators and congressmen and women. It will help to make America great again. I look forward to seeing Rand. The party will be great. I don't I don't know what the sequence of events here was. I don't I maybe this is all just one big negotiating tactic on the part of the White House, like have some lower level aid revoke his invitation and the president comes swooping in. He seems very magnanimous. He's like, No, no, no, I

want Senator Paul there. I want his beautiful wife at the White House. Come on in for the picnic. Look, I'm looking out for you, Rand, I want to make sure that there's a hot dog with your name on it, buddy. I'm looking out for you. So the president of the United States gets Rand Paul in the house, and we'll see if he changes his mind. I don't, again, we'll see.

I don't anticipate Senator Paul changing his mind. How about you, Chad? It sounded yesterday like he was pretty dialed in on, I'm a no vote on this. In fact, yesterday he made it pretty clear that he thinks his vote is garbage time. You know, it's just extra pointless. So he's just gonna take a stand against this bill

because he doesn't like the debt ceiling hike that's within it. Okay. But, and also that Republicans are going to have enough votes to get this thing through. But here's the thing I kept thinking about after that interview, even during obviously during the interview, I asked him about this. Well, hold on a second. So is your position that the debt ceiling is going to be hiked no matter what Rand Paul does? Yeah, it is. It's going to be hiked no matter what Rand Paul does.

no matter what Rand Paul does? Yeah, it is. It's gonna be hiked no matter what Rand Paul does. Okay, so you want Chuck Schumer to have leverage over the debt ceiling conversation? You want a 60 vote threshold to pass a debt ceiling? Meaning the Democrats are gonna get to make that bill substantially worse when the debt ceiling is raised? Yeah, I'm not seeing it.

The math ain't mathin', as the kids say. That's not gonna work for me. This is a tactical error on his part. A tactical error on his part. And I looked, even in advance of the interview, I looked back at history, I was like, did Rand Paul ever vote for a debt stealing hike? And to his credit, he's been principled on this.

He's been totally consistent on this. He didn't vote for debt stealing hikes, okay. But if there's ever a time to his credit, he's been principled on this. He's been totally consistent on this. He didn't vote for debt ceiling hikes. Okay. But if there's ever a time to do it, it's now, don't give Chuck Schumer a weapon. And at the moment, Rand Paul seems on the verge of handing him one, if Rand Paul were to get his way. But again, he thinks his vote at this point

is gonna be meaningless. So we'll see, the president inviting him to the picnic, we'll see if Rand even takes President Trump up on it. He sounded grumpy yesterday that he was disinvited. So presumably he wants the picnic. Maybe they were planning their whole week's dinner schedule around whether or not they're going to have hot dogs at the White House.

You know, you got a budget for a family, including in Congress. And so Rand Paul hit it off to the White House picnic, maybe. And if he gets there, President Trump's going to try and convince him to support the big, bill that's right are you doing how you doing how you doing just amazing stuff just amazing stuff DM facts tells me in the chat Vince was being really dense with Senator Paul yesterday tell me how I was dense in fact the reality is I was being very generous with him I was just letting him answer the question straightforward I didn't I wasn't trying to be combative.

I just wanted really clear answers on why he's opposed. And so happy to have the Senator on, happy to talk about these things. Okay, so we'll get to more of this coming up on the program. I've got a couple of other big pieces to get to with you today. ICE has been rounding up a ton of sadistic criminals, a ton of dangerous, dangerous criminals.

And I love this. This is exactly what I voted for. I'm happy about this. There's a brand new list of illegals that ICE has rounded up in Los Angeles. And it includes a bunch of people, including murderers, pedophiles and drug traffickers. DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin reporting on this

and saying, this is crazy that Governor Gavin Newsom in California, Mayor Karen Bass in LA, they're continuing to prioritize these criminal illegals over their own citizens, which is madness. Among the illegals who are arrested Monday and Tuesday There was a guy called Gerardo Antonio Palacios a Mexican national convicted of homicide and burglary We got murderers running the streets of LA illegal aliens What are they even doing out in public? They're they're murderers. So we're getting rid of those guys

