The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - #BecauseMiami: A New Sheriff in the County

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Jessica Norton was an employee at Monarch High School in Broward County, FL. Her transgender daughter attended the school and was on the volleyball team. The Broward County school board suspended Jess...ica saying that she violated state law allowing her daughter to play on the team. She and her lawyer Jason Starr joins Billy Corben to talk about it. Also, for the first time in decades, Miami Dade County is holding an election for county sheriff. John Barrow and Ricky Mitchell are a couple of the candidates and they come on to tell us why they're best for the position...and why they feel that they aren't getting a fair shake. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Trademarks owned by Becle. SAB, the CV. Copyright 2024. Proximo. Jersey City, New Jersey. Please drink responsibly. I had to sit through an interview where SIU detectives insisted on referring to my daughter as my son. With her husband at her side, Jessica Norton held nothing back, telling the school board, she wasn't there to beg for her job. She was there on behalf of her daughter. District leadership tried to ruin my life, but instead destroyed the life of an innocent 16-year-old girl. They destroyed her high school career and her lifelong memories and experiences. My daughter was flourishing at Monarch. Her daughter's peers at Monarch High School walked
Starting point is 00:01:54 out of class last November in support of their classmate and to protest the suspension of Principal James Cecil. Under a Florida law passed in 2021, trans girls cannot play girls sports. Norton's daughter was on the girls volleyball team, mostly a bench warmer, she said, but when someone outside the team outed her, the district suspended the principal, the athletic director, and also Jessica Norton, who is a school employee for violating the law. Her daughter enrolled in virtual school for her own safety. Here in the Free State of Florida, aka DeSantistan, these small government,
Starting point is 00:02:46 individual local rights conservative Republicans in our legislature in the governor's mansion. Yes, they have school gender police that come and interrogate parents and teachers and principals and school employees and this is a thing that we do here in the free state of Florida. It's just wild to me that, and this is something that the right is so good at, at just like, you remember when they were worried, Roy, about an Obamacare, there was gonna be death panels, right?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, completely made it up, yeah. Completely made it up, bullshit never happened. Now we have women in Florida, pregnant women, bleeding to death in emergency rooms. Those are panels, yeah. Because of individual rights, because of freedom, because America, I'm not really sure. But like, now we have the death panels.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We now have a bunch of old rich white men deciding about healthcare for individual women based on nothing to do with their own bodies and their own, their clergy and their families and their doctors, it's crazy. And now we have gender police. We have people who wanna track periods. We have people who want to track periods. We have people of young girls.
Starting point is 00:03:48 We have people who want to check in your pants to make sure you can use the restroom that they decide you can use. And we are ruining the government. The small government conservatives are using big government as a weapon to clobber, clobber and beat up and punch down on, what is it, transgender teens have just had it too good for too long in this country, right Roy? I mean it's just about time, you know, us white men take some power back, right?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah, it's spoiled! I mean, yeah, seriously, like, I mean, the more rights they have, the fewer rights I have, right? Yeah! The more rights they have, the fewer rights I have, right? Yeah. Understand this. You believe in conservatism and small government. The more Americans that have more rights, the smaller government is, because the less powerful and intrusive government can become, because more Americans have more rights. And if you let more people, I don't know, say for example,
Starting point is 00:04:42 engage in the contractual institution of marriage, that's all it is. Government accepting marriage is just saying like, okay, this contract between two consenting adults we acknowledge is legally legitimate and you get whatever benefits you get from being legally identified or accepted as married by the state, by the feds, whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Who cares? Like, who cares? Let people live their life. Don't tread on me. How about that? Those damn license plates. Don't tread on Jessica Norton and don't tread on her lawyer, Jason Starr, and don't tread on Jessica Norton's daughter. And let's start there. Jessica and Jason are joining us now. Jessica, first and foremost, there is breaking
