The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - DLS Classic: The Nautical Casket

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Join us as we relive some of our best hours of 2023 - Dan and Mike are hyper-focused on the tourism submarine that is lost while looking for The Titanic. We're all worried about Stugotz, and Billy doesn't understand how he's been put in charge of Stugotz's life...Is he doing whippets with Dead fans? Plus, Michael Malone sounds like Fred Durst and Chris Paul is hurt after being traded from the Suns. Originally published June 23, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Skip Schumacher's gonna join us later in the show. He's going to come into studio to talk about the Red Hot Marlins as if we haven't bored you enough with syncing into the Beale Schmiel quicksand.

We're now going to go and attack the 11 games over 500 Marlins team. This is like the second best they've ever been at the halfway point of a season, even though they've won two championships. I can't wait to just see him in person. I've heard he's really jacked. He has ripped skip. Yes, he is absolutely that. And he's a former player who I will tell tell I don't know that you could have played today because everybody just hits home runs. And you would have had to hit more

home runs than the home runs that you hit. Not these marlins though, Dan. Not the small ball marlins. You would have fit on this team. But before we get to that, there are a couple of other things that I want to get to, including a horror that is, if it hasn't already captured the country

and the world soon will, because a submarine that was just sent out to study Titanic wreckage has been lost. And I think all of us connect with the idea of, wait a minute, I'm a tourist and now I'm randomly lost at sea. Mission specialist. And what it is that, I think Greg Cody was calling

a nautical coffin, what did you call it? A nautical casket. I prefer the word casket to coffin. I always have. Look, I would. Thank you for telling us that. I wish these people well, but what a dangerous thing you're volunteering yourself for,

not to mention pricey. Wow. A submarine? Yeah, this is, if we're talking about the same thing, this is one of these little five-person cocoons, right? It's small. I don't think of it as a casket, a coffin, or a cocoon until you get one that can be lost,

which I didn't think was a thing. I didn't think that we could just misplace something that's going to search for Titanic wreckage and that that one thing would have four days worth of oxygen in it. I would assume that something like that is safe. I think of, which do you think of as safer, right? Surgery is dangerous.

I think of surgery is more dangerous than just going down in a submarine because I don't expect most submarines to be lost at sea or to sink. I'm expecting them to, I'm trusting them. Put it on the pole. What would you rather do? Go into surgery or go down below our in the submarine. Put it on the pole at Levitard show. What is more dangerous? Surgery or traveling in a submarine?

Two miles down. Hands on the surgery, quite frankly. I think all surgery is dangerous. Not really. If I have a, you know, umbilical hernia surgery, that's minor. If they open my chest cavity and try to repair my heart valve, not so minor. Okay, yes, there are levels of surgery.

They're degrees. I'm just saying, I would rather go down on a submarine. You could also go only 10 feet deep in the submarine, yes? Let me ask you this question. How do you think more people have died? And submarines are in surgery. Submarines. I'm on it.

No, kidding. Surgery. Percentage is guys. Percentage is. I mean, this is only the fifth mission for this whole particular brand. But when you trust a tourist outfit, like you're assuming you're coming to...

Did you see the details about this submarine? It's controlled by a PS3 controller? Hell no, I wouldn't trust that. You kidding me? I wouldn't fly over the Grand Canyon and helicopter. Get out of here with that. I've been captivated by this story. There's just something about the Titanic, a hundred years approximately after it's sinking

and we're still doing tourist tracks down to the bottom of the ocean to see this majestic wreckage. And right now, there are people missing. And this is a crucial day because apparently you can survive for 96 hours in the submarine that is equipped with a bathroom and apparently had internet, but all communications ceased shortly after it got sent down. There's a working theory on the internet that the sub itself might be lodged inside the Titanic wreckage. That would be crazy.

And all I'm here to tell you is, James Cameron has been working his entire life for this moment. So Mike, as the world's foremost expert on this mission... And on everything else. Yes. Well, thank you. Thank you. Is the person who's driving with the PS3 controller are they inside the submarine or are they above the water? Above the water, thank you. Thank you. Is the person who's driving with the PS3 controller, are they inside the submarine,

or are they above the water? Above the water, I believe. So there's no captain inside the submarine? No, there's a mission specialist. There's five people in there. That's what they call the Dan May the... He david's in one of them. Dan made the mistake.

