The Dan Bongino Show - What Would A National Divorce Look Like? (Ep 1958)

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino welcome back to our live premiere on rumble at 11 a.m eastern time i say welcome back because we started it yesterday like dan you didn't tell us kind of kept it on the qt a little bit wanted to see how it went started on a monday kind of top secret style ninja style we thought uh maybe we'll get a couple thousand people being that we didn't say anything well a couple thousand turned into ten thousand into twenty thousand into thirty thousand almost forty thousand at one point and me and gee looked at each other we were like wow this is kind of thing kind of works. So welcome back.
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Starting point is 00:00:59 Yesterday's show was an important one. We exposed the trap. Today's going to be, I think, an even more important show because there's a big national conversation breaking out on a very, very serious issue we need to really deliberate on before anybody jumps the gun. And that's, do we really want a national divorce? What would that look like?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Marjorie Taylor Greene mentioned it, and it sparked a big national conversation. But as I always do, we need to be very cautious. We're going to walk through this today. Marjorie Taylor Greene mentioned it, and it sparked a big national conversation. But as I always do, we need to be very cautious. We're going to walk through this today, what it would actually look like. Don't go anywhere. Today's show brought to you by ReliefBand. This is my actual ReliefBand.
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Starting point is 00:03:10 Here's Joe Biden yesterday at the White House with these absolutely ridiculous comments by the rotting bag of oatmeal. Check this out. I may be a white boy, but I'm not stupid. I know where the power is. i know where the power is i know where the you think i'm joking i learned a long time ago i i might be a white boy but i'm i'm not i'm not stupid i would uh i would sincerely debate that premise. Not that you are a white boy, whatever the hell that means. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But the second part I think is strongly debatable. I just wanted to throw that out there to show you what's leading our country right now. This is the president of the United States talking like this. So Marjorie Taylor Greene, a congresswoman I like a a lot she made some comments uh not that long ago about how the country is starting to divide itself and that it may be time for a natural divorce i want to be clear she since cleared up those statements to say she wants to return more to federalism she's been absolutely categorical especially for the liberal nuts out there who listen to this show uh welcome we'd love to see you wet your diapers as you listen. She's been absolutely categorical. She's not obviously talking about a civil war. She's talking about the schism in
Starting point is 00:04:29 the country between the left and the right and how we just don't agree on anything anymore, which she's not wrong about. I'm going to play her comments. I'm going to talk about this because this is a really, really serious topic. What would a national divorce actually look like? Here are some of the comments that sparked this big conversation. Check this out. In my life, in my world, all of my friends are regular Americans. Everyone I talk to is sick and tired and fed up of being bullied by the left, abused by the left, and disrespected by the left. And our ideas, our policies, our ways of life have become so far apart that it's just coming to that point. And the last thing I ever want to see in America is a civil war. No one wants that. At least everyone I know would
Starting point is 00:05:13 never want that. But it's going that direction and we have to do something about it. We're also a nation, a crumbling nation. We're a nation in distress. Our government is in complete failure. Over $34 trillion, we are on the verge of default, and we have to do something about that. But that was the right and the left that did that to the American people on their own. But the Democrats never stopped pushing their policies, their ideas, and their culture on Republicans and the right. And we are so sick and tired of it. Listen, let's just be clear, okay? Nothing she said there is wrong. The question isn't, is the premise of what she's saying wrong?
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's not. She's accurate. Absolutely accurate. What I want to question here, I want to go into in the show, is would a national divorce actually solve any of those problems? I want a question here I want to go into in the show. Is would that actually a national divorce actually solve any of those problems? Because there's an assumption built into this that the liberals will leave you alone. And by the way, welcome to the liberal trolls on the live chat. We love you getting wrecked in the live chat.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It was awesome. So please join us every single day. We love you promoting Rumble. Thank you very much. But to the liberal goofball loser, Ben and Jerry's eating diaper wedding zeros out there. You have to understand, they don't want to leave you alone.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So my primary problem with a national divorce is there's an assumption again, that there's going to be this clean break. You're going to have these red states and then these blue states and that these blue states aren't going to do essentially what would be a political invasion of these red states to try them to get to turn to blue states. There's zero chance they're not going to do that. Because think about it. The whole premise of conservatism is God given big R rights,
Starting point is 00:06:59 right? Individual liberty. We just want to be left alone. You leave me alone. I'll leave you alone. You don't violate my civil rights. I'm not going to violate yours. You do you. That's not the liberal premise. These are losers, okay? They don't have real jobs. They don't have real lives. Their entire premise is taking away from you. That's it. I don't need to prove. They prove it themselves. Everything they talk about is taking something from you. You doubt me? Liberal trolls, challenge any of this. Taxes. You want more, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:07:32 You want more of our stuff, right? Healthcare. You want to take away my decisions and give them to government bureaucrats you like, correct? Schools. You want to take away the choice for parents to send their kids to the school of their choice to send them to public schools you choose correct yeah regulations you want the power of you want you know there's no power and yes telling people yes so you want to be able to tell people no to
