The Dan Bongino Show - Why Can’t the Anti-Trumpers Get Their Stories Straight? (Ep 922)

Episode Date: February 22, 2019

In this episode I address the constantly changing stories by the anti-Trump schemers and why they all vindicate President Trump. I also address the hypocritical campaign of Bernie Sanders, who remains... a one-percenter. Finally, I address a massive error by the CBO that should be headline news. News Picks:Bernie Sanders is a total fraud. He lives like the 1% he decries.   Lunatic liberals demand that a pro-police flag be taken down in Connecticut.   The CBO really blew it on Obamacare. Why should we trust them?   Why can’t Andrew McCabe keep his story straight?    Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved.     Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 get ready to hear the truth about america on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host dan bongino all right welcome to the dan bongino show producer joe how are you today it's friday i'm doing well dude let me ask you a question so yeah you know we haven't been all over this smollett case because you know it, it's just so stupid, the whole thing. This guy, he's in a world of trouble, this Jussie Smollett, who by all appearances now appears to have faked this attack on him. But, Joe, I found out yesterday scrolling through Twitter that apparently Jussie Smollett paid the guys to attack him, you know, in this hoax attack. Paid them in a personal check. A personal. paid the guys to attack him, you know, in this hoax attack, paid them in a personal check.
Starting point is 00:00:48 A personal check. Now, Joe, listen, you're not a brain surgeon. I'm not a rocket scientist, or as I used to joke, a rocket surgeon. You know, we're reasonably smart guys, but who pays a guy in a personal check to attack him? Joe, listen, here's a pro tip for you. Not that you would do this because you would be arrested. If you were going to pay someone to engage in a Joe Armacost hoax attack,
Starting point is 00:01:15 Joe's going out. Do you still have that white car, that cool-looking white thing you used to drive? No, I got a silver one. Same thing. Same thing in silver. It's a cool-looking car. If you're walking out to your car and you paid two guys to attack you to put out on Twitter to gain sympathy. Joe, do not pay them in a personal check. What kind of knucklehead does this?
Starting point is 00:01:34 In a personal check. Who the hell does that? I heard it yesterday. I'm like, my gosh. You know, I mean, there's levels of stupid, folks. That is like a catastrophic level of stupid right there. my gosh. You know, I mean, there's levels of stupid, folks. That is like a catastrophic level of stupid right there. My gosh. Personal check.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Pays him in a personal check. Dude, again, pro tip, just go get some cash. Get a gold bar. Get something. Bitcoin. Sheesh, pay him in a person. If it wasn't for stupid people like that, cops would have a much harder job. Please, I'm going to check.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Oh, all right. Let me move on. All right. I got a lot to get through today. I got some interesting new stuff. Jeff Carlson, another great piece of the epic times. You don't want to miss it. Today's show brought to you by our buddies at Joybird.
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Starting point is 00:04:09 All right. So Carlson's got a great piece up. You know I admire his work a lot at Epic Times. And there's a couple of takeaways. You know, this McCabe thing is big this week. We've got to hammer this. We have to. Because as I told you during this entire week of shows, the storyline of the week, Joe,
Starting point is 00:04:25 has been collusion is dead. They are moving on now to obstruction of justice on Trump because it's all they have for an impeachment. And McCabe is going to be their lead witness. So the media is now conditioning you, gaslighting you onto the new narrative. And the new narrative is in fact that, that Trump tried to obstruct justice.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But Carlson has a really great piece where he points out some real trouble with McCabe and how McCabe's story keeps getting worse and worse and worse. The problem McCabe is having now, Andrew McCabe, is he's given all these interviews, whether it's to MSNBC, CNN, NPR, where our name ironically comes up in that one, my name. He claims to not know who I am
Starting point is 00:05:02 and then goes and takes a shot at me afterwards. How do you take a shot at me? You don't know who I am. The problem is, as he's given all these interviews, McCabe, he keeps stumbling over his own story. But one of the things interesting, and remember, we're all talking about these eight days in May. These eight days in May where Jim Comey is fired on May 9th of 2017, where May 11th, McCabe goes up to the Hill to testify,
Starting point is 00:05:25 and then May 16th and the dates following where it's alleged Rosenstein and McCabe are meeting to talk about plotting basically an attempted coup via the 25th Amendment and plotting to wire themselves up or one of them up in the White House to get the president on tape as evidence that the Comey firing was in fact motivated by an attempt to obstruct the Russia case. But here's something I picked out. Carlson notes an interesting date here that we've mentioned before, but as I was reading the piece, I put two and two together. Joe, it's on May 16th of 2017 that the alleged wire conversation happened.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So pay attention here. This is important. May 16th, 2017, it's alleged now that Rod Rosenstein says to Andy McCabe, hey, what do you want me to wear a wire with the president? In other words, record the president of the United States to get evidence on an obstruction charge? Rosenstein doesn't deny it, Joe, but Rosenstein says, well, he was joking. It was a joke. He wasn't serious. McCabe insists he is serious who do we believe joe they're both snakes at this point yeah honestly um i i don't know i wouldn't bet my house on either one of their
Starting point is 00:06:32 credibilities because they don't have it but something else happens on that day joe oh yeah later on that same day rod r Rosenstein escorts a certain figure over to the White House for a meeting with Donald Trump about the now open FBI director position that had been open since the 9th, which was a few days earlier, May 9th,