No, he's not. But the people on it. Is that what's the space for you? Just send random celebrities? Well, this guy's actually, one of the guys has actually been a space. He's a daredevil billionaire, Hamish Harding. Hey billionaire, you got it made.

What are you doing going down to the submarine in the Titanic? Seriously? You don't have to worry about anything anymore, go buy a private angle, hang out. These names do sound rich. Hamish Harding and Shazada Dawood. Oh my God. Yeah, those are reported amongst the missing. And today's a very crucial day. I don't even know how, like, say you even find the sub.

Then there's the whole deal of rescuing it. How do you bring it to shore? It all depends. If it's actually lodged inside of Titanic, how do you go about navigating that two miles beneath the ocean surface? This is a fascinating rescue mission right now. It also makes me wonder aloud, how is any of this allowed? Like how are we just allowing? International water, though, Mikey. Well, I guess that's the answer. That's how it's allowed.

But for $250,000, you can afford a spot on these subs that take you down two miles beneath the surface. And this is one of the risks. One of your questions is about licensing. How does this get licensed? And another, because you're speaking of this with a certain detachment, it is fascinating and you're making my stomach hurt when you talk about it because I believe the reason that one of the reasons this story resonates with people is because we can

all imagine ourselves even if you don't have that kind of money. Wait a minute. With a tourist extraction, I could with a tourist attraction, I could end up being in the worst kinds of horrors where America is captivated by my story because I'm literally running out of air. Right. Two thoughts on this. First, this is the underwater version of billionaires starting their own space program, independent of the government.

And with really, Do you know this, are you just speaking hype, like have you read it all about this, or are you just, I just wanna know, do you have any facts here? Are you just giving your opinions on things without any fact no i've read of it i mean i'm not i'm not uh... exceptionally burst on up but i've read enough

to have a big but i don't know what you're saying what you're saying is factual it's not you just talking out of your ass like you've read enough read of it you've read of it doesn't make me feel very confident that you're about to speak with authority on this rescue mission because you've read all of the report. I've read enough to say what I just said. The second part of my statement is a question, not a statement, which is, where's the isn't the government involved in here? Isn't the coast guard?

We know where the wreckage is. We know where the Titanic is. Why isn't the Coast Guard sending missions down there? They are. The Coast Guard is assisting in all of this, as is the company that is doing this. I don't believe Greg Cody knows much of anything about this story. That's a good question. It's a private company.

Am I wrong? Where did it put the blame? It's a private company. Who can I start blaming for? It's also heart impossible to get to. It's 900 miles off of Cape County. His suggestion was someone should be looking for these people. That's right.

Can I get the government on this? Yeah, the Coast Guard has been the one sending out the releases right now. Thank you, great. Someone should look for these people. The government's taking my advice, and they're all in the case. Thank you, welcome. You're concerned. Yeah, right.

If you want to issue a challenge, you should... It's a private sub. You issue it to James Cameron, who's got approximately 24 hours to make this all about him. Sub schmub. I mean, there's an inherent risk. Cameron has moved on to Avatar Mike. I don't know why you think he's still talking about it. No, this is the mission.

This is the culmination of his being. Yeah, he's back underwater with you. Mark my words, James Cameron will make this all about him. He definitely said at one point, I wish I thought of this. It's already serialized. Mark my words. Mark my words. It's only a matter of time before James Cameron

makes this potential tragedy all about him. He knows what he's talking about now. No one says, well, first thing this story is me. Look around, who's your ally? Mr. I've read of it. I know. I have read of it. And by the way, Jacques Cousteau

is also has his antenna up in heaven. He's like, wow, this is a little story. Wasn't Jack Kustow accused of fraud? Not to my knowledge. Like I read of it. Like a lot of the great footage that he had, he actually filmed in Tite Quarters and it wasn't actually in the wild. I may have to owe his assay to huge colleges. I'm gonna say, wait a minute, smurch the name of the great explorer, the great underwater explorer great under one or

four quick google what happened nothing right out of here no uh... this is a i'm in a submarine cocoon casket as well my entire career right here next to this one running out of air

i think that's it that's what it is i you think i'm trying to get i'm lost at. This would have been my coach instead of stugots. Yeah. I got stugots phoning in from wherever he is to do weekend observation. Well, he normally phones it in from here. Whoa. Greg, I asked you before the show. Can I get you to be alert? Yeah. Can I get you to be? Can I get? I need you to play the stugots role today. Great. Are up. You've been lost three times today.

