The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - David Left Trysta a Voicemail | Hour 1

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

"I love middle-aged white guys." Dan is going through it this morning because he and David got into an argument on Nothing Personal, so to clear it up, David joins us on DAN'S show. Then, could Magic Johnson or Steve Ballmer go to prison? How is local TV revenue negatively impacting future salary in pro sports leagues? Are the Manning brothers old, white, and not that interesting? Plus, Dan learns about Zaslow's 9/11 tribute, and David calls out Trysta for ignoring his calls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Samson, I think, just said people were sending him nudes yesterday. Sexy. Hello, Nick. Is that a heart cake? It's very hard. Wow. It's like a six-pack, hard. Whoa boy.

Yeah, baby. Our first stutter that rivals me. trying to say matriculate. Ra-R-R-R-R-G-K-S. Hello, Nick. Show me your pack. I like that. I like that.

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David, like, why does Dan come in? Why does Dan come in today all rattled and riled up over something that happened on your show? Well, well, Zaz, it's hard for you to believe, maybe, but Dan, as... a guest and the godfather of all of Medallark and all of what we do sat with us for 50 minutes and chose to not just swear during the show like he had a tongue of a drunken soldier. What's wrong with swearing? Because we don't swear on nothing personal. We don't find the need to do what Pablo does or what Dan does to use swear words as a way

to be cool or as a way to make a point when in fact swearing means you have no point to make and and two Dan for whatever reason thought that it would be important during nothing personal to get the audience to learn about all that is my therapy and we had a lot to get to like sidney sweetie like Joe buck and we had five topics we didn't get to because Dan wanted to derail because he thinks that's awesome and coca hit his limit as he should have I backed coca he's my producer since day one and we're about to do episode 1500. And then Dan gets emotional and then storms out of the studio. And that was that.

You think swearing makes you cool? I lost my composure is what happened. And it's not, I mean, it's almost literally uncool. I lost my cool. And so no, I don't think it makes me cool. But I also didn't storm out of the studio. They were yelling at me. The two of them were yelling at me.

And so I just left the studio because I had a show to do where no one. was here and no one was yelling at me in the other room. So that's, that's what happened. But Dan, if you're looking for sycophants, you have to look a different direction. I wasn't looking for sycophants. I was bothered by your opinion on Sidney Sweeney. What was your opinion on Sydney Sweeney? David? Let me guess it wasn't pro woman. It's not about being pro or anti-woman, Trista. It's about what actually works. And it is hard to say when the CEO of the company comes out and says, by the way, this worked. That's why you do an advertisement like that.

Do I think it's set back women's sports for decades the way these athletes have come out and said? No, just like I don't think the body issue does or the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue or, frankly, that male, Chipendales. I don't think that sets back my ability to be a man without a six-pack. So I think that everyone just needs to take a step back and say, oh, there's a company I didn't know about, whoa, that's something. I'd like to be associated with. Let me give it a try. You think Sidney's the same as the ESPN body issue? I think that people do whatever they need to do to get numbers, click, sales in every company,

ever started by any person. ESPN, the body issues were actually a lot more revealing than the Sydney-Sweeney ad, right? If I'm remembering correctly. The one where Sydney-Sweeney was on the basketball room was, that one was pretty revealing. Yeah, it's pretty good. But it's not like we haven't seen it before. No. I'm not sure why.

And by the way, we're all good with guns and machine guns and murder and killing. But when it comes to breasts, I mean, let's not even talk about nudity. Why don't we put up Bill Belichick's breasts again? Oh, what a rack. It's my future. This is... I would take meatloaf over Bill, but that said, there's nothing wrong with a good man rack. His name is Robert Paulson.

