The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - #BecauseMiami: New Year, Same Shit

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

2025 is here but the shenanigans continue in South Florida. Billy Corben is back with several new stories that he goes over with comedian Nery Saenz. Plus, investigative journalist Julie K. Brown join...s the show to talk about a mishandled sex trafficking investigation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Starting today, the world's most popular porn website, Pornhub, is blocking users in Florida. They're blaming a new state law
Starting point is 00:00:34 that requires stricter age verification for adult content. The company Pornhub announcing that it made the decision to ban access in Florida because of the state law requiring people to upload their driver's license or even use their face for age verification. Giving your ID card every time you want to visit an adult platform is not the most effective solution for protecting our users. I think they're concerned about them getting hacked and then all that private information getting shared is a real concern.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Like many, Phil James stresses that parents should take safety precautions to prevent kids from accessing porn on their phones or tablets. [♪upbeat music playing on the radio and radio playing on the radio in background. While we are thinking about our friends and family suffering out on the west coast as a result of these just tragic and biblical fires, Florida is suffering here as well. We're going through a bit of a dry spell. Pornhub has pulled out of the state of Florida. This new law came too soon.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Too soon. And it was a hard pullout. It was hard. It was super hard. Super hard. And we are having a wonderful time here with comedian Neary Signs. Whatwashisname.com.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Go to his website, watch his free comedy special on YouTube. Get tickets February 20th, 30th, to Dania Improv with Britney Brave. With Britney Brave, yeah. Who was locked in a closet here. No! We'll talk about that later with Julie K. Brown, the award-winning journalist who exposed
Starting point is 00:02:08 the Jeffrey Epstein story will be joining us with the most chilling, creepy horror movie-like story of the year coming out of Miami Beach, of course. But speaking of coming out of Miami Beach, now here's the thing I will say about Pornhub. There is a, you can go in the back door. I don't know if you know about this. There is a thing called a VPN.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Apparently it stands for voluminous porn now. But a VPN conceals... It's like the JG Wentworth of the... It's the JG Wentworth of porn. It's like, I want my porn and I want it now. It conceals your location so you can, it's kind of a work run. And by the way, interest or demand for VPNs in Florida
Starting point is 00:02:49 have surged 1,150% because people are Googling like mad, like how do I, you know, reach around, if you will, this firewall that we have here. And so, you haven't? And so, and so, Roy! You haven't, you haven't, you haven't contributed one pun, Roy. I know you want to get in on this.
Starting point is 00:03:10 No, I'm just in the button. Yeah, it's kind of a, it's a threesome. Yeah, it's a- Let's double team it. Let's, uh, we're gonna- Yeah, let's stuff it from our sides. Oh, no. Yeah, we'll come at it from both ends, for sure.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So what do you think about this? So, so, so what happens is that you go to Florida, you, you log onto porn, you go to Pornhub.com, Yeah, we'll come at it from both ends, for sure. So what do you think about this? So what happens is that you go to Florida, you log on to porn, you go to Pornhub.com, one of the world's most popular porn websites, and there's like a video there of a porn star going like, sorry. Is that who she is?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Is she a porn star? Yeah, she's like- I didn't recognize her with clothes on. She's not from that end. So you, basically what they're saying is that every time you wanna just access Pornhubub you have to put on your driver's license you have to enter or you have to like you do facial recognition and they're like well people don't want to do that. Yeah I don't want to do that. I wouldn't want to do that. I mean I
Starting point is 00:03:57 gotta be no that's just first of all this isn't my first foray in blocked sites because when I work on cruise ships a lot and there are some cruise lines that when you purchase their wifi package they will block certain sites. So I hear. That you go to. So I hear. Your home pages.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So there are things where you have to do, you know, you have to like, oh, this is Tumblr store thing. Okay, let's go check out Tumblr. But yeah, I would never in my life, like I've never been in a situation where I'm like, yeah, I'll give my license. That's fine. Like I've never been in that situation
Starting point is 00:04:33 where I'm going to give my license for porn. I'm sorry, that's not a thing. Just to see step moms and step daughters, nah, I'm all right. What is this? Did you know that by the way? What? Okay, so I stopped.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Whatever you're about to say, I know nothing about it. I've never heard anything about it. I've never seen anything. Alright, so there was a true story. So I, for some reason, it wasn't a conscious decision, but for some reason, I went a few years without ever watching porn. I don't know why. It wasn't a conscious decision. It just happened that way. You didn't join the priesthood or anything? A few years? Like at the six years old? No, no. I'm talking about like, I talk about like in the internet age,
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm talking about in the internet era, right? From six to 11. Yeah, yeah, from six to 11 I was like, no more. And then, so no, and then I started watching it again, and I don't know, I started watching it again, and then the first time I went to a site, it said, suggestions for you, and I am a sucker for the algorithm,