Starting point is 00:06:57 when Trump fired Jim Comey. Rosenstein escorts Bob Mueller over there. Oh! This is, yes. You know, shame on me for not telling you this earlier because I'm starting to put together now, this isn't in Jeff's piece, this is kind of me taking off from there and running with it,
Starting point is 00:07:14 but the piece is in the show notes. If you click on the menu at our website, bungino.com, the podcast app, the show notes are attached to the show. Now it's starting to make sense what probably happens here, Joe. McCabe doesn't trust rosenstein right rosenstein who's the deputy attorney general at the time but is running the case because sessions has recused himself he's effectively the boss of the whole
Starting point is 00:07:35 russia farcical collusion nonsense probe right all right they don't trust each other so mccabe he rosenstein's starting to worry about mccabe uh mccabe's clear animus towards trump but he's not worried don't don't get me wrong here don't read this the wrong way rosenstein's not worried about mccabe hating trump and wanting a wire in the white house and all this other stuff rosenstein's worried about that because rosenstein thinks that if mccabe doesn't handle this the right way, it's going to elicit a lot of attention to the FBI and it's going to bring heat on what they already did. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 If it doesn't stop me here, Joe. Paula, you too out there. In other words, he's not, Rosenstein's not mad at McCabe or doesn't trust him because he's worried he's targeting Trump. They already targeted Trump. The FISA stuff already happened. It's already over. They already targeted Trump. The FISA stuff already happened. It's already over. They've already spied on him. They've already tried to foster this stupid collusion narrative.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Rosenstein's worried. I guess the best way to say it, Joe, Rosenstein's worried that McCabe's being sloppy. Does that make sense? Yeah, he's worried about McCabe botching the deal. Yeah, right. He's botching the deal. But Rosenstein's knee deep in the deal, too.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He signed the FISA warrant. He signed the... Later on, he goes on to sign the scope memo, expanding the scope of Mueller's later investigation. What I think happens here, it's making all kinds of sense now, is Rosenstein knows that Mueller is likely going to be the special counsel.
Starting point is 00:09:02 How do we know that? Because Mueller's appointed the next day. So Rosenstein knows he is going to be the special counsel. How do we know that? Because Mueller's appointed the next day. So Rosenstein knows he is going to select Mueller as the special counsel. He knows that. Joe, do you really think in a few hours, the next day, in the morning, he wakes up and goes, oh, Bob Mueller would be a good guy. So put two and two together. What happens here?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Rosenstein's worried about McKay being a loose cannon, that he's sloppy. He's losing it. He's going to expose the whole thing. He's a co-conspirator, and he's worried about McCabe ratting him out. He needs a special counsel to shut McCabe down. He's already decided it's Mueller. He probably has a conversation with Mueller the day before he appoints him on the 16th and says, listen, I'm going to propose this to Trump, that you could be
Starting point is 00:09:45 appointed the FBI director, but that's really not going to happen. There's no chance that's going to happen. So I'll tell you what, under the guise of this meeting, I'll escort you into the White House and I want you to see how crazy this guy is talking about the president. I don't believe that. I'm trying to get in the head of Rosenstein and now it makes sense. Why would Rosenstein, follow me Armacost, why would Rosenstein, knowing he's going to appoint Mueller as a special counsel the next day and can't possibly be the FBI
Starting point is 00:10:13 director, right? You can't fill those two roles. Why would Rosenstein escort Mueller to the White House for a meeting about being the FBI director knowing it's never going to happen? Right. Because Rosenstein wants Mueller to see for himself what he thinks is wrong with Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Oh. Now, I say this with no air. This is finally hitting me. I say this with no air of pretension. I don't mean this in any kind of egomaniacal way at all. So please understand. I've spoken to the president. We're not best buds.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I don't want to overly dramatize it. But he is, folks, he's a perfectly lucid, he's exactly like you would expect in a business guy. He gets right to the point and he says what's on his mind. I have seen no evidence, I mean, no evidence of anything other than an effective business guy. He reminds me of when I was doing some secret service work and we deal with high tech companies, you know, because the president would come in and out and visit a lot of these companies.
Starting point is 00:11:11 You deal with the CEO. He reminds me of every CEO I ever met. He said, bang, bang, bang to the point, you know, AB business, all business, right? But Rosenstein, Joe, doesn't see it that way. Rosenstein sees Trump as the Mad Hatter, and he wants Mueller to see it for himself, so now this whole thing makes sense. Hey, come with me to the White House.
Starting point is 00:11:35 See this for yourself before I appoint you for special counsel the next day. Now the dates make all the sense in the world. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That very next day, he appoints Mueller. Does that make sense, Armacost? Yeah, that does make sense. Yeah. Yeah. He brings him in there. Of course he's not going to be appointed the FBI
Starting point is 00:11:55 director. He's the only guy who can clean up the whole mess who's intimately related to all the players in the scheme. So two takeaways from point one here. So one sub A, one sub B. Number one, Rosenstein's worried about McCabe, not because he's protecting Trump,
Starting point is 00:12:13 but because McCabe is clumsy. He's losing it. He's not keeping his marbles together. McCabe even admits it himself. He says, we were under a lot of stress at this time. Can I make one simple point about that too? Yeah, man. Before i get to point b you know when i was a a secret service agent overseas the one thing that would ruin your reputation quicker than anything else and you military guys out there and cops you know exactly what i'm talking about was having a reputation for what we called dropping code.
