The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Best of DLS: Merry Thickemas

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

If you thought that last hour was good, wait til you unwrap what's waiting for you under the tree next. It's an hour dedicated entirely to one of the best friends of the show ever, the legendary Alan ...Thicke. You'll hear Alan's first ever appearance on our show and the chemistry that was born instantly, before hearing our interview with him from when the Vancouver Canucks were in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final. Wrap up your Christmas by spending an hour with an icon that we miss oh so dearly. We love you, Alan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:51 Ah, the day after Christmas, Jeremy. Well, that's tomorrow because this is hour two of Christmas Day. I just, you know, once you get to the back half of Christmas, you're already starting to think. Well, you just heard all of that great Christmas stuff. You know what I mean? And so as a result, you were thinking like, oh my God, how could there possibly be more? Sometimes I get ahead of myself. How could there possibly be more?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Let's finish Christmas before we get to the day after Christmas. How about this little Christmas treat? How about this little Christmas treat? Alan Thick, two different interviews with the gone but not forgotten Alan Thick. hello it's these are great interviews uh i think based off of the the tone of the very first one i think it's the first time he was ever on the show tomas hurdle back in 2009 and he he does he does that and then the second interview um begins by talking about the 2011 vancouver canucks going to the stanley cup final so he's there as a hockey expert one of the all-time friends of the show
Starting point is 00:02:57 R-I-P. Yeah, the energy in these interviews, it's spectacular. So R-I-P, the great Alan Thick, and enjoy this little Christmas treat. Hour 2 with R-guy Allen Thick. This is very exciting, Stugats, because this is a man who is among the most famous television sitcom dads ever. But what I wonder and what I think a lot of people don't know, Stugats, I was stunned to learn this. is that he also wrote the theme songs for Facts of Life and Different Strokes. It can be argued, yes, successfully, Alan, that you were more successful as a writer of songs
Starting point is 00:03:44 than you were as an actor, even though you were successful at both? Well, I did write a bunch of theme songs, some of which are still on ringtones today. but I wasn't really a musical artist. I had four or six chords that I kept recycling, and since my son has become such a wonderful artist, I don't call myself a musician anymore. Well, but still, though, Alan, I mean, this is kind of amazing. How much money do you actually make just from the fact that you wrote
Starting point is 00:04:17 two of the most famous television songs ever written? I made enough to have three pre-ups. I'm on my third marriage, a delightful woman who, in fact, I owe my acquaintances with her to the Florida Marlins. I was emceeing a fundraiser for them some years ago. She was a model on the show, so I did what any self-respecting actor would do. I hit on her, and we've been together for 10 years now. As of this Saturday, 10 years. The Marlins?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. Florida Marlins had a big banquet, and they were nice enough to bring me into host it, and the rest was a metrimonial history. Well, how did this happen? Why? I don't even understand. I don't remember this. I've been in South Florida all my life.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't remember you hosting some sort of fundraiser and meeting your wife at a Marlins fundraiser. No, we see. We kept you out of the loop in a lot of that detail, Dan. but it really happened. It was 10 years ago this month. And your son, for those who don't know, Robin Thick, I mean, he is enormously accomplished.
