The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - #BecauseMiami: Debate Debacle

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

Comedian Nery Saenz returns as guest co-host with Billy Corben on the heels of the GOP debate. Esquire writer Charlie Pierce decided to be a glutton for punishment and attended that debacle. He gives us his opinions on Ron DeSantis' performance. Plus, culture critic and author of the new book, "Black A.F. History: The Un-whitewashed Story of America," Michael Harriot, tells us how whitewashed the story of America really is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. I'm so sorry. You should be. I'm so sorry. I'm so angry at you right now. Did you watch the entirety of the GOP primary presidential debate, the all of it? Well drunk. Well that's really the only reasonable way of doing it. What'd you think? It was a shit show. Who won? Who won. Uh, is it a, the Vec?

Or Nikki Haley? Oh my God. I think Donald Trump won. I think Donald Trump won. I think Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden and Donald Trump won. I think they virtually guaranteed. Rhonda has this line about how like I say,

go around the country and I talk to people. They don't want to replay of, you know, who's lying? They don't want to replay of like, of 2020, right was that? They don't want to replay of like, of, of, of 2020, right? But that's exactly what they guaranteed. I think this week. As I go around the country and talk to people, I've realized they don't want to talk to me. I realize that because they're looking at their phones as I, as I talk to them.

I do smell. Neri Science. Yeah. Comedian, Kaffircito Comedian. Kaffircito Comedian. Extraordinaire. He's with us again, hot off his big gig at the Miami improv. And now with us, long time writer for Esquire magazine, Helms the Politics blog at Esquire.com, he joins us from Milwaukee, where he attended Wednesday night's shit show.

I'm sorry, Charlie. Got to witness Rhonda Santas' malfunctioning live in the flesh. Charlie, how do you think our governor from the great free state of Florida performed this week at the debate? Well, I think there was one terrifying moment right at the top of the show where he tried to smile. And you look like somebody had shot 10,000 volts through his nuts. It looked, as well as Casey, that's who did it. I mean, that was a hostage tape smile. That smile said to America, please send the money to the dead drop.

That's. I'm reminded of Shirley Temple's traumatizing autobiography where her mother used to say sparkle Shirley, sparkle Shirley, and I heard Casey DeSantis's voice like in Ron's head going, sparkle Shirley, smile, be likable. It was really traumatizing for him and I think for all of us watching that. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard another human being mention that it reminded that he was reminded of Shirley Temple's autobiography. That was a new moment for me. I don't know that you know anyone who's read Shirley Temple's

autobiography. In any event, I think the status made one mistake that is going to come back to bite him and nobody's really called attention to it yet. On a couple of different occasions, he really gilded his military experience. I Was next to some seals At sea world at sea world. He was next to a bunch of seals. I think I'm am is your crew No, but I'm I'm serious those guys Manatee like don't those guys don't miss with people using them as props Hmm don't those guys don't mess with people using them as props.

They're very serious about that whole stolen valor business. And I think sooner or later, that one's going to come back, you know, not that he needs another blank taken out of his ass, but that would going to be a real serious one. So we learned that none of the candidates in the GOP presidential primary believes that human behavior contributes to climate change. None of them support bodily autonomy. I think Ron DeSantis leased the whole. Hey, hey, it was close.

I think she was so close. She was being political about it. Right. But she was the only one. And she was like, can we hear them out? Let's want to talk about it. It was very odd for me to listen to a Republican debate and be like, am I drunk? Because this person seems kind of reasonable.

You were drunk. No, just you said that. Roy was drunk. But you're not a wine. She was, I think she was right, but what she was also saying was like, men shut up. You can't win this. You can't win this. It can't be passed to the Senate. It was political expediency more than anything, but she also said that she is, quote unquote, pro-life. Everybody said their pro-life, six out of eight of them, said that they will support and vote for Donald Trump even if he is a convicted felon at the time of the election. With a delay response from the Santos folks. Who looked around?

Dude, like a school kid cheating on the test, the Santos looked left because he was dead center. Because he's pulling highest, well, the people who showed up, I don't think combined they pull as high as Donald Trump. I think DeSantis looked more like a little kid taking their first dance class, or their first dance class.

You know where you look at the guy next to you to see if he's doing it right? Yeah. He's like, you're a later you vote triple rich else. Yeah, he's the fact kid taking a Zoom class and he's like, he's like, he's like, you're like, you both trippled, Richard. Yeah, he's a fact kid taking a Zoom class and he's like, what are the steps? What am I doing here?

