The Dan Bongino Show - Who is going to be the VP? (Ep. 2266)

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

The finalists in the race for Donald Trump's VP have been released. In this episode, I present the pros and cons to each person on the list. Judge orders Steve Bannon to report to prison Biden says he won’t pardon Hunter if first son is convicted of gun charges Trump's doc requests reveal VP short list Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino so folks let's do some tough work today this is a necessary show and let me just tell you straight up some of you out there may not like it because people have their favorites in politics and i understand i understand this is a back and forth. Certain people I like because of their good outcomes in politics, outcomes first. Certain people I don't like because they may have led to some bad outcomes. Some people you might like. But let's do some vetting today because now this VP talk is out of control. Everybody's got an idea about who should be the VP, who should be what. We're going to go through some pros and cons. And I promise by the time we're done with this show, you're going to be

like, we nailed it because everybody's got pros and cons. If Donald Trump, and he has not, by the way, at all, asked me to be VP, I would tell you, here are the pros, here are the cons. Believe me, there are a lot of cons. And I tell you, because this is too important a job. So we're going to do this today. And this is going to be the definitive guide to who the hell could be the VP. But Donald Trump makes the call. Hot damn Bongino. That should have been right.

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Because I'm demanding investigations into what I believe to be massive breaches of the law and the conspiracy to interfere in the election to take down Donald Trump. Having said that, the VP is all over the news lately. Here was an NBC News report. We'll get right to it. Keep in mind, again, for the third time, I think in this show, maybe second doesn't matter. If NBC is saying it, it's probably bullshit. However, they're saying they have sources, whatever, that there are now four people who have been that's been narrowed down. Who could be the possible VP in a Trump administration? Listen to this tonight. The battle to be former President Trump's running mate heating up and the field narrowing.

Sources tell NBC News Trump's shortlist of VP candidates have recently received vetting materials. And four men have emerged as this year's possible Veepstakes top contenders. Two sources say Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum and Florida Senator Marco Rubio are on the list. And one source says Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina is as well. You don't hear it from Trump himself. I'm not sure I believe it. However, I think only an idiot would say, wouldn't you guys agree that those four probably aren't on the short list?

Why? Because Donald Trump has said it. He said it openly in public that these people are being considered for spots in the administration and you got to believe, given their stature, that the spot is likely vice president or something different.

So folks, before we go through the pros and cons of each one, I just want to get this out there in advance. Everybody ready? I don't want anyone misinterpreting my words. On my life, if it was me, I'd tell you the same thing. The pros, here's the pros of Dan Bongino. Run for office before, even though I wasn't successful,

understand campaigns, know how to raise money, love public speaking, passionate about conservatism. The cons, I say fuck a lot. Probably not a good thing, but I've been tweeting for a long time. I'm a pretty passionate guy. And no, that's not one of those compliments disguised as an insult kind of thing, or insults disguised as a compliment or whatever. Everybody has pros and cons. This stuff is going to come out. So I'm actually trying to do these guys a favor by getting ahead of it because when you're vetted, of course,

you're only going to tell the candidate the good stuff. So let's go through at least those four, and I'm going to throw in a few others who I think are on the short list. And I'm just guessing. No one in the Trump team has told me anything. I want to be clear about that. I'm going to throw in Ben Carson, Elise Stefanik, Tulsi Gabbard, Nikki Haley, Byron Donalds, and let's throw the wild card in Ron DeSantis. Just throw them all

in there. I love Ron DeSantis as governor. There's a lot of ill will there. Put all that aside. It's not about emotion. None of this is personal. So let's get to it. Let's start number one with a guy who the media seems obsessed with lately as the VP, and I don't mean that in a good way. Doug Bergram, governor of North Dakota. What are the pros of Doug Bergram? Well, Doug Bergram has a really, really amazing business history, knows a ton about business, reasonably successful governor, seems to have a good, you know, a good grasp of politics

and getting to understand people in the back and forth. Business owner. He talks the part. He acts the part. He looks the part. You know, there's no doubt about that. He's got a pretty good personality that contrasts with President Trump. I think what you want in a candidate is you want a reflection of Doug Berber. Look at these guys. See, these guys are great. I said to me, I said, guys, I don't want to hand the elements. You guys do your own thing. You know, you guys are talented.

So his governor was an upset, wealthy software entrepreneur, supports fossil fuels and carbon capture. Good deal, right? You know, he signed one of the nation's strictest abortion bans. This is the New York Times, of course, going after this guy. Now, this is the New York Times. So here are some of the cons of Doug Burgum. He's a relatively small state governor.

There's nothing wrong with that. I'm just giving you the facts. He's also from a state that is most likely to vote for Donald Trump. Justin, what do you think Donald Trump's going to win North Dakota by? 97 points? Maybe 98. Justin's like round up a little bit. He's a major downside.

He's not a no. Yes. See, these guys are beating me to the punch. This is brilliant. I had this written down right here. I'm not even kidding. Look. He's not really a known commodity.

So if you believe that the VP has the potential to sway a few swing votes here and there, Doug Bergman's probably not going to be the guy because not many people know who he is. Not an insult. It's just true. Look at his national name idea, okay? Also, candidly, he was not that great on the culture wars and some of the COVID stuff. Bergman, it's going to come out. I'm just saying.