Starting point is 00:05:23 news this week. The school board voted you were in jeopardy of your risk of losing your job. Instead, on a five to four vote, they suspended you for 10 days. I say congratulations on that because that's as close to a victory as I suppose you could get here. But more importantly, I guess it's a pure victory because how is your daughter doing? You said there in your comments to the board last month that this ruined her life. So how is your daughter doing? You said there in your comments to the board last month that this ruined her life. So how is she? So she's returning back to normal as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So let me explain that I did get a 10 day suspension with the stipulation that I cannot return to my job as an IMS. So is that a victory? Because I'm not getting my job back. I'm getting a job, but not the job that I was taken out of. So that is the whole story. Up until that decision, there was a small chance that she would be returning to school with me. Maybe not at the beginning, but eventually she
Starting point is 00:06:20 might have come back with me and enjoyed the rest of her high school career. Now that they have made the decision to take me out of my position and essentially could possibly take me out of the school and put me somewhere else, the chances of her going back are slim to none. It's tough. She was very involved in school. She was a very involved teenager,
Starting point is 00:06:42 and now she doesn't have that because they took her safety away. I guess it was indeed a Pyrrhic victory, if a victory at all. I'm sorry to hear that. I imagine that life with a child who is struggling and transitioning and discovering that she, you know, feels the way she feels and is not in the right body. I can imagine what a struggle that was for your family, but now that private struggle was outed and blown up into an international incident here.
Starting point is 00:07:18 What has that been like for, I mean, first navigating the waters you were navigating, we'll call it pre-scandal, but then now your business is out there on the streets. Like what has that been like for your family to kind of try to survive your private struggles, but now survive a scandal? At the beginning, it was very tough.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I didn't leave my house for almost four weeks. I was afraid to go out in public. I wasn't sure how I was gonna be received if somebody ran into me at Publix or if somebody saw me on the streets. So it was really tough. It was very scary. The world is a crazy place and people are insane.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So we did receive phone calls and letters to the house. I had to have a police car in front of my house for four weeks because of the uncertainty if somebody was gonna come to the house. I had to have a police car in front of my house for four weeks because of the uncertainty if somebody was gonna come to my house. You know, it's been very scary, to say the least. The way the school board handled this was completely inappropriate. You know, this could have been handled
Starting point is 00:08:18 in a much quieter way. It could have been handled much quicker, but it wasn't. So it's been scary to say, I mean, that's the only word that I can use. It's been scary after eight months. We've come to the conclusion that this is now our lives. We're going to be in the public eye now and we have to deal with it the way our family has learned to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So because of this, for the rest of her academic career, is she gonna have to be homeschooled? It looks that way. It appears that that's the route we're gonna have to take. Justice in the free state of Florida, Roy. That's how this works. Jason Starr, you are quite literally standing beside Jessica here in this struggle.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And for those of you listening, they're sitting shoulder to shoulder here on video. What is the start of this? Are these complaints coming from other volleyball players who are upset that a trans girl is competing? Is this an issue at the administration of the school? Where does all of this start? Like, are students angry or teachers angry?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Like, or is this a top down, if you will, kind of an issue? Well, I'll start by saying, you know, we often look at these kinds of laws and characterize them as solutions in search of a problem that create problems. And I think this is a textbook example of what happens. When the legislature passed this law and the governor signed it back in 2021,
Starting point is 00:09:52 there was no groundswell of issues being raised by parents or student athletes or really anyone, because frankly, sitting at one to 2% of the population, there's just not a crush of transgender students playing sports in the first instance. And so in Jessica's case, you know, of course, we, on behalf of Jessica and the family, filed a lawsuit against the law to really vindicate her
Starting point is 00:10:22 and her daughter's rights around being able to continue to play girls team sports that she's done since she's been very little, starting with basketball and soccer and volleyball, really as a way to create community and build social bonds to learn the value of hard work and ethics and the value of winning and the value of losing, you know, all of the things that we encourage kids to engage in in sport.
