The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - #BecauseMiami: Managed Retreat

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Damian Pardo, who is running against Sabina Covo for a commissioner's seat in Miami's District 2's run-off election, and James Torres, who ran against Damian Pardo just recently in the general electio...n, joins Billy Corben in-studio to talk about political partnerships and Covo's wooing of Torres for his support. Also, NBC 6 hurricane specialist John Morales joins the show to talk about that vicious storm that happened in South Florida this week. Plus, Tonya Galiñanes was a librarian at Tohopekaliga High School in Kissimmee, Florida for a decade before being driven to resign from her post due to Florida's laws on banned books. She talks to Billy about what she went through. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. The City of Miami is at a critical juncture, and District 2 looks to be the turning point. With two of five Miami commissioners known to be involved in shady deals and even flat-out corruption, the District 2 election is our inflection point. I'm Michael Putney and that's why I'm doing something I've never done before endorsing a political candidate for public office. And that candidate is Damian Pardo. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Michael Putney's right. We are living through one of the most corrupt eras
Starting point is 00:01:23 in the history of the city of Miami. That was the voice of Michael Putney recently retired really the dean or godfather of local political reporters of Miami news anchors period in the modern era. And he's doing something he's never done, which is endorse Damian Pardo for City Commissioner in District 2. This is against Sabine Kovow, whose song you may remember along with. You know what, I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I don't know. I don't even know. Sabine Kovov was elected last February in a special election after Ken Russell resigned, and she has instantly become a part of the Miami Mafia. Her reelection campaign against now in a runoff with Damien Pardo is being financed by the Miami Mafia, by corrupt commissioner Joe Corroyo, by commissioner Alex Diaz Laportia, who was just arrested and removed from office two months ago, who's also running for reelection
Starting point is 00:02:18 as well. And she has really become a part of the toxic culture of shady backroom deals, quid pro quoes, some may argue bribery. I'm really pleased to be joined by both Damian Pardo, who is running against Sabina Kovov for District 2, City of Miami. And James Torres, who just two weeks ago, you guys were rivals. You were running against each other in this general election, then what wound up happening is Sabina Kovov got the most votes, Damien, you got the second most votes and
Starting point is 00:02:50 you wind up in a runoff now with the incumbent commissioner. But James, I think it's great because it's good for diplomacy, it's good for democracy, it's nice to see you both here and I should say first and foremost, congratulations to you, Damien, on making the runoff. Thank you, Billy, and thank you for having us here. I mean, I can tell you we were incredibly excited and incredibly honored. We thanked the community, our volunteers, especially because for once, the idea that monies and monies that are given to candidates have an undue influence in governing and those interests, those
Starting point is 00:03:25 moneyed interests are not the residents interests and they often go against. So the idea that money can affect you in your everyday life, meaning you have more traffic, you have more flooding, the character of your neighborhood starts changing. That was a foreign idea for most people. Now they're starting to understand, well, when land use attorneys and lobbyists and all these other people, a lot of them doing good work, but many bad actors as well. And the bad actors get away with murder in this city. And that's what really we're trying to stop. James and I ran very similar campaigns. We were calling out corruption all the time. In fact, we probably were the two people that
Starting point is 00:04:03 spent the most time at the polls on the street in front of people. So it's no surprise that we would both be sitting here today. And that's the disturbing thing, of course, is that Miami is one of the poorest cities in the country. And what you have is a government that does not respond to their constituents. They respond to the moneyed interests.
Starting point is 00:04:22 They respond to their own self-interest. Oh, what they do is they the moneyed interests, they respond to their own self interests. Oh, what they do is they manage the residents interests, right? Like that's when you hear, oh, we're gonna get a traffic study. And then everybody's supposed to just shut up and go home. You know, and wait for this study, which when it ultimately comes out, it doesn't really alleviate the problem at hand for most people.
Starting point is 00:04:40 James, you ran in the special elections. You've really been running against corruption, running against Sabina Kovou in particular, the now incumbent for nine months, Damian, you for five months. James, you are the president of Miami DNA, the downtown neighbors alliance. And you're here now supporting you
Starting point is 00:04:56 of publicly endorsed, of course, Damian Pardo for the seat. But what I'm interested in is how that started. How did this sort of, this team up occur? Billy, thanks for having me. We look at things a little bit different here is we have conversations right before the end of the campaign. We kind of project within ourselves. You make it I make it. What can we do, right? Because we all ran against the problem that's there at City Hall, which is the corruption piece, right?
