The Dan Bongino Show - What is Pegasus? (Ep 1565)

Episode Date: July 19, 2021

What is Pegasus? This is the biggest story of the day. In this episode, I discuss the troubling revelations about this new surveillance tool.  News Picks: What is Pegasus? Governments are increas...ingly pressuring social media companies to pull down content. The coming coup article discussed in the show. The media has lost all of their credibility. And they did it to themselves. Democrats don’t support science as they continue to support face diapers for your kids.  Brian Stelter gets REKT on his own show! France goes full totalitarian in their panicked effort to promote Covid hysteria.  Is your child speaking like Peppa Pig? Don’t miss my new Fox Nation special. Copyright Bongino Inc All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. I promise you by the end of the day, when a lot of the producers and bookers have heard this show, what is Pegasus is going to be the biggest question in the media. I promise you. What is Pegasus? We're going to talk about Pegasus a bit today.
Starting point is 00:01:02 We're going to talk also about, I hope, if not, we will get to it tomorrow. The Michael Anton article we discussed before the election, the coming coup, and how everything he said has now come true. This may be one of the most important shows we've done in a long time. By the way, never a more appropriate time for this pre-roll. It's totally unplanned.
Starting point is 00:01:19 You don't like government big tech spying on you? Not planned at all. Get a VPN today. Don't wait. Go to expressvpn.com slash Bongino. Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show. Let's get right to it. Another just quick note. Thank you to Turning Point USA for having me. I spoke this weekend on Saturday. My speech went viral on my Facebook page. I addressed some of the health problems over the last year, not as like a pity party thing, but it was fascinating because some of the feedback on social media amongst the, you know, leftists who really hate humanity and hate their own lives is, man, Dan's like a real
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Starting point is 00:04:12 Joe was very excited. We've been doing British accents all morning. We'll explain why at the end. I really hope we get to this. All right, let's get to this first. What is Pegasus? This will be the biggest story I'm guessing by the end of the day. If you haven't seen this, you have to. There's a story in The Guardian called Revealed. A leak uncovers the global abuse of a cyber surveillance weapon. It's a spyware system, folks. It's been sold to authoritarian regimes.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's been used to target politicians, activists, and journalists, the data suggests. This is a stunning article. Now, The Guardian is a left-wing outlet. They've produced some stuff that's questionable at best. But this is a stunning act of actual journalism if this story turns out to be true. I have said to you often, this is serious time. It's like, let's crack the book on serious time and close the book on sarcastic time. That the biggest threat to your liberty and freedom right now, the biggest threat, is the big tech government symbiote.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Big tech is working with government and I've made the case and I'll make it again. Big tech is actually more powerful than government right now because government needs big tech to do, to crush civil liberties, but big tech doesn't need government to crush civil liberties. Think about that. Process that for a moment, please. It's really important. Big tech, Google, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube can crush your ability to speak, your ability to assemble. You want to organize a rally on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:05:53 They'll shut it right down. You want to use Eventbrite? They can shut that down, organize a rally. Name a, you want to put out a religious sermon online? If it doesn't comport with LGBTQ ideology, I'll take that down too they big tech does not need government to crush your civil liberties does everybody got that the verdict is in it is true but government does need big tech as evidenced by the biden administration
Starting point is 00:06:17 last week publicly saying hey we're going to facebook to crush what they classify as misinformation about coronavirus you're not even allowed to talk about coronavirus anymore. Everybody tracking out on the show? Nothing going forward to make any sense if you don't get that. The big tech government symbiote is the most dangerous threat to civil liberties out there today, period. And this proves it. If this story turns out to be accurate about Pegasus, the ramifications will be devastating. You could be surveilled right now.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Some of you listening to this probably are being surveilled. It has ramifications for media blackmail. Think about it. If your phone is being spied on, all of the activity on your phone, including geolocation, everything, the descent into totalitarianism just requires one simple request from this company. Now, I will give you the company's position before we start about Pegasus. The company that makes it, NSO, is like, listen, we produce this technology, which is fine. It's free to produce the technology. They're like, we're not responsible
Starting point is 00:07:17 what governments do with it. That's fine. That's fine. That's their statement. They're saying, we don't, you know, I'm just giving you their statement in advance so that no one can say we didn't get both sides. Let's get to what Pegasus is first. Here, from the piece. Please read this piece. It's in my newsletter,