Starting point is 00:10:50 That lawsuit proceeded as it should, right? Ms. Norton is the parent. She has core, you know, First Amendment right to petition the government for redress, if you will. And that was what happened two and a half years into the process, shortly after the volleyball season last year, but maybe more notably after at least the first iteration of our case was dismissed, a so-called anonymous tip was called into, actually a board member.
Starting point is 00:11:18 A board member who, as you say, in the free state of Florida, was actually appointed by Governor DeSantis and not elected by the people of Broward County, and thus initiated this 248-day nightmare where Ms. Norton's daughter was outed because of the reckless way the investigation was announced. She walked out of the front door of the school building
Starting point is 00:11:43 on November 26 of last year, never to be heard from again. And what has been clear throughout the course of this investigation is that the outcome was predetermined before the investigation ever began. You take that and you look at the incredible amount of transphobia that's evident in the record of the investigation from one of the detectives calling her daughter it to yesterday a board member openly publicly misgendering her to
Starting point is 00:12:12 the point that the Norton family had to leave the room because of the violent harassment. This board member was so drunk on her own transphobia that she started engaging, you know, with members of the public directly. So yeah, we firmly believe that this is a textbook case of retaliation for someone daring to stand up and say, I don't think this is right. And I'm going to do something about it. Let me at this rate, the Broward County Public School Board is a nine member panel who oversees over 330 schools with about 260,000 students. And one of these members takes it upon themselves to target and bully one girl at one school in this district.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I mean, talk- And by the way, a couple of those spots in the school board is up for grabs August 20th, so go on and vote. You're a Broward County resident, Roy. I am. Broward, there you go. I'm so uninvolved politically in Broward
Starting point is 00:13:12 that I didn't realize that. We should get your picks, get your picks, Roy. Well, it's in the mail in ballot right now, so I don't remember. But it's definitely nobody that was appointed by Ron DeSantis, I can tell you that right now. I feel like that's a good start. Good start, safe bet if you want a free state of Florida.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Jessica Norton, last question before we go. Play devil's advocate for a moment. I understand when you are a public school system of this size that I just described. You have many masters, you have many customers, many parents, many students to serve. And it can be difficult to sometimes cater to all of the individual needs of all of those students and parents. There is obviously a lot of national controversy, international controversy about transgender athletes in this country.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But let's take this specific example here of your daughter. Was your daughter posing some kind of competitive threat as she played high school volleyball in Broward County? Were there some other students, whether in her school or elsewhere, that were being disenfranchised or losing some competitive edge or whatever the issues are here with your daughter or is this simply good old fashioned Florida demagoguery?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Obviously, very few people have physically seen my daughter and in regards to what has been going on. When this investigation started, she was 5'8", weighed 112 pounds. She was slender, she was very, very small in stature. She's never gone through male puberty. She's been on hormone blockers. She's been on estrogen.
Starting point is 00:14:52 She posed no risk to anybody. She just wanted to play girls' volleyball. As far as things that they say that I did wrong, her birth certificate, once she entered high school, says female. So that is the birth certificate that I turned into the Florida High School Athletics Association. Everything that I did, I did as a parent.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I never changed any records in the computer. I never did anything as far as my child was concerned, illegal as far as my job is concerned. I did it as a parent. She never displaced anybody from the team. It's high school sports, it's high school volleyball, it's not the Olympics, it's not, I think this was blown out of proportion.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I think all of these trans female sports bands are completely ridiculous, there's no reason for it. I just I find it comical that they made such a big deal out of something that was not a big deal to anybody that was actually involved in it. Jessica Norton or her attorney Jason Starr, thanks so much for being here. Good luck to you and your family here in the free state of Florida. Sorry that was from one of our parodies. I realized the uninitiated are like, what the hell is this clown doing?
