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This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast.
You guys were talking about the greatest albums of all time earlier,
and it got me thinking about something that allows me to,
instead of like throwing topics of you that nobody cares about,
good.
Am I good to just be like happy about something for a second?
Is that cool?
With a time constraint, but sure.
Okay. Roy, do you have a music bed potentially for me to just feel happy?
Yeah, that's perfect.
Thank you.
This is your theme song.
Yeah, I want to feel some joy here because I experienced something this morning that is one of my favorite feelings, which is waking up and knowing that one of my favorite artists has new music out.
And knowing that I can wake up in the morning and listen to it right at the beginning of the day.
My favorite band is Bleachers, led by Jack Antonoff.
Hold on, I'm being happy.
Let me be happy.
Give me a minute.
My favorite band is Bleachers.
and they have a new album out.
I got engaged to one of their songs.
My wife and I saw them on our 10-year anniversary,
and they have a new album out today.
And so I got to wake up and experience listening to that
for the first time while I was on my bike ride this morning.
And on top of that, Olivia Rodriguez,
my favorite pop artist right now, has a new single out.
And so I got to experience both ends of that coin,
not just having the best music for my artist,
but also another artist on top of that.
It's an incredible feeling.
I love being able to savor those moments.
Guys, I think that's ultimately worth a toast.
And worth a toast is presented by Cuervo.
All right.
Keep it fun.
Keep it Cuervo.
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All right, Cuervo.
You're so lucky that was sponsored by our great partners at Cuervo.
Good job there, Quervo.
Less of a good job, Jeremy, but there's a means to an end.
All right.
So even experiencing joy, not a thing I can do.
So tonight we have the Thunder and the Spurs game three as that series shifts to San Antonio.
Before we get to that here, I do want to go back to last night's game.
Last night's game was kind of a dud in the second out.
Like the first half was fun.
It was tight.
But there was a moment where a lot of New York sphincters were very tight because all of a sudden you saw the workings.
You saw the foundation of a comeback by the calves that Mike Brown smartly called a timeout.
and basically stopped Uncle Moe.
Interesting.
Using a timeout
when it seems that one team
may have a little bit of momentum.
Exactly right.
And the game was at what, like 16 or 18 points
and all of a sudden it started getting chipped down,
chip down.
At one point it was seven.
That's what Mike Brown called the timeout and said,
hey, wait a second.
I'm learning from Kenny Atkinson
and making sure that I call a timeout
to stop whatever is going on here
and then they end up to blow a,
get a 20-point lead.
So the Knicks,
they take a 2-0 series lead last night,
but I don't know if you saw this after the game.
Josh Hart,
Josh Hart's meeting with the media.
He's there with Carl Anthony Towns.
And Josh Hart, not a big fan of analytics.
We know analytics have taken control of sports.
More information is usually a good thing.
Josh Hart, not really into it.
I'm never a huge analytics guy.
You know, at a certain point, they're a lamp post to a drunk person.
You can lean on it, but it won't get you home.
so at the same point you've got to have a good feel for the game
I'm not going to lie that was Gerald Wright his quote man so
shout out Jay Wright
wait hold up no we're not moving on
that's a great quote
oh my god
analytics drunk
lame posed to a drunk for it
it ain't gonna get your own
you can lean on it though I was with Cal so I didn't hear that
you ain't even go to college
I agree with them essentially.
You know, if we get past...
Which part? Cat didn't go to college?
Well, yeah, obviously.
But the part about it being a, you know, you can lean on it, but it's not going to get you home.
Yeah, analytics are good.
It looks are good for, you know, information tool.
But analytics can't possibly take into account everything that is going on in an individual basis.
And, yeah, in general, I agree with them.
Analytics said also leave Josh Hart open by an average of like 10 feet.
He was great last night.
And he hit five threes and was incredible.
And he started off rough.
I think he was over his first three last night.
And you could almost like you could hear the groans a little bit at the garden crowns.