Okay? Pros and cons. He is, however, a good foil to Donald Trump, and I mean that in a nice way. Sometimes different personalities gel together and they do really well. Wouldn't you agree? All right, let's try another one. Let's go to Tim Scott. This is it.

This is your ultimate guide to VP vetting. We should sell this. Tim Scott. This is it. This is your ultimate guide to VP vetting. We should sell this. Tim Scott, here's the pros. Tim Scott's got a great backstory. No question about it. Guy busted his ass. He's definitely was a middle-class guy growing up. No one's going to question that Tim Scott's experienced the scourge of racism, the whole DEI crowd. It doesn't matter. They'll call him an Uncle Tom and all kinds of nasty bullshit anyway. But he's definitely got a killer backstory. Here's another big pro on Tim Scott. This is huge. Business people really, really like Tim Scott. I deal with a lot of business people, a lot of these high-end business folks. I'm not buddies with them. We don't go out for coffee clutches. But when you go to events, you run into them and funding events and stuff like that.

And you meet a lot of them really, trust me, folks, really like Tim Scott. Why does that matter? Well, a lot of these business people are financing lobby groups and they're also financing campaigns. So to get a guy that the business community likes, you know, we shouldn't be reflexively anti-business. I mean, we are still capitalists, right? They really love this guy. Here's another thing too. He's a really good speaker in public. Sometimes he can be a little dry, but he definitely gets his point across Tim Scott. And I'll say again,

like the identity politics game, it's going to be really hard to call Tim Scott a racist. Does anybody know why? Anybody have any idea why? Oh, he's black. It's going to be really hard to call him a racist. Tim Scott hates black people. Really? Well, it's true. Isn't there an article out there? Tim Scott is a racist or somebody white is a new face. Was that about Tim Scott? Yeah, Larry Elder. That's right. Larry Elder was like the new face of white supremacy. Okay, let me rewind that because you guys are right. Let's just say it'll make it a little bit harder among sane people. Yes, liberals will say whatever they want. Liberals will say crazy

shit like Tim Scott's a white supremacist Ku Klux Klan member. We get it. But sane people are going to obviously realize that's total bullshit. Okay. So wait, we got through two. Let's get through a couple more. Marco Rubio, again, NBC, NBC saying Rubio is one of the finalists. One of the pros to Rubio, again, great backstory, you know, unquestionably appeals to, you know, Miami voters and Florida voters in a swing state. Miami voters and Florida voters in a swing state. Another guy who's a really good speaker, solid debater, not great debater, but a solid debater. Also, Rubio, if you're old enough to remember like me, I don't know if you guys are old enough, but he's one of the original Tea Party

guys. Him defeating Charlie Crist down here in Florida for the Senate seat was a huge upset. Having said that, Rubio, there's some cons too, okay? The Barack Obama era amnesty thing, he's attached to that. It's just, it's going to happen. It's going to come up. Can he say, I evolved on the issue? People evolve on issues all the time. Is it necessarily, you know, fatal for Rubio?

I don't think so. But, however, he's going to have to explain that. Another con, he's from the same state as Donald Trump. There are a number of workarounds from that, but there's some constitutional issues, the VP and the presidential nominee being from the same state. So

it's not fatal at all, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. Also, there are some big issues surrounding Rubio and what happened during the Spygate stuff. Folks, when Spygate went down in a Mueller investigation, I got to tell you personally, I was very disappointed in Rubio. I thought he should have taken a stronger stand. He had the ability on some of these committees to really nail these people to the wall. And some people think he kind of took a bit of a backseat. You know, again, is this stuff fatal for a vice presidential nominee? You know, I don't know. Again, you guys tell me your opinion. I'm just giving you the

pros and cons. It's my job. You guys are going to ultimately make your pick. I'm going to tell you something. The Trump team really cares what you have to say. It's one of the benefits of having a presidential nominee who doesn't flip you the double-barreled middle finger. So what you say online about these candidates is going to matter. Now, these are the top four. So we have Bergman, Tim Scott, Rubio, and Vance, again, according to NBC, okay? I'm a little biased with this last one, J.D. Vance. I'm an Italian advance. I am trying to be objective here, but it's hard because I really like J.D. Vance a lot. I think J.D. Vance would be the best pick for the vice president.

My opinion, you are welcome to yours. That's a great part about a constitutional republic, the back and forth exchange. We all have freedom of speech. Express your opinion. Let me know in the chat. I like J.D. Vance a lot. Here are some of the pros of J.D. Vance. He's young. I believe he's only 39. How old is he? Can you guys look? I'm not even sure he's 40 yet. So I like the fact that he's young and kind of 39. Thank you, Michael. So 39 years old. The guy is a really fantastic debater.

years old. The guy is a really fantastic debater. His resume is second to none. What's that? A master? You got to say those words slow. He just did it right. He wants to know if he's a master debater. If you don't delay between those two words, you're in a lot of trouble. There are some words you can't say together. If someone asks if you saw something, you can't say, I did not see it. Say it fast and you'll see what I mean. You can't say these words master. I would say he's a master debater, like a Jedi level debater. You see him on TV. He's fantastic. I believe he's a lawyer, was a Marine, served this country. Resume really second to none. You're not going to see a better, you may see as good, but you're not going to see a better resume. Here's another thing I like about J.D. Vance and why I think he'd be great.

