The Dan Bongino Show - Why is Bernie Sanders Lying to You? (Ep 1188)

Episode Date: February 24, 2020

In this episode, I address the latest NY Times’ story which is a clear effort to get out ahead of the growing FBI FISA scandal. I translate what they’re really saying. I also address a stunning ru...mor about the possible entrance of Hillary Clinton into the Democrats’ race for the presidency. Finally, I expose the nonsense in Bernie’s spending plans.  News Picks:Four things to know about the latest mainstream media Russia hoax.   The latest Russia hoax is already debunked.   Is Hillary Clinton hatching a plan to enter the race at the Democrat Convention?   Friends of the Trump team are helping to drain the Swamp by exposing anti-Trumpers in the administration.    Devin Nunes vows to continue his lawsuit against Fusion GPS.    Here’s the hard reality behind Bernie Sander’s ridiculous 97 trillion dollars in government spending.    Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. All right. Incredible feedback on our Bernie Sanders segment on Friday, which I'm going to address in specifics now. Some of you fell for a lot of the Snopes stuff. I will clear that one up. Secondly, another New York Times story comes out this weekend, which should always tell you they're covering something. I'll tell you what they're covering for. You're going to love this. Also, Bernie Sanders on 60 Minutes humiliating himself again.
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Starting point is 00:02:51 All right, ladies and gentlemen. So we put out on Friday, James Woods' semi-tongue-in-cheek piece about how Bernie wants to, I say, threaten to raise the minimum wage nationally because that's what it would be, a threat to our economy. threatened to raise the minimum wage nationally because that's what it would be a threat to our economy uh in conjunction with some of the tax rates that bernie sanders would need to finance some of these proposals and the responses i got back and i love your feedback don't get me wrong were interesting because i had a lot of conservatives reach out and say oh you know that's not true bernie's not that. Folks, math belies that point. Bernie Sanders, I'm going to go through hard numbers here because I
Starting point is 00:03:29 understand that I'm not listening. You're my audience and if you felt that the trying to marry up his tax proposals with his free stuff proposals didn't work out that way because some people said, well, Bernie never said a 52% rate. He's not saying anything. That's the point. The simple argument we were trying to make is the math does not work
Starting point is 00:03:48 for Bernie Sanders. That was the point that when you marry up what he wants to spend in free programs with what he's telling the Americans, what he's going to tax them, it doesn't work. The math, that was the whole point. And I'm sorry if I didn't get to that more directly. My apologies. Today, we're going to put real meat on the bone to back this up. But first, let me start with Bernie himself to show you how the math doesn't work. He's lying. He is lying to you.
Starting point is 00:04:17 No, no, Bernie said he's not going to tax people who make $30,000 a year. He's lying. Here is Bernie Sanders himself on 60 Minutes with Anderson Cooper, who, listen, hat dip to Cooper, you know, nails him here. Yeah. And says, hey, buddy, are you ever going to tell us how you're going to pay for this stuff? And watch Bernie flail around because he has no explanation how he's going to pay for this stuff. Check this out. How much will that cost? Obviously, those are expensive propositions, but we have done our best on issue after issue in paying for them. Do you know how much, though?
Starting point is 00:04:50 I mean, do you have a price tag for all this? We do. I mean, you know, and the price tag is it will be substantially less than letting the current system go. I think it's about $30 trillion. That's just for Medicare for all. Just Medicare for all. Do you have a price tag for all of these things? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:05:05 We try to, no. You mentioned making public colleges and universities tuition-free and canceling all student debt. That's correct. That's what I want to do. We pay for that through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation. But you say you don't know what the total price is, but you know how it's going to be paid for. How do you know it's going to be paid for if you don't know how much the price is? Well, I can't, you know, I can't rattle off to you every nickel and every dime but we have accounted
Starting point is 00:05:27 for you you talked about medicare for all we have options out there that will pay okay don't worry folks i will rattle off every nickel and every dime for you because you deserve that and again forgive me for not getting into the hard specifics fr. Again, the James Woods tweet was meant tongue-in-cheek to show you that Bernie Sanders can't possibly pay for any of this without instituting draconian tax rates. Ironically, ladies and gentlemen, worse than what was in the James Woods tweet. Now let's get into the hard numbers, okay? I searched all weekend because this was on my mind. I don't want you to think like, oh, we're putting out there Snopes, fact check Snopes, which is hysterical.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Stuff that's been fact checked is being wrong. No, no, we're right. They're wrong. Let's put meat on the bone. I found this piece of City Journal by Brian Rydell, which is one of the better ones. It'll be in the show notes today. I encourage you to keep it handy on your computer or your phone.
Starting point is 00:06:21 The piece is titled this. It's from October 15, 2019 at City Journal. The unaff titled this. It's from October 15, 2019 at City Journal. The Unaffordable Candidate. Bernie Sanders' $97 trillion agenda would impose incomprehensible costs. How? Now, yes. Now we're going to go into the specifics here,
Starting point is 00:06:36 and let's just be crystal clear on this. Unless you believe in the money fairy, what Bernie Sanders is proposing to give away to you for free, air quotes there, has to come from somewhere. There's no money fairy. What Bernie Sanders is proposing to give away to you for free, air quotes there, has to come from somewhere. There's no money fairy. And it can only come from you. The government is not a private business. It doesn't produce anything. The government takes and spends. So now that we understand that, that's tautological, that what he spends, he has to take from you in the form of taxes. There's no other way.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Spending, deficit spending, all of that stuff is just taxes or taxes delayed. That's it. Now let's go to the hard numbers to show you how James Woods' tweet where he says you'll be taxed at 50% even if you make $29,000 a year or lower is an understatement, not an overstatement, an understatement. Let's go to screenshot number one from this piece the math doesn't lie folks quote as long as bernie sanders remains in the race it's worth taking his policy ideas seriously since he has unveiled expensive new proposals on a near weekly basis all told sanders current plans get a load of wait for it sanders current plans would cost as much as $97.5 trillion over the next decade. Chew on that for a second. And total government spending at all levels would surge to as high as 70% of our gross domestic product.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Approximately half of the American workforce would be employed by the government, half of the American workforce would be employed by the government and the 10-year budget deficit would approach $90 trillion with average annual deficits exceeding 30% of GDP. Folks, let me put this in perspective for you now, what that means, because I know that was a lot of numbers. Yeah. Bernie's proposing $97.5 trillion in additional government spending over 10 years. Can we just, for sense of, I'm hesitant to do this, but just for the sake of ease, can we just factor that up to 100 trillion?