Starting point is 00:05:22 like whether it's Facebook or whether it's Instagram, Amazon, if they go, hey, we think you'd like this, I'm like, oh, I didn't know that I wanted. To paraphrase Gloria Estefan, the algorithm is gonna get you. It's so good, like it's always like, oh, I didn't know that I needed a wallet slash knife flashlight, but yes, this sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So, and then I clicked on the For You, whatever version of it, and all it was was stepdaughters and stepmothers and stepbrothers and stepsisters, and then I got extremely worried, because I was like, what did I Google to make this machine think that I would be into this? Because this is super creepy, right? Like now it's normal, because I've seen thousands of hours.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But the first time, the first time, the first time was, I mean. By the way, it's not just what you're Googling, your devices are listening to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you could get 20 bucks for that. You could get 20 bucks for that. This net.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's the settlement. That's the settlement? That's the settlement. And they're gonna keep doing it. No, it's Apple's paying like 96 million dollars, whatever it is, huge amount, and then per. It's like a traffic ticket. Yeah, per user, it comes up to up to $20.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So by the way, nobody I think would disagree that kids should not have access to pornography. Obviously you have to limit this access. The question is how do you go about doing that? And Pornhub has a different idea than the state of Florida does. This next story is right out of the onion and it comes from our neighbors to the north. Broward! The Sheriff's Office is here! It was the height of the crack cocaine epidemic for the Broward Sheriff's Office.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And one tactic that made headlines? They decided we're going to manufacture our own crack and have detention deputies pose as drug dealers out on the streets. The drugs were being cooked at the courthouse on the seventh floor. The state Supreme Court ruled in 1993 the practice was outrageous and those arrested should have their records cleared. Now more than 30 years later, state attorney Harold Pryor announcing there could be thousands still on the hook and the state has an obligation to fix it. Rooking and law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:07:18 You're saying how could a department manufacture their own drugs and give it to us to be sold in the street? Funny enough, it didn't put a dent in the crack problem. Huh? Only in the Banana Republic, baby. Only in Miami. So let's get this clear. So in the early 90s, because they stopped this in 93, in the courthouse in Broward County on the seventh floor, the Broward Sheriff's Office was making their own crack cocaine
Starting point is 00:07:42 to go out on the street to sell it and then arrest the people that were buying it. Is that from the seventh floor of the courthouse? Is that where they made it? The seventh floor crew over there. So when they make it, cause you know, were they all naked? Were the women all naked that were cutting it up and they were like in a mask?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like New Jack City? Yeah, like American gangster. Why are they naked? Because so they won't steal nothing. But they're all naked except for their sheriff's badge. The bailiff as well at the door. So let's be clear. This is a crazy era.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Because in 1989, the show Cops first came on the air. And guess where the very first season, the very first episode was? Florida. Broward County with Sheriff Nick Navarro. For those familiar with their Two Live Crew history, they had a song called F*** Martinez, which was a f*** you to not only the governor of Florida,
Starting point is 00:08:31 but one of the lyrics, one of the verses was F*** Navarro, f*** F*** Navarro baby. He was the sheriff in Broward who was like a Looney Tune fascist. He was arresting record store owners for selling Two Live Crew albums, but bringing cameras with him to do it. So basically what they were doing was, this is almost like, I don't even know what it
Starting point is 00:08:52 is. It's like the Truman Show. It's like Running Man. It's like, we need something more exciting this season. We're going to make our own crack and invent crime where there is none for the TV cameras. That's what was happening in the early 90s in Broward. So he's the creation of reality TV. Yes, essentially, but the worst of reality TV.
Starting point is 00:09:11 There's no good reality TV. But turning drug addicted people, turning crackheads into entertainment, and not only turning them into entertainment, making crack and selling it to them and then criminalizing, okay. Bunkers, bunk Okay, Roy, I'm making crack in the in the kitchen. Would you like to buy some and then get arrested for it? But I'm not getting like, what are you talking about? This is crazy. It's crazy. And it turns out that over 30 years later, after the
Starting point is 00:09:37 Florida Supreme Court said, this is crazy, you can't do this, you have to clear all these people's records, their records still were not clear. Some people died already with this shit on their record as convicted felons working against them every time they had to go to that job and check that box because of this bullshit. By the way, a lot of these people are sick people. Like they're addicts. They need help. But instead, Broward County Sheriff's Office was inventing crimes. Bonkers.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Just bonkers. This is some Ronald Reagan, Warren Drugs type situation here. But like the TV element you cannot like dismiss. Like that is an extra level of like twisted. And the same thing happened down here, by the way, when the first 48 started filming with Miami homicide, they started like framing people for crimes
Starting point is 00:10:24 because they wanted to solve the shit in the first 48. 100%. Oh wow. They were violating people's constitutional rights in super shady interrogations to try to elicit confessions from innocent people. They were making false arrests. It was very well documented.