Oh, you've been terrible.
You got bench game one.
You're getting open shots now.
You keep shooting.
You keep missing.
But he ended up being fantastic last night.
Yeah.
Hitting big shots, making big plays down the stretch,
getting big rebounds.
Like he did the typical Josh Hart thing that everybody loves in New York.
And a lot of the analytics were like,
Asur-Tomson, like, let's let him shoot.
Let's let him do his thing.
And they try to do the same thing.
Good job plowing through them.
Yeah.
Try to do the same thing over with Josh Harden just didn't work.
Assar.
Asur-Tormson.
Now, this is a really loose team.
Tell me a team is loose when Josh Hart brings an entire pizza.
New York pizza.
Everyone loves New York pizza.
When Josh Hart brings an entire pizza into the post-game availability there with
Carl Anthony Towns.
He had a very important question.
As Tony Simmers on the pronunciation of Pistons Forward to Sarr Thompson, all right, you sit on that, Jeremy.
Wow, what kind of face are you making?
What is that?
Seathing face.
Jeremy's not going to sit on anything, buddy.
You're right.
His bike, listening to Olivia Rodrigo.
Yeah.
Love a good bike ride in the morning.
How about Josh Hart, though, here?
Very important question.
Great song, by the way.
Let me just interrupt you real quick.
Really good single.
You had your time.
Dave, go ahead.
I'm curious. I mean, the analytics thing.
Of course, they're valid, but also they take away from future visceral joy of big-time moments, big-time playoff games, coming through in pressure or failing in pressure.
That's what analytics failed to really capture.
Either way, the discussion that I think people are trying to talk into reality is that the Knickerbockers might win the title.
Do you buy that?
I do buy that.
I mentioned this yesterday where I thought game two, all the injuries that are starting to take place between the Spurs and Thunder, I think is a pretty significant thing for New York.
How could it not be?
If these two teams are going to play a seven game series, which they might.
And look, we'll learn tomorrow if the Eastern Conference is going to be a long series or not.
But what if the Eastern Conference is a short series and the Western Conference is a long series?
And, you know, players continue to drop like flies out there.
already Dylan Harper, DeAren Fox is hurt.
What if players continue
Jalen Williams? And then you have a healthy
Knicks team that is there waiting
for whichever team is left standing out west.
Yeah, Dave, like I think the next come in the championship.
Touchees as,
touche. Tashay.
So Josh Hart, straight up eating pizza
during the post-game press conference.
Very important question for Call Anthony Towns.
Are you a crust guy?
is garlic crust.
Okay.
Are you a crust guy?
Is what Josh Hart asks Carl Anthony Towns.
And Towns responds with,
it depends if it's garlic crust.
Now, my first question there is,
do you think Carl Anthony Towns is saying it depends
if it's garlic crust?
Because if it is garlic crust,
he then is a crust guy,
or does that make him not a crust guy?
Because my initial thought there is that he's not a crust guy
if it's garlic because garlic gives you the breath
and he may be self-conscious of that
because he would have garlic on his breath.
I feel it the other way.
I think he's saying like,
depends if it's garlic because if not that that's trash.
So you're saying it depends if it's garlic
because garlic is great
and then it's worth the extra carbs
because I love garlic crust.
Interesting.
I don't know if he's concerned.
Sorry, Dave, let me interrupt you.
I don't know if it's worth being worried about the carbs if you're Carl Anthony Towns.
I think this is more a flavor palette type of thing.
Some people just don't like eating the crust.
Jeremy, excuse me, Tony, how you doing over there, you all right?
Still not happy about the whole situation.
Mike's writing it down.
He's going to give me a note at the end of the end of the show.
He's going to say, Tony can't speak, which is true.
Yeah, that was, you heard us there.
It was a great point.
Poorly delivered.
No one's going to remember the point.
I don't.