Having grown up in a really poor portion of America and seeing his town hollowed out, he understands this new populist wing of the Republican Party. And that's always used as a pejorative populist, meaning the way you talk about like Taylor Swift's music is popular. Like, yeah, only idiots like Taylor Swift. You get what I'm saying? Well, they may be idiots, but she's making a billion dollars a year. Clearly she's tapped into something, whether you like her or hate her. I mean, I'm not a huge Taylor Swift fan, obviously, but you get the point. J.D. is tapped into something. You can hate it.

You can laugh at him. You can scoff at him, but he seems to understand the struggles of middle America. That's why he won in a freaking landslide in Ohio. Here's the con. And these are big ones. These are the cons. And it pains me to say it because I really liked this guy, but there's just going to be an experience issue there. It's going to be brought up and he has to have an answer for it. He's a first term senator. You know, you could I mean, I hate to I'm not making the comparison. Don't take this the wrong way. But and he shouldn't bring this up. But it's true. I mean, the Democrats are going to have a tough time attacking him. Barack Obama was, you know, a first term U.S. senator. Yeah, he'd been a state senator before. But so Democrats are like,

you guys kidding me? Like, that's such a bullshit, stupid line. You know what you, you know, your Messiah was a first term Senator. I wouldn't bring it up because you don't want to compare yourself to Obama, but you get the point. And one of the cons is actually one of the pros. He's young. He's younger than me. I mean, I'm 10 years older than J.D. Vance. That's insane. How the hell am I 10 years older than J.D. Vance? That's not even real. That's like the weird, I'm 49 years old. He's 39. So some people could attack him. I think it's a benefit, but I could see some people attacking him as a con. All right. Let's go to a couple more. I'm not going to go in such detail with them because these are the top four, again, at least according to NBC, big grain assault there. You get the point.

Another name I've heard brought up is Byron Donalds. Byron Donalds, congressman from Florida District 19. Great, great backstory. Awesome on school choice. Family's been fighting for school choice forever. Another guy who, though, would have an experience issue. He's only been in Congress for a couple of terms. Also young as well. My opinion about Byron Donalds, I think Byron Donalds would be the most amazing secretary of education you've ever seen. Folks, I'm giving you some inside baseball, but him and his family have a deep body of experience with school choice. They would be freaking bananas as a department of secretary of Education. Insane.

I mean, off the charts good. Donald's would be amazing. He knows so much about this. I know it's not because I love him too. I'd like to see him as governor of Florida personally. But having said that, that seat is safe, Florida 19. How do I know about Florida 19? Anybody know?

Because I ran there and got my ass kicked there in Florida. I know the district well. No Democrat is going to win that seat. He could go be secretary of education for two years, three years, build up his resume, come back, and he could run for president. I mean, Byron Donalds, he's that good. He's that talented of a politician. Of course, you got Elise Stefanik. I think she's going to have a name ID issue big time if she runs. Not the best conservative voting history either. However, she's been a bit of a

fireball up on Capitol Hill lately. Tulsi Gabbard, I think, is a no-go. I'm just going to throw that out. I like Tulsi Gabbard very much. She served the country. She's a very nice lady. I met her a couple of times. She's always been super kind to me. None of this is personal. However, Tulsi Gabbard was a Democrat and was a Democrat for a long time. We need a conservative out there. We have enough good Republican options. This is not a personality contest, folks. And I'm sorry. It's going to be very nice, but that's out. Nikki Haley, way too much bad blood there. I'm sorry. She could have a spot in the administration. way too much bad blood there. I'm sorry. She could have a spot in the administration. I don't know, maybe secretary of state if Donald Trump and her can smoke the peace pipe, whatevs.

But no, I don't see a VP. And I'll throw one more in there and we'll move on. Ron DeSantis. Ladies and gentlemen, it'd be crazy not to consider him for something. He's got a loyal following. He's been a conservative governor. If they can, again, put all their differences aside, DeSantis, a total outsider pick. I don't think it would be VP. But Secretary of Defense, I don't think you'd find a better guy out there. And I'll tell you what, I'd like to see Mike Lee as Attorney General.

That's my pick for Attorney General. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. That's the ultimate VP vetting guide. Now, again, could Trump come out with a total wild card? Some business person you've never seen before? He could. And unless I hear it from the insiders in the Trump campaign, I don't believe anything I hear from NBC.

All right, I'll let you all stew on that. Remember that old Saturday Night Live thing with the coffee clutch? You guys go ahead and think about that for a little bit. I'm going to take a quick break. Here's what I got on the other side of this break. This is what you're running against. He did it again yesterday, Biden. And I'm calling serious bullshit on something he put out in an interview yesterday.

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Folks, this is what you're running against. We have no choice but to win this election. If Joe Biden were to win, number one, the border would be finished. We wouldn't have a country left. You'd have 40, 50 million people in the country who don't belong here. It would be open season. The border would completely evaporate. Forget it.