Starting point is 00:12:50 We also called it, let's say, hitting the bed, if you get what I'm saying. You get what I'm saying, Joe? It's a family-friendly show. Yeah, we got it, baby. So kids, don't ask your... But dropping code or being known as an agent who panicked under stress was a career killer. Nobody wanted to be around you
Starting point is 00:13:06 because the secret service was non-stop stress all the time yeah so just on this one sub a point here that rosenstein's worried because mccabe is panicking and dropping code that mccabe is weak i'm sorry folks i knocked this guy all week because he's so pathetic and he's such a liar. But one final knock, if you allow me, is that this guy is weak. So we threatened to try to take the president out of office in a bureaucratic coup and to wire up Rod Rosenstein because I was under stress. Let me tell you something. Armacost is under stress every day when Paul has busted his chops about getting a cut out joe we need to cut right paul is inside like will you please stop talking
Starting point is 00:13:51 about this stuff i can't this is part of my life this is the show you guys got to know everything warts and all joseph i'm under stress i gotta travel to vietnam today on a 30 plus hours of flying listen that's no excuse i to put a show on for you and the show has to produce the goods or you won't listen and then nothing works. Stress, Schmess. I'm sorry, but life is stress.
Starting point is 00:14:14 McCabe, so McCabe engaged in a bureaucratic coup because he was under stress. Oh my gosh. So again, the takeaway is McCabe is a code dropper and Rosenstein was worried that he was going to be the rat in this whole thing so he has to get him under control secondly clearly he brings
Starting point is 00:14:33 muller to the white house to give muller a flavor for his version of events rosenstein and he went oh look at trump we're gonna go meet him he's crazy but this is clearly what's going on is evidence by him appointing him the next day okay now that's the carlson piece addresses some of that but not but that angle this he hits and he takes on directly and this is a great great great point hat tip big jeff at epic times let's get the lead out first. How can Trump obstruct an investigation he was not aware of? Joe, I'm sorry. I have to win. When we got to knock my, I got to be self-deprecating.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I got to be self-deprecating. But how did I not bring this point up earlier in the week? If Trump is going to now, right? How did we miss this? It got by me too. It got by you too, didn't it? And you see the articles I put out there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:32 How the heck can Trump obstruct an investigation he was not aware was going on? Okay, you're like, Dan, what are you talking about? So remember, the Dems are moving now and they're media goon friends from collusion to obstruction. But let me read to you,im baker the fbi one of the head attorneys at the top of the fbi right hand man to jim comey intimately familiar with this small group of people attacking the trump thief through the spygate scandal this is baker's
Starting point is 00:16:00 testimony under oath to congressman john ratcliffe well let me just read carlson's first the lead up he says but but then again there's a problem trump was never told he may be the subject of a criminal investigation a fact even baker admitted to during his testimony here's congressman ratcliffe good guy so do you know if at any point in time did jim comey as fbi director ever tell President Trump that President Trump was under criminal investigation Baker um I think my understanding and belief is that he was never told that in fact he was told the opposite that he was not under investigation how did we miss this I like, I'm reading Jeff's piece
Starting point is 00:16:45 and I'm kicking myself in the butt going, because I had this, I had the testimony. I have the screenshots of it. And the fact that I didn't tell you, this is infuriating to me. I'm disappointed I let you down. How can Trump obstruct an investigation he wasn't even told existed?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Joe Armacost is guilty of obstructing an investigation into bank robbery. Did Joe know he was under investigation for bank robbery? He had no idea. So how could he obstruct an investigation? Yeah. This is a brilliant point. This is hot dip Jeff Carlson.
Starting point is 00:17:15 This is the, if there were two or three huge takeaways from this week. Great job. One would be Andy McCabe still has not proved that there was any evidence to open the case outside the dossier. No predicate. He still has not said anything about predicate crimes. Matter of fact, he made it worse yesterday by indicating
Starting point is 00:17:36 in an interview, Joe, that all of the information we know they used to target the Trump team had already been made public. In other words, we know everything, according to McCabe, according to how they started the investigation, the FBI, he was the, he was one of the lead guys in charge of, and there's nothing, he's now admitting it. One of this other takeaways would be McCabe told Rubio under oath two days after Comey was fired, that there was quote, no effort to obstruct his investigation.
Starting point is 00:18:07 The FBI invest by President Trump. That's takeaway number two. Devastating. But this has got to be takeaway number three. Jim Baker, upper echelon lawyer in the FBI, under oath, tells Congressman Ratcliffe, a solid Republican, that Trump was told he wasn't even under investigation.
Starting point is 00:18:29 How could he obstruct an investigation he was told didn't even exist? Now, there's some follow-up later. To be fair to the liberal lunatics, because I want to prepare you for point-counterpoint, the liberal lunatics will say, well, he was going to obstruct investigations into other people. No, no, no, no. Let me read again from yesterday's show. Important. The president himself, according to Jim Comey, the president went on to say that if there were some satellite associates of his
Starting point is 00:18:59 who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out. How in... Is that evidence of obstruction on an investigation into other people? You see where I'm going with this, Joe? It seems weird a little bit. A little bit, Pee-wee. A little bit. Just a tiny little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He's not obstructing an investigation into himself because he was told he wasn't under investigation. Oh, well, he was clearly trying to obstruct investigations into his other people. That's not what Jim Comey said. Comey said he actually asked him to find out if there was any misdeeds or malfeasance with his, quote, satellites. Oh, my gosh. Are you liberals this stupid? Do you have any evidence of anything ever?