Starting point is 00:16:11 That was one of our... We have a lot of fun DeSantis parody songs. And they're almost all Elton John parodies. And I'll give you a guess why we do that. So anyway, thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you. Thank you. A lot has changed over the years, audience. As you've been so kind in pointing out, my shirt size has changed over the years. Look, I started this show as a 19-year-old boy, and now I'm a 38-year-old
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Starting point is 00:17:50 And then we stopped electing a sheriff. I'll give you three guesses why. They were bought and paid for? Corruption scandal, absolutely. And so basically the police director became a position that the mayor appointed and we didn't elect a sheriff like we elected state attorney, like we elect a clerk of court, supervisor of elections, etc. Well, thanks to a state constitutional amendment, we are now forced, all the counties that didn't
Starting point is 00:18:17 have an elected sheriff, there weren't many, were forced, are forced to by this year, by 2024, to elect a sheriff. And to make matters worse, not only we're forced to do something we as local Miamians didn't wanna do, it has to be a partisan race. All other local races are nonpartisan, meaning there's no R, no D, no MPA next to a candidate's name,
Starting point is 00:18:38 but we're forced to have a sheriff's race against our will and we're forced to make it a partisan race. And so obviously that has brought all of the toxicity of bipartisan politics and partisan politics, I should say, into the mix in this race. And we've got something like a total of 15 candidates running in both of the parties, four Democrats and all the rest, another 10 or 11 Republicans running. And two of those candidates are with us now. Democrats, Ricky Mitchell, a retired lieutenant at the Miami Police Department, and John Barrow, a current major and head of the Miami-Dade Police Department's
Starting point is 00:19:15 Personnel Management Bureau on a leave of absence because he's running for office temporarily. Well, you're either going to be sheriff or you're going to go back to work, Major. So here's the thing, Roy. Remember the conversation we had with Uncle Luke's brother, Stanley Campbell, who is running in a Democratic primary for US Senate to run against Rick Scott here in the state of Florida, who was getting no love and no respect from anybody, from his party, from the media. I've been curious about, because it certainly feels like the black candidates running statewide and countywide here in Miami-Dade have not been getting any love. And that's from their own mayor,
Starting point is 00:19:52 who herself is a Democrat, who has endorsed one of the candidates in the Democratic primary, who is, believe it or not, was hand-chosen by her political puppeteer, Christian Olver, the consultant cowboy who has done more damage to politics in the state of Florida and Miami Dade than almost any single one individual.
Starting point is 00:20:13 This is his client, his candidate, and so Danielle Levinkova, who previously had endorsed another candidate, she's now all about this guy. Here's the problem. He's totally unqualified. And she promoted him to Miami-Dade, what is it, some nonsensical thing, like public safety director, which he's not qualified for, so that she can endorse him to run for another position
Starting point is 00:20:38 that he is not qualified for. So I just find that disingenuous. It is a level of political toxicity. I didn't think that even Danielle Levine Cava, who I endorsed four years ago, and ever since then I have watched her slip away from just sanity and decency and good faith. She is now a political monster.
Starting point is 00:20:58 She is a swamp creature. And that's just my opinion. Ricky Mitchell, retired lieutenant, Miami-Dade Police Department, are you feeling the love from your party, from your community, from your mayor? How is this race going? I feel as though I'm out there by myself
Starting point is 00:21:13 to be totally honest with you. I've had really no support from the mayor, nor the Democratic Party to be totally honest with you. there, nor the Democratic Party, to be totally honest with you. And everything is geared as I see it and it's directed towards her choice and the person that she endorsed. There's three other Democrats in the race, but no, I haven't felt any type of support at all.