No. His name is Robert Paulson. His name is Robert. Paulson. His name is Robert Paulson. His name is Robert Paulson. You can't go hands folded if you're Belichick in this spot. When you have a barrel check, I can speak for barrel chested people. You got to go, you got to outstretched. You got to go arm over the chair. We got to open it up. When we bring the arms close, that brings everything together. We got to open it up if you're built. I needed him like this. If he's standing like this in that photo, there's no boobage.

See, we don't need this. All right, guys, all right, that's enough. We don't need draw strings brought up here. Well, you're not, you're our expert on where it is. You should put your hands when people are looking at your mid-section. You see how my hands aren't connecting though, because I know if my hands connect, it brings everything together. We got to stay wide. God, remember when you guys loved to a man, that was time. That was a time. That was a time. That feels like a hundred years ago. I have a number of things that I want to get to with David Samson because I've been telling people this. I don't know if you guys have been watching, but what Pablo and David are doing in terms of being business acumen guys who give you their expertise on a part of sports

that I had no access to and did not understand the business. I want to start by saying that what David is doing on nothing personal has more information in it about how sports business works than I have ever seen from anyone in the sports media in terms of the expertise. But I mean, you and David are doing something with Pablo, another episode today. And I'm going to ask you a simple but shocking question. Do you think Magic Johnson and Steve Balmer are going to end up in prison? Well, Magic's a different story, right? You have to think about that question.

Is that possible? Well, magic's a different story because I had to separate the two stories in my brain. We talked about Steve Balmer. And, you know, David was great on this. I was like, what is the pathway for that to actually happen within the context of what we saw? And a lot of it is about a very basic thing. Fraud. And our guy, Lou Manzo, how did it define fraud for us, David?

There has to be line and there has to be money. That's fraud. Two very important things. And that's what happened in this case. So there was line and there was money. And the problem is what Amin Pablo and I talked about. And obviously, Dan, you're right. We are the best in the business.

and you are not prone to hyperbole the way Troy Aikman is. So I'm so thankful that you gave us audio of all the times. Troy Aikman repeats himself when you do the same exact thing, literally. But all of that said, when we got together and did an episode on Pablo Tori finds out, what we were trying to figure out is who are the victims? Because you can't have a crime without a victim. That's my question. Are you guys victims?

Yes. The collective, other teams and fans of those teams are victims. So now we're getting to something. Now we're getting to something because can we prove, can a grand jury actually hear evidence that Mickey Erison was a victim of the salary cap circumvention? Because Mickey Erison couldn't sign Kauai Leonard because he wasn't willing to break the rules. So Mickey Erison would stand would stand on the press conference on the dais and say, here I am the victim. Is that compelling for a grand jury or then a regular jury? My answer is probably not. Fans, man, I'm a fan of the Lakers and I am a victim here because we couldn't sign Kauai Leonard and it would have been great to have them. I don't love that theory either, Dan. The theory that I love is the victims here are the shareholders of the public companies, Dactronics, Boingo Wireless, who are engaged with Steve Balmer in salary caps or convention in a way that was not properly disclosed to any of the shareholders or to, anybody within Steve Balmer circled the league. And now we can start talking about victims like there were with aspiration where the CEO

went to prison for 14 years because there were people who lost money investing under false pretenses. So if that is the thread that the DOJ starts trying to get in between, there could be indictments from a grand jury, but we're a long way from there. But that's what the show was about. Okay, David, but I don't want to be reckless with my forecasting. Is there any percentage of chance, because the Department of Justice is now involved, that Steve Balmer or Magic Johnson are in any way seriously worried about losing even one minute of their freedom?

So I'd ask you to stop conflating Magic Johnson and Steve Bomber. No, I know. No, I know there are two different things, but you have two reports that are at the center of the clipper. and the Lakers in Los Angeles that has money around it and possible wrongdoing around it. And I'm just asking, can either of those things escalate into a serious punishment that isn't hyperbole that would get people's attention? I'll stick with Steve Balmer and get to Magic in a minute, but I'm not going to put those two in the same sentence.