Starting point is 00:19:47 I mean, outside of like, I think therefore I am like the fact, you know, when Descartes tried to distill down how he could prove he existed, I think therefore I must be, you're not even thinking therefore you must not be. I'm not so good. Descartes got that all wrong. Well, I think therefore, I don't know. think, therefore, you are, because you're not thinking. You've got nothing. You've got no collusion. You've got no predicate.
Starting point is 00:20:11 You've got no obstruction against Trump case. You've got no obstruction on Trump against other people. You've got nothing. You're just making this whole thing up. Now, I'm going to hit one final point from jeff's piece on this which is again stellar we've kind of addressed this a little bit before but he puts it together in kind of a different way and it's nice and neat so takeaway number one was the wire talk and how mccabe and rosenstein don't trust each other and how Mueller was going to be
Starting point is 00:20:45 unquestionably Mueller was going to be the special counsel was brought in to probably interview Trump hey look at this guy takeaway number two Trump didn't even know there was an investigation and he was told the opposite how could he obstruct it takeaway number three Joe the liberals will tell you in a counterpoint you know but clearly by May of 2017 while all of this is happening joe clearly there must be some other evidence out there that maybe andy mccabe is unaware of because remember mccabe's already said joe in an interview this week no no everything's already out there right so the liberals will say because i know how liberals are because they're frauds and they're fakes and they're phonies and they love to lie and make stuff up, they'll say, well, Andy McCabe wasn't the investigator in the case.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Peter Stroke from the FBI was. So clearly he knew something. Oh, did he? Because here's a quote from Jeff Carlson's epic Times piece. Text from Peter Stroke, the lead investigator, in May of 2017 to his girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page. You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I'd be there. No question.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern. There's no big there there. This is the lead investigator in the case telling his girlfriend, another FBI employee via text while talking about this collusion probe, that the odds are, quote, nothing. There's no there there. But this again, this won't stop liberals. No, no. They'll say maybe he's just trying to impress his girlfriend and she's got the goods. OK, here's Lisa Page with the goods.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Page, who was asked about this text during her July 2018 testimony said, so I think this represents that even as far as May of 2017, we still couldn't answer the question. In other words, the girlfriend, Lisa Page, the FBI lawyer to stroke the lead investigator is acknowledging that no no we just didn't know anything oh my gosh Joe this case this this this stupid never ends it just goes on and on and on it is
Starting point is 00:23:00 the it's like it's it's like my friend Brian friend Brian, not my cop friend Brian. This guy Brian I knew in Maryland, he ran for office. He has this company, Smith Island Cakes. And Joe, you know the Smith Island Cake, right? It's like seven layers of cake and fudge or something. They're really good. The official cake of Maryland, yeah. Yeah, the official cake of Maryland, right?
Starting point is 00:23:21 The Smith Island Fudge Cake, right? This is like a Smith Island seven-layer cake of stupid. It's like dumb piled up on top of stupid, piled on top of moronic, piled on top of... I can't even get my word because this is so dumb. I'm getting dumber talking about it. Care for a piece of cake?
Starting point is 00:23:41 No, I'm dumb enough already. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I've reached peak stupid peak stupid i'm good my stupid tank is full i mean you you're that guy in the gas station you're the guy in the gas station where the automatic shutoff kicks in he's still trying the gas starts coming back out the stupid's coming out backwards now you're starting a gasoline fire of stupid oh man folks It's unbelievable. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:26:11 A couple of news stories I wanted to get to. Speaking of firearms, this is actually an interesting segue. I didn't plan it this way. A lot of news stories. You know, Friday's where I catch up on the news of the week that I may have missed out of when there's big breaking bombshells like the McCabe book story and all his stumbles this week. There's interesting pieces in yesterday's show notes,
Starting point is 00:26:30 actually, if you go to yesterday's show, you'll see it in there. It's a piece of the Daily Signal by John Stossel, who does really great work, about a bunch of bogus gun research that's being called out, even by liberal outlets lately, folks. I say this because you're going to see
Starting point is 00:26:44 a renewed push in the 2020 presidential with the Democrats on stage for outright gun confiscation, Joe. We've seen a far left lurch lately with the Democrat Party. I heard Elizabeth Warren yesterday is now calling for reparations. I mean, this is just incredible. We're now at full-blown government health care, massive amounts of government spending the green new deal gun confiscation so you're going to hear a lot of this now you're going to see some of this research put out there and john stossel does a good job of calling it out as nonsense the first piece of information joe um npr of all places yeah npr i didn't say that wrong obviously a left-leaning outlet it did a piece of debunking that's described in the daily
Starting point is 00:27:25 signal piece where there was a a study going around that showed that there were 235 school shootings over this recent time period they documented and a lot and a lot of people like you and i we we covered this a bit before but it's important to address it again in context of this article joe remember we we addressed as we we were like, 235? Folks, listen, any of these is so tragic. I mean, we all remember them. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Parkland, which isn't that far from me. I mean, we remember all of these. These are, for all the wrong reasons, tattooed on our brains. But when I heard that number, 235, I thought, really? Did I miss? But when I heard that number, 235, I thought, really? Did I miss?
Starting point is 00:28:06 You know, I don't know. Like, what happened here? Well, NPR of all places debunked this and could only confirm, Joe, 11 of these. Now, listen, that doesn't take away the tragedy of these 11, obviously. No. But the point is, folks, if we're trying to address a problem, which this unquestionably is, with actual facts and data, the facts and data have to be right. Now, what happened here?