That's the issue.
pronunciation. I never understand, Dave. I never understand when you're eating a pizza and you got
Homeboy who just, he leaves the crusts on the plate. What the hell are you doing? I'll never
understand that. I've never done it in my life. Wow. That's people, that's people who choose to
just survive instead of truly live like you and me do that. That's why, that's why we get along. But what is,
go back for me, I'm aware of one, you know, mid-pisa maker that does garlic crust, but is that a
that is become universal
and I'm not aware of it?
I don't...
A lot of places offer garlic crust.
Yeah, I think most places offer,
especially the chains.
They offer it.
Yeah.
See, this is why you need the sauce,
the dip in it.
The garlic sauce in this situation
that you can dip maybe a bear crust into it.
How do we feel about stuffed crust?
The crust that has the melted cheese in it.
Love stuffed crust.
Really?
Love stuffed crust.
Because for me, I don't do stuff crust.
It doesn't wind up tasting like crust.
It's too soft and doughy.
And no, no, no, I think you're on your own on this one.
I'm not going to overreact to the really nasty thing you just said
because you're having a hard enough day with your pronunciation from a store Thompson.
But stuffed crust, that's the kind of pizza that I would leave the crust out.
I would not eat that.
That's not for me.
Dave, how's so you?
Well, listen, I think you touch on an interesting subject here.
Something sound better than they actually are.
The sum does not equal the parts.
Samoa cookies, obviously Girl Scout people know that one.
The Samoa sounds good because it has everything in it, but when you bite it, it's mid.
I've had a similar experience or had a realization recently.
Fahitas sound great, and I can get duped into them once every half decade or so on the menu.
you, I'll look at it. That sounds good. All the stuff. Oh, they're sizzling. Oh, I'm the bell of the
ball. Look at that. Everybody, all eyes in the restaurant are on me as I get delivered. My plate with
the smoke coming off of it and it smells so delicious as it passes by every table. And how will I,
as I put my princely meal together, this, maybe this one is going to have some green pepper in it.
No, maybe some onion. You know what? Maybe both. But then you take a bite of it and you're like,
Yeah, it's all right.
It's not that good.
I should have just gotten a burrito.
Fihitas are top of the heap when you're at a restaurant and someone else orders a fajitas.
And you're like, damn, I should have gotten fajitas.
Second place, and I haven't been to Burger King in a while.
But when you order the fries, and I think they do this on purpose, they put the one onion ring in there.
There's always one.
They want to let you know what you're missing.
I guarantee you they do this on purpose because you're like, damn, I should have gotten some onion rings too.
The onion rings at Burger King.
King are so good.
And it's like they're telling you, you're missing out on this shit.
What you're doing?
They don't lead with them enough.
They should.
It is the distinguishing feature from their arch rivals.
Arch, get it.
They should be celebrated.
We have onion rings.
They don't.
What are you even doing here, right?
You should be able to order fries with the one onion ring,
and the order should be called the oneion ring.
Oh, wow.
Now that's worth a toast.
That's a great idea.
Give them a liner again?
Can we read the liner again?
Read that line.
All right.
All right.
All right.
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I've never stepped foot on that campus.
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Stugats. I would die. I don't know
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show with the Stugats.
So,
tonight, Thunder and Spurs game three,
series moves to San Antonio.
Tiramisu is also overrated.
Right.
Absolutely right.
You're correct.
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Thank you.
By the way, there are seven dozen versions of Tiramisu.
Sometimes it can be like in a pudding.
Sometimes it's a cookie.
Sometimes it's like a slice of cake.
All suck.
What about what it's mean?
They don't suck.
They're all, they're all C.
They're all about like a C plus.
It's that powder.
It's the cocoa powder.
It makes you cough a little bit.
What do I want that?
He's right on that.
He is right.
It's about like having a beignet.
Yeah.
You're always going to have a little cough before.
You don't like lady fingers?
No.
Listen, I like good dessert.
I like a flowerless chocolate cake, if you please.
Ew.
What are you?
A thousand years old?
What are you, old man?
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There is not, I'm top 10 remote control handler.