Starting point is 00:05:28 He's pretty terrific and very proud of him. You know, as much fun as it is to do things in your own career, it's even more fun, I think, when your kids do it. Somebody's writing in, it was Jim Leland's wife, Thick is a homewrecker. Now, I think I would have heard of it if that was the case. No, no, this is a young woman never married before, and we plucked her from the runways of Miami and we're doing fine ever since.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You're kind of a pimp. You know, I know the pimp would be procuring the hookups for somebody else. I'm more selfish than that. Right, so you're procuring the hookups for yourself. Where do you rank, Alan? We had this discussion earlier. Where do you think you rank as far as top TV sitcom dads of all time? I placed in the 30s somewhere in a recent TV guide poll, so I've got to go with them.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Do a lot of people call out to you, Mr. Siever, do they say to you lines from the show? I do that. I get a lot of, hey, where's Mike? And did he finish his homework? And hey, Dr. Seaver, and I'm proud of that role. It was, you know, there was some family values that we all try to aspire to. And so, you know, we had seven great seasons, and if that goes on my tombstone, I'm happy with that. When did that become annoying, honestly? No, never, honestly. It doesn't. I said, proud of the role, proud of the show, what it stood for. And it really was the end of a breed, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Back in the early 90s, the Nielsen research people discovered that households now had two television. They could make one show for kids and one for the grownups, and they'd watch separately. We were the last of a breed of the so-called family hour where you had to make shows for everybody to watch together, and that was the Cosby Show, Full House, Family Ties, Who's the Boss, and Us. It's interesting because we were just discussing before you came on. There are no more television dads. It's gone. The breed, it doesn't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Well, they're still around, but they're way more interesting. In fact, my new favorite show is Modern Family, where Sophia Vergara plays my wife, and Ed O'Neill plays me. They're really kind of acting out our story there. Tanya is a hot young Latina, and I'm a middle-aged, and that's being generous, a middle-aged guy married before a blended family. We're getting a big kick out of that show. You seem to be very happy with your marriage. I am I am I've been happy with all of them
Starting point is 00:08:13 Alan Thick with us on 790 here We've got a variety of different things to talk to him about Stucas I had no idea He also wrote the theme songs for Wheel of Fortune and Jokers Wild Do you realize how ever present Alan Thick is in every part of your life No My music is the soundtrack of the dark side of your life Which is the one you like the best
Starting point is 00:08:35 the one that you, the one that you say you're proudest of? Well, Facts of Life had the most clever rhyme scheme, I think. You know, and it was always a bit of a challenge, a bit of an art form to write those jingles for sitcoms because your challenge was to explain the whole show and put it in context and set you up, and you had 24 seconds to do it and had to try to make it reasonably memorable musically, too.
Starting point is 00:09:01 So it was an interesting job, and I liked what we accomplished in the rhyme of that. On different strokes, I sang that theme. That's my voice, probably an octave, and a generation earlier. But that was paid. What happens now is that, you know, the ringtones technology didn't even exist back then, but nowadays, apparently college kids go into a bar, and after hoisting a little beer pong, they bet each other on who can remember
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Starting point is 00:12:14 Don Lebertard. The boy is Captain Slappy. Stugats. Is this Chumbucket? This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Do you sing anything? Do you, I mean, is that too much of making this a piano bar situation. Hey Alan Think, Alan Think, do a dance for us? Like, do you sing? If we were to get you to sing
Starting point is 00:12:38 a lyric from one of your theme songs, what would you go with? It'll cost you, because I get royalty. This could cost you anywhere between 30 cents and a buck. But here goes, stand back. Well, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be wrapped some. Thank you. Thank you. I can hear the walking ovation. He's saying thank you, but he sort of forced us. He sort of strong-armed us into applauding there. We weren't going to applaud, but he started taking boughs. I don't take any chances. I don't do encores. I just, I mean, I try to milk it early on. Would you like to hear the president, the former president of the United States singing Facts of Life?
Starting point is 00:13:23 That would be more than I could dream of. You take the goods. You take the bank. You take them both, and there you have the facts of laugh. The facts of laugh. That's all we got for you. I like it. I wonder what Mr. Bush is doing these days. Alan Thick with us on 790.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I've been remiss here. His new books do gods. How to raise kids who won't hate you, bringing up rock stars and other forms of children. It is in stores now. This is a complicated one. I mean, it's hard to raise kids under any circumstances. It has got to be impossible to raise kids, you know, Robin Thick, going into music, kids from television.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I mean, you've seen with different strokes. Every kid who got fame on different strokes ended up being some kind of maladjusted. I think it was because of the theme song. I think having to hear that every day, probably sent some of them over the edge. You drove them to it. You don't want to talk about your book? You just want to make a joke about different strokes? No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm happy to promote the book. How to Race Kids Who Won't Hate You. It's, first of all, a false premise that can't be done. It was just to get people in the tent, we called it that. But I do believe that, you know, they're going to hate you for whether it's for a minute or a week or a month. But the idea is better to be a little more strict with them now. Make sure your voice resonates in the cacophony of the universe that kids are exposed to nowadays. Better to have them hate you for a week now than hate you for the rest of them.
