The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Big Suey: Some Guy Named Warde

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Is there a better name for the head of the College Football Playoff committee than Warde? Joe Burrow bought a Batmobile and has thought about pulling up to a game dressed as Batman, but Greg Cote is not very happy about it. Can Joe Burrow make losing cool? Mike Ryan is wearing slacks, and Greg Cote doesn't want to even get started on the Ford Pinto. What was Greg Cote's fourth car? Plus, Smetty and Mike Ryan want Greg to read their new book 50 Shades Of Greg, but, after reading a passage, Greg is refusing to in order to uphold his journalistic integrity. Also, we continue our discussion about the College Football Playoff and revisit Mike Ryan's takes from yesterday including that Syracuse is just as good as Alabama and South Carolina should be in the Playoff. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. All right, I want to apologize to the audience, okay? Because every once in a while, we forget who we are around here,

and we become a sports radio show arguing about sports, and we forget that Greg Cody has gotten here, and his hair is crazy, and he came in traffic. He didn't have any time for makeup. And Greg Cody's got a microphone, and he's got a thermos, and he's ready to talk. And he hasn't been allowed to talk because there's been a microphone and he's got a thermos and he's ready to talk. And he hasn't been allowed to talk because there's been a sports argument breaking out

about college football, which is exactly what college football wants. It's a wonderful thing to have around your sport, much better than flag planting arguments that we've been having for two days. But once you get to telling me some guy named Ward, Ward Manual, the University of Michigan AD. Perfect name.

Yeah, perfect, just perfect. Like if I tell you, having seen the evolution of college football into the seismic thing that it is today, get me please that video of the left tackle for Colorado showing off a Maybach because he protects the blind side of Shador Sanders because I really am just riveted, Stugatz, riveted by the professionalization of this sport,

where now everybody realizes what once upon a time was the secret domain, and Cody will laugh at this, of these people in bull committees who were the owner of your local car dealership, who would put on a loud jacket and come to our press box to eat hot dogs and god damn it they ran the sport. They knew oh my god I can get Tostitos to just do an info merch show. Put the name on the fiesta bowl and I'm going to strip clubs and

steak houses all over America. They ran the sport. Now everybody sees that they had all the money. The guys with the loud jackets who would show up in your press box and be big shots for a weekend look I'm walking into sports I'm gonna have some of your free media cookies and I'm gonna sit in the back row and I'm gonna watch the game and you're gonna think I'm an important person they ran the sport for 30 years they became commissioners they became people named ward and now now they've got all the money play Play this video for me of Shador Sanders but the players and Deion Sanders realize oh this is the second

most popular sport in America and now the left tackle for Colorado I can't even imagine what Texas and Ohio State are doing but the left tackle for Colorado has a Maybach. Can you guys get me some information please on the Maybach and how much it costs? I know Joe Burrow bought a three million dollar Batmobile, but I'd like to know more. Yeah, Joe Burrow just bought one of the 10 Christopher Nolan cars. There were only 10 made. It's not street legal, right? But it is. It can't be. Who's manufacturing this car? This was a revelation from AFC North Hard Knox last night on HBO Max. Oh my God. What an episode.

I'm seeing that the Maybach runs from anywhere from 200K to 240K. Yeah, reasonable. Put it on the poll please at Levitard show, Juju is 200 to 240K reasonable to pay for a car, yes or no? You gotta do that on a three year lease, right? Well, you know, what is that vehicle you just showed?

It's the Batmobile. How do you not recognize the Batmobile? Because it looks like a car that's just been in a horrific traffic accident. I agree with Greg, yes. That does not look like the original Batmobile. I mean... It's the modern one. If you've seen any of the recent movies, it's the current one.

Awful. It's ugly. Just terrible. You think the Batmobile is terrible? What I just saw, it looks like a car that's just been through a wreck. My dad's picturing the 90s one, where it's like,

The original one. It kinda looks like a Corvette, which my dad loves Corvettes. Is that like a Coupe de Ville? What is the original Batmobile? It's got the thingies on the back, right? Well, the original Batmobile was sleek. It had sleek lines.

