The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - DLS Classic: RIGZZZZZ

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

Join us as we relive some of our greatest hours of 2023 -- Tony says "we were stolen" after Bad Bunny didn't win Album of the Year at the Grammys. Amin Elhassan joins the show to discuss the Kyrie Irv...ing trade, what it means from a basketball perspective for Dallas, LeBron's emo tweeting, and where Brooklyn goes from here. Then, a scantily clad Tom Brady, the inner workings of eBay bidding, and Stugotz's Weekend Observations. Originally published February 2, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 your listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with the Stugat's Podcast. We have stirred a mean-el-hasenan to get basketball knowledge and information reacting to news. The story of the day and the weekend, Stugots is the basketball transaction a week that promises all sorts of basketball transactions and also billions to gods are headed to the Super Bowl. Jessica is at the Super Bowl. Amine is on the fringes of the Super Bowl trying to get into our coverage
Starting point is 00:00:45 and being banned at every turn. But before we get to Kyrie Irving, I just, I need to ask this question seriously based on the generational and cultural differences in this room. How many people last night, how many millennials last night are watching the Grammys and shocked that actors iced tea and method man and queen Latifa can also rap.
Starting point is 00:01:13 What was that? Was that a mean slap? Was that what that sound was? Tell me about the Grammys. I did not see much of it. I just saw Bonnie Rate in a victory for old people. Good for Bonnie Rate. Whoever that may be, by the way. No, no.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Good for her. You know what? That meant so much to Bonnie Rate. She was nominated. There were a bunch of people I'd never heard of, a couple I've heard of. How about this, though? The Beyonce Taylor Swift, another family. You were stolen. Hold on. Everyone needs to stop for a second.
Starting point is 00:01:45 We were stolen as as a country as a universe as a galaxy. We were stolen of making missing. We were robbed. We were robbed. Wow. Because three America's people, three America's. Yeah, I didn't win. Absolutely not. It was bad bunny. He should have swept the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm looking here record of the year. Alba the year he should have won. I don't know what record and song of the year. I don't know why that's a song. I think song is about the song thing. I'm looking here. Record of the year. Alba the year, you should have won. I don't know what record and song of the year. I don't know why that's a song. I think song is about the songwriting. You have one should have won all three. You should have been on a sweet. You have a Bonnie rate one. You don't know who that is. How do I, how am I supposed to know Dan who Bonnie rate is? To be fair, I don't know who Bonnie rate is either, but I don't, I don't, I don't flaunt it. I don't turn a microphone and go, how should I know? I just asked the question. I, that's Reba McIntyre. That's, that's Bonnie Raid.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Billy, you don't know who Bonnie Raid is. That's Reba. No, Reba, Reba, it's Bonnie Raid. Bonnie played Reba on the Reba show then? No. It's Bonnie Raid. Hmm. What a great, I'm not alone here. Okay. I, I will say that I it's unbelievable once found out Bonnie right by being 12 asking, who's that? Yeah. Put your old to the me though. Put it on the
Starting point is 00:02:52 plate. We had in different circles. Exactly. Unbelievable. Put it on the pole, please. It's it's disrespectful. I'm I'm here, Tony, for you just waving the flag that's never been waved around here before because Stugots has his flag of ignorance that he waves around proudly, but no one has waved it with this ferocity before around here. Put it on the poll, please, Jude, you at Levitage show. Do you know who Bonnie Rate is?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Legend. In what? Patrick Musick. I'm just asking. I'm not saying anything like she shouldn't have won song of the year. I've never heard of the song. I didn't know who she was. She did it at the Grammys.
Starting point is 00:03:25 That's what she, that's what she did. I mean, yeah, but she was the last person that they mentioned. And it was like, oh, and this person, she was the last person you thought was going to win. And she's full. But I never thought I'd ever thought of my life. I'm 16. I mean, but is it like lifetime achievement? Like why is the song good?
Starting point is 00:03:41 She won Song of the Year song of the year. It's a songwriting award. So it's not a 16 seed, though. She got year it's a songwriting award so it's not a 16 seed those two guts it's a traditional panel this particular game it is I mean that no one thought Bonnie rate was going to win that thing no one nobody I'm not ready for that's a fair that's right right there the other eight candidates split the vote it's how Trump got elected did you see Bonnie rates reaction Bonnie rate. Yep, totally surprised. Bonnie Raid was shocked.