Starting point is 00:05:24 You're punching up, right? Correct. And, you know, I decided at that point and we kind of made a pack and said, if you win, I win, we're going to support each other. Who is we? We, it was Damien, myself, and Eri Leal, who's not here, who's birds of a feather are kind of flocking together on that side of the camp. All three of you have been on the show previously.
Starting point is 00:05:43 We invited Subinacovov to be here. We did not hear back from her. So the three of you presumed that one of you was going to come in second and make the run off against Sabina Kovov. You were right, by the way. And so the three of you then, Damian, Pardo, James Torres, and Edily Al decided,
Starting point is 00:05:58 whoever ends up in the run off, we are going to endorse and support that person, consistent with really your entire, all three of your campaigns. Correct. Because of the values that we all stood for that were different than what she currently has. So what happened? Well someone flew over the kukusness. I decided, right, because of Miami, right? I decided, you know, I evaluated everything. I got phone calls after the campaign. And once I got those phone calls, I sat down with both candidates and we had conversations. Hey, I need your support.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Damien was the first one that came to me and not asking for support, asking how he can help. And that was an idea to me that said, he really wants to make a difference for the community and attacking the crisis that we have on homeless issue, the traffic issues and all these other components that aligned with what I believe in. And then I met with Sabina, and it was a very dark and grayish in a way.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And it was, hey, I need your support. What is it gonna take? And can I offer you a position at the AmniCRA as a contractor making over $120,000? I'm sorry, she offered you a job in the city government. Six-figure position, no less. By the way, in a city where I think the median household income is what? Between 50 and $60,000.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So she's offering you a job two or three times the median household income of the constituents, of the residents of the city of Miami in exchange for your supporting and endorsing her. And endorsing her. Well, I mean, did you have to provide a resume? Did she not understand? I mean, not that you're not qualified. I'm just saying like a job, a public position like that should be noticed. There should be interviews. There should be legitimate consideration of skill set and education, et cetera, right?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Right. There is. And I was taken aback by that because I'm like, is this the right thing? Like, this is, doesn't sit. It was just weird, right? Right, there is. And I was taken aback by that because I'm like, it's just the right thing. Like this is doesn't sit. It was just weird, right? So yeah, I'd say so. Um, I didn't feel like how would you characterize it? Is it a bribe? Is it a quid pro quo? What is a quid corporal? Um, because if you look at something here, there's not an edilial that's here with us today. So he is part of that. He's now a sell-up. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, what I'm saying is, is it did Subinacoval offer a quid pro quo, or I call it maybe a bribe, or something in exchange, like a muffin. Well, something of value, money, a job, and I mean, again, these positions are not, don't belong to the commissioners of the government. These positions belong to the people who pay them them who are the people of the city of
Starting point is 00:08:28 Miami whose tax dollars go into listen you got a billion plus dollar budget every year go and seven cents of every dollar spent goes into one line item in that budget which is salaries and benefits so that's quite a slush fund there. If the commissioners can just offer them in exchange for votes or support, is that what happened with Edilial? We could see on the screen now that Edilial endorsed, you came out and endorsed Damian Cardo,
Starting point is 00:08:59 which was the pact that you had made, your true to your word. The value, the core of the value was supporting Damian. Yes eddie leol who is ripping subin a covo she's corrupt she's unqualified she has no business in this position she has proven that every single day of the last eight months she's been in office she hasn't done a single thing she promised to do she's now lying about her record of fighting corruption. And Ediliel is now supporting her why. Why?
Starting point is 00:09:27 I look at it as Tamini Hall. He took that. He took that route because it's true what you're saying in our campaigns is they were very similar in fighting this corruption. But she was able to convince him to go that route. Why? How? Yeah. to go that route. Why? He's now alienated all his supporters for a mere job either in administration or with her. And that's the problem that you have. What do you know about it? What is he told you about it?