I really, I just wanted him to use his hands to fingers to count like one, two, three, okay, one, two, three, okay, I got to go. Usually, usually he's using his fingers to each chocolate pudding. But no, he looked around the room to see if anybody else was gonna raise their hand and then he, it was so pathetic, it was so sad.

And I wanna play this clip because, you know, this guy's been ducking the abortion question every election cycle. He did it before, he was running for reelection for governor last year, after he had signed the 15 week abortion ban with no exceptions for rape or incest or human trafficking. People were asking, well, you're gonna sign a heartbeat bill,

how much worse is this going to get here? He's always very coy about it. There's always some word salad about it. And for a while, he was coy about it last night until Brett Baer finally cornered him. You got to do what you think is right. I believe in a culture of life. I was proud to sign the heartbeat bill. I remember the most impactful moments of my life was when I heard the heartbeat of my oldest

daughter in my wife's womb and then saw the sonograms of all three of my kids. What the Democrats are trying to do on this issue is wrong to allow abortion all the way up to the moment of birth. I know a lady in Florida named Penny. She survived multiple abortion attempts. Made it. She was left discarded in a pan. Fortunately, her grandmother saved her and brought her to a different hospital. We're better than what the Democrats are selling. We are not going to allow abortion all the way up to birth,

and we will hold them accountable for their extremism. But just a little bit clearer, Governor, would you sign a six-week ban federally? I'm going to stand on the side of life. Look, I understand Wisconsin is gonna do a different than Texas. I understand Iowa and New Hampshire are gonna do different, but I will support the cause of life as governor and as president. Charlie Pierce, three questions. Number one, Penny and a Pan. What are the odds that she actually exists? Number two.

Oh, that one's off the pan. What are the odds that she actually exists? Number two, that one's off the boards. No bet. That is an absolutely made up story. As I believe was the story about the kid who took one sent and all-acid percussed and died. Second question about this clip. flip. Pony. Where is there, Pony in a pan? Where is there abortion up until the moment of birth? Where is that? He was saying it only happens and it almost never happens when the fetus is completely non-viable. Right.

And the mother is health is in danger. Nobody's fighting for that. No, there's no Democrat That's like we should be able to Nobody and I like the fact that he just went so extreme. He's like it's either six weeks or nine months There's no in between actually. There's about seven months in between He needs he needs putting fingers I've got a question for the Floridians down there. Oh, God. I'm a little bit unsure That heartbeat building. He was so proud to sign.

Yes. Didn't he sign that sucker at midnight? He did. He signed it at midnight. And then the next day he had a press conference and didn't even bring it up. That's what I'm saying. He's always trying to duck the question,

but that's what I want to ask you, Charlie. So, so, so, so one of the proudest moments of my life was when I heard the heartbeat of my first born. I'm out of the two. That was a so proud. But then it's one of the proudest moments of my life was when I heard the heartbeat of my first born. Now, my other two, that was a so proud one. It was actually in the womb when I happened. So oh my God. So I refuse to say six week abortion ban because that's not a thing.

It is an abortion ban full stop. I know these rich white men don't understand a woman's cycle, but six weeks is just insufficient time to even know that you're pregnant reasonably. So my question is, he just on national television said, I would sign. I will sign as I did as governor as president. If I am made president, I will sign a federal abortion ban. In any sane world, in any sane America, the America that I grew up in, that would be the end. That would be the end of a campaign. Yeah, well. If you start calibrating things around

this once would have killed a campaign, there wouldn't be anybody left on that state. Yeah. Seriously, because we have like Ramaswani's solution campaign there would be anybody left on that state but there's a because of the grandma swammy's solution to the climate crisis is to do or what created the climate crisis and to disband the f.b.i. I heard a story that's just nuts that's a bold strategy calling let's see how it works out for them

you've got them right me bold and i have to ask about you know this is the thing to you ask about about Florida and Florida's perspective, not that we have any perspective. And if you're confused about Florida, rest assured, Floridians are confused about Florida. But there was a lot of gross misrepresentations of this guy and his record. I mean, the audience clapped when he talked about getting rid of CRT. I don't think the audience knows what CRT is. The audience clapped when he admitted to removing duly elected officials from their positions because he disagreed with them. He talked about how we need education, not indoctrination.

