The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - DLS Classic: Greg Cote Teaches the Kids

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Join us as we relive some of our best hours of 2023 -- Dan questions if he qualifies as "management" at Meadowlark and Stugotz claims Zac Taylor has a stupid face. The entire crew is amazed by the speed of football and how difficult it must be to be a quarterback, as exemplified by the play of 49ers linebacker Fred Bobby Warner Wagner. Then, Billy and Chris Cote defend OBJ before a conversation on the Cowboys as "America's Team." Plus, on Greg Cote Tuesday, Greg accuses Dan of stealing his inhaler and teaches the kids listening some important life lessons. And finally, Mike Ryan has an informed update on Lionel Messi and Inter Miami as the conversation becomes money vs. long-term legacy. Originally published January 23, 2023 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with the Stugat's Podcast. It was the same the other day that we should bring back the mystery crate and one of the questions in there should have at some point Israeli Palestine conflict really where the mystery crate go. There's no one to there's no one The magic crate that is a fine. Why would that be one of the topics though? I mean, it's an odd topic. It's real Palestine. I mean I'm just saying come right this but going on for hundreds of years. I mean, I'm saying complicated subject matter as opposed to what kind of fish would you like to be? I got it. Okay.

Alright, some questions. It doesn't necessarily work without ESPN looming over us. I think I like to be a swordfish. Although there are still topics, not to interrupt Dan again for the second day. I don't even know what to do. I mean, there are topics though that I would still like to have that magic, even though we don't need it for ESPN anymore. Just there are times I'm like, you know what,

let's hit that thing. Yeah, and for all time, say anytime anyone starts talking about libations that aren't approved partnerships. That, yeah, there you go. When we bump up against whatever it is, the machine presently is, that aren't approved partnerships. That, yeah, there you go. When we bump up against whatever it is, the machine presently is,

like Billy yesterday complaining about management, when I'm looking at him and I'm like, how is management making decisions that aren't me? Like how is, I don't, am I management? Yes. I'm now management. So I'm dealing with the company. I mean, that makes you management. It does.

It's a bigger than management. You're the owner, as far as I'm concerned. But I wanted to do the billboard thing and nobody else wanted to do it. Well, see, that's why you hire people that have good advice. Like, yes, it's not always yes, man. Mostly yes, man. Yes, people, but occasionally they gotta tell you,

this is a really bad idea. And not really one of the founding principles of this company. We're gonna be bullies now. Come on, that's not us. Bullies. Yeah, it was very bullying. Yeah, you just called the man stupid looking.

I did not. Wow, debatable. Yeah, but you were the one trying to pour gas on that fire. But it's good clean fun though. So in saying someone has a stupid face is not like a genuine insult. It's a good thing. You're doing a thing.

No. They need to stop taking themselves so seriously. We talked to the bad companies. You know how much buzz your billboard would get in Buffalo if you would have done that? Yeah, it might have been bad press, but like I say, all presses are bad press. I would have welcomed the bad press.

It would have been deeply uncomfortable. We would have looked like assholes, except to our audience, which would be in on the joke and realize we don't actually think Josh Allen has a stupid face. To me, those are the best jokes. The inside jokes for just our audience. I heard your logic yesterday.

If I drive into work one day, and I see a billboard that says my wife has a stupid looking face, but some podcast out of Milwaukee finds it hilarious, and I don't get the joke that still doesn't take away that I've been sold it if it's a sport obviously your wife you're making it insanely personal if I see a billboard that says Jimmy Butler is a stupid face. I'm giggling at I'm not like let's I need blood What is wrong with having a stupid face like some people are just born It doesn't mean you're stupid.

It just means you have like a lost look. Like Zach Taylor to me, the head coach of the Bengal's stupid face. Stop doing this. What do you mean? We don't need a new fight. Well, he's a great coach. He's done a great job. I'm just saying he has a lost look sometimes.

I think when you have a... Besides Nick Suryani looks far more stupid. I think I know what we're doing here. It's what you have a lot of extra skin on your face. I think Zach Taylor and Josh Allen have a little, just like it's like, I don't know, like maybe loose skin, not extra skin. Trevor Lawrence is tight. It's tight.

It's tight. It's not there's no looseness. No, it's just too much face. Exactly. But it's also it's, I don't want to make fun of anybody else's appearance here. Who has the ideal face? We're here. Oh, this is a great question.

Oh, man, so many people. Wow. I handled, yeah, Max, your face, your spin. Oh, good. Really? Yertsven. Oh, I like Jimmy Butler's bone structure. I would know Yertsven's face.

I was sitting next to him. I would. You talk about bone structure. You have, you guys have all noticed, right, that the tide ends in the league now, even if it's a shultz, even if it's somebody who's got, like, protective gear on his neck to protect his, his head, that they all have the skeletal structures, the bone structures of monsters. Of monsters. Sort of a grog, right? Yeah.

And he's still the best of it. But the idea that nobody can cover Kelsey and I'm guessing you've stood next to him at Tahoe. You could explain to the audience when Tony goes to Jacksonville and his chief analysis is, holy shit, these people are big. And they're fighting over money and the science and technology is such that they can now be six, seven tweeners. Antonio Gates now is not a, is not a freak monster anymore.

Correct? No, you were no, no, but he's one of the originals. Antonio Gates, he is. I mean, we were talking about this yesterday, winning him and I, we're laughing about, in the San Francisco Dallas game, and I guess we will analyze this and we will continue from the comfort of our couches with Cheetos on our fingertips.