Starting point is 00:28:29 A lot of these 235 claimed school shootings were reports from schools that there was a shooting somewhere near a school. There was a hunter in the woods somewhere. They heard around. Some kid off a campus got caught with a BB gun. These are not school shooting incidents, not as we would typically think about them. Secondly, so that's important. If there are not, if that number gets thrown out there, folks, be ready to respond.
Starting point is 00:28:54 These are all tragic, no question, but there were not 235 school shootings. NPR can only confirm 11. Again, unquestionably tragic, but that's not an accurate number, 235. Another one in this interesting piece in the Daily Signal. Since 1966, there is a researcher who claimed there were 90 public mass shootings. Again, Joe, San Bernardino. We know about the, when you see Ford Hood, these are things that for all the wrong reasons are tattooed on our brains.
Starting point is 00:29:30 We remember these. Joe, you remember Ford Hood, San Bernardino, Paris. Now, this guy claims since 1966, there have been 90 public mass shootings in the United States, and that that makes us one of the highest countries in the world for these mass shootings. What's the problem here? The countries he's making the comparison to don't even keep this kind of data.
Starting point is 00:29:55 In other words, how is he making a comparison between an apple and an apple when he doesn't have another apple? There's only one. He doesn't have the data. This is from the piece uh john lot when his research center checked the data using lankford's own definition of a mass shooting uh four or more people killed the center found 3 000 shootings around the world lankford claimed there were only 202 so in other words joe not only is he grossly overestimating the number of quote mass shootings
Starting point is 00:30:25 in the united states yeah he is underestimating by a factor of over 10 the number of mass shootings around the world you get what i'm saying this is what bothers me about liberalism folks instead of speaking about an unquestioned problem we can all agree about no doubt about that in serious terms using facts and data so we can handle it and understand the scale of it what does the left do and their researchers they lie about it well look there were only 202 of these around the world and and there have been 90 no there were 3 000 around the world and your 90 number in the united states isn't uh it is inaccurate either it says the piece goes on it turns out that not only did the U.S.
Starting point is 00:31:06 not have the most frequent mass shootings, it was number 62 on the list, lower than places like Norway, Finland, and Switzerland. Folks, let's get our arms around the real data so we can grasp the scope of the problem. Let's not lie to each other. But liberals are good at that. Every day I wake up with a new
Starting point is 00:31:25 liberal argument I've got to debunk. I love doing it. I get joy out of it completely. Alright, one more story here before I get to my... We're ending off on a high note today, Joe. You know I love the Bernie Sanders stuff, so I've
Starting point is 00:31:41 got some really good Bernie Sanders stuff. But the liberals will cite to you, this should be a huge story. It's a story about the CBO. Liberals love to cite the CBO. They love to do that. And there's a story out there. It's in the show notes today,
Starting point is 00:31:56 the Washington Examiner, about just how bad the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, has been at estimating the effects of Obamacare. This should be a story in wide dissemination, and it has been sidelined. You're going to hear nothing about it outside. I think Phil Wegman wrote the piece in the Examiner. The CBO, Joe, their original estimate on Obamacare, pay attention to these numbers.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You want to see how off they are, because your liberal friends will cite the CBO all the time. Estimated that the individual mandate, in other words, the tax penalty in Obamacare, if you refuse to buy the insurance, the Obamacare insurance. Now, Trump wiped that out. That doesn't exist anymore. But it did. That doesn't exist anymore. But it did.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The individual mandate, it was estimated to increase the number of insured by 14 million people. Follow me because this gets a little confusing, but it's important. It's critically important because it speaks to the utter failure of government and bureaucrats to almost ever get anything right ever. And how it leads to serious policy ramifications for us and negative ones. Obama, Joe, needed that number to be high. In other words, he needed to be able to go to the American people and say, look, this individual mandate telling people that you have to buy Obamacare, they're going to be penalized, it'll be strong enough that it'll cause 14 million people to buy insurance.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And Obama's take, Joe, was that was a good thing. You tracking? Yeah. He needed that number high. So he could say, look, all these people will buy insurance as a result. It'll stabilize the markets. Now, the Republicans benefited from this too.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, believe it or not. Because when Trump and the Republicans wanted to institute the tax cut, what did they wipe clean, Joe? The individual mandate. They got rid of it. So inadvertently, the CBO, which does a terrible job, their number of 14 million people, they couldn't backtrack on that number. So the Republicans said, well, if we wipe clean this individual mandate and get rid of it,
Starting point is 00:34:13 well, clearly then the government's going to save a lot of money, which we can use to cut taxes. Why, Joe? Because according to your own numbers, baby, 14 million people aren't going to buy Obamacare and therefore the government doesn't have to pay them subsidies to buy it. numbers, baby. 14 million people aren't going to buy Obamacare and therefore the government doesn't have to pay them subsidies to buy it. Yeah, baby, yeah. They did in Austin Peay. The Republicans did a dipsy-do flip-a-roo.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It was a brilliant move. They said, well, CBO guys, you use this for Obama so we can run around the country saying, look how successful Obamacare is going to be. We're going to have 14 million people who are now going to buy insurance that wouldn't have otherwise.