You're, you're saying those times, you're son and I were waving at you the way you would wave an airplane happening. And you couldn't see either one of us. Everyone in the audience, because we're broadcast was could see me and your son doing this. And you were like, if you were staring at my day, did you were, look at your focus on the job at hand. Look at here. Like most human beings, I have eyes looking here. In the front of my head, I'm not a frog.

I don't have eyes on the side of my head that can look peripherally. To look peripherally, I gotta cock my head a little bit. Your son is right in front of you. He was waving like you would wave in an airplane. He's not a frog, Dad. I'm not a frog Billy. Certainly you have thoughts I'm just a man of all our careers losing air by the second as we broadcast it lost its seat Surely on your careers sure all of our careers yours included, but you don't get to be outside this particular sinking submarine

We all go down together. She's I know you you would like to be outside I you're like you're the guy who wants the controller from the outside who wants to be above the surface while the rest of us drown, but I'm gonna need your help on this story. Let's leave the Titanic being the Titanic at the bottom of the sea. Hey, you're a billionaire.

How about just enjoy your money on land? What are we going into space for? What are we going into the ocean for? He's just looking for reasons to die. That guy, to be honest with you. And I'd look something You look I don't I don't this is reckless. I would just say this is this is reckless Gotta find that one. All right. Don't worry. We'll just assume that it played

Right way dog your holistic credibility and get reckless Here is something we like to call rugless speculation You're good Let's look into some life insurance policies You know what I mean see See what's going on there. Maybe some reason someone just wanted to disappear. Maybe things. What was going on around this billionaire before he decided to just disappear in a submarine down to visit the old Titanic?

You know what I mean? He's got the means to disappear forever, Dan. But why? What's the motive? I was asking the right question. I honestly can't believe that on a really horrific, fear-based story, all of you are going straight to the second guest. There's gotta be a family member somewhere.

There's something's up here. All mortifying that you guys are just going straight to the second guest. That's what we said about Balloon Boy. Remember, the only person here that thought that Balloon Boy was real, Dan, as I recall, was you. We're worried about that poor kid. We said there's no way that that's going on. Not a chance in heck, right?

Sounds like a chapter in... This is a new and unimproved down lebatar show with the stugas. Gamble on by draftkins. Down lebatard. Hey everybody. Not here. We'll come to the phones.

Leave them at the same time. See, it doesn't sound better dressed. Hey, everybody. Not here. Okay, come to the phone. Leave him a... See, doesn't that sound better, Josh? Hey everybody. No, it does not. It does not sound better. It sounds. He is absolutely slurring his hey everybody. By the way, not surprising at all that he would answer the phone and think just everybody is there.

It's only one person calling it. It's everybody. Still gots. He's performing, baby. And it's only about a mic on it. It's everybody. Stugats. He's performing, baby. And he's only putting my gun around him and hey, everybody. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's It's like, it's like you're chewing Greg Cody. Hi everybody. VCs, they don't live at our show with their stugats. I love having Greg Cody here on Tuesdays. It makes me see what I imagined 20 years ago.

I thought I would be hosting this show with Greg Cody. And that would have aged very poorly. It doesn't age much better with Stugots, but it is slightly better in that he's not frightened of the lights in here or confused and disoriented by someone talking in his ear. However, he often doesn't show up for work. He takes advantage of our vacation policy and the most recent pictures I've seen of him from again another grateful dead concert as he descends into a summer of poisons and aging. Holy crap is a bad picture.

It is terrible. I'm worried about him. We're all worried about his physical health. He sounds terrible. He's smoking his breakfast and it's not because it's grilled. He his breakfast is an ash tray that can't provide the nutrients he needs. Neither can the mushrooms. Allegedly.