It would be nuts. Look at this guy. You think this guy's going to make it four and a half more years, gets out of the car yesterday up in France. And I want you to watch this. How many times I got to tell you, I did this for a living. This guy's given detailed instructions on what to do. He doesn't know what to do. He pops out of the car and he's sitting there in this fugue state, like he's always in. And he doesn't know what to do because he's lost. They give him a, and not only that, right before he got out of his car.

You see that guy? He's the boss. The guy to his right. He's a good man. I'm not going to tell you his name, obviously. The person holding the door is the number one whip. Go back to that video again. Play it again.

I'm going to walk you through this. The number one whip is the rank and file agent who's kind of the most senior person that day who supervise in the op. So she's she's holding the door to make sure he doesn't back into the door. They do it for everyone. That's not new to Biden. It's holding the corner of the door. So nobody kind of splits their head open on the door. But he's given a briefing by his staff in the car and maybe even by the boss there to the right. What are you supposed to do? Look, the guy has no idea.

He gets out of the car. He was just told probably 10 seconds before that door opened, bro, here's what you're going to do. You're going to walk out of the car. Look at the guy has no freaking idea. Folks, this is not funny, okay? I know we put these clips up and, you know, we laugh about it sometimes. It's so ridiculous. But this is real. This is the freaking commander in chief. The guy's mental capacity is that of seriously like a seven-year-old right now. He was just told what to do. And he's looking around like a space cadet.

and he's looking around like a space cadet. He may leave office, by the way. He may leave office if he wins again. As a matter of fact, I think what they're hoping for, this is my theory, you take it, you leave it, this is the Dan Bongino theory, is if Joe Biden wins, I think he serves, say, another year or so. God forbid any of this happens. And you guys,

remember I said this. So flag that sucker and write it down because I'm telling you, if you, well, I don't even want, because if he wins, I don't even want to know. It'd be a different show. He serves a year, does the craziest, nuttiest liberal stuff imaginable, locks up a bunch of conservatives, 60 FBI on everyone, completely opens the border, destroys voting rules in the country. He's going to do all of that. And he leaves office after a year and Kamala Harris takes over. He is not leaving office, however, if his son Hunter's convicted in this ongoing case. He is absolutely not leaving office without pardoning him. Here's the New York Post headline. Biden says if he won't pardon Hunter, says he won't pardon Hunter if the first son is convicted of gun charges. He is absolutely going to pardon him before he leaves.

And if he loses, I will be stunned if he doesn't. On one condition, on one condition, let me throw a caveat in there. One, I think Hunter's going to get off because it's going to be jury nullification. Got to be careful with that, Hunter getting off. As you well know, that can mean a lot of different things, okay? It's a family for which, well, sometimes. That's what we're trying. Here's what he'll do.

He'll wait to see what the sentence is. If the sentence is some kind of community service thing, he's not going to pardon him. If the sentence is any significant jail time at all, I'll throw that caveat in there. 100% he pardons. There is zero chance he lets his son go to jail. Zero.

Because, you know, and for those of you out there thinking, oh, why, Dan, what are you saying? He's some nice father and he would suffer if his son go to jail. Zero. Because, you know, and for those of you out there thinking, oh, why? Why, Dan, what are you saying? He's some nice father and he's he would he would suffer if his son was in jail. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. He doesn't want his son flipping on him. I need you all to remember this. I've told you this for two, three years now. The reason Biden's pretending to be this good dad looking out over his kid is because he doesn't want his kid to flip on him and say how deeply his dad was involved in the business operation and the influence peddling scheme. That's it. Attribute nothing more than mercenary motives to Joe Biden. And you will always be correct. You in any way thinking Joe Biden always a good daddy.

He doesn't want to. He would suffer so much if he sees his father and his son in jail. Bullshit. That is not at all what he cares about. He doesn't want his son to flip on him because that would be the end of the whole thing. And his family and his surrogates, ladies and gentlemen, are no better. No better. Let me take a quick break, but there's a damning, Let me take a quick break, but there's a damning, damning segment on Piers Morgan. And folks, this is not the most, it's not long. It's about a minute.

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Folks, this is a really, really disturbing video here. Hunter Biden's baby's mother, the baby, the girl, Navy, who the family refuses to recognize and is treated horribly in one of the most disgusting episodes I've ever seen. If this doesn't show you and demonstrate to you fully what I've been warning you about, about the Bidens, it's not that they're bad character, folks. There are a lot of bad actors in politics, and sometimes there can be some good outcomes. Politics attracts bad people. But folks, there are levels of bad people. Can we all agree on that? There's white liars. There's like then serial murderers. So there's levels of malfeasance. These are really garbage people. Hunter Biden's never met his daughter. Watch the way the mom talks about this on Piers Morgan.

Like it's nobody. He's never met his daughter, but the the mom talks about this on piers morgan like it's nobody he's never met his daughter but the child is five years old oh they do a zoom call or something what watch this she's now five um do you do you have plans for them to actually physically meet um yeah i'm sure me and hunter haven't worked the details out with that but i mean like the world knows hunter has a lot on his plate right now and so um i think that that needs to be his main focus and and getting through this time and then the rest can come after and and you know navy navy's well aware she knows that her father's very very busy right now, and he's got a lot of things going on. And she's waited five years. She can wait a couple more months.