Starting point is 00:10:38 The Miami New Times did a sensational expose on this because they were playing it up for the cameras. That's literally what's happening. Yeah. I'm... Some people would do anything for 10 years Miami New Times did a sensational expose on this because you're playing it up for the cameras. That's literally what's happening. I'm- Some people will do anything for TV credit, man. Look at us. I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:10:53 On December 13th, a peer reviewed study by the University of Miami's Rosenstiel School found that 35 buildings from here in Miami Beach all the way to Sonia Isles Beach were experiencing subsidence. That means the ground that it's on is sinking. The goal of the report was to see how stable Florida's ground on the coastline is and how
Starting point is 00:11:13 high rises like Fianna House, Porsche Design Tower, or the Surf Club Tower and 32 others react over time and introduce the public to the satellite technology they use to gather their results. It found from 2016 to 2023, the sinking range from two to eight centimeters, the most significant was in buildings in Sunny Isles Beach. So Sunny Isles Beach is like three miles north of the Champlain Tower. South, you have the building that tragically collapsed and killed 98 people in Sunny Isles several years
Starting point is 00:11:44 ago. And this study from University of Miami peer reviewed, published in a scientific journal, looked at some of these buildings and said, this so-called subsidence, which is a common phenomenon, buildings are apparently supposed to kind of settle in after they're built, but the leaning tower of Portia, I mean, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:03 You're talking about like buildings where condos sell for nine figures or 10 figures, or like eight figures, you're talking about multimillion dollar, you've been talking about in excess of like, you know that billions of dollars in luxury real estate up and down the coast of Miami-Dade County that are sinking. But that, hold on, so in how much time?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like, is it eight centimeters or three centimeters? So between 2016 and 2023, they use like satellite technology. They use a bunch of technology as much as three inches. And the experts, the scientists have said that's unexpected. It seems to be happening deeper and faster than they would want for it to. I'm trying really hard not to do these jokes.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm trying really hard. You're these jokes. I'm trying really hard. You're saying three inches harder and faster. I'm like, uh-huh. But enough about Pornhub. Yeah, but this is- More like Punhub. But these are like, oh, I don't have your cart. Come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, that was about right. So this is obviously alarming, not only because the value of this real estate, but some of these are kind of, like they're not old buildings. Like some of, they're different ages, but and here's the thing to keep in mind, like in Miami Beach, especially a barrier island, you only have water coming from the front, the back,
Starting point is 00:13:17 the left, the right, above and below. Like, and what's also happening is particularly in Sunny Isles, why this is so bad is that at the turn of the century, Sunny Isles became the condo canyon capital of the world. It is one of the most densely populated high rise condo enclaves in the entire world. And what happens when you do that on the porous limestone and reclaimed wetlands of a barrier island,
Starting point is 00:13:39 like Miami Beach and Sunny Isles and Bell Harbor and Surfside, you know what happens? You're firing pilings into the ground. You're creating seismic events in the construction of these buildings. And what happens? You're shaking the ground. One of the focal points of the investigation
Starting point is 00:13:57 to the Champlain Tower South collapse in Surfside, I said Sunny Isles earlier, it was in Surfside, is that there was a brand new giant development, building being cond being built right next door that was shifting the ground because like these are if you've ever seen construction of a high-rise These are like I said, these are like earthquakes. They're seismic events into the earth. That's already Unstable as it is and now you're rocking the foundations. You've seen these condos like in Sunny Isles, for example They're like 12 feet away from, I'm exaggerating, but like they're right on top of each other, all these buildings.
Starting point is 00:14:29 So you're not impacting just the ground under the new building. You're impacting the earth around all these other buildings. Yeah. Go ahead, do the jokes. No, I was gonna say, this is the biggest rich people problems I've ever seen. Like this is like that,
Starting point is 00:14:42 you know where this is not happening? Street water, you know what I'm saying? Like this is not happening. Alipada? Yeah, Alipada. This isn't happening in Cooper City. It will be happening in Alipada soon enough. They're gonna gentrify the fuck out of Alipada pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But no, you're right. This is like luxury condo kind of problems. But in Florida in general, in Miami specifically, particularly the luxury real estate market, we are immune to logic and sanity and reason. So you would think that news like this, people would be like, well, maybe I'm not gonna spend $3 million cash
Starting point is 00:15:13 of flight capital that I'm laundering from Venezuela in one of these buildings. Nobody seems to give a shit, dude. The prices aren't coming down. The sales are slow. Do you see who our president elected? Nobody, like the whole country, nobody cares about logic. Comorita!