Starting point is 00:08:35 I'm not trying to make it worse for Bernie. I just want to keep the numbers easy so even liberals listening can understand. That's cool. So he's proposing 97.5 will round up to 100. 100 trillion over 10 years. Divided by 10 equals 10 trillion a year. Folks, do you understand what the entire
Starting point is 00:08:53 federal government spends now? He's proposing 10 trillion in new spending. The federal government now only spends 4 trillion a year. Oh. Keep in mind, Joe, keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. At the $4 trillion, we're still a trillion dollars in the red every year. Holy cow. So the tax revenue generated under a booming economy now is only $3 trillion a year. We spend $ trillion again, liberals. I know this math is tough.
Starting point is 00:09:28 So we're a trillion dollars in the red every year. Now. Yes. Even under the Trump presidency, I'm not hiding the deficits and I'm not suggesting because it's a Republican president. Any of this is a good thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm giving you the numbers because math matters. I'm not suggesting it's all Trump's fault, but I'm saying something better be done quick and no one gets a pass because you're a Republican. We are spending too much money. We raised $3 trillion. We spent $4 trillion.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Bernie's proposing an additional $10 trillion a year. Please explain to me via simple mathematics, how if we're only taxed in the economy at the rates we have now at 3 trillion, how Bernie is going to times that by a factor of four and five without raising taxes on people who make $30,000 or less, I'll wait. Of course, we don't have to wait long because what you'll understand
Starting point is 00:10:27 rather rapidly is that not only are we looking at 50% tax rates for the middle class and below, we're looking at close to 70% tax rates. Can you put that screen back up again? I'm sorry, Paul. I don't mean to get out of order here, but this is important. Ladies and gentlemen, look at this last part here so you understand what's going on. He is proposing spending that would surge to as high as 70% of GDP. Think about this. Process this. Our entire gross domestic product, the wealth and value of everything, everything the people of the United
Starting point is 00:11:06 States produce is about 22 trillion a year. Bernie Sanders is proposing government programs that would eat up 70% of that. You're talking about 20 percentage points more than half that he wants to take from you to finance his government expansion. Ladies and gentlemen, these are his proposed programs. I'm not putting words in his mouth. So again, for those who were offended, we got to speak in facts. Please tell me what part of this isn't factual.
Starting point is 00:11:38 No, no, he's only going to take 70% of GDP from the rich. Here's the problem, ladies and gentlemen. Our gross domestic product is largely produced by the middle class. You doubt me? What do you think? Okay, doubt me for a minute. Okay, I get it. You may say, well, the rich produce the majority of our GDP products and wealth. They produce a good portion of it. But ladies and gentlemen, the real money is with the middle class. Do you know what the entire value
Starting point is 00:12:10 of all of the financial assets, stocks, bonds, equities, capital accumulation, the entire value of the entire country, you know what they hold in trillions? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:21 $82 trillion. By everyone, not the rich. 401ks, middle class, poor folks who own equities. What do you think? Because people are poor, they don't own stock. The entire value of the financial assets held by the people of the United States is $82 trillion. Bernie Sanders is proposing $97.5 trillion in additional spending. Sanders is proposing $97.5 trillion in additional spending.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Ladies and gentlemen, if you wiped out the entire financial asset base of the entire United States, poor, middle class, and wealthy, you're still $15 trillion short of Bernie Sanders' new spending proposals. Again, explain to me why we're supposed to feel bad about a Twitter meeting. By the way, the Snopes reaction and the Facebook reaction, fact check, false. None of this is false. Matter of fact, it understates the tax burden you'd be facing. The entire reaction here on social media from these liberal-leaning tech companies should show you that that meme frightened them because it finally kicked Americans in the,
Starting point is 00:13:27 show you that that meme frightened them because it finally kicked Americans in the showing them exactly how much this is going to cost using basic simple math. The piece goes on. You want to put more meat on the bone? Let's talk about Bernie Sanders, communist Bernie. Quote, City Journal, Brian Rydell, the $97.5 trillion price tag is made up mostly of the cost of Bernie Sanders' three most ambitious proposals. Again, Sanders' three proposals, not mine. Sanders concedes that his Medicare for All plan would increase federal spending by somewhere between $30 and $40 trillion over a 10-year period. There's your 30 right there. He just addressed that Neanderson Cooper piece. He pledged to spend another $16.3 trillion on his climate plan. He proposes to guarantee all Americans a full-time government
Starting point is 00:14:11 job paying $15 an hour with benefits. That's estimated to cost another $30 trillion. The final $11 trillion includes $3 trillion to forgive all student loans and guarantee free public college, plus another $1.8 trillion to expand social security, $2.5 trillion on housing, $1.6 trillion on paid family leave, $1 trillion on infrastructure, $800 billion on K-12 education spending, and an additional $400 billion on higher public school teacher salaries, leading to an incredible, astounding $97.5 trillion in new government spending over 10 years, equating to roughly $10 trillion a year in a federal budget now that's only $4 trillion a year and is already $1 trillion per year in deficit. Again, please explain to me, I'm waiting, how suggesting a 50% tax rate for people making $29,000 a year was unrealistic. You're right, it is.