Starting point is 00:14:56 lives as adults because he didn't do the right thing. How to raise kids who won't hate you, bringing up rock stars and other forms of children. Alan Thick is with us on 790. You remember him as Mr. Jason Seaver, the father on, good Lord, I just drew a blank there. Growing pain. I left you hanging there. I could have. And you gave me no help there.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Because I was thinking about the fact that I got stuck on Seaver because I happened to know having dated Daniel Kuzman, that the severs and the Kuzmans live next to each other, because I guess the guy who did the show is a huge Mets fan, right? That's true, too. The writers, when you're writing a sitcom, you get away with whatever you can, or the writers would go nuts in the writer's room for all the hours they have to spend there. So they did come up with some favorite name. For instance, the name of our high school was Dewey High School.
Starting point is 00:15:51 The name of the team was the Hooters. the Dewey Hooters were the football squad of record, and their proudest moment was when they managed to nickname the other neighbors, a fellow named Stubon, they nicknamed him Boner, and they got that past the censors and went with that for seven years. How'd that happen? How were they able to get Boner past the censors? Well, if you've seen some of the sensors at the network, you'd understand how they would be somehow removed from a contemporary colloquial sexual references how about this one stugats how about this one the guy has written theme songs for wheel of fortune joker's wild he's written theme songs
Starting point is 00:16:35 for facts of life for different strokes he's an immensely famous sitcom dad and you know he's got a son who's an accomplished who's an accomplished musician how about this one the only thing he's failed that was he wanted to be a sports guy he failed i did i did i It did. I played a little college football. I was a receiver and a punter. My career ended when I was in mid-air punting one day and got hit high and low from either side, and that was the end of my cartilage. So I became the football reporter from my university paper and wanted to expand that into a career covering the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the Canadian Football League. never made it that far. So if I gave you, as a sports fan, if I gave you the ability to do something in sports right now, as Alan Thick, the job you would choose is what? I would have something to do with hockey. I'd probably be the color commentator for the home games of the L.A. Kings. That's what you go with, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Says somebody else on the road, but I'd be happy to do a little color comedy. I have some other Florida hockey history. I have some other Florida hockey history. I sang the anthem at the very first ever Tampa Bay Lightning Home game. Did you steal anybody's woman there, too, and marry her? I was already womaned up at the time. Alan Thick with us on 790. We've got to get this guy on more often here. Because you're Canadian, because you love hockey,
Starting point is 00:18:11 we air the Florida Panthers games on our station, and our play-by-play announcer actually tries to spice up goal calls by throwing in random movie lines, music lines, TV lines for our listeners. I get the impression from Alan Thick's sense of humor that he might actually really enjoy this. It might be something that he would do. Let's play a goal call for Alan Thick here. Stillman shot, rebound and shoot they score. Get in my belly.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Ballard ties it up here. That's from Austin Powers. Let's play one more for Alan Thick. One more. Leopold, no look, pass right out in front. and he goes off of right back and he scores it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood totally totally random i like that all you everyone the bud of canadian complete by jean bellivaut assiste morris richard and dog harvey
Starting point is 00:19:07 le tom-de-bue 5.23 seconds wow what a flourish there you really got into that how did you fail at this Well, I've been a lifelong hockey groupie, and I paid the price for it. A couple of years ago, I had five teeth knocked out, and I'm still getting them implanted. As we speak, I have another two months to go. They couldn't do them all at once, so they stretch them out for you. What's your favorite sports television show? Sports television show, well, I never miss, pardon the interruption, and around the horn.