Starting point is 00:09:54 What we have conversations about it and from other people as well as that, hey, I got a look out for me. Oh, okay. And it's all about me. That wasn't the campaign slogan, I don't think. It wasn't. And that's, it's all about the me. It's all about the him, it's all about me. That wasn't the campaign slogan. It wasn't. It was. And that's, it's all about the me.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Right. It's all about the him. And I think the idea was also that he's going to his supporters and saying, listen, you know, I've created this space of me and I will still be able to take care of you within my space, within this administration. So I think the rationale was like, well, it doesn't because ultimately he's not in charge and, you know, so he thinks this is going to give him some clouds. So I was like, listen, I told you she's terrible and unqualified. You're with me. And corrupt and is part of the swamp.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Now listen, nothing goes on in the city without the godfather Joe Corroyo approving it. You can't because if he doesn't want this to happen or wants to block this, it's not happening. So he's gotta go to Art Noriega, the city man. This whole place operates like a Riko, like a racketeering enterprise and like a mafia, as they say. So my question is, Joe is clearly involved in this dirty deal and in this bribe. I would not doubt it that Mr. Joe Carollo is involved in pulling the puppet
Starting point is 00:11:07 strings because for those decisions to be had, Billy, you have to have someone behind the scene, kind of like the Wizard of Oz, right? Who's behind the curtain? Joe Carollo's behind this. It has to be. What do you know or what do you understand, Sabina Kovow or whoever it was, Christian Olverd, her campaign consultant, Art Noriega, the city manager, Vicki Mendes, the city mob lawyer slash the attorney, what do you understand that they offered to Eddie that he is now obviously accepted? Legislative aid.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah. Legislative aid. Correct. So he is going to, how much does that pay? Anywhere from one 10 to 125. So she has offered him a hundred,000 plus dollars a year to buy his support and his integrity and his... Hi.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Welcome to my home. Welcome to my home. David. And it's unfortunate. David and Parto, you are... Thank you. Somebody is running against this cesspool, this swamp, this mafia. In our last kind of 30, 45 seconds here, I want you to make your
Starting point is 00:12:06 case for your vision and what you will do on day one to turn around and see that is clearly sinking into the bay under the weight. Forget to sea level rise and flooding this week, but under the weight of its own corruption and competence. Yeah, listen, I think it starts with the candidate. It starts with one person that's willing to do those right things that immediately sets a contrast. I think it starts with the candidate. It starts with one person that's willing to do those right things that immediately sets a contrast. I think it's important that we have an independent oversight body with the power to actually get involved in these situations.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It's a culture of corruption. That's difficult to change. It starts with one person. And then we need to put all the institutional guardrails, more disclosure, more transparency, more top to bottom. That's the only way to deal with this. And it starts with the candidate. That's one of the reasons I really wanted to run from day one, Iran against corruption.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Before that, I was calling out Joe Corroyo on television for the $63.5 million verdict. And I knew there would be consequences when I was doing that. And they've all materialized, but that's what've all materialized but that's what we need to do That's what we need to do now in the interest of fairness We found out what Eddie Lee Algotten exchange for his support and really it's money in a job which is pretty dirty But you did call James tourism say how can I help? Oh? How hang on how can I help you know you said what do we need here in in our district? So what did he tell you that he needs?
Starting point is 00:13:26 And I don't wanna say what did you promise him for his support? Cause he'd already pledged his support. No, listen, I think he's been very clear about his passions with Bayfront Park Trust with downtown. And so it was kind of natural to say, look, I don't have anything, right? I mean, I'm not in any position.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Obviously, you're taking risks to endorse me. And with that risk comes tremendous consideration of your time and talent to become part of whatever we do together in the future. And to me, that was just common sense. That's what you would want to do. That's good enough for you. 100%. Last question, yes or no. Do you know the pleasure of allegiance? Yes. Let's do it together. You got that lapel. I got it. I'm going to flag lapel. I want to make sure James Torres, thank you for being a good sport. Deamian Pardo, good luck to you next week at the runoff against Sabina Covo. You know what? I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:14:21 We're going to turn now to the dangerous flat flood emergency in Florida. Area's known to flood quickly turning into rivers. The airport, Fort Lauderdale, is still shut down. The tarmac and the runway looking more like a lake out here. Easy weather, trading your Pima for a ding-ing. Underwater, before we know it will be out to sea. She's an easy platter, although we've spent hundreds of millions. Our infrastructure is worse than that of third world country? Wake up, foot will infrastructure
Starting point is 00:15:07 Right for our destruction Never forget Oh, it's pathetic Building high, rise after high rise Even though the hard times come in against us Ooh, Kate's a fan there Bow in and not a change in cause we're created, we're created Get out quick, cause the shoreline is receded
Starting point is 00:15:41 And we're not too swell, oh by your bow She's an easy flutter, we've known about this now for decades. We're underwater, there's no escaping the invading sea. She's an easy flutter, nature don't care about your feelings She's here to usher in the apocalypse for Miami These trucks aren't able to bring fuel to gas stations because port ever blades is literally underwater. No! Oh! How am I supposed to go to Scarlett?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! We had nearly 10 inches of rain, Roy, in like the last couple of days here in Miami. Flooding, downed trees, sinkholes, power outages, school cancellations, public transit disabled, just a day that ends in Y here in the tropics. Yeah, I was in it. My own brother got flipped inside out. I know that. You kayak to work today, Roy?