Starting point is 00:15:26 Comorita! This is, nobody cares about logic anymore. Logic and reasoning went out the window. I'm not trying to like get on a soap box here, but it's like this whole, like, just the whole felon as a president, that right there should be enough for B2B to be like, oh, that would never happen.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But it's not only happening, but with fanfare. It's crazy, it's absurd. They're coming all over the place. But enough about Pornhub. Pornhub. Oh my. Is it only Pornhub? That's a real.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Is it only Pornhub? Interestingly, Pornhub says that, in their defense, they say that they have a lot of sort of layers. Wiggle room. Of. They say they have a lot of prophylactic measures in place and that if you can't go to a site as quote legit
Starting point is 00:16:15 and quote as Pornhub, people are gonna go to other sites where they are gonna have workarounds and sort of like more, I guess, like black market sites that are a little bit sketchier than Pornhub. That's their defense. This is such a bad segue into the Julie Brown segment. This is like, we can't, this is such a bad segue. Can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:16:36 We'll talk, can I ask you a question? You as a documentary filmmaker, right? And I'm not, this is not just me blowing smoke up your ass. As like a premier, like- But enough about Pornhub. No, as a and I'm not this is not just me blowing smoke every as as like a premiere like enough about pornhub No as a premiere If you're not watching at home Neri did that himself. He did his own cart as a premier top shelf
Starting point is 00:17:01 Documentary filmmaker is there part of you that when you hear some crazy absurd stories specifically in Florida, because that's your bag is in Florida, is there a part of you that goes oh yeah like do you do that whole thing like rub your hands like yes a new film, another Emmy, like do you do this thing where like you get excited over that because the worst of like I have a friend who's a who's a journalist for a local news station, and I've known her since she was in high school. And whenever she posts on social media,
Starting point is 00:17:29 she posts these horrific stories of crimes that are awful. But I have to like because she's my friend and I feel really bad about liking these stories. I'm like, oh, there's three people murdered. And I'm like, like, and I just feel guilty, but I have to do it to support her. And like, so do you as a filmmaker go, yes, I'm gonna make a I just feel guilty but I have to do it as a porter and like so do you as a filmmaker go? Yes, I'm gonna make a film out of this. Well, I'll say this
Starting point is 00:17:48 I'll say, you know This is more in like the reality show world and then nonfiction filmmaking that we do but like certainly in reality shows Like the worst kept secret is like the worst day your subject is having the better day you are Sir are having but like a lot of those are sort of scripted and make believe anyway. Certainly in our world, I'm reminded of my friend, Jim DeFede, outstanding journalist at CBS Miami Now, who says, listen, Bill, when it comes to elections, whoever wins, we win, because we either get better government or we get better stories.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So there is something to be said for the almost schadenfreude kind of nature that you're talking about. But what I will say in terms of getting excited, I don't really get excited about it. I go, god damn another tragedy. Like, is this a story worth telling? And is it a uniquely kind of, only in the banana Republic, baby, only in Miami.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know, kind of a story. But I will say this, like, you know, one of the things, you know, now that Pornhub is gone, one of the things that gets me off are these Bright Line crash videos. That's what I sit at home. That's what I sit at home watching all day. He was able to fit it in.
Starting point is 00:18:52 He was able to fit it in. Fit it in? But enough about Pornhub. By the way, we still haven't solved the problem of segueing into the humanly sex drive. I was helping you. I was helping you with the whole, like, you know, the worst of crime, the better the documentary.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And then we're going to segue into that. But I was, you know. Segue right into it, hard and fast. Hard and fast. You know, you can't go slow. You can't loosen it up. Happy New Year. By the way, is it too late to say Happy New Year?
Starting point is 00:19:19 I still say Happy New Anus. That's my whole thing. Oh, yeah. You've been doing that all week. All week, baby. All week. Happy. There's an N.Y. There's an whole thing. You've been doing that all week. All week, baby. All week, happy. There's an enye in that.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It's made up, hub. There's an enye in that? If I don't- There is. Listen, if I don't see you, if the first time I see you this year is in July, I'm saying happy new year. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Well, that's an interesting question. So what is the, well, first of all, I would say, certainly this week, it's not too late, because the first day of the year was actually January 6th, was this Monday. So like certainly if I saw you this week, I'm gonna say happy new year, but is there something to be said?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Happy anniversary. Happy, happy, happy anus. Is there something to be said for the first time you see an old friend in January? Yeah. You can say it. What is the cutoff? I don't think there's a cutoff. I don't see you I can say happy new year
Starting point is 00:20:07 But not a stranger like if you have picked up by a driver And over drivers say it's January 15 is like happy new year You'd be like this guy's been in a stupor for like two weeks He's been unconscious and just woke up and pick me up now my uber driver Just give me medical advice because he's a doctor somewhere What is the cutoff? It's like Martin, when can I see you for the first time this year? If we're friends, I'm telling you anytime this year.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Anytime. July. July. That's crazy though. I don't know why. Maybe February 1st in a leap year. Happy New Year. I'm saying it all the time.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I'm saying it just because I know it bothers some people. Some people are like, dude, it's January 24th. I don't give all the time. I'm saying it just because I know it bothers some people. So you're saying, oh, just some people are like, dude, it's January 24th. I don't give a flying rat. What about Martin Luther King Day? Is that a good, like- The first major federal holiday. Right. What is that?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Is that Martin Luther? That'd be Dr. King. Yeah. Dr. King Day. And this year will be the last ever Dr. Martin Luther King Day. We can say that now. Psychist. That's a thing. That's a segue. We can say that now. Such a, that's a thing. That's a segue to.
Starting point is 00:21:08 That's your segue. Is that our segue? Roy, how are you gonna get a segue into murder and kidnapping and underage, you know, that's brutal. Practice. Practice. I like Roy's like, have you listened to this show? I mean, are you?