Starting point is 00:21:48 You think it's fair? Definitely it's not fair. I believe that anyone that's running for an office and the Democratic party, especially an incumbent, should have remained neutral until after the primaries. But that's my opinion. That wasn't, I assume what they felt because they did to the contrary. Major Barrow, have you had an opportunity, for example,
Starting point is 00:22:13 to go before the Miami-Dade County, what they call the DEC, the Democratic Executive Committee, of which I'm a member. I haven't seen you gentlemen come before maybe an endorsement committee, have an opportunity to get the endorsement of your local party in this primary? Have you had an opportunity to, I guess,
Starting point is 00:22:29 make the kind of outreach to the community that you would have been able to if you were James Reyes, for example? I haven't come before the Miami-Dade DEC, which, you know, no invitation was extended. I have spoken to a lot of people, a lot of people in Miami-Dade County, a lot of people in Miami Dade County, a lot of Democrats in Miami Dade County who support my vision.
Starting point is 00:22:50 They understand my experience in this department, what I bring to the table. I am qualified to be the next chair of Miami Dade County. But, you know, those are local Democrats. But from the machine, there hasn't been that much support. You are a major. You're the head of a bureau in the Miami-Dade Police Department. And I will extend the same question to Mr. Mitchell in a moment. But are you more qualified than, say, the candidate
Starting point is 00:23:20 that has been the anointed one by Mayor Levine Cava? I was born and raised here in Miami, Miami-Dade County, born in Carroll City. So I understand not only the need for public safety, because there were crimes being committed in then Carroll City, now Miami Gardens, when I was growing up. I also understand what it is to live
Starting point is 00:23:41 in a historically disadvantaged neighborhood. And that's why I joined the Miami-Dade Police Department nearly 18 years ago. And I've been serving this county from the north end to the south and everything in between for half of my lifetime of administration, investigations, operations there during hurricanes, there through the surfside building collapse, having actually solved crimes and lowered violence in our communities as the major of Hammett's district, the largest districts in the Miami neighborhood department,
Starting point is 00:24:12 the major of Northside district, which has some of the highest crimes and real opportunities to bring that safety to community. So I believe I'm more than well qualified of the candidates to on day one, understand not only the department, what we can do, our resources, our abilities, but where we need to improve and how to work with the community because I've been doing that my whole career. Ricky Mitchell, how about you?
Starting point is 00:24:37 How does your experience stack up to the other candidates in the race? I feel very much so that I'm more qualified than the candidate who was selected as being the golden boy, if I may say. Experience. He has no police experience at all. On the road, responding to calls, anything to that nature. And not only that, okay, he claims to have a love for Miami-Dade County and the residents of Miami-Dade County. However, he's a resident of Broward County. And it's my understanding that his belief is, if he becomes sheriff, at that time he will make the decision to move
Starting point is 00:25:28 to Dade County. That shows a lot of love for the residents in Dade County. Well let's talk about qualifications for a moment. He is the so-called public safety director and so far his achievements appear to be the tragic death of a firefighter during a training mission. It appears to be the fact that while he was working corrections in Broward County, he rubber-stamped a very shady insider contract for six figures on behalf of the sheriff, a company connected to the sheriff for which he has been under ethics investigation over
Starting point is 00:26:00 that and the litany of other issues. The sheriff, I mean in Broward, so he seems to be involved in some sort of shady shit up in Broward. So he seems to be involved in some sort of shady shit up in Broward County, where again, he was in corrections, not in police work. And finally, we've been talking about an ad nausum, the Como Mierda Bowl, Copa America, an international embarrassment where we watched a, I have no trouble calling it a soccer riot
Starting point is 00:26:23 because I think like literally bro, it was a soccer riot in a venue in Miami-Dade County where Miami-Dade police seem to be in charge of security over the operation. I mean, this is a pretty embarrassing and tragic accomplishments for a man who the mayor appointed to a position for which he was not qualified for. So let's talk about Copa America. What would have been James Reyes' role there? What didn't he do? What should he do? And is this, am I correct in blaming him at all for this fiasco? Let's start with Mr. Barrow and then Mr. Mitchell. Well yeah, there, Copa America was an international fiasco seen around the world and there should have been a much more robust plan to respond to that soccer match. I think there was an underestimation