A week after they approved the Florida Department of Education, Prager you who proudly proclaims their educational quote unquote educational materials to be indoctrination materials and finally talked about our country being in decline and That we need of course the punchline that he used over and over again about Joe Biden needs to go back to his basement I'm surprised he didn't say dustbin of history or whatever he likes to say but he said that we must reverse Bi dynamics so that the middle-class families have a chance to succeed again by nomics so that the middle class families have a chance to succeed again. We cannot succeed as a country if you are working hard in California for groceries, a car, or a new home. And of course, he had to mention Hunter Biden for the bingo card. Charlie in Florida, it's all worse. The average

inflation, national average is like 3%, it's 9% in Florida. The cost of a home, we have the least affordable housing market in the country down here. We are paying two and three times for home insurance, car insurance, people are being dropped from Medicare and Medicaid who shouldn't be like all of the things that he is blaming Biden for are two, three, four times worse here in Florida. Well, yes, and we have even mentioned leprosy. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. We have. Ha ha ha ha.

We're bringing it back. We're bringing leprosy back, Charlie. I was going to say makes leprosy great again. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. First of all, the guy is the worst retail politician I've ever seen. Yeah. The guy makes my old friend Michael DeCoccus look like he went long. Remember when I was just, when I was in, it was, it was enough to go,

woo! When I was in, I was in, I was in, you kicked off the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, wow, we won. Woo! Yeah, Howard Dean, and that was the end of his whole campaign. I was so career. I was so career. I was so career. I was so political career. He was done, he was an elite, and then we sent him back to the basement. And then now people are like, let's see who could say the crazier thing. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure Vivek said, disband the FBI. I'm pretty sure he said that. He has said that. I don't know if he said it last night. I don't remember. It was in B CrossTalk. CrossTalk. pretty sure he said that. Boy, he has said that. I don't know if he said it last night. I don't remember. It was in, buddy. He has to talk. Yeah, he said it was some cross talk. And it was just,

I mean, bonkers. Yeah. Charlie Pears find him at sqire.com. Better you than me, I guess. Thank you for falling on your sword and going to Milwaukee for us. It's been a gas avoid the Leprecy. You got them right meatball. Tuesday Miami Mayor Francis Suarez campaign was deleting online posts like this. I'm very excited to let you all know that

we have qualified for the first joking debate. Euroniously claimed that last week saying quote, see you in Milwaukee. See you in Milwaukee even though I'm not permitted to participate in a debate. I still claim that I'm in it. Yo, you can't say that.

It's over just because it didn't start. It only cost a dollar for a $20 gift card. Fends are breathing down my neck and giving me in China over half a million dollars from a flower shop in China Rusted shirt, all my numbers are legit I didn't start a campaign to just fundraisin and pocket it A president...

Ni de corna If you put garbage in, you're going to get garbage out. Fear and Florida men on the campaign trail, Neri signs. Miami Mayor Ponce Postalita, Francis Suarez, announced last week, both he and his political committee that he had made the debate. He had qualified for the debate. There was a whole list of, you had to have a certain number of unique contributors, you know, donating to the campaign. So we tried all kinds of schemes.

You know, we had raffled off messy in report. Lauderdale tickets. He sold $20 of these gift cards for a $1 donation to his campaign. And then he claimed that he was polling at at least 1% in multiple national and early primary state polls. It was not true. We don't even know if any of it was true, but he lied and it was, I guess I kind of missed him on the debate stage to tell you the truth. I would have loved to have seen what he would have quote, quote, contributed on the debate stage because already we talked

about that's already a shit show to begin with, but I would have loved to have seen what he would have been like, Hey, guys, guys, guys, Bitcoin, huh? Like I just would have loved to have seen him say some crap and you're like, what people are like, what are you talking about? Like what are the couple of bros? Yeah, well that's a question. Like what would the Francis Suarez, GOP presidential primary debate bingo card have looked like? What would like Bitcoin obviously?

Obviously. Would be one. He's already talked about that. He's talked about that if he was to become president. Right. That he's open to accepting Bitcoin as payment. Well, let me rest assured, that will not be an issue.

I think he has the same odds of becoming president as I have, of becoming president, which is 0.0%, or less than zero, which is how he was pulling in some places. Even though he's the way it's like, he was pulling at 0.3% or 1%. The margin of error was like 4% or 5%,

meaning that he still could actually be pulling at negative 4%. That's how he pulls in my house. And that's how he pulls in my house. And it totally, he finally, finally backtracked and had to admit that he didn't actually, despite posting videos about it, he posted a big pinned tweet that said, see you in Milwaukee.

I qualified. And man, he just got brutalized by the press. So earlier this week, on Monday and Tuesday, Francis Suarez had the worst 36 hours ever. Of a political campaign? I think of his life. I think of anybody's life, really. It's what the South Florida business and Wealth magazine called.