We will say while watching Wagner, I don't know his first name, the linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, he lines up. You don't know his last name, the linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers. He lines up, you don't know his last name either. Yeah, it's Warner, Fred Warner is his name. Forgive me, so Fred Warner. That's the best linebacker in the league. Yeah, it's my fault.

I feel terrible about that. You can use them with Bobby Wagner, who used to be the best linebacker in the league. That play we covered CD-LAM whole shit. Yeah, amazing. Okay, but the thing that I wanted to talk to you about, because he's on the line of Scremage, and then CD-LAM whole shit. Yeah, amazing. Okay, but the thing that I wanted to talk to you about, because he's on the line of scrimmage, and then CD-LAM is going down the seam,

and Warner is running right with him step-for-step, and we're all amazed by the athleticism of a linebacker being able to do that, and then Dag Press got, throws it, and CD-LAM could've caught it. Would've been an amazing catch, but it would've been a perfect throwing an amazing catch against amazing coverage. As we sit on our couches and are like,

after the, you know, our loft ski explains it to us in slow motion, oh, Tuy Hilton was wide open there. Tuy, a duck, why aren't you better? And it's like, oh, okay, that's all moving very fast. And every once in a while, guys are gonna miss things that look very easy to us, but everything that's happening out there is a bunch of extraterrestrials at the top end of science who are able to be whatever it is that my comparisons is

that can't be blocked unless it's by tread what Trent Williams who is stronger than any man in the universe. It's not moving fast for Joe Barrow. I can tell you that slow motion, even, little frog in the throat. Sorry about that. That play though, it's just insane. And I'm like, maybe T.Y. Hilton was wide open, but just the middle of that field, Fred Warner is in the A-Gap showing blitz and is running

at full speed and is able to cover CD-LAM. 35 yards down field. And yet, Dak Prescott still makes a reasonable throw low to the ground in a window that's about 18 inches and still manages to get a decent throw into CD lamb who unfortunately drops it. That was like just the high and it's why I thought that game was well played when Mike sure came on yes, that game sucked just because it was 1912 late in the fourth quarter. That game that game didn't suck. It was like incredibly high level and that clearly was just looking at CD Lamel game.

You honestly confused me. I don't know what you want out of football. You can play into the dolphins, don't score and then tell us a 19 to 12 game is a great game. I mean, you trust your eyes. What you want? What I want is high level and And like they provided high score. They provided high level yesterday.

The dolphins version of 19 to 12 is never high level. Ever. And you had Stefan digs complaining with Josh Allen. And then you have Tony Romo saying, look, I know in the replay, it looks like Stefan's open here, but he's moving it along his progressions. It's so fast. You can't get mad at these guys because they're just imagine trying to be a quarterback in the NFL. Holy shit, it's hard enough on madden. I asked Billy three days ago, or maybe it was four days ago, when did Ty Hilton end up

on the cowboys? I had, I had missed that. Just like Dak Prescott had missed it because what an idiot. Dak Prescott with that defense. All 11 dudes must look like they have cleavers are running at him an incredibly fast rate of speed. He says, you know who I'm going to trust here? CD lamb, not the guy I met three weeks ago that was discarded by the Colts, you know, because he done to T. Y. Hilton. I don't know what he is anymore, but that's a free agent. He's a cagey vet. Yeah, he's a cagey at the ghost. T.Y. Goodbye, if you will. Yeah, he was there because O'Dell Beckham, you know,

did know about his injury situation, and then there was an airplane thing, which by the way, that video, I felt like that video, someone exonerated him. I know that people said that video was like a bad look. I feel like he seemed like he was fine when the video started.

Now they were saying he didn't wear pants. Do you guys know what we're talking about? Does anyone know what we're talking about? Well, he fat-cham-someone, right? Y'all cheesetray at him. Well, okay, so he, before the video started, they said that he was like drugged or something like unresponsive

and then the cops got there. And he seemed very coherent and like in it. And they're like, well, he's not wearing pants. He's like, well, he's wearing pants. We see his pants on. And they're like, tell him to put on pants. He's like, well, they're on him. So I don't know what happened before the video, but during the video, he seemed to not be in this state. I think he went out that I before and was just, he fell asleep and it was in one of those states

asleep that wasn't able to the bad look in the video though is them saying, if you don't put your seatbelt on, everyone has to leave the plane. And he's like, all right. And then one that's a bad look. But yeah, whether you didn't look inebriated or that inebriated as it was. But I'll tell you what reports made it sound like my amigot, too. I'm that he was drugged in his seat. And when we saw the video, you could say, because we turned, Oh, no,

back comes been polarizing for a long time. So it can then become just simply, Oh, we didn't have the video before we thought it was drunk or drug departing. Now,'t have the video before we thought it was drunk or drug departing now we have the video Oh, no, it's just he's an asshole Class ago BJ not drugged though not drugged, but he was over as he was a run of the mill asshole He's like I'll never get off for you to that guy Listen never do it for you you want me leaves on staying in in OBJ's defense, which is a strange place to go. Yeah.