Starting point is 00:21:24 No, I was listening. Have you listened to this show? I mean, are you? No, I was listening! Have you? Have you heard this before? Stugacchi, I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My wife and my two daughters, they begged me to buy a Peloton. So I bought a Peloton and then I watched that Peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day? I looked at it and so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on that Peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day?
Starting point is 00:21:45 I looked at it and so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on the Peloton because no one else was using it and I paid for it. I mean so why not? Then I realized eventually that they bought it for me. And I gotta tell you, way more challenging than I could have ever imagined. Peloton coaches are walk in the walk. I love the coaches. I do the Grateful Dead one.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's fantastic. They have a sub three-hour marathon runner military trained athletes a Former college basketball player and so many other well-rounded coaches on their team all this experience really shows in their classes Which are never short of challenging especially for me So I jumped on it that first time it was challenging more challenging than I thought then I wanted to beat the bike And so I kept jumping on it and I absolutely love it. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it,
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Starting point is 00:24:52 You met them on Tinder, how old are they? Huh? How old are they? 18, they showed me their IDs, yeah. Okay, what's their name? I don't know, I haven't touched them, but they introduced you to them. Can we wake up?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Can you bring them over here, please? Yeah. I don't know where they could've gone, unless they're hiding in the closet or something. I don't know what they introduced you to them. Can you bring them over here, please? I don't know where they could have gone unless they're hiding in the closet or something. I don't know what they'd be doing there. Yeah, they are. They in there? Yeah. How you doing, sweetie?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Why are you hiding? Alright, what's your name? F****** Francesca. Guys, tell these guys the truth because your guys are in trouble and I... Tell me fair. Go hang out with my co-worker over here. Huh? You need to step out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 You too. I don't know where this is heading. Girls, I tell them the truth. Tell them the story you told me because that's who I know. And don't get me in trouble for any of your bullshit because all I try to do is help you. That was the voice of Dr. Jeffrey Camlett, a Miami Beach doctor, studied at the medical school in Guadalajara, by the way, kind of became one of these sort of concierge doctors that takes cash from high net worth or high profile or powerful people. This is kind of like our documentary screwball about Tony Bosch and the biogenesis steroid scandal with A-Rod. Like he's this weird kind of character in Miami Beach,
Starting point is 00:26:16 got a little bit of a criminal record as a or was a recovering heroin addict apparently. And what you heard there was body cam footage from Miami Beach police officers in April of 2022 who came looking for a runaway 16 and 17 year old girl two girls from I think Broward whose parents were looking for them they located them by their cell phones and the police found them which you just heard in the closet of this guy's then 67-year-old man's Miami Beach condo. It is one of the most chilling, creepy stories I've heard come out of Miami in quite some time,
Starting point is 00:26:57 which is a real achievement. And of course, it was unearthed by none other than Julie K. Brown, the investigative journalist from the Miami Herald, famous for outing the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking story and insuring after a sweetheart 2008 plea deal that he made that he was ultimately brought to justice. Julie is joining us now.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Julie, this story is crazy for all the wrong reasons, but not the least of which is that this feels like a similar case of injustice because one of those two girls on that video that we saw and heard was later found dead in a canal. And nobody really knows how she was killed. And more importantly, all of the charges against this guy have been dropped basically, all the state charges against this guy have been dropped, basically, all
Starting point is 00:27:45 the state charges anyway, and nobody appears to be investigating the murder of this alleged sex trafficking victim, a minor girl. What the hell is going on here, Julie? Well, that's exactly why we decided to look at the case. I thought the same thing. How does this happen? She is a girl who is, you know, accused this man of tying her up in his apartment, having sex with her, giving her drugs, knowing that she was, you know, a potential drug addict.
Starting point is 00:28:16 17 years old, runaway, met her on Tinder, flashed all this cash. He has enough guns in his apartment, he had high powered machine guns in there, he had so much drugs, and here he is, a so-called addiction doctor, meeting young girls on Tinder, allegedly, and allegedly giving them drugs,
Starting point is 00:28:38 and then tying this girl up and having sex with her. And somehow, when the Miami Beach police found her and the other girl, the 16 year old girl in his apartment, they end up not questioning him at all, but handcuffing the two girls and taking them to the police station. Yeah, a 16 and 17 year old girl. Yeah, they barely asked him any questions. How'd you meet him? They said they had IDs. They said they they they didn't they barely asked him any questions.
