The Dan Bongino Show - You'll Never Believe The Left's Latest Ridiculous Tactic | Episode 64
Episode Date: June 13, 2025The crazed leftists are reinvigorated to full force in trying to spin one of their own colleagues' outbursts into a story of a fascist regime. Also in this episode: Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons joi...ns us to discuss the happenings in LA and the rest of the country. Israel strikes Iran, as Trump officials say no U.S. military support https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/12/iran-israel-nuclear-us-trump/ Israeli Strikes Kill 3 Top Iranian Generals and Target Nuclear Sites https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/world/israel-iran-us-nuclear Padilla cuffed, McIver indicted: Can Congress come back from the brink? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/padilla-cuffed-mciver-indicted-congress-come-back-brink Sponsors: Beam - shopbeam.com/VINCESHOWPatriot Mobile - Patriot Mobile dot com/VINCEBon Charge - boncharge.com and use the code VINCEBlackout Coffee - BlackoutCoffee.com/Vince Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Everybody welcome Friday edition events. Good to be with you and holy cow breaking news overnight
as Israel strikes within the heart of Iran. We'll get to the details of what we know as a Friday
morning. Also we've got to get to this ridiculous senator who nobody's ever heard of from California
Alex Padilla attempting to make a name for himself. He'd like his own George Floyd style nationwide rioting.
Will he get it? We'll explore that as well. And importantly today, the Director of Immigration
and Customs Enforcement, Todd Lyons, the Acting ICE Director, will join us right here on VINCE.
We've got a lot to talk about. When are we going to get to 3,000 illegals being deported each and every day? And what is going on with our ICE agents? How under threat are they right
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Vince show and get up to 40 percent off. Okay. So a couple of things going on in my life.
One, yes, it's Friday, so I'm in the home studio.
So that means we've got our boy Major hanging out with us today.
Major in studio with me.
Always love having Major by.
Major's tired today because he spent last night being so excited that producer Jim and
his lovely wife stopped by my place.
We had a nice dinner together.
It was great. It was great seeing Producer Jim all week. He was here in Washington, D.C.
He and his wife were, and we just had a total blast. And I think for those of you who are
tracking Producer Jim and Dan Bongino, they've got a great friendship. Producer Jim announced
on the radio show that he did get a chance to see Dan this week.
And Dan says hello to everybody out there
in the Bongino Army.
And he's rooting you on just like you're rooting him on.
So a nice update there from producer Jim.
And it was great to see him.
Now in the midst of our dinner last night,
we were drinking fine bourbons
and having a great time with one of the, I'm
starting to get all these messages on my phone that there's a war breaking out, that Israel is
now striking Iran. And I went into the evening thinking that this whole show is going to be
about a ridiculous United States Senator called Alex Padilla. Don't worry, we'll get to you,
Padilla. But the breaking news overnight, of course, is Israel did strike Iran.
And speaking of Israel striking Iran, I do have to say to Israel's credit, the ruthless
efficiency of the way that they strike targets that they want to take out is something to
behold.
They really know how to find the people that they're looking to kill. And they did
it again last night. There's a check out some of this. You do have a bunch of major targets
in Tehran that were hit here, including Mohammed Bagheri is the commander in chief of Iran's
military. He's dead now. He's dead. He's the second highest commander in the entire Iranian military behind
the supreme leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini. He's gone. Hossein Salami, they really had a guy called
General Salami, the commander in chief of the IRGC. He's dead. He was that IRGC, the Islamic
Revolutionary Guard Corps. That's the key military force in Iran. So that guy's gone.
They also got rid of the deputy commander in chief of the armed forces. They also got rid of the
leader of the airspace unit of the IRGC. They also killed off a former Navy commander who was
in the nuclear talks with the United States. This guy was responsible for overseeing our
negotiations. So curious whether or not that's going to put a damper on the United States. This guy was responsible for overseeing our negotiations.
So curious whether or not that's gonna put a damper
on the negotiating phase with Iran.
And also a couple of scientists who are involved
in Iran's nuclear program,
all taken out in these targeted strikes.
Not to mention that they were hitting Iranian military bases
and Iranian nuclear facilities,
including the main Iranian nuclear facility
where they're doing in Richmond.
So big strikes overnight from Israel
and it's really, that was a decapitation mission.
They're taking out all of the upper ranks
of the military leadership all at once.
And it's left Iran, as you might imagine,
scrambling to come up with some sort of organization
about how they respond.
Now Iran this morning is promising massive responses. There's already
been reports that they've launched a bunch of drones in Israel's direction. As of this
time right now, we're at 10.06 a.m. Eastern. Israel apparently is successfully stopping
or at least mitigating any such drone attacks. But we've got something, we've got a hot war,
of course, going on. And Israel has really been something, we've got a hot war, of course, going on.
And Israel has really been on the receiving end
of a hot war because Iran's proxies, Hamas and Hezbollah
and all these crazy terror groups
have been attacking Israel.
So this just continues.
But here's what I wanna know this morning.
And here's what I want, you know, of course,
I think what most of us wanna know.
Where does it go from here?
And how do we see to American interests in the midst of all of this?
Because that's our central concern.
I get what Israel's trying to do.
But our central concern is what is the right thing to do for America?
And I have to tell you, yesterday, the President of the United States spoke about the possibility
of military conflict of an Israeli strike. He was asked by Peter Ducey at a press conference yesterday
about negotiating with Iran
and whether or not an Israeli strike would change things.
Here's what the president said yesterday,
just hours before the actual strike took place.
Take a look here, this will be cut 15,
the president of the United States saying,
he wants a deal with Iran.
Look, I want to have an agreement with Iran.
We're fairly close to an agreement.
We are fairly close to a pretty good agreement.
It's got to be better than pretty good though, but it's got to be, I much prefer an agreement.