They can go mob Klebb is a Cambodian national who was convicted of lewd action with a child, battery, and possession of a controlled substance. Again, rounded up by DHS, by ICE, getting ejected from the country. Sang Longprasert is a Laotian national convicted for lewd or lascivious acts with a child under the age of 14. This is a pedophile we're talking about. And Antonio Benitez-Ugarte, a Mexican national convicted of drug trafficking, also arrested by deportation officers. We got Alberto Morales Mejia, a Mexican man who was convicted of manufacturing amphetamine. This is a drug dealer. Raul Taranguillen, another Mexican national, previously arrested for human smuggling and

money laundering. So the list keeps going. I'm not going to go through the whole list. We've got this massive, massive list of dangerous, violent illegals who are being rounded up and ejected from the country. And I'm here to tell you that the reason that the left, that lefties, just sort of your like, you know, dime a dozen lefties who are out there all over the country don't understand any of this

is because they have no idea who's even being arrested. They think that there's just, you know, like it's like a save the Children ad or something where you have like illegals are raiding and just ruining the lives of all these innocent babies and it's the whole thing is just ridiculous. That's not what's going on. What's going on here is they're rounding up some very bad people and they're getting them out of our country. Now again, I'll further stipulate as I do every time, I want every illegal out of the country. I don't, I'm not here to worry about the sob stories or anything like that The sob story is what's happened to the United States of America. We've been invaded. We've got to restore

Sovereignty, which is of course the point I was making with Senator Paul yesterday We got to restore sovereignty to our country. So get them all out 3,000 a day is what they want to target for a minimum. And I want them to go a lot further than that because at 3,000 a day, that's about a million a year. We've got over 20 million who just came in under Joe Biden. Unsustainable, unsustainable. So get them out. So we've got some good updates there on what's going on

with some of these dangerous illegals being taken out of the country. We also have some more updates on what the heck is even going on with these LA riots. An illegal alien was just slapped with murder charges for attacking a police officer. We have here, let me see fellas if we have the actual clip of this, because, oh here we go. Yeah, this is cut four. This is an illegal alien who was accused of attempted murder for throwing a Molotov cocktail

at law enforcement. Let's pull up the cut four video here. Just take a look at the suspect. The suspect, you can see right by his feet, the Molotov cocktail, he's wearing a black hood, black mask. This is video released by DHS. He puts a lighter up in the air. So you obviously, he's wearing a black hood, black mask. This is video released by DHS. He puts a lighter up in the air.

So you obviously he's got all the implements to conduct this attack. And at one point you saw him, you see him walk towards where the police are. And authorities are saying that this guy is actually named Emiliano Garduno Galvez. He's a criminal illegal from Mexico who threatened the lives of federal law enforcement officers.

He attacked them with a Molotov cocktail during the riots in Los Angeles. ICE has arrested him and he's now being charged with attempted murder for that. Well, that stands to reason. If you throw a Molotov cocktail at law enforcement or anybody for that matter, it should be safely concluded

you were attempting to kill them. These are the types of criminal illegals that rioters are fighting to protect, said the assistant secretary of DHS, that's Trisha McLaughlin. You've seen her here on this program. She's great. The Los Angeles rioters will not stop us or slow us down.

And if you lay a hand on a law enforcement officer, you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. So there you go. You've got an attempted murder on the part of one of these guys that these illegals who are fighting back against ICE officers who are just trying to do their jobs, just trying to get these guys out of the country. The effort to get control of these out of control people, these out of control invaders continues here.

The lefties are freaking out about a video. Let me show you, cut five here. This is a video of Los Angeles, California. This is Boyle Heights in LA, where police officers box in this vehicle and then they make an arrest of the occupants of the car. Now lefties are sharing this right now as some sort of awful incident. Look how dangerous and tyrannical and fascistic all of this is. In fact there's a guy on on X by the name of Brian

Krasenstein, he's a full blown left winger, and he shared this video and he said, "'Breaking moments ago in Boyle Heights, California, "'two federal immigration vehicles "'rammed into a white sedan carrying three individuals. "'Agents then appeared to fire a chemical agent "'into the car before detaining the driver. "'A woman in the vehicle, sounding visibly shaken,

insisted that all of the occupants are American citizens. Protesters are beginning to surround the area now. This response seems wildly excessive. Now, that ex post, and it's probably going wild on Blue Sky too, Blue Sky, that ex post is getting a ton of traction right now. 7.6 million views on that lefty thing. 14,000 reposts.

Everybody's sharing it like there's some sort of a grotesque violation going on here by going after this guy, but there's not, there's not. So here's the truth of what's actually going on in that sequence, in that scene. According to the Department of Homeland Security, what really was going on was this was a targeted arrest of a violent rioter, a targeted arrest of a violent rioter

who punched a Customs and Border Protection officer. That's what that video is. Again, someone else who assaulted law enforcement. Homeland Security Investigations tried to arrest this guy, Christian Damian Cerno Camacho for the assault and he attempted to flee. He was ultimately caught. He was arrested and taken into custody.