Starting point is 00:19:46 That's my appointment television every day. God, how lame are you. Just throwing that up there to try and get me a compliment. Alan Thick, thank you for being on with us. We very much appreciate it. Hopefully we'll get you around here more often. The name of the book, How to Raise Kids Who Won't Hate You, Bringing Up Rockstars and Other Forms of Children. It was a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Thanks, Dan. My pleasure. We'll talk again sometime. I hope so. Alan Thick, be careful. He'll steal your women. Those jingle bells remind me that holiday basketball is here. And when stars like Kobe White,
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Starting point is 00:21:40 Limited time offer. Don Lebertard. There is no question. Dan Lebertart show. included. Anybody else that this guy is the best player on the planet. Whether he wins the Stanley Cup
Starting point is 00:21:53 or the Consmite this year, there is no question about it. Stugats. Overrated, wait. Yeah, overrated. What's going on? Dan Lovetard. How you doing? Are you living in an all altered world or my means? Oh, my goodness. This is the Dan Levitar show
Starting point is 00:22:07 with the Stugats. Alan Thick joins us now, you know, one of the great sitcom fathers of all time, father in Growing Pain's friend of the show. Now, if you were talking to the Vancouver rioters, Alan, the way that you would talk to Kurt Cameron as a parental figure, you would tell Canuck fans what? Well, I think that if their team was as tough and aggressive as the the fans were in the streets, they would have had a different result. And I would also, I would certainly chastise the thugs and hooligans who gave Vancouver
Starting point is 00:22:57 a black eye by running rampant in the streets afterwards. But I would like to point out in celebration of the fans who were in the arena, if you notice they continued to cheer and recognize the excellence of the Boston Bruins and Tim Thomas, after the game was over, good sportsmanship from fans who know their hockey and appreciate good hockey, and in turn, the Canucks, losers that they were, raised their sticks and in that circle of celebration and appreciation in tribute to their fans. And then we have the traditional handshake between the teams at the end. We always like to see that.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Canadians and hockey fans are always proud of that tradition. And I wish that we would have seen some of that in basketball, in Miami last week, as opposed to the total silence of the fans, the quick departure of the heat, and no real sense of celebration, closure, and finality to the NBA playoffs until Deshaun Stevenson got arrested. I was going to criticize you for being a sports gas bag until right at the end you came in with a little humor. I understand that they're calling Luongo Lebrongo. Well, he certainly more than disappeared.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And, you know, he had not a horrible game yesterday, but very shaky for the three that they lost. To be outscored by the Bruins, 23 to 8, when you've got. But, you know, the regular season scoring leaders and the big men in nets like that is a pretty embarrassing way to go out. As you know, the Swedes historically were regarded as not being very tough in the final stages of any playoff. They used to say that the Swede could go into the corner with an egg in his pocket and come out with an unbroken. I don't know that that's true anymore, and the Swedes certainly equipped themselves well in international hockey. But they got out muscle. They certainly Boston beat them up pretty well.
Starting point is 00:25:20 You know, I go back to the old days of Orr and Esposito and more recently Cam Neely, real good pals with all those guys, used to get to practice with them. And it's been a long time since Boston could celebrate. So happy for all of those guys. Slow down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You used to practice with Cam Neely? Not Neely, but I played golf with Cam,
Starting point is 00:25:44 but I used to practice with Orenespo, including in the old Boston Garden, and when they would come to L.A., I would be invited down, and it was kind of embarrassing. I would, you know, they do the slap shot drill from the blue line, and I remember on one occasion,
Starting point is 00:25:59 Jerry Cheever's actually taking off his goalie gloves and catching my slap shot with his bare hands. pretty much speaks for my the Bruins were tough they were known as the big bad Bruins I was never a fighter I'm in midget hockey I got in one fight and I got so scared
Starting point is 00:26:21 I wet the other guy's pants so nobody bothered me after that wait a minute, wait a minute Alan like in terms of career highlights you're a huge hockey fan I mean where the perks that fame gave you where does that rank Where does it rank getting to practice with hockey legends?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Very, very high. You know, through no fault of my own, as no reflection of my hockey skills, I have gotten to play on the same line with Howe and Gretzky and at the 1988 All-Star game in St. Louis, I actually suited up and dressed for the pre-game warm-ups. I have had lots of thrills through my affection for hockey. I go, yeah, I'm a groupie. I'm a hockey groupie.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I, it's the most fun I ever have with naked guys was playing hockey and being in the locker room. Your funniest Cam Neely, please. You've got to have gotten like crazy drunk with Cam Neely, right? No, no, no, not with Cam. I do remember, I've been around on a few occasions with some guys, and you wonder if they would ever be heard from again after the night that we had. But, no, no, nothing scandalous with Cam. I want to hear, go ahead, Alan Thick with us on 790 the ticket.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I want to hear you rank celebrity perks here, because when you're talking about it, as big a hockey fan as you are, when you're saying I got to practice, I mean, practice with Bobby Orr. Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, where, I want, what celebrity perk do you put above that? Give me the one you put above that. That's right up there. Most recently, meaning just this past February, I played in Gretzky's fantasy camp, which I'd do every year,