As long as I think there is an agreement, I don't want them going in because I think
I would blow it.
Might help it actually, but it also could blow it.
But we've had very good discussions with Iran.
Whether or not we get there, I can't tell you,
but it'll happen soon.
I say this, Peter, very strongly.
They can't have, whether it's going in or not going in,
they can't have a nuclear weapon.
I'd prefer the more friendly path. He says'd prefer the more friendly path.
He says he prefers the more friendly path. Now, I will say, also in that press conference
yesterday, the president said that he's concerned that if Israel goes in, they may ruin the
prospect for a deal. That's what he said yesterday. If Israel goes in, they could ruin it. He
also said it might actually improve
the odds of a deal too. So he's kind of leaving that up in the air. But what I'm concerned about
this morning is, first of all, you know, Iran, you're idiots for not making a deal with the
president in the first place. The president gave you 60 days, now 62 days ago, and you never made
a deal. He gave you that ultimatum and, you know,
apparently you let it ride out. And now, of course, Israel is taking advantage of this
opportunity to say, okay, that that window is closed. So let's go after a run. Also, Marco
Rubio released, I would say, a very important statement on all of this overnight. Tonight,
Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes
against Iran, and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region. Israel advised us
that they believe this action was necessary for its self-defense. President Trump and the administration
have taken all necessary steps to protect our forces and remain in close contact with our
regional partners. Let me be clear, Iran should not target US interests
or personnel.
That's Marco Rubio.
So Rubio coming out last night issuing, I think a pretty clear distance statement saying,
look, Israel's doing this on their own.
It's up to them.
We were not involved in these strikes, he said.
Now, does that mean that US intelligence was not involved
in assisting Israel?
Well, no, he didn't say that.
He just said we were not involved in strikes against Iran.
And then importantly here,
the administration is giving this warning.
Don't touch an American service member.
Don't touch Americans, Iran at all.
Now that said, Iran is this morning blaming both Israel
and the United States saying that Israel's attack
was only made possible by the United States.
So we will keep tracking this.
The president of the United States talking
to Benjamin Netanyahu today.
We also know that he's receiving a big national security
briefing this morning.
So whatever other
developments come out of this, we're going to keep track of. And as always, you know, hopefully,
you know, we can trust the president here, trust that the president is going to focus on
prioritizing what's in the American interest here, what we what can we do to look after our people
here and to hopefully contain this conflict.
Lastly, on this issue of whether or not Israel was freelancing as they took this strike,
because the president was saying, look, this may jeopardize negotiations if they do.
Steve Wyckoff is still supposed to do these negotiations this weekend.
The State Department, the United States government is saying right now that he still wants to
go to Oman and meet with Iran to have these negotiations.
But I do think that the prospects for that have dimmed dramatically, especially with
Iran now saying that the United States is to blame for the attack.
So again, we will keep tracking them.
All right, here we go.
We've also got these ludicrous, have you noticed that one of the only reasons
you are aware of the names of so many Democrats is because of how idiotic they act in public?
That has nothing to do with their positions of leadership whatsoever. It has nothing to do with
them being, you know, like good negotiators. It's just how stupid can they be?
You know, you know that Congressman Sri Tendahar,
the guy who's trying to impeach Trump all the time
with the funny Indian accent?
He's the only reason we know who he is
is because he's trying to impeach Trump all the time
and he's got a funny Indian accent.
That's the truth.
Jasmine Crockett, you know, AOC,
these people are ludicrous figures.
Eric Swalwell and his Fang Fang episode.
One of the only reasons you're aware of them
is because of how mentally ill they are
and how much that is on display in public.
And so yesterday, another Democrat tried to join their ranks.
His name is Alex Padilla.
He's a United States Senator from Canada.
If I were to just show up and ask you, hey, quick,'s a United States Senator from Canada. If I were to just show up and ask you,
hey, quick, name a United States Senator,
did I say Canada?
California.
Name a United States Senator from California.
You might be able to pull up Adam Schiff,
old pencil neck, another one of these guys
who's only known for being mentally ill in public,
Adam Schiff.
But the other guy, who's the other guy?
Is it a guy?
Is it a girl?
Who's the other person who's the United States Senator
from California?
It's Alex Padilla, apparently.
Apparently it's Senator Alex Padilla.
And this detail was so poorly known that yesterday,
when he showed up to a press conference
that Christie Noem, the DHS secretary was doing,
no one knew who he was.
And so security tackled him.
Take a look, cut two.
Here's California Senator Alex Padilla
in a desperate ploy for attention,
barging into a press conference with the DHS secretary
and then heckling her.
Look at this.
Senator Alex Padilla, I have a question for the secretary
because the fact of the matter is a half a dozen criminals that you're rotating on your
I oh I had a good belly laugh when I saw that yesterday
That's so that's so funny and so freaking well deserved, unreal.
Padilla is an absurd figure.
Now that seemed relatively nice.
They just grabbed the guy by the armpits.
They brought him out in the hallway.
By the way, they put him down on the ground.
They put the handcuffs on him.
They were gentle with him and they took him out of the room.
Now for this, he wants to be the next George Floyd.
He wants this to be
an international incident. Alex Padilla is demanding riots and protests and street violence,
obviously, implicitly. This is what he wants. He wants to be martyred for all of this. That was
Padilla's behavior yesterday. And I'm just laughing at this because it is so preposterous. What a silly stunt on the part of this Padilla
character. Now, Padilla, just to take you through everything that starts happening.
So right away, he starts fake crying. He walks outside of the building. He's released from
custody. He walks outside of the building, gets in front of some microphones, and he
starts fake crying when recounting the trauma that we
all just witnessed. I can't even believe that. That was practically a war crime. Take a look at
Padilla and what he had to say. This is how the Department of Homeland Security responds
to a senator with a question. You can only imagine what they're doing to farm workers,
what they're doing to farm workers, to cooks, to day laborers out in the Los Angeles community and throughout California and throughout the country.