Mayor Swar has his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. I mean, there was just vicious, vicious coverage from every major news outlet, the broadcast networks, the cable channels, every online periodical, and we have a tiny, tiny sample of them here in the top five Francis Suarez headlines from his worst day ever. Number five, after failing to make the debate,

Francis Suarez deletes old tweet saying he made it. Can we do sad trombone for this one? I don't know if I'm gonna have it, but look. This type 5 is brutal. Number 4 is a tie. Neri. Okay. There are two zingers from the Miami New Times.

The first is Mayor Suarez Bologna peddling goes national with presidential debate fiasco. Mr. Mayor, you're brilliant, you were super smart. And the other tied for fourth is Congressman calls Francis Suarez clown following presidential debate debacle. I like that they were married to presidential debate debacle. If he asked go that kind of stick. In Miami we are definitely not woke. So number three.

That's right. Rhett Madgates rips Miami Mayor Suarez after he fails to make debate stage. Do you have that guy? That guy. That guy. Oh my god. She's ripping it to you.

That's hilarious. Can you imagine that guy? Oh boy. When Representative Venmo is dunking on you, and let me tell you, there wasn't one tweet. There was two tweets. There was like three or four tweets in like rapid succession where you could clearly just see Beavis there like cackling over his phone like as he was sending these tweets.

It was miserable. I know that's where Francis Suarez. Number two, it's time for Francis Suarez to drop out of 2024 GOP presidential race according to Francis Suarez. How can I help? Because Francis Suarez. How can I help? Because Francis Suarez had previously said multiple times at the Iowa State Fair and on television

that if a candidate didn't make this first debate that it was over, that they should drop out of place. And then they asked him, that include you. And he says, yes, if that would be me. Like they clarified and he's like, we up, don't go down. No, he said, you God damn right, meatball. You never never never hear too much of, you know, of that. And number one from the hometown Miami Herald.

Suarez's VIP appearances at F1 World Cup spark complaint to state ethics commission. Oh, excuse me. I was the metal art buffet at the golden corral over there, the island in the kitchen. And their logic is that he went to these things. So then they're saying it's not ethical for him to. So here's what happened. So Formula One weekends, two of them, 22 and 23. He was a guest this year in 23, at least, of Ken Griffin.

The billionaire from Chicago moved down here. He has business before the city. He is a client of Francis Waris' law firm. And he has many lobbyists on his payroll who are lobbying the city and lobbying the mayor. And so you cannot take a gift of more than $100 without first declaring it, but second, this was worth at least $34,000

that he accepted for free. But I'm sure none of that would take into account when it comes time to making laws and approving things at this guy. I'm sure nothing. No, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. This man is nothing but objective and fair and would never exploit his his private position for

But the highest of moral standards. Yeah, I mean say King Griffin I thought you're talking about the former Seattle Mariners. I'll feel it. No, I'm talking about the billionaire hedge fund Pimp from Illinois from Chicago who moved down here bought Adrian arched house Sure as you do as one does and has now been very generous in this community, particularly to the mayor. And also, the mayor was spotted at the World Cup last year. In the private box of David Beckham, who himself is a registered lobbyist

in the city of Miami. This is some real, real unethical, potentially corrupt shit that's as what I was doing, okay? Horoscope man, bro. So this is, I like to see in airy space, I'm gonna be to play that. Wait, bro, ladies, I just go through the whole car. Oh, Carlos, let's hear it.

Cause you know, I say bro a lot. The name of one of my podcasts is called What's Up Bro. So I say bro a lot, but I'm not a mayor. So I should be able to say bro all lot but the foot I'm not a mayor. I should be able to say bro all the time but I'm not a mayor. I'm not a mayor. So here's the thing I think this is basically over Francis Suarez's presidential campaign and I don't know how I feel about it. The one hand I want to dance a horror and on the other hand I want to sit Shiva. I don't really know.

It's bittersweet. But here's the thing. If he's off of the presidential campaign, does that mean he's back into the Miami-Mayer office? Well, one thing's for sure. He's not going to be running around the country lying about his record and taking credit for accomplishments that he had less than nothing to do with. Now with that attitude, this is Challenge accepted for for for this.

This is a guy who ran on his record as the mayor of Miami launched his campaign three thousand miles away in California. Sure. Okay. And did not get a single endorsement or any support whatsoever from another elected official in Miami who served with him. No commissioners, no mayors. There's like 34 municipalities plus a county mayor and date county.