And Homeland security is pointing out, and this is what I'll talk about when ICE director Todd Lyons comes on, that their officers are now facing a 413% increase in assaults against them, rooted on by the top Democrats in the country who are saying that ICE agents are the Nazis. ICE agents are Gestapo. That's what people like Hakeem Jeffries and Daniel Goldman and Michelle Wu and Tampon Tim Walls have all been saying out loud in public. And so you've

got people who are attacking ICE officers at the invitation of top Democrats. And that has led to a 413% increase in assaults. You didn't hear threats, assaults against ICE officials. They're putting their lives on the line as they try to arrest these murderers, rapists and gang members. That's what they're doing. So that's, again, this is once again a totally justified law enforcement action being spun out of control by the left Pretending like there's something vile going on

So in case you're wondering what the receipts are there they are in case you want to what the truth is there it is That's the truth. That's the truth and that brings me to one of our favorite videos of the day one of my absolute favorite videos a civilian watching as one of these violent rioters attacks law enforcement and the civilian, this good samaritan steps up and gives an NFL form tackle. I've got that in just a moment. I can't wait to show you that. It's going to be great. Hey, let me tell you about our sponsors. Blackout Coffee is a great sponsor of this program. You know I don't just slap my

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with the logo of the show on it, which we never had before, so now we do. And I like to drink my coffee, my blackout at those bad boys, that's pretty nice. Okay, so now we get to, again, my favorite video of the day. A civilian form tackle on a rioter in LA. This is really, really awesome.

Take a look here, cut to at right after this rioter throws a water bottle, uses it as a projectile, throws it directly into a law enforcement officer, assaulting him, this civilian steps in, watch. Holy cow, look at that form look I I'm telling you first of all he's got everything right Listen for the boys who are out there watching if you're a football player Everything right about this

He leads with that shoulder. He keeps his head up during this tackle. He wraps tight. He lifts the man off of the ground and then he plants his shoulder into him and then drives him into the ground. Just an absolute perfect form tackle here on an LA Ryder who definitely deserved it.

Did you notice that the Ryder in the video is wearing the traditional, the old school, like iPhone earbuds with the wires, not the wireless ones with the wires on it. Those earbuds absolutely exploding out of his ears as his head hits the ground, hits the deck. Just amazing work and honestly, I'm jealous. I'm jealous of the tackle here

and grateful for that great American. This is like, you remember when the frat bros protected the American flag from all of the pro-Hamas crazy people? This guy, American patriot. We should figure out who he is. We should throw this guy a rager, you know? Have him stop by the White House,

get some sort of presidential medal. I love, boom, holy cow, I just- that's a great tackle. That's a great tackle. I love that. Somebody said a gun was dropped? Was there a gun? Did I see the- no I didn't see the gun. There's a gun in the video? Show me. Someone- is it possible, fellas? Justin, did you see a gun in this video? I didn't realize that there was a gun here. I'm gonna have to watch this video over again very slowly. Let's take a look at it. I've watched it a bunch of, oh, that does,

holy cow, so, so the guy who threw the bottle, are we sure that's a gun? It kinda has a gun shape in the video footage I'm looking at. But assuming it is, let's just for a moment assume it's a gun. This, all the better. This guy has solved all sorts of problems all at once

taking down this violent rioter. So wonderful, wonderful stuff. I played football in high school at the, on the Marine base that I graduated from. And I played starting defensive end. I loved playing defensive end But I will admit that I never had a form tackle that was that good. I just I did it I had some good tackle. I had some good sacks, but not that that was a dream tackle

That's the kind of tackle that you brag about for the rest of your life And that guy really should that was great All right, love love that love that and I do hope that he stopped the guy if he had a gun too, that he stopped that. That's pretty amazing. Some people think it's keys. Yeah, it could be, but whatever. Either way, that guy deserved it. And I like how the cops, the line instantly,

they jumped all over that guy. They jumped all over the bad guy and they arrested him. So that was wonderful. Love seeing that. Okay. Now, the lefties, the lefty mayors who are running these cities are getting absolutely crazier by the day.

Absolutely crazier by the day. Let me start with the LA mayor, Karen Bass. This is really good. The LA mayor, she gave a press conference yesterday where she said that all of this violence you're seeing, so again, let's just take it off, right? The burning of the Waymos, the burning of the Hyundai in the middle of the intersection,

the attacks on cops, the looting of the Adidas store, the looting of the Apple store, the looting of the CVS, the utter chaos in the streets of Los Angeles. Whose fault is this, according to Karen Bass? Oh, you know the answer to this. It's Trump's fault. Trump did that. It's Trump's fault that people were looting

the Adidas store. Take a look at Karen Bass. Here she is, cut three, making excuses once again. A week ago, everything was peaceful in the city of Los Angeles and in all of the representatives behind me in their cities as well. Things began to be difficult on Friday when raids took place and it's important that I begin there because that is the cause of the

problems that have happened in the city of Los Angeles and other cities. This was provoked by the White House. The reason why, we don't know. Karen Bass is out of control. She's completely out of control. So she blames Trump for all of this? It's Trump's fault. It's Trump's fault. None of this would have happened

if law enforcement didn't do their jobs. Do you hear her? That the raids on Friday, and again, to remind you, Tom Holman has been explicit about this. Why were they raiding on Friday? Why were they raiding? The answer to that is because

they were going after cartel activity. They were serving criminal warrants in Los Angeles on Friday. They made a hundred arrests as a result of all of that. And Karen Bass is angry that they were enforcing the law. So she said, it's Trump's fault, it's Trump's fault. They began the raids and so they deserve the violence. What kind of demented public official roots on

the people who are destroying your community just because cops are doing their jobs? Oh, that's right. Karen Bass and the Democrats who run California. That's what they do. That's what they do. And she's not alone here. Before we barrel forward,