This is just a chaos on wheels. Okay, let's play Joe Burrow here, the sound of him. This is a $3 million automobile. I'd like to get your review of Hard Knocks, but here's Joe Burrow telling his teammates, like, that's a pretty cool thing, right? Joe Burrow's already pretty cool. To be able to afford and to actually buy

one of only 10 Christopher Nolan fans if you're a Batman fan let's hear Joe Burrough did you get it yet though? I don't get it for like a year but I bought it gonna be crazy gonna be crazy you gotta go to the Ventures Batman where he had the **** he has. Eye thing on. I think I gotta go all in and go for like the expensive batsuit. The suit and all?

That's gonna be funny as hell. So Harvard? I ain't gonna lie. That's gonna be hilarious. How about that put a cape on, bro? What if I wore it to every game? I just wore the full batsuit and batmobile to every game. If I go crazy on Halloween I would know.

What? I mean, yeah. How about that for the K-Bomb, bro? What if I wore it to every game? I just wore a full bat suit and batmobile to every game. If I go crazy on Halloween, I would know. What? I mean, yeah. Then I, you know. I would be like, yeah, what'd I been to? Yeah. 507 touchdowns, I'd wear it again. I'd wear it again.

We're being told that it's not street legal, though. He just said in there that he might drive it to the game in a bat suit. So I don't know if he's able to do that. That would be fun. Are you a corp? I mean he can do it illegally. He's Joe burrow Right you think Joe broke Kobe Bryant used to park wherever he wanted to in Los Angeles Like he just park and poor people knew it was Kobe's car He would just he probably said Kobe on it all license plate all the spots like Kobe could do that all over Los Angeles Let's let's discuss this for a second

At LeBattard show these are some of the questions. Does Joe Burrow become cooler when he buys the Batmobile? Because Greg Cody's saying it looks like a bad car. I'm like, that's a gangster move he just made. Like the idea, it is so hard these days as an athlete, if you wanna show all the other athletes that you have more style than them with your automobile, like it's pretty hard to do. And he just landed one of 10 cars.

And so I thought it made him cooler, but I'd like to get on a guest who can tell me more about this car. I'd like Sullivan to chase someone down because I'd like to know what this purchase is, if it's 30 times more than a Maybach, because there can't be many people in the world who are buying these cars, but I wanna know who they are. I feel like this is just a Joe Burrow is cool thing. Like if Russell Wilson does this, aren't we like laughing at it a little bit?

We mock him, yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Joe Burrow can't do anything that's not cool. I think that's a bad look for Joe Burrow. A bad look? That's a bad look for Joe Burrow, and it falls under the category less car buying, more yeah when you're the playing so well but focus on W's day when you're the quarterback there are two teams in the NFL that have

had monstrously disappointing seasons tell San Francisco and the Batmobile owners team and it's just a bad look to be on hard knocks talking about your car when your team is is in the tank I just think it's a bad look to be on hard knocks talking about your car when your team is in the tank. I just think it's a bad look. I mean, I'm trying to think through like a Batman-Joe Burrow analogy here because Batman, like he fights crime, he tries to do all this good,

but like the, it doesn't, it's a drop in the bucket, right? Like the bad stuff keeps happening. Joe Burrow, he throws all these touchdowns, but the defense just keeps letting the other team score over and over again And I mean there are some similarities there in the futility of it all but you can't drive away to Greg's point from the stadium After another loss in that car Can you though as the league leader in passing yards and passing touchdowns that would be for nine winning wait a minute wait

Wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute put it it on the poll, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Can Joe Burrow make even losing cool? Because you will not tell me, you will not tell me, okay, that if Joe Burrow drives out of that stadium, as he will, illegally, in his street illegal car through a city he owns, through a city where he is the biggest star in the town now and the biggest star in I don't know how long,

maybe the biggest star Cincinnati has ever had outside of Pete Rose. Like Pete Rose was a fan of Joe Burroughs. You will not tell me that that guy will leave a stadium leading the league in passing yards and touchdowns and that street cops to gots will stop him on the way out of the gates in his batmobile and say you sir are not cool you can't leave this way you don't have style your team has four wins i would say you sir are four and ten yes i mean he would look

job or oh if his team were ten and two he would be the mvp favorite right now yes based on statistics but they're not okay the batmobile based on the season is having the batmobile should should be back firing and have to flat tires it's just a bad look for him it'd be because you want to go you know really your five and what what are you your four and eight whatever the right in the last three games he's thrown a for more than a thousand yards ten touchdowns in one interception in the last three games and they're oh and three