Starting point is 00:07:54 regulations they come to you and kiss your ass right all right everything is about you taking from us we're not about that they will not you alone. They will follow you to these red states. They will never leave you alone. That's my big kind of bird's eye view issue with a national divorce. It's based on a faulty premise. By the way, I'm not picking a fight with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Again, nothing she said is wrong. And she's been very clear on what her comments mean later,
Starting point is 00:08:21 a more robust federalism, which I agree with. But a national divorce, I've heard a lot of people jump on this bandwagon and say, oh, this is a great idea. Let me just first, before we get into some more pros and cons of this, because we're going to walk through it, let me just debunk a premise first that the liberals will throw out there. Because liberals, again, are really dumb. They are. They're really just genuinely stupid people. I'm not talking about all Democrats, but liberals are really dumb.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They'll make up anything, just to kind of make a point. But let's debunk this nonsense first that, by the way, red states are grifters and they're feeding off the tax money from blue states. Number one, that ignores a number of things. It ignores the fact that retirees typically don't pay as much in taxes as people who are actively working, but they did pay them their entire lives. Okay. So if you're in Florida, that has a lot of retirees, even though they paid taxes their entire lives. Okay. So if you're in Florida that has a lot of retirees, even though they paid taxes their entire lives to the federal government, they're not going to show up as taxes paid now because they're paying fewer taxes. Again, liberals, I know you're stupid, but this
Starting point is 00:09:16 shouldn't be hard to process. Does that make sense? Is that complicated? You guys get that? Second, it doesn't take into account things like military bases, which happen to exist in a lot of red states where a lot of federal money goes as well. So the whole argument is dumb. But even when you look at it, Mises, this article is in my newsletter, Bongino.com slash newsletter. If you want to subscribe, it's free. I encourage you to read this from the Mises blog. No, red state economies don't depend on a gravy train from blue states. No, red state economies don't depend on a gravy train from blue states. They did a simple thing, Joe, like adding up the taxes red states paid and the taxes they got back.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And it turns out that there's no clear pattern at all that there's red states at the top. Mississippi, for example, pretty red state, obviously really red. Yeah, they do get $3 for every dollar taxes paid. But New Mexico, which is a purple state, is second. Then you have West Virginia, red state, Alabama, Alaska, red state, but then you have Maine. And then you have Hawaii, probably the bluest state. Montana, South Carolina, then you have Vermont, then Kentucky, then Arizona, purple state, then Virginia, a blue state. Maybe purple state. The argument makes no, there's no pattern at all.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Some states who are red get a lot of money for every dollar paid in taxes. Some blue states like Hawaii, like Maine, get a lot of money for each dollar paid. So that argument is just factually inaccurate. But it doesn't matter. Again, liberals are idiots and they'll just continue to say it. But Dan, it's debunked. It doesn't matter. They don't care about the truth.
Starting point is 00:10:55 What would a national divorce look like? Well, here would be some of the pros. Let's talk about it rationally. This is the kind of thing that's out there. Then we should be able to use reason, right? By the way, just let me be clear on this from the start too. The assumption built into everything I'm about to say, of course, is this is a nonviolent divorce.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I don't get into it. You want to get into like violent stuff, we don't do that here. I'm not talking to you, the conservatives, I'm talking about the liberal crazies out there because you do you, but we don't do that here, okay? I'm talking about a nonviolent, just kind of peaceful separation,
Starting point is 00:11:26 what it would look like. So I want you to understand that that assumption's built in. Here'd be some of the pros. Dan Horowitz, who I really enjoy his writing at The Blaze, he put a piece up about exactly this. He says, we already have a national divorce. It's just one-sided. And he brings up a pretty excellent point on the pro side.
Starting point is 00:11:44 We'll get to the cons in a minute. Well, it shouldn't be an argument over assets, right? He says, we don't even want the same things. I mean, we like in red States, right? Fellas, we like our natural gas, a Royal, you know, we like this crazy thing called energy and cheap gasoline so we can get around. I know the idea is nuts to the crazy libs, especially the trolls on the live chat, but they don't want that. They want intermittent power like solar, wind, and electric cars that there's no possible way
Starting point is 00:12:12 that they can fund their economies that way, but let them do it. We're not going to argue about the same things. We want police and border patrol. They don't.
Starting point is 00:12:19 We want established supplements and broad-spectrum anti-inflammatory treatments. They want mRNA and masks. We want governmental assets and broad-spectrum anti-inflammatory treatments. They want mRNA and masks. We want governmental assets to help Americans. They want it to help Ukraine and the whole world. So there really shouldn't be an argument over assets. If there was a peaceful separation and a national divorce,
Starting point is 00:12:37 if you guys, if you libs out there are not hypocrites, then you shouldn't worry about us. You shouldn't try to come after our oil and gas or anything like that. Let's talk about another problem. There may be some freedom from the regulatory deluge at tip Wall Street Journal that the federal government is imposing on red states. This piece, Biden's regulatory deluge. This is amazing. I didn't know this guy.