I mean, he was like in the first class where like you wrote in an apartment. Most of those people probably assholes, you know what I mean? Like they were probably like the worst of the people on those planes. So like I'm sorry that someone's talking to you in a manner in which you're not used to being spoken to. Welcome to society. All right. But when the pull it was again, put it on the pole, please add Lebed Doug show are all

the people in first class assholes like there's no super first class where you like apartment with bunk beds. I don't know. Orpheus with bunk beds. What is the fence of OBJ? I'm going to put it up in New York, all the people on a billboard, all the people who are in first class or assholes and see what that invites. Billy. Good. on a billboard, all the people who are in first class are assholes and see what that invites,

Billy, Billy, go. One thing I have to do for you upgrades. In OBJ's defense, the police officers in that video are just like, he seems fine, everything's, and they were like, they were, I mean, something happened before that, they were just like, it seemed in that video like, he should be fine, like he's fine, his pants are on, he was just sleeping,

like, let's just, let him go. The cops really work, kind of like, nothing, everything seems fine here. And so they were like, no, he needs to go. It seemed a little aggressive. They're like, we can't give a medical attention. There's nothing wrong with him. We see him, he seems okay.

Also, if this thing crashes, what is that seatbelt gonna do really? It's a good point, Mike. Billy, I'm not sure a lot of people are exonerating OBJ with that video. Oh, I know one is. I feel like I'm on an island here. I'd also like to corrects to you guys to say that's not a good point.

No, it is. It's basically saying, like having an ex-extendually saying what's a seat belt going to do is not good advice to give on a national podcast. Listen to me. Don't want an airplane. Tony Bezelley told us he never uses a seat belt on an airplane. Yeah, not buckload What is the seat belt going to do when your plane is crashing into the Atlantic Ocean? Keep you from

On a white ocean. You're right. I mean it's Turbill like what if what about turbulence? Why does that crash if it's turbulence? You can send you flying on the sea. Yeah, you have to think of the other passengers I know you don't want Tony Bisselli like a missile flying India before the great vision. I love to see the turbulence that can move Tony Bisselli. Put it on the pole at Lebedtar Show. Is there a turbulence that can move Tony Bisselli?

Hall of Famer Jason Taylor used to say, yeah, every game I go and I just get stuck on it. And I, that's it. The game was over. I, that's it. The game was over. I couldn't do anything. He was too strong and too big. It's Jason Taylor. But getting back to the thing that we were talking about of how incredible these athletes are and how comfortable we are saying, Dak, TY, because he was wide open. But these people have gotten so good that they've spoiled us. And I just imagine that there are 40 of those

of the game we're missing while watching that that that everything's moving so fast because it's not the celly size now but celi runs like wagner uh... i think that that christian wilkins i mean that there are all these giant people again i gave you tight ends who have the skeletal structure of monsters yeah everyone's moving at an incredible rate of speed. Dak Prasca, Prasca, you bum. You're not as good as my home and Rogers in that situation, okay.

But yet, but is his job to see that? Like, oh, you wouldn't say, it's like, yeah, no shit, I'm not the Cowboys quarterback and paid $40 million, like, he's supposed to see it. I know it's unreasonable, but it's one of his job description. Yes, he's trained.

My only point to you is, again, I will say, I will give you the perspective of Wagner's on the other side. And those, it's Warner. Every, every Jesus. As I'm watching Philadelphia and San Francisco, I'm watching two teams. Do you know how hard this is to do in the modern age? They're stronger than everybody.

They're more physical than everybody. Forgive Dak Prescott for saying I trust CD Lam. I'm panicked back here. I'm everything's moving very fast. How about you trust the open wide receiver, though? I mean, it's too wide hilton. It's not a rookie. Agreed. Stugats. Everyone's saying that he missed a wide over in receiver. I just like to see what you and I would do in that spot. You and I are quarterbacks in the NFL training for it or entire life. How about don't be panicked in that spot, Doc? Yep, and they like they're cool. There have been 12 quarterbacks in a row who have looked really bad against that defense. 12 in a row. My favorite was during that game

Brock Purti like rolled out to his left and was trying to find a receiver downfield. And after the play, they showed George Kiddell on the other side of the field doing jumping jacks. So I'm open. I'm open and gurgles since like pal, Brock Purti's 35 yards away from you. The other side of the field, stop doing, you're not open in the eyes of the quarterback. He's being chased by Micah Parsons.

Stop doing jumping jacks. Cody, your thoughts as a lifelong observer of the NFL watching these mutants collide and and arriving on a Tuesday. My favorite my favorite thing about sports fans in general is the easy criticism of athletes like you know that he stinks You know, we say that about like a the last guy on the bench in the NBA is a hell of an athlete, but we say he stinks. No, he's better than anyone you've ever seen play basketball. Yeah. And that's the same in football in your real life. I'm talking about if you went to a gym, you would never see someone that as good as Brian Scalabrini at basketball. Right. I will tell you though, Dan, that Jared Stidham lit that defense up. I mean, 360

yards, three touchdowns at two interceptions. That needs to be better. Sorry. Yeah, he went through the whole game. That one took them all that time. Where's that 37, 34 loss? I mean, he was looking for all the all the quarterbacks at the show me all the others. How what how did they do against because that's where two I started his slide was at San Francisco because the defense is really good, but Chris sins made it seem like he everyone was wide open in that game and two Was just bad like they figured something out against the 49ers, but two was just in Accurus a weird take I love the the fact that the Cowboys own Twitter site was critical of deck after that game. Did you read with what they were? I did. What was that? Let me see. I have it here in my notes where they said, I'm paraphrasing

here some form of after two costing us two costly turnovers. It was very aggressive language. It seemed to blame Dak Prescott for that. They basically, their own Twitter site basically said that was a winning, winnable game that we gave away by self-destructing again. Well, I think Dak said it's all on me and they took that article. I don't think they wrote it. They just posted it with their own headline. Well, but it's not just that stoo gots because you have, he did that. That press got says this is 100% on me, but I have not seen a company sanctioned NFL team

just send out what it is that the Dallas Cowboys did where it sounded like an angry fan was mad at that press got and framed it with blaming black black press got Dak Prescott in the in the headline. Well, Cowboys, Cowboys fans are fed up with it and they should be right. The jets have made three AFC championships more recently than the Cowboys had made one NFC championship. So have the Jaguars by the way. And they're viewed as joke franchises. The Cowboys are supposed to be serious.