Yeah, the weird thing is we judge football by wins and losses not all of us do it that way Maybe we should just put them in the playoff because I think we should yes put it on the pole Put it on the pole juju at LeBataard show should Joe Burrow by himself be the 12th team in the playoff? Because I take it, in his Batmobile, just have Joe Burrow wandering around smoking cigars. Greg, so let's say Jamar Chase has the Batmobile. There's only so much he can do as a wide receiver. Is this just a thing for Joe Burrow,

or can a really good wide receiver on a losing team drive the Batmobile? Are they allowed to do that look I think it's a bad look to be on hard knocks in the middle of the season they're having talking about a three million dollar car purchase you know maybe I'm the fact that you're thinking about that while you're you know going through a four and eight season and have lost right straight yes I want to give you guys some of the history here because i know greg cody knows it uh... this franchise has been eight sheet

and national laughing stock for decades before joe burrow got there marvin lewis was retained simply because he was spectacularly mediocre for a consistent time this organization by all other nfl standards is laughed at by the other organizations that was enough to sink carson palmer at the end he's like get me out of here i'm not good enough to lift this from the mock

job rose out here batmobile's leading the league in passing and touchdowns and he's losing but they're not sinking him is so hot i mean they are not they are not mean, they are not killing any of his cool. You see the mask he put on there? Yeah, it's crazy. He looks big. You can put anything on.

Dan, all we're saying is at four and eight, you show up, nice pair of slacks and a Ford Pinto, and that's it. That's what you do. Thank you. You're four and eight. I mean, I don't care how cool you are. Put it on the poll, please, Juju.

At four and eight, do you show up to the stadium in slacks and a Ford Pinto? Big day for slacks on the pole please, Juju. At four and eight, do you show up to the stadium in slacks and a Ford Pinto? Big day for slacks on the show. They were vindicated though, right? They weren't actually- The slacks? No, Ford Pintos. They were the cars that everyone thought

were spontaneously combusting in the 90s. I used to drive a Ford Pinto. It's a beautiful brown one. Yeah, one of my earliest cars. I'm a Pinto fan. Don't get me started. Did it have a name? Do you name your cars?

I do not name my cars, no. You never named your car? Never named my car. But he does do the thing where when he sees another of his cars out there, he like waves. Yeah, we have a wave. You're saying hi. Yeah, to an old friend.

I'm always ready to wave because I never want to be the first one to wave, but I'm always ready if the other guy waves You know, I believe that's your whole approach to friendship. You have never made a phone call to me in your life So when you say don't get me started though, I'm gonna call your bluff on this I think you're bluffing I'm gonna get you started. Tell me everything please. I want to get you started on the Ford Pinto your Ford Pinto It was my second car Okay, my first car was a souped-up Buick Skylark with big fat racing tires I had an aluminum block motor and I ran it through a big giant puddle

And ruin the motor my second car was a brown Ford Pinto Which at the time just seemed like I was living large. How old were you? I was probably college age. Ah, so, nice. Shag and wagon. I mean, a big back seat, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, the Ford Pinto.

And my third- You got that part. Yeah, my third car was an orange Opel station wagon with a mountain scene in the background in the rear window yeah memories that sounds gross what was your fourth car hmm the white van I had a couple of Honda's yeah I had a Honda streak I had two Honda days by the way I own two Honda's I have Accord. And what's the lesser one than the Accord? The Civic. The Civic. I owned a Civic. So that was my first car.

I upgraded to an Accord. And then I think I got into Corvetteville after that. I'm not sure. What about the white van? Oh yeah! The white van that my mother-in-law accused me of stealing. To buy. She had what? She had all time. Yeah. You know, my mother-in-law at that time, you know, she's going through some personal issues. She had, you know my mother-in-law at that time. You know she's going through some personal issues she had you know a little bit of dementia there and

One of the things she did was in that the throws of that was accused me of Stealing money from her and she hated you at the end well And I tried to explain to her as much as you explained to somebody in that condition if I'm stealing money from you It ain't to buy a white Dodge Caravan. Trust me, I'm gonna be buying a Batmobile or a Maybach. Not a white Caravan. Anyway, car talk. That kind of thing.

The only thing on fire in your pinto was your loins, right? Yes, exactly. Well put. I would never say that. Well put, Mike. No, he was talking to me. No, I was talking to Mike about the game.