Starting point is 00:34:49 That number sticks. You can't run from it. So Republicans use that 13 million number in the scoring and said, well, now we're going to save money because we don't have to subsidize these people who aren't going to buy this crap insurance. And they use that money, Joe, to do what? To cut those people's taxes. So it was a win-win.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Now you don't get a tax penalty for not buying an Obamacare, and you get a tax cut so you get to spend some more of your own money. There's the background. The CBO estimate of 13 to 14 million people. Well, folks, the individual mandate was, in fact, wiped out. So now we know. Now we know, now that there is no more individual mandate was in fact wiped out so now we know now we know now that there is no more individual mandate joe if the cbo was right that it was going to cause 14 million people to drop or buy insurance well what was the actual number joe so they predicted 14 million
Starting point is 00:35:39 people would drop okay if the individual mandate wasn't in effect, the individual mandate is not in effect. What do you think? How many people dropped? 10 million? 8 million? Maybe, you know, they were close. Maybe, you know, 12 million? How does this sound for you?
Starting point is 00:35:55 2.5 million people. They were only off by a factor of six. No big deal, folks. They said 14 million people would drop and 2.5 million did why is this a big story and Wegman says that kind of in his piece like how is this not getting more traction it's a big story because they fudge the numbers to sell you this Obamacare crap now you could you could say well the Republicansudged the numbers too to get tax
Starting point is 00:36:25 cuts. I don't care. It was more freedom for me. It was money in my pocket and now I don't have to buy crap insurance. I don't care if they fudge the numbers or not. What I do care about number fudging, Joe, is when you force me to do something using government power against my will, like buying crap insurance based on numbers that are not even remotely accurate is the cbo ever right on anything ever not a bunch of number fudgers no right i was a little worried there yeah i was worried where you go i was worried halfway through it yeah i mean they weren't even close to 14 million prediction ladies and gentlemen it's not even in the ballpark it's not in the stadium it's not in the parking lot it's not even on't even close to 14 million prediction, ladies and gentlemen. It's not even in the ballpark. It's not in the stadium.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's not in the parking lot. It's not even on the highway close to the stadium anywhere. Man, a lot. Dude, yeah. CBO. We love the CBO. They're great. The CBO great.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, yeah. They're so great. They're only off by a factor of six. They were only off. Joe, don't worry. They were only off by 11 and a half million people. No big deal, folks. It was just a rounding error.
Starting point is 00:37:26 A rounding error of 11 and a half million out of a 14 million prediction. What the heck? Read the piece in the examiner. It's worth your time. It's very good. All right. Finally, today's show brought to you by our buddies at Bravo Company Manufacturing. Listen, you know I'm a champion of the Second Amendment.
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Starting point is 00:39:26 special offers, and upcoming news. That's BravoCompanyMFG.com, or you can check out their YouTube channel at YouTube.com slash BravoCompanyUSA. All right. Ending the week on a high note, our buddy Bernie's back. Bernie, feel the burn, kids. Feel the burn. Just protect your wallet in the meantime because Bernie's unquestionably dipping his hand into your... You know what I would say? Capital One, where's your wallet? And that should be Bernie's model. Bernie should be the Capital
Starting point is 00:39:55 One. Where's your wallet? I need to get my hand in there. So we had a lot of fun with Bernie during the last election cycle where our most viral show at the time, oh, it's funny, our audience back then pales in comparison to what it is now, Joe. But back then it was a big deal. Remember that show got like 40,000 downloads overnight?
Starting point is 00:40:13 We were like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest thing ever. That's like an hour now for some of our good shows. But we did a show about Bernie where we exposed him for the fraud he is, how he's hopping around the country on these charter flights when he was campaigning, how the menu on the charter was incredible. I mean, this is a guy that's supposed to be a socialist, you know, a man of the people, Joe. He's not a bourgeois.
Starting point is 00:40:36 This guy's a member of the working class. And remember the show about, what was it, Glazed in Dives or whatever it was? You got to see the menu on this guy's flight. Herb-crusted in dives or lamb bones or whatever the heck I don't even know I don't eat that crap I eat you know steak and chicken fingers I mean seriously I do I not that we can't afford I just that's what I eat it's what I like I'm sorry but yeah Bernie eats high class what was the other one crusted key lime pie with tootsie rolls or whatever. I don't even know what the heck was in it. But Bernie was living the high life.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So we shredded him for being a phony and a fraud, and the show went nuclear for us at the time. And the reason we do that, though, is it's substantial, folks. It's not just to joke around. It's, number one, because tactically speaking, I'm an activist at heart, and this matters to me. And one of the key tools in our arsenal against the left is mockery. And I'm sorry, I know that doesn't sound great, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Legitimate mockery, using hypocrisy as a foil, their own hypocrisy, is a devastating weapon to use against them. They're trying to take our money, Joe. They're trying to take our freedom. They're trying to take our health care. Well, we're going to fight back. And if it makes you all look silly in the process, too bad, not sad. I don't care. Now, we don't have
Starting point is 00:41:56 that problem as conservatives. We don't. We live our own principles. We want people to spend their own money on themselves and their family because we know that money's better spent that way. We know what we turn over to the government. Some we have to. Military, courts, the constitutional functions of government.
Starting point is 00:42:11 We don't object to that. But we do object to your endless entitlement programs, your social welfare programs, and you taking money out of our pockets to give it to people, at times, in the words of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's own website, people unwilling to work. We don't stand for that. We want people to work and be prosperous.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Now, there's no hypocrisy there. I want to spend more of my own money, and I want you to do it too. I like school choice for my kids. I want school choice for your kids too. I want to pick my own healthcare. I want you to pick your healthcare too. want school choice for your kids too. I want to pick my own health care. I want you to pick your health care too. The Democrats,
Starting point is 00:42:47 these hypocritical, phony, fraud far leftists do not do that. They are total frauds. They want more of your money as they hammer the 1% as they live like the 1%. They rant against school choice why they send their kids to elite schools.