He's crying.
What a, what a wuss, what a scam this is.
So he's cooking up some crocodile tears in the midst of all of this.
Really, really funny. And then every other Democrat was just ready to go yesterday. This is so he's cooking up some crocodile tears in the midst of all of this
Really really funny and then every other democrat was just ready to go yesterday all the other democrats
They all had prepared statements ready to go. They were they were firing off like crazy
Here's adam schiff spazzing out on the senate floor over alex padilla his unknown co-senator from california
Being detained for being a psychopath. Here's Adam Schiff.
I just watched footage of our colleague,
my California colleague, Senator Alex Padilla,
being forcibly removed from a briefing by the Secretary of Homeland Security's staff.
He went there to observe and to ask questions and I watched with horror
horror on this video seeing these agents grab my colleague my fellow senator from
California grab him. What would they do Senator? As he was identifying
himself as a US senator bringing him into a hallway, bringing him down to the ground,
bringing his arms behind his back.
I saw this happen to my colleague,
and I am shocked.
Shocked?
By how far we have descended.
Oh, what a loser.
In the first 140 days of this administration.
Oh, I don't act there.
Okay, so have you noticed, by the way,
that the most exercised that the two senators
from California have become is over a publicity stunt
where one of them was temporarily detained
for looking like he was headed for the DHS secretary?
Of course the security is gonna stop
this rando from doing this.
Nobody knows who you are. Nobody knows who you are. Nobody
knows who you are. And so and what is the what's the phrase we use? Nobody is above the law.
Nobody is above the law. I don't care for you, United States Senator. This is like the Maxine
water stunt that she tried to pull earlier this week when she was trying to invade a federal
facility. And then she said, Oh, I'm here with my congressional authority. I don't what do you think
this is? You don't just chant, you know, open sesame
and all of a sudden the door pops open.
Who do you think you are?
No, nobody's allowed to pour into this.
Get in touch through the proper channels.
And so this is what these guys are doing.
They're like, it's an utter clown show.
And of course, so all the clowns are out.
It's not just Adam Schiff, Elizabeth Warren,
the fake Indian, was warbling
her discontent into a selfie camera as she was, oh, this is awful. What's happening
to our country? Take a look at Elizabeth Warren here.
When Senator Padilla gets pushed, shoved, thrown to the, handcuffed because he is asking questions,
because he is engaging in the
very oversight that senators are supposed to engage in. Oversight! What we're
really talking about here is a Trump administration that just wants to shut
down the ordinary functions of government. Look! That's her party. That's her party
that wants to do that. She's, you listen to her. She's unreal. She's oh
Oh, I just can't believe what's going on as her party, you know tries to arrest Trump over and over
What a bunch of phonies they arrest Trump they do mugshots of him
They've got some multiple lefties try to assassinate him. They put they pretend like none of that's ever happened
It's it's the right. It's the right. It's the conservatives, it's the Trump people, they're threats to democracy,
they screech. And that's Elizabeth Warren adding her goofy voice to the chorus of nonsense
yesterday trying to make Alex Padilla a thing. Trying to, nobody even knows who he is. I'm
sorry, what are you talking about? So there's Warren. When has she ever lied about anything
other than her entire heritage? Other than that, when has she ever lied about anything other than her entire heritage?
Other than that, when has she ever lied about anything?
There she is.
We have Pete Boot Edge Edge as well,
moping on camera over the arrest.
Isn't it amazing that they all went right
to their selfie cameras right away?
They all had indignant selfie videos to release.
Here's Boot Edge Edge.
Hey, it's Pete.
Like so many people around the country, I just saw something that made my stomach turn something. I
Didn't think that I would see even though he's not talking about Jerry Nadler the United States senator pushed to the ground and handcuffed
after
Asking questions
Official are we supposed to do about that? Yeah. Well, first of all we name what just happened
Name it baby that the Trump government has crossed one of the reddest of red lines that can exist in a free society
What a goofball any
His entire party has crossed the red line or American greatness is completely hollow
If you do not respect the freedoms
that that flag represents, the constitution.
What a scam.
That directs the course of this country.
Don't you love this?
Enough of this guy.
Don't you love that they're waving the constitution
in your face?
Don't you know the constitution?
Yeah, actually, it's our side that knows the constitution.
It's our side that's deeply familiar with the Constitution, has a lot of respect for
it, and a lot of respect for the founders of this country.
It's your side that's crapping all over it on a routine basis.
And so one of the laws of this country is you don't get to go barreling towards the
Secretary of Homeland Security, and it is an obligation of the security around her to
protect her from that.
Here's an update from the deputy director, Dan Bongino, on all of this of the FBI.
He said, with regard to the incident in L.A.
this afternoon, the senator in question was not wearing a security pin
and physically resisted law enforcement when confronted.
Oh, our FBI personnel acted completely appropriately while assisting Secret Service.
And we are grateful for their professionalism and service. Now, I have to tell you something
about this statement from Dan. This, I read this statement, and I once again, I don't know why I
get so amused by the news, but I laughed again at this yesterday because I was thinking, just imagine
if this was like podcast Dan, what he would be saying.
I love that this is like an official statement from Dan, with regard to the incident in LA this afternoon,
it's very buttoned up.
What would podcast Dan be saying right now?
Fuck around, find out.
These are the consequences.
Go ahead, barrel towards the DHS secretary
and see your ass get laid out.
They were nice, they were gentle with Alex Padilla.
And there's Dan Bongino
with the official statement yesterday.
Really, really funny.
Okay, those are some of the updates.
Padilla, well, I've got more for you.
I can't help it.