Okay, I mean protein. I mean, time to throw away all your realistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. I mean, he's high all the time.

Wow. I'm not in show. I never show. I have no proof that he's right after. Though, it's a whip. It's right. That's what they do. They do.

Come on, my they do whip it. So that's what Billy look at this. Look at this photograph. It's a whip. You don't let that slide. Remember that. Remember that time we went to coconut grove. Wait a minute. You don't get a slide remember that Remember that time we went to coconut grove

Go sit right now Good Get grateful divo My dog was good remember that one time we went to tavern in the grove before it closed and we stumbled upon like a bunch of whip it canisters. That was that guy you went to college with. There were a couple of guys I went to college with who were in the same place that I'd left them back at the tavern and Coke and a grove back then.

One of them was the kicker for the University of Miami football team. I couldn't believe the sheer number of wipits on the floor of the now defunct tavern. But Greg Cody just asked, he doesn't know what a whip it is. It's sort of, and I'm forgive my ignorance here, it's sort of taking the contents of a whip cream container and sort of whatever the hallucinogens are in it, sucking them so that you alter your brain chemistry. Okay. It's just the air that comes from those cans, you just, wow.

If you've ever wondered, why are there so many balloons here When you go to a dead and company show that's why but what do we to make of what Stugots looks like here in this photograph that was circulated on Twitter from a grateful dead concert the day after both teams were eliminated He came in here. He was eating a sandwich left crumbs all over the table and said vacation mode, Dan O, as it felt, you know, as the crumbs fell into a beard that had been shaved in seven days, under a hat that he's been wearing nonstop for four weeks. Unchanged, uncleaned. He's falling apart and he wants to do his weekend observations from wherever he is. I was told he's in New York at the moment that he went to a show last night and I think he has, I think he said city field today or tomorrow.

He's doing, I believe, if I remember this correctly, he told me he has either nine or ten more shows this summer. So I think that this weekend knocked out one or two of those. And then he says that that's it forever with the dead and that he can't miss it. He's doing three back-to-back in San Francisco. And then he says that that's it forever with the dead

and that he can't miss it. He's doing three back to back in San Francisco. I don't know when that is. I don't know if he's told you the vacation schedule because he hasn't been very crystal clear with that to me, but he just said, I'm taking the summer off. Okay, good for Stu Goss. He's my hero.

I live by carershly through him because I don't do any of that stuff. I've never been to a dead show, but it sounds like a lot of fun. Wippets, by the way, my neighbor, the Petrosky's, had wippets. So when you're talking about wippets all over the place, I'm thinking back to the 1440 days,

Bill Petrosky had three wippets, which are like small gray hounds, they're like miniature gray hounds, beautiful, wirry little dogs faster than a light bulb you know when you turn on a light switch and the light comes on it's faster than that it's the fastest land animal on earth other than the cheetah I think McGill would would acknowledge that another one that abuses the vacation policy. He's not coming in today I'll let turtles go into the ocean. Yes, he's releasing seed turtles. He can't be into that

Billy where are we though? Okay, so he's gonna take a summer off the summer of deterioration. Yes, thank you the Elser hotel we come live on Everyday Monday through Thursday from the Elser. Thank you for answering that question. I always appreciate your help and grateful for what you do when chaos has emerged and you're totally not helpful in any way whatsoever. But Stugots' general condition as the producer of God bless football

and other vehicles that require his not lazy support of mailing it in, you are headed for a summer of chaos, you realize that, right? Like if you don't get control of this, well, you're summer before football season and then angling into football season, you're gonna feel like you're spending the entire rest of the year in the useless sound montage

because you can't even wrangle him. Here's the thing that I'm kind of curious about, is I'm somehow like been put in charge of Stugat's life and I don't understand why that's the case. It seems like no one wants to deal with him. So I've been like whenever he does something wrong, it's my fault and it's like, no, like I'm not in charge of him. I just have to corral him to do things like twice a week, but the rest of the thing is not my problem. Is it is it impeding your assent at the company? 100%. I've been told as much by

management multiple times. Yeah. That your inability to wrangle Stugas is hurting your career? Yes. Just like that. Yeah, yeah. It's not the best. I gotta be honest with you.