Starting point is 00:04:06 She did. It should not be because the other eight candidates had music that was similar. And here's Bonnie Raid. She was three Grammys yesterday. What? The big year for Bonnie Raid? She won Song of the Year, Best American Roots Song.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Uh-oh. And Best Americana Performance. What does that mean? What does that mean? Americana is a subgenre of country music. Isn't it just country music? Yeah, you have me listening to Americana performance. What does that mean? What does that mean? Americana is a subgenre of country music. Isn't it just country music? Yeah, you have me listening to Americana, Dan. No, there's country music.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I'm listening to Baleo, Dan. There's a good one. But I get it. Moscow Mule didn't win song of the year as a crime, by the way. We were stolen version of Latin music. You know? Yeah, but still. But that's how country music works. Bluegrass, Americana,
Starting point is 00:04:47 full. It was stolen from us as a people. We were as a Hispanic people. It was stolen from us. Billy is five minutes. It's the beginning of the thing. That's crazy. Some people were stolen. Two Americans. Three Americans. I mean, Kyrie Irving, I really don't know where it is to start here. So what are the elements of this that you found most interesting? Because a lot of us have questions how the usage rates of Kyrie Irving and Luke are going to combine. Wait a minute, hold on a minute, Billy slapping his forehead wide. Tony seems to be arguing that Bad Bunny should have won an award that he was not nominated for. Exactly. Bad Bunny was not even nominated for some years.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Bishop to Rook 9, gentlemen. Check. Tony, go sit in the penalty I mean give us what it is that you found most interesting about everything surrounding Kyrie Irving the funny thing is so Dallas obviously they struggled this year there are roughly 500 team and they miss Dylan Brunson, right? They miss having that other guy who can create for himself and for others without the relying on Luca. They miss the guy who can come in with Luca's not in the game and and hold the fort down instead yet. And so we're like,
Starting point is 00:05:59 okay, they go out and get Kyrie Irving and they're like, no, that's terrible. That's an awful thing because I think, you know, and I was, I don't disagree with having those concerns. And the more I thought about the more I realized wise that Dylan Brunson was the exact right level of talented without bringing with it all the egos and trappings of a true star, at least last year, you know, someone who would essentially be offended by how he was used when Luke was in the game and demand more.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Dylan Brunson was good enough to basically to take it, to manage it, to be patient in that situation and make the best of it and also be good enough to make the best of it because a player of lesser talent would be like, like okay with it but then he wouldn't be able to carry the load the way Brunson did but a player with perhaps greater talent or maybe a greater reputation like Brunson then Brunson would be able to fulfill the duties would probably be upset thinking I can do so much more and I'm being relegated to this role. So Brunson was like the sweet spot for Dallas last year. Kyrie Irving brings all of the things that Dylan Brunson brought to this team last season that made them so successful. But the question is, is he going to be accommodating enough and then vice versa? Is Luca going to be accommodating and take a little bit of slack in his leash of control and allow for another superstar to be great out there. That's the most interesting
Starting point is 00:07:32 dynamic I think of this deal. I've got a lot of questions because you're just attacking the basketball of it here and there's a great deal more here but let's talk about the transaction. Among the reported offers, which did you think were better than the one Brooklyn took? I mean, I thought Brooklyn got the best deal. You got multiple picks in there, and then more importantly, you got players that can help you right now. Spencer Dinwitty, who's been in Brooklyn, they're very familiar with him. He's a good offensive weapon to have. He can bring off the banjo as a starter. He can create his own shot. He's, again, he's not Kyrie Irving.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That's clear. I mean, he's not even Jalen Brunson. But he's also not top-lever either. He was a guy in Brooklyn who was a fringe all-star at one point until he got hurt that season. And then Doreen Finney Smith, I thought, like, this is the guy who, if you're a championship contending team, this is exactly the player you want.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He's big, he's versatile defensively, he's a much improved three point shooter, and his contract is dirt cheap. He's either great if you're contending, or if you're not, he's great at the trade chip. So I thought they did well to help themselves in the now, if there is a now for Brooklyn, and then also in the later, if there is a now for Brooklyn, and then also in the later if this thing doesn't work out. I mean, you mentioned Luca and his willingness to maybe take a step back, a slight step back. Doesn't he have to, when you bring on Kyrie Irving, does it go without saying, if you
Starting point is 00:08:55 Luca, you're agreeing to take a slight step back? Yes and no, Stu gots. Yes, and everyone's sacrifice is easy on a paper, right? Everyone loves to sacrifice. Oh, I can't wait to come here and sacrifice. And then you have to actually do it. And you're like, ew, this is what sacrifice was. I didn't think it was going to be like this. Because players are creatures of habit. They're used to catching the ball in certain spaces. They're used to adding the ball in their hands, right? Think about Kyrie going to Boston, for instance. And at first, it was great. Everyone was like, great, like he can help this young team take that next step. But then he gets hurt
Starting point is 00:09:29 and then Tatum and Brown grow in their powers. And by the time Kyrie comes back, now it's crowded, right? They should have said, Oh, well, I'll take a step back, but they couldn't because it's like, you know, this is a little, a little too much talent and not enough basketball. Come to Dallas, Luca Doncic is the most ball-dominant player in the league. He has been the last couple of years taking over that mantle from James Harden. When you look at the usage rates, year by year, the last two or three years, he is the number one. He is apex, right?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Even going down 5% for someone like that is going to feel like a massive, a massive give. And my prediction is, at first, they're going to do it. Kind of like they did it in Brooklyn when James Harden got there. Everyone was nice and like to play with one another. But eventually what's going to end up happening is guys are going to be frustrated, especially when we're in what I affectionately like to call the gium cutting time in the playoffs, that's where all that sacrifice stuff goes out the window and guys are going to want the ball. And if they're successful, everyone's going to be happy. But the minute they're not successful, it's going to be, should have been me, should have had the ball in my hands. I don't know why we're messing around with this.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I got a couple of questions here. What is Chop Liver in a value situation? Do we need to update that phrase? So-and-so is not Chop Liver. Is Chop Liver super cheap? Is there something else that we can replace? Chop Liver with? And also, why did you go lagume there? What, I felt like that was unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Well, Chop Liver, let me just say right now, to quote the great Tim Meadows in walk hard to do a cox story. It's the cheapest thing there is, right? Oh, sounds pretty expensive. It's the cheapest one there is. As far as the Goon cutting, I came up with that honestly, that's an ESPN relic then when I couldn't say things like nut cutting time on air. So I had to be creative with my phrases. It's like when someone would say something obvious and I would say on air, no shittaki mushrooms, Sherlock.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Shittaki. You get it, Dan? It sounds like shit, but it's not too complicated. I don't understand it. Too hot for you, SPN. You look at it. He is the man from ESPN, Amino Hassan, front office insider.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We have a lot of questions for him. The net's management, not sending him to the Lakers. What did you make of that? LeBron, not getting him. What did you make of that? God, the LeBron tweet. Wow, man. Maybe it's me.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That should have been, we should have led with that. I have to my fault. You have to know what's most interesting that I had to my phone you have to always most interesting I give you a boring basketball answer Maybe it's me might be the most emo thing ever tweeted in the history of Twitter. I'm talking about everything I'm talking about even the emo kids when they're on Twitter. They have an emo emo tweeted as emo is that Maybe it's me. I felt legit sad and then I laughed so hard man Maybe it's me. I felt legit sad and then I laughed so hard, man. Um, look, but yeah, stop there. Stop there for a second because he is kind of heartbreak, heartbroken
Starting point is 00:12:31 that he can't get together with his old love to rekindle that old flame. It was fun. It's kind of funny to see how amazing that is left him. I mean, I mean, but I mean, it's not even, I don't even think it's just this person. It's just get me somebody anybody who's not Rui Hachimura. Please, can we get something with our two first round picks? 42 minutes a night or two first round picks were anything to anyone? Please, gonna star gum here. The, the, the reality is, uh, witty is, I think that's what that is about. It's like, this was like my last lifeline.