Starting point is 00:17:05 I took my wife out the dinner and we went to the book fair. Walter Mosley was down here and we got drenched. Yes, the book fair is going on and I saw images of just the outside those kind of like tailgate tents that they set up out there for the book vendors. Just all tossed all over the place.
Starting point is 00:17:21 We had winged us up to 75 miles an hour. Now, peak hurricane season was like a month ago. It's like September 10th-ish. I know it goes, hurricane season goes until the end of this month, November, but like usually things slowed out about. Now, John Morales, friend of the show, hurricane specialist for NBC6,
Starting point is 00:17:41 certified consulting meteorologist at climate data. John, this was not a hurricane, it was not a tropical storm, it was not a name storm. What the hell just happened here in the middle of November in Miami? Well, I'll summarize it by just saying another extreme weather event as we're seeing so many more of in recent years. I mean, you know, well, a lot of the images you just played are from the April, April 2023, mind you, two feet plus a grain that accumulated in Fort Lauderdale. But I mean, we also have a tropical storm,
Starting point is 00:18:18 ADA, not too long ago. I think it was 2021 or 20, dumping two feet of rain as well over parts of Broward County, especially. Broward has been particularly hard hit, but the bottom line. So what happened? Sorry, Roy, Roy lives in Broward. Sorry, dude. Great. So definitively, a non-tropical low. So anybody that thinks that the National Hurricane Center is going to do a post-analysis here and find evidence that this was a tropical storm or hurricane, that's not going to happen. And the reason for that is because we knew coming in that there were two different air masses just like you see at a front. And there was a warm front just to our south with a very moist and tropical airmass down to the south, not necessarily so hot and humid up to the north. Along that boundary of small area of low pressure, technically called a mezzo-low because it's mezzo scale, meaning it's medium scale,
Starting point is 00:19:22 it's relatively small. A mezzo-low formed along that front. And then, here its medium scale, it's relatively small. A mesolow formed along that front. And then, here's where I think there's an influence of some of the weirdness we're seeing lately on the planet, right? The mesolow, the small area of low pressure, traversed the record hot sea surface temperatures that we're seeing across the Atlantic, and many parts of the world, frankly, these days. I mean, we're talking temperatures of the ocean that have, you know, never been observed that are the chances of them happening, you know, without the influence
Starting point is 00:19:58 of climate change are basically you have a better chance of winning the power ball than you do if the sea surface temperatures could happen without climate change. The low traverses those very hot waters and just really picked up steam really strengthened to the point where we had, and I'm going to make a small modification to your wind gust number there, Billy. Gust were generally in the mid mid 50s. 55 or so. That's 75 that you're referring to is the government cut lighthouse there, just offshore Miami Beach. The height of that instrument is like eight stories high and it's a marine environment. So I would discount
Starting point is 00:20:38 that 75 and just go with the 55s that we saw. But despite me making that small correction there, let me tell you, this is probably our biggest wind storm in South Florida since Irma in 2017. That's how I felt. I felt if this is not a tropical storm, then what's a tropical storm? I mean, it didn't feel to us any different, the conditions, the aftermath. And I have to say you'd mentioned the April flooding in Dade and Broward County, which was even more severe than this, but that's spring. Summer is notoriously wet here in the tropics. That's the rainy season. Now we're in hurricane season, late hurricane season, basically entering winter. My question is when the hell is dry season here in Miami? We've got spring, summer, now entering winter
Starting point is 00:21:28 with conditions that are just completely off the charts. Historic as it's being called in the Miami-Herald. We'll be experiencing this week. Well, let me, let me prepare you for the following. This is going to be, well, it's an El Nino winter. An El Nino winter in Florida can be wet and stormy. you winter and El Nino winters in Florida can be wet and storming. And this low pressure area formed where the warmth that I previously discussed came from that low pressure area in the Gulf crossing from east to west towards Florida. I bet we're going to see a lot more of those this coming winter here in South Florida because of the El Nino. It just makes for a very energetic gesturing across those southern latitudes of the US.ino. It just makes for a very energetic gesturing across those southern latitudes of the US.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And I think we're gonna get into some of that. This winter, including elevated chances for traumatic activity. So it's something to look out for. It's unfortunate. But again, these things are just getting off the rails so easily, right? I mean, here, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:22:24 this was a very well-forecast event, unlike the April 1 with 2K2R. We're a lot of, yeah, that one was not expected, right? But this one, you learned to listen, huh? Yeah. Well, different physics, different dynamics, but this one for days, really, as we looked at computer forecast models, they had a bullseye right on South Florida for 10 plus inches of rain.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And then here comes the weather prediction center, which is a branch of NOAA, and they start putting out these excessive rainfall outlooks, which indicated that we were three on a scale of four for the potential for flash flooding. I think the one aspect though that was not forecast by anyone was these tropical storm force winds, right? I mean, which we got from, not from a tropical storm, but from this mezzal low that I've talked about. And I think that was enhanced very much