The last thing they were in a conference championship was 1995. I found it. Here it is. Dallas Cowboys. Deck Press got that's five dollars by the way, Cody. Deck Press got when you miss a mistake Wagner's name. Why? Yeah, it's one of his actually. Yes, I did get a Warner wrong three times. Did not? Mm-hmm. So that's $15 and he's not black press got and so that's another $5. Yeah, well, five. That's another five. I think Warner one time is five. Tony's another five. Warner, the second time was my tone.

What's wrong with black press got is like 55. No, technically it was right. Dak Prescott gave away the ball twice in the narrow loss to the 49ers and a match up. That's not fair. It's not unfair, but when your own Twitter site says it, it comes off as very harsh. You're supposed to put the positive spin on that. I was reading an article and they said the previous and the tweets after that had like hundreds of thousands of views and that had like 1.4 million views. So like, it's the Dallas Cowboys official account blaming the quarterback as all of Dallas was.

While he's blaming himself. So he has to. I'm understood to God. I lighted the team does that. It's refreshing. Greg Cody's the one who brought it up. I know. Right. Greg Cody saying, did you see what it is? The Dallas Cowboys did from their official site because it's unusual for the official site, not to soak it in all sorts of propaganda. They don't usually do that to their top employees. And there was a lot of blowback from Cowboys fans.

Who didn't like it? Really? Yeah. I'm surprised. Oh, yeah. I understand that you're always gonna take the position. Yes, be as mean as possible to the athletes, but usually it's not being as mean as possible.

But it's not, it's honesty from a team Twitter account. It's not usually on the corporate logo though. You're right. It's not, that's what makes it. You're right. It's not that's what makes it. That's what makes it unique and interesting to me. I mean, you never see that. And here are the cowboys with old Jerry Jones who's getting, you know, millions of clicks. Doesn't care if tax feelings are hurt. Doesn't care if Mike McCarthy's feelings are hurt. Doesn't care about anyone's feelings because he's 90 years old. A trying to win

a Super Bowl. And that's all he cares about. It's it. That is so accurate. What he just said, it's one of the most accurate things he's ever said that Jerry Jones doesn't care how he gets the clicks. Okay, fair enough. He's not quite 90, but it still represents even with seven eighths truth in it. the most accurate things to God has ever said. Do you think Jerry Jones even knows what a click is? Like, do you think a day goes by where he's like, I need a click. I don't think he gives a shit about clicks. He needs rings. You don't think he cares about his team being popular even as his team is not as excellent as all the other teams.

I think he walks around. He's like, we still America's team and then someone says, yep, Jerry, and he's like, perfect. And then he keeps walking takes a sip of something keeps it going. And they still are though somehow, even though they never win. And though I always will be. They always will be always. Yeah. Always. Yeah. Always. There's certain franchises that are in bread in America. The Yankees are always going to be the biggest thing in baseball. Dallas is always going to be America's team. When was the last time they won a playoff game? They've won like three playoff games since the mid 90s. Two weeks ago. But there's still America's team. They've won like, how many playoff games

have they won since their Super Bowl winning years? Not many. It's a hand. I hand full of it. In the last 30 years, it's now, yeah, it's 30 years. In the last 30 years, they have been a very pedestrian football team, but they are the most famous football team. And so I would ask you this because Billy, I think you're wrong about this. If I gave Jerry Jones, if I could go back and do it all over again and say, Jerry, you're going to win one championship here, but you're going to be a fluke. You're going to be the Carolina Panthers, the rest of the time, the rest of the time, you're going to be in a relevant

franchise. They're never going to be talking about you. They're never, they don't care about your press conferences after games. The reporters don't care because you're in a small regional market and you're, you're Jacksonville for, for the last 20 years. He wouldn't take it. He wouldn't take it. I don't know. One ring. He preferred being America's team with no rings. He would. But he knows one rings. That's the thing. You don't get the biggest stadium in the United States. You don't get to be the most powerful owner. All you get to do is win one ring. You think he takes it. I think he'd rather be America's team. I think he'd rather be NFL's most powerful owner. But how far do I have to push it out? Two, three championships before, if I can, if I had to make him choose either or if

you guys think it's about winning because I don't, I think it's about being America's team. No, I think he doesn't know how Twitter works and he doesn't know what a click represents. But he has people telling him, it's not even about the clicks, it's about us right now on a major of relevance. We have upcoming great football. And what are we talking about right now? It's a nickname. It's like, but I'm great football, and what are we talking about right now? It's a nickname.

It's like, but I'm just saying, look what we're talking about. It's like, no one else can become the steel curtain. It's more than a nickname. It's a brand. It's not about how many views this post got. It's about the fact that we're talking about it to lead the show when we have awesome football coming up.

What do you think is the ratings on 49ers in terms of people loving nostalgia? Monster rating, Salas always rates really well. And there's this whole meeting machine that helps feed it. But I'd America's team is branding, you know? But the braves, we didn't vote at the polls to dominate that.