None of them came out in support of this guy. I mean, this was just an absolute utter humiliation. You had two congressmen, Gates and in that other headline Carlos Jimenez who both took Shots of the car. I meant is called him a clown And that was the nicest thing he's ever said about yeah They didn't have beef when the whole thing happened with the buildings that came down There were like they were those two were beef your a him and nothing but nothing but beef This guy's but but the question is is what?

Does this guy have a future because I I thought that he was going to run for president. He was vying for some kind of cabinet post in a second Trump administration if it was going to happen. And then he'd come back, he'd raise a ton of money, and he'd come back. But he has an FBI investigation open on him. Name a mayor in my media that doesn't have an ongoing FBI investigation. It's a right of passage.

He's like, he's a bar mitzvah. That's hilarious. It really is. But I would It's like a key say, a rebar mitzvah. That's hilarious. You know, it really is, but I would have thought that he was gonna run for county mayor against Danielle Levine Kavanaugh next year, but I think he was so humiliated. I think he is just like... You're missing.

You're, I don't think you're, you don't know, the depth of his, how you can't not humiliate somebody like that. You and I would be humiliated. Reasonable people would be humiliated. This guy sees that as a notch on his belt. He's like, bring it, you see, I survived that. You and I would be humiliated. Reasonable people would be humiliated. This guy sees that as a notch on his belt. He's like, bring it, you see, I survived that. I can survive more humiliated. That's how he sees it.

Financial literacy skills. I think if I made a documentary about this guy, it would be called Cuckold Cowboys. I like the fact that you say, if, believe you know you're gonna, you know you're gonna. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don you're gonna, but don't, don't come on man. If, if, if is Spanish for when? If, yeah. We've talked a lot on this program about the Florida Department of Education's ludicrous and racist new black history curriculum.

We've had a particular emphasis on the section that addresses the so-called benefits of slavery. I'm doing air quotes now. So hard I'm getting carpal tunnel. Journalists and cultural critic who has been called one of the most eloquent writers in America. Michael Harriet, he is also the author of the upcoming book, Black A.F. History, the unwite wash story of America. And I can't wait to read T.F. out of it. In one of his recent op-eds at the greo.com entitled Florida's Black History Standards are even worse than reported. Michael makes the bold observation that the benefits of slavery section in this curriculum

is barely the tip of the iceberg that actually once you dig into these new standards of the Black History curriculum here in the state of Florida, it gets so much worse. He is also a self-proclaimed wipeipologist. I believe Royal U study wipe apology in school, didn't you? Yes. Yes. In fact, he does it every day here on the show. I have a doctor in it.

Yeah, it's an ongoing experiment in Roy's life. Michael Harriet, thank you so much for being here. And let's dive right in. You've got a list of 10, but can you give us some of the low lights here? How does it get worse than a section entitled the benefits of slavery? How could it get any worse? Well, one of the things that I pointed out is that the curriculum takes this perception

that whites, like the only time it mentions white people is for when they helped black people. So for instance, it doesn't mention any slave owners except for black slave owners. And so that is somewhat of a doubt. So it mentions two names, and which means that the teachers are required to teach that these two black people own slaves in spite of the fact that 99.5% of slave owners were white so you left with that narrative that Republicans always say or there were black people on slaves too

It talks about slavery. It talks about slavery in this broad view. And does it specify that, you know, the, the kind that was in America was race-based. It was intergenerational. It was perpetual. It was inhabited. And it was constitutional, right? So most of the countries that got rid of it's slavery did so because, you know, someone argued before their version of a Supreme Court or justice that, hey, this is illegal in our country and they got rid of it. We couldn't do that in America.

We had to change the fundamental document that our country was founded on to get rid of it. It doesn't mention that. The interesting thing though is that it pushes this conservative narrative. For instance, it points out that it lists the civil rights people that the teachers are supposed to teach about, right? So like Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King. And then it lists black civil rights leaders like Thomas Sauer, who was not a civil rights leader.

He was just a conservative black dude who Republicans echo because he's black and it lists these black conservatives as civil rights leaders, despite the fact that these guys have never let a civil rights organization. Most black people don't respect their opinions on civil rights or black movements. And so it takes all of these conservative narratives and it seem it's them and it makes teachers teach them to students across the state. Between what's happening in Florida, what's happening in Arkansas, with Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying that she doesn't want to teach African-American studies because she doesn't want to quote unquote spread hate.