Starting point is 00:07:37 bongino.com slash newsletter. Read it front to back, side to side. bongino.com slash newsletter. The piece, it's in there right there. The Guardian, what is Pegasus? Pegasus is a malware.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It infects iPhones and Android devices and enables the operators of the Pegasus tool to extract, listen to this, your messages, your photos, your emails, to record calls and to secretly activate microphones. In other words, in live live time they can listen to
Starting point is 00:08:05 your calls an extraction tool ladies and gentlemen what the hell are they extracting you may say oh okay we always assume tech companies and invented technology like this i mean all of us i've been warning you about the dangers of surveillance for a long time i think if you listen to the show everybody assumed the capabilities were there. I just wanted to put that out there first. That is what Pegasus is. It's an extraction tool. Everything we thought these tech companies were capable of,
Starting point is 00:08:33 live time spying on of your phone, is in fact happening, and the technology is there. Now, going back, this is actually the opening statement. I did it in a little bit out of order because I wanted you to know what Pegasus was before we discuss it. Here's the intro to the piece. Screenshot two from the Guardian piece. Human rights activists, journalists, and lawyers across the world have been targeted by authoritarian governments
Starting point is 00:08:59 using hacking software sold by the Israeli surveillance company NSO Group, according to an investigation into a massive data leak. The investigation by The Guardian and 16 other media organizations suggest widespread and continuing abuse of NSO's hacking spyware, Pegasus, which the company insists is only intended for use against criminals and terrorists. So folks, you're reading this. You see who's been targeted now by Pegasus, this extraction tool. I've told you over and over, the hallmark of a free society
Starting point is 00:09:34 is that there's a distinction between the private and public self. You have moments where you are doing things in private. You don't feel like you're being spied on. Conversations with your friends, conversations with your coworkers, you're in your house, you're eating, you're taking a shower, you're shaving, whatever, you're watching something on TV. Oh my God, what are you watching? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It's not my business. It's yours. As long as it's not a crime, you do you. That's the distinction that makes a free society free. A private self. Everybody tracking me? A private self. If this Pegasus tool is being abused by governments around the world, you may think you have a private self, but I've got news for you. It's public. It's not private. Other people are listening. Therefore, there is no distinction. And what you think is a free
Starting point is 00:10:21 society may not, in fact, be a free society. I'll make the case before I made it before and I'll make it again. I believe this is the single most important story today. No matter what is happening, this story needs to be everywhere. So now we've discussed what Pegasus is, an extraction tool for your phone, your computer, whatever, getting your information. We now know people have been targeted according to this leak. If this story is accurate, journalists, lawyers, listen, for as much as I can't stand the media, I'm not a civil liberties fraud like the modern American totalitarian
Starting point is 00:10:56 liberal and people like the ACLU, which seems to abandon their commitment to civil liberties. I am an actual civil libertarian, even though I can't stand journalists, not all of them, but most of them, who've entirely abandoned journalism and are now on the side of the totalitarian anti-free speech movement. I will still defend vigorously, to my last breath,
Starting point is 00:11:19 their ability to live private lives and do their jobs free of government surveillance. Because I'm not a fraud like the leftists out there. Moron Pegasus from this piece. Please, please read the whole thing. This is a devastating piece. Goes on. Look at some of these other people here and what a forensic analysis showed here.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Quote, forensic analysis of a small number of phones whose numbers appeared on the leaked list also showed more than half of these phones had traces of the Pegasus spyware. Wonder if your phone has traces of the Pegasus spyware on it. The Guardian and its media partners, they'll be revealing, this is from the piece, the identities of people whose numbers
Starting point is 00:12:08 appeared on the list in the coming days. I can't wait to see that list. They include hundreds of business executives, religious figures, academics, NGO employees, union officials, and government officials, including cabinet ministers, presidents, and prime ministers. Wait, go on, hold on. Apparently there are 50,000 numbers on this list. close family members of one country's ruler, suggesting the ruler may have instructed their intelligence agencies to explore the possibility of monitoring their own relative.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know, I do my regular Monday morning appearance on Fox & Friends at 8.40 Eastern time every Monday. I do the weekend appearance too. I said this morning before we got out of the segment, I said, mark my words, guys. Listen to my podcast and radio show today.
Starting point is 00:13:11 By the end of today, the biggest story in the country will be Pegasus. 50,000 numbers on the list. Religious leaders, government officials, presidents, prime ministers. You thought you were talking on your phone only to you?