You know, my whole crew is here, Michael, Justin, he, and we're all. Michael's like, I couldn't wait to see this video air because it's. I think we're all sitting here stunned. I couldn't wait to see this video air because I think we're all sitting here stunned. He's never met his five-year-old daughter in five years. Listen, this is not a reflection on the mom, okay? I get what she's trying to do there. I understand.

Folks, I have two daughters. Now, listen, I'm not sure I'm ever going to win any father of the year myself, okay? I don't put myself on any kind of pedestal, and I'm certainly not going to write a book about fatherhood. But for all my struggles, and we've been through a lot, I haven't always been the best at a lot of things. I was an agent for 12 years. My oldest daughter, Isabel,

you know, was a young, young girl when I was on the president's detail for five years. Folks, I was on the road probably 280 to 300 days a year traveling around on advances with the president. Remember, when he goes on a trip, if you're on the advance team, you're there two weeks before he gets there. You do two advances back to back, you're gone the whole month. When I came home, my daughter was number one.

When I came home, my daughter was number one. Number one. when I came home my daughter was number one number one I lived in a neighborhood called Stewart's Landing in in Maryland nice neighborhood middle class neighborhood and it was a little park and I would take my daughter to the park and I push her on the swing and I would take my daughter to the park I've got these great videos of me and her playing. She can barely do basketball. The basketball's too heavy for her. She can't even get it to the rim. But it doesn't matter. I was there. And those are priceless memories. Now, my youngest daughter's been luckier because I get to work close to home. And so she sees me a lot more. Five years, man, you've never met your kid. Not fault in this woman at all. This woman's been a victim

of this predatory family. But I want you to understand these people come from bad, awful stock. I understand Hunter Biden's not running for president, his dad is. But remember, you guys remember this? It was his dad who said Hunter Biden, what did he say? He was like the finest guy he knows or something. Really? Smartest guy he knows. Five years, folks. All the dads out there. Can you imagine? Serious question. I'm not messing with you, brothers and sisters, but brothers in this case, because we know the difference between male and female. Is there any scenario outside of prison or being sent to the phantom zone like Superman 2, where five years go by and you don't see your son or daughter? I think you know the answer. My father likes it. You're damn right. He's exactly who he learned these lessons from.

You're going to vote for more of this? You can knock Donald Trump all you want. I've met his kids, all of them. And they have amazing personalities. I'll tell you something right now. This is not a whole look. I don't know anyone. I forget.

Who cares? I'm telling you for the purpose of this segment. I could do it to you right now on the show if I wasn't trying to be like the gamer. I text Eric Trump or Donald Trump right now and say, hey, I need a favor. 10 seconds they get back to you if they're not doing something.

Every single time. Tiffany and Ivanka too. They will do anything for you. Great kids. I guarantee you it hasn't been five years since they've seen their kids. Oh, yeah, and Donald Trump's the bad guy. Whatever, man. This is him and his surrogates.

This is who this guy is. It's not just his family. Again, it's his surrogates, too. Why am I bringing up surrogates? Because this clown got this guy elected. You know who Jim Clyburn is? He's a congressman from South Carolina. Jim Clyburn, make no mistake, Joe Biden is president only because of James Clyburn.

That is it. How? I don't remember that. You better remember it because it happened. Bernie Sanders, Bloomberg, he was getting his ass kicked, Biden. Biden got smoked in the early caucus and primary states when he was running in 2020 because he's a goon. That's why. And a loser. And because the centrist flank, what was left of it, of the Democrat Party was so afraid. Do you remember this,

of Bernie Sanders getting the nomination because they knew Trump would smoke him? They had to go rescue Joe Biden. So Jim Clyburn went out and made this big racial appeal to have voters save Joe Biden in the state of South Carolina. That's the only reason this guy is president. So Clyburn feels married to this guy now. So he goes on with Cavuto yesterday. I mean, Cavuto's no big Trump guy. Can we all get that? And Cavuto just smokes him.

Cavuto asks him a simple question. This is what you're running on, like paying off people's student loans with other people's money? I want you to listen to the answer. Because if there's ever an interview that so describes the shit bird left and all the lies they tell you, this is it. He asked him a simple question. Hey, Congressman, who's paying for all this stuff? I want you to listen to his answer. This is what you get when you vote for Libs who clearly believe there's a money fairy out there. Check this out. What has happened in the last four years on student debt, for instance, Joe Biden has eliminated just in public service student loan debt alone,

over $60 billion for people saddled with student loan debt. And who's paying for that, Congressman? It's all well and good, but who's paying for it? debt. And who's paying for that, Congressman? It's all well and good, but who's paying for it? What do you mean who's paying for it? Who's paying for that? No, who's paying for that debt relief? Who's doing it? Nobody is paying for that relief. Justin, you're in college, right? You're the smartest one. Justin's the smartest one. He's in college now. He's learning. He's learning. His brain's expanding.

Allegedly. He wants to know if that's what happens in college. Have you ever heard of a situation like that? Where nobody's paying for something, yet everybody's getting money. Have you ever heard of anything like that? Because you're getting money, right? Like you go to college, right? Have you met a janitor, a teacher's assistant, a professor, an administrator,

or like the electric company providing electric to the campus that's not getting paid? Have you met them yet? You have not? Okay. You have not. So it's not a commune. People are getting paid. So where's the money coming from, Justin?