Starting point is 00:15:04 It's going to be closer to 60% or 70%. This is a gem, by the way. If you want to read this piece, I can't encourage you in strong enough terms to read it and keep it handy. It'll be up at the show notes. If you go to Bongino.com slash newsletter, you can subscribe to our newsletter.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'll email you these articles every day. Folks, don't fall for this nonsense. Snopes says this is false. It is false. It understates the tax burden in the Bernie era. God forbid he's elected. Let's go on again. From this City Journal piece.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Again, absolutely worth your time. This unprecedented federal outlay will more than double the size of the federal government. Over the next decade, Washington is already projected to spend $60 trillion. State and local governments will spend another $30 trillion for non-federal sources. When you add in Sanders' $97.5 trillion and then subtract the $3 trillion saved by state governments under Medicare for All, it would raise the total cost of government to $184 trillion, or again, 70%
Starting point is 00:16:07 of projected GDP over 10 years. Ladies and gentlemen, let's make the numbers real simple again for liberals listening. If Bernie Sanders is planning to spend 70% of the entire value of our economy, where do you think he's going to get the 70% from? Martians? Jupiterians? Saturnians? Money fairies?
Starting point is 00:16:28 From you. From you. No, he's just going to borrow it. Oh, no. So our grandkids he's going to take it from. With the tax money they have to spend plus the interest on the borrowed money. Where do you think this money is coming from?
Starting point is 00:16:41 This is what I found hilarious about this debate about Bernie Sanders taxing the middle class at 50%. 50? You'd be lucky to get out of this with 50% tax rates. That means his agenda didn't go through. Let me go to one more because I got a lot to get to from this City Journal piece. Totally worth your time. Quote, yet these $23 trillion in proposed taxes would still leave a staggering $90 trillion budget deficit or 34% of GDP. Closing the rest of the gap, which comes to $66,000 per household, is impossible. Given that Sanders already maximizes taxes on the wealthy and leaves the payroll tax or a VAT to raise the rest.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Here we go again. I just want you to focus on the last line here. Even seizing, ladies and gentlemen, all 80, all, all 82 trillion in household financial assets in the United States would be insufficient to cover Bernie's new plan. Dude. That sounds like close to 80, 90% tax rates to me, folks. I'm sorry. You know, new rules, ladies and gentlemen. Again, I'm not playing around. Want to get into the whole Snopes thing?
Starting point is 00:18:00 And these aren't legitimate fact checkers. They're not. Bernie never said he did say it i just did the math on bernie's programs which will cost 70 of gdp you're right he didn't say it'd be 50 he said it would be 70 of gdp which has to come from you man this isn't hard to understand that's assuming the rich folks hang around to be taxed too you know where are you going to thank you and jo Joe from Maryland, Joe,
Starting point is 00:18:26 who lives in Maryland now where I used to live is where I met Joe. Yeah. We did. Remember when we tried this in Maryland, the millionaires tax in Maryland. Yep. What happened? They lost money because the millionaires promptly left Maryland.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Just like they'll leave the United States. Just like the French wealth tax, which they had to abandon because people evacuated France and droves and took their money with them. Folks, again, I mean this. I sincerely appreciate your feedback. It always keeps me sharp. And I'm just a little surprised because I'm stunned you're taking Snopes seriously. This is exactly what Bernie's proposing. We just put the meat on the bone for you using hard numbers, using his words and his own programs. 50% tax rates. You'd be lucky for that under Bernie Sanders.
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Starting point is 00:21:41 And it's not 60 Minutes trying, they are a far left leaning outlet. It's 60 minutes. And the Democrats, ladies and gentlemen, afraid that Bernie Sanders as a socialist is going to get routed in the general. They are not trying to help Trump here. They're trying to keep Bernie off the ticket under the belief that a
Starting point is 00:22:00 better, more centrist can't centrist. They're going to have a better shot against Trump. That's all that's happening here. They played this video for him of Bernie Sanders supporting the Cuban regime. And I want you to listen to this guy's
Starting point is 00:22:13 totally ridiculous, absurd response about why Castro and him, they weren't so bad. Check this out. Back in the 1980s, Sanders had some positive things to say about the former soviet union and the sandinistas in nicaragua and everybody was totally convinced here he is explaining why the cuban people didn't rise up and help the u.s overthrow cuban leader
Starting point is 00:22:35 fidel castro he educated their kids gave them health care totally transformed the society we're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of cub. But you know, it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know, when Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing? Even though Fidel Castro did it? where I live in South Florida. One of my neighbors happens to be Cuban whose family evacuated Cuba, similar to this photo we have, by the way. Hat tip, David Harsani. If you want to see it, go to youtube.com slash Bongino. David put this photo up on his Twitter. Here are Cubans on a makeshift boat
Starting point is 00:23:17 trying to escape Bernie Sanders' Cuban literacy programs he's celebrating under Castro. Do you have any idea how many Cubans' freedom, health, businesses, property, and homes were wiped out due to the expropriation, torture, and murder of the Castro regime? Do you have any idea? I live in South Florida. I dare you to go to South Florida and start talking in the Cuban restaurant about how wonderful Castro and Maduro and Chavez are. Actually, I don't want to be responsible for what happens to you, so don't do that. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Please don't do that because I cannot be held responsible for what happens to you if you do that. Literacy programs? Literacy programs? Literacy programs. So, La Pared, right? The wall. Ask Cubans what that means. You know, Che Guevara and his revolutionaries who put Cubans up against the wall, not to ask them to
Starting point is 00:24:17 paint it, but to kill them. You know, the wall so the bullets wouldn't go through them and hit other people so they put them up against the wall. But literacy programs. This guy is a fraud, fake, phony. He is an existential threat to everything this country represents, folks. And I need the Bernie bros that have a modicum of common sense left and at least one or two functioning neurons to wake the up immediately you are