Starting point is 00:23:16 by those very hot sea surface temperatures, which had we not had that, you know, probably this would have been more of a rain storm and we wouldn't have tens or thousands of people without power because of the wind storm that we got as well. I felt like a bit of a meso soprano to me, but John, this also happened concurrently with peak, king tide. Thanks, right. With peak, king tide sea level rise, which as everybody knows from listening to this program is known as the sunny day flooding.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So you can only imagine what happens when there's king tides along with rainy day flooding, particularly nearly what, 9, 10 inches of rain in just a couple days, how much worse did that make it? Oh, it made it significantly worse. And there is no doubt that it played a huge role. Listen, last night's, or the night of the big flood, which was Wednesday night, actually, we had the highest rainfall accumulations happening just as the high tide was rolling in around 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:24:23 These, this is King Tide season. It is the part of the year when we get the highest, the springiest around 10 p.m. This is King Tide season. It is the part of the year when we get the highest, the springiest tides of the year. And the tides are running a foot to a foot and a half above the Naua predictions. Now, there's a few factors that go into why they're missing the predictions by so much, right? One is the fact that we had an onshore wind flow, so you have water being driven onshore. Two, sea surface temperatures
Starting point is 00:24:50 are so hot that the water expands, it occupies more volume, and therefore it rises and you have sea level rise because of that. There's also evidence that the Gulf Stream is slowing down. This is an effect of climate change as well. If you have the Gulf Stream slowing down, you're not evacuating that water from the Florida current, from the area in our immediate vicinity, and the water just builds up and increments the tide. And then, of course, underlying all that is accelerating sea level rise. And I emphasize the word accelerating
Starting point is 00:25:25 because if you look back at Miami's measurements of types, right, you go back a hundred years and you see that we've increased a foot in a hundred years. You might say, well, all right, we can adapt to that. We can build and fix that if we get another foot. In another 100 years, we're going to be okay, which by the way, we can't because it's limestone underneath. This is not the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:25:52 We can't build bikes around the area and keep everything protected. It doesn't work that way. But on top of that, let me give you the second statistic. So I told you a foot in 100 years, right? How much of that foot has happened of late? Well, it turns out a half a foot just in the last 30 years. So it's accelerating is what's it's not just accelerating no doubt, right? So, you know, it took it took 70 years to get six inches
Starting point is 00:26:21 of sea level rise. Now it's only taken 30 years to get the next six inches of sea level rise. Now it's only taken 30 years to get the next six inches of sea level rise. And this is going to continue to accelerate and we could get another couple of feet or who knows, maybe five or six feet before the end of the century. And you know what we're going to royally be if that happens. Last 60 seconds, King Tide report came out really distressing story at the beginning of of this month about what our future says and one of the things it said was that certain low-lying neighborhoods in the city of Miami and around Miami-Dade County, there is absolutely nothing that we can do. No amount of money or infrastructure improvements or pumps or anything that we can do about them, we're going to have to abandon them entirely. Do you agree with
Starting point is 00:27:08 that and what's the timeframe? I do agree. And the sooner we realize that, the better it's going to be, you know, manage retreat is something that is already being practiced in the Florida keys, which they're worse off by the way than Miami-Dade County in terms of this threat you're talking about. Now we need manage retreat in Miami-Dade County too. I agree with that statement and this is a big, big deal and I'm so glad that you keep harping on it because people need to know. It's a pocketbook threat, first and foremost, lifestyle threat and eventually an existential threat. Manage retreat, that might be the title of my autobiography. Perhaps it'll be the title of my autobiography.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Perhaps it'll be the title of this week's episode of Because Miami, John Morales, Hurricane Specialist for NBC6, Certified Consulting Meteorologist at Climate Data. Thanks so much again for being here. Florida, as we know, is the book banning capital of the United States of America. I should say the free state of Florida is the book banning capital of America. This is sort of the genius of the branding, right? It's like, say the opposite of what it actually is.