Any ideas? Not the money fairy. Not the money fairy. So somebody's paying for it. So I'm asking people out there, please don't be stupid if you're a lefty. This guy is lying to your face. The answer is taxpayers are paying for it. They're giving the government money, which the government is stealing,

to then go give to colleges to pay for someone else's education so they can make more money at your expense. That's exactly what's happening here. Who's paying for it? Nobody. I have never seen a clip so sum up the canoe left more than that one. He really thinks you, it's not even, it's not that Clyburn's dumb. Clyburn's not dumb. He's not. Again, it may give you some temporary kind of adrenaline burst. He's not dumb. He thinks you're dumb. That's the problem.

He thinks you're stupid. They're panicking, by the way, too. They know what's up. By the way, I have to give you a quick update. I didn't bruise, but you can get a little hold on it. So I had blood work done. You know, I'm terrified of blood work. I get it and make fun of me all you want. I deserve it. I can usually take a decent amount

of pain. I'm not like some UFC fight or anything, but not blood. I hate it. I had to get like 22 gallons of blood taken yesterday because I do all these various tests and everything like that. And I took another one of those gallery grail cancer things. So we'll see how that goes. I've got two negatives in a row, which is awesome. But I was sitting there yesterday and I'm doing it. And the lady's like, man, every time it's always you big dogs, like every single time. She's like, it's never like the five foot one dude who's like a buck 20. He comes in. He's like, yeah, man, stick that cannula in there. Suck that blood out like a vampire. She's like, I get these like bodybuilders and boxers and like door kickers in here. And they're like, I can't look, man.

I can't look. I can't make me think of a, put some music on or something. That's me. That's me. I was sitting there yesterday like this. I swear it was an unintentional flex there. I promise. Look at me.

I'm sitting there. I'm like, I can't even look. I can't watch this. And the fact that it had to go on forever. I'm like, can we just get, is there like a super vacuum? You just suck it all out at once or something. I was freaking out, but I made it. I made it. Dan, you sound like you're being overly dramatic from, I am. I totally get it. Chat, you are welcome to poke fun at me all you want. I actually enjoy it because I deserve it. That's why I tell you these stories. All right, back to the serious stuff. I had to give

you an update. Actually, a bunch of people asked me about it. How did it go? Okay. I walked out of there in one piece. It's all right. I just walked through a torture chamber or something like that. They're panicking, brothers. They are panicking. They so know what's up. I had Julie Kelly on my radio show yesterday, who is the best. We love her. We absolutely love Julie Kelly. Stand with her 100%. One of the best reporters out there. And we were talking about something I mentioned on the podcast yesterday, and it was the takeaway. And I hope you remembered it. Brain tattoo, brain tattoo. These people who did this, Spygate, the Mueller probe, these people who put together the fake impeachment, number one, fake impeachment, number two,

Fannie Willis, the Jack Smith, the Alvin Bragg thing, all of the cabal, the deep state cabal we discussed at length yesterday who did this. Folks, their biggest fear is not being put in jail. I know that sounds weird. I'm not telling you they want to go to jail. They don't. The Comeys, the Clappers, they don't. But that's not their fear. They'll come out of jail. They'll maybe do a month.

And I promise you they'll get a $10 million book deal and a show on MSNBC. They're not really worried about that. They are worried about an investigation uncovering the paperwork that'll prove for the history books that these scumbags and these 51 intelligence officials that wrote that letter about the laptop, they are really afraid that if the Republicans ever take a long term or term control of government and the culture, that they are going to go down as history, as history's biggest dogs. They're going to go down as the Skeletors in the He-Man comic. That's it. And that's what

they're afraid of. This is why right now, every single narrative, every single day, just go to Political Playbook, Washington Post, New York Times today, all the left-wing outlets, they are terrified of us starting investigations into their potential criminality the minute we get in there. And that's another reason we should do it. Right as I was putting the show together yesterday, I subscribed to the New York Times email list. Why? Because I want to see what these crazies are talking about. This popped up. The GOP push for post-verdict payback. They want to fight fire with fire. You're damn freaking right we do. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe it was Michael Anton. If it's not, forgive me, but he's got this line.

The only way the left is going to learn to stop doing this, the only way, is if we impose upon them real material losses. Finances, freedom, but most important, reputation. You need to get in their heads for a second. These guys think they're the good guys. These guys think they're the good guys. They're convinced they're the good guys. They think they're fighting some Adolf Hitler-like figure. I know it's stupid. I get it.

I get it. Just think like a moron for a second. I know it's hard to do because you're not a lefty. But for a second, dump 20 IQ points. They believe they're fighting Hitler. If you really thought Hitler, I mean, demonic figure in human history, right? We all get it. There's that old, you know, if you could go back and take out Hitler at 21, you know, would you do it and save all these lives? Forget about the butterfly effect for a minute and all the other complicated stuff.