Starting point is 00:24:48 supporting a man who has supported murderers that's his words not mine i have been warning you about this guy for two years i take that back four years since the last election. We have been all over this. He is an existential threat to your business, your wallet, your freedom of religion, your kids' education, your health care, and everything that makes this country great. This is not a joke. I said this weekend on Fox, and I meant it on Jesse Watershow. Are we really doing this right now? Is the United States about to nominate a communist?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Supporting murderers? I wonder what the literacy rate was in the Soviet gulags. But they had Muppet. They had Muppet shows. What a clown folks this is not a joke this guy has to be stopped now all right let me move on so we had the russia thing which ironically they went after bernie with the russia thing too he has none of my sympathy from that. He was the one saying Donald Trump is a Russian asset.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Good. Good. Now you can see how it goes when you make stuff up. But to see for those of you missed it last week, it came out a leak, which has been now debunked 25 different ways from Sunday that Russia's involved themselves in the 2020 election again. And they're trying to help Donald Trump. That is not what was said in the briefing. I covered that on Friday, but I want to show you how we won in a moment,
Starting point is 00:26:31 how even CNN is walking back this story. But here is Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC in one of the most embarrassing moments in media history. Lawrence O'Donnell is now number three. You know we have our dumbest people in media rankings. Everybody knows the rankings. Everybody knows Brian Stelter. Number one, always the gold medal award winner, dumbest guy in media. Number two, Chuck Todd, silver medalist tries to beat Stelter. Sometimes gets close and never beats him. He's not as dumb, although very dumb. Number three is now definitely Lawrence O'Donnell from MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Oh, he's moving on up. Watch the hilarity here. This absolute moron meltdown on the air and run with the now debunked discredited story that that the Russians are meddling in 2020 election to help Donald Trump. Listen to this idiot. We begin tonight with another test of America's ability to be shocked by Donald Trump, who has very deliberately shocked America to the point where he hopes that shock has been replaced by acceptance. The president is a Russian operative. That sounds like the description of a bad Hollywood screenplay, but it is real. And it is Vladimir Putin's greatest achievement. Decades after America's
Starting point is 00:27:52 victory in the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the president of the United States is now helping the president of Russia help the president of the United States to get reelected so that the president of Russia will have four more years of the president of the United States who he wants in the Oval Office. Holy cow. What a dope. What a moron. This is I mean, we may have to readjust our rankings if he keeps this up. It's hard to beat Chuck Todd and Stelter, especially Stelter. But we seriously may have to like jump in here
Starting point is 00:28:33 and move these things around. What? And all right, I'm going to keep, because seriously, I'll lose my mind and Paula gets annoyed when I go on too much with these idiots. Having said that, let's get to this, put some meat on the bone again here is even cnn walking back this ridiculous report that trump
Starting point is 00:28:52 is trying to help russia who has sanctioned them and is devastating their economy get re-elected it made no sense on his face cnn jeremy diamond jake tapper and Zachary Cohen. U.S. intelligence briefer appears to have overstated the assessment of 2020 Russian interference. Ladies and gentlemen, if you listen to my show on Friday, you already knew this. I had sources reach out to me early, tell me this briefing that happened. For those of you who missed the backstory on Friday,
Starting point is 00:29:18 a briefer went up to Capitol Hill, gave a briefing where she seemed to indicate that Trump was the preferred choice of Vladimir Putin. That is not what was said. That was what the Democrats leaked. That is not at all what was said. It doesn't comport with common sense.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Apparently, the briefer was roundly laughed at by a bunch of Congress people who knew better, who said, let me get this straight. Trump sanctioning their economy, wrecking the Russian economy right now and providing lethal weapons to their enemies in Ukraine. And yet Putin wants more of that. Rather than the Soviet Union supporting Bernie Sanders who loves their Muppet shows. Ladies and gentlemen, when something smells really bad,
Starting point is 00:29:58 don't eat it. This thing stunk to the heavens. Now, all of a sudden people who were in the briefing and heard the entire briefing said, that's not what was said to the heavens. Now, all of a sudden, people who were in the briefing and heard the entire briefing said, that's not what was said in the briefing. And even CNN has been forced to walk this thing back now. That's not what the assessment was. Now, now that we've thrown that aside and eliminated that garbage. And by the way, for as much as I can't stand Soviets supporting fraud, phony, fake Bernie Sanders, that story about them wanting Bernie,
Starting point is 00:30:31 I got to be honest with you, I'm not sure about that either. I don't feel bad for Bernie that it leaked. Bernie was more than happy, by the way, to run with the allegations Trump was a Russian asset. Now that it's coming back on Bernie, remember his briefing leaked too. Oh, they may be supporting Bernie. They may be. Folks, I've got to tell you, I don't trust anything right
Starting point is 00:30:48 now coming out of the IC. I'm sorry. Not with regard to elections. I don't. I'm very sorry. I don't mean to offend anybody. I love our people who put their butts on the line to gather intel. I'm sure 99% of them are great people. I'm sure of that. The problem is there are people at the top who clearly have a political, not an intelligence agenda, which is exactly what Mike Flynn warned us about. And that's why he's the subject of a witch hunt. I don't trust any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm sorry. I don't. And I encourage you to do your own homework too. So ridiculous. What's going on right now. All right, let me get to this New York times report because this is important. So there was a New York times story that came out this weekend, ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:31:27 that should scare everybody again because whenever the New York Times gets out ahead of a story, it should tell you one thing. They are desperate to set and transform the narrative before the actual story gets out. Remember, the New York Times was the first to break the Azra Turk story. Azra Turk was the FBI spy asset, sent to spy on George Papadopoulos. And they did that for one reason, to get out of the head of the story and make sure that the story wasn't FBI politically motivated spies on the Trump campaign. The story was what when the Times broke it? Confidential informant used against a Trump associate.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You know what I'm saying? They want to contour the story to take the edge off. That way, when the story comes out, political spying on the Trump campaign happened at the FBI. The New York Times, you say, no, no, that's not what happened. We covered this months ago. Look at this. So the story comes out this week.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And check this story out. I want to go to the first thing because here's what's happening. They're desperate to get out ahead of two things. The Durham report and something else that happened this weekend, which I'll get to in a moment. It's buried down in the piece. Headline, New York Times, national security wiretap system was long plagued by risk of errors and omissions.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So now the New York Times is acknowledging that they wiretap people. I thought that was all a big conspiracy theory. But notice how the headline again is massaging the narrative. You got a massage therapist out there with the elbows or Reiki or whatever they do. They're desperate to do this now. Reflexology pushes on. This is what they're doing. They're trying to get a...