Greg's loins were on fire. Well, so were Mike's. Yes, yes. So were Mike's. So were Poppy's. Can we play another one of those? Do we have more of that? Do we have, I want some more 50 Shades of Grey,

and I do just want for my for my own information because legit confused and don't have any answers the three points that Alabama put up against Oklahoma can you look at the game logs for me please because I just I don't have recollection of anybody doing anything but running up and down the field on Oklahoma. So please give me some game logs on the point totals that Oklahoma has allowed to others and then someone explain to me what they did in that game that made Alabama score only three points in it 11 days ago and nobody cares and nobody

remembers. Alabama's offense has been neutralized. Like when a defense is on that offense's ass it looks like ass. They're limited.. Like when a defense is on that offense's ass, it looks like ass. They're limited. Just like when a team is on Miami's defense and knows exactly what to do, attack them in space, they look like ass. But Oklahoma's defense, what I'm asking you is give me some point totals of what other teams have scored against Oklahoma. Mississippi scored 26 against Oklahoma. Tennessee scored 25 against Oklahoma. Temple scored three. If you're looking for SEC teams,

they gave up 21 was the least. Oklahoma's problem is their head coach and their offense. Their head coach, Brad Venables, like Venables' defense, that's a famous thing throughout college football. Like his defense, if you bring him in, he's gonna have a sound defense. Their issues were all along that offense

and the fact that he runs red all the time. it was turnovers in the second half that's what it was every time it looked like Alabama was okay they're gonna score a touchdown here turnover it was interception interception I think there was a pick six in there yeah it's exactly how they beat Auburn very controversial call in the fourth quarter that went against Alabama I mean it was just a bad offensive game for Alabama but I'm with Mike. I think Oklahoma's defense is really good. I think that one of the reasons that they've been,

they've struggled so much is that their offense has been so bad at maintaining possession that their defense has just been on the field a lot this season. It's been a really, really tough season for Oklahoma offensively. And Alabama was able, not able to contain Oklahoma's offense which is an insane thing to say which also contributed to it but really Alabama's offense had a really

bad game and I'm a big fan of the offensive coordinator that they brought in from Washington state Arbuckle and if the quarterback follows that quarterback I don't not many people watch Washington state this year I think they were exclusively on the CW, that offense was really, really fun. There wasn't much of a drop off in terms of quarterback play and offensive output from Cam Ward. So they might fix it on the offensive side next year, but ultimately I think that hiring was a disaster and Venables and they're going to fire him eventually. More poppy please. And now poppy reads a passage fromty Shades of Grey, page 78.

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Dan in 17 years with Nick Saban, Alabama never scored three or fewer points. I'm sorry Stugots, I'm disoriented. Nobody warned me that anybody was doing this today. Mike has had a lot of fun with that oral history. Oral history? And there is smutty smutty. Howdy folks, it's Mike. And guess what?

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see dkng.co.slash.bball. Don Lebertard. What do I got here? I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out. That's shocking! Stugatz! Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like 3 years old.

Right next to the condom! That's a subtle reminder. Never forget. This is the Dunlavatar Show with the Stugatz! with this tool that's i have enjoyed the oral history but uh... i had not remembered any of this for good reason uh... this is not something that i want to think about but every time you do this the ones laughing hardest in here

are greg cody and chris Cody. Chris laughing in my face. So Chris, I'm gonna do it to you now. All right? I want to do 50 shades of Greg. Oh God. Yeah, get me some paperwork around here somewhere. Find me something that Greg can read so I can do this to you so you can see how not funny this is to do when it's your father involved. Like these things, you have to understand, I have never thought of my father this way. I never want Greg to have a coughing fit, but if there was ever a good time,

it's in the middle of one of these passages. So get me a couple of passages that would be funny for 50 Shades of Greg, please. Even the time you were hiding under his bed? I don't like to remember any of this. You were 36. I don't like to think about any of this. I've got a question for you two.

I need to tell people now before they make all sorts of plans to drive through this Art Basil traffic. You guys were going to have a big night at a church tomorrow night and then I'm hearing from all sorts of people yesterday on Facebook that the event was canceled and I thought it was just some of the stuff that happens around Stugatz where for you never know if he's gonna show up and it was a bit but you guys are now not doing this tomorrow night the event has been canceled and i'm assuming it's because of an act of god and i'm assuming in a

church that stood out to would immediately burst into flames based on just his legacy upon entering the church so this is act what happened as i told you earlier. I Requested a synagogue and Greg wanted to watch football. Yeah It's all good. Except for two dots. It's just a long line. It's for different reasons. I like that chicken.