Starting point is 00:13:05 this piece, Biden's regulatory deluge, this is amazing. I didn't know this, guys. Two years, the first two years of the Biden administration, he has imposed 517 new regulatory actions costing $318 billion to our economy. Now, I say maybe there'd be some freedom from the federal regulatory deluge because it's kind of a pro and a con, but you know, the whole world's gray, right? Because if you're doing business interstate and there's the United States and the new United States, the conservative United States, most of those businesses are still going to have a presence
Starting point is 00:13:38 in the old United States, the blue one, and are probably going to be subjected to the old regulations. So don't assume like, oh yeah, we'll be free from these federal regulations. That's not so much. Maybe, maybe some businesses would just relocate and say, listen, we're not going to do business there. We're going to stick with the red states.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Okay. Another problem. Well, I guess you could consider it a culture war victory. CRT would be ripped out of schools. We wouldn't be teaching our kids to be racist anymore. We wouldn't teach our kids that there's no such thing as men and women. We would rip out these vaccine mandates in the new United States. Also, we could get rid of silly, unscientific voodoo nonsense like masks.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Oh, I thought that's going away. Oh, you thought wrong. Just the news. You could read the article. Do you know OSHA is considering a new mask mandate in healthcare facilities? No. No, this article is from 2020. No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It's from... Look at that. Look at that. Joe, it's from February 2023. Very recent. So, which is really weird because it was just a huge meta-analysis showing masks don't work. What the... But it doesn't really...
Starting point is 00:14:44 You saw... Yeah, we covered that on... I think we covered... That's so weird that OSHA, this federal agency, wants masks in healthcare facilities forever, even though we know they don't work. It's almost like it's like voodoo stuff. So we'd be free from that.
Starting point is 00:14:56 That's kind of a pro. You can read that article, by the way. Again, you think I'm making any of this up. Finally, hat tip to my good friend, Mark Levin. We would probably have to draft up a new constitution for the new United States. And we can look into the Liberty Amendments, where we could put more specific restrictions on government growth. Super majorities for tax hikes, constitutional carry, clear up any perceived leftist ambiguity in the Second Amendment. There is no ambiguity. I get it. But there'd be no perception whatsoever in a new constitution. So those are some of the pros,
Starting point is 00:15:32 right? However, if we're going to have a reasonable conversation about this because we're not liberal nutbags, then we do have to discuss the cons too. One of the cons are, I've heard a few people, because I've been following this debate, and I'm never first on a story I choose not to be. I choose to be accurate. I was kind of watching how this story materialized. And as this kind of grew, it's been trending a lot on social media. I decided, you know what? It's time to really do a lot of homework. So I put some work into the show over the last few days. I thought this through a lot. One of the arguments I've seen people talking about on social media is, oh,
Starting point is 00:16:04 taxes. We could get away from a lot of these federal government arguments I've seen people talking about on social media is, oh, taxes. We could get away from a lot of these federal government taxes. Folks, not really. The old United States, what you're used to now is the current United States, which would be the blue states. You have to remember, businesses and people travel. People travel because of business. I assure you, blue states would have all kinds of exit taxes, entry taxes, interstate taxes, border taxes, wait, border at the US border? No, no, borders within the United States,
Starting point is 00:16:34 between the red states and the blue states. There is zero, I would make the case to you, the tax burden on your life might be even worse. Now you may say, oh, I'm retired. I don't need to leave my red state. Fair enough. But that doesn't apply to 90% of people. So the cons are, if you think it's going to save you any tax money, you're probably wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:55 The second point I made before, I don't want to relitigate too much, but they're not going to let you go. Liberals, their entire guiding ethos, the bedrock of what they stand for is the subjugation of others it's the essence of socialism and tyranny that's what liberals live for collectivized government power socialism is the government control of the means of production to take control of the means of production your farms and your businesses they have to take it from you liberals have pursued this in the united states around the world. There are liberal activist groups in the United States that absolutely love and advocate for socialism around the world. Just look at South and Central America. They worship Hamlo and others. What's my point?
Starting point is 00:17:40 You think the same liberals in the United States now that are working to push socialism around the world are going to leave their neighbors alone in red states? Good luck. They'll come after you first. There's zero chance they're going to leave you alone. That's why I say it's not going to really solve anything. A couple more cons to this. Debts won't be forgiven. There's zero chance that they're going to let you go without saying, well, you owe us a certain amount of money.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Well, then we don't have to pay them. Well, really? I mean, there's going to be things we're going to need. I mean, if you had to say the new United States was Florida, Texas, Louisiana, keep it simple. They're going to need some kind of national defense force. Florida, Texas, Louisiana, keep it simple. They're going to need some kind of national defense force. And they're going to need some people to be relieved from military duty to go and be their new military in this new United States.