What Steve Balmer is in a situation where the DOJ in the Eastern District in Brooklyn has already come out and said that there is a five, that's being opened there's a probe there is investigation there are resources being put forth to see whether Steve Balmer did something or somebody else did something that would rise to the level of a grand jury looking at the evidence and saying excuse me let's put forward an indictment do I think that there could be an indictment and then a conviction and then a plea or not in that order that would result in loss of one minute of freedom for Steve Balmer,

the chances are one to 99. It is not every day that someone goes to prison. That is the biggest liberty that can get taken away. Forget freedom of speech, forget freedom on a concert stage. When you are in prison, that is the number one constitutional right of freedom that gets taken away.

And it doesn't happen lightly. We are a long way from saying that Steve Balmer is going to lose that freedom, but I'd rather not be him right now, that's for sure. David, we kind of touched upon this as well in the episode, but the chances of the Trump administration using this as a form of compromise to basically say, oh, now we got something on you unless you play ball, which is a strategy we've seen them kind of flex across the landscape

in terms of getting other companies and other billionaires to be more flexible with them. even Elon Musk, by the way. His whole relationship started because there was an inquiry and it's like, hey, how do I make this better? I'll just be friendly with Trump. The chances of this administration using this against Steve Balmer. I don't want, I mean, you to have recency bias, especially on a show that is so left-leaning. The reality is that every administration does deals that way, much like every business does deals that way.

In fact, personally, we all do deals that way where we negotiate. with our partner, our significant other, over what we want versus what they want and try to find a middle ground. Do I think that Trump and his Department of Justice is actually doing something with Mark Walters saying, by the way, you're going to have a team sold that's going to be the Lakers, and we'd like a Kushner family member to be involved because we're investigating you and your insurance companies, and this would go a long way toward helping that investigation go away. Do I think things like that happen every single day under Republicans and under Democrats? Deals are being made. So I don't find that to be even noteworthy because in the no, you know that.

In this case, do I think that there is a world where Donald Trump has asked the DOJ, which is like a clown show these days, given that all the best attorneys have resigned because they're being asked to do things that are even beyond the scope of the insanity that they have been asked to participate in in prior administrations. Do I think there's a world where Trump has said to DOJ, let's take a look at this Democrat, Steve Balmer, billionaire. Let's see if we can make something stick and then we'll wait to convert him and then move on to the next thing.

Of course, that's a possibility. My favorite part of the football season is the confidence everybody has before kickoff. Zazzo already knows how the game is going to end. Tony has studied every possible matchup and Chris Cody is convinced his fantasy team is unbeatable. Then the game starts, everything immediately goes off the rails, and suddenly nobody remembers making any of those predictions. That's why a legendary game day starts with an ice-cold Miller light,

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David, I have a number of questions on a number of different subjects. Let's start with this, and I'm curious about Amin's thoughts on this as well. Cratering TV revenue locally affecting the NBA salary cap so that it grows less than it would grow under normal circumstances. What does it mean? Well, Amin, let's start with the Fed. fact that when you've got players who sign max deals that are a percentage of cap, if the cap goes up, that means their guaranteed money goes up. If the cap goes down, they're guaranteed money goes down because they've got the same percentage of a smaller pie. So there are players who do

get impacted by that. And I mean, what happened here is that the NBA had forecast a 10% increase in the salary cap year over year over year. And last year it was 5.5%. And they told teams it's going to be that again. So act accordingly. But yesterday, they changed their forecast like the Federal Reserve increasing interest rates. And they said, nope, it's now 6.7%. You've got an extra 2 million to think about for all of you apron huggers and all of you players who are paid by a percentage. So not quite exactly. So the max is tied to a percentage of salary cap, but only for the first year. After that, it's based on negotiated raises a maximum about 8% if you are an incumbent, 5% if you came from another team. So basically, future salary caps, like people who sign future max deals, yes, theirs is fluctuating.