Starting point is 00:13:04 My last hope of getting something actual tangible talent in here and that one's gone. Because now you look around and now we're talking about Yacca Pearl deals and Ojiya and Ovi like that's just not, there's a drop-off with the Kyrie Irving and the next round of guys who might get traded. And I think LeBron, man, that's mortality
Starting point is 00:13:23 that he just looked at right there. We need to be clear about that. But it's not just mortality. It's also in the week that you're gonna break the scoring record. And you're now top five in assists as ESPN has an MJ day. You're whimpering out. Maybe it's me.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Like, it's, it's, he's in a mortal. Like he's one of, he's one of the best athletes any of us have ever seen. And never breaks for poor LeBron James. Man, he can't catch one. Then you're a well-read man. You know the story of Achilles. His mother dipped him in the river sticks and he came out invincible, indestructible, except for the one dry piece of him which was of course to the Kiles Hill where his mom held
Starting point is 00:14:11 him from as she dipped them head down into these waters. And so years and years later in the battle of Troy, he's out there, he just cut people down and oh, Kiles, he can't be killed, but somebody with a Paris got the scoop and then got his sharp shooters to hit a poison arrow right in that spot. That's LeBron, the end-ladies and gentlemen. He is indestructible. He's bigger, faster, stronger than anybody in the history of this game.
Starting point is 00:14:35 More points eventually than anyone's ever scored. Top five in the fifth, top 10 in rebound. He's going to be top whatever in steals. He is basketball perfection, except for this one little Achilles heel man. And that Achilles heel, he's got to say it with me. R-I-G-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z. He just doesn't have quite enough rings to beat all M.J. who has every corner of them. Yeah, it's very wordy.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I was just going to say Michael. You spell breaks. You spell breaks. That's a fine, too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fine too. Look how could you spell that wrong? Why didn't Achilles mom just like dip her hand in two like and I just have like a like an undistructed destructible hand.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I didn't understand that or go for a second dip to make sure the hill is covered. Yeah. Was Achilles a baby when Achilles was dipped because why are we dipping babies head first into water and holding them by their feet? seems like a bad thing why just hop in there with baby a kill is don't everybody's head in there and then we have two like people that are indestructible. Billy Billy this is my theory she wasn't sure about it they told her it's like I don't know so I'm gonna play it safe and this baby comes out as a skeleton then that at least the baby got away and I got
Starting point is 00:15:45 away with my hands intact. I think she was scared she didn't know how this thing was going to go. And then when it happened and it worked she was so ecstatic she just got sloppy and then finished the job. Does net's management deserve any criticism here? I don't think criticism should occur for today. I think the criticism occurs years and years ago when you gave the keys to these two guys. I mean, we all would have done it. I think most teams would have done it. Dan, do you think Pat Riley and Mickey would have done it? I mean, come on, almost everybody listening to this would have done that. For direct and Kyrie, yes, I think Riley would have done it. I mean, come on, almost everybody listening to this would have done that.
Starting point is 00:16:25 For Doregan, Kyrie, yes, I think Riley would have done it. Yes, yes. I don't think you would have. I don't think you would have. I don't think you're picking the one out of my, you're picking the one out of my, I mean, everybody would have done this. San Antonio wouldn't have done this.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I don't think Boston would have done this. I mean, I think there's certain organization where their management is good enough with ownership to say, these two guys are great, like franchise changing talent. We cannot see control, not because it's evil or you're going to be evil, franchises, whatever, but because in order for this thing to work, there has to be some measure of chain of command. That's not to diminish what these great talents bring to the organization board on the court and in the box office in terms of marketing,
Starting point is 00:17:13 but this thing doesn't work unless we accept certain kind of power structures, because otherwise, you are operating on wins. Brooklyn was a team that had worked its way from the absolute m to be in a position to add Kevin, Drank and Kyrie Irving. Yes, you go ahead and you can sign those guys, you sign those guys, but you cannot have a culture
Starting point is 00:17:37 where they're allowed to do whatever they want over and over again, and then be surprised at the end when we want. Again, I mean, you say that, but okay, 28 or 29 of the teams would have done it. Like, okay, you're mentioning the outliers. Most of the people listening, this, they did not have the ability to see this clearly. Most of the people would have wanted those two guys and done whatever it took to be, have those two guys on the team. So I ask you this question, where does this rank in terms of apocalyptic failures in team building to go to these lengths?