But the braves lost that. The braves used to be America's team when they were the only one on cable, when they were only, they gave it away. They squandered it even though they've won more, then the Cowboys have. That game drew 34 million plus on Fox. And it's the Cowboys, the Cowboys and nostalgia.

And I don't think that Jerry Jones cares as long as he's the leader of the circus tent. Like, of course, he'd like to win. That would be, he'd like to win. I just don't think it's the most important thing. Well, he wants to be the owner of the most famous team in football and arguably he is. And that's the phenomenon in sports that is interesting to me is that the LA clippers could, could be great for 10 years in a row. They're never going to be the Lakers in that city, right?

They're never going to be the Lakers. 10 straight titles. Yeah. Well, 10 straight titles. Maybe they're never going to be the Lakers in that city, right? They're never going to be the Lakers. Tenshtray titles. Yeah. Well, 10 straight titles. Maybe they're in the conversation, but the point is, it wouldn't take 10. I would say if they had done what Golden State had done over the recent years, they would have taken that down from the Lakers, even with LeBron in it. But I would argue that Golden State is not as big a national brand as the Lakers and probably never will be. I may be

wrong, but that's my view. I don't think the braids were ever the Yankees just because they were on TBS. They, the Yankees of the Yankees and the Cowboys, their brand has withstood 30 years of their relevance. That's, that's a pretty powerful thing because he's kept them relevant. It's his greatest talent. It's how he's risen to most powerful owner in the sport. Mike locally here because we've wandered away from the local stuff. That was sports man. Yeah. French, America's team football,

sports, skeletal structure, cheese plates, Fred Wagner. How many times I get that wrong? Black press, three times, three times, and black Wagner. Mm-hmm. How many times did I get that wrong? Black press, three times, three times, and black press got, and mystery crate. Yeah. He caught that hour, $100. Yeah, mystery crate.

$25. That's a lot of crate, so. You misspoke on mystery crate? What do you call it? You owe $5 as well that you haven't paid while I was paying too many fines. You know, $5 for your stock of money. I don't think there's any money in my brand new wallet I don't I think I'm out of money any photos in there. Yeah, we got a few photos. Let me check. Oh

Totally out of money. Oh, that's too bad. I can confirm. Yeah Thanks, Billy that's six dollars for not having a $6 and it's seven dollars for lying I have a 20 seriously No, no, no, no, no, no. We'll give you change. Here's what I got. Last just flew out of that wallet.

That last, it creaked as well. Squeak like an iron gate in the cemetery. I left a 10 last week. Yeah. Okay. No payback. That's right. How much did you owe though?

I owed five. Oh, so you're owed five. No, take that. You could take five. Just take the money that's on the console. Give me the 20. No, because I owe five. So here's my five. You can take the money that's on the console. No, because I owe five. So here's my five. That's where that was. Yeah, that is the way that that was.

That was the damn way. Yep, good job. You stole my inhaler. Yeah. Yeah. Well done. Yeah. Thank you.

So I'm like, someone stole your inhaler, you say? Yeah, a dance stole my inhaler. Why did you do that? I wanted to be by texting me a photo of it and had it upside down, which is the national distress symbol. And you have an inhaler upside down. That's close to manslaughter that he have died. That's right.

And now it's just about on zero. Me and Dan was probably using my inhaler while I was gone. Why would you do that? I was tested for DNA. I was just staring at the stolen picture of Mike's daughter as I did it. I've just developed this creepy vice just

stealing intimate objects from From people around we have a serial Defe in our midst. I'm gonna have this I will tell you the story of what happened Greg Cody who is deeply unhealthy left behind His inhaler and so I simply took a picture of it to show him. You told me. You might need this as it requires, you know, you require some help with your breathing. So I was just photographing something he left behind that is vital to his breathing.

You took it as he taunting? Yeah, like a, it's like a, if the kid napper, you know, sends you a note, you know, with cut out letters from a newspaper, that was the equivalent of what Dan did. Drive it home, yeah. Yeah, exactly. He knows you need it. Right, right.

I have a dozen inhalers at home, so it was cute that he sent me a photograph of one, but nevertheless, I took it as taunting. Teasing, don't swig your coffee after that. Why? Because you didn't do anything. I didn't, I'm, I, my, a sip of my coffee, which is never a swig your coffee after that why because you didn't do anything I didn't I'm My a sip of my coffee, which is never a swing

Not a reward He dano says and then takes a vigorous said I don't take a vigorous sip. I take a language Casual sip easy to it. Yeah, and it's not a reward. It's just you know, it's something. I enjoy coffee Particularly in the morning into the early afternoon. Take us up. Yeah, thank you. You got it. Oh, that's gorgeous.

Beautiful. Do you realize that for 30 minutes, now we might not have been doing good show, but we were doing show for about 30 minutes, and then you just decided to tell the story as if we were at the in the you know eating area mm-hmm about commentary. Many refer to it as a kitchen right eating area. Who calls it an eating area? Nobody. Nobody. Right. Eating area. What's the bedroom? The sleeping area? Is it the year? Let's hang on. I gotta go to the urinating area. I'll be right back. Eating area. What'll be right back. Eating area.

What were you saying? That you derailed the show. You're welcome. That you derailed the show because while we were talking an ostensibly doing show, not unlike an anchor man character played by Steve Carell, you noticed your inhaler next to you and decided to start talking about it just because it was the most recent thing you'd seen.