And between what happened on Wednesday's debate with all the candidates saying that they want to go out to teachers unions and wanting to get rid of the Department of Education. Let's say both sides of Congress and the White House worst case scenario goes red. Could there be a situation where there's a nationwide policy on what the teach students in school? Yes, that's very likely. So first of all, this idea of

getting rid of the US Department of Education is not a new idea. It is going to Republican talking point for a few years, right? But Betsy DeVos, who was the Secretary of Education, is an advocate of getting rid of the Department of Education. So that these standards won't be nationalized. And there's also a little, another subtle reason because the Department of Education is what gives out Pell grants and these loans so that underprivileged and people in lower income families can attend college. That idea is longstanding, but the idea of a nationwide standard of teaching what they could teach has been around for a long time. It started with the lost cause movement, right? And in a sense, it already exists, right?

Because if you see there are certain things in textbooks, I did an article a few years ago about, look, I went and researched the senators who were opposed to teaching the Civil War. And I looked into what they learned about the Civil War from the textbooks they used when they were in school. And so this standardized national textbook thing is a product of the lost cause movement that's been around since the 1900s. And so in a sense, they have already white white like the thing that they're fighting against this white white version of history

like the thing that they're fighting against this white watch version of history is an effort to cement the efforts to unwhite watch the history that they successfully white watch in the early 20th century. Having been a product of the Miami-Dade County public school systems, the Florida public education system, I can attest to the fact that I think the black history curriculum was already woefully inadequate to begin with back when I was in school. But now, after falsely labeling that and other curriculum here in the public school system as, you know, left wing indoctrination

and misinformation, there in fact, deliberately using that as an excuse that false premise to justify what is unquestionably right wing indoctrination and replacing facts, though perhaps woefully inadequate with deliberate misinformation and propaganda. That's why I think it's so important to call out some of this misinformation which you do in your op-ed. So let me ask you about this one particular line that I just

found absolutely fascinating that black quote unquote patriots fought in the American Revolution. So that's been a thing that's been around for a long time and I write about it in my book and there is no documentation or no basis for that, right? So most of the black people who fought in the American Revolution fought against America. Four times is a meeting. A scholars estimate about 5,000 fought for the United States, or what we call the Patriots, not the ones from New England.

But about 20,000 to 25,000 fought against the Patriots. And there was a specific reason, right? Because they weren't fighting for Patriots and there was a specific reason right because they were fighting for like Give us one country right a country. This is like a British franchise over here in America But what they were fighting for was their own freedom So the British says hey if you fight for us will free you the Americans The ones who fought for America were forced into The ones who fought for America were forced into fighting for the US because they were replacing they were like substitute soldiers for white guys who didn't want to fight or they were promised like, hey, if you fight for us, then maybe we'll free you.

Well, they were niggas almost every time, but they were fighting for their own freedom. They didn't even have this idea of like, you know, fighting for what's the patriot cause, right? This freedom didn't exist with them, so they wouldn't have anything to fight for. It's all, that's like Operation Human Shield in the South Park, in the South Park movie, where they had like literally like all the black people, like why would like just as body substitutions?

That's like horrendously awful, right? That's just Jesus Christ. And that's what they're teaching. That's what we're not teaching, I guess. That is what they want to start teaching now in Florida schools. And Michael, let me ask you that this one is particularly compelling because it's, I think it speaks to the misinformation that a lot of us have been taught for quite some time now.

But now specifically, according to your op-ed, the standards will supposedly teach students about the, quote, political figures who strove to abolish the institution of slavery, end quote, such as Abraham Lincoln. And Florida also requires its educators to explain, quote, the desire of the Continental Congress to end the importation of slaves, end quote. And George Washington is listed as a, quote, key figure in the quest to end slavery, end quote and George Washington is listed as a quote, key figure in the quest to end slavery. End quote. Why is this bullshit?

So again, back to that narrowly like, you know, Rhonda Santas always says that, well, the reason slavery ended was because the founders set forth this path that would eventually end slavery. Well, George Washington chased an enslaved woman that he previously owned on a judge to escape until he died. He didn't free a single enslaved process during his life. He'd never introduced a bill. He'd never introduced legislation. He'd never talked to Congress about ending slavery. So that's just absolutely false. The same thing is true with Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln expressly said that if I could save the union by freeing all of the slaves, I would,

if I could save the union by freeing none of them, I would. My goal is not to enslave rebutto save the union. And then we also have documentation of where he says, like, my I believe that there must be a position of superior and inferior. And as long as I'm alive, the superior position will belong to the white man. So teaching this, like this one isn't white wise, it's just a false narrative to kind of ensure that people believe this so-called idea of American exceptionalism and that we are the ones who dreamed up the idea of liberty and justice for all is just wrong, right?