Starting point is 00:18:10 And James Harden figures out in five minutes, no, thank you. And then the whole thing goes apart. I mean, it's up there. It's up there. I guess with the Lakers of 2012, who had Dwight Howard and Steve Nash and gave up a lot of picks in that regard. It's up there, I guess, if you want to go to football with the Herschel Walker deal, the Dallas and Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I mean, here's a deal. Three years ago, if you told me Kyrie Irving is going to be healthy and averaging 25 or 27 points a game and shooting what he's shooting, and it's going to get traded for Spencer Dinnwitty, Dory and Finney Smith finish Smith and a first round picking a couple of seconds? You would have said, wow, what, what, what horribly, horribly wrong? And, and what, what the answer would have been, would have been so outlandish.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I don't think people would have believed it, but the reality is this, Tyree did not become a mercurial kind of unpredictable, unreliable guy in the last three years. He was this in Cleveland, up until Lebron got there, and then clearly behind the scenes was uncontrollable. He was this in Boston, and he was in Brooklyn, except that there was in Boston in Cleveland, there was some measure of control.
Starting point is 00:19:25 They could keep somethings under wraps. They could like handle it without fear. That you cannot operate in a place where the power structures operate in fear the whole time. And that's what the nets did. And so we saw it was just an explosion of all of this. Part of why Kyrie Irving went for what he went for was because teams are
Starting point is 00:19:45 like, I like him. I want him. He's talented, but I'm not giving up everything for this guy because I don't know if what he pulled in the last three spots is going to happen to me too. And I also think you can't underestimate like when Brooklyn does this. They have a new owner and it seemed like he was going to be paradigm changing. And no, no, the, the players are going to help be a part of this and, and his, his an experience there. But couldn't we also say this is a fairly unlucky experiment for Brooklyn too? Because the whole pandemic thing happened in the middle of it. And that
Starting point is 00:20:17 seemed to have changed a lot. I, I kind of wonder if you redo everything, but you get rid of that whole global pandemic thing. If this might have worked and worked rather well. Oh, Woody would retort to you the pandemic happened to 29 other teams and they didn't have this massive of a of a crater in their organization. The pandemic happened and it sucks, but it's one thing like why people say all the latest championship is a master's. What everybody was playing in a pandemic. It's not like they were playing in a bubble, and everybody else had to go on the road.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So, like, it's an equal playing field in that regard. How people were handled and reacted to it? That's up to them, man. That's part of it. I would say the unlucky part is the thing that what if we should have is if Kevin Durant is, where's the size 17 instead of a size 19, do they beat the bucks, do they house a hawk, do they roll over the suns, and are they champions,
Starting point is 00:21:11 and does that cover all of this? And people say, ah, they're crazy, but that doesn't matter, everyone get paid because we won the title. That's the what if question, because we've seen this in the past, and the NBA is like, the difference between, man, that very same postseason, think about this this in the middle of that net's buck series we
Starting point is 00:21:29 were already measuring out my book knowsers coughing and like and in turn taking Rick Carlisle on a tour of the facility though you like the drapes here is what you change if you want right that's how close it was to Rick Carlisle being the coach of the bucks because it was done and then of course the Bucks win and they win it in the next series and they win the championship and Bucks goes from on ICU on you know with the little beeping thing in the background to this great champion with the new deal and now your Bucks Bucks fine. That's how close it is. The opposite side of that coin is, what happens to the net,
Starting point is 00:22:06 that they're the ones who win, is Steve Nash, like with a new five year deal right now, is Kyrie Irving compensated with a max deal, no string of cash, right? That's just crazy to think that that's the margin. But it is, you know that. That is toe.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Kevin Durant's toe, the length of his toe. But I mean, moving forward here with this deal with Dallas in a conference that has, you know, Denver, Sacramento, Memphis teams like that, atop the conference. Sacramento. Are you going to be, it's amazing. Like, and you said that as if you're so happy, we live in a world together where Sacramento is relevant. Think about what you just said. I know. But those are the three teams.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Denver Sacramento. Are you going to be surprised? Like where could Dallas go with this deal? Could they make it to the finals? Yes. Then two years ago, if you got to, in a world where, I mean, the western Denver and Sacramento and I went to Memphis, it sounds ridiculous. Two years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I know. I know. And here we are. No, look, the Western conference is incredibly crowded. And the problem with the West is you named the top three seats. I'm assuming because you're just reading up the standings on md.com. And then the top three seats. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. No, I'm saying that's how you did. You read the first three teams. Of course I did. Did you think I knew that two minutes ago? No. But the reality is that the dangers don't stop there. The clippers are really good, right?