I should make sure that all of our tech issues are resolved because we do have a guest coming up. Let's start with Justin. Can you talk to me? Can I hear from you, brother? There you are. Okay, I hear you now. Okay, good. Let's... let...

Okay, that's... that's... that's a relief. Were you sweating it, Justin? Jus... Okay. All right, Justin tells me I was on the whole time, and he was freaking out. Okay, good. All right, good. You were freaking out, I was freaking out, we were all freaking out. Everybody was freaking out.

Um, I've got, uh, one more for you, uh, before we, uh, thank. All right, good. You were freaking out, I was freaking out, we were all freaking out, everybody was freaking out. I've got one more for you before we thank our next sponsor and we get to our great guest. I do have the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, who is, he has, can I, is this really still true? He has a 6% approval rating? How do you have a 6% approval rating and you're the mayor of a major American city?

How did you even get elected in the first place? Is this not at least suggestive evidence that Chicago's elections are explicitly rigged? How do you have a 6% approval rating? Brandon Johnson does. Here's Brandon Johnson cut seven, talking about ICE doing its job and he says, yeah, that's basically the Confederacy. That's who ICE is. They're the Confederacy.

They are absolutely terrified. And that's, look, I remember a few standups ago when I talked about what terrorism looks like. This is it. There should be no question to what our country would look like had the Confederacy won. We're seeing it on full display. It's just, it's mind-bogglingly stupid. Everything about that analysis is just mind-bogglingly stupid. This is terrorism? No, I would say if you want to classify something as terrorism, No, I would say if you want to classify something as terrorism, I would say illegal aliens killing American citizens and then waving flags for foreign countries, that's terrorism. That's what terrorism is. Illegal aliens raping women and girls here in the United States, that's terror.

We don't want that in our country. Illegal aliens invading our country and staying here in violation of every single law you could possibly imagine, that shouldn't be happening. And for people to say that the law needs to be upheld and they need to be objected and then be called terrorists for doing that, you're disgusting.

And it's no wonder you have a 6% approval rating. So those are the mayors of once great American cities who are doing their best to absolutely drive those things into the ground because who are, because they're serving their masters. You know who they're serving? They're serving the radical left. They're serving the radical left.

In California, Gavin Newsom, there's a great report on this. Jed McFadder is an excellent reporter. He works with Susan Crabtree. They just wrote that great book together, a fulls gold about California. Jed McFadder has an amazing thread on X today. I shared it on my X account, you can find it there, about how Gavin Newsom has been backing the rioters,

which all got started this past week because it was whipped into a frenzy by a group called CHRLA. CHRLA is the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights LA. CHRLA. CHRLA has received $35 million from California taxpayers. Additionally, they've received at least half a million dollars from federal taxpayers. They have turned around and they've received at least half a million dollars from federal taxpayers.

They have turned around and they've incited all of these riots. And Gavin Newsom has taken money from this group back during the 2021 recall. Gavin Newsom's defense efforts were being funded in part by Chirla. So this is all all scheme. This is all this is the left is working against you for a bunch of reasons. Some of them are explicitly actually all of them are explicitly corrupt. The money that's flowing into Gavin Newsom, he's bought and paid for. And of course, Karen Bass is by extension, of course, you know, Brandon Johnson is as well. They're bought and paid

for these guys. The other pieces, they're defensive of illegal immigration into the country. They cover it up because they know they stand to gain an electoral benefit out of it. Meaning either the chaos hurts Trump, which is what they want, or and or they get the strength of the Electoral College and the strength of unearned congressional seats just by counting the bodies that are in California, the illegal aliens. So everything about this is a corrupt incentive, and this is why the left is rooting against you.

It's why they're rooting against peace, and it's why they're rooting for chaos. And it's gotta stop. It's gotta stop. A great report here from Jed McFadden. Again, you can find that on my ex account. Coming up, I've got the great Ned Ryan from American Majority. I wanna talk about the state of our country right now

and getting all of these illegals out and how important that is to restoring our sovereignty. We'll also talk about cutting spending. It actually is possible to do both. I know that Senator Rand Paul seemed to suggest to me yesterday, you really only get one option. I don't feel like that at all. I feel like we have to do both.