Probably not an on-air conversation, but here we are. So I don't know what's going on with him. The long and the short of it is he says he's in New York. I think he's coming back next week. He's going to do weekend observations at some point in time. But Chris Cody, no, this is the thing though. Chris Cody just came to me and said, Hey, Stu got's available.

And I'm like, but what about the fact that whenever he does it from the road, it's about 10 times slower. And we can't do it as well. And it takes 40 minutes to do the weekend observations because he's on drugs and it's too slow. I can tell you this when I spoke to him to record something an hour ago, he seemed coherent and his microphone sounded good. Now, I don't know if he's going to be in the same place that he was at that point in time,

but he was in a hotel room. The microphone was working. It sounded good. There wasn't much of a lag, but I don't know. One of the reasons Mike Ryan has stepped back at least in part because he's dealing with two deteriorating hosts is how did the standard first to got to get lower than I come here man. I come here man was the lowest bar and now he can't be bothered to come here man because he's got 10 dead shows this summer that will kill him. Like we have seen his falling apart,

his voice that he has to protect, the only valuable thing in this market for him is if you can hear him, he cannot write, he cannot dance, he is smoking his insides. Imagine if that was his redeeming quality though, like he put everyone through all of this, but he could dance. That would be great.

If the resurrection of his career is he's gonna carry us to the finish line dancing, I would love that. Dan, why do you put up with him? He's just such a good dancer. Do a stare. Do a stare. Do a stare. Do a stare.

Then after all these years, Dan, why have you put up with that for 20 years? You should see him dance. Just got a gift. Greg, I have a question up with that for 20 years? You should see him dance. Just got a gift. Greg, I have a question for you. Yeah, Billy. What band or musical act would you follow around the country the way Stugots does if you didn't have the responsibilities

of having to cover all these teams day in and day out? Wow, that's a good question. Probably Glenn Miller. The Glenn Miller band back in that day. Holy shit. Yeah, because, you know, I'm like Holy shit. No, not the Glenn Miller band back in that day. Holy shit. Yeah, because, you know, I'm like. No, not the Steve Miller band. Go go to Glenn Miller band.

Yes, go ahead and Google that and see when it's last member died. No, here's why. That was my dad's favorite big band guy was Glenn Miller. I'm too young for the big band era, believe it or not, but I would like to have experienced it. So that's why I say that instead of, you know, the rolling stone. Please give me all the big band era, believe it or not, but I would like to have experienced it. So that's why I say that instead of, you know, the rolling stone. Please give me all the, I mean, you somehow going older than the rolling stones. I guess isn't an upset, but still once Jeremy, give me some facts on the Glenn Miller

band when it is their heyday was. The first fact for you, they were active from April 1938 to September 1942. Yeah, Chattanooga Chuchu, pardon me boy. Are you the Chattanooga Chuchu? What? Won't you go to me home? I feel bad for dad's been doing it in my whole life. That's a great Cody song to me.

Glenn Miller died in 1944. Damn, right, he did. At 40. Right in the middle of the war went young, but he was my dad's favorite. But they bought me boy. For this. Everybody is such a new get you, too. Won't you carry me? Oh, is that the only one you know? Yeah, I haven't seen them. That's why I want to go see them. What you can. I'm sure they had many hits.

There's probably an incarnation. There's probably still a Glenn Miller band. Moonlight cocktail is one of their hits. Moonlight serenade or Moonlight cocktail. How's that go? I'm a few bars. There's actually both. I've heard of Moonlight serenade. We'll sing that one.

I don't know it. I've heard of it. Chalkyler. Blue-Brown-Jud. Oh yeah. That's right. I think my dad used to sing that. American patrol.

My aunt would sing it in the French. I never knew that song. He died serving our country. In the war, right? Thank you for your service, yeah. Neman Elvis, who were in the war 20 years apart. Actually Elvis was never in the war, was it? I think he never went overseas.