Starting point is 00:18:33 How are they going to do that? They're going to say, okay, we'll give you guys back, but you got to pay off your percentage of the debt to the federal government, which, by the way, is like $3 trillion or whatever. Well, no one's going to have that kind of money. The debts won't be forgiven. Again, I'm just trying to walk through this practically, what it would actually look like. We don't want to be like liberals where we just talk a lot of junk and we don't actually know what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Military commitments won't be forgiven either. There's zero chance the military is going to be like, oh, you're Texas, Louisiana, Florida. Oh, you guys just go and do your thing. No way. No way. all of your trained military people are going to be stuck with the old united states by the way what would we do about a military threat let's say the new united states of florida texas and louisiana let's say china sees them as a convenient target realizing there's a political schism in the united states they can take advantage of what would we do if china decided to attack on florida oh's a political schism in the United States. They can take advantage of it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 What would we do if China decided to attack on Florida? Oh, that's the craziest idea in the world. Folks, if you think these ideas are crazy, just look at the last 200 years of human history. Not only is this not the exception, it's the rule. Just look at Europe, the map in Europe. Jesse Kelly had a great tweet about this. Look at the changing over 200 years, just 200 years. Basically, two and a half lifetimes. Just look at Europe. You don't think China would take advantage of that? Maybe not with a direct attack. What would we do? We need some kind of military to counter it. These are things to really think about. these are things to really think about.
Starting point is 00:20:05 All right, I've got a couple more I want to get to. Really important ones, too, that I don't think people consider. There's an assumption we're going to have to stay in our states. There's no way. How are you going to travel to airports? How are you going to get around? You know, if you live in Alabama, a state I'm very familiar with, you don't have access to places without stopping off in certain connecting airports.
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Starting point is 00:21:41 GenuCell.com slash Dan. GenuCell.com slash Dan. Thanks, GenuCell. So again, the final couple of cons to a national divorce. Again, a nonviolent one, which, you know, if God forbid it were to happen, again, I think it's a bad idea for the reasons I laid out. But the final two are state border controls. Again, there's an assumption here that the blue states are going to do this in a peaceful manner.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I don't mean peaceful in a violent way. I mean that they're not going to be aggressive about it, especially when it comes to red state, new United States citizens in their states. They're going to try to politically invade your state and keep you out of theirs. Folks, how are you going to travel? You got a business trip in California. What are you going to do? You're going to need a passport. You're going to need a visa. I mean, listen, these are serious things to talk about. It sounds ridiculous, but there's
Starting point is 00:22:33 going to be a conversation about a national divorce. Then there damn well better be a serious one. It's not the kind of thing you try to figure out later. Oh, didn't think of that. What about gun laws? You know, right now, a lot of purple states, even purples have reciprocity laws with Florida. Meaning if you have a carry permit in Florida, that that's respected in another, even in some purple states. But what happens if those purple states don't join the say Texas, Florida, Louisiana, new United States. All of a sudden, you can't carry, you're a criminal carrying a firearm? Because, oh, no, no, we have the protections of the old Constitution
Starting point is 00:23:13 in the old United States. No, no, liberals don't believe in that. They would relitigate that instantly, instantly as they pack the Supreme Court. Finally, one last thing. There's a massive political problem with all of this. For as poorly thought out, Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare are. They are going bankrupt.
Starting point is 00:23:34 There's no question about it. Please read the actuary reports. By 2033, Social Security will be insolvent. There's a 20% benefit cut coming. That's not my opinion. That's a fact. Please look it up yourself. Don't take my word for it. I don't have time to go into it again today. We've gone over
Starting point is 00:23:47 it multiple times. Medicare is in the same boat, excuse me, by 2028. There's going to be a 10% cut in Medicare forcing doctors out of the program. Please look that up. Again, don't take my word for it. Medicaid is going insolvent too. Having said that, established how poorly run these programs are. Can you imagine the political problem politicians in the new united states would find themselves in when a bunch of their senior citizens who are relying on these programs however poorly designed they are are almost instantaneously cut off these aren't the kind of things you could figure out afterwards they're the kind of things you have to think about now.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That's what a national divorce would look like. That's why I think it's a really bad idea. I think Marjorie Taylor Greene understood that too. And I agree with her 100% that a robust federalism with a rapidly shrinking federal government, an expanded state and local power, the original model of the founding fathers. That's the only way to go.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Now, folks, a national divorce would allow us something. A robust sense of federalism would, too. I know I sound really down on the idea because I am, but I can't deny that there would be some pros, too. It would allow us in a new United states constitution to recodify free speech why do we need to recodify it because it's laid out in the original constitution a lot of good it's doing us right let me ask you guys he joe you've been with me the longest you feel like we really have free speech given how much we've been under attack do you really feel like whatever we
Starting point is 00:25:21 can say as long as it doesn't break the law it's's without any penalty whatsoever? Honestly, you feel that way? Honestly, hell no. I know that. Of course you don't. That's right. I know you know that because you've been with me from the beginning. Joe knows the inside story of the practically daily attacks we're under by crazed lunatics on the left whose only goal is to silence us. Now, we practice free speech, but it doesn't mean we have free speech.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It would allow us to codify it. Codify it, excuse me, and to escape the media swamp symbiote I talk about all the time, looking to crush civil liberties, especially free speech. And let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen, there is no better example of the media swamp symbiote than Ann Applebaum. You remember this saying? We talked about Ann Applebaum a couple weeks ago. Now, I don't mean to single her out, but gosh, she is the best example out there
Starting point is 00:26:12 of what the media swamp slash swamp anti-free speech censorship symbiote looks like. She's an elite. She's a pseudo journalist. She's connected to the global cabal she spreads disinformation while censoring people trying to correct her claiming they're the ones spreading disinformation there is no better example why am i bringing her up today because yesterday we broke down the whole lab leak leak and how it was awfully convenient that as a Hunter Biden, Biden Inc. whistleblower came out, all of a sudden a story popped.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, look, a lab leak we already knew about. Seems like kind of a trap to me. Right. Which we discussed yesterday. You can watch that show and we'll go. We laid out all the evidence. This thing's definitely a trap. Well, here was an Applebaum again is a fake news specialist at The Atlantic.