Starting point is 00:13:29 I told you the big tech government symbiote is the biggest threat to liberty in the country today. Hands down. The list goes on. The disclosures apparently are going to begin on sunday so that was yesterday with the revelation that the numbers of more than 180 journalists are listed in the pegasus data including reporters editors and executives at the financial times cnn the new york times france 24 the economist ap and re. The phone number of, folks, this part. Hold on, just come back to me for a second.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I should have cut this into two pieces because the next part is deeply disturbing. Just on the first part, again, not to toot our own horns here, but you should be proud. We are actual constitutionalists who believe in big R God-given rights for everyone, even journalists. They should not be spied on. They should have private lives. They are touched by the hand of God with big R constitutional rights. In a free country, people are free,
Starting point is 00:14:38 like many journalists right now, to act like losers and idiots. Many of them do that and take us up on the offer. The overwhelming majority do, sadly. That does not mean we should support a totalitarian state where people are spied on by a tool called Pegasus, alleged, by the way, according to this report. Again, NSO, the company, denies that they had anything to do with what the technology has been used for after they created it. Fair enough. That's their statement. I'm giving you both sides. But the second part of this is even more disturbing. Back to it. On this list, apparently, is the phone number of a freelance Mexican reporter, Cecilio Pineda Berto. That
Starting point is 00:15:24 number was found on the list. It was apparently of interest the number to a Mexican client in the weeks leading up to his murder when his killers were able to locate him at a car wash. His phone has never been found, so no forensic
Starting point is 00:15:40 analysis has been possible to establish whether it was infected. Hmm. That's analysis has been possible to establish whether it was infected hmm that's uh that's goosebumps material right there again an SO want to be clear the company it makes this is saying man nothing to do with that we just create this technology. Government big tech symbiote. Big, big trouble ahead. Story gets worse.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You may think you're safe using Telegram or WhatsApp or Signal. I don't believe that at all. I always believe that people are watching my stuff. I, people call me a conspiracy theorist, whatever. Um, as I've said on my radio show, we even have a liner for it. You know, I'm running out of conspiracy theories because all of my conspiracy theories are coming true. So people are going to have to start, you know, forking over more conspiracy theories. So we have something to talk about on the show. Because they're not theoretical anymore. Most certainly not. Peace goes on.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Again, you think you're safe on Telegram, WhatsApp, and Signal? Claudio Guarneri, who runs Amnesty International's security lab, said once a phone's infected with Pegasus, a client of NSO could in effect, that's the company, again, that produces the technology, could in effect take control of the phone, enabling them to extract a person's messages, calls, photos, and emails. They can also secretly activate cameras. How does that make you feel? Or microphones.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You got your phone in your bedroom? It can also read the contents of encrypted messaging apps, such as WhatsApp, Telegram, and Signal. Keep your phone in your bedroom? Do things in your bedroom you don't want people to see? I think we can all answer yes to that one, right? Not talking about sleeping. Got your phone there? Pegasus on your phone?
Starting point is 00:17:55 That's a conspiracy theory, is it? They got 50,000 numbers apparently in this list. Using Signal? you're like, ah, use Signal, it's encrypted. Yeah, good luck with that. It's kind of good to know, right? I've got more. I've got one last piece from this
Starting point is 00:18:17 in an article at Media Post about, again, how the big tech government symbiote is the biggest threat to liberty and freedom right now. There's no question about it. There's not even a close second. More on that coming up in a second. Let me get to my second sponsor.
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Starting point is 00:20:36 the Mark Milley statements. You're going to be like, sounds like something we said months ago. Because it was. All right, the last part of this Pegasus piece in the guardian which is please a must read please read it here's the kicker here you may say to yourself well this pegasus technology you know as long as i don't click on a a malicious link i'll be okay and you'd be wrong according to the reporting again i have not had any film familiarity with pegasus unless it's on my phone now hello you on my phone pegasus if you're on my phone i've no i know i may be getting a new phone as of today hello pegasus folks if you're on my phone right now you're part
Starting point is 00:21:18 of the show you're on the show right now you didn't even know pegasus folks you may think yourself i don't click a oh that was down a lot sorry don may think to yourself, I don't click. Oh, that was down a lot. Sorry, don't mean to get distracted. You don't need to click on a link. From the Guardian piece. The latest advances in NSO's technology enable it to penetrate phones with a zero-click attack. Meaning you don't even need to click a link for the phone to be infected. What do you think of those biscuits?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Huh? How do those biscuits taste? Bad. Tastes bad to me too. Listen, I'm going to propose a solution for all this I don't know if it's a solution But at least it's a mitigation measure To stop the growing big tech government symbiote
Starting point is 00:22:14 The Eddie Brock Venom symbiote None of this is going to get any better There's only one way, I think, to slow down This growing trend of governments working with big tech to surveil their populations. One last article I want you to read. It'll be in the show notes. But again, showing you this is not a small problem. Media posts, governments make greater push to delete Twitter content. This is from last week in an article by MediaPost, I believe it's.com. It's in my newsletter. Governments around the world, again,
Starting point is 00:22:46 are working with big tech to eliminate your ability to speak. The symbiote is the biggest threat to freedom now. I'm not kidding. I'm going to propose an idea. I'm not sure it's the greatest idea on planet Earth. I'm not even sure it's even a good idea. I'm just confident it's the greatest idea on planet Earth. I'm not even sure it's even a good idea. I'm just confident it's an idea that may stop this growing trend of totalitarian surveillance everywhere.
Starting point is 00:23:16 At least in the United States. Folks, it is time to split our federal law enforcement and intelligence infrastructure into three branches. Get rid of the alphabet soup of agencies. It's clear now that what we have now is an internal affairs type mechanism to police the government. That's spying on you in many cases and spied on Donald Trump and the spy gate thing. It's not working. The inspector general's office. It's not working.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Okay. It's not working. general's office. It's not working. Okay. It's not working. I am not confident that the United States government won't use things like this Pegasus given what's going, or they have the ability now with the NSA to do a lot of this anyway. I'm not confident in them. I don't put my faith in government and you shouldn't either. We have to split the federal government into a law enforcement entity,
Starting point is 00:24:06 an intelligence entity, and a fully empowered internal affairs division. It is the only way. Listen, it's no guarantee any of this is going to work. But I'm telling you now, what we're doing now is not working. These stories are endless about NSA abuses, the Tucker Carlson story, the Spygate story. We need a fully empowered internal affairs branch of the United
Starting point is 00:24:32 States government. People not in the law enforcement. The way it works now is a lot of these people had prior experience with the FBI. I know they have friends over there, whatever. Then they go in and investigate. They're all buddies. Unacceptable. We need a separate branch that can review the other two, that is fully empowered to investigate the intelligence
Starting point is 00:24:53 and law enforcement community for abuses. Folks, when I was with the NYPD, even though they were cops brought up in the ranks, which again, I don't think is a good idea, people were pretty afraid of internal affairs. They were. Well, any cop listening who grew up in the NYPD or worked there will tell you that.