Starting point is 00:28:24 There's been a crisis in the public school system here in Florida. Thanks in no small part to the efforts of this legislature over the last really quarter of a century to privatize, subsidize and brutalize. That is the slogan. Joining us now is Tanya Galenianis. She was a librarian for nearly a decade at the Hopa Kalaga high school in Kassimi, Florida, also known as Toho. Hi. Kassimi, Florida is in central Florida, near Disney World. Tanya, thank you for joining us. I say you were a librarian past tense, because the job started out as one thing for you almost 10 years ago and turned into something else. Can you tell us about that transition and when you realize that maybe you are not long for this job
Starting point is 00:29:12 that you loved and hoped to retire in? The job is a dream job. People retire from these jobs. You don't necessarily. 10 years ago, you couldn't find a bot as a librarian. So they were very coveted. And you really had to work hard to get to your position. It was just amazing because you get books in the hands
Starting point is 00:29:32 of kids and just seeing the kids light up when they find that book. And so many times the kids are like, I don't like to read this. You haven't found the right book. So just to have that and to make that connection with the kids, with the teachers, it's a dream job. Well, it was a dream job.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And I want to say about a year and a half ago, a lot of legislation started coming down the pike for banning books. And they didn't call it a book ban. It was like, this book is inappropriate. One thing that I did notice was that librarians and teachers, but mostly librarians because of the books that we had in our media centers were being vilified. We were called rumors, we were called pedophiles.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I've been told that I shouldn't be around kids, all because I said that students should see themselves in books, that my collection, my library collection needs to represent all the kids, not just a little bit of the kids, but all the kids that we service, all of our community, not just a small portion. So at the beginning, you're very upset and you fight and you fight and you fight and you fight and you fight and when you get to the point that it seems like nobody's listening, that's when you have to decide is it worth it, is it worth my health, is it worth not sleeping, is it worth
Starting point is 00:31:02 crying sometimes for hours on end because just's just you feel like you don't like nobody else gets it you're the only one who gets it. So it was just I've probably started thinking about leaving the profession altogether about a year and a half ago. I stuck around for the kids and I stuck it out for the kids. Were you disseminating pornography in the high school media center there in Kissimmee, Florida? No.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, there's no. I can tell you what's certain. There's no pornography in any of the media centers in Osteola County, Orange County, quite honestly. It's, they take certain passages and they read them. They don't look at the book as a whole. They don't look at the book in context. They just take them out of context and they just read the most salacious passages.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And sometimes they even make stuff up because one of the books that was always, has always been very contested and that has always been a trigger point for everybody's like, oh, gender clear, gender queer. We never had gender queer in our media centers. I chose not to carry gender queer because it didn't go with my population. I see it more as a book for college kids, but that's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And as a library professional, that was my job to see what are the books that are the best for my population, for my kids, for my students. And every librarian was able to do that in their own classroom until this year. Tanya, in this very haunting Washington Post story, headline, the librarian who couldn't take it anymore, you talk about how you started to feel like less of a librarian, one who cultivates a love of reading in students, recommends books, checks out books to high school students,
Starting point is 00:32:54 into a sensor. Can you describe what you're in the last year, year and a half, what your daily tasks turned into as a librarian in a public high school in Florida? Definitely. The first thing that I had to do every single morning was go into our focus database, which is where everybody's enrollment is. And I had access to everybody in the school. And I had to make a list, which one of my kids had no access to a library that their parents had that they cannot check out any books, which one of my kids had limited access.