It came up. No, you brought it up. I don't recall how it came up. You stole it from him, right? That's red. We were talking about something else. You noticed your inhaler and you decided to just talk about the first thing that had come to your mind that had nothing to do

with what we were doing as a show. You were just distracted and thought, you know, I'm gonna wow them and entertain them now by just noticing something on the console and talking about it. It's all about spontaneity, Dan. That's the key to life. If you think it say it if you see it react to it That's my life lesson for the day kids out there listening take it to heart if you see it say it

Whatever I'm going to get into it. Yeah, I'm going to get a ride. I mean, notice the kids. I'm going to teach the kids. If you see it, please tell them. Teach the kids. You were really, we were about to be moved. What were you trying to teach the kids? Just to, you know, react to everyday life. You know, you see this.

And there's a lot to say about that. He's holding a highlighter right now. Yeah, the yellow highlighter. I mean, there's a lot to say about that. He's holding a highlighter right now. Yeah, the yellow highlighter. I mean, there's a lot to say about that. Is this the same thing that the monkeys mother invented? Or am I thinking so? You're talking about the band and the monkeys? Yeah. Yeah.

The drummer Mickey Dohns' mother or father invented either the highlighter or a whiteout. If you see it, say it. Exactly. And I always mix up the yellow highlighter with whiteout, I don't know why, but to me they're in the same genre. Anyway, I don't mean to distract the show

from whatever it was doing. So go a bunch of business. We said there was a lot to say about the yellow highlighter. So I'm waiting for the lot. Meaning you mean incredible background on it. Right. I know. I know.

Well, it's the monkeys. I'm surprised the highlighter has evolved and stayed relevant because it doesn't seem like you really need a highlighter. It was white out. Was it white out? Yeah, liquid paper. Yeah, spelled white and W-I-T-E, which was weird. Close.

That's another thing I hate is corporate, intentional corporate, misspelling of names. Except for Miller Light. Well, it took me a while to- Don't we love it? Yeah, we do love it. We love it. We love it.

We love it. That's delicious. The perfect beer for people. We love beer. Yeah. Yeah, but you have to get used to it. You gotta get used to it. That would have been a good place for the magic creative content right there. A fine place for it.

Mystery great. Don Lebertard. If you lob a 30 mile an hour fastball to a major leager, of course they're going to hit a home run. The worst major leager in baseball is going to hit 10 or 12 home runs under that format being pitched that way. Today should be throwing curve balls. No, what's your solution here? It's a fake event. It's like not even real. Still gots. Dad, you had a shooter all.

Those are my deck shoes of long standing. Real stuff in the middle. Real shoes right? Exactly. No, no, no. I am with you, Greg. What's wrong with that?standing. We love that number. We'll shoes right? Exactly. No, no, no. I am with you, Greg. What's wrong with that? He got me on that one.

VCC Don't Liberty Show with their Stu Gats presented by Draft King Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Mike Bryant locally, we have a couple of things that you are an insider on, whether it is, you know, messy and what's going on with the possibility of him ending up here. There's a lot of people are reporting different things about him. So let's start there because I want to get to some University of Miami stuff as well. Okay, I have got stuff on both those friends. So for Breitio Romano, once again,

tweeted last, last evening as he has, for a month now that basically messy to PSG is pretty much done and dusted. All that's missing is a signature. And that may be the case ultimately. And that's a weird thing about these, the reporting on this stuff. I only really get in the game when I feel like there's misinformation out there. I like to put it out to clear it up. There's very much negotiation with Inter Miami.

I don't necessarily, he's very interested in what Inter Miami have to offer. So the notion that he's basically done and dusted, signed off on PSG, then why is he still taking meetings? Why is he still actively engaged in conversations with Inner Miami? You could say, oh, it's just a dog and pony show

to drive up the price on PSG. How is Inner Miami driving up the price on PSG? This were about upfront money. He would have signed it a month ago. It's not about that. Inner Miami have a different opportunity in front of Lionel Messi. If this were all just a charade,

then why is he still in active conversations with Intermaiany? He remains interested. But the reporter reporting this is the most credible, correct? It's not just his biographer. It's a journalist who doesn't usually get it wrong. Right.

But if I may, I believe his sources to be tied into PSG and the Cattaris never lose these things. So I'm not surprised that there is a supreme confidence coming from PSG. They would have no reason to be unconfident when it comes to these. They never lost anybody. They can't be leverage. Is that what you're saying? They cannot be leverages. That what you're saying.

I mean, they can, but they don't lose. Like killing in Bapu was a done deal to Rayal Madrid for two years. Right. And then his contract comes up and all of a sudden he's staying and he's got all the power in the organization and he's making like a hundred million euros a year after tax. Like he, they always come up with the most money I saw you at five goals. Was that in a game? Yeah, yeah, I'll be it against a six. That has to be the greatest game in the history of soccer right?