But if you've already signed your deal, then it's in the books as the percentage of the cap of the year when you signed it. And then after that, it's raises. But to the point of what you're saying, David, this used to happen a lot more in the past, where the league would say, well, I think the cap is only going to go up this much. And then it was like, oh, surprise, it went up that much. The reason why we're having more stability is because after the last TV rights deal, which was massive, they did the thing that they didn't do 10 years earlier, which was cap smoothing. So they already have this money on the books guaranteed.

Yes, the impact of the cratering of local TV does impact that money, but the money's there. And so the cap is going to keep going up. and what they're going to do is they're always going to err on being more cautious with that estimate, with the first estimate, which is why we see it come in at a little bit higher than what they originally said. Oh, I mean, I don't think that they were cautious at all because they had basically highlighted that there'd be a 10% increase in the cap after they did the national TV deal with the cap smoothing that you're talking about. And then they adjusted their estimate down to five and a half and now they're adjusting it back to 6.7. And so the reason why I think this happened is I don't think the NBA or any of us had any idea that the RSN crater would really impact teams the way it has because they have not been able to replace the money that they lost in guarantee from their local networks. And all this over the air crap where everyone says how great it is that their games are seen by so many people, that's really nice to say.

But it doesn't line your pocket with bills. It lines your pocket with people who can access your product, which is not enough to increase the cap. So I think that that change is really, really significant. It is. It's insane. Actually, we think about not only for us, but also hockey and I guess baseball to a lesser extent, but this idea that, like, right now the broadcast meetings are happening in New York. Every single local broadcaster is in New York at these meetings.

And one of the questions I wonder they're going to ask, like, are we all going to have jobs? Because a lot of this, like you said, David, there was much. that used to come in that would pay for a Jeremy Tashay, that would pay for a Jason Jackson, that would pay for an Eric Reed and all those guys. And now it's kind of like, like you said, it sounds nice to say, yeah, we're going over the air, but like that means we don't have that local money that used to come in from Fox Sports Southeast or whatever station that used to have. It's even worse than that.

And you say baseball, the impact on baseball is even greater because baseball's local revenue broadcast was the largest percentage of revenue for these teams. The national deal in the NBA has become the North Star. The national TV deal in the NFL has always been the North Star, and baseball is trying to get to the part where the national deal becomes that North Star, but it's not there now. So baseball teams have gotten crushed when they signed players thinking that their RSN money would continue the way it always had, and then all of a sudden it dried up. and it has caused a huge disparity now in teams, payrolls, competitive balance, and all the other issues that are being argued about in baseball currently.

This is a good story here that's going to make you guys laugh. The Toronto Raptors and Kauai Leonard have held advanced discussions and are nearing an agreement on a contract extension, according to league sources. Leonard is eligible to sign for upwards of two years, 126, million dollars. He's going to pay $700,000 to get a giant raise. I like the idea of calling it an extinction for the Raptors. Or for the Clippers. David, a number of questions here involving the streaming services and a headline I saw here the other day, people asking,

has sports on streaming already failed? I don't know how it is that anyone would ask that question this early, but what are you making of the sports streaming numbers, given that all of the streaming companies have bet heavily on sports being the one thing in entertainment that people will absolutely gravitate to at an appointed time. Who asked that question? Could it have been someone from Fox? Is that possible?

It was awful announcing asked that question. So there is someone from Fox who asked the same question and basically said that, don't kid yourself, streaming has not worked at all. And I have the opposite view because if you look at what Amazon's done with the NFL, they have lowered the average age of the viewer. And that's something we worked on in baseball for 18 years straight. Our audience is getting older. They're going to croak and then we're screwed.

What do you do? You try to get a younger audience. That's what every business is trying to do, which is why middle age to upper middle age people become less and less relevant in terms of who's being advertised to. And what Amazon's done has gotten people 49 years old to watch football. Sorry. And so the reality is that it's worked better than anyone actually thought it would work.