And I don't even think like the Republicans, they'll say, well, this makes people hate America and I don't even think that, right? Like if you had a bad roof on your house and you said, man, this roof on my house thinks it doesn't mean you hate your house. That mean you don't want to live there anymore. It means, hey, there's something wrong with my house. And I want to address the problem because I like my house, because I like my home, because I want to live here. And those are two different things. So any criticisms of America's history is not hate for this country. It is a desire to do what they say in the Constitution,

create a more perfect union. And as the famous saying goes, if you do not learn history, you are doomed to repeat it. And I do want to point out one really compelling thing. Am I gonna be a slave? What's going on? Well, in Florida? In Florida? I mean, there's no telling. I mean, the backwards slide here, I think is scary. It's beyond just like, you know, education curriculum.

And because there's gonna be a generation of Floridians, of children who are gonna learn this bile and be told that this bullshit is gospel. And there's a fact in Michael's article that's sort of the mic drop on this George Washington being listed as a key figure in the quest to end slavery. And that he died owning 317 enslaved people. So what did he do to end slavery?

And again, does that mean you hate George washington does that mean he's not the first president united state is that mean is not a uh... hero of the american revolution whatever you want to say it doesn't again to to michael's point it doesn't make you hate you know doesn't you don't have to hate you just have to accept that these people were fundamentally flawed the people who founded this country

but then that gets into it a even deeper discussion about systemic racism and the idea that this country was built on a foundation like of racist, by racist, for racist. And that we've been trying to, that for decades or centuries, we've been trying to undo and roll back.

And now, or I should say move forward, not roll back, but move forward and beyond that and be better than that. And now we're in the case, at least here in Florida. And the Florida today is the Arkansas of tomorrow, as we know, we export this Florida to other states in the union. And they think that this is somehow a good idea

and a move toward the future. I think this is what belongs to paraphrase Rhonda Santis in the dustbin of history. Is this lies, misinformation, and propaganda. It's about teaching the truth, not about teaching hate. And Michael, I'll give you the last word. Well, one of the things that I'd like to point out is that these people aren't opposed to black history.

They're opposed to white history. They're opposed to white history. They're trying to whitewash what white people did. They're trying to whitewash the brutality of what white people did, the systems that white people dreamed up to give advantages to white people. So it's not black history. They're okay with you saying something about Harriet Tubman, but what they're trying to do is erase their history. I don't know about that, Mike. Well. I think it might be both on that one.

Little, little column A, little column B, right? Is there any talk about, it's like mixing into slushies, they're seminal oven. Is there any talk, Michael, in the curriculum, because I haven't looked through it, but is there any talk about how much the white people sacrifice, giving black people the rides over here? Like is there like any kind of that? Yeah, they talk about that. Like slavery was existed on every continent and in every culture.

They don't talk about the differences in America's version of slavery, but the rides. Like if they just gave us back our gas money and gave us, you know, all of our stuff that we helped them build, we'd be cool with that too. So, like, give us back the gas money, bro. You can find Michael Harriet at thegreo.com also pre-order his new book, which is coming out like any day now or any week now, Black AF history, the unwite wash story of America.

And I know there's gonna be a lot of pissed off people out there that are gonna wanna call the because Miami complaint line. After that, 786-505-9842, that's 786-505-9842. I think we pissed off some racist, so I hope we get some voicemails. I think we pissed off some racist, so I hope we get some voicemails. Did you guys watch the documentary, the Swamp Kings? No.

Why? I'm not gonna watch that. No, I am not a Gators fan, sorry for all my Gator friends. Sorry. It's you don't his hands one but no, but all right So I have not seen it either all right well from Billy's perspective I kind of understand from me Roy just cuz you're not or I guess your UN fan is I am yes I don't have any college allegiance. I went to Mamiday Community College for seven years for seven years I want there. I want to Mamiday Community College for so long that while I was going there, Mamie Day Community College got accredited and became Mamie Day College.

They dropped the C. Yeah, so Mamie Day Community College. I'm playing C students at that class. Oh, Mamie Day Community College actually graduated, I got a degree before I did, because I never got a degree at the college. Did you study YP biology? I did. I did. And so I had a transfer a big green collar. Did you study YP biology? I did. I did. I did. I love. And so I'm a transfer to FIU.