Starting point is 00:29:05 You know, how'd you meet him? They said they had IDs. They said they were 18. Well, the girls didn't have any IDs. Okay, so he didn't get handcuffed. Nothing. Nothing. They didn't ask him anything except his name and his email address. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Are they going to email him the receipt? And those two teenage girls who mind you their parents were the ones who called for help, they left his apartment in handcuffs. And they just said, good night, sir. Thanks so much for your help. By the way, an apartment full of like six figures in cash, a small arsenal of guns. There's a photo at the Miami Herald that it's just mind boggling. And they're like, very good, sir. You seem rich and white, have a good night. This is the most bonkers, like I've lived in Miami my entire life and even this, like that to me,
Starting point is 00:29:51 the fact that they got his email address, like we're gonna email you the receipt of these girls that we arrested, we're just gonna email, like what's the point of the email? I don't understand, this is so crazy to me. And this guy has a wild criminal record, dating back decades. So not exactly unknown to authorities.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's really curious because what we found out was that he actually, on paper, didn't have a criminal record. But we know he was in the Miami-Dade jail at least three times before. So we weren't able to, to this day, the only reason why we know he has one arrest for cocaine is because the body cam footage shows when he was arrested, the detective is telling him that he's taking him to jail.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And Ken was as well, I've never been to jail before. I don't know what to do. And the detective says, oh, come on, Jeffrey. Don't you remember that cocaine arrest back in the day? That's the only way we know he has a Rest did he do somehow? Lens his criminal record, but you have all these these mugshots of him So but you're saying so he's got mugshots, but no criminal no record of these arrests wait
Starting point is 00:30:58 Did he give different email addresses every time he got arrested? And that's why we can't connect it to because there's you know How you do a yahoo and then you do a different email address every time I don't know that's why we can't connect it to because there's, you know how you do a Yahoo and then you do a different email address every time you get confirmation. I don't know that that's how they book you into jail. I didn't know that you could get away with, ugh, this is so scummy. But somehow this all gets darker.
Starting point is 00:31:16 So you've got this guy who's this weird character who has appeared at events where they talk about him being a professor at University of Miami, never a professor at University of Miami, talking about him getting degrees and working as a doctor at other institutions that never happened. His degree is from Guadalajara, that's where his medical degree is from.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You had this mysterious expungement or disappearance of his past criminal record or at least arrest record. And now you have a dead girl floating in a canal in Little River. Julie, what happened here and where is the state attorney on this? Where is the police department on this? This could be a homicide investigation and all they've done it seems is just drop the charges against this guy because the witness against him, this teenage girl who may have been a minor who was being sex trafficked and possibly a drug addict who was, appears to be, anyway
Starting point is 00:32:09 taken advantage of possibly by a man who claims to be an addictionologist, who claims to help wean people off of drugs, but was now being accused of exploiting minors on drugs. What is happening with this death invest, this mysterious death investigation? Well we really don't know. What we do know is that they haven't questioned her mother. They haven't questioned her father. They haven't questioned the other girl that was her friend. We really don't know of anybody
Starting point is 00:32:39 that they've questioned in this case. They have sort of just wiped their hands of it and said, well, the death has been ruled undetermined. And so they can't figure out that, which means she didn't drown. And let's just say she did take an overdose. She didn't put herself in the river, okay? Right. And I'm sorry, I think it was found
Starting point is 00:33:02 that there was no water in her system, meaning like you know medically she did not drown. Right. She did not drown. Right, so it's not like she OD'd and then fell into the water and then suffocated or drowned to death. We have someone who was clearly,
Starting point is 00:33:17 according to the medical records, dead before she hit the water, and nobody is investigating this, Catherine Fernandez Rundle, who is masqueraded as the hero of sex trafficking victims and exploited minors. And like, where the hell is she on this? Cause her office has a really spotty at best record
Starting point is 00:33:35 about defending, well, I should say, her office themselves exploiting women who may be sex trafficking victims by basically claiming that, well, they can't be trusted or believed, or they're not credible because they might be sex trafficking victims by basically claiming that well they can't be trusted or believed or they're not credible because they might be sex trafficking victims. Jesus. Well that's why I started getting interested in this case because I knew of another case that I had sort of guided some reporters on which was this gymnastics coach in Key Biscayne earlier last year who had been accused of inappropriately
Starting point is 00:34:07 touching some of his students by the way a four-year-old and a seven-year-old and that was taken to Kathleen Fernandez Rundle's so-called human trafficking task force and they allegedly looked at it and said, you know, there's nothing here, gave it back to keep his game police. And then we started investigating and found out, wait a minute, there's other girls that had come forward over the years and they didn't do anything with him either. So here's this prosecutor who boasts about, she's doing all this to help sex trafficking victims, when