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I'm a great connect four player, so on and so forth.
You lost in front of everybody.
What's that?
You lost Connect 4 in front of everybody.
No, I didn't.
What are you talking about?
Mike beat you.
Oh, I lost.
Oh.
That's a fine.
I devastated.
Wow.
Bad day for you, Zez.
Come on boss.
Your punishment, eating Tierra Missou and fajita.
So if I would ask you, do you think that the Oklahoma City Thunder in game two were physical with Victor Wembanyama?
Like what would your initial answer to that be?
Do you think?
And Tony, you're allowed to talk again, even though you mispronounced the sore Thompson very badly.
All right.
You'll be okay.
You'll get over it.
Would you say that they were physical with Wembenyama in game two?
I mean, because Hartnstein didn't play very much in game one.
He played a lot in game two, and he was very dirty.
Would you say that they were physical with him?
I don't think he was dirty.
I think he was physical, and that's what they needed for me.
Well, he was dirty.
I think he was physical.
Hardinstein wasn't necessarily dirty with Wembenyama.
but when he's pulling the hair of Stefan Castle,
even if he didn't try to pull his hair,
what are you trying to grab?
Like, what are you pulling?
That's not defense, grabbing.
You know, so it was weird.
Agreed, but there was a lot of elbows being thrown,
a lot of arm play, a lot of, like, grabbing the arm and not letting him go.
You know about that arm play, Dave?
I do think that going back to Ricky Williams,
if you have long hair like that and you're out there in a contact.
But you're allowed to do that in football.
I get it, but you cannot really.
charge somebody if your hand gets tangled up in your wildly long hair, you can't then cry foul
because somebody got tangled up in your web.
But you know you're allowed to tackle in football and not basketball, right?
I get it.
I'm just making, I'm with you that they were very, I think what you're getting at is that they
were physical with him, right?
I think so.
So here's Charles Barkley.
He was Charles Barkley last night inside the NBA on ESPN.
And I heard, I hadn't heard anyone say or, or.
forgive the opinion that Barkley had here on the way they defended Wimbunyama.
I watched the whole game.
Hey, nice flex.
Well, I was going back and forth between that and the hockey game.
I'm not going to lie.
You people at home and on TV talking about they were physical with Wembe.
Man, y'all need to stop it.
I've been kissed harder.
Hardinstein.
I love Hardinstein.
But he just put a body on Wembe.
It wasn't overly aggressive.
He just, he didn't hit.
There was no excessive files.
But for you people thinking that's physicality, y'all need to shut the hell up.
I mean, the hockey has been really good, Dave.
Like, you could understand him flipping back and forth between the hockey and the basketball, right?
I mean, listen, I don't want to get up on Mount Pius, but I'm with Nick Wright on this.
I do not get these guys.
I love Chas Barkley, obviously, but I do not get these guys celebrating the fact that they don't love watching basketball.
It's just bizarre to me that they consider themselves so untouchable.
that this is the declaration they can make.
And like, so what, what are you going to do about it?
Like, I don't know.
I would love for you to be consuming the subject matter that we're all indulging right now.
How about that?
I don't care that the series shifts to San Antonio tonight.
I feel like I don't have a pulse whatsoever.
What's going to happen in this game tonight?
Like, this is the kind of series to me.
It does not matter if they're playing in San Antonio.
It doesn't matter if they're playing in Oklahoma City.
I think both these teams are going to be great.
I think it's going to be a war of the whole game.
The question is, is there going to be a guard that's going to be healthy
and bring him the ball for San Antonio?
Deerrin Fox out talking about a high ankle spring
where it's going to be hard for him to cut laterally.
You got Dylan Harper, who's out with now an abductor issue.
We don't really know what it is.
It's not a strain.
It's not a spring.
We don't know.
And Stefan Castle's had 20 turnovers in two games.
Wembe is going to need some legitimately legendary performances
if they're going to pull off the series.