In the movies. In the movies, you were right. That was quite the ride we just went on. He was a toy soldier. Although in real life, he was in the military as well derailed a couple of years of his prime early prime Williams also Ted Williams that's right imagine if modern day athletes had to do that like Mike trout all of a sudden Is missing three years of his career. I mean he has been missing this season of in jeez to be a fighter pilot I know in that crazy to imagine that noees. To be a fighter pilot. I know.

Isn't that crazy to imagine that? No athlete looks more like a fighter pilot than Mike Traut. There is a modern day. There is a modern day Ted Williams. He just happened to play down here. Yeah. Greg, did you know Glenn Miller was awarded the bronze star medal posthumously?

You know what? It doesn't surprise me. Yeah. It doesn't surprise me. He earned it. What did they award that for? I have no idea Stet Williams head still under disney Frozen by a genix last you checked in Arizona, right?

Glen Miller was born in 1904 doesn't say that date disappeared in December of 1915. Wow, that's one of those. Maybe who's in a five-man submarine? You never know. But I think we do know, because who's not even missing, exactly, serving the country. Yeah, it's true. Yeah.

I'm not making fun of the people in the submarine. I pray that they- Or the military. Let's just get ahead of that as well. Right. You said a prayer for that. But they don't make them like Miller anymore Imagine that a big band leader who goes off to war. Yeah disappears under Weird circumstances. You could write a book about that. You should I should yeah the Glenn Miller story

I got to come up with a better name than that What's the name of his song? Maybe you tie in his song name. I think Shadow Nuga Chuchu. Mm. Shokilers is biggest hit. Look up. Well, that was a BCC new and improved and levatar show with the stugas gamble on by draftkins. Don Lebertard. If you lob a 30 mile an hour fastball to a major leaguer, of course they're going to hit a home run. The worst major leaguer in baseball is going to hit 10 or 12 home runs under that format.

Being pitched that way. Today should be throwing curve balls. No, what's your solution here? It's a fake event. It's like not even real. Still gots. Dad, you had a shoot or Those are my deck shoes of long standing Real that the real shoes

With you Greg what's wrong with that? He got me on that one. This is the down libertar show with this to got I'm not totally sure but I think what is presently happening with Stugatts as we try and fail to onboard him from whatever drug soaked landscape he joins us from. I'm pretty sure it's what made Witty quit. And now Chris Cody is in that chair, Mike Ryan is step back. We can't get the audio we need right from from Stugat, so that will have to wait

a segment and we will get to him in a segment from now. Witting him probably executed the strangest quitting I've seen of anyone because I walked out today and I was going to do something here in the lobby. And who do I see on the Draft King's channel with the Coolagins today? Witty. Seems like Witty just quit coming here. Cause he's still buzzing about catching checks from someone doing something.

But also doing the things that he wants to, which include not having to deal with Stugots' schedule and having his career harm the way that yours is. Yeah, how did he escape that? Well, he just quit and took the parts of the job that he wants to start doing soccer. We will get to Stugots in a moment, but I want to go back for a second. This Messi's coming to town maybe. It is a good gig.

Attach yourself near the Messi phenomenon. It's probably going to skyrocket and take care of a whole lot of people in this economy. The fact that that guy somehow at this age is still at maximum leverage while it all fell apart for Ronaldo in like 18 months. They were equals and then Ronaldo threw it all away and Messi is still at maximum leverage. Anyone attaching themselves to him is going to make a lot of money. Do you hear this Sergio Busquets is coming to town too? I mean a big soccer guy. Big time. He'll be coming. Easy. Mm-hmm. From Spain. Wow.

It's funny. How many people got the reporting wrong on all of this? Is this allowing you to take another victory lap? Well, like for, I guess one of the criticisms, if any, that I received was that you never actually said messy was coming here. You just said that he wasn't resigning with PhD. I flatly told everybody that Bousquets was coming.

Told you it's like in a winner. So yeah, he's coming. Well, you told, I flatly told everybody that Puskets was coming, told you it's like in a winner. So yeah, he's coming and he told the subs. I told the subs, I told everybody on Twitter too and I told people on the show that Puskets, that deal was fully negotiated and done months ago. So yeah, he's coming here and someone else is coming here too because Jorge Moss finally spoke to the media, confirmed a lot of these things.