Starting point is 00:25:11 When you saw internal affairs in the house, you knew something happened and you were in trouble. Imagine how much more effective they'd be if they weren't former cops, but were people reared outside of the intelligence law enforcement infrastructure. All of a sudden, FBI agents would be worried like NYPD cops were if you were doing something wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Hey, IA shows up, you're in big trouble. We don't have that now. The Inspector General's office is a joke. It's a total joke. And you are going to see more of this if we don't put a stop to it. I promise you. All right, before we get to the Michael Anton article, I told you it'd be a loaded show today. I hope you all saw my Fox News Network
Starting point is 00:25:56 show this weekend, unfiltered at 10 p.m. We had a guest on. We brought the rebuttal back, the debate with the liberal guests. And finally, finally, I have been praying for this moment forever. I have been trying forever to get a Democrat on camera to admit that their insistence that black voters are incapable of producing ID in their efforts to fight voter ID. The Democrats, they want to fight voter ID because they love fraud. That's a fact. I'm not debating it. You're a liberal listening.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They're clawing at the faces. You're foaming at your mouth. You can't say that. It's true. Go to another show if it bothers you. It's a fact. Democrats love fraud in elections. They love it.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That's why they can't stand voter ID. Their argument to try and advance fraud and stop voter integrity has been, black people can't figure out how to get voter ID. I have been trying forever on camera to get a Democrat to admit that that's really racist because it is. Suggesting black people are too dopey to be able to figure out how to get an ID is about the most racist thing you could say. No one's admitted it up till now,
Starting point is 00:27:12 up till now. I had Maya Cummings on former head of the Democrat party in Maryland, in the state of Maryland. She agreed to come on and finally admitted what I've been saying forever, that it is racist to suggest black people can't get totally eviscerating the Democrats case. Here's cut one from the show. I hope you saw it live this weekend, but it's worth repeating. Check this out. I'm asking you because I believe it is not racist to ask a black voter to produce a driver's license because just like white voters and Hispanic voters, black voters can produce a driver's license because just like white voters and Hispanic voters,
Starting point is 00:27:45 black voters can get a driver's license. It's the Democrat Party arguing otherwise. Don't try to flip the script. I'm asking you the question, why is it racist? This is really stupid. You can't answer the question. It's really stupid. I'm asking you a simple question. It's the stupidest question that I've ever heard. Dan, please come on. How is it stupid? You know that black voters just like white voters across the United States get driver's licenses. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:11 We also know. You just made my point. Yes. My man. The props everywhere. That was the relief band too. I hope it still works. I need it.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Finally, Democrat on camera admits what we've been saying the entire time. That the Democrats case that black voters can't get voter ID because they can't figure it out is in fact racist. And, you know, very well, black voters get it. Yes, I do. That's my point. That's the point we've been making the whole time. Now, on the show, she realizes right away, all of a sudden, she stepped in it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 She's like, oh my gosh, what's that smell on my shoes? She tries to backtrack right quick on this one. Here's about a minute left. This went on for a little while. It's back and forth. We didn't play the whole thing. But with about a minute left to go in the segment, right after that, she realizes, oh boy, I just made the Republican case that voter ID isn't racist because black people can,
Starting point is 00:29:33 in fact, go get a driver's license, which really is not some like stunning assertion. Oh my gosh, black people get it. It is the leftists, apparently. Here she tries to backtrack and tries to make them care. Oh, no, no. Black people don't drive. The black people don't drive. It's just like, they can't stop. They can't stop
Starting point is 00:29:53 with the racist tropes. They can't stop. No, no, no. Black people can't drive or something. I'm like, really? Because the Texas law, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:02 you don't have to drive. You can produce a social security number as voter ID too. Not even the whole thing, just the last four digits. Do black voters not have social security numbers either? Watch this. She loses her by watch or try to backtrack. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We also know that black voters tend to not be, tend to not drive at the same rate as white voters. And so there's a higher percentage of African-Americans that do not have driver's licenses. And that is why we always seek to actually have additional forms of voting ID that are actually able to be presented at the voting polls. And what's interesting about Texas is they allow gun owners to present their gun, you know, cards to vote. And yet they won't allow students to prevent that to use their student I.D. cards. And so, you know, you've got a problem in