Two dots, come on. Come on. Happy Chanukah. People were excited. We were gonna celebrate a big week of authorship and bestselling and all sorts of things at a church. But were they excited enough? Shit happens.

I was worried I was gonna be struck by lightning walking into that church. So I was nervous about that. I mean, truth is the response was so overwhelming. They need to find a bigger venue. Okay. That's true. Stadium, perhaps.

You held out for more money. Truth is, is how that started. Yeah. I have to get to this, though, because as part of this giant week that Stugatz is having, as a publishing giant who didn't read or write his own book but is going to get all the money in the sales from his book and it's a monster success. The audience has bought tens and tens of thousands of books. So it's been a big week for Stu

Gotz. But on top of that, something we were talking about yesterday is, and this is, God almighty, I just can't believe this is happening. found the original sound chris how incriminating is it uh... what is the original sound as i have not heard it of still gots talking to the commissioner of baseball about this idea that the commissioner baseball has now blatantly stolen in front of everybody and it's a great idea but i don't remember what manfred's response was to this.

So when you heard the sound, Chris, what did it reveal? It revealed that, see, remember, we had the contentious interview with Manfred, so that's the one we combed through yesterday. We thought it was in there. We had him on apparently before that, and that's when Stu got, before we had all the tension, so this was the interview before that,

and we asked him, and it goes about how you'd expect. And Dan is kind of doing this stuff of like, oh, you're wasting the guy's time. So he, you know, we're kind of, you know, he dismisses it completely. The thing that he's open to now, he completely dismisses. Not open to, the thing that we're accusing him publicly of stealing from Stugat.

I have had attorneys reach out to me on social media saying they'd like to represent me, that I have a case against Major League Baseball Copyright case. Yes. I don't I don't think you have any ownership over this particular idea, but I want to claim it nationally Commissioner if I may if I may let me present you with a radical. Oh, no if I'm okay All right. I like to call it commissioner. I like to call it the magic at bat. Okay now just hear me out for a second Okay Commissioner when you go to an NBA game Okay, you were guaranteed you're gonna see LeBron James or Dwayne Wade or Kevin Durant or Westbrook

Don't waste this man's time. You're an important man Who's got it was so important that he's got people on the line with phlegm problems that are listening in on his conversation But I think the commissioner will agree with me on this one. You're guaranteed to see those guys play 35, 40 minutes, which is basically like 90, 95% of the entire game. Let's get to it. In baseball, when I go to a Marlins game, I'm only going to see four at-bats at Stanton, so I want to implement what I like to call the magic at-bat, where each manager at any time during the game can go with...

Because, commissioner, I'm not going to see a pitcher hit. I'm not going to see a shortstop hit I'm going to see Stanton hit so four to five magic at bats for each manager We can put Stanton in whenever he wants and there's and there's smoke and the kids love magic You're wasting this man's time. What do you think? I'm with your friend. You're wasting my time Crazy idea You would agree more time the stars are on the field the better for baseball. You're going to continue to argue this.

You're really going to continue to argue this. Let me give you a really serious answer about a suggestion like that. We are very open to the idea of making changes to the game. We see pace of game as one example of it. We see instant replay from last year as another example of it. When you make those changes, I think it's always important to ask yourself the question as to whether you are interfering with the history and the traditions of the game. And I think the suggestion that you just floated would fall squarely in the

category of would interfere with the history and traditions of the game. So that's a maybe? No. No. I think that's a no. A defiant and angry no. But Commissioner, did you hear about the smoke? Did you hear the part about the smoke? That's proof, is it not? That's not AI. I want to find myself retroactively for tone. You should, and no support. Not supporting you enough. That should be a new fine.

We need to come up with a whole new fine system. I ended the other fine system, so we need to come up with an enforceable fine system. I don't know how much money Greg Cody owes. He hasn't paid money fine system i don't know how much money greg kodio's he hasn't paid money and i don't know how long and i don't like i don't know how to enforce any of this but we should be enforcing something there should be some rule from the show that gave you forbid flag planting because we love rules so much we want more rules in

sports is what we're about word uh... rules and ward commissioners named Ward. I love it. The Warden. That's a good nickname. I think we'd agree that that's a good nickname. A great nickname, thank you, you're welcome. Mike, how's the oral history going?