Starting point is 00:33:28 We're talking, we're a school that has 3,000 kids, and I had to make sure that I knew, I had to pull out a report and see which ones did, which ones did not. I had to go over all the collection. And here's the thing, librarians go over their collections all the time, because we're always evaluating our our collection our collections are supposed to be updated anything over 10 years either by a new copy of it or more updated copies so we're always evaluating
Starting point is 00:33:56 our collections but this time I'm evaluating my collection for oh is this going to get me to go to jail am I going to be arrested for this? Which is totally different than what the job should be. And it describes in the article 79 pages printed out of new Florida laws about what students should and should not read and really how you should think about how students should or should not read. That was suddenly the job of a librarian. I mean, not just you, but every librarian in the state
Starting point is 00:34:27 of Florida and a public school. And this is why we have the crisis I was describing earlier of a deficit of thousands and thousands of teachers and librarians and professionals in the public school system who are just absolutely fleeing. Like you are, I have to ask you, before I let you go, you like a lot of women my wife included learned a lot about life from the great Judy Bloom starting with starting with
Starting point is 00:34:52 are you there God it's me Margaret I wonder what Judy is a Florida resident lives in Key West runs the books and bookstore down there I wonder what current Florida censorship laws would make of her when I know to be a very important body of work for young women. I'll be honest with you. One of the books that was in my library before I left was Forever by Judy Bloom. And I know that eventually they're going to come after that book because I've done it before. One of the things that I really hasn't taken it before leaving was if I was in doubt, I would leave it in the media center and I would leave it on the shelves because I stand behind my collection. Every
Starting point is 00:35:36 single book that was purchased by me or by the media specialist prior to me, I stand by that collection. There's nothing there that should not be there. So if I have removed a book, it could be because it was, I'll be honest with you, the quarter of Thorin Roses, the first book, okay, to have in the library. Second book, it's a little racy. I had it in my library for the longest time, and it got to the point that everybody was so nervous about it. And when I say everybody, I'm talking about district. I'm talking about other media specialists that I ended up just taking out the whole series.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Because I was told, he's the first book, but the rest of the series is not appropriate. When I was in high school, I was reading a bunch of stuff that my mom had no clue that I was reading. And it didn't make me into a, you know, deviant person, I'm actually a pretty productive number of society. So I had had it. I had had it. And at that point, I was like, fine, if this is going to create such a ruckus, I'll take it out. And that's another reason that I was like, I can't do this anymore. This
Starting point is 00:36:39 is breaking me. Tonya, my last question, I know this is very emotional. You're leaving a place you spent so many years at. Obviously there's a connection with your coworkers, the teachers, the administrators, certainly the students. What do you tell your students about why you're leaving and what you're going to do now when they ask? I told my students that I was opening up a bookstore because the first time that I told
Starting point is 00:37:00 them that I was leaving, they were very upset because I do create a connection with them. And I fight for them. They know that. They know that I told them that I was leaving, they were very upset because I do create a connection with them. And I fight for them. They know that. They know that I fight for them. And I had a transgender volunteer a couple of years ago when all this started happening. And he was in my office while we were having a meeting. I'd come into the office and he's crying. And I was like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 00:37:18 And he asked me, he said, we're not monsters. And thank you so much for fighting for us. And I wish the whole world knew that we're not monsters. And that was that was why I stuck it as out as long as I did. So when I left, I basically told them that I was leaving because I was opening a bookstore and I was creating a safe space for everyone. And you did.
Starting point is 00:37:44 It had the added benefit of being true. Tanya Galenianis, owner of the White Rose books and more in Kasimi, Florida. So if you're making a trip to Central Florida, going to Disney World, stop by White Rose, books and more, Tanya. Thank you so much for being here and best of luck to you and I hope you- Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy that you're going to continue to cultivate a love of reading and students and adults alike. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:08 We're very excited. We are a week away from a run off in the city of Miami's district one commissioners seat suspended incumbent Alexeas de la Portilla is hoping to win despite the long list of criminal charges he's facing. As for the runoff
Starting point is 00:38:23 between de la Portilla and Miami business, Miguel Ángel Gabela next Tuesday, then Combence Attorney says it will be up to the voters. The citizens will decide who is to be their elected official, and he has continued to generate the goodwill of the citizens because of his excellent leadership as an elected official. LAUGHTER MUSIC When I swear to the day, that attorney, by the way, was Ben Cuny, Roy, who was the lead council defending Joe Corroyo in that federal civil trial, in which they lost and got a $63.5 million judgment against them.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And that, of course, is your boy, Alex Diaz Laportea, who was arraigned this week on 14 crimes. Remember, he was removed from office by Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, just two months ago. The charges include money laundering, unlawful compensation, bribery, criminal conspiracy, official misconduct, campaign finance crimes, and failing to disclose gifts, basically selling his vote and selling out his constituents for about quarter of a million dollars, roughly.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And he is up for reelection on Tuesday. This lawyer is silly as Bulltye. I'm going to go pick one out of science guy over here. Get out of here. Don't never trust a man in a Bulltie, Roy. But that wasn't even the worst news for Alex Diaz-Liportia this week. Incidentally, he did plead not guilty to all 14 of those crimes. And I will tell you, he's probably going to jail.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I'll tell you that. And the worst news though for DLP this week is on our Wheel of Despair. So what are the categories right? All right, we have Deadbeat DLP. Pay for prosecution. Decentis, um, communist, uh, Suarez, um, communist, uh, and the U is back baby. I sense a theme emerging there. Shall we spin the wheel?