Remember, Messi has not yet signed. So that's why when you see graphics, the E is inexplicably missing because they can't come out and tell you Messi is here because he hasn't fully agreed. But Bousquet's messy and there is a third jersey up there. Go on. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that.

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You can super follow up, Michael Ryan Ruiz, and give half my money to Elon Musk. One of the things that I wanted to get to as we try to onboard Stuga Tear, because I don't want to lose the humanity of what I'm about to say here because we just talked an hour ago about. Mike Ryan is demanding that Mickey Erison not run his business like a responsible business that has to worry about money but that he spend the maximum amount of money in order to run his business, the dollars of it poorly, but the part that feeds the fans, the way that fans and columnists want it fit.

When people say sports is just a business, when the players, when you hear them say that we all kind of know it, it's a cliche, but I simply want to point to you in the glory and the frenzy of the transaction. We're going to head into the draft and you just saw the league taken away from lebron this is how it's gonna happen they've been dominating this news cycle these old guys for a long time lebron just had a taken from him and is arguing on instagram with michael

mullon who's taunting him with with making fun of him looking like a ridiculous drunken person who looks like an aged white rapper, looks like Fred Durs from Limp Biscuit. That he's taunting LeBron because they took the league from him and now it's drunken, flat brim, sunglasses, bleep off LeBron. I got the big giant young guy from that space where the lead gets taken by the young people. Chris Paul endured what I would say would be a hurtful transaction

to anybody who cares about an employer caring about them. It was a year ago that Chris Paul got that team to the finals and helped that team get where they were. Was a hero in Phoenix revived his career after Oklahoma City. Chris Paul goes down as a legend for these times, but because he never won, he will be disgraced and furthermore, no one cares that without any respect whatsoever. At the end of his career, the sons are like, yeah, we don't care that your family is here. We don't care about what you want. Get the hell out of here.

You're an expiring contract. We're going to waive you. Thanks for the memories. Get out of here. Time for the young people. And what I would ask, and the young people is Bradley Beale. Like it's not really young people. It's just eight years younger than you.

And from within that conversation, I want to ask you the group, what is Chris Paul's place in history? Because I understand it's a business, but it feels to me like the sons in the name of business just wronged what is a legend for our times. Because Chris Paul's one of the 10 best players to have played during this period. But because he wasn't LeBron, because he wasn't Wade, hell, he's better than Carmelo. He doesn't get the same send-off, and in fact, at the end gets hurt by his employer. Is he allowed to be hurt by his employer? Because Greg, this person, for those of you who do not know, just wrote a book with Michael

Wilman because he is boys with Iger was a power broker during player empowerment, the head of the union got to the top of the sports business where he collaborates with silver and Iger over what's the next deal look like for players and is an afterthought within the context of well, you weren't as good as LeBron, you weren't nearly as good as LeBron, you weren't as good as Durant, you weren't nearly as good as LeBron. You weren't as good as Durant. You weren't nearly as good as Durant. But you're in the top 10 and at the end, get the hell out of here. We don't need you anymore. See if you can figure it out on your own.

You're old time for the young people. It's a cruel ecosystem, man. It's cold. It's ridiculous the way he found out that they didn't have the courtesy to speak to him directly. But to me, you compare him with other point guards, not with big guys. In his place, he's third all time in steals, third all time in assists. The fact that he didn't win a championship for me, it matters very little. He's one of the greatest ever without equivocation.

One of the greatest ever for his size for sure. Like it's Isaiah, he meant point guards, right? Yeah, I'm just talking about players. I'm talking about players. This is a guy who for 15 years during the LeBron era was as good as any of them, like a few notches below, but by degrees for his size,

incomparable almost. You got Isaiah Thomas winning championships on a broken foot. And then you go, Chris Paul is second best, but we'll be a loser in the eyes of many people because he suffers the great shame of what you weren't nearly as good as LeBron. Spend most of his pro career with no cartilage in that knee. Yeah, he's one of the all-time greats. Also, this is the third time he's been jettisoned because of his age. And he had a career resurgence at one of those destinations in Oklahoma City that made him a desirable contract. I understand that he's a little sour on it. We get to ask him about this. He's scheduled to join us this week and the

timing on that is pretty good. But yeah, he was caught off guard by this, but the reports were that he knew his time in Phoenix was ending. If anything, I'd feel a little flattered that it just wasn't a salary cap dump the way that I've been previously in my career. I'm here. My contract's a piece and attractive piece to help lore and make the money workout to get Phoenix to that next level. At least psychologically that has to help, right? Because you look at some other point guards who have been traded in the last few years who are also great players of their time.