Starting point is 00:30:52 Texas. The problem with Texas is historically been racist and it continues to this day. Yeah. Well, you know, you just basically discredited the entire Democrat argument against voter. You understand that, right? Like you made the Republican point. We've been saying forever. And we appreciate you doing that. No, no, you did. And we appreciate you doing that. Back in the Republican position that black voters are perfectly capable of getting a driver's license and their social security number. You made our point. And we really thank you for doing that. I told you, Dan, I told you that black voters have a higher percentage of non-drivers. And that means that we have to have more forms of voting for all kinds of people.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Do they have social security numbers? I'm out of time. Do they have a social security number? Absolutely. The black voters have a social security number. They do. Absolutely. So you know they can put the last four digits of their social in two.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Or are you suggesting they don't know that either? Sorry. I know you're not supposed to laugh at your own stuff i'm not laughing at my stuff i'm laughing at hers then she admits because in the texas law he got to produce the last four digits of your social then she admits that yes yes black people have social security numbers she just made the case you would think she was coming that wasn't thebuttal. We call that segment the rebuttal when we put the liberal on. That was the pro-buttle. She just made my point beautifully. Yes, black voters have social security numbers and can get driver's license.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Thank you, Maya Cummings. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming on and so strongly advocating for the voter ID case. We deeply appreciate it. I genuinely hope, and I say this out of no sense of self-interest at all. I get it. It's my show.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I understand. This is not, I'm not being egomaniacal here at all. I hope all of you take that cut, put it on your social media accounts, and thank Maya Cummings, the Democrat, for making the case for voter ID to everyone. Please. I hope you do that. I don't even care if you cut my part out. I don't even care if you mentioned it was my show. I thank Maya Cummings. Put it on your Twitter parlor, getter, cloud hub, locals, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok. Put it everywhere and thank Maya Cummings for
Starting point is 00:33:06 finally making the case thank you Maya that's right she keeps trying to change the no no driver's license then it's about social security numbers then it's about gun IDs then it's about student ID
Starting point is 00:33:20 they all have social security numbers Maya you may want to do some homework on that. All right, let me get to my third sponsor, and then I want to get to, we got to get to Stelter too, guys. Don't let me leave the show without doing Stelter, because it's hilarious. We got a lot. Don't go anywhere, please. Hey, living with chronic pain is the worst. I have it now. I have arthritis. It really sucks. It's not just uncomfortable. You can't sleep. You can't work out on certain days. You wake up super sore. It's been a nightmare for me. I started using Omax.
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Starting point is 00:36:03 and elsewhere. It was Davey Alba at the New York Times, one after me and Mark Levin, who, by the way, will be a guest on my radio show today, The Great One. Don't miss that unintentional segue. Mark Levin on my radio show at the top of the second hour. The article which scared the Democrats and they attacked anyone who discussed it before the election was this article in The American Mind. It's by Michael Anton. Jim, if you're listening, let's get him on the show this week, please. The radio show. I know he listens while we do the podcast. He gets to listen to it live.
Starting point is 00:36:34 He heard the snafu before too. I had to cut out. I lost my, I rarely, if ever lose my train of thought. I lost it before and I went off on like a tangent and I told Guy, we got to do that over because I don't want to bore my audience. And got it happens sometimes very rarely but it happens jim heard that too but get michael anton on this week if you can i want to talk to him about this article justin and gilab is like what's the point of cutting it out if you're going to tell people about it later just leave it in then just leave it in the show leave it in he's justin's got his head in his hands like we can't like with this guy what are we going to do with this guy? As you go on, it's not another tangent about a tangent that he cut out of the show.
Starting point is 00:37:12 We have, listen, we have a lot of fun here. I enjoyed the show. I enjoyed a crew, but I did. I didn't want to waste your time at that public private side was important. So I redid it. The American mind be in the show notes today. Bongino.com slash newsletter, newsletter, show notes. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Read this article. It was put out before the election. It was called the coming coup. The left went nuts about it. Crazy. Why? Because the predictions in it were very scary. Michael Anton is a former Republican administration official.
Starting point is 00:37:44 He knows his stuff. He writes some really, really good stuff. And one of the things he predicted, I'm going to put up in a second. Remember, folks, this was written before the election. One of the things he predicted, all coming to fruition now, to use the buzzword du jour, was that we're entering a dangerous point in America in the Trump era where even our military personnel are becoming oddly political.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Anton wrote this again before the election. He's talking about John Podesta, this Democrat activist who had put out with this group a paper about ways that the Democrats were going to try to steal the election, I think. That was my reading of the paper. So Anton writes, what then? The Podesta assumption is that the military will side with the Democrats. There are reasons to fear they might. The Obama administration spent a great deal of political capital purging the officer corps of anyone in the military not down with the program and promoting only those in the military who are. Still and all, determining the outcome of an election would be the most open political interference possible from our allegedly apolitical military.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And it's plausible that the brass won't want to make its quiet support of the ruling class agenda that overt. Written before the election, warnings by Michael Anton that Democrat activists were pushing and prodding the military basically to take a side. Something our military is never supposed to do with politics. We have a civilian-led military, a civilian commander-in-chief. They are never supposed to be involved in politics. Look at this story now on Yahoo News. Just last week, ex-joint chiefs chairman Mike Mullen.