No, he's ever scored five before. No, they have really yeah, they've scored more than that, but it look This is gonna boil down to I don't my mentions are gonna get dragged if Messi goes to PSG and that's not what I'm reporting. I don't know where he's going to go. It's a two club race right now. There was a very reputable reporter that covers Barcelona that said today, Lionel Messi, this was yesterday when he said, when he reported it, would not be signing his extension with PSG. So thankfully, another reputable reporter has come to my

own telling you is this is a two club race right now. Inner Miami feel very confident talks are going to resume this week. So they're in it. That's all I'm saying. Inner Miami is negotiating with Messi's camp and they feel like they have a strong proposal and the indication from messy's camp remains that he's interested my perspective is that when messy won the world cup and performed as well as he did uh... that increased the idea that he's not ready for his retirement home yet which inner Miami is and unless you dispute that

uh... insane cozy with david beckham he's just lining up what may happen in two or three years i don't think he's ready to give up uh... top level uh... soccer right now to go to mls i think he will eventually that's why i run into people applying logic why not keep playing at the top flight at bush i'd brush up against an ocean that playing in in the french league were killing bobby can rattle off five goals in a cup matches is the top flight played in in Europe and Champions League. You have a free pass basically when you're playing with PSG,

but it's not about that. His legacy is set as a footballer. This is about creating a new legacy, opening up a new market potentially, having a pathway to ownership and not just owning a club, but the actual sport here in this country. Miami's offer over time, I think is the stronger offer and PSG, though people may snicker at this, they are bound by some financial fair play rules. They can't offer exactly what inner

Miami is offering presently. There could be a wink and a smile and down the line. We'll will grease you up. It's a negotiation, but right now, through the laws of each individual sporting government here in the United States and over in Europe with you, if a Hermione have a unique proposal that has allowed them to continue these conversations. And for Brizio, a lot of his reporting, if you see it, has been based on conversations that happen in advance of the World Cup. There were photographs of Hermione contingents around Messi's box at the world cup final. Inner Miami has continued conversations throughout the last month, and

I am telling you, with 100% certainty, they're going to continue talking this week. I'm just saying they're very much alive in this. I think our only disagreement is that I would be shocked if it happened in the next year or two. I think two years from now. Yeah. Messi will be my... He loves Miami. You're applying logic from what I understand from Inter Miami. This opportunity, this unique opportunity that's presenting itself to Messi right now

is only available right now. You can say that's BS. You can say call their bluff, circle back in two years, that's fine. I'm not reporting opinion stuff. I'm just telling you, with 100% certainty, inner Miami and Messy's camp continued to negotiate, and it is a high level advanced negotiation. So your understanding is that inner Miami is giving an ultimatum to Lionel Messy? Not couching it now. I'm not couching it like that. I just say there's no ultimatum. It hasn't been framed that way. This deal as it's constituted with a pathway to ownership and a chunk of the sport here in this country is only available right now.

And if I were to give credence, just knowing what I know, they recently bought out an owner. This is a family that owns this. They have some minority stakeholders, but you can't have that ambiguity around these, these shares of this club for two years. You can't sit around waiting around for Lionel Messi. So I do think that that argument that this opportunity only is available right now. I think that argument does hold water. You're presenting the facts and it's, you're doing a great job in the reporting on it and it's fantastic I guarantee you and Lionel Messi it's available to him in two years as well I mean I think five years and it's seven years and ten years look if the Moss family wants to keep these shares open and And and not do anything with it in a sport that might stretch them financially

Maybe maybe you're right. I'm not I don't know enough about that specific detail. I would say, why not call their bluff if I'm messy? Why not do that? This makes all the sense of the world. Why would you entertain playing Real Salt Lake? Don't you want to play in the Champions League final? I'm just telling you, he is very intrigued by the lifestyle that Miami offers, the pathway to ownership that Miami offers, the pathway to ownership that Miami offers,

the legacy he can build in this United States because he can unlock this market if he comes over here. What's, nonetheless, it's the most impactful U.S. soccer transfer of all time. He can conquer America. You guys, Greg Cote ends to gots are probably, they're applying logic and cynicism, the obvious logic and cynicism as obvious logic and cynicism as casual people who aren't reporting anything they're just looking at saying it doesn't make sense for him to fall for the bluster of a cuban my amy gas bag

who's trying to make my amy matter right now but this is a perfectly my amy transaction where it's all this guy tried to buy the baseball team didn't have the money now he's got a golf course that's being turned into a soccer stadium. He needs to make this work now. It's a billion dollar bet. He's going after the biggest. It's a giant swing. And Mike is telling you from the perspective of reporting from here that they're confident. They kind of need it now. Not two years from now. But now you need it. The question is, does Messi need it now? I was, I was, I was, I was, I want it now. It may be irrational confidence coming from inner Miami.

And again, all I'm saying is they feel very much alive in this. And then the international reporting is that what they have, this is just, he's going mad. He's gone mad. But when he's extending his contract, he's going to PSE, he's extending it. But you have two entities here. The Qataris, you could argue, have

four more reason to feel this way, but the Moss family overcome several blockades, while the stadium has been labeled a tiresome debacle, they feel like that was a massive achievement. We got that thing over the line. We got the team. We got that thing over the line that when the team was about to dissolve and not actually happen, we came and we saved it. So they feel like they don't get many nose. So it's, it's a top level negotiation with two entities that don't get, that don't hear no very often. And right now, they both feel pretty strongly about that. I'm just bucking against the notion that he is off to PSG. If that's your opinion, fun. You could apply all sorts of logic.

I get it. Well, just telling you, he is not faking his interest in these conversations. As a seasoned ticket holder, I am hoping he comes here. I want to say that out in front, but this sounds like he's using Inter Miami to get more money out of PSG.

But if he were doing that, and I hear you, and here's what I'm gonna say, if it were about the money, why not use Saudi Arabia as a more serious stocking horse? They were offering him $300 million. It's not necessarily about that. He doesn't need the money.