Starting point is 00:28:12 and had the win. It was on the winning team. And, you know, Wayne played with us for a while, as he did with the other teams. But to win something with Gretzky on the ice, that was a big deal. I had my nose broken while I was on the ice with Gordy Howe and Stan McKita. That's pretty good. Wow. And, you know, I've paid my dues.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I've lost teeth and lots of scars, mainly because I'm no good. It's a funny visual. I used to be a better puck ducker, and that slowed down. I get hit once in a while. Did you ever hit any of them? No, not that they would notice, I think. I've been laughed off. I remember big crunches from Terry O'Reilly, for instance, back in the
Starting point is 00:29:03 big bad Bruins days. And I played with the flyers. You know, I put together the very first celebrity hockey team in L.A., and that was with my old pal Alex Trebek many years ago. And we played exhibition game. Wait a minute. We played fundraisers all around the country, and now it's a big deal. And, you know, we actually make money doing it. There are many more celebrities playing hockey nowadays. Tim Robbins, Dennis Leary, or in many of the events that we play on the East Coast. Wait a minute. Alex Trebek, he doesn't play, does he?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Well, he did. You know, this was back in the 1920s, but we came, I brought Alex Trebek to this country. I was producing game shows for NBC. Alex and I were pals, and we put together that first team. Michael J. Fox played a lot with us back in those days. So, yeah, we've paid our dues, and I was, in fact, the last great Canadian riot, other than people waiting for Justin Bieber tickets, was in 93, and that was in Montreal,
Starting point is 00:30:19 when the Kings played, the only time the Kings ever made it to the finals, and Montreal won the Stanley Cup that year, and I was there for the last game, and we went and got in the limo. I was with Bruce McNaul, the indicted owner. Of course you were. From the felons division of the NHL. And we got in the limo afterwards, and the riots started. And guys were jumping on the hood of our car.
Starting point is 00:30:45 There was a life-threatening your spirit. They're bouncing the car up and these were the winners. So this is the last time a Canadian team won. So you can imagine how they felt in Vancouver when they lost. Well, help us out with something. Were you more embarrassed for the city, for the team, for country, or for sport last night? It was embarrassing for the city and to some extent for the country. You know, it's a great city, and they didn't behave like this when they won the national,
Starting point is 00:31:13 or the international event at the Olympics. So you wonder why they were such bad sports. But, you know, again, the fans inside the arena, the true hockey fans acquitted themselves very nicely. the thugs outside, you know, it was looking like a soccer crowd for a minute. You are a huge sports fan. Were you rooting for or against LeBron James? How did you feel about everything that happened with LeBron James? You know, I had mixed feelings.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I think that the press is incredibly sensitive when they get all excited about, you know, Dway and LeBron walking through the hallway, mimicking Novitsky's cough. you know, after game five or six and about the things that LeBron said, the final press conference after the final game, like, come on, get over it, have a little sense of humor, lighten up. The guys certainly paid some dues and got well remunerated in return, of course. But I was kind of pulling for them up until the finals. I had to go with my demographic in the finals.
Starting point is 00:32:26 which is pulling for all the old guys like Jason Kidd who won't get another shot, possibly, even though he said he's going to play for a couple more years. But I had to pull for the older guys in the end, also knowing that LeBron and the guys are, those guys are going to be around for years to come, and they'll win their share. Alan, always enjoyed talking to you. Thank you for regaling us with just amazing hockey stories, and then you stuck Alex Trebek in there, and then Michael J. Fox, and then Bruce McNaul is there, and you're in a little.
Starting point is 00:32:56 limo and you're in a riot. Just tremendous. Like, you, what's the story Alan Thick whips out? Not sports-related. Just cocktail party. You're married to a hottie now. You met her here in Miami.
Starting point is 00:33:10 The cocktail party story that Alan Thick is telling in order to impress everyone in the crowd is what? Because you just told ten of them. Well, by the way, that's my limit for a day is ten. I don't know if I have another one.
Starting point is 00:33:26 and you'd have to invite me back all right we'll do that i will i i i will i'll just go out by apologizing for uh for the canadian uh thugs outside in in vancouver and uh we were sorry to see all that beer wasted um you know where the the land of moose head where where moose head is more than a beer it's a way of life you remember that that's how we feel in canada where we can stand on cars and actually see Sarah Palin's house from downtown Vancouver. We like our hockey, we like that city, and it was unfortunate that that was the picture we had to leave you with. See you later, Thick.
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