Starting point is 00:33:00 No, no, no. No, no, Joe. This program was plagued with problems for a long time well can we employ the dan bongino translator here the dan bongino translator here's what they really mean folks this wasn't a political targeting of donald trump this has been going on for a long time and it's a cultural thing at the f. Why, why, why, why, why, why are they trying to avoid this?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Because the narrative that is the most devastating to the Democrats, which is true. I have video is that the FBI was politically biased at the upper levels and targeted Donald Trump. They can't have that out there. Let's go to takeaway number one from the New York Times piece. Let me show you how they massage it. That's the narrative they don't want.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It wasn't politics. It's a cultural thing. New York Times quote, the problems may be part of a broader pattern. Oh, here we go, Joe. It's a cultural thing at the FBI. Maybe part of a broader pattern in other applications that never received the same
Starting point is 00:34:05 intense scrutiny. According to interviews, of course, anonymous interviews with DOJ officials and FBI officials. The system is vulnerable, they said, these anonymous sources, to lower level agents. Here we go. Throw in the lower level agents under the bus. Suppressing or overlooking evidence that weakens their case when they seek permission to conduct surveillance. You get it? You get it? Dan Bongino, translator. This was not political targeting by the FBI, the Trump team, Joe. Under any circumstances, it's a cultural problem.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It's happened before. And it's these low-level guys and gals that are doing it. It's not an institutional thing at the high levels. Those guys, Comey, McCabe, they're above reproach. thing at the high levels those guys comey mccabe they're above reproach it's the low level guys they're really horrible look what they did it's a cultural thing there oh it gets better remember what they're trying to get away from yeah and you'll be able to translate where they're going they're trying to get away from the you'll be able to translate where they're going. They're trying to get away from the truth, which is the FBI and the Obama administration spied on their political
Starting point is 00:35:12 political opponents. They can't have that. Takeaway number two from the New York Times piece as they do the dance here, which is just fantabulous watching them do this, especially when you can employ translators like Wieckam. The FBI's misuse of its powers under the FISA Act has been politicized to a degree it never was in the Robert Hansen case. He was the infamous FBI
Starting point is 00:35:35 spy on the inside. Where an inspector general's discovery of the failures attracted little notice. Did you catch it? So now in the first paragraph of this come back to me for me i want to go back yeah first paragraph yeah did you catch what they did there yes i did they're they're trying to get away from the trump political targeting and now they're blaming anyone looking into the abuse of the fires of course to spy on trump for politicizing
Starting point is 00:36:03 it this is amazing This is amazing. This is amazing. And by the way, who wrote this piece? Adam Goldman, famed Russian collusion hoaxer, a guy with zero credibility with anyone. They leaked to him the bureau when they want to get out ahead of a story. So the story now, according to Goldman, is not only going to be there's no political spying. It was a cultural thing.