Starting point is 00:27:07 When Tom Cotton came out back in 2020 and said, hey, this looks like a lab leak, man, from this Wuhan coronavirus lab where the Wuhan coronavirus started. Here's pseudo journalist Ann Applebaum. Wow. Just like the Soviet propagandists who tried to convince the world that the CIA invented AIDS. And who is she talking about? Claiming he's a Soviet propagandist? Republican Senator Tom Cotton, who it turns out was right. Remember this gem from Ann Applebaum too? Here's Ann Applebaum.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Again, this divorce would allow us to escape some of these people. Here's the same fake news specialist spreading disinformation, ruthlessly attacking Tom Cotton. Here she is caught on video at this symposium here. She's asked a question about Hunter Biden's laptop, which of course we now know is authentic, and there's evidence of significant malfeasance. Here was her ridiculous answer to that. I'm Daniel Schmidt. I'm a freshman at the University of Chicago. My question is for
Starting point is 00:28:13 Ms. Applebaum. So in 2020, you wrote, those who live outside the Fox News bubble do not, of course, need to learn any of the stuff about Hunter Biden, referring to his laptop, of course. A poll later after that found that if voters knew about the content of the laptop, 16% of Joe Biden voters would have acted differently. Now, of course, we know a few weeks ago, the New York Times confirmed that the content is real. Do you think the media acted inappropriately when they instantly dismissed Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation? And what can we learn from that in ensuring that what we label as disinformation is truly disinformation and not reality? My problem with Hunter Biden's laptop is, I think, totally irrelevant. I mean, it's not whether it's disinformation or, I mean, I don't think the Hunter Biden's business relationships
Starting point is 00:29:01 have anything to do with who should be president of the united states so i i didn't find i don't find it to be interesting i mean that that would be my problem with the that as a as a major news story now i promise there's a point to this why are we bringing up ann applebaum in a discussion of recodifying free speech in a country that's supposed to have a first amendment that protects it, but really doesn't. Because I'm telling you, she is the prototype for the new censorship elite. How they work, how they're connected, and how they spread disinformation. By the way, she's married to a guy that is a card-carrying member of the Global Swamp. Who, by the way, was one of the first ones to thank the United States for the bombing of the Nord Stream pipeline. Remember this story?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Washington Examiner about Wroclaw Sikorski? He's previously held high-level appointments in the Polish government. He's been affiliated with American think tanks. He is the husband of Ann Applebaum, an American journalist and prominent critic of Putin. Oh. It's kind of like the global swamp loves the American swamp, which loves the media, which loves the liberals, which loves to censor people.
Starting point is 00:30:11 They love to censor people. Hell yeah, they do. New York Post, left-wing disinformation group, breaks in cash with a blacklist of conservative news outlets. So the same Ann Applebaum, who fed the conspiracy theory to the world through her attack on Tom Cotton, the conspiracy theory that there's a natural origin to COVID, there isn't, there's no evidence of that. The same Applebaum who says the Hunter Biden laptop story, the biggest scandal of our time is not interesting. The same Ann Applebaum was connected to the global swamp
Starting point is 00:30:44 through Hubs2. Is the same Ann Applebaum on a board of an advisory panel, excuse me, on an advisory panel to the Global Disinformation Index that has a blacklist of conservative websites? You can read it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 You can read it right there. You can read it right there. The group's exclusionary list is compiled with input from members of an advisory panel that includes journalist ann applebaum who dismissed the hunter biden laptop scoop is quote not interesting these are the people censoring you for calling them out joe knows about the blacklist hell yes we've appeared on him many times we have dan you should call him the truthless but doesn't matter to them oh i got more on this because i'm going to tie this whole thing together for you this is just gets even better and how it how it relates to yesterday's
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Starting point is 00:32:54 Policy Genius. We appreciate it. Here's where the story gets even crazier. So again, you got Ann Appleman. I was just picking on her. She's one of many of these people. But she's part of a number of protected groups. The media swamp, the liberal swamp, hubs is part of the global swamp. So they can say whatever they want. We bombed the Nord Stream pipeline, even though they're calling it a conspiracy theory. Hunter Biden's laptop is not even interesting. Don't worry about it. Tom Cotton's a Soviet propagandist for speaking the truth. Everything's A-OK because she's on the board of the Global Disinformation Index that gets to censor us. Now you see why people might want a national divorce. Gabe Kaminsky's been exposing all this, the Global Disinformation Index. He calls it
Starting point is 00:33:40 Disinformation Inc. He notes in this piece this piece again in the newsletter today what a gem that this government-backed group that apparently the state department's been working with tried to punish sites boosting the now we know to be likely true covid lab leak theory here ann applebaum she's on an advisory group to this thing the global disinformation index a british group with two affiliated U.S. nonprofit organizations, has continued to come under fire for feeding conservative news blacklists to advertising companies. This same government-funded entity, that sounds like a First Amendment violation, by the way, repeatedly applied pressure on companies to cut ties with websites,
Starting point is 00:34:20 promoting the once-alleged right-wing conspiracy that COVID-19 emerged from a lab, which the Energy Department recently concluded is probable based on intelligence. You see how the scam works? Now, some of these same swampies, by the way, involved in the global swamp, the media swamp and the liberal swamp who just decades ago. I mean, Joe, you know, the 60s, man Better than love, better than life. I wasn't alive. But you had peace, love, and happiness, and the hippies. I remember they were like, get out of it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 War, man. War. What is it good for? Absolutely. Now they're like, war. It's awesome. Yeah. More war.