And when you look at the numbers, you can look at ratings if you'd like. You can say that, wow, the opener at Netflix in Australia was lower or not as compelling as last year. But that's not what leagues are actually looking at. They're looking at demographics and they're looking at competition to bid for next rights deals. And it's hard to argue that Fox isn't up against competition. Would you find it unreasonable for an entire package to go to Amazon? Not Thursday, but Thursday, Sunday, Monday. I see a world where streaming packages take over.

John Skipper said on the sporting class, there will be a Super Bowl on a streaming network in the next deal. And it's not even a question. It's a guarantee that a Super Bowl will appear on Netflix. or Amazon or Apple going forward. And that's just the life we're in right now. It may not be correlated, but the first thing I thought of, David, when you said that these leagues want to get younger is how much money ESPN is now paying

Joe Buck with this extension. I don't think that paying these broadcasters help you get any younger. Like, you would think that maybe they would bring in some people who connect to Gen Z, Gen Alpha to pair alongside of older broadcasters to bridge the gap might be something to think about as well. Yeah, I think you just bake in the cost of Joe Buck into the cost of buying a rights deal by getting games from the NFL. You want to have Joe Buck there because, as a mean said, early in the first hour, its consistency, its turnkey, maybe that was used as, where it's just not a revolving door anymore. And that makes a whole lot of sense, actually. Joe Buck is steady.

Joe Buck is good. And frankly, the Manning cast, which was meant to help lower the demographic and the age, it's not working. But they're old. They don't work. Maybe that's true. They are old and white and not that interesting. It is true that it turns out that quality actually matters. And that should be a compliment to all of us and our audience.

But when you look at Altcast and the amount of money you're putting in that, because all these channels are trying it because they've got all these platforms and they need to use them to try to justify the prices they're paying for these live rights. So you're going to see more and more alt-casts. You're going to see people trying different things with different people of different colors and ages. And we just have to put our seatbelts on. Are you sure about that? Are you sure about that?

Well, the Manning cast slipped to 705,000 viewers. It's 3% of the total audience that watch the Broncos Chiefs game. Is it going to survive? because ESPN gave the mannings a lot of money and put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. Are the manning's old and white and not that interesting at Lebitard Show? It's not going to survive in its current form

and it was never meant to survive in its current form. It's really hard to have a program inside the NBA is a great example because it's so rare where you have the same sort of cast and it builds and it builds and it gets better and better but all runs come to an end.

The Manning influence is coming to an end Seeing them in every commercial is coming to an end because there's a new group, a new generation of people who are going to take over the basically being the voice, the face and the body of what companies want to project onto potential customers. And it's nothing to be sad about. It's just the circle of life. Let's have Sidney Sweeney on an alt-cast. If they could get Sidney Sweeney on an alt-cast, they would hire her tomorrow. Yeah, that's pretty good. Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks.

I know it well. It's usually when I show up. Everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Quervo. I'm walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Quervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up. Putin and hollering. Keep it quervo. Keep it quervo, baby. Dan Levitar.

Yo, I'm not going to lie. Jonathan Sassel. I look good. This is the Dan Levitar show. David, I'm curious the high-profilever nature of the Steve Balmer, Clippers, caps or convention case. How is that going to impact the negotiations between MLB and their players association? The biggest issue with MLB and MLBPA right now is the salary cap and the salary floor.

and on nothing personal today, we gave an analysis of what's going on publicly right now when Bruce Meyer, the head of the MLBPA, goes on a podcast and basically spews outrageously incorrect facts trying to sway public opinion in the player's direction. And then I could tell you that MLB is putting ads out all over, trying to get the public to follow their point of view and agree with them. Somehow, both sides think it matters what they're going to. the public thinks. And the truth is, it matters not. What matters the most is that the two sides get together at the table and actually negotiate. I wish Bruce Meyer would sit at the table and

counter MLB's proposal. Let's have a discussion about money, about salary caps, about salary floors. But instead, they're trying to convince you that they're right when you don't even have a vote. So I'm not sure I understand the theory of what they're doing and what it will result in is frustration because there's going to be a long lockout. Chris Cody, what are you doing back there? He's doing his own show. Why are you like looking at your wristwatch and then dropping onto the floor? Like, what are you doing other than listening to David?