Starting point is 00:39:49 It's incredibly disturbing that military leadership reportedly feared a Trump coup. Remember the Mark Milley story? They really feared a Trump coup? You really believe that? Do you really believe that our military people, number one, to enact a coup, folks, you'd need our military, correct? Can we just walk this through common sense-wise?
Starting point is 00:40:16 Can we do that for a moment? To enact a coup, you would need our military, correct? So if Mark Milley, current member of the joint chiefs who's been out all over tv talking about critical race theory and all kinds of junk unrelated to winning wars what he's supposed to be doing if mark milley was worried about a coup and said you know basically that uh hinted trump could be looking to use the military, then what were they worried about if Milley was the one in charge of the military that would have had him enact the coup?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Does that make sense to you? You get what I'm saying? If he's running the military, why was he worried about Trump using the military he's running? Where am I going with this? Let me make a suggestion to you. He's not. And he never was worried about a Trump coup.
Starting point is 00:41:08 That the story was made up. The story was made up to, how do we call it, work the refs? The left-wingers, Podesta and others, put out this report to signal to military leaders, hey, you better take our side. We're going to win this thing. We're going to win this thing right now. And anything even remotely seen as apolitical or not supportive of the Biden Democratic machine, this is before the election. We will make sure people get it out there that you guys supported a Trump coup.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Did that make sense? Yeah. You sure? It's working the refs. I'll give you just the working the refs example, right? You go into the finals of your basketball league and you think the ref hates you. So you
Starting point is 00:42:03 go to the local media before the game. These refs hate us so much. They're not going to be fair. There's no way. What are you doing? You're putting it out there so that the refs on every call will be like, oh my gosh, they did commit a foul.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But if I say that, it'll look like I'm going after him. And they said on TV, I was going to go after him. That's what they're doing. The Democrats, that's what they did. They put out
Starting point is 00:42:25 this dog whistle to the media that you better overtly support the Democrat agenda. And if you don't, and even appear apolitical, we'll make sure that it gets out there that you guys were supporting a coup by Donald Trump. Everything Anton said is coming true in this piece. That's why it scared the Democrat media establishment so much. Picture my daughter. Picture. Here's another one from the piece. Read this piece again before the election.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Everything he said was going to happen is happening. Before the election, everything he said was going to happen is happening. He talks about how it was super important to get the media. By the way, just not to get distracted here, folks, but the Dow is down pretty dramatically right now. We'll see if it recovers. That's down. It's down 700 plus points right now. That's a big drop. I don't care what level it right now. That's a big drop.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I don't care what level it's at. That's a huge drop. We'll stay on that. Stay tuned to the radio show for ongoing coverage of that. He also says in the American mind piece that the Democrats had a strategy. They wanted to work not only the military working the refs, they wanted to work the media too. They wanted the media to not call the race for Trump, despite the numbers, to make sure the race was called for Biden, even if it was up in the air if Biden had won or not. Sound familiar? You had the whole Chris Stierwald incident at Fox,
Starting point is 00:44:01 and the other guy, the pollster guy too, I forget his name. They got let go. Remember those guys? Remember the people at the other network calling it right away? Oh, Georgia, it's over. Georgia, yeah, man, it's good. Arizona. They were working the media, too.
Starting point is 00:44:19 From the American mind piece. Quote, they also need to set up or shore up now. Communication channels, talking about these leftists planning this coming coup, according to his words. American mind piece, quote, they also need to set up or shore up now communication channels talking about these leftists planning this coming coup, according to his words. They need to shore up communication channels that don't rely on the media or big tech. Once the ruling class gives word that the narrative is, quote, Trump lost all the press. This is insane. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:41 This is insane. All the president's social media accounts will be suspended. The TV channels, with the likely exception of Fox News, will refuse to cover anything he says. Count on it. He's going to need a way to talk to the American people, and he has to find the means now. Let's check out this CNBC story.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Show you just how accurate Michael Anton was. Facebook says Donald Trump to remain banned for two years, effective from January 7th. Donald Trump was banned from Twitter. I believe, though, was it Shopify? Was banned from YouTube. Wiped off the face of the earth on social media. Tell me again how the big tech government symbiote is not the most dangerous threat to liberty in our country today.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Tell me one more time. I'd love to hear it. Again, Anton, before the election wrote this. Here's another one that just a news article, just one of many. You just have to put Georgia election fraud, just the news or any other conservative website, and you'll get something like this. Georgia audit documents expose significant election failures in the state's largest county. You get how they did this year back to the anton piece gotta work the refs work the military and tell them don't you dare be apolitical if you were apolitical we will accuse you of being involved in a coup with donald trump therefore how did they? They responded by behind the scenes, quietly, many of them at the upper levels supporting Biden.