Starting point is 00:34:48 in fact we had started seeing cases where they weren't doing anything. And this one especially stood out because the girl, after they arrested Kamlet three months later, the girl was found floating in the river. So whether that's a coincidence or not, we don't know for sure it's murder. But it's certainly suspicious enough. I had a forensic pathologist look at the autopsy of Michael Bodden, and he said it absolutely should be thoroughly investigated.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And to be clear, it really was her death that ended the state prosecution for sex trafficking or underage prostitutes, whatever the other charges were, wound up dropped conveniently as a result of this woman's death because she was in fact not only an alleged victim or accuser but a witness against this camlet. Right, right. And she was going to testify. Her mother was trying to dissuade her because her mother feared, because the girl had told the police that Kamlet said at one point,
Starting point is 00:35:53 you gotta get rid of any pimps that are trying to pimp you out. She wanted to stay with him. And he said, you can come stay with me, but you gotta get rid of any guys that are trying to pimp you out. And if you can't get rid of them, I'll have some guys take care of them. And he had a lot of guns. I mean, really a lot of weapons.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So there was enough to suspect that perhaps her death wasn't, you know, an accident. In order to do your reporting, you rely, especially in the state of Florida, I'm the so-called sunshine laws, which are supposed to be government out in the sunshine, out in the open, very transparent public record laws we have here, which through the years, every legislative session it seems in Tallahassee, that get more and more restrictive. But you had to go to the Miami Beach Police Department, to the Miami Dade Medical Examiner's Office, to the state attorneys, to Miami Dade Corrections,
Starting point is 00:36:43 to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, to the Florida Department of Health. And it seems to me like at every turn, your effort to just have our own government be transparent, you were like thwarted and you had to get lawyers involved. What did it take to report this? And is this, listen, I often call things corruption, but sometimes it's just good old-fashioned incompetence. I'm not really sure what this is. Is this incompetence on the part of our government or is it a cover-up? Well, it's hard to know. I do think in some cases it's a cover-up of incompetence. You know, the police mishandled it obviously. At first, Miami Beach Lease were very cooperative in giving us everything we wanted.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But then when they found out what we were doing, all of a sudden we weren't getting any documents. So, you know, they said, oh, well, you're not gonna get anything more because we've opened an internal affairs investigation. Once they opened an investigation, you can't get any records. So, you know, just as simple
Starting point is 00:37:42 as getting his medical credentials, you would think in any place in America, you would be able to confirm that a doctor has his degree and where he got his degree from. Even the Department of Health, the Florida Department of Health, dragged their feet forever on giving us his medical credentials. We had to get our lawyer finally after months went by. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement, I do not know what happened with that. I've been told by some of our reporters that they have records requests in for over a year
Starting point is 00:38:18 that have not been filled there. I think they are completely shut down and not giving any public records. So it's just insane because, you know, the press is really, you know, we are actually doing this for residents, for citizens, for taxpayers. We're doing a job that you guys don't have the time or the money to do. So we're trying to get information. And so they're not giving us information, but that means they're not giving you information, you know, residents, citizens, people who pay taxes.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And it's just getting worse and worse, I think, in Florida. So where is this Jeffrey Kamlet now? What is the state of his various cases? And like, what is going on with the investigation or any other investigations? Is he still practicing? No. Why? Why? You're looking for a new doctor?
Starting point is 00:39:10 No. You're looking for some oxycodone or some ketamine or what do you need? Does he have ozepic? What's going on? Every five guys try to look for ozepic on the black market. Right. Right. Yeah. So where is this guy, Julie? Well, he's, you know, he's enjoying his life. He's basically retired.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He has a daughter in Colorado. He spends a lot of time in Colorado. Lovely. You know, so he's out and about is the bottom line. A free man. He is, but he is facing narcotics, federal narcotics trafficking charges from all the drugs that they found in his apartment. But that case doesn't look like it's going to last because they use the same search warrant
Starting point is 00:39:55 that they used in the sex trafficking case. And that was among the many problems with Fernandez Rundle's case. The search warrant that they used was faulty. And so the feds are using that same search warrant to make narcotics charges stick. And it looks like they're not going to stick. You understand the facts here, Neri. Like this guy, the then 67-year-old man in 22, was found with a 16 and 17 year old girls runaways whose parents were looking for them in the closet of his Miami Beach apartment.
Starting point is 00:40:31 One of the girls said this guy handcuffed my arms and legs the bed and had sex with me repeatedly. This is a minor Jesus and now he's just chilling like a villain out there in the world and that is like a villain and there in the world. And that is- Literally like a villain. Like literally, bro. Like literally. And closing thoughts here, Julie, you had mentioned, of course, the Kibiskei gymnastics coach story, which again, these incidents dated back over a decade.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Once again, justice delayed as justice denied. The case of former Hialeah police officer, now a federal convicted felon, Jesus Medichol Jr. He also allegedly prayed or was convicted of preying on runaway girls, girls a federal convicted felon, Jesus Medecol Jr. He also allegedly prayed or was convicted of praying on runaway girls, girls who were on back page, girls who might have been addicted to drugs, girls who Kathy Rundle's own assistant state attorney Johnny Hardeman identified as possible sex trafficking victims. But yet in the very same closeout memo clearing this police officer, and alleged serial sex predator said these women can't