Because I know that I have enjoyed listening, reminiscing about some of the stuff, and I know the listeners have been listening to a lot of it so I assume you're not getting a whole lot of criticism on it. I'm not getting a whole lot of criticism on it. One of the criticisms that I've received very few of them on social media is like hey I'm trying to listen to some of the earlier episodes where can I find the earlier episodes because it's on our main channel feed doesn't have its own dedicated RSS feed and people are

finding it hard to find. Go to lebatardaf.com. We have a special page where we put together a playlist so you can listen to just the oral history episodes. It's been fun. It's been revealing. It's been like to record these a little taxing because we're covering some some old shit that you know it drums up some good memories, some not so good memories. You put yourself back in those stressful places. The next episode really covers, for me, the most stressful time in our show's history. And that'll be coming at you next Friday.

But I'm really proud of it. I love the contributions. It was good to hear old Money Charlie on the last episode and see how much he's grown from his experience with us. And I'm really grateful that the listening audience has really responded to it and maybe, maybe at the end of all this we do something with these episodes that we've put together and maybe we get an audiobook that's up to snuff. I'll read it.

I don't believe that you will read it or sell it or show up to churches to celebrate it. The synagogue would be nice. Dan, truth be told, I did flip on my Miami CFP argument in 24 hours and I was absolutely pressured by the powers that be at Miami. Wait, but who's bought and paid for it? I claimed he was bought and paid for it. Yeah, but I'm the one doing the buying and paying and I just do what they tell me. You're paying and not paying for it.

He's paying to be bought and paid for. The power dynamic on this is really inverted. But college athletics, we love it. But you didn't really fight for your program. I just got texted by Todd Fritz over at the Dan Patrick show and there's like, hey, short notice, but is there any chance that you can join us live in an hour to talk about the CFP? Nice. Dan, yesterday I realized after having my arm twisted by my head coach that this is

a politicking game. If DeBoer is going on McAfee, we're front facing Miami show, we'll be damned if we let this happen. Now we mobilized and we did what we could and we were so close, but would you like to join Dan Patrick and really truly argue with conviction that Miami should be in this? Because I don't actually believe you think Miami should be in it. Well, Ken, no, I could absolutely and easily argue,

I could absolutely muster righteous indignation on behalf of if you're gonna make it a made for television event hey how about giving me the best quarterback in the best offense and let me take my chances in a shootout game you're gonna promise me a shootout game uh... i can absolutely do that with conviction but i think i'd prefer for you jeremy and jessica for you, Jeremy, and Jessica to make the argument on behalf of all of it because you guys, you guys are still making merit-based arguments when I continue to

look at you and be like what are you guys talking about? Like how do you not understand that they're gonna tell you the 12th team is whatever the argument is because you can make the argument for any 12th team and then they're gonna put Alabama on television because everybody wants to see Alabama on television. So you want Mike to respond to Todd Fritz, ah man, but I'm bringing Jess and Jeremy with me? The whole show.

That the whole show is about to make the argument, not just me. I like the idea of the three of them doing it. I think the three of them are the most passionate about this and they will help Mike. Well they're the most passionate about college football, but Mike's the only one who's passionate about the Miami argument.

Right, I think it was your suggestion. Are you outsourcing your own hit? I also think, Mike, no offense to you, you did hurt the argument a little bit yesterday when you said Syracuse was as good as South Carolina and Alabama. So maybe doing a little bit more harm than good there.

My point is, there's a whole- That got rid of it. What I hate so much about college football is the response to that is, you're an idiot, what are you talking about? Alabama would smoke Syracuse, really? Cause if Syracuse plays Oklahoma, how does that game go? You just showed to me that you lost to two six-win teams. You lost

to Vanderbilt as a huge favorite on the road. So don't tell me you know with full conviction that South Carolina is better than Syracuse, that Alabama is better than Syracuse, because this is the whole convenient thing that's working for the SEC. When they actually play these games Dan, in bowl games and inter-conference, it doesn't hold up. Shine a light on it. Check out Ole Miss' record. Two weeks ago, Nick Saban asked, what would Ole Miss' record be inside the Big 12?