Starting point is 00:23:29 The warriors are really good. And obviously Dallas might be really good too with the addition of Kyrie Irving. It's so hard to differentiate. And I think what's going to happen the rest of the week, some of these other deals that are going to happen is going to give us maybe a little bit more clarity, but not a whole hell of a lot, because all of these teams
Starting point is 00:23:48 are within a handful of games of one another. And even the Denver Nuggets who have comfortable breathing room on that number one seed, they're still not indestructible. We know that this Golden State Warriors team when healthy is dangerous as hell. And we know that all that's been happening this year, you might look at it as a downside or, you know, they're struggling and whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:11 but the reality is all they're doing is getting those young guys a lot of experience, a lot of time so that when the time comes and everybody's healthy, those guys are going to be ready to contribute. Similarly, for the clippers who, by the way, we're in on Kyrie Irving as a deal, I don't think it stops there for them. I think they're going to make a deal. Maybe it's going to be from Mike Conley. Maybe it's going to be for someone else. And that has an opportunity to elevate them as well as obviously when their guys are healthy.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So I think the Western Conference, regardless, is going to be a trap for everybody. I don't think anyone in the West is looking at it and saying what Joss said, you know, a month ago or whatever, and he said, oh, nobody in the West bothers us. Quite the opposite. Everybody in the West bothers us. And Dremont Green says the same thing. We're not worried about anybody in the West. But can you just take me through what's happening with Memphis? Dylan Brooks seems to annoy everybody. And now there are reports about John Moran's family. I'm not even sure how fair those reports are. Can you tell me, can you explain to me what's happening around John Moran?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Look, John Moran is a good kid. John comes from a good family. He's got his dad while funny and kind of a character is, you know, a very decent human being. So, you know, anything about this, I don't know, I just read what you guys read. And if you're listening, you're like, what are they talking about? There's an alleged story that someone in Jaws Camp,
Starting point is 00:25:38 along with Jaws riding a car, following the Pacers after their game against Memphis and pointing a little red laser at the Pacers traveling party. Whether that was just a laser pointer or something attached to something more menacing is not clear, but that's the story that's going around. I've heard a couple other stories that haven't been reported that are around the same kind of neighborhood of
Starting point is 00:26:06 weaponry and things like that. Look, I don't know job personally. But there is also an investigation. Is there not? It's not by the athletic. Was it by the league and the behavior? Whether John Moran's family is menacing other teams or not, correct? There is, yeah, there's an investigation into the incident and whether there are any other incidents happening. Again, from what I know, from people who know Jostam and I've obviously spoken a job before and I dealt with his dad a lot like, good people, man. These are not people who come from a background of problems like that
Starting point is 00:26:49 If that stuff is happening by the way Dan it wouldn't be the first time in this league Let me give you a name again. I'm not trying to compare these two people But I'm saying it wouldn't be the first time Javaris Clinton who is in prison right now for having committed murder or been part of the accidental shooting and eventual death of a young mother in Atlanta. DeVaris-Critinton went to a really good private school. He comes from a very good family. He got in a Georgia Tech, not just because he's a good basketball player because he got good grades.
Starting point is 00:27:20 He's a good kid. He gets out to LA. He starts mingling with the wrong crowd because you're in LA and you know, you's a good kid. He gets out to LA. He starts mingling with the wrong crowd because you're in LA and you're a kid from Atlanta and all of these influences are out here. And next thing you know, he's part of what was basically gang related behavior and he's in prison. All right, and that's not counting also the gun thing
Starting point is 00:27:39 with the Gilberterinus and all that. But the reality is these guys, no matter how they grew up no matter what background they have they get to the league and they are introduced to other elements that are around this is not new this has happened all the way going back into the 70s there are always undesirable elements that hang around the have access and some people are swayed by that i'm not saying that's what happened to maran i'm just saying, if it did, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened in our league.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I mean, good talking to you. Let's see if we talked to you later this week at the trade deadline. Thank you, sir. I hope I have my laptop because my arm is numb right now if I'm holding my phone up. All right, thank you.
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Starting point is 00:28:45 It's my good son. The crowd is the sing piano man. Yeah, but I want to hear Billy Joel sing it. That's the most of it. They just let you at the end go. But do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. She just wants to be nominations. That's what she wants.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. Yeah. She wants to rack up to be nominated. I'm trying to. He's rocking out rock. Big Billy Joel's piano. You got it. It's alright. This is the Don Limita show with Estoo Gats presented by Draft King Sportsbook
Starting point is 00:29:12 an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Download the Draft King's app and use code L.A.F to get in on the action. We're going to get to Stoo Gots this weekend observations in a second, but I should tell the audience that tomorrow on YouTube we will be debuting our music video. I have only seen small portions of it. A music video will be debuting as Stugots and Billy head to the Super Bowl. God bless football is going to cover us there.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I really hate this week. I just don't be fine. Dan, we're kicking off Super Bowl week the right way. I don't know if you saw Tom Brady's Twitter and if you want, I can just wait. Well, you go look at Tom Brady's Twitter. Now, let me have it. So I guess Tom Brady, I don't know if you saw, he has a line of clothing or whatever, right? And back in June last year, he said, if this gets 40,000 retweets, I'll recreate this photo. And it was a man posing in Tom Brady underwear. So Tom Brady has recreated that photo this morning covering his hands, covering his, you
Starting point is 00:30:19 know, penal area, but the background, I mean, I'm not even in all area. Yeah. Yeah. Is that not it? I mean, winning him would just say penis covering his penis. Penal colony. Mm-hmm. The background is great. I would say Well, tell me more about this photo. You're breaking news that just go go to go to Twitter.com But in Tom Brady, you can see it. I don't want to see. I'm gonna ask you. I don't want to see it. Yeah, it looks great He's here is very dark. I want to see. I'm gonna ask you. I don't want to. He looks good. Yeah. He looks great. His hair is very dark. I want to be where he is wherever he is. It looks great.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Mike Ryan has said his hair is actually white that it's Kenny Stabler's hair. I think he's right. Yeah. And it looks like Dexter. Kind of looks like Jacelle a little bit. Right? A little bit. Huh. It's sort of looking like he just. But the background Dan, the palm tree is the ocean or get me there. Well, explain to me. He's totally coming back. Explain to me what is happening with the situation on eBay where someone has actually bid $90,000 on the sand that was near Tom Brady when he made his retirement.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I should have thought of that and ran over there and grabbed as much sand as possible. There's always somebody that has stepped ahead of you. We correctly identified the beach on, it's not on South Beach, it's a bit north of here, where his video took place. We identified it almost straight away, but I learned from our cards with Mike Schursegment that there's difference between what something is put up for sale on eBay and what it actually sells for. So, no.