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Ned, good to have you back with us, sir. Yeah, good to be with you, Vince. Always good to chat. All right, so let's start immigration, invasion, rioting, what's going on right now. The left, I was just describing that the left has all of these perverse incentives to continue to encourage this destruction.

And which means it's kind of up to the rest of us, it's up to the president to do destruction and it just which means it's kind of up to the rest of us is up to the president to do something about it don't you think? 100% I think yesterday got me to a point of complete frustration over some of the I would argue propaganda that was being pushed up I say David Ignatius of the Washington Post you know Democrats ignored border politics, somebody else wrote that they blundered on the border. No, they didn't. They didn't ignore border politics. They were hoping we ignored it. They were hoping that the American people weren't

paying attention to what they were actually doing in facilitating a systematic invasion of this country, especially over the last four years. And I say that very specifically, Vint, because go back to the first year of Biden's administration. In that first year alone, there were almost 300 executive actions by Biden that essentially annihilated border security, that lower deportations, did a whole host of things to really lower the barrier of entry for illegal immigrants, illegal aliens. As they were doing that with say their left hand, the Biden administration decided that with their right hand, they would shovel billions of taxpayer dollars

into these religious NGOs to incentivize them to actually do resettlement of migrants in this country. I mean, Catholic Charities USA in 2021 alone got 1.4 billion. There were other charities when you combine them that were getting multiple billions. And so they were lowering the barrier of entry the Biden administration was as they were incentivizing

an increase in this illegal alien invasion. And you were talking about chaos in one of your previous segments here. And I just wanna say that again, none of this is a mistake. None of this is by chance. It was all systematic. We're seeing the full extent of it now in LA. I think we're going to see it in other parts of the country as well. But I truly believe Vince, obviously there are powers that be inside of the previous administration that hate this country. They truly do. And I think they were kind of executing a clowered pivots strategy,

in which if you wanna bring about massive change to society, you have to create chaos, and you have to collapse certain cultural institutions and the economics of it. Think about what is taking place when you have a unenforced open border and mass illegal immigration with open welfare systems, that is a recipe for absolute economic disaster

for a country. And people are like, well, why did they do this? You're alluding to political power. 100% that was part of it and is part of it. I mean, look at the 2030 census, even without some of these numbers being cleaned out, Republicans stand to gain about 13 electoral votes and primarily the Sun Belt, roughly,

and California is gonna lose seats, we'll pick up again 13 House seats because of this. That's with what I consider flawed numbers. So the reason they are fighting this so hard, the left is, because if you actually clean out the census numbers by 2030, do you add maybe another 10 or 12 seats to those 13? I mean, this could be a seismic shift in American politics. And Democrats realize if we don't fight this,

we're going to have a really hard time regaining political power. And God forbid they actually should, because all of this that we are seeing in the streets of LA was deeply intentional not only of hatred for the American people, but also for political power. So I think you're right. I think oftentimes on the right, we've made the mistake of trying to choose one explanation

for this. And the reality is there's sort of an all of the above approach to understanding this. You have the neo-Marxists, you have the people who think that this country shouldn't exist and wanna destroy it. You've got the clower piv and chaos push going on. You've got people like Gavin Newsom who are paid to turn a blind eye to this, who rely on these institutions for political support. You have people who are looking to pad the numbers

for the American left and the electoral college and the congressional districts. There is clearly an all of the above explanation here. And I want to dwell on a point you just made a moment ago, because I feel like it can't be emphasized enough. The left has no other principle than power. There's no other principle that's undergirding their approach to politics, which is why for years they can tell us that demand rather, the separation of church and state, there's

no way those two things can be intertwined and then once they're in power turn around and pay off religious organizations to traffic human beings into the United States using your stolen money. Yeah you couldn't have said it better Vince and I also want to dismiss that idea that somehow there's a separation of religious beliefs and politics we're all people of faith everybody is right there's a separation of religious beliefs and politics. We're all people of faith. Everybody is, right? There's no perfect human knowledge set based off finite thinking and a finite mind that has all of the solutions and answers to every aspect of life. It's just not. I mean, if you were to think through that, so at a certain point, there's an element of faith in every last human being. And we all have a set of presuppositions and biases

by which we view the world around us and make choices as to what is right or wrong. Mine is obviously based on a transcendent creator, immortal soul, all these things. But even the left has a faith system. They have a series of presuppositions and biases based off an element of faith by which they actually make their decisions. So when they look at us and go, oh no, we believe in scientism. We're not people of faith. No, you're not. You're people of faith as well. And so certain faith system is going to win out

in the public arena. So I really am strongly reacting to this whole idea that somehow you're just based on faith and we're based on science. No, we're all people of faith and someone's worldview is going to win out and it better be ours Well, they have religious garb too that they wear yeah