I've got so much more for you actually on this.
We're gonna get to that in a second.
And also, you know, Padea who's being silenced
is like all over cable news now.
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That is, I do think that the Dan statement is really funny
because it's just, it's Dan's gotta do the government version
of Dan right now, but there he was.
Love seeing that.
Okay, let's get into some of the other goofballs
who are trying to turn this, what's the guy's name?
Padilla, Alex Padilla?
Again, never heard of this guy.
Jamie Raskin released a video of himself
mall walking across the Congress.
He's a speedwalker now.
He was walking, he was storming towards John Thune's office.
He even buttoned up his jacket for the occasion.
Look at this.
Look at this guy.
Oh, this is serious.
Look at him.
Look at the serious face.
He's walking.
There he goes.
He's walking. This is... There he goes. He's... He's walking very seriously. That's a clear sign that this is a big moment in American history when you get Jamie
freaking Raskin. He wasn't even wearing his durag yesterday. The durag was off,
baby, as he's very, very intense. Look at him. I can't even imagine how intimidated
Jon Thune was when Jimmy Raskin got to his office.
What a what a whack job.
Look at him. Oh, oh, I'm shuddering.
Oh, that's unbelievable.
There's there's there's Raskin yesterday.
So Raskin did some performative walking.
And then Eric Swalwell,
Fang Fang's lover, did,
well, he called for nationwide street chaos on Saturday. Take a look, here's Swalwell calling for nonsense.
Let me say, as the second most senior member
of Homeland Security,
Kristi Noem needs to come to our committee
and answer questions.
ICE needs to show their faces.
No more masks like 1800 bank robbers
or Russian KGB agents in the streets and stop terrorizing families. So what can you do at
home? It's no Kings Day this Saturday. Oh my gosh. 2000 rallies across America. Americans
need to show up because if we don't show up, democracy dies. Democracy dies.
Democracy!
So there's Eric Swalwell.
I was thinking about Eric Swalwell this morning, unfortunately.
Do you ever feel bad for Fang Fang in that saga?
Like I realize Fang Fang's a Chinese spy and I'm totally opposed to the CCP and her role
in advancing its cause.
But do you ever feel bad that she's the one
who drew Eric Swalwell out of the hat?
Like when they were picking American targets in China,
they were like, okay, who's everybody gonna go after?
Here Fang Fang, pull a name,
and she reaches into the hat and out pops Eric Swalwell.
Do you think she sighed and her head dipped into her chest
and she thought,
okay, for my country, I'll do it for my country. She heads off to the United States and she has to
sleep with Eric Swalwell. And again, she's an intelligence agent. And does Eric Swalwell have
something useful to share about the United States? Does he know anything?
Like imagine she went through the whole disgusting process of consummating that espionage, that
spying and she got nothing out of it.
I feel bad for Fang Fang. I can't help it. I'm sorry. I'm looking out for Fang Fang.
I can't help it.
I'm sorry.
I'm looking out for Fang Fang here.
I know I shouldn't be, but I just can't help it.
I feel so bad for her that she pulled the short straw.
She ended up with Eric Swalwell.
Does she really have to sleep with him?
Like don't you think she could have cut it off a little bit earlier?
You know, I mean, I kind of feel like Eric Swalwell would just bat for a couple,
fall for a couple of eyelash bats.
I don't think she has to go all the way, but she did it.
She did it for her country.
And that's commitment to sleep with Eric Swalwell.
So anyway, poor one out for Fang Fang.
She had to deal with that.
I feel bad for her.
That's rough.
Okay, so that's Swalwell.
As far as Padilla is concerned,
Padilla rushed off the MSNBC
yesterday. Alex Padilla, again, he's a United States Senator from California, for those of you
who are completely unaware of this goofball. Here he is rushing off the MSNBC saying,
yes, I am a hero. But not only am I a hero, but Trump is evil. Take a look. Question, how are you?
We all watched the video. We saw you taken to the floor by those agents. How are you doing? Trump is evil. Take a look. uh... is that outrage that whole people feel if this can happen
to the united states senator for having the audacity to ask a question
of the secretary of homeland security sent questions for a request for
information that we've had not just
the last sort of weaker so
uh... the activity in los angeles since the beginning of the administration
that's the national can happen to anybody
in the country for that matter.
Yeah, just imagine, just imagine.
I'm a powerful United States Senator.
I'm one of the most powerful people on the planet.
If it can happen to me, it can happen to anybody.
What do you mean, if it can happen to you,
it can happen to anybody?
You're sending, first of all, you got gentle treatment.
That was like concierge treatment yesterday.
That's like, if there's an equivalent,
that's like access to the elite lounge at the airport
in terms of law enforcement.
Those guys were gentle and polite with you.
They didn't give you the January 6th treatment.
There was no SWAT team showing up outside your door.
There weren't police boats showing up in the canal
behind your house like they did to Roger
Stone. They didn't throw you in leg irons like they did to Peter Navarro. They didn't send,
you know, the like fully armed kidded out agents after you like they did to, you know, Christians
who were singing church hymns outside of abortion mills. Please spare us your sob stories.
Notice all the injuries all over his face and how damaged his body was as a result
of his horrific traumatic experience.
Oh wait, he's not damaged at all.
He's glowing.
He's looking as doughy and put together as ever,
sitting on an MSNBC set, singing sob stories
about how roughly he was treated.
Please, again, a joke.
Finally, I have one more thing I want to show you
and then we're going to move on to our great interview with the ICE director. Speaker Mike
Johnson deserves credit for not falling for any of this crap yesterday. There was a moment where
I thought Republicans might fall for it, like, oh, we want to investigate how law enforcement
treated the United States Senator. We want to make sure everything was done correctly.
And instead, Speaker Johnson said, I'm not playing with any of that nonsense.