I'm a showman. When the camera goes on me, I act. This is because he showed up right after the show started. It's not prepared. It's always the same move with him. I'm a showman and all he does is look at his watch and then drop down. He's only got one move. He also asked me what happened with the Marlins last night.

Well, that's the other thing. Just catching up. completely unprepared. You came in here unprepared, wildly unprepared. I got here on time. Guys, guys, it's Thursday. Yesterday was bowling. Come on. Bowling. Bad traffic. It's been a rough morning.

I was busy being bought by Inter-Maiami last night. I got here on time. Samson, Paramount. Everything that's happening with Paramount, give me your finest minute on the mess that is Paramount. Well, they want to merge with Warner Brothers, and they've got attorney generals

who are saying, nah, we'd like to look at this. and what Paramount is saying, oh, you're going to give me a problem in California, here's what we're going to do. We're going to move to Tennessee. And then the Attorney General says, no, you're not. You can't create Hollywood in Tennessee. And then they look around and say, wait a minute, where all the shows at? All the shows are moving to Atlanta, to Tennessee overseas. And L.A. is becoming a place where people go for 72 and Sunny, as opposed to going for show business.

So this is a battle of really, really rich people doing something really important. calling the bluff of politicians saying, I will take my business elsewhere. Will David Ellison actually move Paramount out of Hollywood? The answer is yes, he actually will. Not just threatened to do it, he will do it. Companies move all the time. What's the movie you're reviewing for us this week?

It's a downer, and I watched it yesterday, and I cried, and it was despondent. There's a new documentary called Generation 9-11, and it was just the 25. years since 9-11. I told the story of what was going on in my life during 9-11, and then I watched this documentary, and you forget about all the people who lost their parents or siblings, and now they're grown-ups. They were kids, and a lot of them are interviewed. You forget about the fact that more people have died post-9-11 from being first responders and basically snorting in

all of the chemicals and what it's done to them with cancer, et cetera, and the impact it has on families. You hear from the daughter of the pilot of United Flight 93, who was a little toddler when her dad died that day in Pennsylvania. And I think just people forget. And what makes me sad is that when I speak to kids who are 23 or under, to them, 9-11 is the same as Pearl Harbor Day. It's the same as World War II, Vietnam, World War I, or the War of 1812. And it just makes me feel inadequate that I didn't properly educate any generation about the significance of that day. And the documentary goes into the advantage the presidents have taken since that day to fight a war on terror without the checks and balances of the legislative branch.

So it's a documentary that teaches you. It's very emotional. It's well worth your time. I thought that Metal Arc Media really distinguished itself last week by putting together the single worst tribute of 9-11 done in 25 years by any entertainment or media vehicle in the history of the spoken word. I thought Zaslo particularly is guilty of what it is that you're saying. You've taught no one anything.

Zaslo asked a bunch of people if they knew anything about 9-11, if they had any memories of 9-11, and then asked a bunch of people who didn't have any memories of 9-11. That is such bullshit. That's not at all what happened. That's exactly what happened. That's not at all what happened. Oh, sorry, you led with, I remember Jay Fiedler had a rushing touchdown. that next week. No, I specifically said Tony and Jeremy, you guys, you know, you don't even

remember it, right? That's it. That's a toss. No, all I need to hear from you guys was, that's right, Saslow. Instead, Jeremy went off on a story and everyone fell asleep. All right. First of all, that might be true, but it's not my fault. Not this time. Because you threw it to me and Tony, and I went, Tony, you want to go? To confirm. To confirm. Yeah. To confirm. I don't know everything, so I've asked a question. So you said, hey, everybody, my biggest memory is that Jay Fiedler had a rushing touchdown. Tony, Jeremy, You guys don't remember. The rest of you definitely do.