They wear t-shirts that say abolish ice. They've got the they've got the kovat masks. They have the pride flags they have the purple hair dye each of these are all components of Religiosity expressed and as if it's like a part of like a normal political debate. Yeah, no, 100%. There is a religious creed for the left. I mean, politics is their religion. I mean, we can go off on this for a long time. I just want to make this point. Politics is the religion of the left. Their holy of holies is the administrative state and power by which they want to have that power to then be able to dictate to the dirty little peasants what's best for them. But the problem has been the dirty little peasants, the American people have been resisting progress. And I think that's also another element of what we're seeing take place with this illegal alien invasion. Well, if you dirty little peasants don't know what's best

for you, we're just simply going to have to replace you to create wards of the state that will do whatever we want, give us political power, and then we'll be able to shape society into what we actually want in the future. So, you know, there's a lot of different moving parts on this, but understand we are up against religious zealots. They have a religious creed, and ours had better win out because their vision for the future has nothing to do with the founders, has nothing to do with natural rights or human dignity on any level. And we need to accept that and face that and go,

we better beat this religious zealots and meet them with our own passion because if we don't, we will lose. So is it possible, so in other, are consequences enough to stamp this out? So right now we've lived in kind of a consequence free culture for left-wing politicians of power. If a lefty acts tyrannically,

they're almost never held accountable for it, or if they are, it's just a slap on the wrist. The Trump administration is trying to undertake some effort to have accountability. LaMonica McIver just had a bunch of grand jury indictments unsealed this week against her. That's important. She assaulted federal officers. She should be held accountable for it. Makes total sense to me. The Trump administration is now sending National

Guard, United States Marines, into LA to try and restore order there. If there are consequences, does the left learn lessons from that? Or is that kind of zealotry that you just described so entrenched that? Well, I don't want to be a total pessimist, but that it's over that there's no way out of this thing Well, I don't think we have much in common if anything with the un-american left Like I said, this is a religious quest for them to have power I think the only way you actually first of of all, we do live in a consequence free society writ large, people are oftentimes not exposed to the

consequences of their decisions. And when people are not exposed to those consequences, the next time around, the behavior is even worse. And so I absolutely believe that people need to be held accountable for a lot of egregious behavior over the previous 10 years. And I think the left should in the immediate be exposed to the consequences of their terrible intentional decisions on this illegal alien invasion. But I think the only way we get back to normal events, if we're being honest, since we have nothing in common with the un-American left is you have to beat

them into unconditional surrender politically. And this is why I've started to become not obsessed, but we have to focus in our own way in the proper perspective on political power. And we should be organizing a lot of our efforts in 26, 28, 30, before the census kicks in on how do you actually maintain political power to make sure they never see it again as we implement the right policies for this country. So to me it's very cut and dried. You will never find common ground with the un-American left and so the only real solution moving forward is to make sure they never see political power again. Yeah well God willing you're right that that happens. They deserve the wilderness they find

themselves in right now. 100 percent. Okay let me let me ask you about reining in the government because I find this to be very important too. I don't think this is an either or. I think both of these are required. We have to deport every illegal we can get our hands on and we've got to cut government spending pretty aggressively. And this week the House is considering a nine billion dollar rescissions package. This is, as you and I discussed in the first place, it's just a starter package. This is a very small amount of spending we're asking Congress to consider cutting.

The House is expected to go through final passage today, but apparently behind the scenes, Ned, and you may have a better perspective on this than I do, the arm twisting has been difficult just to get the $9 billion signed off on. As of midday yesterday, there were at least 10 Republican holdouts who were still kind of squeamish about cutting PBS, NPR, and USAID spending. What is going on here, Ned? Well, again, it goes back to a Republican majority has to be a majority of America first before you actually see are going to see legitimate progress

made on some of this. But let's just go let's let's talk about this. First of all, the big, beautiful bill codifies Trump's campaign promises. These things have to be done specifically on immigration. 175 billion for border wall, 10,000 new ICE agents, no less than a million deportations, all these great things. 701 miles of the border wall, which is amazing. But I just want to remind people you have to fix that illegal immigration problem because it is a hidden tax on the American people. It's about 150 billion a year that illegal aliens are costing us as a country. So think of it as cost savings on that front. There's 1.6 trillion in mandatory savings in the big beautiful bill. The CBO, not a friend of Trump's, actually

made the point that over the next decade, his tariffs could reduce the federal deficit by 2.8 trillion. And then we get to this whole idea of rescissions, right? And there are Republicans that are problematic. We will always have that from out of the blue states, Republicans who are not quite on the same page with us. I think this is pretty easy. So I'm a little staggered that a 9 billion rescissions package on USAID, NPR, PBS, all these things, that should be a slam dunk. But where I think we're going to actually end up in August, speaking of cutting spending, the whole idea of pocket rescissions.