Padilla was acting like an idiot.
Take a look, cut 12.
Mr. Speaker, did federal agents go too far the way they treated Senator Padilla today?
Was that a bridge too far?
I saw the same video, a very brief video that I think many people did.
I think the senator's actions, my view is it was wildly inappropriate.
You don't charge a sitting cabinet secretary and everybody can draw their own conclusions.
You can see it's a heated debate here.
I'm not going to respond to that.
Let me just, hold on, wait just a second.
I think the American people can draw their own conclusions.
They saw a senator acting wildly inappropriate. I think the American people can draw their own conclusions. They saw a Senator acting like,
while being appropriate, I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, good for Mike Johnson.
Good for Mike Johnson for not taking the bait.
You know how often Republicans
would take the bait on that story?
Oh, well, you know, after a full investigation,
we'll get all the answers on what exactly went down.
No, we saw the video, don't be stupid.
Just answer the question, and he did.
So good for Speaker Johnson.
I love that response yesterday. Let's keep that going. All right, don't be stupid. Just answer the question and he did. So good for Speaker Johnson. I love that response yesterday.
Let's keep that going.
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and customs enforcement, Todd Lyons joins us on the show.
Sir, great to have you with us today.
Thank you for doing this.
Thanks, thanks.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, Javi.
Sorry, I wasn't here yesterday, but you kind of saw we were a little busy in LA.
I could tell.
You are very busy right now and I have a lot of appreciation for that.
So let's just dive into what is going on.
First and foremost, I've been talking a lot
about the threats to ICE officers.
And the number I keep seeing is that assaults
on ICE officers are up over 400%.
Give us some perspective on that.
What is going on with the guys
who you have out in the field right now?
Well, that's one thing, Vince,
that's really kind of troubling for us.
You know, I got asked the other day
what keeps you up at night
in the assaults on ICE officers that threw the roof.
Like you said, we're at 413% since January 20th.
Everything from officers being run over on traffic stops,
knives being pulled out, punched in the face,
go to LA now.
We've had officers and agents, one
had a rock through the windshield, broke his hand,
cut him up pretty bad. Another officer took a firework off the foot, burns his whole foot.
It's you know, they're out there every day, the men and women of ICE are out there every day. And
they're encountering such, you know, violence, rhetoric, the doxing, the threats, it's really,
really bad. And all they're doing is they're sworn law enforcement duty, right?
Like they're they're just like any other law enforcement officer out there on the street every day. Yeah, you know, they're getting punched
You know, we had a traffic stop up in Boston where it was a van full of individuals
One was an egg felon the driver got out with a box cutter started trying to slash agents, which wasn't even ICE agents.
There was a few ICE agents, but FBI, ATF, in order to let his colleagues in the van
escape.
That's what we're seeing every day.
Or they, you know, other cities, they're out there on a traffic stop and just regular civilians
come out and start interfering, you know, trying to grab people, trying to get involved
in a law enforcement operation.
It's a bad situation.
How much responsibility do Democrat officials have
for encouraging this type of violence?
And the reason I ask that is because you and I both know
we've seen a bunch of this.
Hakeem Jeffries, Dan Goldman has done this,
Michelle Wu, the mayor of Boston.
We've saw just yesterday,
Congressman Lynch from Massachusetts do this,
a lot of this.
And what they're saying, two things.
One, they're accusing ICE of doing something villainous
by the agents wearing masks as they do their jobs
to try and conceal their identities.
And two, they keep using these analogies saying
that ICE agents are like Nazis,
that they're like the Gestapo.
Congressman, or rather Governor Tim Walz said that as well. How much responsibility
do these Democrats have for, you know, creating threats for ICE agents right now?
You know, I think anybody, whether it's an elected official, one of these NGOs,
these non-governmental organizations, or even some of the, you know, some of the mainstream
media that are making these comments, I hold them solely responsible for it.
And I've said it before in a few of my interviews.
If you look at the beginning of our enforcement operations
when we ramped up,
you didn't see ICE officers in masks, right?
Now you may have saw them
during the pandemic wearing masks,
but in the beginning of this,
you did not see officers wearing masks.
When you started seeing officers wearing masks
is when you started seeing their photos
and home addresses posted on telephone poles,
like for instance in Los Angeles, right?
Or in Massachusetts, or you know,
you have officers' names, family members' names,
kids' Facebook, Instagrams being posted
saying harass them, make their life difficult.
That's the only time you saw that.
And so when elected officials call us Nazis, the Gestapo, secret police, right, that fires up that
base that turns people against us. You know, I said in the press conference in LA yesterday,
we always hear from these elected officials in these sanctuary cities, well, if ICE had a criminal
warrant or if ICE had a judicial warrant, we support you, we back you.
Well, last Friday, ICE was out serving a criminal immigration warrant in Los Angeles.
And look what happened.
Right?
Yeah.
They got surrounded.
They got attacked.
But again, so we did what you wanted, right?
Elected officials.
We're out there showing immigration is a criminal federal crime.
We have an actual sworn judge's warrant,
yet still it's just not enough of them.
So when elected officials call us the Gestapo, Nazis,
that rhetoric transforms over to the craziness.
And so far we've seen assaults,
but the thing I'm on guard for,
and I'm sure you're worried about too,
is whether or not an ICE agent gets killed.
That's what I'm worried about.
Because I think I've been saying that
this type of gross language
is gonna get an ICE officer killed.
And if that happens, it sounds like you're saying
the same thing I'm saying,
which is these Democrats will have blood on their hands.
Well, 100%, I think anyone that calls for violence
against one of the men and women that,
I have the privilege to lead is responsible for. And one of the men and women that, you know, I have the privilege to leave, lead as is responsible for India.