Well, you know, so someone asked me yesterday, right,
if does Wembenyama need to be,
does Wembenyama have to have MVP performances
in order for the Spurs to win this series?
And I'm like, yeah.
I mean, they're going against the defending champs
who have the back-to-back league MVP.
They need Wembe Gama to be the best player on the floor
at least four times.
It's been the whole thing all season, right?
That's been the storyline headed into this series
is can Wembe summon
the MVP effort, game in and game out, to overcome what seems to be like the most overwhelming
team in the NBA by a decent margin.
And the thing was that the Spurs supporting cast has been really good all season.
And so there was an elevation from Wembe, and you were looking at it as like, okay,
maybe this is a relatively even matchup, look at the way that they played.
But now with the injuries they've faced with the turnover issues that they have,
because they're playing against the defending champs, a team built to last, like you're going.
going to need not just MVP performances, you're going to need some of the best individual
playoff performances we have seen in a conference finals for them to be able to win this series.
And he did that in game one and took him two overtimes to do it and a legendary performance
with three guys have done it.
But they led most of the game.
You know, it's not like they came from behind and they won.
Like, they earned that game.
Still, but so it took a monumentous effort from Wembe to even get that in double overtime.
And like, there has to be, there has to be.
Slow down.
Slow down.
I can't slow down any.
Monumentous?
It took a monumentous performance?
Yeah, let's look that up, see if that's right.
Because there's words I have to look it up.
There's words I remix.
I'm saying there's words I remix sometimes, and it works.
Wictionary.
Thank you, Roy.
Hold on.
It doesn't seem like Wixionary believes it's a real word.
Let's see.
Quora, that doesn't help.
Miriam Webster.
Okay, hold on.
What does she say?
No, that's momentous.
Momentous.
Yeah, AI is doing like a non-standard hybrid word combining monumental and momentous.
But it's not generally recognized in standard dictionaries.
That can't be true.
Keep looking.
Dave?
Pat Riley doesn't care that much.
That's the good news.
Charlemagne the God on Facebook says monumentous is not a real word.
What do you know?
There you go.
Yeah. I'm sorry, buddy.
Wow, you turned your mic off. All right.
Just talk his mic from him.
Just focus on regrouping for the next few minutes.
Amasculated.
Yeah. You'll be okay.
Monumentous move there by Mike Ryan.
Sorry, sometimes he got to take the ball away from the starter.
He didn't want to come out of the game. That's all right. I call the shots.
You took both his balls.
Dave, you were.
fired up earlier this morning.
So I saw yesterday on Twitter how,
the reason I was tipped off is because I didn't see it on television
where the guys on ESPN were talking about Aaron Rogers.
All right.
And, you know, Rogers, he claims it.
It is his final year?
He's back.
He's going to play for the Steelers again this year.
That's right.
He's back, everybody.
That's right.
And he has said it is his final year.
And I saw the guys on ESPN were talking,
I guess they were, maybe Michael Wilbon was,
was not speaking as highly about Aaron Rogers as
WW Hall of Famer Rick Flair would expect Aaron Rogers to be spoken of.
So Rick Flair got very, very upset.
And apparently though, you, Dave Damashek,
you are a little bit upset as well.
Well, I'm not upset.
I do point out all the time because we're caught in a weird place
where the youngs like Tony,
they tend to, you know, be prisoners of the moment on occasion.
But the olds lionized the past to an irrational degree.
And now John Elway, I guess, counts.
It's surprising to me that he's not an old time.
I guess he now, because I'm an old man, he's now in the distant past too.
But Michael Wilbon asserted that John Elway is obviously a far better athlete than Aaron Rogers is.
And my reaction is, what the hell are you talking about, old man?
They're both high-end athletes.
John Elway was a supreme one, obviously.
He almost played for the Yankees.
But Aaron Rogers ain't no slouch.
Who are you confusing Aaron Rogers with?
Peyton Manning or Tom Brady?
Because those guys are tall drinks of water who could throw the ball,
but they were not supreme athletes.