And you and I kind of I was alluding to this the last time we were on and then the White House like don't let's not talk about this for a couple weeks, but now I can. I think on August 18th, you're going to see a lot of rescission sent to Congress has to be within the last 45 days of a fiscal year, which ends September 30th for these rescissions to kick in. And I actually asked OMB folks, how much do you think we could actually cut in spending? Is it a trillion? They're like, no, it's not a trillion, but it's hundreds of billions of dollars. So you start to think through if we cut out the cost of illegal immigration, we have the

mandatory savings, the savings from using the tariffs and reducing the federal deficit pocket rescissions. Now we're actually talking trillions upon trillions. That's legitimate money, Vance. And it's just the first year of the Trump administration. We have to keep the majorities in 26 to keep the progress going. But we're making progress here,

and I want people to just understand there is a plan in place. Okay, so let me, I wanna put a finer point on pocket rescissions because rescissions were an alien concept, I think, to most people. Now we're getting into an even deeper level, pocket rescissions. Look, the White House has a handbook, a guide here

on where they can start cutting. It's Doge. Doge has found something like, what, 150, $160 billion in cuts. And so right away, after this nine billion goes through, on August 18th, all they have to do today is here's our Doge rescissions, present that, and the upside is they don't need Congress at all.

That's what you're talking about here because that 45 day window starts, and it doesn't matter when it ends, it's over. And the effect, as I understand it, Ned, and confirm this for me, because the White House is cutting that spending in the closing days of the fiscal year, what that means is any continuing resolution going forward is not gonna include that spending in the closing days of the fiscal year. What that means is any continuing resolution going forward

is not gonna include that spending anymore. So that cutoff is a permanent cutoff of the spending unless Congress comes up with new appropriations, right? And the other thing too, that I think is really beautiful about pocket rescissions, Congress would have to go out of its way to actually overturn those rescissions, which again, we've got some problematic Republicans in the House and obviously in the Senate, they would have to side with Democrats to overturn these

rescissions, but it would have to be an over act by Congress to actually overturn these rescissions. And I love that. I mean, let's face it, most people in Congress are not exactly profiles in political courage. They would prefer to duck the really hard decisions, apparently on spending as well. And I think this is actually a beautiful solution because it requires Congress to actually do nothing, sit on their hands and simply let these rescissions go into reality, into effect.

So I totally agree with you and I love that. I love, get them on the record, show us who you really are. I love that. But the other piece of this Ned is the White House hasn't actually told us which cuts they wanna present in August. And I wonder about the strategy of this

because as far as I'm concerned, it sounds to me like the White House doesn't wanna add any noise to the debate. Right now their goal is they wanna get the big beautiful bill passed and they do want at least a few rescissions to be cut. But other than that, their goal is they want to get the big, beautiful bill passed, and they do want at least a few rescissions to be cut. But other than that, the last thing they want to do is create any sort of other political

liabilities by being explicit about that August 18th date and what they want to do with it going forward. Is that your view? Yes, absolutely. I think they are almost wholly focused on getting this big, beautiful bill passed the Senate. Obviously, there's going to be tweaks, go back to the House, they're gonna reconcile it all, send it to Trump,

get it done. And I do think the Senate's gonna pass by July 4th, before July 4th, the big, beautiful bill. What that reconciliation between the House and the Senate bills look like, I think, I would hope it's done by the August recess. I don't know how the White House feels about that, but that's kind of what I'm expecting.

Don't leave town until you actually get this passed and onto Trump's desk. And then we can go into the budget cycle. We can get into the rescissions process a couple of weeks after that, and we can really focus on cutting the spending, which there's no debate here that we actually have to have a serious conversation

about cutting spending, but now's not the time to have it, especially with cutting spending, but that's not the time, now is not the time to have it, especially with the big, beautiful bill that comes later. And I think there's actually a very legitimate plan. And I think the White House is leaving it until they get through the big, beautiful bill. Okay, so I had Senator Rand Paul on with me yesterday and his core objection continues to be the debt ceiling hike.