Starting point is 00:36:23 according to Goldman is not only going to be there's no political spying it was a cultural thing but you looking into the Pfizer process is politicizing the story and you're the problem did you catch that put that up again please I'm sorry to keep going back and forth here I'm driving the the excellent production crew here crazy which is me and Paul the crew it's crew it's two of us that's a crew they're saying the FBIbi's misuse of its pfizer powers has been politicized to a degree it never was in other cases they're blaming you yeah you did this this remember tucker carlson's line whatever the democrats accuse you of they're doing themselves so this is the fbi's warning that through adam goldman their leak don't you dare politicize this and we'll accuse you of being political.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It goes on. The piece. Quote, President Trump and his supporters have long embraced a theory. A theory? That Carter Page was a victim of a high-level political conspiracy? That's a theory? I'm unaware of that being a theory, Joe. I'm pretty sure that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It goes on. The Inspector General report did not confirm that narrative. Instead finding different yet still serious problems. That is not true. That is not true, ladies and gentlemen. It is
Starting point is 00:37:40 not true as Adam Goldman noted collusion hoaxer. Zero credibility fake news specialist. Zero. It is not true as Adam Goldman noted collusion hoaxer, zero credibility, fake news specialist, zero. It is not true that they did not find political bias in the targeting of Carter Page, who worked on the Trump campaign and was spied on. That is not true. Now, in order to not repeat the same mistakes and talking and broad overviews on Friday, like the Bernie Sanders thing, again, to use the line I've used only 100 times, let's put actual meat on the bone here. Let's go to Michael Horowitz, the inspector general who looked into the political spying on the Trump campaign and listen to his own words. A couple of things here.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I got three cuts. We'll go through one at a time. The word, but he doesn't eliminate political bias as a motive. Wait, that's what the New York times said. They said, no,
Starting point is 00:38:33 no evidence was found. That's not what he said. Matter of fact, at some points, he seems to point to political bias as the only possible explanation. And then at the end, let's point to Horowitz himself that the FBI knew this thing was BS the whole time let's go to cut number one where he clearly lays out granted Horowitz always
Starting point is 00:38:52 talks in circuitous terms because he never wants to give the media a soundbite this is him clearly indicating he did find political bias contrary to fake Russian collusion hoaxer Adam Goldman what he says this piece. Check this out. But you definitely, in both these investigations, you found political bias. We found, through the text messages, evidence of people's political bias, correct. Also, political motivation. For example, Bruce Ord talked about how Christopher Steele was desperate to make sure that President Trump didn't become president.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Well, as to Mr. Steele, that was, of course, a very important part of this discussion is when they understood his motivations and his potential bias. And we have the November statement from Mr. Orr that he had been told by Mr. Steele that he was desperate to prevent. So again, so folks, to prevent so again so folks uh keep in mind if you're watching and listening to or reading new york times content do you understand you're you're being lied to with just impunity that is not what harwood said understand goldman's narrative in this story is there's no evidence of political bias the fbi didn't politically spy on Trump. Follow me here. It's a cultural problem and some low-level agents did it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 That's his story. None of that is true. None of that is true. You just heard Horowitz himself. He found rampant political bias in the texts, in the decision by Bruce Ohr to talk to Steele, even though Steele indicated himself he was politically biased. What part of this are the journalists missing? He goes on.
Starting point is 00:40:33 This is Patrick Leahy, Democrat Senator, and we start, that was Ron Johnson, Republican Senator from Wisconsin, asking this question. Here's Pat Leahy trying to take the sting out of what Horowitz said at the briefing. This briefing happened a while ago. But it's not hard to find. I found it in two seconds on Twitter. This is Patrick Leahy trying to take the sting out of it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And he still can't do it because Horowitz still has to admit that he can't eliminate rampant political bias as the only motive for doing this. Check this out. as the only motive for doing this. Check this out. Is it correct that you found no evidence that the investigation was motivated by anti-Trump or political bias? Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:41:12 We found no evidence that the initiation of the investigation was motivated by political bias. It gets murkier. The question gets more challenging, Senator, when you get to the FISA and when you get to the other, when you get to the attorney's actions, for example, in connection with that FISA. Did they have a duty to report to their supervisors and eventually to the court
Starting point is 00:41:34 its sculptural information? Absolutely. They did not? They did not. Why? That's the question I can't specifically answer for you. Can you say it wasn't because of political bias? On decisions regarding those FISA matters, I do not know their state of mind at this point. Folks, that's his own words, the inspector general. Joe did not mess with that. It's a complete cut.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Now, it's obviously edited for time, but that soundbite, we're not messing with that. That was Lindsey Graham and Patrick Leahy directly asking him, can you eliminate political bias basically as a reason for the FBI spying on the Trump team with the FISA war? He can't. Now, combine that with what he said before. He found rampant evidence of political bias throughout the investigation. It's his own words. The New York Times is lying to you.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Why? I haven't even gotten to that yet because something else is happening. I want to play one more cut here because it's important. Here is Horowitz again confirming that as early as January of 2017, the FBI interviewed Steele's sources. Steele is the only source for the FISA warrant to spy on Trump that matters. It's his information used to spy on Trump. Here's Horowitz reiterating for the umpteenth thousandth time that by January of 2017, before the warrant's been renewed two more times to spy on the Trump team, for the umpteenth thousandth time, that by January of 2017,
Starting point is 00:43:07 before the warrants been renewed two more times to spy on the Trump team, the FBI knows this is total garbage. Listen to Horowitz tell the story if you don't believe me. The Crossfire Hurricane team obtained information from Steele's primary subsource in January 2017 that raised significant questions about the reliability of the Steele reporting. This was particularly noteworthy because the FISA applications relied entirely
Starting point is 00:43:28 on information from the primary subsources reporting to support the allegation that Page was coordinating with the Russian government on 2016 U.S. presidential election activities. Folks, again, you know, if you're not watching this show, you're probably missing out on all this. There is the inspector general himself indicating that he found rampant political bias, that when it comes to the FISA warrant explanations for spying, the explanations get very murky as to why they did it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Admitting that the people involved had political bias, then telling you that he can't possibly explain why after January of 2017, they still continued to spy on the Trump team because the sources they were using had already been fully discredited. Again, if you're reading the New York times, my sincere apologies that you missed all that. Now there's a couple other nuggets in this New York Times piece,
Starting point is 00:44:25 because I said to you, it's, why are they trying to get out ahead of, why are they telling you a narrative now? They're trying to get out ahead of the Durham report, they're trying to cut off at the knees the narrative and the true story that this was politically motivated. They want to cut