One thing I said before, you know, I,
the reason why I'm so adamant about the mass situation or them protecting
themselves, because under the last administration in 2022,
I had in Tifa protested show up my house and threatened my family at three
o'clock in the morning. Right.
So I know exactly what these officers and agents are going through.
Just this week, I had two credible death threats. o'clock in the morning. Right. So I know exactly what these officers and agents are going through.
Just this week, I had two credible death threats. They posted where we were at what hotel I
was with my security team in Los Angeles and kind of keep trying to keep track on that.
You saw the federal building in LA is his kill ice. You know, our investigation team
right now is so swamped with doxing and threats against agents that they're
just overwhelmed and it's because of this rhetoric right into your appointments
so they're gonna get somebody killed right it's only a matter of time
because you know even with throwing a rock or a Molotov cocktail you can still
kill somebody right and it's just this fired up rhetoric that's going viral.
And you see all these protests
that are planned for this weekend, right?
You think it was just contained in Los Angeles,
but now we're having to spend special response teams
all over the country.
You saw a big uptick in New York City.
That's just ICE agents and other federal partners
doing a law enforcement mission.
Do you have any reason to believe that this Saturday's left-wing protests amount to a
threat to ICE, a new threat to ICE officers this weekend?
I do.
I do.
And you know, you want to give, you want to give people the credit for the doubt, right?
I'm the first one to say I'm all about the first amendment.
People protest.
ICE fully supports that.
But their track record hasn't been that good, right?
And it's not necessarily the people that are against immigration.
You know, throughout the history of the immigration, you know, Nationality Act, there's always
been people for or against it.
But when you bring in these agitators, these anarchists, these
funded groups just to disrupt those protests, they use they go into the
cover of peaceful protest to initiate violence to get their point across in a
cause. And that's the biggest fear for me is that that negative energy is going to
be directed toward ICE agents. And this is the perfect catalyst to jump on that.
Now, you know, I heard your last segment when you were talking
about what happened at the press conference yesterday,
I was on stage when the Senator came, right?
I was right next to the secretary
and no one knew who he was.
So you have somebody unidentified yelling, rushing,
and you have two protectees up on the stage
and law enforcement did
what they were supposed to do.
But it's that type of grandstanding
that's gonna get somebody hurt.
Yes, so just since you mentioned it,
it looked to me like they weren't rough on them,
they handled them the way you would anybody
who was trying to push their way towards the stage
and people being protected.
Is it your view that this was handled professionally and that everything happened by the book with Senator
Padilla yesterday?
100%. I have to credit the Secret Service and the other protective detail folks because
they did exactly what they were supposed to do. That was a press conference. You saw that
the press wasn't out there screaming questions.
It was an informative press conference
giving all the agency heads and the secretary
chance to explain what ICE was actually doing out there.
And you had someone that was unknown to anyone on that stage
or any one of the security details there.
Those agents and officers acted
with the utmost professionalism.
I couldn't be more proud of them.
While they protected the secretary and mitigated the threat,
I think they did an outstanding job.
Yeah, okay.
Let me get to the big mission for ICE,
which is to take illegal aliens who are in our country
into custody and get them out.
I know the White House wants to get up to a minimum of 3,000 deportations a day.
At least that's the message we're hearing from Stephen Miller and Tom Homan.
How far along are you towards that goal?
When do you think we might be able to reach it?
You know, I think we're doing great.
Me personally, for my 18 years doing this as a career law enforcement officer
The amount of immigration enforcement we're doing right now is spectacular compared to what we've done in the past
I
Think are you've seen some of our numbers like last week a week before, you know
We were hitting around twenty four thousand a day and that's a rest, right?
So when you look at those arrests and you have- Sorry, you said 24,000?
I'm sorry, 2400.
I gave myself a pay raise on that one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, 2400.
I mean, we're doing great.
The problem is though, seems like this week, right?
Now you have what, that's gonna seriously cut back
our immigration enforcement efforts
when you have active
apps out there telling where ICE agents are, where ICE agents are doing
enforcement. How are we supposed to go ahead and meet the presidential's goal
and the secretary's vision of getting as many of the worst of the worst and these
immigration violators off the street when we're encountered at every turn
someone hampering us, right? That's huge.
That's a huge problem.
I definitely think we would see a huge spike
in our immigration enforcement,
especially when it comes to the worst of the worst,
if we actually had the cooperation
of those sanctuary jurisdictions.
That's huge.
You know, look, you can go back
to the Massachusetts operation we just did.
There was so many targets up there because while the teams were out enforcing
just regular immigration warrants, it was a constant feed of just more
criminal alien being released in real time.
Hey, there's across the United States.
There was so many immigration detainers that aren't honored in there.
It's not for just driving without a license
or open container.
These are serious, serious violent crimes
that local jurisdictions won't hold for us.
Right.
If we add that, that 3000 number wouldn't even be an issue.
Our goal would be much higher
because we would have other law enforcement agencies
that aren't hampered by political
rhetoric and political ideology that want to be focused on a law enforcement public safety mission
instead of something political. How different will the situation be if the Big Beautiful Bill
gets passed? Because the resources in the Big Beautiful bill include a massive expansion of your workforce at ICE and a lot
of resources for deportations. Is there any math there that you're aware of in terms of how many
more deportations could occur each day as a result of that package? Well, if you think about, if you
kind of think about it at this kind of level, right, on the ICE side, there are two components.
There's Homeland Security Investigations, which is a special agents do long term investigation.
And then there is enforcement removal operations that are our
fugitive operations teams, the deportation officers that that core group of individuals that do
amazing work is one of the smallest law enforcement agencies we have.
It's only about fifty five hundred people.
We're hoping to get about 10,000 more deportation officers
just for one arrest in the street.
If somebody isn't turned over to us,
it takes us six to eight officers and agents
to go out and make that one arrest.