He says, I don't wanna raise the debt ceiling by $5 trillion. I can't vote for that. If we do that, we can't say we're conservative anymore. This is what he said. So he says he's been saying that if we just get rid of that debt ceiling component to the big, beautiful bill, I can support it. There are other elements. There's some elements I disagree with, but I'll vote yes on it

if the debt ceiling thing is out of it. Here's what the quandary I think that that he's in, because as because as a practical matter and again you tell me if I'm right about this. If he separates the debt ceiling out with or without Rand Paul and if this package goes through or not that debt ceiling is going to be raised by Congress. That is a just a certainty that that's going to happen. What Rand is suggesting though is I want to give Chuck Schumer power over the legislation that does that. That's the effect of what he's saying. Am I right? That's exactly the point I was going to make. So, oh Rand, you want to have a debate with Chuck Schumer every three months about raising

the debt ceiling? He is going to extract a pound of flesh out of us every time. So let's just get it done. Let's have this conversation right now so we don't find ourselves every few months having to ask Chuck Schumer to help us out on raising the debt ceiling because we're going to need Democrats to do that through that process and kind of put ourselves of our own volition hostage to Chuck Schumer and his pet little projects that are going to benefit Democrats on the left. I think the entire strategy is kind of insane. And I think the only reason that Rand Paul and Thomas Massey are getting away with some of this stuff is it does get a little complicated in the whole process of everything.

So they're making all these arguments, but I think it's a little hard for the lay people, the people that are out there living their normal lives to fully understand. But what they are advocating to me kind of borders on political stupidity. I agree. Yeah. And, you know, he didn't, he didn't bring it up yesterday in our interview, but he's been citing this number.

He says that, I don't know why we're spending all this money on the border wall. I think you cited a number here was like 170 billion or something. 150. And he says, he's quoting numbers. He's quoting numbers.

He's like, it should only cost us 65 billion or 6.5 billion. He said, 6.5 billion. Why are we spending all this other money? And I looked into where he got the math from. He was quoting what it would take to build 1000 miles of pedestrian wall from a 2009 GAO report. And he's not talking about

that this is a multi-layered approach. The Trump administration wants to build pedestrian wall They want to build roads along the side of the border. They want to build water barriers They want to build a multi-layered 2400 miles worth of variable layers in order to fully secure our border So rands not even having the same conversation as the White House is having about what to build on the border It's again. I don't want to attribute too conversation as the White House is having about what to build on the border. It's again, I don't want to attribute too many things to Ram, but it's pretty disingenuous

what he's doing right now, especially on those costs. The wall that I want, Vince, people should go look at the border wall between Gaza and Egypt. That's the border wall I want for us on our southern border just to make sure that people understand you're not coming through, we're done with this. And we're not gonna allow another illegal alien invasion to take place.

So I think again, going back to some of the process and some of the numbers, I don't think that people are being fully honest in this debate on a whole host of fronts. Okay, last thing on the wall. The wall, people need to understand, is a durable thing that is hard to overturn by executive order. So when it comes to Washington, with the changing of power

and the changing of administrations, so much changes, we saw it during Biden, so much changes so rapidly, and our country gets invaded. Regardless of what happens electorally, if Trump succeeds in fortifying our southern border, it gets a lot more difficult for the left to tear that down. They'll try, but that is a lot more difficult to get rid of once it's actually built. 100% and that's an excellent point because we have to create, human history tells us at some point, as much as I want to send them into permanent exile into the political wilderness Democrats will probably regain political power at some point in the future. We

have to make structural changes that makes their they're getting back to political power that much harder, their implementation of their twisted war policies that much harder. I mean this is one of them. If you put in this bill fund 701 miles of the Southern border wall, you put these structural changes in no matter what they want to do in the future. I hope it's a very distant future before they get political power.

It makes it that much harder for them to do what they've done to us the last four years. Yeah, big time. All right, we gotta get our country back and you are working on that. 100% Please keep plugging away, Ned, and figure out a way to keep Democrats from ever getting political power back so we don't have to worry about all this.

Thank you very much. Good to talk to you, sir. Really appreciate you. All right, man. I appreciate it. The great Ned Ryan from American Majority. That guy's a star. Love having him on the show and digging into this. And so that is the number, that's the date to look out for. August 18th, ladies and gentlemen, August 18th continues to be the number to look out for. On the White House coming in and saying,

these are the cuts we're making, Congress, you can join us in this party. You don't have to. Because if you don't, that's just as good. We will cut the government permanently in a really big way on August 18th. Now, that's Ned is hearing that I've heard Russ vote the head of the Office of Management and Budget talking about pocket rescissions over and over and over again. By and large, the media has sort of ignored this. I'm not ignoring it. Ned's not ignoring it.

I know you're not ignoring it. That's a very, very big deal. So we're gonna keep attuned to that. And in the meantime, I don't wanna say keep the pressure up, but yeah, go ahead and keep the pressure up. Just keep reminding the President of the United States and the White House, we care about this. We absolutely wanna cut spending.

Step one, of course, is getting our country back though. We gotta get our sovereignty back. Build that wall and get the illegals out. That's what the big, beautiful bill will do. Hopefully Rand Paul meets with President Trump at that picnic and he comes to his senses and he says, I got to vote for this thing. I got to vote for this thing.

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