Starting point is 00:31:45 No, these are bids. But this is an ongoing auction. I wonder, like, how does eBay work? Who can explain how that works? Because what do you mean by that? Well, there are auctions and people bid for sale. Yeah, but no one is gonna actually pay $90,000 for that sand.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Would you put the bid in your, your obligatory? No, I don't think it works. There's a legal obligation bill in there. Really? And then they go and you're like, oh, well, my checking account has $27. So I've just in the whole. I'm not saying the vetting is great. I'm just saying you have some sort of obligation.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't think so. I don't think so. I think he's asking, how strong is the obligation? Is somebody going to come knock on the door, be like, exactly? You'll meet $90,000 for the sand. Like the person that put an $87,000 as a joke and he's like, please, please, please, someone outbid me. And then it got to 90. And then 90 is also a joke. So then do they chase down the person who bid $87,000 because these things always get to outrageous prices. And you're
Starting point is 00:32:37 like, this will never, no one will ever pay this money for this. Why would you be doing for a splash mountain water? Billy, they have to. Or or like you're, you know, you'll go bankrupt splash. He is a witness so upset of the notion that you would make a bid and then that honor the bid. He is. I don't have to like you agree to the terms you place a big. You give your credit card information. It ducks. It deducts $99,000. in your account. No. Stugots is laughing at your end pointing, said at the very idea, look at Winnie, how cute, thinking someone has to abide by their word. He's adorable.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He's adorable. Say like, Stugots is looking at you fool. Hey, you just tell people, yeah, I got this money and then you never give it to them. And sometimes you get your leg broken by somebody saying, this turns out to be like, ah, whatever. It's like any other online Commer store you put your credit card in you go to pay for something and then when it comes on to pay you pay No, no
Starting point is 00:33:34 You think there are people flaking on eBay bitch I would love to see the world through your eyes just for a day. I really would I don't know what I don't know Who is right here? I want to believe in the world. Oh. I really would. I don't know what, I don't know who is right here. I wanna believe in the world. Oh, what is right? I mean, you wanna believe in a world where it's so wrong. You wanna believe in a world where someone's legitimate who playing $90,000 for sand.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I wanna believe in a world that if you bid $90,000 for sand, there are consequences that you can't just bid $90,000 for sand. And, and ha ha, you walk away and it doesn't cost you anything. Just finger guns. Uh huh. You don't get the sand though. That's the consequence. I mean, so I mean, now here's a question.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Because like if I bid $90,000 and I got stuck having to pay $90,000, well, I can't expense it. But what I would say was, I would say, well, I don't feel comfortable paying this, that stolen property. Like this person doesn't own this thing. And it's not stolen property. It 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:33 No, it's not. Just like ducks, you can take it. I wouldn't trust Tony on this. Why not? It depends on where the sand is. I'm sure if the sand belongs to somebody and then you sell it for $90,000 off of someone's land I'm guessing that they have a legal claim given that it's their land. This is just beach sand though
Starting point is 00:34:50 This is a really absurd thing to be going for $90,000 and I think it's just because money doesn't doesn't Money's not a thing that it used to be That currency is falling apart there are halves and have not and there are a lot of people out there who could flippantly throw ninety thousand crypto dollars at something and the crypto isn't really crypto because they want to be internet famous for four minutes
Starting point is 00:35:19 so there's policies on shield bidding at ebay but this is more so in regards to employees family members people who know the seller jacking up the price and putting in fake news so that they get more money for it. We're going to get to Stu Gotts' weekend observations in a second. I can't believe a mean misspelled rings. How did that happen?