Aaron Rogers is quick twitch as much an athlete as we've ever seen at that position
alongside John Elway, right?
I got to tell you.
I don't agree.
Why?
What does he lack other than height compared to John Elway, Aaron Rogers?
I mean, that's part of it because the size and power of John Elway when he would scramble.
Now, Aaron Rogers, I agree, especially when it comes to scrambling, evading pressure, throwing on the run.
Every bit the athlete that John Elway was when he's behind the line of scrimmage.
But John had so many iconic moments and Aaron wouldn't really sacrifice his body because he didn't have the frame that John Elway had and he played a different type of game.
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Wasn't he drafted by the Yankees?
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don lebatard
witty we have a photo right here if you can see in this photo
with my daughter there i'm pointing
exactly to the point on the stanley cup where it says
you suck ass stugats
right there
they're engraved really they got that engraved
yeah they got an engraved right there it says Chris whittingham sucks ass
this is the don lebatar show with the stugats
i think mohomes can probably take that mantle from him
uh i don't look when he was at the peak of his powers
Aaron Rogers was my favorite player ever.
And I would always say that...
Ever?
I love them too.
The very peak of Aaron Rogers
was prior to Patrick Mahomes,
the most outstanding talent
I had seen at the position.
Not the best quarterback because it's easily Tom Brady.
He put that away.
But he was often undone by bad coach
and he always was surrounded by mediocre coaches.
But he decided to return to that coach for one final season.
Not just the headman too.
Think of all the lousy,
offensive coordinators that went on to be head coaches elsewhere that were absolute jokes that
Aaron Rogers kept employed by being so spectacular. I think his excellence kind of got in his own
way because, and also the Packers not having this like cult of personality type owner that would
say, what is this? What are we doing with Mike McCarthy? After that NFC championship against Seattle,
which is one of the more fireable offenses I've ever seen at that level, he gets to keep his job.
Dave, what say you?
Well, I think Aaron Rogers, if you're trying to evaluate the quality of the on-field stuff,
he has two of, I'm subjective as it is, he has two of the five greatest single seasons that a quarterback's ever had.
And, yeah, I mean, what it comes down to is this is what you're getting at ultimately,
we're talking all around it is it's the ring count.
I know people don't want to apply the ring count here.
If he had one or let's say two more, I think we would be talking about Aaron Rogers as the
greatest of all time. No matter how many Tom Brady did win, the difference is the funny paradox of
of Aaron Rogers at 43 is he is still the name brand. He is still a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's still in the conversation at least to be one of the five best quarterbacks of the Super Bowl
era. What he suffers from, though, is high-end athleticism and the fact that it is now gone.
Well, Tom Brady did it. He won the Super Bowl of 45. Yeah, he never depended on high-end athleticism.
Aaron Rogers did in his prime.
Now that that's gone, it's almost like a prize fighter who doesn't fully grasp that he can't get to the edge like he used to or rather even worse.
He does know he can't.
And so he is making decisions based on that.
He's about to take a smack.
So instead he gets rid of the ball more quickly than otherwise might.
Yes, absolutely.
Last year was painful to watch at times.
He was wincing like Blaine Gabbard in the pocket because he knows he doesn't have it anymore.
and so he gets rid of the ball super early and he avoids contact altogether.
Not to hang in the pocket and get rid of it maybe a little too early in an inaccurate pass.
He just bails on plays and it kind of jumps off the screen a little bit that makes you,
this is a little sad.
But now that he is announced officially that this is his final season, I'm off that.
I'm off all the stuff that all the baggage that comes with Aaron Rogers.
Now this season for me, I'm not a Sealer fan like you.
In fact, I'm far from it.
but I'm an Aaron Rogers fan.
And for me, this season is all about how many moments can you give me?
How many times can you show that you got a dynamite throw in you in a big time moment?
And I'm in on that.
I like that as a storyline entering the NFL season.
I think you're right.
Put it on the poll, please.