But you FIU, anyways, I watched the documentary. I gotta say two things. One, I enjoyed the documentary, but I enjoyed it as like saying like, oh, this is really cool, but you left a lot off the table. It's like somebody watched your documentary, the U, Billy, and then said,

I wanna do this, but not as good. That's what I wanna do this. That's flattering. Really, they were really like, because you being a UM alum, were like, I'm gonna talk about everything, the good, bad, and the ugly. And they were like, we're gonna talk about everything,

the good, the awesome, and the great. And I was like, okay, all right, that's all right. That's the way to go. That's one way to go about it, I guess. From what little I was like, okay, all right, all right, that's, whatever, that's a way to go, that's one way to go about it, I guess. From what little I've heard about it, like you can't, you shouldn't as a rule take the Florida out of the University of Florida and you should never take the f***ery out of Florida f***ery. Like that's part of the appeal to me of that story, but again, this is the challenge of

making documentaries these days. When it comes to celebrities, whether it's sports or music or whatever it is, it's all access-driven now. And so, or a lot of it is access-driven now. And so, what you're not making documentaries about people anymore, you're making documentaries with people. They're all like kind of co-producers. And, you know, the only way they'll participate is if they have,

if not final cut, then at least some editorial say. And as a result, it makes it a little bit harder to tell the truth or the whole truth about certain things. I was just waiting for them to mention Aaron Hernandez, right? Did they? They literally mentioned. And that's it, man. They were like, it man. They were like passing. They were like this was this was a tie-in for Floor. No, they literally said that's it. This is the

they said this you may have heard of them. I think it was like 2008 or whatever it was like nice function. They said that year's incoming freshman class. This was how great the class was and they named all these people. One of which being Aaron Hernandez. That was it. They didn't talk about that. They did it. That was right. Yeah, they really were like, oh, we had, look at how this talent that we had on the field.

But, and they're not wrong. There was talent on the field, but there was. He was a killer. He was. They're generally killed on the field. Yeah. And so they ended off. They didn't, they didn't do mention anything.

There was like, they for like, I'm not even exaggerating for like 45 seconds, they talked about that a lot of these players would get in trouble by the law. There would be a lot of bar fights. You don't say that. And but they did mention, they didn't mention, you know what they mentioned, they mentioned the lawyer that works for the University of Florida.

Does he got his, they said that the University of Florida one guy, one player did say the University of Florida. Basically, guys, they said that the University of Florida one player did say the University of Florida runs Gainesville. It's not the mayor, it's not the sheriff, it's the University of Florida. And if you think somebody from the University of Florida is gonna allow their players to go like, so that's like literally 45 seconds of every time. In episode three of a four episode series,

I enjoyed the hell out of the, out of the docu-series, but just as a football fan, and then I was just like, as a comedian just laughed, and I was like, you're just gonna glass over the murders, that's hilarious.

Well, speaking of future college football documentaries and the making, breaking news, John Ruiz, the University of Miami's former NIL sugar daddy. His company Life Wallet is facing its first class action lawsuit for allegedly misleading its shareholders and squandering shareholder money to bankroll flights aboard his luxurious 767.

The chat list has like a movie theater and it's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's not being asked in the bankruptcy. It's so, oh gosh. I hope Tyler Van Dyke winds up with it. Is what I, is what I hope. So, is life wallet? That was the app that, like, you have everything on your information in there? Yeah, if you'd like to give John H. Ruiz all of your, all of your credit card information, your medical history, your social security number, your, yeah. That just seems like a bad idea. It does. By the way, there's no company anymore. It's just lawsuits, like defending themselves and suing other people.

And the funniest thing is they were just sued last week by a company that they owe $60, like $7 million to, and they just filed in response to that. Because in that lawsuit, they call life wallet and alleged Ponzi scheme and like an outright like fraud. And so life wallet is said, we'd like to strike those words from the pleading. Like, just to at least you can accuse us of all this shit, but don't call us a Ponzi scheme. Hi, Diel Smyro. And now, speaking of con men and fraudsters, our Miami moment is a flashback to former Florida house speaker Jose Oliva

from Halea. He's actually from Miami Lakes, but you know, Halea, Miami Lakes tomato tomato, you know, plant and plantain. It's the same thing. But he was just brought on as part of the reboot of the Rhonda Santis presidential campaign as a spokesperson and senior advisor. But here he is talking to Jim DeFeedy on CBS and repeatedly calling women, quote, a host body end quote, when asked about abortion. There's a host body. And that host body has to have a certain amount of rights because at the end of the day, it is that body that carries this entire other body to term. The question is, what is the value of that life and is it subordinate to the value of its host body? And so then one has to think,

to what time does the host body have veto power over this other life? You realize there are a lot of people who will hear you use phrases like host body and say to you, that's a woman, that's a person. That's not a, you know, you're sort of creating a scenario where you're looking at that not so much as a person but as a host body.