So if you kind of do the math on that,
we just don't have enough deportation officers a day
to get out there and let alone do a thousand arrests
to 3,000.
That's why we had to take that whole government approach and bring on so many other federal
partners.
So if the if the bill does pass, that increase in manpower would be huge for us, right?
Because it also gives us the opportunity to staff those deportation flights.
It will also give us funding to add more flights to at the same time.
OK, yeah, that that would make a big difference for sure.
Beyond the criminal illegals that you're picking up,
when we say criminal illegals, of course,
I just wanna as always stipulate
that if you illegally immigrated to the United States,
you've committed a crime right away.
But when we refer to criminal illegals broadly,
that typically is people saying people have committed
more crimes even beyond their status as an illegal alien.
How much more can we expect just general deportations
to ramp up where we're taking people into custody
who are not violent criminals, they're not rapists
or murders, but they are here illegally.
Can we anticipate those types
of mass deportations increasing?
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can.
And I say this is that if you look at now that we're,
under Secretary Noem and under President Trump, right,
they've opened up the whole portfolio
of immigration enforcement.
So we aren't going to walk away from an immigration violator.
There are so many people that are here in the United States
from the last administration that have valid actual orders of deportation or removal,
meaning they've gone through the whole due process, gone through the appeal process,
and an immigration judge, a federal judge, has deemed them deportable or to be removed
from the United States.
There's over 1.5 million of those just like that.
So while they may not be hardened criminals or have no criminal history, they still violated immigration law and they have a law order to be removed. And we're going to go ahead and
affect that removal. But again, like I said about the manpower, obviously, like any organization,
business, law enforcement agency, we're going to focus our resources on what we need to those top
tier priorities of the public safety. But as we're out there encountering these individuals, we're going to take action on those.
So can we expect more work site enforcement by ice or you do a workplace and you round
up illegals and you get them out of the country?
Yeah.
And you know, I would say that you're going to see more of that, not necessarily.
Well, for the point of the illegal workers and illegal aliens, but there are so many
American companies that exploit these individuals right now take advantage of people to get that edge over a competitor
Let's say in the construction business right to to hire
People at a cheaper rate to build more houses yet. They exploit them. They're involved in human trafficking. They're involved in child labor
So while we're going after the illegal aliens
that are working, we're going after these businesses
that are causing harm to these individuals as well.
Because hiring illegals and forced labor,
human trafficking to make yourself ahead in a business,
make more profit, that's just illegal as anything else,
right?
I was gonna ask, that actually was gonna be my next question.
So when we talk about workplace enforcement,
there are employers who need to be prosecuted
for hiring illegal aliens.
Can we expect that to ramp up in any big way soon?
Yeah, 100%.
I think you're gonna see,
you saw just a large scale operation
we just had in Omaha, Nebraska.
That was a criminal warrant. I used, you know,
the criminal warrant, like I said, that we initiated in Los Angeles on Friday against two
businesses. So when we're going in there with actual criminal federal arrest warrants and search
warrants on a business, that's not only going for those workers, that's going for those business
owners, the ones that are out there trying to make a profit by exploiting individuals. And that's
what we're really focused on.
Okay, good.
I do wanna also ask you about the president's,
the president posted to Truth Social yesterday
that he said that the farm industry
as well as the hotel and leisure industry
has apparently been having some trouble
with the fact that immigration enforcement's going on,
presumably because they have so many illegal workers in those industries.
Has the president or the White House given you any guidance on how to handle farm illegals
who are working on farms or in hotels?
Is the administration backing off on enforcement on those types of illegal aliens?
No, I think what you saw from the president's post is the fact that, kind of what I said, we're prioritizing efforts in other areas. But I think really what the President administration
wants to do is get these employers to focus on the legal avenue to go ahead and, you know,
the H1B1 process where we offer the opportunities for workers to come in seasonally, that's a great
opportunity for individuals. Why? But that costs employers more.
So people know what you mean. There are legal
ways for companies to hire agricultural guest workers. So
you can come in, they can hire people and that's a legal means.
But what this kind of sounds like what the president is
indicating is that apparently those industries are full of
illegal workers as well. And that's that's a real problem.
Yeah, and I'm allowed, you know, I think the president's vision
and it is that these companies would go ahead
and get away from the human trafficking
and the exploitation of people,
do it the right way,
where businesses pay those individuals the right way,
support them in the right way,
and give those individuals a pathway
that come in here legally
to avoid what we're going through right now.
Because you have all these individuals that come in here,
and you know that while they say immigration
is a victimless crime, there's tax evasion, fraud,
there's forgery, there's identity theft.
There's so many US citizens that are affected by this,
by employers that are exploiting these individuals
just to get them paid cheaper,
while causing harm to American citizens.
Also, illegal aliens have a massive effect on the economy
in terms of the resources they draw.
One of the pieces of the why the big, beautiful bill
matters so much is that the White House has been pointing
out that illegal aliens at least have been tapping,
1.4 million of them have been tapping into Medicaid.
They're clearly, Todd Lyons,
is quite a few illegals who are drawing off of the American taxpayer by being here. There's a cost
involved. Well, it is a huge cost. And you know, we see it all across our social service network.
And that was one problem on the last administration is a lot of these blue states, a lot of these
sanctuary states,
they saw such an influx because of the benefits they gave to illegal aliens.
And that was one huge problem.
When you have such a, I, when I was the field office director in the Boston field office,
I always sounded like a Travelocity ad because I said, well, Massachusetts is the number
three destination site for all new non-citizens.
And that was because there was such a draw that they can go there, get a driver's license, no questions asked. Free housing, Medicare, Medicaid, food. So when
states have these sanctuary jurisdictions are such a draw to an illegal alien population,
that's going to take away from the medic, American citizens and the service providers that the state
should be providing to veterans, homeless Americans, right? That's huge.