But most people would be like, my gosh, that would be just an amazing opportunity to wipe this stain of history out early. This is what they think they're doing. Do you understand that? This is how they justify everything like this, this Fox News report. Steve Bannon going to prison. How the hell is Steve Bannon going to prison? Hey, can we go out of order a little bit, that Eric Holder thing? Put that right. I got an Eric Holder. This is how insane these people are.

I want you to understand what you're dealing with. You're thinking through this logically. You're thinking through this logically like, oh, my gosh, how could you sacrifice democracy to try to save democracy? Sounds like George W. Bush when he's like, we got to scrap capitalism to save capitalism during the recession. No, that doesn't work. That's not how any of this works.

That's how you prolong the disaster. They really believe what they're doing is morally correct. I know it's insane. I know these people are evil and demonic. But listen, you want to talk about a lack of self-awareness? Listen to this appearance by Eric Holder on, was it CNN? This is just the other day. He's talking about the Trump ruling and all this other stuff

and what happens if Republicans get into office and how, oh my gosh, they may weaponize the justice system to go after their enemies. Keep in mind the entire time, Eric Holder defied a congressional subpoena like Steve Bannon and Eric Holder is on CNN doing hits while Steve Bannon is going to report to jail soon. Total lack of self-awareness here at all. But this is a mirror into their souls. Watch this. If the president told a compliant attorney general, I don't like what this congressman said about me or did about me, did to me over the course of the last two, three years, whatever, open an investigation on that person.

That attorney general could tell a compliant United States attorney to do just that. director who could be replaced by the president, to open an investigation, and then to just look through that person's life and look for anything that you possibly can find. And who's to say what you find in any person's life that might run afoul of the law? And even beyond that, the mere fact of an investigation of a person who is a public figure can be reputation ruining, can be politically damaging, not even if you find anything, just the fact that the investigation itself exists. And if you've got the full weight of the Justice Department, the full weight of the presidency, the full weight of the FBI focusing on somebody like that, that can be extremely damaging

to not only that person individually, but to our democracy writ large. to not only that person individually, but to our democracy writ large. Holy shit. Is this guy... Is this guy living on Krypton? I get it, you're laughing, maybe crying at this. I totally understand. But do you see this guy that makes a world of sense?

He really believes he's on the right side of this. Fast and furious guy. They targeted the IRS. Remember in the Obama administration, opened the borders, engaged in all kinds of different malfeasance with the VA. This guy's disgusting. He's garbage. He's been fighting for racial gerrymanders to destroy the power of the people. The one man, one vote principle defied a congressional subpoena. He's actually describing the Biden's attorney general's office right now. And yet with no sense of fear or worry at all that he'll be mocked. He's on a show discussing weaponizing the Justice Department as if it's

not happening right now. This is a window into the soul of these people. The reason we play these clips is so critical that you understand what we're dealing with. They are not going to learn back to what I told you a second ago about Anton's real material losses principle. You think you're going to logic your way out of this with this guy? What are you going to do? Write him a letter? Send him an email? Write an op-ed in the Washington Post?

He's not listening to me or you. He will listen to reputational damage if he's exposed for being a part of the cabal to take out Donald Trump in the conspiracy to steal an election. If there's an investigation into him and there's jail time at the end, he ain't going to like it. But they're worried about their reputations. Please, trust me on that. I got a few more good videos for you on a Friday. Well, one's bad, one good. But it just goes to show you again what we're fighting.

Folks, you've seen it over and over again. This stuff is really bad. Oh, by the way, yeah, throw this up. This is the Julie Kelly thing. I'm sorry. This is Julie Kelly found over again. This stuff is really bad. Oh, by the way, yeah, throw this up. This is the Julie Kelly thing. I'm sorry. This is Julie Kelly found this out here. This is crazy, folks. You want to see how bad our justice system has been weaponized?

That thing you have up on the prompter now. Just look at this for a second if you're watching on Rumble. You want it? This is how freaking crazy the country is right now. So what are the reasons they want to throw Steve Bannon in jail for defying the congressional subpoena, this is some third world bullshit right here. Look at the highlights. The great Julie Kelly found this. Throughout the prosecution of Bannon, as described above, Bannon has leveraged his media platform, probably talking about War Room, to mock members of the committee through offensive

name calling and deride the committee's investigation through rhetoric that risks inspiring violence and ridicules the justice system through hyperbole. What the f... This is some Kim Jong-un shit. So now, again, just to be clear, Donald Trump is gagged. You charge Steve Bannon with another made-up crime that Eric Holder's on TV bragging about. But if Steve Bannon goes on his show, War Room, and makes fun of these idiots for the police state, they're going to use it as a reason to imprison him

and then write it down? Michael said, name-calling, folks. Sorry, folks, this is many days in a row, but it doesn't want to stand up. Even it's embarrassed. They're putting this down in writing now. Don't you name call the regime the regime. Throw your ass right in jail.