You guys don't remember, right? Tell me what happened here. That was a positive sports memory. And then after that, you asked Dave a question. Dave, you remember? That was crazy. That's what you said. Oh, whatever.

You know, Dave's on Zoom. It's hard to make sure you get the chemistry down. Hey, Dave, you remember? I have to cheer up. Yeah, Dave, you remember. I remember all of it, Zaz. Can I change the subject, Dan, just to one thing with Trista? I knew.

It was Damashek they were talking about. I was wondering. Damash is the Dave they were talking about. Not you. Thank you. Dave, you remember? On Zoom.

The problem that everything was around Zazlo on that day is that the way we remembered 9-11 is by Zaz asking people if they remembered 9-11. Like that was very, it was very poorly done. It was awful. Get it over with. What do you got for me? I just have a quick one. And I'm sorry to make you uncomfortable. But when I call you to tell you you're doing great on the show and I'm looking forward to tomorrow,

and it goes straight to voice mail and you don't respond in any way. Should I be texting? Because I called it 610 last night, write to voicemail. No response of any kind. And I just want to know, is it me? Is it us? Is it you? How do I get better here, Trista?

I'm so sorry. I didn't even know until right now that you had called. And I don't check my voicemail because nobody leaves voicemails anymore. Yes, text me. Say, hey, I left you a voicemail. So I do have this issue. I've now started to not leave voicemails, but then I have to send a text.

saying tried you, but you should see that I tried you because you'd get a missed call on your phone. So I do feel old and inadequate. Phone on. Do not disturb because I'm on the Lebitard show. I got to stay locked in 24-7. Yeah. At 6.10 p.m.? I've got a related question to what David is asking Trista right here.

You guys in group chats. Everyone's in group chats, right? One way or another in regular group chats. I found, yeah, because you've got green bubbles. I found an insecurity. that I have, which is when I share a meme in the group text, and there's zero response, not even that was corny nothing. They just ignore it and move on.

But then like the next thing that gets shared, lots of reactions. And I'm like, what's happening here? That's how I felt on the group chat yesterday. I was like, hey, what about this? No response. Crickets. Yeah, you guys did that to me yesterday. You did it to Samson yesterday.

I didn't know. Well, but you didn't know is not a defense in a criminal trial. Like I didn't know ignorance is not a defense. I don't know why Samson is bringing this up on air. Is there any particular reason you couldn't have handled this housekeeping off air? Yeah, because she won't take my calls. So I need to know whether this is the one time I can actually communicate with her. And thank you, Dan, for the opportunity.

Have you ever? And may I also remind you, Trista, that it's okay to say I can't talk or I'm busy or I don't want to talk? All I'm looking for is the honesty, like I don't like you or I'm not into middle age white guys. Whatever it is, just say it. And then that will govern my behavior. going for. Be amazing. She just text back.

I don't like you. No, I didn't know. Have I ever, have you ever texted me and I didn't text you back other than the fact that you thought you had my number and you had it wrong? Well, so listen, it's been a comedy of errors since we started it. So I figured that this was just an additional rung on the ladder of absolute miscommunication. I cannot wait to hear your voicemail and I will get right back to you. What are we doing?

Can I have my show back? How about you guys handle your shit in private and don't. drag our show into the sewage. Hey, did you call me? Call me back. I didn't leave a voice made. Get out of here. Dave, you remember? Just first I get yelled at by you and Koka. That's how I start my show today.

I walked in there. They were yelling at him. Then I come out and Jeff. And Jeff, that clown pilot says no one is here and he's just got panic on his face. And then they decide because we didn't plan any of this. Samson's just going to ask, hey, Tristan, why did you call me back?