I think what he is contemplating right now is legacy. If this were about the money, up front, short term, intermime, you cannot compete with PSG over time with equity, with percentage points, with rights fees. This could be a bigger bet for a Lionel message. His reported current annual salary is $75 million a year. Like PSG have, have the money. Like they do not need to be leveraged against. And also, if Miami will not be paying that to Lionel Messi, I just, they can't be cash. In equity, in equity, I just think it's perfect

for Miami to make the argument, it's not about money. Good, we don't have any. We don't, Mos, Mosquit, mosquit, mosquit, not for the baseball team here. A lot of this is, a lot of this is constructed. I'm not made, it, mos made a, what it is in hindsight, a pretty good business decision to not overspend for a baseball team.

We spend several local hours saying that, that Sherman made a bad, bad deal there. What I will say is, he's not gonna make peanuts peanuts here. He's going to be handsomely rewarded via salary. In MLS, you can pay a designated player whatever you want, and it doesn't count against the guy. But even still the all-time record salary for an MLS player is currently Lorenzo and Signe of Toronto making $15 million. So a fifth as much as Messi makes right now. Right. MLS has always been about financial responsibilities.

So then they're not going to go insane. Which is why they have certain ways around it. Which is where the ownership comes in. And over time, that may be this murder play. It's also about lifestyle and balance. There have been reports that he loves it in Paris. I've heard kind of the opposite that he loves it in Miami.

And his family wants to be in Miami. And his best friend from the Barcelona days, Sergio Busquets, I am reporting is in all likelihood going to be down here in Miami. So there's a lot of additional things for a guy that doesn't necessarily need the $75 million a year. If it were about money, he'd take the $300 million a year from Saudi Arabia. And if you go back to when David Beckham initially joined Major League Soccer in 2007, he was given the option to buy a team. That was the major carrot in him coming. At the time, the valuation on

that team was $25 million. And now MLS teams are valued for as much as $900 million. That investment, that decision instead of saying, I'll play for El Magidor, I'll play for whoever, at that time, was handsomely rewarded when he'd sold a large portion of Inter Miami to the Moss family and made 678x on his initial investment on an option in a contract. Which was initially a 70% reduction in wages from when he came over from Europe.

And it ended up being one of the great deals of all time for David Beckham. And that's kind of what Miami is presenting to Lionel Messi right now. I do think there's, this is cynicism on my part, and I admit it. But there's a little fatigue factor here because I feel like Messi to Miami is a conversation we've been having for three years now. Okay. We all think, I think it's an eventuality. I think he will be here in a matter of a couple or three years, but that it's good. I have that it could happen now is something that what you're

buying. Hi, you're the him winning the best player in the world right now. Right. With all the choice him winning the world cop gives him all of the options. Yes. All of the options. He did not have those. If I don't even know if he had those, if they'd lost on penalty kicks, if they'd lost on penalty kicks. Here's a fascinating thing about Messi and having all the options.

He didn't really seriously pursue Saudi Arabia. Only two teams are in the door right now, not even his old club Barcelona has made an impact in negotiations. He's kept this very close to the vest, and it's a two team race right now. So why? Why is he playing with his food? Brian Windhorse fingers, everybody.

If he were off to PSG, why is he entertaining this inner Miami thing? Is it because he wants to play with his food a little bit in circle back to it in two years and think that those shares are going to be there? Fine. I'm not here to tell you that. You know, Cuban gas bags very well. If he thinks that what we're offering you today is even available today. Never mind two years. If you can, if you're listening to this and you know, with 100% certainty, it'll be there available to him in two years.

Good on you. I'm not going to push back against that. I'm not telling you that. I'm just telling you what the reality is of these negotiations. Right. If we're making bets though, on whether that offers there in two years, I'm taking yes. Of course. You're in your dad. You're not in tweet. We're saying it to you. We're not going to offer you anything, Lionel Messi. We're playing in DRVP and K Stadium, and we have morals here. Yeah, but what Dan is saying is the money's available right now and it could be gone in two days. I mean, and that's Miami.

I mean, well Dan is labeled the Moss family as not being able to afford the marlins. So this is an ownership group that before the labeling them, they couldn't. Well, they turned down because they didn't have the money. Yeah, they didn't, they didn't want to pay that price for the, for the, the Marlin. While attending the All-Star game and sitting there, yeah, well, no, as a, as a manipulative device to make jeeter and a rod go crazy and make the price go up because the Cuban gas

bag who doesn't have enough money is sitting next to the owner of the team. So having said that, I'm going to use a very same logic. That's the reason why the shares wouldn't be there in two years. They had plenty of conversations with prospective owners beforehand. I think they have to do something with these shares. They have a controlling interest in the franchise right now. They bought that when the former CEO of Sprint left in a very ugly fashion, and narked on them to MLS, but they have to do something with this.

I've spoken to other people that have had conversations about acquiring those shares of this team. I don't think that they can just sit on them for two years. You can, you can call bullshit on that. That's fine. No, it's just so wonderful. Is a swing though. There's no plan B here.

It's just get the as a swing though there's no plan B here it's just get the best player ever right now and right now we don't have time neither we don't know we've got a stadium we just got the land we don't totally know never mind the money we don't know my amy will be here in two years i think that's fair every time i talk to my sources i feel like there's an absence of a plan B the so the plan is right now, we never have a plan B. Get the best player in the world right now. And be the guitarist. So Cuban gas bag, just give me all of it.

What's plan B? I know. What if they do it, though? Oh.