Here's some more crazy shit we're dealing with. You hear this story in Connecticut. If you're a Connecticut voter, by the way, how are you still voting blue? They've destroyed that state. Democrats have decimated the state of Connecticut. It used to be a refuge for people looking to get away from the New York crazy. They moved to Connecticut. I remember growing up. Now it's become almost as crazy as New York. Police officers killed a trooper in Connecticut. So the blue line flag, which honors the heroes of law enforcement, blue line flag. There's nothing controversial about it. If you're not a dipshit, this little town in

Connecticut decided, yeah, we're not going to lower it to half staff, the blue line flag. We're going to lower the pride flag. No, no, this is not a Babylon Bee story. This is real. No, no, this is not a Babylon Bee story. This is real. Libs at TikTok had this out on her account. Chaya, this is just absolutely disgusting. Check this out. It was a pride ceremony today at Wethersfield Town Hall,

Governor Lamont in attendance. The flagpole at the center of the controversy. At last night's council meeting, Councilor Rich Bailey requested the town fly the American Blue Line the american honor of TFC Aaron politi of duty. Town council vot does the blue line flag m racism and antagonism to And even if you don't per

you fly it at your own ho it means something to you positive. It's just not h feel about it. It's not appropriate to raise over our town hall, especially when our flag policy prohibits us from doing anything associated with hate. Who said they're trying to provoke people? Is that you, Michael?

A hundred percent. Folks, just like the Julie Kelly thing, the documents about Bannon I just showed you, I want you to understand what he just said is a hundred percent spot on. They're just trying to provoke you now. documents about Bannon I just showed you, I want you to understand what he just said is 100% spot on. They're just trying to provoke you now. They're waiting for a violent response. Do not give it to them. Do not fear assembling. Don't let anybody tell you, oh, don't show up there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Your right to assemble is God given. No, no, no, no. But they want a

violent response. Do not give it to them under any circumstances because that is going to be their predicate for a massive crackdown. That's why they're doing this. They're poking. Imagine this is a stick and not a gavel. They're poking, they're poking, they're poking, they're poking. What is it? Justin said, what are they going to do?

Fold up the pride flag and give it to the... I mean, are you serious? It's just disgusting stuff. However, it is Friday. So I don't want to leave you kind of on a bad note. You know this, how do you say his name? Paul of Yale. We say it wrong.

Polly, Polly have Pierre Polly. He's a, he's a conservative politician up in Canada. This guy is one of the best debaters. He had our, our audio video clip of the year last year last year when he was chewing on the apple or whatever, and just ripping this media guy to shreds. This is what I'm talking about by the ability to debate, flipping this back to the beginning of the show. And we were talking about VP candidates. If you're not a skilled debater and a lot of those guys are really good. Byron Donald's is excellent. Rubio is a good debater. JD.D. Vance is a master debater.

They're very good. They're very good. If you're not a good debater, it's really, really hard for you to be on the national stage these days because clips go viral like that. If you get caught, you get caught. Pierre Polivier, he's amazing. So he's at this press conference. I'm going to play about a minute of it. he's amazing. So he's at this press conference. I'm going to play about a minute of it. And some reporters like, you know, why are you standing in the way of Prime Minister Trudeau, the communist? I'm saying that he's the communist spending all this money on housing. We got to get people in all these houses. And Paul is like, the guy spent like millions and billions of dollars and we haven't even built anything. He's like, I don't disagree. The math disagrees. This is a classic in how to debate these media lunatics. Watch this. It's not a matter of me disagreeing. It's a mathematical fact. He's not delivering.

It's a mathematical fact that nine years ago when I was housing minister, the average rent for a one bedroom was $973. Now it's $2,000. These are the facts. Has he spent a lot of money on housing programs? Yes. He spent $89 billion on housing affordability, and the result is that housing costs have doubled. The problem is he's putting the money into bureaucracy. Government bureaucrats don't build homes. Private sector builders do. Government bureaucrats are in the way. So we need to get the government bureaucracy out of the way and deliver fast affordable permits to build the homes. One third of the cost of every newly built home in Ontario is government permits and taxes. One third.

That's more than we spend on the labor to build the home. So we're spending more on the bureaucrats who don't build anything than we do on the carpenters, framers, plumbers, and electricians who build. Isn't that insane? The guys are like, man, some of these Canadians, there's a conservative movement in Canada? Yeah, man, there's actually a history of a strong conservative movement in Canada. Go back and look.

They did more about their national debt decades ago than we did for a while. And the team here brought up a great point. Contrast Pierre there. Let me say his last name wrong. Sorry, no disrespect. Contrast what he did there, explaining the inherent fault in most government programs with James Clyburn. When asked the simple question, who's going to pay for all this student loan stuff?

Oh, nobody's going to pay. This is the difference. I did not put that in the show. And it was a beautiful contrast to sum up this show perfectly. I should have thought of that. Contrast these idiots on the left with people on the right. People on the right, like Pierre Polivier, tell you the truth, however painful it is. Yeah, you could do all the government spending you want on housing. You're going to get shit housing, a big government bureaucracy, and you're not going to get a quarter of what you want before the taxpayers go broke with James Clyburn. Oh,

everybody gets free tuition. Really? Who's going to pay? Nobody. You want to vote for that? You want to vote for conservative politicians? We'll actually tell you the truth. I think the answer is crystal clear. Folks, thanks so much for tuning in. I really appreciate it. It was a great week, man. Totally bananas, bonkers numbers this week. Thanks to you. Please spread the word. Tell people to watch the show 11 a.m. Eastern time. You can watch it on your computer.

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