Starting point is 00:34:59 It's good for everything. Yeah. I mean, what changed? Amazing. What changed? You like that? Wow. Yeah. no but the change holy cow the flipper the flipper room the flipper yeah it's incredible like the left is now what they consider the old neocon right and now you know whatever the a lot of the neocon folks on the right have many not all many have switched over now to saying,
Starting point is 00:35:25 hey, we're going to take care of the United States first. So you wonder why all these global swampies who are profiting from this massive disinformation machine, profiting from their connections to big business. I thought Republicans were about big business. No, no, the swampies are. That's not us. The Black Rocks of the world, investment firms,
Starting point is 00:35:41 they're all lefties. YouTube, Google, Alphabet, Facebook, these major companies, they're not with us. Why are they so eager to plunge us into World War III, the swampies? So weird, right? Oh, this is, look, it's a great Charlie Gasparino. What an article over at the New York Post. Kind of explains it, no? Oh, look at this. Wall Street has its eyes set on Ukraine. Again, here's my shock face. If it looks like my normal face, it's because it is. So Wall Street has some money-making plans in Ukraine? Get a little bit of devastation. You know how that works. You know, guys level the
Starting point is 00:36:18 place and get a bunch of money people in there. United States funds a whole rebuilding project. Everybody makes a fortune. What a deal. Charlie Gasparino notes that the world's largest money management firm. This is crazy. BlackRock? No. That's so nuts. They continue to hold high-level meetings with Zelinsky?
Starting point is 00:36:39 JP Morgan too? Scoping out the situation? So weird, guys. It's almost like they love this whole state-controlled economy thing. United States, states, gives money to Ukraine and other state. It's a reliable source of proceeds. You don't have to compete in capitalism or anything like that. After the place is devastated, everybody makes money because they just take it from the taxpayers and there's no risk. It's almost like that would be a planned economy and that BlackRock loves that kind of stuff. But it's not like they've actually admitted to that. But he says they have. But he
Starting point is 00:37:15 says they have. He says, I've got this video of Larry Fink actually admiring China and these state planned economies. That's crazy. I don't believe, play, I want to see it myself. Let me check this out. Markets like actually totalitarian governments where you have a understanding of what's out there. And obviously, the whole dimension is changing now with, as you said, a democratization of countries. And democracies are very messy, as we know in the United States, you have opinions changing back and forth. We have a business in China. We are trying to build Chinese savings like we build savings in every other country.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We work with them on retirement. We work with them on trying to build a better future for their citizens by building a retirement market. They own over $2.1 trillion of U.S. securities. The Chinese does. I mean, this is a very interconnected relationship. So this is, let me just get this straight. So BlackRock, you just saw Larry Fink who runs it. He's the CEO, right?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Big lib, huge lib, right? He runs a trillion dollar company, one of the largest investment firms in the world. A company so powerful, it's hard to describe in this show, but just look them up. It's amazing. He's part of the global swamp trying, you know, the global swamp trying to censor all of us for speaking the truth and asking questions about Ukraine. You're not even allowed to ask questions about Ukraine. God forbid you mentioned biolabs or the bombing of the pipeline,
Starting point is 00:38:46 you know, Applebaum's husband, everything. He can say that. You can't. But Larry Fink admits, hey, we've got a lot of money in China. So they make money when the Chinese war machine makes money. The Chinese war machine funds Russia. Guys, if I'm wrong, please stop me if I'm inaccurate at any point. Fink and BlackRock make money funding the China war machine, which funds Russia's destruction of Ukraine, which Fink and his team go and meet with Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Ukraine's leveled. And then they make money rebuilding Ukraine paid for by the taxpayer dollars of the United States in a planned economy because democracy is messy. What a freaking deal, bro. How do we get in on that? That is crazy. Sounds to me like a racket. Gosh, we're missing out. We're so dumb. What are we doing? Investing in stocks and doing entrepreneurship. Idiots.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Should have been like Hunter. He's right. He is a smart. You're right. Clearly smarter than us. Sell access to your dad for money. Pretty guaranteed cash flow there. Entrepreneurship, meritocracy.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Idiots we are. Speaking of Hunter Biden, there's something I said to you a couple of weeks ago. I told you I was speculating at the time, but I was speculating based on my background as an investigator that there was no way the Biden classified documents were just found by surprise, folks. Do you remember the show where I said to you, there's a whistleblower here somewhere. There's no way Biden Inc. just was like, oh, look, we found classified documents.