Starting point is 00:41:25 be believed because they may be sex trafficking victims and prostitutes basically saying like well they can't be raped because they might be working as prostitutes or they can't be believed because they might be sex trafficking victims what is going on in Katherine Fernandez Rundle's office she has been the top cop for over 30 years since Janet Reno left for the Clinton administration, okay, in what, 92, 93? And what is going on in that office? And I mean, if you were a victim of sex trafficking, if you were a victim of statutory rape, would you recommend young women even come forward in Miami-Dade County? Well, I think that, you know, we looked at her statistics too,
Starting point is 00:42:09 and she really only prosecutes, or I should say it the opposite way, about three quarters of the cases that she handles gets either abandoned, dropped, or non-prosecuted. So she only actually takes to trial a quarter of the cases that she handles and of the quarter that she handles, only half of that number are prosecuted. Her numbers aren't good and they're getting worse every year.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I mean, one problem of course is that she has a high turnover. She pays, she doesn't pay well. But I think a bigger problem, you know, being a journalist, we don't make a whole lot of money, but I'm driven, I'm driven by, you know, the passion. And I'm sure a lot of the young prosecutors that go into her office are driven by the passion to expose people, to bring justice to, you know, those kinds of things, especially when you're a young prosecutor. And when you keep hitting a wall and they don't wanna, they want your client to take a,
Starting point is 00:43:10 you know, they want a plea bargain. You know, they don't wanna take cases to trial. You don't feel like you're doing anything. You're not bringing justice to victims. What you're doing is you're manipulating the criminal justice system. And that's what they're doing is you're manipulating the criminal justice system and that's what they're doing in that office and I think that's why a lot of people are leaving. Let me make this clear that means that over 70% of
Starting point is 00:43:33 arrests in Miami-Dade County never move forward, never get processed. Meaning all the and this isn't just a to be fair a state attorney's office problem this is a police department problem because they're arresting people on possibly insufficient evidence. They're either defective A-forms, arrest forms. So sometimes the prosecutors can't move ahead with cases even if they want to because they're not going to get anywhere because the arrest was not sufficiently processed. And so what you have though is all these police officers off the street, not protecting and
Starting point is 00:44:03 serving the community, but running down to TGK or like, you know, sitting with somebody in the back of their car or transporting them. So again, all of these people are getting arrested. They're getting fingerprinting. They're getting their picture taken. They're getting strip searched. They're going to jail. They're coming out of jail. They might have to go to court. They might not. But none of those cases are getting prosecuted. In certain jurisdictions in Dade County, it's over 80 or 90% of felony arrests are not getting prosecuted by the state attorney. So this is a crazy case of not only injustice, but of waste of taxpayer money and resources.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And of course, when you're taking law enforcement off the street, making the community less safe for everybody, police officers included. Julie K. Brown, thank you so much. Keep up the great work. This Dr. Feelgood story is an incredible piece of journalism and there's a lot of video and artwork. Go to MiamiHerald.com, support local journalism
Starting point is 00:44:53 and investigative journalism. Julie K. Brown, thank you. So glad you brought in the comedian for this story. Yeah. F**king hell, it's like hey, hey funny guy, make this funny. What the f**k is this? Well, Neri, you also were found with teenage runaway girls in your closet, weren't you?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Tied up in your, let's talk to. This is the weirdest thing ever. Like, hey, you're a comedian, I love your comedy. Come in and. You've done this show before. I know, I know. This is the second half of the show. By the way, when I booked her, I forgot
Starting point is 00:45:19 you were gonna be on the show, to be fair. All right. I'm fine with it. I'm just busting balls. Yeah. I know the show, I know the show. Listen, I said to Roy, I said, who can make sex trafficking funny? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And... It was me and Britney Brave. Britney, yes. Yeah. No, she's locked in the closet right now, actually. Oh, fuck no. Oh, no. She's going to be with me in Daniel.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I thought she was 15. Oh, is she? Yeah, she is. She's little. She's very little. Tiny. She used to be a dancer. Yeah, I hang out with her. I thought, oh, is she? Yeah, she is. She's little. She's very little. Tiny. She's very little. She used to be a dancer. Yeah, I hang out with her so I feel tall.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So you feel tall. That was what I was gonna say. Wait. Yeah, I hang out with Britney Brave and David Sampson to feel tall. You know, they talk about this on the main show a lot, but it's deceptively how tall everybody on the main show is.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Like, you don't realize, as a fan of the show, you're watching the show, you don't realize, not you. Mostly sitting down. No, not you. Because everybody's sitting down, but you don't really realize how tall everybody is. I didn't, I had no idea until I would come here. I just met Jeremy and I saw Jeremy,
Starting point is 00:46:15 god damn he's fucking tall. Like I didn't realize he was taller. I get in this chair and I lift it all the way up. And then Dan gets in here and he's like, why am I? He just goes like this, He goes, there we go. This is Dan's seat. And this is my booster chair. I put two phone books on the chair.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Phone books. Nothing on that, nothing on that. You're gonna date yourself? You just dated yourself with phone books, bro. Phone books. That's not a thing anymore. Bell South. They don't have a thing anymore. Ma Bell.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Southern Bell. You gotta put multiple cell phones on. Southern Bell, which just sounds like some antebellum racist shit actually. Southern Bell sounds like a great like southern chicken place. Doesn't that sound like a southern, like hey we're going to Southern Bell. Like oh shit that's gonna work. The combo packets. Have you'll give her had this law there The slaw is out of control and the biscuits. Holy shit Some gravy Biscuits in work get that man barbecue sauce Thank you Roy happy new year, thank you to nary signs What was his name dot com.
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