And I told you already, a team that went winless inside the Big 12 beat Arkansas, that beat Tennessee. And then the Big 12 tweeted out Ole Miss' scores against the Big 12. The Big 12 owns Ole Miss. It's convenient because everybody just thinks it's 2011 and they're the only conference

that's paying players anymore. It's not. The talent has been dispersed. It's not a top 25 anymore. There are about 40 teams that on any given Saturday can beat you. So just coming at an argument to thoroughly dismiss Syracuse, a scenario in which Syracuse can beat you. So just coming at an argument to thoroughly dismiss Syracuse, a

scenario in which Syracuse can beat Alabama, is not good faith. I just dismissed them because they lost to Stanford. I think I'm actually the only person here that can be objective about this because I don't have an allegiance to any conference. I hate all conferences. This is why you guys should all just be independent because you get to choose who you play for you get to decide who your Non-conference games are you get to decide who you play at the end of the season the week before the playoff rankings come out You get a choice you get to decide what network you err on you get to decide everything. It's great You have independence you have freedom ignore the stupid

Five team ACC deal that you made which really at the end of the day only hurts you because Florida State stinks this year You that's another team you should be mad at by the way, Florida State. I agree with you though in a lot of principle on what you're saying about the SEC. I think the SEC is probably the best conference in college football, but I don't think the gap between the SEC and the Big 10

and the Big 12 and the ACC is as big as SEC fans think it is. I think that this year in particular, the argument for that is really, really, really weak. I do though think that South Carolina and Alabama are better than Syracuse. That's fine, but it wasn't Lane after they lost to Kentucky saying like, this is this conference like, why don't you try to play Kentucky? And then Louisville beats Kentucky

by 40. It's just very interesting that people, and quite frankly, it's a lot of ESPN personalities that don't know jack shit about college football that just get the headlines. It's a lot of ESPN personalities that don't know jack shit about college football that just get the headlines. It's a lot of people that casually follow. Sue Gotts has been saying, God bless him, do it against Alabama for two decades. They're not actually watching the games. They're not, nothing sticks to the SEC. When they get called on their bullshit,

it just means more, brother, because they get to have more teams in the college football playoff, so they get more lottery tickets, so they get to have more teams in the college football playoff so they get more lottery tickets so you get the confirmation bias that look, at the end of the day, they're champions. Hang on for one, first of all, I think the Kentucky loss did disqualify Ole Miss from the playoff. Second, I think at the point in the season in which Ole Miss lost to Kentucky, Kentucky

had just come off of the Georgia game, which was extremely close. And I think that that was a fair argument to make at the time. Now, Kentucky proceeded to have one of their worst seasons of all time. So that argument aged terribly. But at the time- They're the Stanford of the SEC.

At the time you could maybe, okay, I don't know, maybe this loss is not the worst thing ever. But now that is clearly why they're not in it anymore. I also think there's another team that should be pissed off, which is South Carolina, because if Clemson wins the ACC, South Carolina, guess what they did this past weekend? They beat Clemson. Yeah, but again, we were having this conversation

during one of the breaks and the general attitude, ah, Clemson, they suck. Well, what does that make South Carolina? Because Clemson threw up on themselves. They were in control of that game the entire time. Clemson kind of stole, that game was kind of stolen from Clemson and that South Carolina made plays at the end and club Nick turns the ball over When they're already in game tying field goal range, so if Clemson sucks ass doesn't South Carolina just suck a little less ass

No, I mean like I get your point in general, but they won. So like when you beat your rival, even if it's ugly and it goes down to the last drive, you still won the game. And like the exact opposite argument is what happened to Miami, where if Miami wins by four points, we're not like, how much better is Miami than Syracuse? We're like, well, Miami's 11 and one, they're in the ACC championship game. The argument all year was win games and you get in and Miami was in position to do

so. And look, we've long know this is not a college football playoff. This is an ESPN college football invitational. It is what it is. But they've also been consistent the whole time. The first thing that they look at is how many great wins do you have? And what they're saying for Alabama is they beat Georgia and they beat South Carolina, and those are better wins than Miami. And then after that, what they look for is good losses

in their mind. But when you have the first determining factor being good wins, they have two ranked wins, and Miami doesn't have any. They have Missouri also. Well, that's another thing, Missouri being ranked all season long. But I would disagree with you, Jeremy,

in that what is the one thing they prioritize? It shifts. Every year it's something new. Strength of schedule didn't matter until it did. And this is not my take. This is Greg McElroy, famous Alabama grad. Like he even admitted that the scale that this thing was judged on changed in the last few days.