Starting point is 00:27:16 of soccer fans because as I've said my family is from the islands, I'm from the islands and moved to London, half my family moved to London. So in Europe and Barbados and South America, soccer is a big thing. And after matches, sometimes when the opposing team loses, there have been riots. So we needed to be more prepared. I would have to assume it, so I don't wanna assume, but as public safety director,
Starting point is 00:27:41 I would assume that falls under his ultimate control. Now, Miami though, we are, we always like to contribute a new version of, you know, our own, put our own spin on shit. And so, yes, traditionally post-game soccer riots are kind of famous. In Miami, we riot pre-game. That's, that's like, that's our innovation.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's what we bring to the table. Florida is our number one export. and this is what we contribute. We're like, we'll riot before the game. You know, forget this. Mr. Mitchell, I will give you the last word. Copa America, international fiasco. What role did James Reyes play in this? He is considered the chief of police operation. Being the chief of police operation, I feel he should have had a plan laid out, whereas he had met with his staff, as well as the staff of the stadium, Miami Gardens Police, and any other municipality services we might have needed to develop a strategy and a plan that would have avoided making us look like we had nothing under control. Just a foresight to realize a game of that magnitude, you needed a solid plan to be able to control
Starting point is 00:29:08 whatever the situation might have occurred during that particular time. That responsibility should have fallen on the chief of police operation. John and Ricky, it seems like they just treated this like a regular dolphins game. Absolutely. I know there were conversations had about, you know, treating it almost like a
Starting point is 00:29:26 Super Bowl, but there was other conversations of it. You know, it's just a quote unquote soccer game. But yeah, it's not even writing before. It's the fact that folks that didn't have tickets were allowed to even enter the property. There should be checkpoints. And if you don't have a ticket, turn around, don't enter. But now you have thousands of people pressing up against a gate. And then there's no way to get control once it's out of control.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Well, the dog has never been to Super Bowl in 40 years. So I guess they wouldn't know. Not to mention, I don't think they get that kind of attendance either. Clearly, they were unprepared. Gentlemen, before we go, I'd like to give you each a chance, as promised, to give us your stump speech or campaign spiel. 60 seconds, Mr. Barrow.
Starting point is 00:30:09 This is a historic election. I, as a Miami native, growing up in Miami Gardens, I understand the need for public safety. I understand the need for communities of all types, every community in Miami County, to be safe, to be able to play out in front of their yards, to work and visit here safely. And I have the experience over 18 years working in the Miami-Dade Police Department solving crimes in our communities. I love this community. I love this agency. And I want that's why I ran for sheriff. for Sheriff and my top priority is to ensure safety for all, for everyone to fight the status
Starting point is 00:30:47 quo here in Miami-Dade County and bring new solutions, new strategies to our neighbourhoods to make us safer and to make the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office a community-rooted organization with civilian input and civilian oversight so that we can all be safer and stronger together and united and I ask for your vote this August 20th. Vote 61 John Barrow for sheriff thank you. Ricky Mitchell. Bill thank you so much for this opportunity my name is Ricky Mitchell I'm your candidate for Miami-Dade County Sheriff 2024. I'm a native born and raised in Liberty Square projects, went to school here, graduated from Miami Central High. I have an AA degree from Miami-Dade, an AS degree. I have a bachelor's of science in criminal justice from FIU. I have a master's degree. I have a doctorate degree and I have
Starting point is 00:31:35 my law degree. I have 25 years of experience with Miami-Dade Police Department. I have done manifold responsibilities for Miami-Dade Police Department. Working from County Line Road back to Naranja, from the ocean back to Jones Fish Camp. I know the people. My platform is very simple, okay? The safety of our community and our families, the safety of our schools and our churches, the safety of our senior citizens. We have to attack corruption. We have to bridge the gap between the community and the police department. We have to lower gun violence and stop our young kids from losing their life, as well as attack mental illness. I am the person, I am a stand-, children, children, children, children, children, children, children, children,
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Starting point is 00:32:44 children, children, children, children, children, children, to run in this race. I ask for your vote. Number 63, I am the man to do the job. Thank you, Bill. Mitchell for Sheriff 2024.com, Barrow for Sheriff.com. Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. Best of luck to you. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team, faster and for free. As Metal Art Media continues to grow as a content studio, we strive to hire only the best and most qualified candidates.