Starting point is 00:43:02 They rant against your being able to pick your own health care. Why, they have these nice gold-plated plans from Congress. It's a joke. It's a farce. And I'm tired of it. And Bernie is the captain of the frauds. And listen, Bernie bros, whatever, bring it.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Bring it on social media, your emails. I love it. I relish it. I will start reading your emails on the show we'll have to do that Dana Lash thing where she reads hate mail on the show and it's a sponsored segment and she uses the hate mail bag to
Starting point is 00:43:34 buy ammo for the range or something that was the greatest idea ever I don't care you guys are supporting a total fraud article up at Bongino.com today really good one up in the show notes. Let's go through some of the bullet points on how Bernie Sanders is the biggest fraud in politics. Bernie Sanders, who rails against the 1%, owns three homes.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Three. He has a 2016 home he bought, or he bought in 2016. He spent $575K off on a lake in vermont in a lake house now joe i make decent money i don't have a lake house yeah i have no problem with bernie's lake house i have a problem with the fact that bernie has a lake house and rails against people who have lake houses that's kind of the problem joe do you have a lake house no no i don't have maybe you can check out on airbnb maybe bernie's renting his up in vermont you may want to check that. I don't have a lake house. Maybe you can check out on Airbnb. Maybe Bernie's renting his up in Vermont. You may want to check that out.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I don't have the address. I wouldn't put it out. I don't dox people anyway. But maybe if you get friendly with Bernie, he'll throw you a bone, let you hang out at his lake house. So he has three homes. He has a row home in D.C. Gosh, I can't even imagine how expensive that is.
Starting point is 00:44:40 If you've been to D.C. lately, those row homes are, right, Joe? You know the market well. Oh, yeah. Those are pretty expensive. You could have bought one 30 years ago at a deal. Not anymore. So he's got a nice little row home in D.C. Yeah, Bernie, nice job there, Bernie.
Starting point is 00:44:52 He's got another home, apparently, in Burlington, Vermont. So he has three homes. Now, what I find fascinating is people are still getting snookered by this fraud, this complete clown. He tweets out yesterday bernie he really tweeted this he tweets out how many yachts do these billionaire need these billionaires i don't know as many as you need homes out of three i don't know i'm not a billionaire i don't own a yacht i don't even like boats i don't even have like a a 10 footer to put on the water i have i don't i don't i don't need any yachts point is, I don't care how many yachts billionaires
Starting point is 00:45:25 need. As long as someone's building yachts and getting paid for them in a yacht business, it's good for the economy. I don't care. But they probably need about as many yachts as Bernie Sanders needs homes. Joe, how many homes can you live in at one time? Have we cloned anybody yet? No, not as far as I know, right? So Bernie can live in one home at a time, right? So he only needs one, right? Yeah. So let me ask you, why does he have three? Go. Why does he have three, Joe?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Why does he have three homes? I guess because he can. You know, I don't know why. Because he can! Yes! Well done, Armacost. Why does Bernie buy three homes? Because he can.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Because it's a free country. It's the best answer you've ever given on this show. Thank you. Why does Bernie buy three homes? Because he can. Because it's a free country. Exactly. It's the best answer you've ever given on the show. Thank you. I have a really nasty joke. I'm not going to say it. I don't ever use jokes on the show because it's a kid-friendly show. But one of my cousins, a great guy, he's a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I think he's retired now. But he used to tell me a joke that ended him because they can. And I'll have to tell you that one off the air, Joe. But it was the greatest joke. It's the greatest joke ever. Why does Bernie buy three homes? but he used to tell me a joke that ended him because they can. And I'll have to tell you that one off the air, Joe, but it was the greatest joke. It's the greatest joke ever. Why does Bernie buy three homes? Because he can.
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's why. Because we don't live in Cuba. That's why. But he's a phony. He's a big fraud. He can only live in one of them. Secondly, so Bernie Sanders' salary is out there. Bernie Sanders earned $1 million in 2017, including $900,000 from a book he wrote.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Now, again, Bernie Sanders is a phony and a fake and a big fraud. Why is Bernie Sanders not redistributing this money out to people in the economy, donating it to the government? Why? His whole campaign platform, his whole platform is based on the idea that money collected above a certain point necessary for living, which Joe, can we all agree a million is far more than someone would need to live a life of basic sustenance, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Again, I'm not faulting anybody who has that. I'm simply suggesting that as a mathematical fact, an economic financial fact, unless you're living in Beverly Hills, you can probably get a decent home and live well off a million dollars. So Bernie doesn't need all that. Bernie probably needs about,
Starting point is 00:47:40 he could live on 50,000, plus I think his wife used to work, she probably has some pension. So Bernie doesn't need 950,000 plus I think his wife used to work she probably has some pension so Bernie doesn't need $950,000 of that now my question is why isn't he donating that to the government Bernie can pay higher taxes now keep in mind he may say well why would Bernie do that because Bernie's whole ethos his whole ideology his whole ideological house is built on a bedrock that government is a force for positive good in our lives, that we should give what we can above a level of basic need
Starting point is 00:48:11 to the government because the government will do better things with it than you will. Of course, folks, that is asinine. That is one of the dumbest things any human being could ever align themselves with. There's no evidence that's true at all. It's just dumb. As Milton Friedman always said, when government's other people spending other people's money on other people,
Starting point is 00:48:32 neither cost nor quality matter. You're not buying anything for yourself, so the cost doesn't matter, and the quality doesn't matter because it's not your product either. You're buying it for other people. That's what Bernie doesn't get. But Bernie doesn't live that way either, folks.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Bernie lives like a fraud. Bernie has money he doesn't need using his own line and assets he doesn't need, two extra homes out of his three, and $950,000 in money he makes a year. Why isn't he giving that away to the government to increase the net good of society, the positive externalities? Folks, the answer's obvious. Because Bernie knows that's not true. He's a fraud. He's telling you that's true
Starting point is 00:49:18 because the financing of big government, if Bernie Sanders were the president, empowers Bernie Sanders. The financing of big government allows him Bernie Sanders were the president, empowers Bernie Sanders. The financing of big government allows him in his Senate spot in Vermont to control the economy, to increase his power, to have people come in to him to get handouts, the scraps from Longshank's table, to quote Braveheart. They have to go to you then to get the money. Bernie's a fraud.