Starting point is 00:46:28 They also worked the media. Don't you dare call the race for Trump. So the media erred on the side, many of them, of calling the race early for Biden. And after the race got called for Biden, Trump was to be wiped off the face of the earth. It happened right after January 6th, so he can't communicate with anyone. And then if any malfeasance is discovered, like we're seeing in Georgia right now, where the results could not be the results you think you got, the results in Georgia could change if some of these fraud stories are proven in fact true. Doesn't matter, right?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Matters to us, to the media. It doesn't matter at all. Media's like, oh, it's over. Move on.org. Oh, it matters to us. We're not moving on.org. All right, I'm going to get to Stelter in a second. This is, please don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I know it's Brian Stelter. He's a goofball, but this is kind of hilarious. You're not going to want to miss getting wrecked on his own. Totally, completely wrecked. Read that article by Anton, though. We'll try to get him on a radio show this week. Could be amazing having him hot wash this thing now, now that pretty much everything he said came true.
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Starting point is 00:49:02 Michael Wolff, who's listed. Let's be a, he's no friend to the Trump movement. I'm not even sure if he's, he's an author. He writes these books that lean heavily anti-Trump. I'm not even sure this guy's, you know, the real McCoy, but who knows what's real and
Starting point is 00:49:18 who's not, if his sources are good or bad or whatever. I don't know. I'm not endorsing Michael Wolff or his book. But I did find this appearance hilarious. So Stelter, Brian Stelter, the gold medal winner in the Dopey Talking Head Olympics, which he's had that position now for, what guys, two, three years? Joe, was it? He hasn't
Starting point is 00:49:36 been dethroned yet. At least. But we did have to make a big change. Joy Reid is now the silver medalist because of her meltdowns over racist critical race theory. And Chuck Todd has been demoted to bronze. You know, there are a lot of people moving up though. Acosta's moving up. Chuck Todd, that bronze position, it's in a little bit of jeopardy too. Chuck Todd, it is in jeopardy. Chuck Todd needs to do something dumb next week, I think, to hold on to that. But Stelter's firmly entrenched in the gold position. Here's Stelter
Starting point is 00:50:04 getting wrecked on his own show by author Michael Wolff. If you haven't seen this, you're going to want to watch this, rewind it, watch it again, check this out. I think the media has done a terrible job on this. I think you yourself, you know, while you're a nice guy, you know, you're full of sanctimony. You know, you become part of one of the parts of the problem of the media. You know, you come on here and you and you have a, you know, a monopoly on truth. You know, you know exactly how things are supposed to be done. You know, you are why one of the reasons people can't stand the media.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Sorry, you're cracking me up. It's your fault. It's so what should I do differently, Michael? You know, don't talk so much. Listen more. You know, people have genuine problems with with with the media. The media doesn't get the story right. The media exists in its own bubble. That's true. I agree. You know, you got to stop. I mean, that last segment that that that I just had to listen to of all of the people saying the same old stuff. Also, you're incredibly repetitive. It's week after week. I mean, you're the flip side of Donald Trump. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yes. That lad, he got wrecked pretty good, right? All right. He was demolished. Yeah. Demolished? Yeah. He told me he should have gone, go get some coffee, lad, huh?
Starting point is 00:51:40 Get some coffee. He was slapped around. Go get some tea, mate. Yeah. Oh, can't say mate. That's Australian. Yeah, mate. Oh, can't say mate. That's Australian. Yeah, man. You may wonder why Joe and I are talking in really terrible English accents.
Starting point is 00:51:51 That's right. Joe actually is quite good. Mine, not so good. I actually confuse the Australian kind of UK British thing, which is pretty typical because I am the worst at accents. You know, lad, no good, man. It's coming along. Joe's very good. Joe's been doing voices for years
Starting point is 00:52:09 when he was involved in Terrestrial Raider. Why are we doing this and criticizing this hilarious clip or criticizing Brian Stelter in this hilarious clip? Because if you read this New York Post article in the newsletter, apparently a bunch of kids have been sitting home watching Peppa Pig episodes. Hey, Peppa. Hey, Peppa, who has a British accent.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And they have these kids in the United States are now speaking in British accents. They're independent. Hey, Mom. We going on holiday, Mom? Dude, you're from the Bronx. What are you doing? Hey, Mom. We going to have some crumpets and some tea.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I know. I get my accent is bad. These kids are talking like Peppa Pig. Hey, Brian. Hey, Brian. Hey, lad. Go get some coffee for Jeff Zucker, lad. Kids are talking like Peppa Pig. Can you imagine this?
Starting point is 00:52:55 You're living in the Bronx. I grew up in the Bronx. I grew up in Queens. You're like, hey, Tony, come on. You know, we're going out to Jones Beach, whatever. Going to Rockaway for the week. Oh, yes, dad. Thanks for going on holiday for the week.
Starting point is 00:53:05 This is so what? Are we bringing the tea? Oh, forget about it, right? It just doesn't work like that. Your accents are cool. Snowflakes. I'm actually doing a Fox Nation show. Hey, can you throw that up?