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Starting point is 00:41:49 source in DC. If I did, I'd tell you. We had a lot of sources on Spygate. But I was guessing based on information because it was simply no way the DOJ and the FBI that are fully in hock to the Biden administration and are just dominated by liberal tyrants right now, the upper levels of both of those organizations. There was no way they were going to initiate an investigation against their master, Joe Biden. I mean, they genuflect in front of him and kiss his ass. And you know Biden's corrupt. So if Biden found classified documents that he would have had to take from the Senate, there's no way he found them because if he took them, Senate, there's no way he found them because if he took them, he knew he took them. How's that,
Starting point is 00:42:34 Joe? Because he took them. So he would know he took them? Is any of this really hard? I was surprised. He was surprised by the documents you took? The story never made sense. So again, this is no victory lap. Hey, look at me. I'm smart. It was just basic speculation that there was obviously some whistleblower here who went to the Department of Justice or the FBI or was roped in in a separate investigation, maybe the McGonigal FBI, when I don't know, who clearly said, I know X, Y, and Z about Biden Inc. It went down on a 302 somewhere, a document, the FBI has to document their interviews, right? And the FBI was in a bad spot because they're like, hey, guys, it's now in writing. This guy's saying there's illegal dealings going on.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I know we'd like to make this thing go away. I mean, it's not Donald Trump. It's Biden. So we want to, you know, rug. Well, here you go. Free beacon. Chuck Ross. Whistleblowers as he gave the DOj damning information on the biden family foreign
Starting point is 00:43:27 business deal apparently the guy's name is gail luft co-director of a washington-based institute for the analysis of global security says he provided information about hunter biden his dad and his uncle to the doj in march of 2019 again it was it was pretty obvious it's not like i you know invented the wheel here and did look at that what a great uh what a great analysis it was it was pretty obvious it's not like i you know invented the wheel here and did look at what a great uh what a great analysis it was obvious there was a whistlebar which says to me the doj and the fbi are in a bad spot and it makes the absolutely hapless kareem john pierre anybody changing their vote no joe still sucks okay kareem john pierre the worst press secretary in the history of the united states not even a close second at this point that made these old kareem john pierre statements
Starting point is 00:44:09 about the documents being a surprise so ridiculous at the time they were any idiot watching this was like she's clearly lying here take a look he had a closet with he classified his lawyers did the right again, again. He was surprised that the records were there. He spoke to this personally. He was surprised that the records were there. Oh, gosh. I mean, really, the level of moron
Starting point is 00:44:37 you have to be to believe that. Oh, look, we found classified documents. We turned him in to do the right thing, right? The guy has zero history of ever doing the right thing in his entire existence on planet Earth. And all of of a sudden he's the law and order guy biden ink please please stop folks what are they hiding what they're hiding i believe i'm going to go to uh miranda divine here this is a very important cut it's from maria bartiromo show it's from a little bit ago about a month ago we played it, but it's important you remember this.
Starting point is 00:45:07 What they may be hiding is not just an influence peddling scheme where Hunter Biden and Biden Inc., the Biden family, were selling access to Joe Biden, the dad, as vice president, as a senator, for money. But there's a possibility, based on Miranda Devine's claims in this, that some of the emails may have information that Hunter Biden may have gotten from classified sources and then trafficked in for money. It would only be probably the biggest political scandal of our time. Here, take a listen yourself. the best indication we have so far that that classified information that Joe Biden so
Starting point is 00:45:47 sloppily, I guess, stored all over, you know, five different locations at his house, in his garage, at his office at the University of Pennsylvania, that that may have gotten into the hands of his son, Hunter Biden, and that Hunter Biden was using it to make himself money with his overseas clients. And that included China, of course, and Ukraine and Russia. Folks, again, it would only be the biggest scandal of our time if that's the case. Now it is the lab leak story, the global swamps efforts to censor us while they make money off a war in ukraine and they all get rich off our backs now does the lab leak leak over the weekend
Starting point is 00:46:34 make sense as the whistleblower story comes out and the fact that the biden family may have been selling access to the former vice president current president and, and a U.S. senator. Again, it's only the biggest political scandal of our time. And it's weird how, as these things come out, we see selectively leaked stories from the Biden administration like, look, there's a lab leak that we knew about three years ago. You know what? Jump ahead to Kirby, quickie. I know I want to get to the Jerry Baker piece. We got time.