Russell Westbrook is an example and Russell Westbrook played for the thunder for so many years, brought them so close, remained loyal in a way where Chris Paul's been on a number of different teams throughout his career and he ended up getting shipped to Houston and then flipped, of course, for Chris Paul. It's a cold business.

I don't think people care, though, Cody, I think they say, well, you make a lot of money. Chris Paul and sorry, you got to move your family or you got to figure it out. You got all summer to do it. Uh, wherever you built a home, that's nice. But Phoenix was your home and you got us so close, so close. Yannis away. You were, you were right there and then it blows up and your window closes and now you're an afterthought again.

They're just enhancing his real estate portfolio. Because you know he's gonna keep it in Phoenix, get one and watch, and now the man's just spread out more. I'm good on him. I do find it fascinating. The triangle is now complete. The permute a triangle for aging point guards of their generation.

They all have stops in Washington, Houston and the Clippers. It's just like John Wall, Westbrook and Chris Paul just constantly shifting the triangle. Kendrick Perkins, who has become a voice that is being heard on ESPN says that Westbrook would be better for the heat than Bradley Beale. I disagree. That is the silence that I expected. I was gonna say, that's about right. Is it a disagree? But neither would be Lillard. Let's be clear about that.

Lillard, Lillard, and I stop complaining about everything. I understand Dan's point, like, it's funny how you frame that. I don't want him to run a responsible business for a team that he got from his dad. You know, how much money did he pay for the Miami Heat? Oh, nothing. Right, I'm sure he worked hard for that he got from his dad, you know, how much money did he pay for the Miami heat? Oh, nothing. Right. I'm sure he worked hard. How much money is he going to get eventually when the payday comes? And he may leave it for his son the way that he got that, but

I'm not asking for much. I'm really not the luxury tax. I think asking for much is asking him to spend more than any other owner. That's what you're asking for. I mean, if not, would it be the owner that had didn't pay for the team? Like if he could ask that reasonably, he should have a bad concept when it comes to money.

Like as somebody who was who grew up spoiled, I can speak to this. He should be willing to just add just like, uh, texture, whatever he had, there was a rough pandemic uncarnable cruise lines. We all know the, the interest that the Saudis bought in He said, just like, yeah, I'm taxed, or whatever. He had, there was a rough pandemic on Carnival Cruise Lines. We all know the, the interest that the Saudis bought

in Carnival Cruise Lines, but it's, if you look at the, the teams that have capitalized on their championship window, recently, a lot have done so by going into that luxury tax. And Mickey Ererson decided to avoid that luxury tax by jettison might miller a shooter around a prime lebron james it is a valid criticism just to be clear this is the fourth time you've made this valid criticism i was talking about chris paul how did you bring it back to the heat i was talking about what you you you

were the one that mentioned here but this is what you do though and it's not just you i believe it sports fans in general you're always off to the next transaction no time to celebrate the career of chris paul get out of here though, and it's not just you, I believe it sports fans in general. You're always off to the next transaction. No time to celebrate the career of Chris Paul. Get out of here. Guy at the end. What are we supposed to do, though, with Chris Paul? It was a bad, it was a bad contract.

We all knew that. Congratulations, Phoenix. You got off of one bad contract. That's what the great teams in this league do. When you're the general manager of the team, you and no one else wanted Chris Paul the last four years when that contract was a bad contract do you realize i wanted chris paul down here and that was another actually me at chris paul no i do you realize do you realize how the mimee he'd would have been better

if they had the last four years of chris paul instead of kyle loury and assortment of others they had that opportunity this is an inexact thing that Mike wants to be perfect. Yeah, and it bears saying that since. This is Inu Anun and Proof Dan Lebatarsho with Estugas. Gamble on by GraphKins.