There's also different committee members this year. I mean, I think that last year what happened with the playoff with Florida State getting left out, even though they won all their games, which like Jer-Jer-Ber, you're right. It's always been like, well, win all your games. And there's no argument about it. Well, in a 14 playoff, they got left out and it was really stupid. And so I think a lot of credibility was lost from people that think that the committee will do anything to put SEC teams in even though there is a I'm not saying it's super legit but there is a decent enough argument for Alabama to be over Miami this year because of Georgia we're parsing last year I think is really what's tainting this entire

conversation and we're forcing people off rightfully so you said it's an ESPN open invitational if you look at the investment that ESPN has made in the ACC compared to what they've made in the SEC, all this stuff starts making a little bit more sense. You're totally right. The place that I'm going to need some help with, because we've got a real tension here at Metal Arch Media, as we've got rising stars and there are only so many microphones that we have, and we're trying to give them to as many people as possible but what ends up happening is the following. I'm promising that while everything you guys just talked about is a very

interesting college football argument the weeds of it are fascinating okay but I sat here next to Greg Kody and Stu gots and saw that they weren't listening to a word you guys were saying because you guys want to do this show where we're playing the sound of Ward Manual. So I'm going to give you the show you guys want to do. Here's Ward Manual because sports needs more war. Orisa, good to be with you again. What it came down to is as we evaluated both teams and looked at how they ranked. Obviously we think highly of both teams, ones at 11, ones at 12. But what it really came down to is Alabama

is 3-1 against current top 25 teams and Miami is 0-1. Alabama is 6-1 against teams above 500 in Miami's 4-2. Both have had some losses that weren't what they wanted out of those games, but in the last three games, Miami has lost two twice. And so for us, in evaluating their body of work, we felt that Alabama got the edge over Miami. So the show you guys want to do, and Dan Patrick's asking me to be on it, and as I listen to you guys talk, I'm like, well, maybe we can just create these characters. Hey, anti-SEC voice, Notre Dame fan, annoying guy, and we can have them. Annoying guy.

Just talk. Hey, leave him alone. He just ended a point by saying I was right. Just talk at Dan Patrick and just make his eyebrows singe with how much you've learned about college football. Or. Dude, you're really triggering me by not offering me a rebuttal.

Or, yeah, no, I know. And you were offering Ward rebuttals. I'm hearing this file over 500 thing makes me crazy. While Ward was talking, you're, yes, I know you've got plenty of rebuttals. That's the show you want to do. There are three teams not ranked in the top 25 specifically because Miami beat them. In fact Miami is also 3-1 when you make it to top 30.

And also is 500 not 500 and above? They lost to two 6-6 teams here people! Okay so the thing I need help with, okay, because I'm trying to tell you guys something. Like I'm laughing at all of this because god greg cody owners of local car dealerships wearing loud orange jackets who used to run this board gave the a cc to john skipper the the c o of this company that that a cc deal that jessica is talking about one of the historically

worst in the history of television for the people who had value was concocted by our CEO This is all made for television nonsense And you guys don't seem to understand it as you argue about the merits of this and the show I want to do is 50 shades of Greg where Greg Cody Read some of this content so that Chris Cody can feel the way I do when you play that sound of my father Greg, what do you mean? You're not gonna read it? It's 50 Shades of Greg. Yeah, no, I'm not doing that.

I mean, live. That's a lot of pressure. I also sent you a script via email that might be cleaner. I saw it and it wasn't cleaner. Wait a minute. I've got info... You're refusing to do this? You might have approached me about this off air. It is graphic. Like, we edited... We do a live show.

They didn't approach me on air about playing 50 Shades of Poppy. That's something they unleashed on me three minutes into the show. In my dad's defense, those were edited and bleeped where needed to be. We'll bleep butt plug again. Don't worry. There's worse than butt plug in the things that I read.

Well, why don't you come up with an old timey word as a replacement so we can make this more appropriate. All right, so I'll do it next. Regardless, nobody wants to do the show I want to do. Everybody wants to do their own show. We'll figure out who wins on Dan Patrick, perhaps. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Mm.

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