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Starting point is 00:33:48 Post your job for free at linkedin.com slash prep. That's linkedin.com slash prep. Post your job for free. Terms and conditions apply. ["The Last Post"] Roy, you feeling that Kamala fever? Yeah. Um, again, better than the alternative. I tell you that right now.
Starting point is 00:34:15 But yeah, I mean, come on now. It's not enthusiasm. Have you? Did you see that rally in Atlanta? It's not a people love it. They're off the wall. It's not enthusiasm because I already know who I'm voting for. I don't know who I was gonna vote for for the past four years. So I'm not really
Starting point is 00:34:32 enthused because in my head... ABT? Yeah. ABT. So I don't know, I've never seen a momentum shift like this before in my life. I mean there was an assassination attempt on the former president and current presidential candidate that barely survived a 24-hour news cycle, and the Democrats just swiped it away. And that was a major challenge in the 2016 and 2020 races was to get Donald Trump out of the news. He just sucks up all the oxygen, because let's face it, he's good television.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And television people are in it for good television and in it for good ratings. And so they gave him all the earned media and air time he could possibly, anybody in the world could ever possibly get outside of a third world dictatorship where they control the airwaves. That bullet wound kind of healed quickly, didn't it? Yeah, I mean, his ear looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:35:23 It is new. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I just think he was hit by shrapnel. I don't think there was a bullet that hit his ear, but nonetheless, what I'm saying is that they don't know what to do with the vice president. I mean, JD Vance, when he's not on a couch, you heard that secretly recorded audio when he was at a fundraiser of Republican donors where he admitted the exact opposite of what Donald Trump has been saying publicly, which is, I'm not scared of her, but I won't debate her. I mean, he is, the man's running scared. He's not just running for president scared.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He's like literally running away scared. Not the first time a convicted felon has run from a prosecutor, but JD Vance, dude, like just embodies the kind of, the creepy in-cell like 40-year virgin vibes of this party of just losers, of just outright cucks and creepos and weirdos and sex pests that want to control women's bodies through the law and religion because they can't get any.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Let's just face it, that's what we're dealing with here. And young Americans don't want anything to do with that. And most Americans don't want anything to do with that. And most Americans don't want anything to do with that. They want to turn the page on this, on Trumpism, let the Republicans get their act together. First of all, Trump doesn't know what to say about this lady. Oh, well, he knows what to say about this lady.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, but you can't say- A lot of racism massage. But you can't say the N word or the C word at a rally. So- Oh, you can't? Well, he hasn't. Listen, he comes out and he's basically like, listen, you all know what I'm thinking. I can't say it, but it's the same thing
Starting point is 00:36:51 you guys are all saying at the kitchen table. Just imagine I said it and then you can all clap for me. So he hasn't picked up on the whole DEI hire scheme that they're doing now. It's stupid. It doesn't work. It's not working. JD Vance said in this recording He said this was a political sucker punch Biden dropping out and the vice president Kamala Harris entering the race
Starting point is 00:37:11 They don't know what to say about her. Nothing sticks. She's the real deal. She's experienced She's a lawyer a prosecutor an attorney general a United States senator the vice president. This guy's got nothing on her. However, however, it's not just her. Now you have to worry about the House and the Senate. Yeah, but they're going to get her a nice safe white guy from the Midwest. Probably Mark Kelly from Arizona, a swing state Democrat that can win a statewide election, you know, a governor, a senator, and they'll try to make her say for the racist, but there's already Republicans, Republicans coming out to support her. Here's the thing, I want you to know some people