Yep.
Okay, so I've heard Tom Homan,
the border guard kind of allude to this in the past,
but is it possible to hit sanctuary jurisdictions,
the leaders of those sanctuary jurisdictions with charges?
Are they operating in violation of federal law
in any capacity that we can impose consequences on them
in order to make it so that immigration enforcement's
possible again.
Yeah, you can't, I, you know, but to the point
and to what secretary's no, I'm said on many occasions,
if these elected officials, city officials,
whether it be a town mayor, Senator, whatever,
if they impede a nice operation,
they're 100% they can be held in charge.
I can't tell you without getting too deep
into a lot of the actual ongoing
Investigations that the Department of Justice has been a great partner and every day any time we have one of these impediments
I can tell you that the Department of Justice along with our Homeland Security
investigations are fully working those cases to if someone is in violation of
Any type of immigration law or impedes criminally on one of our operations
or does something to harm our agents, then the Department of Justice and the Department
of Homeland Security are going to take full measures to ensure that those people are held
accountable.
We've seen judges arrested for impeding illegal alien deportations.
We've seen the mayor of Newark arrested for trespassing at a detention facility.
We saw LaMonica McIver hit with charges for assaulting federal officers.
Clearly there are people being held accountable.
And it sounds like Todd Lyons, what you're telling me is that there are also multiple
other public officials who are being investigated for perhaps violating criminal law.
Well, yeah, Vince, I can tell you that if someone's out there and we have to look at
every single case, case by case, right? But if someone's actually out there impeding us, or actually, let's say, for instance,
like the doxing of the agents, I can tell you that every time one of our agents is doxed
or someone puts that out, puts their name photo, there's an investigation ongoing on
that.
If someone goes ahead and actively blocks or obstructs an ICE facility, there's an actual investigation on that. If someone goes ahead and actively blocks or obstructs an ICE facility, there's an actual
investigation on that. So it doesn't matter anymore if you're just some active young college
protester to someone that might be an elected official. If you commit a criminal act while
impeding ICE, you're going to be held accountable. Would that include the mayor of Nashville who
stands accused of releasing ICE officials personal information
doxing them?
Yep.
I think you know, you heard Secretary Noem and the attorney general say that anyone that
does release and put immigration agents or any federal agent, you know, we had one, a
few agents for the FBI that were helping us in California just recently got all their
personal information put out and followed home.
If anyone does that, regardless of your title or position,
you're gonna be held accountable.
Okay.
And finally, thank you for your time today.
I really appreciate this.
This is a very big deal to share all this information
with us, Acting Ice Director Todd Lyons.
Can you preview anything for us,
of any sort of big action that might be coming
in the days ahead?
I know you don't wanna jeopardize any specific operation,
but we're always kind of, we're watching really closely because you got a lot of people rooting you
on here.
Well, you know, I appreciate that. And you know, you've been a huge supporter of us.
There's been so many people, the American people that actually, actually reach out and
let us know every day that they're actually excited and happy with what we're doing. What
I'll say is we're not going to be deterred by these protests. I said it in LA from the podium,
this isn't going to stop us.
We have the full support of the president.
Secretary Noem is an outstanding leader.
She's given us everything we need
to make sure we accomplish our mission.
And you're going to see us taking out
these public safety threats.
That's what we're going to do.
The American people voted for ICE
to fulfill their law enforcement mission
and that's what we're going to do.
We're not going to be, you know,
held up by any of these protesters.
We're going to go out there day to day and do our job,
but we're also going to be safe doing about it.
And I'm going to do everything in my power to ensure that the men and women that
work for me go home every night to their family.
Cause that's the number one priority for me right now.
Okay. I love that. And I lied to you. I do have one more. I do.
You just made me think of it.
Under Joe Biden, it seemed to me that ICE officials had handcuffs on them.
And I would see statements occasionally released by ICE complaining about sanctuary jurisdictions, but they weren't really able to do anything. What is it? How, what is your perception?
How much of a cultural sea change has it been to go from the Biden administration to the Trump
administration?
It's night and day, 100% night and day.
I served as a senior field leader under the last administration and we were, we did have
handcuffs.
It's very hard to do law enforcement when you ebb and flow every four to eight years
by executive orders.
What President Trump has done is just opened up the Immigration Nationality Act and let
us enforce the law as it's written, which is amazing.
That opens up every portfolio within ICE's law enforcement mission.
And now whether it's like you said, worksite enforcement, child exploitation, illegal immigration,
human smuggling, counter proliferation, we're allowed to do it all.
So the handcuffs are off and now ICE can be
that viable law enforcement partner
to the law enforcement landscape
and really work on public safety in the United States.
Such a huge deal.
All right, you've got an important job to get back to.
So we'll let you do it.
Thank you very much, the acting ICE director, Todd Lyons.
Good to talk to you today, sir.
Thanks, Vince, appreciate it.
All right, there he is.
Thank you again to Todd Lyons.
Thank you to the chat. Everybody
all fired up on rumble.com slash events grateful to Todd Lyons here. And yeah, lots of questions
here about just ramping up deportations. I think we got some good answers there. The
value of the big beautiful bill, whether or not President Trump is actually going to go
easy on illegals working at farms. I hope not. I think if you're here illegally, you
should be deported. That's the way the rules are supposed to work. Lots of really
good stuff here. The one request I have to everybody who's listening, whether it's live
or on the podcast, please share this. That information, I think, was the single most
condensed interview with the ICE director I've seen. And it's not just because I conducted
it. Thank you, as always. Have a
wonderful, wonderful weekend. Always appreciate you joining me here on the show. I'll be doing
the big radio show live 12 to 3 each weekday. You can see that at rumble.com slash Vince or
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