Starting point is 00:40:28 The U is back baby. The you as back baby! Turns out a university of Miami student at the Herbert Business School was paying attention in hustling 101 class. According to his LinkedIn profile, he is a serial entrepreneur and venture capital catalyst. Cattle-less, huh? According to federal prosecutors, he also was involved in a three and a half million dollar scheme.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Get this, though. You're going to love this. It's really rather impressive. So what he would do is he would hit up an online retailer, which prosecutors don't identify. It sounds Amazon-esque. You know, lots of different retailers and people selling goods and products. He would order the products, get them, and then hack into employee accounts, and enter fake tracking information that made it appear as if the shipper had returned the items. that made it appear as if the shipper had returned the items. So they could keep the items, stuff like a $600 electric skateboard,
Starting point is 00:41:28 a 43-inch Samsung TV, a $41,000 Rolex president day date watch, and then also get refunded for those as well. Now here's the truly enterprising part. He apparently offered this service for sale to other people, marketed as FTID, fraudulent tracking ID. So he wasn't just doing it for himself to get stuff
Starting point is 00:41:49 and then return it. He was being paid by other people to run this scheme for them allegedly, and according to federal prosecutors, cause nearly 10,000 fraudulent returns, resulting in more than $3.5 million in loss product and sales revenue. University of Miami education. The U.S. Back, baby!
Starting point is 00:42:07 What's next, Roy? Spin the wheel. BELL RINGS DEAD BE-DO-P BELL RINGS Get this. This week, Alex Diaz-Lipertia's family home Was just auctioned off by the bank Yes, it was foreclosed upon an an auction off by the bank, but here's the thing Roy
Starting point is 00:42:31 He got a mortgage in 2005 and then seven years later in 2012 stopped paying the mortgage Deadly welfare queen He just stopped. Well fair queen, Kamonista, is living for free in this house since 2012. And finally, after multiple attempts, the bank foreclosed on the property and sold it for $300,000. Here's the problem. He owes the bank $600,000, which means now the bank can go after his ass for the balance that they lost out on.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Meantime, the man's got no job, he's got an indictment, and now he's got no house because... My Emmy? You already know. Let's roll the dice, let's spin the wheel! The Santa's, um, communist. You know how your boy Big D has been talking tough on China. You know, he's going to stop Chinese businesses and people from buying property in Florida and all this bullshit because we got to stop the Chinese Communist government.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Well it turns out that he's been taken big money from a Florida company, a third of which is owned by a Chinese state-run company. It is a refrigerant company that imports hydrofluoric carbon from China, from Communist China, mind you, in order, you know, for like refrigerators and ACs and cooling systems. And they've been donating big money to Florida Republicans, all of whom are railing against the Chinese
Starting point is 00:44:09 Communists, but also helping them to generate billions of dollars in revenue that gets sent right back to China, including Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Oh, that's BS. No, totally, totally BS. So Florida hypocrisy in full effect. Of course. Right. Do we have any more time for your favorite? No, we don't have any more time. None. Zero. Next. So before we go, I would like to say something. Last week, my dear friend, Diane Rolson died for decades. Diane was a fixture in local politics. She was one of the last of a literally dime breed of true partisans who could work effortlessly and graciously across the
Starting point is 00:44:55 aisle and the ideological spectrum. She did it with warmth and wit and increasing rarity in these polarized times. Diane was a co-founder of Dayd days, an annual event when stakeholders from Miami-Dade travel to Tallahassee during the legislative session to lobby, convince and cajole state lawmakers to send a small piece of the hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue that we send up to them back down here to do some good in our community.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It rarely worked, but Diane always helped us try. When we lost her last week, I owed her a call back. It's difficult to describe what a shitty feeling that is now. And it's also difficult to think how I may ever get over it. Because every time I think about her, I think about how much she meant to me and how I failed to find a few minutes to remind her of that before she was gone. So please, if you have any friends or family who you've played, you know, been playing phone tag with or haven't talked to in a while or haven't had a chance to return that
Starting point is 00:46:01 call, do yourself a favor. Podcast is almost over. Call them right now. See how they're doing, ask them how they're feeling, and tell them that you love them. I can promise you, it's one less regret that you'll have in your life. And now for something totally aggravating. Our Miami moment took place earlier this week
Starting point is 00:46:24 in Miami Beach, Florida following a free Palestine rally in South Beach. And someone got a little carried away. And I guess I decided to tell some Jewish people what she thought of them, where they could go, and how Hitler had unfinished business because Miami co-cans. you

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