Starting point is 00:37:50 don't know this about me. I was a registered independent, the NPA from the time I was 18 years old in Miami, 1996. I voted in a presidential election that year for I'll give you three guesses. 96 is presidential, okay, okay so is Clinton? No. I didn't vote for him. No you're guessing. Are these three guesses? Yes. No I didn't vote for him. I'm giving you three guesses. Oh you didn't vote for him? He was in the
Starting point is 00:38:16 election I didn't vote for him. Is Perot still alive? I voted for Ross Perot. That's exactly right. What I'm saying is you can't predict my ballot, is what I'm saying, over my lifetime. I voted for as many Republicans as I have Democrats, maybe more, I'm not just talking about presidents, I'm talking about, I'm a super voter. I vote in every election, no matter how big, no matter how small, it could be a one-issue local referendum on their voting, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:40 I became a Democrat just a few years ago in 2018 because, I'll say this, I didn't leave the Republican party, the Republican party left the United States of America, is what happened. So they left us with one political party. I believe after Trumpism, I want a resurrection of the Republican party as a legitimate, sane, robust party.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Cause I don't think we're better off in America with one political party. I think we need more than two strong sane political parties because you need discourse you need debate you need to try to do as much good as you can and institute as much policy that is helpful and palatable to as many Americans as possible and that comes with good faith discussion which starts from the basis of mutually agreed-upon facts and then you have good faith discussion which starts from the basis of mutually agreed upon facts and then you have good faith policy debates with hopefully multiple
Starting point is 00:39:30 parties and multiple good actors but that's just not what we have right now and the last person was who? John Kasich? I mean, Howard Dean. That's how that guy's political career ended. By going, by exuding joy. By exuding joy. That's exactly right. You can't have joy in this job. You can't have joy in this job, but I think it's funny to see, I mean, the vice president has come out very strongly supporting our Democratic allies on the ground in Venezuela, Viva Venezuela libre, for crying out loud. I would like them to have free and fair elections. It is funny that Donald Trump has not said a word about the fact that a dictator,
Starting point is 00:40:14 strong man punk in Venezuela is literally stealing an election, declaring himself the winner despite all objective evidence to the contrary. It's wild to see Republicans, especially the sedition squad down here in Miami, Congress people like Carlos Jimenez and Mario Diaz-Balart. And there's always a Diaz-Balart.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And there's, well, there's always, it's the dynastic political crime families here.'s maria alvarez salazar coming out talking about they voted against the certification of joe biden's election on january six even after a violent insurrection of people who were trying to steal an election they they tried to through an act of Congress steal an elect a free and fair election so to see them coming out supporting democracy in Venezuela is pure pure comedy and I thank the vice president for her statement showing support to the people who are fighting
Starting point is 00:41:20 for their freedom and their democratic rights in America what I'd like to see is Republicans come together with, you know, across the aisle and work toward democracy and free and fair elections in this country and assure a peaceful transition of power, no matter who wins a free and fair election and stop casting aspersions on, I don't know, where the president of the United States was born.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Is he American? Have we seen a birth certificate? Is he Al Qaeda? Is he African? Is Hawaii even in the United States? I mean, like, let's, we have legitimate presidents, okay? I'll tell you one thing. Donald Trump has never won the popular election.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Never. Republicans running for president hasn't won a public election. How long now? Oh, it's been a minute, but it's okay. We have the Electoral College to help save us from ourselves. You see? Yeah. It helps ensure that, you know, those states' rights. You know what states' rights meant at the time of the framing of the Constitution, don't you, Roy? Yeah, it has a lot to do with slavery and the keeping of black people in bondage, that sort of thing. I just want to let everybody know I have a few black friends.
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