Starting point is 00:53:20 Perfect timing. I didn't even think. I have a Fox Nation show on Cancel Culture. You're going to want to check out. It's coming up. It's going to be airing soon. So check it out. up perfect time i didn't even think i have a fox nation show on cancel culture you're gonna want to check out it's coming up it's gonna be airing soon so check it out it's it's uh it's called canceled in america it's really really good but i know you'll want to cancel us poor justin's gotta scroll through a thousand links because i've screwed up everything in this show that here canceled in america it's on the new York Post. They covered it. Fox Nation's new
Starting point is 00:53:46 series covers what it's like to be canceled. I know the cancelers be like, oh my gosh, man, that lad has a terrible British accent. Lighten up losers. I love that accent. I grew up watching James Bond. It's a cool accent. Lighten up. It's a
Starting point is 00:54:02 funny story, especially when you can relate it to Mr. But I had that lad, Brian Stelter, who was a total loser and got wrecked on his own show. And I love how he laughs. He laughs because he's so uncomfortable. He's getting wrecked on his own show. He's like,
Starting point is 00:54:16 it's like I said, well, I laugh when I get blood. When I get blood taken, I freak out. So I laugh because I'll cry otherwise. That's Brian Stelter. Like a joker. that's why he always retains the gold medal he's never gonna lose he is on the medal stand forever in the dopey talking head olympics what'd you say for those of you don't know there was a uh that went out and that went out under the headline and a couple twitter accounts roasted potato you know they call him mr potato head so there you go video of the day for that one not our hero of the day video of the day right there all right on a serious note
Starting point is 00:54:54 getting back to some serious topics we'll wrap up the show with this because it's important you know we talked about the big it's a big tech government symbiote sandwich we started out in the beginning talking about the big tech government symbiote how. We started out in the beginning talking about the big tech government symbiote, how devastating it is. We talked about some, you know, the meat in the sandwich. Now we're back to the bread. It is a big tech government sandwich today. The symbiote is deadly, it's destructive, and it's getting worse. Biden is now openly, through Jen Psaki, Peppermint Patty, and others, calling for Facebook to monitor people. This is very, very dangerous. But it's interesting that they want to classify their monitoring as a misinformation campaign.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Keep in mind, Vivek Ramaswamy was on Fox this morning, and he said something interesting. He said, every, and he's right, every tyrant in human history has always had a convenient excuse to suppress free speech and civil liberties. All they knew is they just make it up. It doesn't matter. They'll just make it up. The excuse now is, quote, misinformation. The Biden administration is saying vaccine misinformation, coronavirus misinformation. That's the reason we are going to watch you and work with big tech to crush free speech. That's interesting because regardless of where
Starting point is 00:56:10 you stand on the vaccine, this is not an argument just to be clear about what we're going to talk about now. Forget about pro or anti vaccines. I'm what I'm talking about now. The Biden administration's point now is if you go on Facebook and say anything negative about the vaccine, we will work with Facebook to crush you. I wonder if this counts. Here's the Daily Kos left-wing lunatic site from September of 2020. It's a real headline. Kamala Harris wouldn't trust the Trump vaccine and neither should anyone else. Should D'Artagnan, the author of this piece, and Kamala Harris be wiped off the Internet? Is Facebook monitoring the M2?
Starting point is 00:56:47 It's a serious question. I'm not making this up. It's a serious question. Why not? According to the Biden administration, that's misinformation. Should that be wiped off the Internet? Should Kamala Harris not be allowed to post again for promoting misinformation? Serious question demands an answer.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Here's another one. Hat tip the RNC. Again, I don't care about where you stand on the vaccine. That's your business. It's your body. You have to make your own appropriate medical decisions. I'm not here to lecture you on either one. I've made mine.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But again, if we're talking about misinformation about the vaccine, does this qualify? Again, hat tip RNC. Here's Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and others talking about the deadly dangers of the vaccine that they now say you're not allowed to say. Check this out. So let's just say there is a vaccine that is approved and even distributed before the election. Would you get it? Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. If and when the vaccine comes, it's not likely to go through all the tests that needs to be and the trials that are needed to be done. When we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine,
Starting point is 00:57:58 who's going to take the shot? Who's going to take the shot? You're going to be the first one to say, put me, sign me up. They now say it's OK. And the question of whether it's real when it's there, that requires enormous transparency. You've got to make all of it available to other experts across the nation so they can look and see. So there's consensus. This is a safe vaccine.
Starting point is 00:58:20 If the president announced tomorrow we have a vaccine, would you take it? Only if it was completely transparent that other experts in the country could look at it. Only if we knew all of what went into it. If Donald Trump can't give answers and the administration can't give answers to these three questions, the American people should not have confidence. But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I'm not taking it. I'm just asking a question. Is that misinformation or not? They say they want people wiped off the Internet
Starting point is 00:58:51 and they should work with government to do it, Facebook and otherwise, for saying negative things about the vaccine. But what about when they said it? Typical behavior of tyrants. Folks, thanks again for tuning in. Don't miss my radio show today. I got the great one Mark Levin coming on. That's going to be terrific.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I really appreciate all of you tuned in to Unfiltered this weekend. That debate was by far my favorite segment of the show so far. I don't need to replay stuff here, and I don't like to do it often, but that was important. We got a Democrat to finally admit the truth. Make sure you subscribe to my Rumble account, rumble.com slash Bongino. It's free. You can watch the video version of the show there. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I will see you all on the radio show and back here on the podcast tomorrow. Thanks for tuning in.

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