Come on. Do you not like me? Get out of here, Sam. Get out of here. Dan, you can pull the plug on me at any time. Get out of here. I can't. I just tried. You're still hanging around. You can literally hang up on me.

Bye, David. Love you. Nobody does sports business better than David. As good as anyone in sports business. Well, okay. I know you guys are tired. I don't even have a voicemail. You didn't leave a voicemail.

No, let's not bring that back. Come on. This is what I'm frustrated about because I have said a lot that no one is better at sports business. But none of you are listening to Samson's show. That's fair. And if you cared at all about finance, you'd be getting smarter. But you're not getting any smarter. What you're doing is getting stuck in traffic and not showing up on time

because you don't know what time to get to work because it changes every day. What? What? He gets here on time. He was late one time and then he alters his schedule. The rest of you get here when you feel like it. The rest of you just sort of like, no, keep leaving at the same time. And maybe today is the day that Miami won't be over congested.

I would have been here on time if it wasn't for traffic day. How did he get here on time? and how does he get here on time? Like you guys are coming from the same place, but some of you can't make it on time, but Zaz is here on time every day. But the rest of you keep leaving at the same time and then are surprised when there's an accident.

I was here and ready to fly that airplane straight into the ground, Dan. You do that every day. I know you're always ready for me on that. Third worst. Just that day, you were the third worst. Today, it's a new day. You were the bronze medalist of being the worst.

I didn't talk about a voicemail today, Dan. That's proof right there. I was talking, and you decide to talk. when I'm talking. Don't do that anymore. Thank you. Dave, you remember? It's why the heat let you go. All right. A bit close to the bone. Come on. What happened with Sandy? He's knocking on that mountain. Not the worst. That guy. Come on. You want to really talk about the fact that they brought Sandy out of the bullpen to save a desperation game when they've been throwing the season away with Sandy for six weeks. It was awesome. That's fun. Those are the moments you remember.

remember, Dan. You remember that, and you remember Donnie Bleepin-Murphy 16 years ago. Doesn't matter whether they're in it or not. You remember the moments. That's why you watch the game. And you remember Jay Fiedler, apparently. The funny thing about Zazz remembering Jay Fiedler is that I'm ashamed to admit that I'm ashamed to admit that on 9-11, I was staring at Dave Wonstadt in his office when it happened. And it's happening over the television, over his shoulder. And he's like, I've got a big free agent coming in. I got a, like, he didn't know. He wasn't really paying attention to. I'm just looking at what's happening and they were just moving on with their day when I'm like,

what the hell is that on the television? Dan, you remember? Then I got you there like with a pad and a pen and you got your hat that says press there and you're talking to Dave Wonstead. And he's talking to talk about a free agent and you're like, just leading over like, it's happening over there. That's correct. That's exactly how it happened. And then it happened and dolphins kept behaving as usual after it happened because football people are crazy. Like I'm looking at what had happened and the whole machine just kept moving with like, yeah, we don't have time for this. We've got to keep moving. Kyle Brandt told us the story this week of them wheeling a TV onto the real world set, which I know for a younger listener is like, so.

They never did. The whole point of the real world was you were broken off from the reality of the outside world. and the MTV execs were like, nah, we kind of, we have to let them see this. We can't. Same thing with Big Brother, by the way. Same thing on Big Brother, they were like, I know we don't show you guys

what's happening in the outside world. You got to want to look at this. And meanwhile, you're telling me the dolphins, we're just like, yeah, so a big one this week. Not all of the dolphins, but Wonstead. Like Dave, you remember? Who was the free agent? No, it wasn't even, no, no.

No, it was like somebody that had a workout that wasn't even a name. Like, it was just, it was business's usual mundane bullshit. Like, it was just nothing important. at all. Like the least relevant thing that could possibly be thought about in that moment was the thing the dolphins were thinking about. Dave, you remember?