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Starting point is 00:46:27 If you haven't bought your tickets, go today. It's the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C. Producer Joe will be there as well. You always know Producer Joe. He's the Elvis-looking dude. So you can, remember that? We said that one year
Starting point is 00:46:38 and everybody picked you out right away. Well, now you know him. You see him on the YouTube show. But back then, it was just an audio show. Okay, what else is the FBI trying to get out ahead of by leaking to the New York times and their, their transcriber, Adam Goldman, check out this from the New York times. What was coming up for renewal? Oh, check this out. The timing is being driven by the pending expiration of three investigative powers, unrelated to the page wiretap issues, but including the FBI's ability
Starting point is 00:47:06 to collect business records for espionage or terrorism cases. The draft bill would extend those powers while ending legal authority for a defunct system that gave counterterrorism analysts with the National Security Agency access to logs of Americans' phone calls.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Isn't the timing here just fantabulous? So the Bureau is under scrutiny. There's some draft bills out there to renew and renegotiate some spying powers they have, spying powers that we know were abused for political reasons. And conveniently, a leak comes out right to the New York Times as negotiators up on Capitol Hill and politicians are negotiating re-upping some of these powers in an effort to get out ahead of a story that's coming out that the FBI is engaged in political spying. Ladies and gentlemen, the timing on this couldn't be more apropos. The Bureau can't have this story out there that they spied on a presidential candidate
Starting point is 00:48:02 for political reasons, although we all know that. she just heard Horowitz basically say it himself he's trying to dance but you know exactly what Horowitz was saying he played his own words they can't have that out there because the bureau wants to continue with these powers which by the way I've said I've said and exonerated my book and I'll say again on the air and I've said repeatedly and I've been entirely consistent on from when I ran for office till now. You want to spy on an American citizen, get a warrant. Get a warrant.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Get a warrant. End of story. Get a warrant. You want to spy on foreigners outside the United States? Do your thing. I don't care. They don't have constitutional protections. You want to spy on an American? Here, anywhere around the world, we are citizens
Starting point is 00:48:48 of this country entitled to big R God-given rights. Get a warrant. Make your case. Raise your right hand and swear that you have probable cause that this person is guilty of this crime. Get a warrant. Convenient how all this leaks out right before some of those powers may be disappearing in front of the FISA court. One last thing here from the New York Times
Starting point is 00:49:13 story. This is the nothing to see here part. Don't worry, the FBI politically spied on a presidential candidate for years, even when they knew and people involved with his candidacy, even when they knew the case was total bunk, they spied on him. They employed human assets, human spy assets, signals, intelligence, all that stuff. There's nothing to see here, folks. Check this out. Last takeaway from the New York Times. But similar flaws with surveillance have surfaced before, Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Nothing to worry here. Don't worry. Underscoring that the problems may be systemic. That's a culture thing. Rather than unique to the page applications, current and formal officials said, folks, come on, come on, come on, guy. Come on, you believe this?
Starting point is 00:50:00 That's the nothing to see here. This has happened before. It's a minor culture problem with low-level guys. We can fix it. Notice the line in there. It wasn't specific to Paige. Because the, why? Why do they say that?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Why, why, why, why? Think about it. Because if the spying and the abuse of the FISA process was specific to Paige, which is what it is, and the only reasons for spying and the abuse of the Pfizer process was specific to page, which is what it is. And the only reasons for spying on page were political. Then the story is even more devastating than it is now that the FBI singled out the Trump campaign at behest of the Obama administration,
Starting point is 00:50:37 the CIA and others to politically spy in their opposition. So what's their version? There's nothing to see here. It's happened before. It's not specific to page.'s not political no worries everybody just let this right over your head make it all go bye-bye adam goldman this guy is like an i mean he's the reverse to woodward bernstein i mean back in the day you thought they cared about corruption at the highest levels. Now they're just here to carry water for these institutions that want to protect their own. What a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Total disgrace. Two pager today. All right. I want to break some or unbreak some news here too far. I got to move on. But you get the whole point there. It was political. They want these powers renewed. They don't want that story out there critical critical analysis and translation of
Starting point is 00:51:29 that so a story came out i didn't tell joe about this before the show paula saw it last night i saw this at axios jonathan swan put it out breaking news dan bongino and others were recommended for spots in the Trump administration. This was it. This was the break. And this was like a big story this weekend. Oh my gosh. Axios scoop.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm not going to put the Axios thing up because there's this story. So dumb. I'm sorry. Jonathan Swan's a nice guy. I don't mean to beef with him and I get it. He's, you know, they're in the business of breaking news and click bait stuff. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But I never got what the gist of the story was. But given that I'm in the story, I wanted to put out a statement here because you're my audience and we don't run from anything. You're entitled to know what's going on. Do it, bro. So Washington Examiner has a piece up about it. Clarence Thomas's wife, Ginny Thomas. I mean, she's got a name, by the way, guys.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Come on. Clarence Thomas's wife, Ginny. I'm going to add that in there. She didn't even add that. She does a lot in and of herself. She's not only Clarence Thomas' wife. Among conservative activists leading Trump efforts to compile a deep state hit list. Now, listen, I like Caitlin. I like whatever. I'm sorry if I'm saying your name wrong. I have to watch the examiner. I like the examiner too, but that's kind of a dumb title. It was not a hit list. Ginny Thomas and a group groundswell that years ago,
Starting point is 00:52:45 it's just a conservative group that meets in D.C., folks. It's not a big mystery. I used to go in and I haven't been to a meeting in a very long time, but I have a lot of friends in there. They're conservative activists. There's nothing more. It's not a complicated endeavor. Breaking news, conservative group in D.C. supports conservative policies. Apparently compiled a
Starting point is 00:53:01 list of people that they would recommend for positions in the administration. I was on that list for some Homeland Security or counterterrorism spot. Let me just clear up a couple of things. I had to write this down because I'm trying to get what the scoop is. You should be too. You're like, this is a story. I'm embarrassed I have to cover this for you. Yeah, that's where I'm at at so i wrote down what the headline really is the president's political allies are exposing his ideological opponents and recommending replacements if you're like that sounds like a pretty dumb story that's because it is this is a story that political allies of the president
Starting point is 00:53:44 want political allies of the president in political appointments. That's the story. That is the story. Now, because I'm not going to waste any more time on this. Again, I'm not making it personal. Jonathan Swan's a nice guy. I met him at Politicon one time. He's very nice.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And I get it. But this is not a story. I want to be Politicon one time. He's very nice. And I get it. You got to, but this is not a story. I want to be crystal clear on this. These are friends of mine. I do know these people and I have a ton of respect for Ginny Thomas. But the fact that they recommended me for a job, one, I'm not going to take and would never have taken. And secondly, let me be clear.