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Starting point is 00:37:03 God, it's heaven. I mean, look at Billy. Billy is all it's heaven. Billy does not want to get on a plane. He's got a rush out of it. I don't on a bird. Is it too late? Yeah. He's going to spend the whole week trying to wrangle
Starting point is 00:37:16 Stu got. I think we're right next to Tony Bruno. No, we're not. I'm pretty positive. Legend of the game. And no one in the history of sports radio works it like me and Billy Gill. Dan, it is super bowl week. Billy, why are you shaking your head? It's Arizona. Billy, why is this a
Starting point is 00:37:36 stuff for you? Because we're at the portion of the planning where you don't need to work it anymore. Like, let's just follow through with the play. It was already planned out. Just stick to the schedule and we'll be fine. If anything We already have too much scheduled. The plan always changes Billy. That's what radio row is all about. And just like that, Dano. Radio row is back. I mean, Billy, one second you're talking to, you know, Gil Brant, the next second you're talking to Mike Gulligan, Jaws. That's what it's all about. He's not wrong because like, I'd like these things just to be locked in, but then like 25 minutes ago, they're like, do you want Debo Samuel on Wednesday? Not going to say no. Billy, just when you think you have the answers, radio row changes the question. I mean, how about that? I think he's promoting like Wells Fargo or something.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Like a band? Don't watch. I mean. No. It's, I don't understand why you guys like this so much. You gotta go next. Dan, go with us next year. Billy, you don't wanna go.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I know. Next year's in Vegas. Vegas. Vegas. Vegas. Go with us next year. Oh my God. Vegas.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Billy, you don't want to go. That's true. I don't. It's a business trip though. There's Dan, look, you started a business in the pandemic. I'm sure there's things that you don't want to do. And this is one of them. We got to do things just to keep the train on the tracks.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You know what I mean? Yep. Next year. I hate everything about this week. Everything. Top five radio host. Who know how to work radio around. This is all Todd. Do you remember when you wanted the whole show to go to Australia for this Super Bowl to get as far away from it as possible. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Who was it that was making the comment? I thought we might be able to get away with this week never mentioning it. Like just talking about other things and never once mentioning the Super Bowl. Number five. Kevin Rogers. Oh, okay, Raj.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Little reminder, Mike. Do you have that, Mike? Do you have the sound of carage on radio row seven p.m. at night just shouting into the halls of convention center uh what else we got um oh my god rate Lewis is here can we get rate Lewis in the show before my tongue falls off? Ray freaking Lewis in the house. Wow. Hey, Ray, you got a couple minutes. Ray. That's it. Uh, whatever. Ray Lewis walks in, and my tongue is bleeding. Wow. That's not even the one I wanted. I want it. Lincoln Kennedy. Do you have an all-time favorite Vincol-E-ism? What's that? That's a Brian Cranson on Vincoli. We'll get to that later in this show.
Starting point is 00:40:28 We'll get to that later in this show. Like Kennedy, what's up, man? Yeah, I'm working. Where you going? You on the A-F-HM party tonight? You going to F-HM tonight? All right. I'll see you later.
Starting point is 00:40:39 That's so great. We actually have the guy calling the game in Australia this year, Dan. That is true. Steve Levy. Leaves. Number four. Mike Gollick, senior. This man knows how to work it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 This man knows how to pitch a product. I mean, I got it. Are you jealous that Jessica's going to be hanging out with him all week? Totally. Not really. Dude, Mike Gooliag is gonna, I don't wanna put anyone's business out there. He's gonna make more this week than I make in three years.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Just wandering around doing interviews. I think he has eight products. Eight. We started an interview with Goliag. He had four products to pitch by the end of that interview. 20 minutes later, it was up to eight. This guy, Number three.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Sid Rosenberg. Sid the kid. Number two. Christopher Mad Dog, where is so? You're gonna have him on God Bless Football, aren't you? Five times, we got. I saw two eyes on the list. Number one.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Me. I can't wait. If you go. Yeah, we'll see. saw two eyes on the list. Number one, me. I can't wait. If you go, yeah, we'll see if you catch your flight. Each time you come. Dan, as long as there's an NFL, there will be a job for Brian Shottenheimer. Enjoy this week, everyone. And don't take it for granted. You included Dan because soon it will just be baseball at Joey Chestnut. That's it. I'll say yes to him July 4th, Stupatity. He'll come on. It's a staple. It's a tradition unlike any other. But I'm telling you telling you we're gonna be left with just
Starting point is 00:42:25 baseball and I'm talking to God does I know a day of the year it is on the basis of when we get the pitching meal for Joey chess and and and the tradition like none other asking Joey Chess and hey, what are your shits like after you eat all those hot duck? I ask him that every year. That's a good question What else do you have to do the thing is you asking that every time and what's his answer? You haven't listened once I've no idea. You haven't listened one time. It's almost like it gets more boring every year. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll take him.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And I'll also enjoy this week, man. Like, big football game, NBA trip, day gone. Ask him a few questions about Tom's or whatever. You know he's going to be there. You got to. No, we are no. We are. I mean, we have to have him on. I played Joey or no one tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:43:34 God bless football every day from the Super Bowl. LeBron James compiler all time leading score four titles. One in a bubble. Second all time leading score four titles wanted a bubble second all time leading score six titles Karim wins I think we've changed the game to noe yes nut. Is it a noe? That's what we're gonna send in there for The questions are already changed.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Follow what's on the paper. I can't. Billy, you're not going to be able to corral him. He's just going to defecate content all week. Billy, no, we yes not. I mean, he's just going to wander around talking to everybody and then just go to the parties and leave behind you to edit it all. I can't wait until Billy says it to God. We have nine minutes with this member of the Baltimore nine minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And Stu got his minute 22 of knowing your yes, nut. Kevin Durant, you really know how to pick them. Brooklyn Nets, you're better off with Adam. I think. I don't know. It's a balloon. Shoot at the f*** down and let's move on. Top five people in sports at entertainment that canota balloon. Oh no, this is not going to go well for me. Oh, okay, it might not be shape related. Let's see what we've got here. Number five, Vivian Stranger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Got it, Tom. Good. The string. Yeah. Number five Vivian Stringer Got it. So it's the string. Yeah, it's hard. It was hard to come up. I wasn't hard I thought it was just another person I didn't know number four John popper It was hard number three Jeanevian Clowney Number two, Curtis Blow. And number one, Helio Castro Nevis. Billy, why are you shaking your head?