Starting point is 00:49:43 He's a fake. You're being led. You know, that's what I've always admired about Trump. At least he's honest. He's like, I'm rich. I love being rich. It's great. We should all be rich. You should be rich. Joe should be rich. Reminds me of Oprah. You know, remember Oprah? You get a book, you get a car, you get Trump. That's Trump. Trump's like, everybody should be rich. Bernie just wants to be the only rich guy in town he wants you to all be poor finally for the elections right before the midterm elections bernie sanders traveled around the country campaigning for people bernie sanders is a green new dealer bernie sanders believes in climate change air travel obviously contributes to that
Starting point is 00:50:26 via CO2 emissions according to Bernie CO2 by the way is not a poison but I'm just giving you Bernie's take air travel's bad air travel's definitely bad if you don't need to travel so Bernie felt necessary to travel around before the midterm elections
Starting point is 00:50:43 to get other like minded socialists and communists elected. So, Joe, he spent a few bucks on air travel in October alone. And by a few bucks, I mean $300,000 in air travel. So let's just sum up Bernie here. He's an alleged climate change alarmist who will fly around the country instead of taking trains or cars, emitting CO2 everywhere on those airplanes in the amount of $300,000 he didn't need to advocate for people who are going to take more of your money to make you poor, unlike him, because he makes a million dollars a year and owns three row homes.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And you're following this fool. Folks, along the lines of yesterday's show i get it some of you may email me i read your emails some of you may say oh don't pay attention to him you're giving him you know you're giving him unnecessary pr folks no no no no that's not the way this works there are people who donated six million million to this guy on his opening day. It is up to us to use the political tactical weapons we have to
Starting point is 00:51:51 start to knock this guy's nonsense down and point out the hypocrite that he is. And that starts now. By the way, I got a nasty email yesterday from a guy. I'm not going to say who it is. But yeah, he was so upset. He's like, he's ready to give up on Trump.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Oh, it's over. Oh, he's screaming. I read the whole thing. It was like a rant. And he's like, I can't believe you're falling. I'm like, falling for what? I'm like, did you miss the tax cuts, the regulatory reform, the two Supreme Court justices, the circuit court justices, the border wall money I told you we already got?
Starting point is 00:52:22 I mean, listen, folks, it's not a perfect presidency. He's two years in. Sheesh, man, what do you want? Guy was like all fired, ready to give up. Yeah, listen, do what you want. Give up. Joe, and then he throws in a little shot like at the end. He's like, I don't care about your going to the White House story either.
Starting point is 00:52:37 All right, great. It's a free show. You don't have to listen. You don't like my stories? That's fine. I don't know what to tell you, buddy. I'm not Bernie Sanders. I'm not a communist.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I'm not going to chain your ear to the computer and hit the play button. This is not a Clockwork Orange where you're sitting there with the eyes open with the eye opener things watching Dan Bongino podcast. I love my audience to death. I say it all the time, but I'm not forcing you to listen, bro. Guy was like so upset. I don't hear stupid stories anymore. Screw this story.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Trump sucks. I'm done. Like, oh my gosh. Take a chill pill, man. I know. Gosh, take some Pepto. It's funny how the rage comes through in the letters and the words. You know, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Oh my gosh. It was like, I love reading the emails. You know, 99..9 of them are really really good i mean a lot of them are commentary on sponsors commentary on a show spygate the book people really enjoyed the spygate book but we do once in a while we get someone who just like loses it and it's so bitter and you're like oh my gosh you know seriously brother take some charcoal tablets for your tummy and soothe down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It's not that bad. It's really not. He's doing what he can, this guy. He's got a Democrat House of Representatives, the president. He doesn't have a super majority in the Senate. He had two years of rhinos in the House obstructing his agenda
Starting point is 00:54:01 and trying to help the republic the democrats get him out of office i mean what do you want the guy to do other than cut taxes grow the economy get two people on the supreme court engage in regulatory reform and start building the wally but what else do you want the guy to do i'm serious all right that was a fun show this has been a great week of shows thank you very much i think we pretty much decimated andy mccabe's credibility this week and it was important we do that because he is going to be the key witness in this future obstruction thing they're going to push against Donald Trump. Please subscribe to the show, folks, on iTunes. It is free if you have an iPhone or iOS. You can also, if you have
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