Was Aaron Rogers wincing like Blaine Gabbardt?
Tony, are you prepared to contribute positively to the English language?
I am.
American Heritage Dictionary includes Monumentous.
It appears in both older and modern text.
but at a lower frequency and sometimes
with a slightly more literal or formal tone.
So there is a precedent for monumentous.
Ooh, when he used precedent right, I'll give it to him.
All right.
Dave, what's at you?
I'm down for whatever you got to say there, 10-day Tony.
What a monumental day for the show.
Again, I bring words into the lexicon that maybe don't exist.
Ooh, lexicon too.
You know, flexing.
Maybe I remix them a little bit.
Well, flexicon.
But there's usually like a bit of a bit of a soul.
Thank you, Dave.
Thank you so much.
Dave.
Did you guys see, you know who Nolan Smith Jr. is?
Boy, do we?
Linebacker for the Eagles.
Now this isn't something's terribly uncommon with athletes who have very fancy and fast cars.
Or George Or Lums.
He was cited for driving 135 miles per hour.
We powered through that thing in our throat.
I didn't think anyone noticed.
Oh, they noticed.
And it had me thinking.
how fast are you going on the highway
where you then check the speedometer?
Like we've all been through this before, right?
Where you're in the express lane
and you're on the highway
and you hadn't looked at your speedometer at a while
and then you look like, oh, I'm not talking about
you might get a ticket of a police officer sees you.
I'm just like, oh, we got to take our foot off the gas
a little bit right now.
This is a little bit too fast.
like Dave what I'm talking about you know what I'm saying
I do know what you're talking about yeah I think it's a product of how good your car is
I think that's where it starts if you have a really fancy car you can hit a hundred
without realizing you're doing it right well so is is that what it is for you get if you
get to a hundred when you're chasing I'm not a car guy when you're chasing
would be fake federal agents because every now and then I'm
I'll get over 90, all right?
You boys got a need for speed.
With flip-flops on, crazy.
And if I get to like...
Hey, ma-ma, him on, now.
He's wheeling down to Dave Matthews.
If I get to like 93, I start to like,
it's a little bit faster my liking.
Let's slow things down a little bit here.
135?
I don't even understand how fast that could possibly be.
It's fast.
It's really fast.
Like, I don't even know what that would look like if that went by me on the highway.
Like sometimes Carl will go buy me.
I'm like, wow, that car must be going over 100.
A hundred is not even close to 135.
135 is so much faster than 100 miles per hour.
35, exactly.
Yeah, no, yeah, thanks, Tony.
Like, you're all, you got this type of confidence now just because you found one dictionary that has the word that you...
The American Heritage, yes.
I mean, let's take it easy.
he?
135 miles an hour is so fast that you wouldn't, if you're going 70, it's almost double your
speed.
So like, that's where he was.
He was in a 70 mile an hour zone and he's doing 135 miles an hour.
Like, he is, and the question is when you look at it.
Thank you.
It's almost double.
A little less.
Was he just going 135 miles an hour the entire time?
Or did he kick it and then all of a sudden a cop caught him when he was at his peak of how fast he
was going?
Like, where is he in Georgia that he's flying 100,000?
35 miles an hour with no cars with nothing.
What's going on there?
That's a good question.
What is happening in a half?
They have an auto bottle we don't know about?
He was on campus when he was cited.
But what the hell is going on there?
This has been going on for at least five years now.
How many Georgia football players have been arrested for speeding, you know, doing triple digits in the car?
I mean, it's really sort of, you know, hey, Miami produces quarterbacks and Georgia
produces guys who get arrested for speeding.
It's really weird.
Do you think when the police officer pulls him over, he pulls up to the window, rolls down the window, like, does the police officer even say, do you know why I pulled you over?
Right?
Like, that's always what they say.
Like, I was pulled over a few weeks ago.
Oh, fight through.
It choked up.
I get it.
It's emotional.
No, take your time.
Yeah.
It was scary.