Starting point is 00:45:56 We turn around and said if he doesn't do air Jordan, he failed. Oh God. They shot it, dad. I thought he was going to go Louis lips. Louis lips. My list. Yes, I agree. He was good. Thank you. I regret, though, Air Jordan. This is what happens when you take football away from me. And us, we pay attention to a balloon the entire week.
Starting point is 00:46:31 What are we doing in less than a year the net's what from Kevin Durant Kyrie Irving and James Hardin To Kevin Durant Dory and Finney Smith and the Curry brother no one wants Whoo, no, I mean, damn they did What's wrong with Seth Curry? Why don't you have Seth Curry? I'm one of the best shooters in the league. Hmm. Okay. She was like 40% from three. Yeah. Okay, he thought I'm sorry, Seth.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I had no idea you had these kind of feelings for him. I mean, just don't understand. I mean, he'd be a great basketball player if not for the existence of his brother. 47% from three last year. It's great. No one wants it. I thought he was the missing piece in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So did I. I thought he was going to be the shooter that they needed. You know what else happens when you take football away? Mo Bomba at Austin Rivers, getting the first real NBA fight since the mallas of the you know what else happens when you take football away mo bomba and austin rivers yet in the first real nba fight since the mallas of the palace i'd i'm nothing will make me feel older in basketball then both of those guys immediately going to social media afterward to
Starting point is 00:47:37 to take the trash talk to another level and austin rivers uh... saying threatening to chalk out mo bomba not choke him out. Chalk him out. What's what is that? I don't know. What is that your professional basketball players? Are they?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Your dad played in the NBA. You went to Duke. Dan, you know what the B in Mo Bomba stands for? I do not. Brawler. Austin Rivers claiming one of the few NBA cities he hasn't played in as his city. Austin, the stuccoch is strong in you. How was Orlando Austin River City?
Starting point is 00:48:18 Well, because his dad coach there. I mean, he grew up in Winter Park with the river. Okay, there you have it. No, Austin Rivers is not allowed to have it. It is weird though, right? To go to social media and start threatening each other on social media. No, what happens? Yeah, it's weird. Dream on went to his podcast to talk about all the shit that he started last year. When did that start? That it's a strange thing, an NBA fight ending with both guys ending up in their social media still talking shit. That used to happen next to the bus.
Starting point is 00:48:56 The Grammys have become an annual celebration of Beyonce and Taylor Swift. As if no one else out there is making music. Please. That's right. I stepped into the B hive. No. And took all the swifties out. No.
Starting point is 00:49:14 At the exact same time. Unwine. Dangerous game. Unwine. I'm tired of this celebration every year. No, no. Oh, sir. No, Johnny Ray.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Good for you. Choo-choo. Don't clip that. Choo-choo. He doesn't want that smoke. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, at an opposing team's guard who is Ukrainian. Sean Peyton fired the Broncos defensive coordinator. You know what he's doing, Dan? Cleaning house. Yeah. Wow. Look at you. Amazing. Dan, don't look down. But the college basketball season gets underway in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And a few weeks after that, it ends. Watch out for FAU, the owls at a conference USA 22 and 2, 12 and 1 inside the conference. Dusty May, one of the great young coaches we have in America, tearing up the blue martini, enjoy him now, Bokka, He won't be there for long. Balance deep team. Nine man rotation. And of course, experience guard play. Yeah, savvy and make nights. We got our team junior guards 60 to the half points per game.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Emanuel A. God, senior guard play, Dan, 10. point seven points per day. Dan, don't be surprised if the owls find themselves. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, is Jim Bayheim claiming they bought their team to. He has a apologize. Jim Mitch in Bayheim Mike Ryan was counting was looking at his watch thinking to himself when he was going to walk it back because everybody was going to go to Bayheim in
Starting point is 00:51:15 Syracuse and say, do you know how much dirty money we paid people over the years? Please shut up. Dan, you know what the D and dusty may stands for? I do not definitely renting Seems like Joe S.I finally had enough one might say he was Joe S.I. himself No No, so proud of that. No Got a couple of points. No
Starting point is 00:51:51 You have diluted the worth of the he came next laugh by giving it there. Just side of the side himself. Come on. Better the second time. Bad ally, bad ally in Tony. The laser from job. Moran's out to rise aimed at the Pacers was really just coming from Moran's eyes. He's fun to watch, man. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:52:12 What's going on there, though? Well, it's if it's just fooling around with lasers. Okay. If it's just go to social media and complain about it, like everyone else. meeting, complain about it, like everyone else. Report. Suns to pursue KD. If he becomes available, my report, it still won't be enough for Chris Paul to what a title.
Starting point is 00:52:34 And even if he does, it won't count in my personal record, but really, you're already announcing that not for CP three. No, he needs KD now to win him a championship. Devon Booker's not enough. Jesus. It's never enough for that guy ever Luca wanting to beat the holy hell out of Kyrie inside of a month Collusion course speaking of hell or prials Dan those are the weekend observations Side himself Those are the we get observations So I themself Hello, Mike
Starting point is 00:53:13 Hello everybody how are you I? Have a new microphone has a sound I said where was that sent to you by metal arc media? It was indeed. Wow looks great. Looks great and sounds great. Yeah, go ahead. Fantastic It was indeed. Wow. Looks great. Looks great and sounds great. Yeah, go ahead.
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