Starting point is 00:54:24 That job mentioned there, I was never ever offered or approached by anybody in the White House about. Anyone is not a story. It is not a story. There are a lot of significant political activists around the country that email and watch my show. If you email the White House and and say hey i think dan bongino would be a good fbi director that is not a story i'm sorry it's not interesting i don't i genuinely don't know what the angle is here friends of the president recommend friends of the president to support the president's agenda good scoop there fellas well at least you got your name out there. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I guess. What did Gary Gannou say? You know, no Gannous is good Gannous with Gary Gannou. Remember the Great Space Coaster? I'm talking way over the head of anyone under the age of 40 right now. But if you're 40 or above, you know exactly what I'm talking about. All right. No Gannou.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Folks, I don't get it i don't it's you know my name is getting thanks to your support and the growing importance of our show in the conservative ecosystem we are the number two conservative podcast in the entire country now the show has grown in importance and i've the bullseye on my back has grown too yes it has because a lot of these people put our names in there, the show and what we do in their stories, knowing people will click on it. Folks, it's not a story.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay? Sorry. I was never, ever offered that job or even contacted about it by anybody. It's not a story. Okay, moving on.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I want to put this one out there to be in the show notes. This is a Hillary story that I got to tell you, I think is far-fetched. I'm beyond the prediction game now. I'm not saying this one out there to be in the show notes. This is a Hillary story that I got to tell you, I think is far-fetched. I'm beyond the prediction game now. I'm not saying this can't happen, but it's floating around.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I want it out there on the show. It'd be our final story of the day. It's quick, it's easy, but it sounds a little bit far-fetched to me, but I'd be remiss if I didn't address it. Washington Examiner covers it well again today, but all of these stories will be in the show notes, bongino.com slash newsletter.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Please check them out. Ex-Bill Clinton advisor, they're talking about dick morris bloomberg and hillary are cooking up a scheme for her to become the democratic nominee by the same author caitlin uh you like forgive me again if i'm saying your name wrong folks it's a i i don't buy this here's the gist of it put up the screenshot from the piece. Dick Morris, who used to be on Fox and elsewhere, is suggesting that Bernie Sanders, the front runner, is going to get destroyed in the general election, basically, and everybody knows it. So his prediction is that Hillary Clinton would enter the race
Starting point is 00:56:57 on a second ballot at a brokered convention. Let me translate all this for you. He's saying this, that Bloomberg's not in this race to win. This is his theory, not mine. That Bloomberg's not in this race to win. This is his theory, not mine. That Bloomberg is not in the race to win. He's in the race to pull delegates away from Bernie Sanders. Enough delegates so that Bernie can't get the nomination at the convention. Can't get the nomination on the first ballot.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Now, at the Democrat National Convention, where they nominate their candidate for president. If you don't have enough delegates on the first ballot, that's what's known as a brokered convention. It will go to a second ballot. His theory is at that point, it's open season. Hillary will jump on in the second ballot. Other candidates will then in turn drop out. Hillary will be the anointed one. And that Bloomberg, who knows, could be her VP or otherwise.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Folks, I find this very, very, very hard to believe because I get it. And I've got, I received a ton of email from listeners. Dan, cover this on the show. Couple reasons. Folks, that would cause absolute chaos with the Bernie bros. You would see convention walkouts. You would see mass protests in the general election, third party write-ins. I can't see any scenario where if Bernie's leading in the delegate count over multiple ballots, even though he doesn't have enough delegates to get the nomination, but has the most and more than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:58:22 but has the most and more than anyone else. I see no scenario where the Democrats would be dumb enough to nullify the entire primary caucus process and give it to someone who finished beneath Bernie, no less Hillary Clinton, who got no votes at all in this cycle. Interesting theory worth throwing out there. I see no plausible scenario where that happens. None. Hillary Clinton's time has come and gone. If it does, again, I'm not in the predictions game. You never know. Hillary's zeal for power
Starting point is 00:58:52 could overwhelm all of this and it could get really ugly. I'm just telling you, I see that as a very low probability event. Can we just put up that one final photo? One more thing. I know I said it was the last time, but I just want to put this up. Unbelievable photo from Trump, President Trump in India today. If you missed it, I was on Fox and Friends this morning talking about the security, how the security in India has got to be top notch with the Secret Service operation they pull off over there is incredible. Here's a quick photo. You see Trump is given a speech at the stadium. A hundred thousand plus people, ladies and gentlemen, showed up in India to hear President Trump give another magnificent speech.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Again, you want to talk about looking presidential while the Democrats are rolling on with their Russia conspiracy theories, their socialism garbage, their 90 plus percent spending plans, 70% tax rates. Quite a contrast, huh? You look great doing it.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We'll see you back in the United States at CPAC at the end of the week, and I will see you there. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks again for tuning in. Really appreciate it. Please subscribe to our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Bongino, and subscribe to our audio show on Apple Podcasts, all free. We really appreciate it. Helps us move up the charts. Thanks again. See you all tomorrow. You can also get Dan's podcasts on iTunes or SoundCloud and follow Dan on Twitter 24-7 at DBongino.

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