It bummed you out.
I'm not surprised that you're caught up in a motion here.
I get choked up sometimes when I talk about, you know, getting pulled over by the police.
I got pulled over like a month ago.
I had no idea why he pulled me over.
I was being honest.
For the visual audience, the highlights are great.
The highlights are great they show me during my inner monologue.
I mean, come on.
I was born to wrestle.
Anyway, 135 feels fast.
So speaking of course.
Do you think when the cop pulls you over, this is the thing that happened?
Remember when Cincinnati, when the Bengals,
just kept getting pinched over and over again.
And they used to always say,
they would say, like, well, the cops are looking to make a name for themselves.
I think, in fact, the exact opposite is true.
If you're in Athens copper and you pull a guy over and you're like,
oh, my God, it's one of the bulldogs.
I love watching you on Saturdays.
They're not looking to make a name for themselves by arresting you.
It's the exact opposite.
So you really got to be doing something bad to get taken down to the pokey, right?
Right.
The football team, the Georgia football team,
the Georgia football team probably gives most of these guys among the most joy they have in their lives.
Yeah, you got to assume a lot of people.
You're not looking.
How you feel about that, Mike?
Well, I'm sorry, I was looking at a set.
I mean, I know I was echoing his point.
Dave?
But there have been over 20 arrests since 2023.
What?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
20 people associated with the Georgia's football program have been arrested for driving related offenses.
Isn't this the sort of thing that NCAA used to step in on that when there was a pattern of bad behavior that the overlords would threaten some sort of penalty against the school for this?
No, that's only Miami.
I'll take the fine.
So we're all over.
We love any stories that involve Waymo, right?
We're all over these Waymos.
That's the driverless car.
I saw one yesterday.
And whenever I see them, I can't help.
But I always, I have to peek in the driver's seat because not all of them are driverless.
Like most of them are, but in some places there is a driver.
And I saw one of the ghost drivers yesterday.
I saw a driverless one yesterday.
And how about for a visual audience, how about this photo here of there's flooding in this city?
I don't think it's in New York City.
I know New York City's been dealing with some very, very serious flooding lately.
But there is flooding in this city here.
And the Waymo, look at this.
drives
Dave, you see this,
drives straight,
headfirst.
Nolan Smith.
The Waymo drives
straight into
what looks like a pond,
all right?
Like it's total
flooding on this street.
If you're a passenger,
like,
you got to be so nervous
you're this passenger in there.
You know you're going head first.
You're going right into
this massive flood.
Dave?
I don't know if you've ever been
in the Waymo,
but Mike,
I don't know,
man.
It scares me.
I've been in one before.
No, I, you know, never say never. I would not, I'm not going to declare you'll never see me get into a Waymo, but it's sort of like a porta potty, you know, the, I would never, you know, sit down, you know, never number two in a porta potty and you think who would ever do that, somebody in an emergent situation? If I absolutely, if I was in the middle of nowhere and the only option I had was a Waymo. Outside of that, though, there's no chance. What kind of daredevil in the year of the Lord 2020.
given the evidence we have is jumping into one of those things.
Give me five years, maybe 10 years, and then I'll consider it when I see thousands,
hundreds of thousands, and millions of people survive their ride in the way.
When the governor won't let you drive your car, you'll do exactly that.
That's right.
Tony believes in five years from now that we're all going to be.
That was the big thing I missed last week where I just simply sat in awe listening to this show.
It was monumental.
Going for two when you're up by five.
switching the zone when man isn't working.
Oh, and building your new stadium in the state your team actually plays in.
In sports, some things just make sense.
You know what else makes sense?
Drinking Yeagermeister shots, ice cold.
Drinking it any other way would be like punting on first down
or letting your worst hitter bat first or like going for two
when you're down three with a second to go.
It wouldn't make any sense.
So don't let the team down when it comes to Yeagermeister.
Drink it cold?
I don't drink it at all!
Yeagermeister, damn that's cold.
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