Starting point is 00:47:01 But just Kirby yesterday said the most insane thing, too, at the White House. John Kirby, who's their strategic communications director, whatever Kareem Jean-Pierre, who's the worst press secretary in the history of the United States, is faced with some trouble, which is like going out there and answering a question. They trot out Kirby. So the story created a lot of issues for them yesterday. Here's Kirby in one of the most bizarre answers I've ever seen this guy give, where he appears to be defending gain of function research that makes viruses more powerful to kill human beings. It sounds like something that happened with the coronavirus that killed a number of people, which I think we can all agree was a really bad idea. Here's Kirby appearing to defend it. No, I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Listen yourself. Does the president believe that this type of gain of function research is proven? He believes that it's important to help prevent future pandemics, which means he understands that there has to be legitimate scientific research into the sources or potential sources of pandemics so that we understand it so that we can prevent them and we can prevent them from happening, obviously. but he also believes and and and this is why he wants the the whole of government effort here to understand it that that research has to be done it must be done in a safe and secure manner as and as transparent as possible to the rest of the world so that so people know what's going on so i think that's a fancy way of saying yes it's a it's a i don't care if it's a fancy way or not the saying yes part someone that kind of bothers me a little bit these people are nuts now you see why conversations about a national divorce are trending they're like wait wait the federal government wants to do more of this stuff
Starting point is 00:48:57 as if wiping out tens of millions of people wasn't enough this is this is the hubris involved with this centralized government power these anointed ones self-anointed but they really think they're smarter than the rest of us despite body bags piling up everywhere by the way jerry baker who you know i agree with and disagree with he's obviously not a big trump fan but he writes good pieces at the wall street journal and i'm not close-minded to anybody's stuff i enjoy reading his stuff He has an interesting piece up And it's interesting because After yesterday's show it popped on the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 00:49:30 So It popped It was about the exact same topic We were talking about How the government is so completely Unserious and feckless How it's not that government just Is incompetent.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's that they're the cause of almost every problem out there. So Baker, I'm just going to go through a couple. I'm going to read the whole thing. But Baker has this piece called The Trump Grand Jury in the Age of Unseriousness. He's talking about that grand jury for a woman, for a person who is out there on all the talk shows making a fool of herself, right? And he's like, this is just where we are. Like the government can't figure anything out.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He writes, look, the fiscal crisis. He's like, the current budget debate's a case in point. Everyone knows we have a fiscal crisis staring us in the face, everyone. He knows, but any attempt to have a serious discussion is just scotched. Democrats demagogue everything we want to do on entitlements because they know there's no penalty until the whole thing falls apart.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And then the media will do what? Blame Republicans. He talks about critical race theory. Again, how the government is totally unserious, complete buffoonery. He's like, it's a profoundly unserious proposition that rests on the willing suspension of disbelief about history, economics, and society. No serious person who has any credibility with history at all believes the U.S. was founded to preserve slavery. None. Yet we still have grifters pumping this nonsense. He talks about biological sex. This is how unserious he got the government pushing all this crap. The idea that biological sex isn't real.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Surely some future generation will look back and giggle at this. When they discover we have a government that solemnly talks about chest feeding pregnant people or a Supreme court justice who doesn't know what a woman is. This isn't serious folks. Now you see why people are talking about a national divorce? What about climate change? He notes there's this alarmist claptrap that gets thrown at us daily about climate change. He says, listen, you can agree with him. This is real and needs an honest
Starting point is 00:51:36 debate about measures to restrain and remediate, but that would be serious. So instead, we're told the planet's going to burn up and our only option is to reverse millennia of human progress. And our leaders spend the last few years trying to win the approval of an angry Swedish teenager. I just want to throw this one last article in before we bolt, showing you how unserious these people are and how the media swamp symbiote works to keep everything unserious, why they collectivize power and steal away your civil liberties. The climate change portion is a great article in PJ Media by Rick Moran. Former Reuters, I mean, Reuters, card-carrying members of the left, right? Former Reuters editor says he was misled on climate change.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He notes that he had all the access to all the great scientists on climate change. And he says, you know, this is a little known fact, that a close reading of the U.N.'s Intergovernment Panel on Climate Change reports revealed that while 90% of climate scientists agree the climate is warming, far fewer are sure that carbon dioxide, CO2, is the culprit. Really? He noted, my Reuters credentials meant I had easy access to the world's finest climate science, to my amazement. None of these would say categorically
Starting point is 00:52:54 that the link between CO2 and global warming, now known as climate change, was a proven scientific fact. Kind of weird, right? The mediaamp Symbio told us that was all true because they're unserious. They're not serious. They want to destroy our electric grid over a nightmare. It's not even a dreamland. It's a nightmare. All right, folks. I hope you enjoyed the live stream today at 11.
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